e58e34 No.14830904
At first i noticed all my friends dropping the game as their go to 'party game' they would mindlessly waste time on. Though i assumed 'well thats probably just the 'churn' phase of a games lifespan and its losing early players and gaining new ones'. But you know what i notice lately?
The fanarts drying up.
Might sound odd but i couldn't check a gaming website or twitter or something without usually some lewd fanart of one of the Overwatch girls every other hour of the day. Nowadays i see one maybe every week or two.
What changed is obvious: Blizzard thirsting for esports buxx, again. Only now SC2 is well and truly dead as dicks they want Overwatch -the mario party of shooters- to replace it.
To say thats going badly would be putting it mildly.
However its also compounded by the players who expected some rich world finally going "hang on, everything you have shown is backstory, winston making a phone call in the opening is the furthest the story has ever gotten!" and the fact that its people shooting each other to death over payloads becomes more apparent over time and the lorefags drift away as well.
Have you noticed this games starting to get forgotten quite quickly when it looked like a huge monster popularity wise 2 years ago?
It seems like the tween mercy cancer skin was a desperate attempt to drum up some talk about the game as their last two events have been duds and their esports views are plummeting.
Do you play it? do your friends or folks you know online? Do you even hear about it anymore?
Or shit do you just think the casuals who make up most of its userbase jumped to fortnite?
3796c2 No.14830906
>>14830904
>wow did you guys know that videogames don't have an infinite lifespan??
4ad146 No.14830911
The only thing Overwatch is good for is meeting girls.
Blizz rigs ranked to make cash and everyone's starting to become aware of that so I'm not surprised it's dying. They deserve it- never seen such a scummy behavior in my life.
e58e34 No.14830917
>>14830911
From what i see from a little digging it looks like the esports is poorly managed and the casuals that go in 'for the lore' are realising all the money that could make story content are going on a desperate and failing bid to make it the next early 2000's MLG era Halo and its crashing and burning.
In only 2 years going from gamings biggest new darling to completely forgotten is an amazing shitshow.
4dddd7 No.14830921
It's not surprising.
>too restrictive for long-term casual play (no player-run servers so you can only play with other fucking casuals)
>no matter how much they try to force esports, the game is too easy to actually be a real competitive game
>matchmaking forces everyone together which creates the "toxic" environment they always whine about
>too much policing of the community by Blizzard
>almost no new content outside of yearly events literally every other month that just exist to milk money out of retards with time-limited pixels
One of my friends bought me the game to guilt me into playing with him because I'm decent at FPS games. Before long it dropped from playing a few hours a day to just playing once or twice a week, and now he only asks me to play it during the big events.
398d2b No.14830922
>>14830904
>Have you noticed this games starting to get forgotten quite quickly when it looked like a huge monster popularity wise 2 years ago?
LoL, DoTa, tanks, CS are fogotten? Pls. No. PUBG and Fortnight? Too early to tell.
467abf No.14830932
Overmeme has always been a bad TF2 clone.
e58e34 No.14830934
>>14830921
honestly maybe one person i know didn't buy it, now only one person i know still plays it. It was fun for a while and i'd be lying if i said i didnt appreciate all the lewd fanart, but even that has dried up and when people dont want to make porn of your fatass chinese girl or limey lesbian anymore you fucked up.
24f150 No.14830936
Yes. and it would help if you stopped talking about it.
Anything made by Blizzard is shit.
All marxist companies like Blizzard deserve bankruptcy and to have their employees and owners killed.
4dddd7 No.14830947
>>14830934
I don't really like the game much. The only fun to be had is in pissing other people off enough that they break one of the draconian rules, without you actually breaking any yourself. Basically it's only fun when I'm actively making it not fun for someone else.
e58e34 No.14830950
>>14830947
You might enjoy Dead by Daylight quite a bit.
398d2b No.14830958
>>14830921
>>no matter how much they try to force esports, the game is too easy to actually be a real competitive game
Retarded /v/ difficulty meme. There is no difficulty in the multiplayer games in teh sense /v/ believes.
OW fails as e-sport because it is terrible spectators sport by design , its team gameplay is impossible to observe.
4dddd7 No.14830966
>>14830950
Probably not. I'd still rather play an older shooter than ruin someone's day in a new one.
>>14830958
>There is no difficulty in the multiplayer games in teh sense /v/ believes
There is complexity, which Overwatch lacks almost completely.
01b84c No.14830970
4ad146 No.14830971
>>14830917
>casuals that go in 'for the lore'
If it wasn't for them, OW would have died a LOT sooner. At least now they're all getting tired of it since they're not getting their fix of fujoshit or whatever "ships" are trending.
e58e34 No.14830973
>>14830958
Wrong and queer. esports shooters do have specific targets to meet, often in terms of autistic numbers and strict control. Look back 15 years at competitive Halo. All those maps of rolling hills and caves and shit? out. Only flat floors, sheer walls and absolutely no environmental hazards for "pure" play and giga autist debates over things like 'shoot to melee speed being 4 frames faster on shotgun than pistol' causing huge shitstorms.
I'll always remember one tournament where a guy hit a traffic cone with a snipe bullet and it flew through the air and killed the last enemy team member via fizzix and people went crazy.
Overwatch on the other hand is at best complete chaos when a ultimate can swing a match constantly regardless of skill level and that makes for a very poor viewing experience when it becomes 8 player pong with mario party reward for play rules.
542f60 No.14830974
I really liked this game when it first came out, but every new hero is some variation of waifu bait or bigger. Bridgette was pretty cool but she sucks ass and I don't think they're going to fox her any time soon. As for them not releasing content I feel they have been steadily releasing enough stuff to keep the game interesting but not nearly enough stuff I am interested in because I am not a faggot. It was a pretty fun game to goof around with for a little while though. I don't regret spending 10 dollars on it.
7dcc8a No.14830981
>>14830966
Overwatch has way more complexity than pretty much any other shooter. Compared to COD or CS or even Quake there's an order of magnitude more stuff to do and keep track of at any time. That doesn't make it a better or harder game, it's simply more (in this case, more shit).
226469 No.14830987
>>14830904
never played, mostly due to self respect
4dddd7 No.14830988
>>14830981
>Overwatch has way more complexity than pretty much any other shooter
7dcc8a No.14831009
>>14830988
What part of that obvious statement do you have trouble with? 6 players on either team each with multiple abilities you personally need to keep track of at all times. Does that McCree have his flashbang? Does your Zarya have her ult? Does yours? Every detail you can keep track of helps you to take better risks, and the team that takes better risks usually wins.
When you compare to COD or CS where all you have is the basic weapons which are all fundementally similar, or even Quake where you have the weapons AND map pickups, but still no abilities or teammates, there's simply that many more layers of complexity to deal with.
398d2b No.14831013
>>14830973
>adding another /v/skill meme
Loser detected.
>that makes for a very poor viewing experience
Indeed because there is no place where you put camera to observe all gameplay simultaneously and there is no downtime so camera can't jump from point of action to point like in camperstrike.
Look at most famous and watched real world sports. Soccer and football? What do they have? Right, ball. Most action is confined to the ball area so camera has no problems to translate it. OW? Pure disaster. Observing OW only works if you want to follow single player but here is the Blizzards mistake to fall for the teamplay meme and make league of teams not persons.
35947b No.14831044
>>14831013
This is why competitive R6:S is relatatively fun to watch. There's always one or two objectives on the map where the action tends to take place.
ed4f02 No.14831049
They all moved to fortnite or whatever else is the fad game of the month
A reminder that you should never play cancer games with friends, they will drag you down, waste your money and make you regret evereything, and on top of this you support the cancer in the industry
have the balls to say 'no' and you won't regret it, find some actual, good games to play with them
7dcc8a No.14831055
>>14831044
That same thing could be said of Overwatch, which is probably why Blizzard thought it would work. I doubt R6:S is actually that much of a spectator hit either, probably less so than Overwatch. You probably just like the game better.
ed4f02 No.14831057
>>14830988
someone post the caps
9bea47 No.14831059
The game just hit 40mil players, I'm pretty sure this is just wishful thinking. That fucking pink mercy skin pulled in over 10 million dollars.
d7c573 No.14831071
Have you also noticed that no one is buying games anymore?
Have you also noticed that no one is playing games anymore?
Also I only have ever heard of CS:Go, DotA, LoL, PUBG, Fortnite but always in the context of watching someone else play.
I have never encountered someone who played Games that came out after CS 1.6 destroyed the dynamic of Counter Strike or Warcraft 3 and Diablo 2 fucking up genres that had potential.
Or to summarise:
Shit Thread, no one cares about Overwatch.
7dcc8a No.14831073
>>14831059
The game hit 40 million SALES, that's VERY different than "players". Not only does practically everyone who plays the game own an alt account these days, but most of those players aren't playing it any more.
a4f948 No.14831076
>>14830904
>What changed is obvious: Blizzard thirsting for esports buxx, again. Only now SC2 is well and truly dead as dicks they want Overwatch -the mario party of shooters- to replace it.
>To say thats going badly would be putting it mildly.
It's pretty clear by now that the Overwatch League is a big scam. It's boring to watch, there's the "no fun allowed" policy, Blizzard/Overwatch has a team dedicated to spy on their pro-players in and out of the game (Twitter, Faceberg, Youtube comments, blogs etc.), the esport commentators aren't allowed to use certain words or memes, in the early matches they couldn't say that a player participated in CSGO or League because they weren't Blizzard games.
The game has an AI/bot that filters and ban people based on what they say in the chat, also if a Tumblrina starts whining because you picked the character she wanted and told her to choose another one then she can report you and get you banned.
9bea47 No.14831078
>>14831073
[citation needed]
d7c573 No.14831082
>>14831073
They also ban 10k players every few months, those rebuys is what keeps them going.
b473be No.14831088
>>14830911
i'd rather have a gf who doesn't play overwatch than a gf who plays overwatch
d7c573 No.14831094
>>14831088
Sieg Heil to that, Herr Hitler.
4ad146 No.14831100
>>14831059
Thing is those numbers are dishonest. They imply those are "active" players but it's not. That number is inflated for multiple reasons.
>PS4 (big reason)- with a physical copy of the game someone can make infinite psn accounts to smurf on.
>smurf accounts- a lot of players have about 2 accounts
>free weekends- accounts that were made to test the game but never bought it
>abandoned accounts probably included too (abandoned due to toxicity ban, abandoned after getting a ranked ban due to frequent disconnection, hacking ban etc)
8ef1c9 No.14831104
>>14830904
>Blizz makes 10 million bucks with their paid skin
>It's totally dying!!
I know declaring shit games to be dead is how many anons define having a good day, but at the end of the day it's nothing but wishful thinking.
9bea47 No.14831112
>>14831100
It's probably true, but you have no sources. Nothing, which just makes this Tortanic levels of wishful thinking and wanking. 10 fucking million dollars for a simple skin, the game isn't close to dead, no matter how much you want it to be.
9efbf3 No.14831120
>channers actually think overwatch is dying
hahahaha keep dreaming
af838b No.14831155
>>14831059
That doesn't mean jack shit if it doesn't mean active players. You could easily say that 30 million of those players are smurf accounts or haven't touched the game in over a month.
>>14831076
You forgot to mention that they fine pro players for breaking rules they set. One goy already got in trouble for breaking the rule about not wearing shoes.
>>14831112
There's also nothing to prove that all or even most of those 40 million players are still actually playing. It makes more sense to say 40 million purchases because it follows the normalfag trend of hopping from one flavor of the month game to the next. It would also make more sense for Blizzard to say "40 million active players" if that were the case.
>>14831120
Less than 700,000 purchases would be needed to raise 10 million dollars.
9bea47 No.14831175
>>14831155
>Less than 700,000 purchases would be needed to raise 10 million dollars.
>implying this is a bad conversion rate for a single skin for a single character
Why don't you go to a Destiny 2 thread if you're so desperate for another Tortanic?
d7c573 No.14831176
>>14831112
Ah, but the @PlayOverwatch "Press" Release only stated that the sales have helped raising the 10 Million they got to support the Breast Cancer thingy.
