/v/ - Video Games

that was fucking quick

>>14830512

2013 was 5 years ago anon

>five years

>Bloodborne

<God of War

<Horizon Zero Dawn

<still no Death Stranding

<cancelled Silent Hills

<new generic zombie game Days Gone

<still no word on Ghost of Tsushima

<multiplats out the ass, everything from EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Bethsda, etc

Sony always wins, baby™

>>14830513

Bloodborne came out in March of 2015 though, start from there.

>>14830517

>>14830517

To add, at least the silver lining is that everyone including Japanese devs are starting to multiplat to PC, so you're not missing out on much except for a few key titles like Bloodborne. Doubt ps4 emulation will happen until the ps7 or whatever shit is out by then. As much as people like to shit in Nintendo, at least they learned their lesson and are making more interesting exclusives with the switch after the shitshow Wii u was. Still waiting for the golden homebrew on the switch before I buy though, because fuck paying for games nowadays.

>direct linking niche gamer

generation will be over in about 2 years probably

>Bloodborne

>5(?) Yakuza games

>Gravity Rush 2

>The Last Guardian

>Purseowner 5

>

anything else?

>>14830538

Half of what you listed was also on the ps3 also

>Yakuza 6

>Last Guardian

>Any good

Fuck off

>>14830538

Isn't Persona 5 exclusive? Monster Hunter World? People seem to like these games, so you can add them to the pile I guess.

>>14830530

Wii U had better exclusives than the switch

>>14830545

Persona 5 was on the ps3

Mhw was shit

>>14830538

I thought gr2 was thought to be a bad game.

F

>>14830546

>5 year old console has better exclusives than an 1 year old console

No shit Sherlock, but even then they ported a few of the Wii u exclusives and the upcoming switch games are a lot more interesting than what you can find on the Wii U. It's not going to be another Wii u situation where they just gave up after 4 years, they're dedicated to pumping out games for it, and will easily overpass the Wii u abysmal library.

>>14830558

only by a single shill trying to push a narrative that it's not one of the best games this gen

>>14830503

That's pretty fucking incredible to have an entire console generation of literally nothing. I remember when I was foolish enough to be excited for the PS4. Doesn't feel that long ago.

>>14830567

>>14830573

I remember people being dissapointed with it.

>>14830579

It's not a masterpiece, some of the missions are a little weak. it's the best game of its kind.

>>14830503

Good.

Whenever Soyny prosper, everyone loses.

Always archive. Never give views:

https://archive.is/UApf6

>>14830525

This.

and even before: as soon as DLC was tolerated, consoles were not worth any money anymore.

>>14830566

With the Wii U though Nintendo had to put in "some" effort to keep it going, it died completely when they released shit after shit for it probably because they thought Amiibos could keep it afloat 2015, with the switch they found soy gold and don't have to put effort, and other than odessy, didn't

>>14830525

This

>>14830573

Except Last Guardian was a mess and a non game

>>14830587

>Except Last Guardian was a mess and a non game

nah, it's an experimental game but it's not for everyone.

>>14830590

>experimental game

Like gone home?

>>14830530

The Switch is selling because of a novelty concept that has been done before. Switch just perfected and streamlined docked portable gaming. Not console warring, but it's true docked mobile devices were a thing before Switch. Example is Motorola Atrix was a phone you could plug into a dock hooked in your TV and use bluetooth keyboard and mouse. It failed miserably because docked mode didn't work with half the apps. And it had shitty hardware and old Android OS.

The PS4 is a wall garden PC with no physical way to update it's hardware. And sadly game console models don't want you to update pieces of hardware. They want you to upgrade whole system. Except now hardware upgrades are as retarded as the iPhone with diminishing returns on evolving hardware. Then game consoles tried to instead evolve through software with operating systems and they stopped being consoles. They became wall garden PCs.

The next big push for consoles will most likely be cloud streaming and games as a service subscriptions.

>>14830595

no, games have had environmental story telling for decades.

>>14830503

Mother Fucker and I was waiting 5 years for it to go down in price. What a heartbreaker man.

>>14830596

Or fuck even the psp

>>14830598

They had gameplay though

>>14830603

you can get them for like 150 now what are you talking about

>>14830605

removing the game play just makes it not a game, a virtual tour. museums could tell a story through their environment but you'd never consider a virtual tour of one a game unless there's a game built into it.

The last guardian is a game and you can't use that argument until you know what it really means.

>>14830606

$450 from where I live. $350 for the original version.

>>14830610

Except its a walking sim where you walk your pet dog until he dies

>>14830611

Hey kiwi how's it going

>>14830616

I'm from cali

>>14830612

no you fucking idiot, it's a mix of stealth, puzzling, platforming and wraps itself up with an AI that shifts in behavior over time. kill yourself.