They also sold T-Shirts and had Stream Promotions that can take your Amazon Prime Subscribtion or other Twitch Money for that Charity and the wording suggests that those 10 Million are from all those things combined, the skin was just the showcase / presspull of the message.
And journos went wild.
Even if those 10 Million were only from the Sales of the Skin.
That would meen that 667k Accounts have bought the skin.
7dcc8a No.14831179
>>14831175
It's a bad conversion rate if there are supposed to be 40 million players, especially when it's an extremely well received skin for the most popular character for a charity event.
9bea47 No.14831186
>>14831176
>Ah, but the @PlayOverwatch "Press" Release only stated that the sales have helped raising the 10 Million they got to support the Breast Cancer thingy.
No it didn't, it announced that the skin earned that money, nigger.
>>14831179
>most popular character
>implying
8ef88b No.14831189
>>14830988
He's not wrong.
He's also not saying it's good.
a4f948 No.14831200
>>14831155
>You forgot to mention that they fine pro players for breaking rules they set.
True.
d7c573 No.14831219
>>14831186
>>Thanks to the generosity of everyone who's purchased the Pink Mercy skin so far, we're closing in on raising $10M USD to support @BCRFcure.
Learn your Marketing speak.
They are closing in on $10M USD to support @BCRFcure.
Including the sales of the skin.
So that are either 666.666 Sold Skins, or all they managed to raise with all their Promo Shit.
9bea47 No.14831220
>>14831200
>>You forgot to mention that they fine pro players for breaking rules they set.
I'm pretty sure every single professional sport out there does this. Blizzard is extremely draconian in finding potential offenses, but fining people is in line with the rest of the world of sports.
9bea47 No.14831226
>>14831219
>>Thanks to the generosity of everyone who's purchased the Pink Mercy
>>Thanks to the generosity of everyone who's purchased the Pink Mercy
>>Thanks to the generosity of everyone who's purchased the Pink Mercy
>>we're closing in on raising $10M USD to support @BCRFcure
You might be retarded.
d7c573 No.14831230
>>14831226
You seem to have underdeveloped language skills.
542f60 No.14831232
>>14831176
600k active players is nothing to sneeze at. Even Diablo II in its prime wasn't pulling those numbers.
9bea47 No.14831237
>>14831230
Uh yeah, sure. Keep having wet dreams about OW dying anon, whatever floats your boat.
7dcc8a No.14831244
>>14831186
Even after being nerfed to hell she STILL has the number 1 pickrate. She's also the most-mained hero and generally popular for a large number of reasons
758a58 No.14831249
>>14830904
>Have you noticed Overwatch is running out of steam?
No because i don't play shit games
a4f948 No.14831254
>>14831219
I'm sure they managed to sell a bunch of skins but Blizzard could've added a few millions to have that nice marketable number of 10 million.
7a1946 No.14831271
>>14831249
The only right answer.
542f60 No.14831272
What really pisses me off is the shit they release post launch. There is a talking gorilla character, a robot monk, a cyborg cowboy, a bow wielding samurai, a cyborg ninja, a cute angel girl, a waifu in a gundam, a dwarf mechanic, and a fucking giant man in paladin armor swinging around a bad ass rocket hammer, and all of the new designs are derivative shit. Either waifu or niggers.
Let's break this down.
Ana: an old sniper grandma.
Sombra: hacker goblina
Orisa: we wuz robotz n sheeit.
Doomfist: Nigger winter Soldier
Moira: tranny.
Bridgette: Reinhardt but a cute girl.
It's obvious that the fun and creative designs of the original cast's creators checked out or were fired shortly before this launched. The new faces are definitely lacking that fun energy the original cast has. You don't see nearly as much fan art of them as you do the originals, and I mean new fan art. Because they are shit and even the Tumblr fags know this.
f49678 No.14831276
>>14831249
>i don't play shit games
>posts tumblr shit
c'mon son
af838b No.14831317
>>14831220
I don't recall any football player being fined for using a "racist" Twitch emote.
http://archive.is/3TreJ
Turns out he just likes spamming a black guy emote and happened to use it while a nigger announcer was on stage
59c83d No.14831321
>>14831232
>Diablo II release date: year 2000
>USA population 282.2M
<USA population year 2017, 325.7M
C'mon now, you can't compare two userbases that are +15 year apart from each other like that.
As everybody knows, OW will be killed soon by blizzard themselves, like they have done with all their franchises.
Even now there are a lot of people that are leaving the game due to the direction that it's taking: Less FPS, more noob friendly, low skill characters galore.
I also heard that their fag CEO wants to do platform crossplay, even though they are banning people on console for using KB+M.
Also their community is always pissed due to, you guessed it, retarded balance.
A friend told me that their "Competitive League" is playing on an old patch, due to how broken the balance is in the new one.
Probably why they did this PR stunt too, so they can't divert attention from the fact that the community is pissed.
So everything will come, but not now.
9bea47 No.14831333
>>14831317
I've watched MotoGP riders get fined waving their hands around because someone crashed them out. It's not uncommon, but as I said, Blizzard is extremely draconian in this regard. Pretty sure it's one of the reasons OWL is failing, because people just think it's more fun to watch regular streamers that act like monkeys.
7dcc8a No.14831346
>>14831317
Most football players are niggers and as we all know only white people can be considered racist
59c83d No.14831350
>>14831333
nice trips
Just like how they have banned the word "trap".
But the best thing is that there's a character with an ability called "steel trap".
So now people can't say the name of an in-game ability due to retarded censorship.
It is truly wonderful, like seeing a train-wreck in slow motion.
bdf9bc No.14831364
I believe in the Life Cycle of games
difference with online ones is its longer, yet in the end shorter
you can play an online game for 3-4 years and then it gets stale, people quit in droves and rarely come back
while a good singleplayer classic lasts forever and people come back to it for real (to play through it all)
bdf9bc No.14831370
it cant compete in lasting value, its kind of wonder how people even put up with horrible grindy mechanics that exist these days
online games by design are predatory, it doesnt reward you in anyway with anywhere close to good as experience as good story and campaign does, so its never really meant to last few beyond years in reality
9efbf3 No.14831372
>>14830921
>the game is too easy to actually be a real competitive game
why arn't u at the top of the ranks then
758a58 No.14831374
>>14831276
>vivian
>tumblr
WRONG TAIWANEESE BEER BOOTLEGING BOARD CUCKBOI
1ebab8 No.14831376
>>14831049
This quite true. A few friends of mine begged me to play pubg until I broke down and bought a copy. The dirty feeling I got from knowing I spent $30 on that irredeemable trash is still with me. Now I just ignore them and hide my online status to avoid them completely.
c847f0 No.14831378
>>14830904
>Have you noticed this free to play game with a big price tag that has no depth of mechanics and is shit to watch doesn't seem to have a lifespan?
>And this happened around the same time that the battle royal genre suddenly exploded into popularity
>Weird!
398d2b No.14831380
>>14831370
Online games have x10-100 longevity over story and campaign sp games. They can't have that sort of longevity without rewarding player for the play.
398d2b No.14831382
>>14831372
His is not bad enough. Too good for this world.
f49678 No.14831383
>>14831374
nigger were you even a part of those threads when that shit went down? it was nothing but tumblr shit, but of course you didn't know that because you probably only came here this year
2fa902 No.14831384
I don't think I've seen any Blender porn of pink Mercy yet
bdf9bc No.14831385
>>14831380
if you think longevity is wasting time doing same thing for x10-100 times you are truly lost
beccb2 No.14831421
>>14831057
These? I would ask if they're still true when it comes to balance comments.
>>14831384
Good. Mercy is ugly even if she's the main white in the game, and 3D porn is fucking trash.
398d2b No.14831426
>>14831385
All gaming is time wasting mental masturbation, anon. Point is if game A lasts x100 longer than game B then game A provides endorphin high (aka purpose of the gaming) x100 times longer than game B.
b09dc3 No.14831431
>>14830904
>Have you noticed Overwatch is running out of steam?
No silly, Overwatch uses Battlenet not Steam.
8e4323 No.14831437
>>14831384
>Blender
Her model is not available unless you're an SFMfag and even then that outfit looks like trash.
e58e34 No.14831444
>>14831431
God damn i am fucking roasted.
7dcc8a No.14831445
>>14831437
That fanart isn't even close to what the game model looks like. Whether you think the real version is shit or not that is way shittier.
e58e34 No.14831454
>>14831445
eh i'd still rather fuck mei, blonde pigtails scream genital warts.
7dcc8a No.14831457
>>14831454
Get your degenerate twintail-hating fat-fucking filth out of here.
b91428 No.14831465
>>14830904
>Running out of steam
>Consistent top 10 on twitch viewers
sure thing op
e58e34 No.14831468
>>14831457
My yellow fever cannot be contained.
beccb2 No.14831470
>>14831445
At least the fanart has some lewd points to it. Reminds me of the Neps actually.
758a58 No.14831472
>>14831383
>i was in those threads
prove it
1bd41f No.14831476
>>14831249
So, ummm, what games do you play?
758a58 No.14831478
>>14831476
the,ummm,not the shitty kind ones
1bd41f No.14831481
>>14831478
I bet you have shit taste just like everyone else, faggot
758a58 No.14831491
>>14831481
and i bet generalizing and projecting may pass well as b8 where you are from,but not so much here
6af6eb No.14831500
1 newer shooter fornite is out
2 blizzard is trying to clean out their only playerbase aka toxic players
3 very slow at getting content out
this is from someone who played support to gm/top500 for the first 5 seasons
i regret it its mindless game without the fun of cod and tf2
1bd41f No.14831501
>>14831491
Or you could just say what games you play. Yet you scared to do so.
1bd41f No.14831502
>>14831500
>support to gm/top500
Filthy mercymain. Do you suck dicks?
b09dc3 No.14831504
>>14830932
>>14830921
>>14831055 -
The reason why Overwatch's game play sucks is because the game is a fucking MOBA disguised as a classed based shooter.
Overwatch is what happens when you take a bunch of MOBA tier "heroes",
make them First Person,
remove lanes and other MOBA shit,
Make them have: Stuck locking, huge health distortion, Aimbot tier "special moves", more gay shit etc…
Then throw all the fucking cartoon characters at each other at once in a linear map.
More Chaos than the fuckin Warp.
Team Fortress 2 is a class based shooter.
Battlefield games are classed based shooters.
R6 siege, while not really class based, is still better because there is no Health distortion between different characters.
Overwatch is a MOBA fps with shit level design, caked in Blizzard's Glitter dust and millions of dollars in marketing.
If you want to play a MOBA fps with decent level design then play SMITE, don't give Blizzard's shiny turd any attention.
398d2b No.14831510
>>14831504
MOBAs have MOBS. GTFO.
c14f52 No.14831511
It never was on steam to begin with.
b09dc3 No.14831513
>>14831511
You stole my post Carlos.
>>14831431
You dirty Spic.
b09dc3 No.14831516
>>14831510
I said:
>remove lanes and other MOBA shit,
Mobs are a part of "other moba shit"
I call Overwatch a MOBA because no other popular fps has such an array of characters with unbalanced stats and gatcha abilities.
01b84c No.14831519
4c6434 No.14831529
>>14831516
Having an array of characters and no balance isn't what makes ASSFAGGOTS ASSFAGGOTS. Being literal clones of the same god damn fucking mirrored map ever since the WC3 mod is. They are ALL on that same god damn map with the same god damn mobs and the same god damn towers.
Overwatch is a TF2 clone.
b09dc3 No.14831535
>>14831519
>>14831529
>tf2
Not even close to what Overwatch pulled with it's Character abilities at launch,
even with all these years of wacky weapon drops.
Number of Classes in TF2: 9
Number of "Heroes" in OW: 21 at launch + 6
Your playing a fucking MOBA dude.
The TF2 people got conned Bigly.
758a58 No.14831539
>>14831501
fear has no a part in this that comes later,but in the meantime why throw my swines before pearls?
4c6434 No.14831542
>>14831535
>it's not a TF2 clone because it has more characters
Literally retarded.
0d3b34 No.14831550
>>14831542
It's not a tf2 clone because it's made to be as not fun as possible.
b09dc3 No.14831553
>>14831272
>It's obvious that the fun and creative designs of the original cast's creators checked out
Take off your rose tinted glasses anon.
The taint has been there since the beginning.
a97bd0 No.14831589
>>14831013
>skill meme
>Loser detected.
only losers care about skill, right?
how can you call other people losers if you have an "everybody is a winner" participation medal mindset?
70f779 No.14831599
>>14831431
There are dark pits of hell for the most damned souls, and Carlos; none of them are horrible enough to rightfully punish you
0d3b34 No.14831605
>>14831589
losers don't participate :^)
5942ae No.14831606
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14830904
>Do you even hear about it anymore?
I haven't cared about OW for a long time, but I think Blizzard is trying to hard to appeal everyone. This is especially evident with their pro league.
>Vid related
>>14830981
>Overwatch has way more complexity than pretty much any other shooter.
Obvious bait, but I'll bite.
OW's complexity is only skin deep and is derived not of a few deep mechanics, but by proliferation.
>6 players on either team each with multiple abilities you personally need to keep track of at all times.
I don't think anyone can keep track of all abilities, but they do need to keep track of what each character does. Stuns, flashes, pushes, etc. are all understood and known mechanics, but the "depth" simply comes down to knowing each character.
>>14831044
>This is why competitive R6:S is relatatively fun to watch.
It's also far slower and, I would argue, it also has far more interesting gameplay derived from deeper mechanics. What sets apart CS:GO, Quake, Siege and OW is each player's TTK. In the three former games every player has the tools to dispatch enemies fast. In OW, a select few characters are made with fast enemy dispatchment in mind, which is why it's so often called a First-Person MOBA.
d710a6 No.14831629
>>14830904
My law: any game that tries to be accessible yet only has an arena mode with no wider world will die quickly.
6f1074 No.14831640
>>14831120
>channers
>t.casual normalfagfaggot
You clearly dont belong here
>>>/africa/
4c6434 No.14831646
>>14831629
Also known as: Multiplayer-only games without Singleplayer mode are incomplete.
398d2b No.14831656
>>14831589
>only losers care about skill, right?
More like only losers think that others win without having skill, it is not lack of losers skill it is *insert excuses here*.
> if you have an "everybody is a winner" participation medal mindset?
I dunno how do you came to such conclusion.
d2a114 No.14831657
>>14831421
I finished the chart I was talking about in those caps.
>I would ask if they're still true when it comes to balance comments
There have been a handful of balance changes; Mercy, for instance, can no longer revive your entire team, but instead has access to a single revive once every X seconds, and her ultimate transforms her into a very strong DPS class for a decent amount of time. It's not quite as cancerous as undoing another team's victory, but I browsed some forums when I heard news of the change and the general reaction seemed to be:
>this is even more cancer because individual kills, which happen far more frequently than team kills, are less meaningful
>running around the map and making use of this ability as soon as it's off cooldown is a huge pain in the ass
>her DPS ultimate makes her better than many other DPSs, which a healer should not be
>the actual broken shit in the meta just adjusted so mercy is no longer 100% necessary, and is still stale despite being a "dive meta" or a "power meta" or whatever instead of the "tank meta" it was before
>oddly high numbers of posts saying "does anyone else not find the game fun anymore?"
The players had also begun noticing that Tracer, being the face of the game, would never be nerfed despite breaking the rules in the same ways as other characters who did receive nerfs. The intersection of balance and marketing has killed other games like Tribes: Ascend (remember the Jackal? better pay up unless you want to lose), and I think even the game's apologists are sick of such a transparent push from marketing.
The Orwellian police state Blizzard has attempted to enact didn't help matters, either.
398d2b No.14831677
>>14831657
How to save OW but SJW Blizzard can never implement this:
>disband teams
>introduce no ranks fully random matchmaking Wild West mode
>start "Wild West league" of single players who compete on the ladder for stats: winrate, number of kills for DPS characters, etc
>full e-celebs raping noobs on the Twitch streams mode, e-celebs are in full fashion right now, jump on train quick
>…?
>profit!
fb081c No.14831701
>>14830904
OW's hype was created by marketing. It combined some of the things that games before it did, polished them and the marketing hype and the fact that it's Blizzard's first independent IP in years did the rest. If the same game was made by a different company, it wouldn't have achieved even half the success OW did.
I play OW for the ffa deathmatch and a bit of competitive mode sometimes and it's a fun time. Describing it as a "mario party of shooters" is very accurate.
I hope the esports scene fucking dies already, it's the most retarded shit and blizzard's just making it worse with all the ridiculous anti-fun restrictions they're tagging on like it's some kind of professional sport. In fact, all esports that try to police and control the behavior of pro players and prevent banter and similar don't deserve to exist. It's like you're taking the essence of competitive video games out of them and just showing a watered down shitty version.
1bd41f No.14831718
>>14831539
Just an excuse of your fear to be shit on.
5c0294 No.14831761
>brigitte comes out
>enjoy playing her
>team sucks, have to switch to orissa
Every
Single
Match
a4f948 No.14831775
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14831606
>>Vid related
The other problem with the OWL is that it's nearly impossible to have a proper esport journalist to report on it because no one is really interested in Overwatch and the shitty community will also go against any people who criticize the game (see video)
Also the teabagging problem: https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=KiAsODzKTRY
1b6009 No.14831801
>>14830904
Personal opinion without reading thread:
>blizzard's well-deserved notoriety for poor balancing that causes them to change the entire playstyle of specific characters every week
>modern vidya relies on "meta" pushed out by streamers
why the fuck is there a new term for strategy? these creatures born after 2000 can go to hell
>aforementioned gameplay changes affect the "meta" which pisses off amateur e-sports competitors who can't adapt
>new games on the side that involve little to no tactics scrape away at games made before it
>people who stick to the game after all this just get bored of the same old maps and tired of their preferred characters being revamped every few weeks because blizzard thought of something else
30a70f No.14831837
>>14831539
don't answer that
a97bd0 No.14831843
>>14831656
>pretends that skill is a meme
>gets called out on it
>j/k guys, i was only pretending to be retarded, of COURSE skill is a real thing!
>Owned!.jpg
LOL
2fa902 No.14831909
>>14831775
>teabag video
>beard
>bespectacled
>bald
>not a beta soyboy SJW
What kind of weird daywalker is this?
1b6009 No.14831929
>>14831909
It's someone who actually plays videogames, probably.
a4f948 No.14831932
>>14831909
A man.
He's also the guy who leaked the Overwatch League code of conduct.
a97bd0 No.14831954
>>14831657
>Overwatch Theft Chart.png
has nobody mentioned how much overwatch stole from super monday night combat (SMNC) yet?
http://mondaynightcombat.wikia.com/wiki/Monday_Night_Combat_Wiki
https://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Overwatch_Wiki
genji: captain spark (SMNC)
mccree: gunslinger (SMNC)
pharah: megabeth (SMNC)
soldier 76: assault (SMNC)
sombra: assassin (SMNC)
tracer: tanya (red alert 3)
bastion: robo hobo (SMNC)
hanzo: artemis (SMNC)
junkrat: demoman (TF2)
torbjorn: engineer (TF2) & support (SMNC)
widowmaker: sniper (SMNC)
reinhardt: tank (SMNC)
roadhog: veteran (SMNC)
winston: cheston (SMNC)
ana: crossbow + kritzkrieg medic (TF2)
lucio: robo hobo (SMNC)
mercy: kritzkrieg medic (TF2) + combat girl (SMNC)
moira: support (SMNC) + combat girl (SMNC)
symmetra: combat girl (SMNC)
70f779 No.14831957
>>14831657
Coming from someone who had played overmeme quite recently part becasue I am poor as fuck and part because there was no alternative until I got back into Planetside 2, I'll tell you why OW balance is still shit (Not just the infrequent content updates, consumer unfriendly cosmetic floods and general lack of gamemodes)
>1. Tracer exists
Tracer is statistically the most broken hero in the game; is the most broken hero in the game (gameplay-wise) and has always retained a strong place in a meta which shifts entirely to counter her. Despite this; the game appears to be balanced around her (her receiving no significant balance changes ever) and the plebs decrying she is the most balanced hero because she is marginally harder to play than most of the cast (thus her not rising to prominence in the lower SR tiers where community bitching would have got her nerfed alike Hog/ Bastion)
In the months of the game being out, she has never been nerfed in any meaningful way; allowing her:
-Tied smallest hitbox in the game (w/DVa)
-3rd highest standard DPS in the game (outside of a direct Bastion and a Reaper meatshot)
-Optimal range for most maps (her spread/falloff gives her about 15-20m, which is the general length of most chokes)
-One of the best mobility capabilities in the game (Easily the best Horizontal mobility; arguably the more important of the two axis)
-2 get-out-of-jail-free cards; one of which can be used 3 times with no punishment
-The most independent and self-sustaining DPS hero in the game; allowing her to operate effectively on any composition
-Effective healthpool of 225-250hp, 299 if you are a lucky bastard
-Despite having 150hp, most attacks in the game are balanced to 3shot her alike the rest of the cast (lots >70dmg attacks, McCree, Hanzo Torb, Doomfist uncharge/no wall, Ana etc); making the health penalty nigh unnoticeable outside of chip damage.
-One of the fastest charging ults in the game; which is a guaranteed instakill on everything that isn't a tank (which aren't her targets anyways). Bastion arguably the worst hero in the game was literally nerfed further because her ult couldn't oneshot him in turret form (left him with like 25hp that the Tracer would ACTUALLY HAVE TO PLAY AROUND)
-Ult can actually deal explosive damage with no immediate falloff; comboing with Zarya and Rein (two extremely common ults) and making an entire composition almost redundant (Deathball)
Pic related is how broken she is
>2.Lack of balance around mobility
As mentioned in the Tracer rant; mobility is a large factor of a heroes effectiveness. It is no coincidence that high mobility heroes have found a consistant place in the meta. Not only are they less of a sitting duck; but they enable different flanks and faster re-engage after respawn; with no notable drawbacks.
Tracer, Genji, Winston, D.Va, Mercy, Lucio and Sombra make up the most mobile heroes in the game; and it is no coincidence that all have them have seen strong usage in the meta Sombra slightly less due to her complete lack of DPS/lack of post 'buff' utility. That meta alone of those 6 heroes; the Dive meta; is the longest reigning meta ever, being quite literally uncontested for 5 seasons (4,5,7,8,9) of OW's lived 10 and being a background part of 3 more (2,3,6). Anybody who says TriTank was bad (who saw minor use for Season 2 and major use in Season 3-never uncontested use) is a liar, a swindler and should not be trusted.
Yet the OW team just don't get it. Jeff unironically thought a new comp would be found to counter Dive naturally, with no input needed, within 2-3weeks. Then almost 9 months later and after 2 failed dedicated heroes to counter Dive; they accidentally knocked Dive out for Season 6 by making Mercy so appallingly broken it was more beneficial to play to her strengths than Dive in general. After Mercy got incrementally nerfed; Dive was back. And that is the way of things until recently, as continued later with the addition of the new broke hero Brigitte calling it now; Brig is the tranny of the cast. Not using the trap build, more of a Blaire White-y build
70f779 No.14831967
>3. Destruction of Tanks and Zoning
Simply put; Tanks have been shat on for all of OW's lifecycle. A role which asks players to Protect and Zone for their team has seen a continuous shift to 'beefy DPS' over time.
Of the Protector Tanks;
-Rein has seen somewhat moderate usage; but is heavily countered by mobility. His changes have seen his ultimate become useless for people who could jump when the ulthorn sounded at the benefit of his swinging his hammer faster (Damage buff; remember this)
-Orisa was introduced clearly to counter Dive. She fails this however, by being less mobile and adaptable than Rein and having an ability that by all measures; is one of the most useless in the game (a comparatively moderate difficulty, slow moving minor 1-2m pull). She can defend to a decent extent on defence but is pretty useless on offence. Ult is literally a worse; long charging version of Mercys'. In exchange for these less than optimal tanking abilities; she is given a good level of DPS providing you can lead shots like a 4yr old.