>>14830611

I can't speak for third world countries but I'm seeing plenty for like 140-180.

>>14830619

Weird, my brother got his ps4 for $250 Australian, look second hand

>>14830622

>he believes PR

Kek

So it will take the title of Bloodborne box to the grave and is in the running with the Pii U for best of the gen due to it also having one game. What a gen.

>>14830558

It's alright I liked it, but it's very niche and not for everyone. You can try out the first game very easily if you have a Vita because of piracy and the second game is pretty much a general improvement over the first but overall it is a little more inconsistent with its highs and lows, so if you liked 1 then you'll probably like 2, but if you don't then the game is not for you. The fact that it's stuck on the PS4 though is a huge blow to it though. No game is worth getting a useless console for. You're better off waiting for either piracy or a PC port if you want to play the game, unless you can miraculously find a PS4 for <50-100$ it's not worth it in my opinion.

>>14830525

THIS.

>>14830631

I still stand by the statement that the vita won gen 8 with the 3ds in 2nd

>>14830627

They're going to have to do a new gen as all the kiddos growing up right now don't know how to use anything other than a touchscreen.

>>14830627

>from ps2 to ps3

Big ass backlog or south american?

>>14830623

>I'd expect the next console generations to be multifunction mini-PCs that let you watch Netflix, porn, Facebook, integrate with your smart home, watch sportsball, and, yes, even play vidya. But with vidya becoming marginalized in favor of those other functions.

that's literally what the xbone is already.

>>14830623

The free to plays have thrown a real curve ball to the consoles. The price of multiplayer for consoles didn't help either. We are probably going to be seeing a continuous hardware battle between Sony and M$, but they might be battling over a smaller pie and will continue to milk those still with them in new and different ways. It did not help that the Xbone shit the bed before it even hit the store shelves, giving the PS4 the easy choice for console gamers.

>>14830605

I think with PSP you still had to hold the PSP to play. But that's an example. And with laptops you can plug in an HDMI cable, AC adapter, and bluetooth input and you're set. It was a bit clubky but doable.

We'll see more gaming tablets try to compete with the Switch in the future. It's less about hardware and more about software optimization.

Oh who am I kidding? Modern games are outsorced Pajeet spaghetti code nowdays.

>>14830644

people already made that prediction about the 7th gen, the 8th gen, and it turned out it wasn't really true for any of them. Much like this generation being the "last generation" and how smart phones will kill consoles.

>>14830643

>>14830653

Wasn't there a way to play some vita games with a ps3 controler

>bloodborne

>Yakuza

>Gundam Breaker 3

>巨影都市

>SRW

Barely had anything.

>>14830643

Huge backlog combined with real life stuff getting in the way. Now I have a huge library of PS3 games to play before I move on to the PS4, if I do that, a lot of PS4 games seem to be re-releases of PS3 titles.

>>14830503

>KH3 has been released yet.

>PS4 is being discontinued.

So what happen to all those smartasses that said buying a Sony console early will incentivize devs to support the console and guaranteeing a big library of games?

>>14830654

Watch as it just becomes like the iPhone and its slight yearly hardware ulgrafes

>>14830661

this was experimented with and it was determined people look at consoles very differently from phones. Is all your information wrong/out of date?

>>14830660

they're all $0.02 richer for each shill post they made.

>>14830659

>a lot of PS4 games seem to be re-releases of PS3 titles

Yeah. Nothing to really look forward to. By the time you get there PS4 emulation will probably be ready to go or the console itself will be dirt cheap.

Even the PS3 lasted longer than this, damn.

>>14830655

You're thinking of PS TV, which is a vita in a box. I'd rather have a vita.

>>14830671

the 7th gen as a whole was thought to be way too long, especially at the time.

>>14830668

>Google

>>14830674

>>14830668

>Goggle makes a game console.

And they're behind the biggest information bubbles in the world with a platform full of garbageware. Not to mention their botnet moderation they'll use to censor your wrongthink from real life interaction.

>>14830674

Every big tech company will (and probably already is) try(ing) to do this. Not defending Google, just don't trust anyone.

>>14830673

I worked with some devs that had come from the 7th gen and the leftovers they were still using were crazy in how aggressively optimized they were. A lot of it was dogshit as correctness had long since gone out the window, like "encryption" algorithms they'd literally pulled from unpublished '90s papers specifically to get a block size small enough to optimally use various hardware caches. That gen went on many years longer than it should have and was putting a tremendous strain on programmers to make something look better than what came before.

>>14830673

The 7th gen was too fucking long.

And I was considering getting a PS4.

>>14830680

Near the end they're talking about profiling people and predicting societal changes, how anybody can still use Google is beyond me.