-Winston doesn't act like a tank, he acts like a beefy harasser DPS able to dispose of D.Va bombs. Zoning capabilities exist with his ult; but he is much better at damaging things, since his chip damage adds up in a group fight.
Of the Zoning Tanks;
-Zarya zones by having high damage output at full charge (a feat a chimp can do in 4 seconds) and a dangerous ult. If you class a 200hp burst to a single teammate every few seconds as 'protecting the team', then sure she can do that too I suppose.
-D.Va, the most confused hero of the cast, couldn't decide if she wants to be a sec tank; or a decent zone/protect tank hybred; or a high damage bully, so now she just gets to be a one-combo-wonder fat burst DPS who delete basically anyone she wants with cooldowns. Her tanking/zoning capabilities are basically redundant now; her ult can even be used more as a literal bomb rather than a zoning tool since she doesn't care if she needs to find a way out for herself.
-Hog. My Baby. What was once the best zonetank in the game is the true example of OW balance. A one-trick wonder who entirely relied on his hook to scare off squishies; was giganerfed and turned into a mediocre fat DPS. He was, and still is completely useless as a zonetank without hook. 'Buffed' with a faster RoF and his self heal making him more of an ult battery. Currently a shitter magnet who indirectly throws games.
-Oh what was that? You wanted more? Well sorry, but there aren't any more tanks. 7/9 Supports (if you count the builders who can operate in a supportive way), 15 DPS. Fuck you. Dishonourable mentions go to Mei, who could operate moderately well as a zonetank if they stopped trying to buff her damage and Brigitte who is a capable Tank, Support and a DPS all in one with stuns, zoning, a shield, moderate DPS, a burst heal and the passive of being a better heal Lucio; and basically in a class of her own
>4. Further lack of balance updates
Then the final issue. The game doesn't get changed anymore. Rather than keeping balance in constant flux by adjusting numerous values at once like what happened through Seasons 1-4, the OW team has decided to make minor number/value changes alongside perhaps a minor rework the norm for balance patches. Whether this is because Jeff wants to keep Dive the meta (admitting he thinks one fight you can't keep track of every 30s with a pool of 8 heroes is more entertaining than more slower and 'stratified' plans with more varied pools like Deathball, Beyblade or Tri/Quadtank) or because they don't want to seem unstable to investors in the OWL or because of basic incompetency is up to you. The standard of balance isn't even that good; with the last few reworks/heroes completely outmatching the rest of the cast and breaking the game (Prenerf Mercy at 100% pickrate, nuHanzo at 60% pickrate, Brigitte at 60% pickrate along with ushering in a new mono meta of Rein/Zar/Han/Mer/Zen/Brig because she actually counters Tracer/Genji to a lesser extent)
tl;dr Fuck this game, press S to spit on grave. If someone has the graph of the curve of overwatch playercount announcements against time; post it please.
a97bd0 No.14831971
>>14831954
>sombra: assassin (SMNC)
+ support (MNC) has a literal "hacking" ability
d2e9c6 No.14832012
>>14831954
>SMNC
Such potential, and yet it died within months.
67b26e No.14832025
>>14830922
That's what he's implying, older hits faded out like candles while new "hits" are matches
>light analogy
59c83d No.14832037
>>14831954
>mccree: gunslinger (SMNC)
Do you even read what you post?
I checked both characters, and neither abilities nor aesthetic correspond with each other's.
Not gonna bother with the rest, seeing the examples are flawed.
You need to do better research, because shit like what you posted discredits all criticism.
03a8d3 No.14832061
>>14832025
This makes no sense LoL and CS both died out within a year CoD is probably the only game that had a 5 year popularity lifespan
70f779 No.14832102
<Look at this dude
>Oh no ohno ohno
>LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD BWAHAHAHHAHAHA
d6510f No.14832110
ba29e2 No.14832113
reminder that fapping to overwatch porn is draining your spiritual power and it's all going directly to blizzards marketing fund. I haven't fapped to an overwatch picture in 2 years and my willpower is killing this game, you can thank me for its death. Also this thread is a marketing thread so polite sage.
71c521 No.14832117
>>14832102
>that hair
>that color scheme
Is that from that one leaf cartoon?
a97bd0 No.14832119
>>14832037
>I checked both characters, and neither abilities nor aesthetic correspond with each other's.
wrong.
>>14832037
>Not gonna bother with the rest
>what you posted discredits all criticism
how much do they pay you for overwatch "PR" on /v/?
sounds like a pretty lousy, low-paying job.
d7f9f6 No.14832123
>>14830904
It kind of is, but at the same time a lot of shits I knew who had "loyalty" only to TF2 have started moving over to Overwatch. And a lot of SFMfags on youtube who used to do TF2 shit are now doing Overwatch shit instead. One of the biggest vids was a shitty crossover between TF2 and OW.
000000 No.14832125
>running out of steam
It's been spiritually dead probably since it was redesigned from its original MMO. Blizzard has a habit of chasing casual cows at the expense of people who actually play games. The desparation of no-name drawfags for recognition and patreon bucks keeps them alive in the community and attracts more tumblrinas. Blizzard is all art and promotion now, their games are completely shallow. I'm sure they don't even pay their artists what they're worth either, considering they're the entire company at this point, and just pump out assets ad infinitum.
d7f9f6 No.14832127
>>14832102
This reminds me, Ready Player One was a mistake. OW started trending more after that shit flick came out.
a4f948 No.14832148
>>14832127
> Ready Player One was a mistake
The book was already a mistake.
70f779 No.14832151
>>14831967
Becasue nobody did, here is the graph home-made
>>14832127
It could be the reason why the 40m figure/trendline is so inconsistent when compared to the rest of the data, and why Tigole/OW PR team didn't make a big thing of it (parading the fact a big movie slightly resurrected the corpse of a dying game with a few minute long cameo of the worst mascot girl isn't the best idea in most cases)
6e9dc3 No.14832195
>>14831504
there is health distortion between characters in RB6 siege it just works because 1 shot headshots and the gameplay revolves around stealth and gunfights instead of just popping abilities and shooting(which is what they were doing in chimera but it didn't really work out)
6e9dc3 No.14832199
>>14832061
RB6 can last more than 5 years if they don't ruin it with the incoming seasons and CS will have a following until the end of time.
bf694e No.14832410
I actually like Paladins a lot more than Overwatch. I like the card aspect and the power ups you can buy in game.
One of the devs also claimed OW copied one of their characters.
4ad146 No.14832431
>>14832410
What's Paladins like gameplay-wise?
982e8f No.14832445
>>14832431
overwatch with buying equipment with money you get for playing well just like in mobashits
a67b17 No.14832455
>>14831189
He is very wrong. He (and you) are just using a pathetically small sample size of shit shallow games to compare it to. Is Overwatch more complex than ARMA, for example? What about Battlefield 1942? RO2? Angels Fall First? Squad? Wolf: ET?
A glass of water is deep if you spend all your time wallowing in puddles of piss, anon. But you shouldn't talk like you're a master of the high seas if that's the case.
59c83d No.14832479
>>14832119
>gunslinger has two guns
<mcree one
>gunslinger can ironsight
<mcree not
>gunslinger can shoot a piercing round
<mcree not
<mcree has a flashbang/stun
>gunslinger not
<mcree can shoot all the bullets on his revolver in a single burst
>gunslinger not
<mcree can roll
>gunslinger not
dude, are you shitposting or what?
their designs aren't even remotely alike
45e327 No.14832501
>ban everyone for being toxic
>game dies
And so blizzard continued it's decline from mediocrity to shit.
139f9d No.14832503
>>14832479
They both shoot revolvers so they must be the same.
bf76e6 No.14832507
>>14831055
At least R6 isn't just a blob of sparkling explodey partical effects
a4f948 No.14832512
>>14832507
Rainbow Six no, Siege on the other hand…
bf76e6 No.14832525
>>14831775
>teabagging
>"problem"
Ah right, Blizzard and their pussyfoot pampering. No hurting people's feelings or maining only one class, or you'll be banned!
18c67c No.14832531
>>14832431
Two standard modes: Deathmatch and Siege (payload) and then there's Ranked which is locked until level 15.
The more interesting part is your card loadouts that enhance and buff your champion in different ways. You can have multiple loadouts per Champion. Plus during the game you can spend points you earn on further enhancements which is helpful because you can't change your hero during the match.
The thing that really holds it back is that it's free to play so they lock out most of the Champions and you either earn in game currency to unlock them or buy them with real money points. I think it's a better game overall except for that.
372263 No.14832542
>>14832479
This pretty much sums up 90% of the criticism this board gives OW. There's a few guys who actually know what they're talking about who make big posts with real concerns but it's mostly fags who never even gave the game an actual once-over/formed their own opinion. They just see one "smart post", take away only the most basic parts, then regurgitate it and get pats on the back for having "the right opinion".
There's many things wrong with OW but fags always laser focus on the stupid shit.
ed2751 No.14832562
>>14832542
I guess it's just anons that see themselves as gatekeepers against games that Reddit and Tumblr like.
17a046 No.14832627
98ffc1 No.14832645
>>14832542
>Be me a couple of years ago
>Hey anon you like team based class shooters, you should check out overwatch
>Watch some videos of it
>Shit is just flying everywhere at random. No stragegy just a massive clusterfuck.
>Reminds me of those Japanese Gundam games
>Decide its not a game I would enjoy
I guess I was supposed to buy it at full price in order to decide that I dont want to play it?
a4450c No.14832657
Meanwhile, Blizzard is expanding their overwatch licensing to various brands, most notably Hasbro and Lego.
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20180522005658/en/
The franchise may be dying, but is still far from dead. Meme harder.
a67b17 No.14832696
>>14832431
It's Overwatch for people who can't afford to throw down £30 upfront.
372263 No.14832707
>>14832645
<I don't know anything about this game
<I watch a video and can't tell what's happening
<It must be that the game is shit and not that I honestly don't know what happening so I can't discern what the players are trying to acomplish
>I guess I was supposed to buy it at full price in order to decide that I don't want to play it?
No, it's just a universal concept that if you don't know or understand the game or mechanics and write is off in a lump sum as an "autistic clusterfuck" then you shouldn't pretend that you're putting forth an informed opinion.
In my experience I found that the lack of ammunition and extensive splitting of roles combined with endless 1-off matchmaking and authoritarian moderation is primarily what make the game shit. Not because I just don't know what's going on.
98ffc1 No.14832808
>>14832696
A game like this really does benefit from pepole being able to try it out.
I think a lot of the most disappointed pepole were those who went in to Overwatch expecting it to be a strategic team shooter like TF2. Rather than just shit flying everywhere.
1b6009 No.14832838
>>14832431
Very quick matches, shiny and almost comfy aesthetic, and characters that don't have to use one another as a crutch.
It's actually pretty good, should give it a shot.
bbc955 No.14832876
>>14831009
>Overwatch
>more complexity than Quake
6/10 got me to reply.
98a40d No.14832967
>>14832102
I'm sure Cliff Bleszinski will enjoy this JUST nod since his his studio is shutdown. Maybe he'll sucker another company to fund his VR concept.
578b7a No.14833178
>>14832967
Cliff is done unless he comes out of pocket or crowdfunds. He's basically proved Epic right for telling him no every time. Likewise for Shaeffer and Activision. The differences is one was able finagle nostalgia bucks, social marxist support, and even went on to invest into his own crowdfunding platform. Cliffyb doesn't have access to to this. He's better off retired at this point. Add David Jaffe, Richard Garriot, and Chris Roberts one SC collapses. Time for bed old timers.
afde15 No.14833207
It's what happens every time.
Any time a company pursues esports aggressively with a game the game always fails.
"We've made this with esports in mind!" is the surest way to ensure a games total failure.
26f5a3 No.14833217
>>14830904
This is okay. This is perfectly fine. As someone who used to enjoy WoW many years ago watching blizzard completely shit on all of their games, diablo & starcraft included it fills me with great joy to see them continue to bring out a series of never ending spectacular failures. My only hope for this company now is for them to wither away and die just like they neglected their own games in the same exact manner.
26f5a3 No.14833248
>>14833230
They let their old games die and their new ones are complete trash. Maybe I'm wrong and they'll continue chugging along but I hope it only gets worse for them as time passes. Then again companies like EA are doing just fine even after ruining countless of games in the past.
a07c1b No.14833256
>>14833248
Blizzard will never fail because their core fanbase is reddit neckbeards and LITERAL 12 yr kids. As long as they keep OW a game made for literal retards, they will keep doing just well.
a97bd0 No.14833461
>>14832479
>their designs aren't even remotely alike
http://mondaynightcombat.wikia.com/wiki/Gunslinger
Skill 1 Trigger Happy (shoot & reload faster)
Skill 2 Gun Flurry (lose movement speed & fire a barrage of bullets at multiple targets)
Skill 3 Knee Cap (slows enemies in a small area in front of you, also minor damage)
https://overwatch.gamepedia.com/McCree
Abilities
Fan the Hammer (shoot faster)
Combat Roll (reload faster)
Deadeye (lose movement speed & fire a barrage of bullets at multiple targets)
Flashbang (stuns enemies in a small area in front of you, also minor damage)
i did not say that mccree is identical to gunslinger (SMNC). that said, seemingly mccree's design is almost a direct ripoff of gunslinger (SMNC).
the differences between mccree and gunslinger (SMNC) are so small and contrived that very likely they were concocted by Blizzard lawyers so they could argue that "these characters are (barely) different!" if Blizzard got sued by Uber Entertainment
also, you ignored the rest of the characters listed in this post >>14831954
>>14832503
>They both shoot revolvers so they must be the same.
again, i did not say mccree and gunslinger (SMNC) are identical.
seemingly, mccree is a blizzard ripoff of gunslinger (SMNC)
pretty funny that blizzard sued a chinese entity for ripping off overwatch when overwatch itself is largely a ripoff of SMNC
331459 No.14833479
>>14833461
Wow anon, you're telling me that two cowboy themed characters have the same abilities of every cowboy from every video game fucking made ever? I'm shocked.
a97bd0 No.14833597
>>14832037
>mccree: gunslinger (SMNC)
>I checked both characters, and neither abilities nor aesthetic correspond with each other's.
>>14832479
>their designs aren't even remotely alike
>>14833479
>Wow anon, you're telling me that two cowboy themed characters have the same abilities of every cowboy from every video game fucking made ever? I'm shocked.
"mccree and gunslinger are NOT identical, they have different aesthetics and designs!"
"mccree and gunslinger are NOT identical, they have different designs!"
"mccree and gunslinger have the same aesthetics and designs, DUH!"
LOL
>>14833479
>Wow anon, you're telling me that two cowboy themed characters have the same abilities of every cowboy from every video game fucking made ever? I'm shocked.
overwatch ripped off more than a cowboy themed character from SMNC. check the rest of the characters listed here >>14831954
5ac6e1 No.14833632
>>14832410
>Shoulder Bash/Shield Bash
>Siege Shield/Barrier Shield
>Rally/Assert Dominance
>STILL doesn't get sued
Alpha as hell
e2f526 No.14833653
>>14833632
Because you cannot copyright game mechanics in America.
Thankfully, it is one more shitstorm we don't need. It would single handedly kill entire market. It would only be EA buying out companies who made game with x mechanic first and using them to sue everybody else.
Evem through it would be fun to see entire market crash solely because of how shitty it is.
af2d30 No.14833655
>>14833217
you can't die if you print money (hearstone)
5ac6e1 No.14833665
>>14833479
>This is a copypaste
>This isn't a copypaste
>Here's proof it is
>Wow what does being a copypaste prove
I'm convinced.
Keeping in mind we wouldn't even have touched the subject it if was JUST the gunslinger, but there were other blatant copies out.
>>>/hell/
b56fbb No.14833682
>>14831076
>>14830904
Nigga no.
Starcraft got a second wind after going free2pray.
As far as I can tell both the jewtubers and streamer cunts are gaining more and more subs/views.
We'll see how long it lasts and if pizzard is capable of not fucking it up and not capitalizing on this shit.
aaf0a7 No.14833693
I mean the game is so developer controlled it caps out both its fun and skill levels really quickly. The devs are not only constantly kneecapping characters at random, but they also keep widening the goal posts on what they consider to be toxic and banning people over using the emotes provided in game and other nonsense. Also the classic death toll of being primarily matchmaking based means no actual communities develop. People que up with their friends on a third party chat client like disagreement/skype/mumble and go play some rounds ignoring the other players because they won't play with them again. The only incentive the devs make to keep people engaged is releasing a new map or hero once in a blue moon. Sometimes they make a LIMITED event gametype that people find fun but then they can't play it again until next year so what's the point of that.
I got suckered into buying this fucking game to play with my buddies because i was happy to play something even if it was casual if it meant playing with my friends more frequently again but of course everyone just kinda got bored after awhile because the nature of the gametypes make everything play out the same again and again really quickly.
59c83d No.14833732
>>14833461
Holy fuck get off your high horse and accept that you were wrong on that point.
Mcree is fucking robo-Clint Eastwood, the gunslinger doesn't look like a spaguettiwestern cowboy.
You can cherrypick all you want, but I've seen two videos about how those two characters play and they are vastly different.
I'm not saying blizzard are saints and perfect, just stating that the copy-pasta needs to be modified, because it makes you look retarded.
And chill out with the assumptions, I was the first person calling bullshit on that mechanic character being a copy-paste of the fucking engineer and as a fucking engineer "main", believe me, i was livid they weren't being sued
59c83d No.14833735
>>14833732
Pft, pretty sure that wasn't going to be posted plebbit-spaced, my bad.
ce84db No.14833778
>>14833735
nice try, reddit
59c83d No.14833803
>>14831954
You know what, i'm feeling autist, so i'm gonna continue my list of why you're wrong on the majority of those characters and how you are retarded:
>genji: cyber ninja, shurikens, no close-range weapon except for "ultimate ability"
<captain spark: take on old sci-fi heroes, close-range oriented character
>phara: a flying, jet-pack armored woman, has a rocket launcher, cannot rocket-jump, blizzard added a "propulsion cannon" aka single "rocket"-jump with no damage, baby mode
<megabet: a fucking rollerskating/rollerderby girl, has a rocket-launcher, rocket-jumping seems an important mechanic to her, also HAS A FUCKING FRISBEE
>sombra: le ebin hacker, full spic has even a fucking uzi, not suited for close-combat, can teleport and disable other enemy abilities
<assasin: now THIS SHOULD BE ON GENJI YOU DOUBLE NIGGER, because THIS is a literal copy-paste of aesthetics and even has shurikens, close-combat and high mobility
Like I said, fucking do you homework and make a better copypaste, because it has potential.
That comparison of those two robots >>14833597 is golden.
And the sniper:widowmaker shit too, it's the same character but as a woman.
d85924 No.14834028
Well, you could call it Underwatch now.
799de1 No.14834048
How many and how bad of games does blizz have to release before their brand is looked at poorly by normalfags?
aaf0a7 No.14834071
>>14834048
>before their brand is looked at poorly by normalfags?
normalfags don't have publisher/developer recognition.
fb084d No.14834085
>>14830904
>>14830921
Current event tries to hype up the fact that you can get anything from past events on loot boxes, but the most wanted items are still way too rare and now the drop tables are highly diluted, at this point the only people buying many loot boxes are streamers who still play the game and buy in 100s.
bbc955 No.14834155
>>14833806
>pcposting
>>14834028
I guess this game has become Overrated.
61ba6a No.14834162
>>14830904
In case anyone didn't realize, this is Blizzard's standard. They support their games at a snail's pace. This has always been the same for all of their games, but is most notable now that they've moved to this multiplayer-centric standard. People can only play the same maps with the same heroes so much, or run the same dungeons so much. It's why all of their games "die" before drawing back a crowd with a new update which leaves everyone dissatisfied with how little was actually changed/added.
a97bd0 No.14834174
>>14833732
>Holy fuck get off your high horse and accept that you were wrong on that point.
>types someone who suggested that mccree was not a ripoff of gunslinger (SMNC) despite pictures and game mechanic descriptions suggesting otherwise
looks like you were wrong here. how about you get off your high horse and admit you were wrong on that point?
>>14833732
>they are vastly different
guess not.
>>14833803
>i'm gonna continue my list of why you're wrong on the majority of those characters and how you are retarded
>demonstrates how skin-deep this poster's knowledge of characters & game mechanics in SMNC and overwatch is
>for example: this poster seemingly can't comprehend how genji and captain spark are almost identical characters (high mobility, area-of-effect sword attacks, single shot & 3 burst shot ranged attacks, directional fast dashes through the air) because ASSASSIN has the shurikens!
and you're telling OTHERS to do their homework? LOL
>>14833803
>That comparison of those two robots >>14833597 is golden.
at least you got that comparison
758100 No.14834175
>>14833732
>>14833803
Sage isn't a downboat, Blizzcuck.
20a510 No.14834185
>>14830911
>Blizz rigs ranked to make cash
How so?
67148d No.14834204
>>14831553
Lucia is a roller blading DJ who uses EDM to heal and buff his team mates. Zarya is a giant strong Russian woman with strong patriotic overtones.
Both of these designs are unique and offer interesting gameplay. I used to main Lucio because his design and playstyle were so unique and fun. None of the new characters are as well designed as Lucio.
Zarya being a meat woman allowed her to carry the biggest weapon in the game and be all MUTHA RUSSHA and that shit was awesome. The new characters are fucking lame.
0d29b5 No.14834224
>>14834204
>Zarya
>Unique
She's the TF2 Heavy with a wig on. That's not unique at all.
af838b No.14834238
>>14834204
I could accept Lucio even though he's just Jet Set Radio mixed with Elena from Street Fighter, but the only thing that's mildly interesting about Zarya are the damage absorbing shields, and even that isn't original.
661993 No.14834249
>>14834185
Someone mentioned it in the last thread, but from what I gathered the idea is this:
>buy overwatch
>do your placement matches
>get assigned a rank
>secretly, the game assigns you a number based on these initial placement matches which will never change
>grind throughout the season, eventually reach high rank
>season reset rolls around
>get demoted back to your initial rank despite having maintained a higher ranking for quite a while
>consult fellow players, one of whom mentions he tried making another account on PSN and seemed to bypass this issue
>buy another copy of the game for another account on PC
>problem no longer exists because you're placed at a high "permanent rank"
The anon who posited this theory had a bunch of battle.net forum links from people who had come to the same conclusion. I read through them a bit, and although obviously you can't prove something like this, there's enough evidence to consider something fishy happening.
af838b No.14834257
>>14834249
>lock player ELO to get more money from smurf accounts
That has to be one of the dumbest things i've ever heard and I believe it.
b1c0b2 No.14834265
>>14830981
>Overwatch
>complexity
The entire formula is:
- Stay on the objective
- Shoot enemy team
- Don't get shot yourself
- Press Q
Did I lose anybody back there? I know this is pretty complex so I can explain it again, but more slowly if needed.
aaf0a7 No.14834267
>>14834249
what level of brainlet do you have to be to fall for the ranked meme though? All these modern games are trying this thing where you fight for a arbitrary color/gem/tier rank only to get it reset anyway
c6089f No.14834283
>friend starts getting really into e-sports
>keeps insisting that e-"sports" are real sports
>he's into overwatch in particular
>and I mean really into it, he buys all the team merchandise and everything
>starts talking my ear off about it all, and tells me about "his" team
>they're from london
>except they aren't, because they're all fucking korean
>apparently every team is like this, and pretty much nobody on any team is from whatever place the team claims to represent
>he doesn't find this strange at all
FUCKING WHY? WHAT'S THE POINT? IT'S A VIDEO GAME - YOU CAN PLAY IT OVER THE INTERNET. YOU CAN BE ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD. YOUR TEAM DOESN'T NEED TO BE ALL IN ONE PLACE TO PLAY TOGETHER AND YOUR TEAM DOESN'T NEED TO BE IN THE SAME PLACE AS THE OTHER TEAM TO PLAY AGAINST THEM.