>>14830503

>I would like to think all PS4 discs will work in the PS5, PS5 PRO, and PS5 Ultra

Doubtful. The PS4 isn't backwards compatible with PS3 or PS2 discs, let alone PS1 games of any medium (which is odd when every prior system could handle PS1 games, be it physically on the consoles of as digital eboots for the handhelds; PS4 doesn't even have a PS1 section on its storefront). Combine with the apparent sentiment Sony's stated before about "who actually wants to play older games to begin with?" and I'd wager backwards compatibility, at least as far as not selling you games you've already owned before, is over for them.

>>14830619

>Commiefornian

I live a state away and you can find the original 500gb for like $180 with a little luck.

>>14830690

>to make something look better than what came before.

they did a pretty good job imo. bioshock infinite is a trash game but it's undeniably a world apart from anything released on the systems in 2006, in 2008 and in 2010.

truly the most pathetic gen

Wii U actually died

nogames 2: this time it's not just a joke edition

and the XBONE

>>14830706

Sony patented a backwards compatibility thing but there's not much more info out there. AMD has been in talks with Sony and MS for next gen hardware since Ryzen was a massive success, and BC from Jaguar to Ryzen gen 1/2 is hardly a stretch.

>>14830702

Is online that important? I didn't miss it when I played bloodborne and outside of fighting games I can't think of anything important enough to warrant online, let alone paying a second time to fucking use it.

>>14830705

It's fantastic redpill material for tech illiterate normalfags.

>>14830718

with you on the online shit. Everywhere you go its niggers, chinks, spics, or 12 year old kids. Not even interested in it when its free.

Next generation: More of the same, or some kind of mix between the Switch and Oculus Go?

>>14830680

>They copy mgs2 right down to information being similar to genetics

I didn't need a real ai to determine what I should and should not see on the internet.

Mother fucker.

Last time I fall for the console meme.

Staying with PC now and forever.

Gonna pirate it all, and wait for that sweet crash.

>>14830728

At some point, it has to go back to games. The Silent Hill IP should be bought and respected, but will not likely in favor of the amount of eyes on battle royales and skins and games released in chapters (little effort vs size of reward)

>>14830725

They do that constantly now. Like with Monster Hunter World. It'll be something else this e3.

>>14830705

>>14830687

>>14830731

I also find it deeply unsettling how the background music and voice are designed to relax you and lower your guard, making you possibly more susceptible to view that shit as a positive thing.

>>14830721

Right, even if it were free it still wouldn't be worth it. If only this force match-making bullshit weren't so prevalant.

>>14830757

>technological leap in mediocrity

But anon, we already saw that.

It's called smartphones

Given that everything always gets worse, I suspect we will look back at this shitty generation wistfully and go at least PS4 had one game.

I wonder what horrors await us.

>>14830756

I've been happy with local multiplayer however. Last night I was playing Touhou Kobuto V Burst Battle with a friend and it's pretty much Virtual On.

>>14830767

It does happen pretty easily, think about how many times something like youtube changed its layout. You eventually get used to the changes. Same with every piece of software you use frequently. The initial change is a shock but as you figure it out, you adapt to it. Now imagine intentionally having things changed so you universally associate the top right of whatever software you use with something bad.

>>14830773

Nah, every venture into that field outside of video streaming or data storage has been a flop. They already try it on the PS4 and PS3 with psnow and nobody gives a fuck about it.

>>14830777

Trips confirmed

>during the incident where Israel tried to start WW3

What one, there have been dozens of them since '47

so the ps4 is near EOL and it was never more than an entry level PC with a handful of exclusives?

>>14830776

All they need to do is have a back-door agreement for a shift, anon. Prove it's lucrative and show you're gonna do it, then your competitor follows in turn.

>>14830769

>local multiplayer

I forgot all about that. Too bad I don't have any friends though.

>>14830786

> Prove it's lucrative

they tried and it turns out it wasn't where have you been?

>>14830788

Sorry. At the end of the day I can always have more fun playing my saturn, PS2, Wii, or original xbox than experimenting with some new games local multiplayer. Discovering something new on these old systems or playing an old favorite, or even the classic pass at every death is always a good time.

>>14830785

Same with the 360 tbh I'd say the PS3 as well but it's hardware was a tad funky

>>14830767

We're going to end up in a world like the Beatless anime minus the robowaifus.

>>14830590

It is shit.

"Muh experimental" soyboy speech.

The game is shit.

Soyny knew that. They did not wanted to release it, but soyboys kept asking for it.

Now that it is clear that the "game" is shit, soyboys are trying to come up with excuses to defend it.

The Last Guardian is shit.

>>14830794

Why do you you hit enter after every sentence?

>>14830533

Elaborate. Brandon has done some retarded shit now and again, but I've seen little reason to scorn direct linking them.

>>14830795

because he's a gay, but he's still right, the last guardian isn't a game

>>14830573

>>if it's not a masterpiece it's a bad game

Glad you understand.