WHY TRY TO TIE YOUR TEAMS TO GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATIONS IF NONE OF THEM EVEN FUCKING CAME FROM THERE? JUST TO BE MORE LIKE REAL SPORTS? THE LOCATION IS IRRELEVANT FOR ESPORTS BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO A SPECIFIC VENUE TO WATCH IT. THERE IS NO "LOCAL" TEAM. IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE.
WHY MAKE YOUR TEAMS WEAR TEAM JERSEYS IF ALL THEY DO IS SIT IN A FUCKING CHAIR? THEY AREN'T ATHLETES. IT'S SURE AS FUCK NOT NEEDED FOR QUICKLY IDENTIFYING PLAYERS, BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL FUCKING SITTING STILL. ALL THE ACTION HAPPENS IN THE GAME. IT'S POINTLESS. IS IT JUST TO PRETEND LIKE IT'S A REAL SPORT AGAIN? WAIT, NEVER MIND, THIS ONE'S EASY: IT'S SO YOU HAVE MORE SHITTY MERCHANDISE FOR THE NORMALFAG HORDES TO GOBBLE UP.
FUCKING HELL, IT'S ALL SO STUPID. EVERYTHING ABOUT IT FEELS SO ARTIFICIAL AND FORCED, LIKE YOU'RE JUST WAITING FOR SOME GUY WITH A CAMCORDER TO JUMP OUT FROM BEHIND A BUSH AND SHOUT "GOTCHA! IT WAS ALL A PRANK, AND YOU FELL FOR IT! YOU ACTUALLY STARTED BELIEVING ESPORTS WERE A REAL THING! HAHAHAHA YOU FELL FOR IT HOOK LINE AND SINKER YOU MORON!" AND THEN HE GOES AND SENDS THE TAPE IN TO FUNNIEST HOME VIDEOS AND WINS LIKE A HUNDRED BUCKS OR A GIFT VOUCHER TO USE AT BLOCKBUSTER OR SOME SHIT.
WHY WOULD YOU EVEN WATCH SOME OTHER DUMBASS PLAY VIDEOGAMES ANYWAY? PLAY IT YOURSELF. IT'S A FUCKING Ｖ Ｉ Ｄ Ｅ Ｏ Ｇ Ａ Ｍ Ｅ. YOU'VE ALREADY GOT IT INSTALLED. IT'S RIGHT THERE. YOU BOUGHT THE FUCKING GAME AT LAUNCH AND IT'S BEEN SITTING ON YOUR COMPUTER EVER SINCE. YOU PROBABLY EVEN PREORDERED THAT SHIT YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
IT'S ALL SO FUCKING STUPID
aaaa my fucking blood pressure my eyes hurt
a60630 No.14834286
It's almost like the game has no intrinsic merit, pandered exclusively to a microscopic minority of an already existing community and people only played it because it was new is a suboptimal strategy for developing a successful arena shooter.
It's a shame the aids managed to contract it's way back to the game you should be playing and killed pubs for Matchmaking faggotry, but whattya gonna do, also it's retarded the new weapons were locked to contracts and not achievements, but hey, it's debatable whether or not people will complain and they were added to the drop rotation like a month ago, so big deal.
fb084d No.14834290
>>14831059
40 million registered accounts basically, not players, should I remind you the game also has a serious case of smurfing streamers? in fact, Blizzard seems completely neglectful of telling us how many concurrent players there are at any point.
>>14831801
>people who stick to the game after all this just get bored of the same old maps and tired of their preferred characters being revamped every few weeks because blizzard thought of something else
D.Va every time and every time someone complains about her being a powerful hero.
>>14832410
Different kind of broken hitboxes, dominance of auto-aim skills, EA Battlefront II card and loot box system, DPS heroes are the only viable ones in most cases.
a60630 No.14834298
Oh and yes, the Ranking lock is a real thing as a ploy to drive up install and player numbers. Nearly every game with matchmaking does it.
aaf0a7 No.14834314
>>14831801
>>people who stick to the game after all this just get bored of the same old maps and tired of their preferred characters being revamped every few weeks because blizzard thought of something else
blizz isn't the only one guilty of this constant tweaking, fighting games and any other game with heroes/classes suffers from this now. easily patching games has had a real monkeys paw result where although you can quickly fix issues with a patch, what's considered an issue is decided by crybaby faggots on reddit. Makes me think of rainbow six siege where one of the base game operators has a drone with 15 taser shots in it, it's slow, has a big hitbox, and can't jump, it's mainly used for destroying gadgets since the taser does piddly damage to players. Shitters on reddit complained that they got ass-zapped too many times because they're too busy scratch and sniffing their balls so the response was to make it so that drone now has 5 shots, effectively sending an entire character to the bench. It only punished the players who were good. Same shit with fighting games, a character will have a special that people can't react to too fast or something similar so a patch comes and guts the character to the bottom of the tier list because its the bad players who complain the most.
661993 No.14834326
>>14834314
It's mostly Capcom and NRS "games as services" that suffer from that. ArcSys games might get questionable patches, but they don't get them too often. French Bread games never get patches, but they're usually balanced well.
c73da5 No.14834342
the "press Q to win" button never sat well with me even today when playing i was shot in the head through a building by a mccree
fb084d No.14834352
>>14834298
You mean the whole "forced 50% win rate" thing?
a60630 No.14834363
>>14834352
It's less forced 50% win rate more forced 50% boring rate, and only allowing the players you want to get to a tournament level get there.
Bonus money from smurfing is just cake frosting. That is, and has been CS:GO's primary strategy to try and "have a bigger playerbase" than CS:S and 1.6
81f108 No.14834366
>>14831076
Is Overwatch supposed to be a Best Korea simulator?
fb084d No.14834373
>>14834363
Can you elaborate more on that? I mean, I am certainly not a prime player material but people who defended the system kept saying you will always be stuck at the SR you "deserve" (a condescending way of saying, the SR you are optimal I guess), but if that were the case I think there shouldn't be any wild fluctuations like the usual streaks you get in OW.
17a046 No.14834379
a60630 No.14834390
>>14834373
In CS:GO, how you get matchmade is dependent on 1 a matchmaking key that is generated for you initially and a second key that is based off your first 40 matches and Steam Community reputation. (previously they didn't tell you this was the case, but now I believe the briefly mention it) this way Valve can selectively groom players to participate in tournaments and prevent ones that are, less than desirable from attaining a "high skill building environment" which tends to have players that aren't selected stagnate into the same strategies over and over rather than picking up and building new skills, it's also why there isn't really any big shifts in player behavior until some "pro" puts out a video. Which makes for a much more predictable game environment for the developers, and easier to play to strengths in methods for monetization.
fb084d No.14834395
>>14834390
Well, that certainly can explain a lot of patterns I am noticing when I play.
81368c No.14834476
>Have you noticed Overwatch
No, and I will continue not to. Adult cartoon aesthetic disgusts me.
a4f948 No.14834527
>>14834283
Everytime I hear "esports" I have that flashback of an E3 conference from EA where they had that NFL esport champion (an obese guy) who received a medal from a real NFL player.
4c9c82 No.14834544
>>14831232
Doesn't come close to WoW in its prime…and WoW was "let go" so that blizzard could spend efforts on crap like odersnatch and failures of the storm…i.e. derpy games targeted at braindead millenials who struggle to form complete sentences.
They could literally be generating 1.5-2x their current revenues by not ruining WoW. They literally have millions of potential subs just waiting, but not willing to play the current dumbed-down version.
90fac3 No.14834665
grandmaster rank zarya/orisa, it took me 350 hours to "achieve." it was pitifully easy and i wouldn't have bothered learning such a goofy ass game if i didn't love climbing ranked ladders.
the entire game is cooldowns.
identify the 6 classes on the other team, identify which of their cooldowns can kill you/force you out of position, wait/bait out that ability, then use the ability of yours that can kill them/force them out of position
aim does not matter unless you choose to play a class that requires you to click on heads
even then, tracer isn't that fast if you've ever played quake/tribes
having been in the voice chat for "high level play," i can confirm all your suspicions that overwatch's player base is made up of the most effeminate, limp-wristed, low self-esteem beta males on the internet. i've never heard so much whining, so many cringy pseudo-intellectual quips, so many broken spirits over bad team composition and rough starts to a round.
if csgo would get even one major update a year, i never would have even bought this trash.
8ad830 No.14834682
>>14834665
>You pissed away 15 days of your life on that shitty fucking game and have the audacity to be smug about it
fb084d No.14834692
>>14834665
I just love the "we don't need X" line they spew when they don't like your hero selection, specially during the beginning of a match, what makes it stupid is how they literally stop at that, very patronizing and not even followed by any other kind of advice, usually coming from one DPS player who would never switch out of their role if someone told them the same.
7dcc8a No.14834713
>>14834265
You are forgetting literally everything that can go into "dont get shot" and "shoot enemy team", plus "press q" (at the right time in the right place). Also "stay on the objective" is a good way to lose because the enemy has high ground
With that mindset you can boil quake down to just two of those 4 points: "shoot enemy and don't get shot" but that's not accurate there either. Quake is all about controlling the pickups and using the right weapon in the right place, but since it has fewer weapons, fewer places, and fewer moving pieces than Overwatch there's simply no way to call it more complex.
7dcc8a No.14834717
>>14832876
Quake is an EXTREMELY LOW complexity game. How do you people not understand this? It cuts out as many extraneous bits as it possibly can in order to focus on just the one thing it does well. It's just shooting in close to its purest, least complicated form.
0cf4a1 No.14834724
>>14830981
Good to see RottenRedditor still roams these parts.
c6089f No.14834736
>>14834724
>You're all going to forget this.
Gets me every time.
f49678 No.14834767
>>14831504
>If you want to play a MOBA fps with decent level design then play SMITE, don't give Blizzard's shiny turd any attention.
Don't play either.
Blizzard and Hi-Rez are equally cancerous, and both are everything currently wrong with the state of games.
92aa0b No.14834780
>>14830904
People are starting to get sick of ActiBlizz's shit.
>Balance patches are painstakingly slow.
>Any grassroots eSports for the game were killed off by their severely strict rules, which was intentional for they want OWL to be the only Overwatch eSports.
>New gamemodes are limited time. The most popular modes: Lucioball, Junkenstein's Revenge, and even the fucking story mode missions are locked to annual events, and can only be played during those events, and the Anniversary event. Not even in Custom Games, even though the Custom Games options are done, but they are REMOVED from the game after the event is over.
>Cosmetics are prioritized over new actual content.
>People are getting sick of the loot boxes thanks to LootBoxGate.
>$60 game and has fuckall for content. The only new modes it's gotten was CTF and Deathmatch, and they're just as bad as you'd think. Ironic only the shitty modes are made permanent, while the fun shit is limited time to get people to play and buy more loot boxes.
>Blizzard turned the whole game into a massive hugbox, even in Overwatch League. Here's a fun game, post a TF2 domination line in the text chat everytime you get a kill. See how fast you'll get banned.
>The game does not work as a comp game or an eSport for it's boring, and the main gameplay is pretty shit. Another anon made a detailed analysis on why Overwatch's main gameplay is shit. For an FPS that's supposed to make you feel like a superhero, it feels more like a first person MOBA.
>A lot of the characters are generic as fuck. They're either stereotypes who are PC, or social justice pandering (Tracer is especially guilty of this.)
Putting aside all the Reddit cancer, and the fact the playerbase cares more about ugly ass cosmetics then the game itself, it's just not a good game at all. Plus, the majority of the playerbase was moreso trendfollowers, and Overwatch was a trend that only lasted a year. The moment PUBG and Fortnite showed up, they immediately dumped this trash and jumped onto the battle royale boat. That boat will probably sink soon as well once a new trend shows up. So now at this point, Blizzard is just trying to appease the whales and children since they're the only ones dumb enough to keep playing this garbage. Why else do you think Overwatch is now getting not just a Nerf Rival toyline, but also a fucking Lego toyline as well?!
92aa0b No.14834786
>>14834780
PS, here's that anon's rant I mentioned.
b8d191 No.14834801
>>14831120
>cancer research
All these billions of dollars put into that research for so many years and we still have no preventative, nor know exactly what's setting it off most of the time
Cancer research is a fuckin joke
>>14831431
Fuck off already you worthless taco man
2a015d No.14834803
>>14834767
But smite is actually fun and skill-based.
fb084d No.14834815
>>14834801
There is a saying that goes "we are not paying for a research to cure cancer, we are paying for the companies to keep the cure out of the market" or something along those lines.
aaf0a7 No.14834819
>>14834801
>Cancer research is a fuckin joke
monopoly*
A lot of people would go out of business if there was a cure.
92aa0b No.14834821
>>14834819
Anon's right. Just look at Jimmy Carter. That fucking traitor should've been dead a long time ago, but they've been keeping him kicking because he has the cash.
beccb2 No.14834828
>>14834786
I already posted it further up, apparently the site is too retarded to notice duplicates in multi-image posts, even if it's the exact same ones in the exact same order. Again though, I have to wonder how true they are today.
92aa0b No.14834831
>>14834828
Still true. In fact, it was so true it seems Blizzard took some of the anon's advise as now Mercy's rez was nerfed to oblivion, to the point where she's no longer an autoinclude.
fb084d No.14834835
>>14834831
Checking the forums recently I stumble across threads that say Mercy's healing should be nerfed and her boost buffed.
b8d191 No.14834841
>>14832119
>cowboy nigress
WE
>>14834283
Pretty well put
92aa0b No.14834861
>>14834835
She's the fastest at healing, but not the best healer. That role belongs to Lucio (Since hes' an AoE heal) and Brigitte (Since she's just OP at everything)
0d3b34 No.14834871
>>14834174
Don't forget combat girl rip-off (who is significantly less attractive and fun).
89f1f8 No.14835020
>>14834801
The problem with cancer is that by it's very nature it's not a disease, it's a genetic mutation. You "Cure" cancer by killing the patient to prevent the production and spread of the bugged cells inside his body. The only viable alternative to this would be figuring out how to apply gene therapy to repair the damaged genome of the patient or replace his bone marrow entirely with a synthetic immune system made out of nanobots that would be programmed to constantly hunt down and destroy maverick cells.
Both of these require massive funding and research in bio engineering, but because of fee fees of liberals no one seriously invests into it, instead wasting millions to line up the pockets of jews who claim that they will cure cancer.
b8d5d5 No.14835031
>>14835020
>we could literally cure cancer if we bothered investing into genetic research again
>it will never happen if liberals can help it
5a8b44 No.14835042
>>14835020
just pay more taxes it will surely work out nigger
0d3b34 No.14835049
>>14834724
It's been a while since I read this entire episode and, oh boy, it was like I was being cyberbullied - I had to turn off my computer and just walk away. There was no part I could point at and say "that was particularly hilarious". The entire thing is just fucking magical.
>You're going to be the poster boy as to why we hate redditors and the benefits of anonymous posting.
I forgot I wrote that. It warms my heart to see anon ensuring this stays true.
>Happy birthday /v/
I forgot about this too. Go figure the 10th anniversary of the worst year ended up being such a great year. Rottenredditor was the truly, truly a gift for us all. God bless you, RR.
f49678 No.14835108
>>14834803
>actually supporting hi-rez in any way, shape or form
>see tribes
>see global agenda
>see paladins
>see them shutting down their forums and outsourcing it all onto fucking reddit of all places
>actually, unironically playing a reddit game
https://web.archive.org/web/20130808040505/http://www.hirezstudios.com/tribesascend/home/latest-news/view/hi-rez-studios-blog/2013/08/05/hi-rez-communication-focus
>But smite is actually fun and skill-based.
It's clear where you belong, and it's not here.
a07c1b No.14835132
>>14831550
>take tf2
<rip everything that made it fun
>attach it to a 7 second cooldown
>make everyone as bland as possible
Literally a shitty clone.
70f34f No.14835145
>>14835108
>that fucking link
jesus christ I had forgotten about that. hirez is fucking cancer and they need to be gassed
bcb277 No.14835181
It did what it was supposed to do. It made money while it was hot, and Blizzard has probably put it on the back burner since. Same thing is going to happen to Fortnite in 6 months. Just like it did with PUBG.
Its no longer about making a game that people will want to play or talk about 5-10 years from now. Its about seeing whats hot right now, pumping out the project, huge advertising budgets, reaping the profits, then letting it coast until it comes to a halt and dies. Wash, rinse, repeat. They got their money, now its time to move onto the next product.
Products, thats what games are now. Products. Things meant to be sold. Everything else doesn’t matter.
a023a9 No.14835191
>>14835020
>we could have a space colonization program
>and eugenics
>and genetic engineering research
>and a livable wage for every man
>and a quality education for every child
>and a safe home for every family
>and a nation that is the envy of the whole world
>and GOOD FUCKING VIDEOGAMES
If every white man just told niggers, spics, muds and kikes to fuck off. It gets me livid every single time I think about it.
d3234c No.14835262
>>14832431
>>14832531
I played it for a bit. Dropped it like a stone once I learned how incompetent and terrible the devs were.
Favorite example:
>Character named Torvald
>Cool big grandpa wizard kind of guy
>The guy lives and breaths shields.
>Has more shields than the rest of your team combined.
>His whole playstyle centers around his retarded huge shield and bumbling around, bullying people while your shield just eats everything they throw at you.
>No damage.
>Minimal crowd control.
>Shields and bullying is all you do.
>Now there's an item in the game called the Breaker that lets you tear through shields like they were tissue paper.
>Like more than triples your damage against shields.
>Not even the mighty Torvald can stand up to that much shield rip.
>This single item is grandpa Torvald's Achilles heel and makes him wish he never rolled out of bed that morning.
>It's pretty much the perfect counter to this giant hilarious sack of shit.
>There's only problem:
<People are too retarded to pick it up.
>Devs see this.
>Devs hear retards whine and moan that Torvald is too hard to kill.
>How Torvald just steamrolls through scrubs that don't pay attention to what they buy or worse, have the game auto-buy shit for them.
So what do the devs do?
Add a item tutorial?
Make it more obvious that you need to buy different items for different occasions?
Make an effort to help new players learn how to play their game?
<No they fucking cleave a humongous chunk off of his shield.
<The devs literally say in their devlog they're nerfing him because new players can't figure out they're supposed to buy the item that kills him.
The players are valve playtester tier braindead and the devs are just the chief tards. If you're looking for an alternative CRAPCUNTS to turn to, just keep looking.
65efab No.14835289
>>14832410
>I actually like Paladins
doesnt that shit literary spies on you to stop you cheating?
6de08b No.14835339
>>14832876
>>14830981
I BET if this guy sees red on ZntDM3 he'll say you need some kind of "ability to fly up like phara" to pick it up and then whine that the game is broken lmfao
7dcc8a No.14835385
>>14835339
Again you are confusing applied mechanical skill for complexity. How much you will do with an individual game element vs how many game elements there are.
45b5c8 No.14835416
>>14830904
>Stealth Overwatch thread isn't bumplocked
Mark you kike.
c6089f No.14835429
>>14835262
>retards whine and moan that Torvald is too hard to kill
96a8fd No.14835430
>>14834249
Correction: that hidden initial rating develops the second you start playing unranked. So, when you start playing standard matches, Blizz is checking your in game performance and using that to determine your approximate rank. Your placements are just a reflection of the performance of your unranked matches. Winning or losing all of them, or some combination of win/loss only changes the number slightly. The problem is that people who just bought the game will suck in unranked, or they want to try out new things and will inevitably not have great stats- naturally making them start really low.
Smurfs work because once you have a basic understanding of the game, it's easy to inflate your stats in unranked. Each hero in overwatch has their own way of artifically boosting stats (e.g. shoot shields/tanks constantly to boost your accuracy + damage in game), and you use that to your advantage to make the system think you deserve a high rank. You don't have to tell a player to do this because after some time they'll instinctively know these things. So if they smurf they'll have instant, positive results *and will tell others*.
It's worth noting that Dota works similarly (hidden unranked rating). But Valve at least fixed all the issues with that sort of system and made it work. Back in 2012/2013, they relied heavily on hero damage/hero healing (like ow) to calculate your rank, so what players (Russians) ended up doing was spamming two specific heroes to get high ranks. One could damage everyone on the map, the other would deal high damage which turns into a heal over time. They'd get high numbers and a high rank as a result but it was not a reflection of skill. They're using something more complex now to avoid things like that from repeating. Also, they now give you 2 separate ratings after placement- one for unranked, and one for ranked. Nothing's hidden after that and change purely based on win/loss. OW could copy the system easily, but that'd never happen.
To make ranked work properly, what they really should be doing is creating a hidden matchmaking pool for smurfs (they know your HWID- and they've done HWID bans before btw), change the weighting of performance and change Win/Loss numbers to a flat 20 or something. But they won't do that. Their current system makes too much money.
t. the anon you mentioned
5c0294 No.14835447
>>14834861
>I can't be bothered to pick a sniping or flying hero to kill the melee off-tank
smh
70f779 No.14836321
>>14834861
Why would you want a Lucio when Brigitte has a higher level of passive healing at oldLucios range without having to focus on heal/speed changing?
People seriously underestimate how broke Brig is and how consistently shit the plebs in balance team is. It truly is a wonnderous achievement that they continuously fuck everything up.
2 years and the months after launch is still the most balanced the game has been.
d3234c No.14839325
>>14835429
I'm not sure I understand.
aafb02 No.14839346
>>14830922
dota, tanks and cs are bleeding numbers
PUBG's comp scene is dying.
Fortnite announced one hundred million fucking dollars to be thrown into their league so who knows.
6c30d3 No.14839445
>>14839325
Paladins has an item buy system that can even out some play styles when an enemy hero is too strong, Torvald for example has very strong shields, there is an item in the game you can purchase to increase damage to shields, you are able to see the enemy team comp before the match starts so there is no excuse to not plan ahead what items to buy.
Still, players were complaining about Torvald's huge amount of shields and the devs decided to nerf him despite having the solution in-game because they see players being too stupid to not turn off "auto-buy" or able to figure out they should pay attention to enemy team comps to decide what to buy during the match.
d3234c No.14839471
>>14839445
I already knew that. I made the other post that anon quoted. That was the whole point of my post.
What I don't understand is what the image is about and why it was quoted. That's an OC image but I have no idea what Satya Nadella has to do with anything.
7dcc8a No.14839573
>>14835430
Any performance based rank in overwatch is based on your performance relative to other players at a similar rank playing the same hero. You can't just play something like Junkrat and get high rank because you did more damage than Widowmaker possibly could have. You have to do more damage than 95% of other Junkrat players in order to place in the top 5% of the ranking system (about mid-diamond). Even then, damage is far from the only thing that's going to be checked, the system still looks at things like kills, deaths, and of course, wins.
Even then, they don't go directly from QP stats. Early QP may influence your first comp placements, but by the time you are halfway through placements the system will be relying ENTIRELY on your comp stats
The real reason why Smurfs get high ranks more quickly is because they lack the history to weigh them down. Your performance-based SR is averaged with your ENTIRE performance history in comp mode in order to find your target MMR that the system pushes you towards. If your first three seasons were bad because you were still learning then you have three seasons worth of bad stats to hold you back when you actually get good. Start a smurf and those stats disappear, so you only have the new ones to worry about.
6c30d3 No.14839612
>>14839573
>the system still looks at things like kills, deaths, and of course, wins.
This is also true and very frustrating because it applies to healers as well.
7dcc8a No.14839661
>>14839612
Right but it would be comparing your kills as mercy to all other mercy players for example, and it would probably be putting a very low weight on those kills as compared to healing done. Unfortunately extensive testing shows that offensive/defensive assists are not weighted heavily.
6c30d3 No.14839741
>>14839661
The problem comes from the fact that healing in general is not weighted correctly either, that is, healing and resurrecting as a whole is the only value the SR system gives you, there is no separate thing like clutch heals and survivability which means you rank up slower as a healer than any other class which can get more kills, the same reason Mercy usually gets the short end of the stick for being completely unable to defend herself unless she stops healing, I think not even damage boosting gives her any more points.
ba2cf4 No.14839744
>>14833217
I still have my Warcraft 3, Diablo 1, Diablo 2, and Starcraft Brood Wars cds. That's how I'll always remember Blizzard.
000000 No.14839763
>>14831076
>plays online only shit
<wow why I was banned for no reason
serves you right online virgin, offline/LAN Chads never get banned and have fun with friends or alone without paying a dime
f753bf No.14839785
>>14832657
>>14834780
All these fucking years of seeing multiple video game licenses go to other toys companies.
>K'nex getting Mario/Mario Kart sets that are basically made of LEGO like pieces
>Two separate LEGO Idea pitches for Zelda declined
>Pokemon going to Mega Blocks
>A LEGO ideas pitch for Portal 2 that nearly got rejected because they thought it was violent FPS instead of a puzzle FPS which only got a set made for LEGO Dimensions
>LEGO Sonic also appearing in LEGO Dimensions
>Midway Classics in Dimensions
>The first fucking non-Dimension VG series they decided to finally make is Overwatch.
Either Blizzard is desperate for a bigger audience and lowered the license fee so that LEGO got a really good deal or LEGO really wants to branch out to a new unknown audience of possibly (older) OW/Blizzard fans.
92d0a5 No.14839914
hahahaha fuck you fags unreal will still be talked about long after overwatch is dead and buried
remember napali
f3f7be No.14839954
>>14831478
lol, you fence-sitting centrist fag
d831da No.14839967
People still care about overwatch?
230e6f No.14840042
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>14832657
Hasbro is probably desperate to offset the sinking ship Star Wars has become.
984e71 No.14840201
>>14839445
Which fucking sucks, prenerf torvald was incredibly fun
984e71 No.14840215
>>14835262
Agreed, he was the slow moving grandpa who wandered out of the nursing home and everyone kept yelling at to go home, but his hearing aids were off
and it was great, he was so much fun to be annoying as fuck with
On the subject of the devs shitting the bed, how about how jenos seems to be the most used healer right now because he does almost everything better than anyone else
Also that flanks still outdamage damage characters, have more mobility, and more self heals than even healers do on themselves
c77420 No.14840237
>>14830904
Overwatch was never good. It's basically just Quake Arena or Unreal Tournament for normalfags.
It clamed to have all these awesome characters with this deep story but without a campaign to help flesh out the characters and story, you're just left with a more complex way of bashing your action figures together. If you want to know what's going on in the game, you have to watch the animated shorts or read the comics and some people don't have time for that.
Don't get me started on the developers SJW faggotry.
76a028 No.14840243
Something about older women and twintails gets me.
beccb2 No.14840249
>>14840237
Maybe comparable to UT's assault maps. No fucking way you can compare it to Quake anything.
>>14840243
Cheating.
6c30d3 No.14840257
>>14840249
>>14840237
So, are abilities good or bad in all? I mean, is it better to have weapon loadouts and no cooldowns in general? of course, having resource management should be a thing (ie. limited ammo and pickups.)
1ffe5d No.14840333
>>14835430
Nature's prophet, zeus were the two heroes
NP with mek I believe, and Zeus was the global damage dealer.
Those were some ez games when they came around.
a92003 No.14840337
>>14840257
I hear this argument a lot but I never fail to see people talk about how cooldowns are not a resource. Cooldowns are a resource. If you don't use your cooldowns intelligently you will fail. Cooldowns are a resource.
af838b No.14840384
>>14840337
Resources can usually be replenished by the player's actions, whereas cooldowns require you to stick your thumb up your ass and wait until they're done.
a92003 No.14840411
>>14840384
You replenish those resources by not dying. That in and of itself is an act that is harder than you could imagine in a game as chaotic as OW. It could have been a great game if it wasn't whelmed by actual cucks.
af838b No.14840450
>>14840411
>not dying
>an act that is harder than you can imagine
Hiding for ten seconds isn't hard. It's also doesn't require the player to think or get into combat to replenish whatever they've lost.
>inb4 "You have to think about your cooldowns"
It doesn't mean jack shit if your thought process ends with "hold off until my ability comes of cooldown", because you're just going from being active/aggressive to being passive for a short period of time.
b21500 No.14840619
>mario party of shooters
lmao
One of my normalfag friends has been playing Overwatch for over two years. He watches the competitive events and has been trying to evangelize myself and our mutual friends. We've been getting him to play PUBG i know and that's helped him gain some outside perspective. Of course he's too much of a normalfag to have noticed the fanart drying up but I doubt he's failed to see the event views declining. He makes the 'Overwatch is arena FPS' argument when we call him a fag for liking a T-rated waifu simulator. So I'm gonna get him onto Quake, UT, or Xonotic to see if he can even bhop.
522e8a No.14840777
>>14830921
You forgot:
>They make changes to characters that no one asked for
>They make changes that no one asked for so frequently you have to play the game once a week or you'll fall behind
I played it for a bit since a blizzcuck friend bought for me for us to play together. But I had life stuff for like a month and when I came back nothing I liked about my favorite characters was still there. So I dropped it.
aafb02 No.14840799
Has Blizzard managed to not fuck up any esports they tried to force?
WoW: Dead
SC Remastered: Dead
SC2: Dead
HotS: Dead
OW: Dying
aafb02 No.14840808
>>14840799
Oh I guess hearthstone is doing okay
398d2b No.14840874
>>14840450
>Hiding for ten seconds isn't hard.
Its ten seconds death, my little noob camper. But you never came to concept of fighting for time in the respawn type games so you don't understand this.
4ad146 No.14840896
>>14839573
>You can't just play something like Junkrat and get high rank because you did more damage than Widowmaker possibly could have. You have to do more damage than 95% of other Junkrat players in order to place in the top 5% of the ranking system
You missed the point. An average player in OW can inflate their average stats on a new account (e.g. shield abuse) and get a high hidden MMR, since they're playing with new players and will naturally do better (map knowledge, picking, etc). The system will see you with 30 eliminations and think you're x percentile and deserve y MMR meanwhile you camped in one spot with widow with a medkit nearby while new kids were just running in straight lines.
Performance should never impact your rank when you start ranked, because we currently don't have the sort of technology or knowledge to differentiate skill and gamesense.
>Even then, they don't go directly from QP stats.
Your QP games create a hidden MMR. This hidden MMR is what is used to determine which bracket your placements will be in when you start ranked. Even if you stomp placements that is not going to change your rating significantly.
>The real reason why Smurfs get high ranks more quickly is because they lack the history to weigh them down.
Uncertainty isn't the reason smurfs work. It's the inflated averages you end up getting that make it work. Uncertainty is a contributing factor that affects the variety of opponents you play against and makes your MMR somewhat more fluid. The stats you get are what directly change that MMR- where it starts.
Stated another way, if you want to calibrate at a high division or the highest division possible, you need the high stats to go with it. Trying to use uncertainty when you screwed up your QP stats will bring you much smaller returns in comparison, and diminishes over time anyway.
>Your performance-based SR is averaged with your ENTIRE performance history in comp mode in order to find your target MMR that the system pushes you towards. Start a smurf and those stats disappear, so you only have the new ones to worry about.
This is the exact problem with Blizzard's rating system. The fact that there is a target MMR which the game pushes you towards, and the fact that their internal rating does not change. It's not uncommon for people to report they lose 35 points on a loss and gain 20 on a win. That's not going to help someone reach their true skill, because now there are two different ratings- a player's true skill and what Blizzard thinks is a player's true skill. The idea is that the more you play, the closer you get to your true rank. But because Blizzard weights your gains and losses so heavily, if you end up deserving a division above your current one, you will have a very hard time reaching it because of that weighting.
If you have to buy a second copy of the game just to make ranked work, that means the game itself is fundamentally broken. Period.
League of Legends has a hard reset every season and Dota has no such thing as a hidden rating once you play ranked, plus gives you flat values for win/loss (with extremely minor deviations). In both cases your past history does not weigh you down, so you can actually improve and get your true rank without needing to abandon anything. The blizzard system just exists to make money.
>>14840333
Zeus yeah, though I was referring to Oracle instead of NP, but both work. Those were good times.
d3234c No.14840949
>>14840215
I haven't played the shit for almost a year. Last hero I saw added was Ash I think. I briefly tried Zhin out in the testing room when they added him, but I had already stopped playing by then.
Seris was bad enough as it is being able to out DPS most heroes while still maintaining twice the healing as the next best healer without even trying. I stopped playing after getting fed up with the retarded balancing the devs did. Some heroes were just broken overpowered while others struggled to stay relevant. Tyra and her firebomb really set me off.
>Hurl an incendiary device that leaves a pool of fire for 6s. Enemies that contact the fire will burn for 9% of their maximum health over 0.6s and have their healing reduced by 50%. Continued Contact refreshes this effect.
So let's just break that down:
<It's got fucking % health damage so it fucks tanks extra hard
<It deals true damage so it's going to fuck you no matter what.
<It's area of effect is fucking massive so even if you gun it for the outside of the pool it's still going to take maybe 30% of your health along the way guaranteed
<It ticks rapidly so even jumping around will still be painful.
<It reduces healing by a huge amount so you can't just out heal it.
<Lasts an obnoxiously long time, enough to kill the momentum of any serious push.
<18 second cooldown and even less with cards.
How the fuck is that balanced? The brainlet community of course tried to justify it by saying "just jump" or "just run outside of the circle" completely missing the point of the skill. It's a leave-or-die area denial that you can have active 1/3rd of the time. Just throw it on the objective and the enemy team has to decide whether they want to bail and lose the push, or die and lose the push anyways. That shit can tick 11 times which means it can deal 99% of your health if you tried to stay on the objective. It made objective games against a good enemy Tyra impossible.
I just looked back at it and I see that they haven't changed a thing about it either. Still just as broken as ever, only now they added another legendary card so her firebomb does even more damage and cripples too. What a fucking bad joke.
>Also that flanks still outdamage damage characters, have more mobility, and more self heals than even healers do on themselves
That's something that must have changed from when I played. When I was still active, the only good flank was Lex, the others were garbage. Lex is another great example of shit being broken overpowered:
>Lets make a character that gets more money than everyone else just for killing dudes
>Also lets throw a built in wallhack on him
>And an aimbot too
>And make his attacks do enough damage to two-shot most people and give him so little range falloff that he can do it from across the map.
>Let also top it all off with his ultimate which can just be an "I win" button, vaporizing anyone that you've hit at least once.
10/10 design right there.
Otherwise my friend would wreak havoc with Buck, but that was because he was so universally considered the worst hero in the game at the time that it game him a pseudo invisibility effect. People would flat out ignore him because they thought he was harmless which let him do what ever the fuck he wanted.
6c30d3 No.14841322
>>14840949
Vivian killed it for me, her ultimate didn't expire.
8deccb No.14846899
>>14830911
>meeting girls.
>Not Mario Kart
Blowing insurance money on useless shit again, Silverstein?
5fe09a No.14846961
Fun fact- when you open battlenet, Blizzard is kindly reminding you that they store and read ALL of your chat messages. Some unfortunate mangina soyboy has to shift through endless logs of ERPs to look for the bad words
beccb2 No.14846983
>>14846961
It'll be a computer doing it for the most part, with reporting filling in the gaps. I've personally got nothing against more strict communities but with this game there's no other option because there's no such thing as a private server.
a297e3 No.14846992
>>14831701
>OW's hype was created by marketing.
I can comfirm this, 3 years ago before the game was released, some pahjeet tried to convince me to work for his division that was in charge of "blue posting" (their word for Shilling) Overwatch on forums and imageboards on the internet.
turned down the job since I had the feeling it's one of those jobe where you're paid by the post and not by the hour, and I fucking hate pahjeets.
he was also rally trying in real life to shill for Overwatch by saying how it was different than other FPS games on the market.
280ab4 No.14846998
It's because Overwatch is shit. Good fucking riddance. Die die die.
8deccb No.14852715
>>14830904
If they keep acting like liberal dipshits, then yes.
92aa0b No.14853582
>>14852715
>That feeling when someone saved your OC.