>>14830503

good riddance. same for xbox. fucking normalfags will buy the next piece of shit box though.

>>14830525

>charging people for the online.

I keep forgetting that this is even a thing

>>14830801

sure it is, if a game having puzzles, stealth and platforming makes it not a game you've got to substantiate it.

>>14830797

censorship

>>14830814

Except it doesn't, a game needs failure states, you're just listing PR faggery

God damn. The PSBone generation is going to end without anything really new or interesting. The PS2 gen had tons of great games, the PS3 generation had its highs like Dragon's Dogma or Metal Gear Rising, but the PS4 gen? I'm going to remember both my PS4 and Vita as Phantasy Star Online 2 players. I own less games for both of them combined than I do for my PS3. It feels like this is a direct result of the modern 6-10+ year long development cycle. With dev cycles so ludicrous, we're going to have entire gens that get nothing, like this one. Glad I never paid for online multiplayer.

>>14830825

you can die in the last guardian, you're just spewing buzz words.

>>14830829

You're the one reading the PR approved list of buzzwords though I'm just having fun

>>14830831

I thought you were just regurgitating disinfo, but whatever have fun

>>14830837

bullshit, you've been raising your wifes dinosaur.

>>14830835

Why not both

>>14830837

Basically the same, I only play Pokemon Showdown occasionally to annoy people who take is seriously

>>14830838

Kek

>>14830814

All I can recall is one time on a mecha game article he was caught copy pasting from another site. One of the typos from the other site was exactly duplicated. Someone pointed this out, the article corrected without any disclaimer, and the comment deleted. A few people noticed this and had their comments deleted as well, but then Brandon stopped giving a fuck and deleted no further comments pointing this out. Disqus doesn't actually delete comments though, it merely prevents them from loading. If you stop the page from loading midway, you can see all the deleted comments. Unfortunately, such a thing cannot be archived, so the only way to prove it is to link the article and have others test it out themselves. Brandon went full retard here, and I can see this as a valid reason to refuse them any clicks. But I also consider the possiblity it may not have actually been Brandon doing the deleting. There is at least one person who keeps fucking shit up at Nichegamer that nobody likes, though I can't recall his name or whether or not he's been axed for being a retard yet.

Is there anything involving censorship other than this?

>>14830776

>has been

Bandwidth and Internet speed will only increase with time. Streaming would actually be cool for demoing games without downloading them, but

>companies releasing demos

>in 2018+

>>14830847

I didn't know about this one, but that's pretty interesting. I'm talking about them changing forum policy and banning people for noticing patterns or saying certainn no-no words.

>>14830851

I think EA does streaming demos with origin.

>>14830852

Could of just said the first one this year

5 years and no good games. How is that possible? Modern consoles were a mistake!

>>14830761

Sadly Nintendo is doing freemium Mario Kart now.

>>14830777

Tay is love, Tay is life. Long live Tay. May she rest in Lain's embrace.

>>14830793

Thought about writing a Sci-Fi scenario congress will enact the Bladerunner Act to ban replicants. Reason is similar to drug wars and FOSTA. The shadow government, aka the "glow in the darks", profits from human trafficking like the LA gang wars. With how easily you can program, repair, mod, and destroy your replicants, if legal replicants will overtake the market and drive down the demand for human trafficking (and the black-mail hold the shadow gov't has on key politicians). Therefore the ban is necessary to discourage companies from developing "counterfeit slaves" from contaminating the market. Even China has a replicant ban.

>>14830854

>I'm talking about them changing forum policy and banning people for noticing patterns or saying certainn no-no words.

They changed that back a few months ago by going, "Fuck it, go nuts, we're not going to police what you say."

>>14830851

>>companies releasing demos

>>in 2018+

>Yakuza 6

>Disgaea something

>New Fist of The North Star Game

>Senran Kagura Burst Renewal

>God Eater 3

>>14830854

>didn't know about this one, but that's pretty interesting. I'm talking about them changing forum policy and banning people for noticing patterns or saying certainn no-no words.

I remember that raising a big stink. Last I checked though, Brandon went back on that after backlash from the community. You can say nigger all you want. Only the most chronic of shitposters are banned.

>>14830862

Jews

>>14830680

this is pants on head fucking retarded. not only from the far-reaching implication standpoint where we manipulate people and muh cyberpunk but how the fuck are you gonna predict whether im going to watch trap porn or pawg porn and why would it matter

"try pawg trap porn" oh wow i've been targeted

>>14830867

>Yakuza 6

>Disgaea something

>Senran Kagura Burst Renewal

>God Eater 3

Imagine having this lever of shit taste

>>14830872

>why would it matter

<Why would analyzing and observing every single little action and pattern of every single person, so that an almost completely accurate prediction model can be made for just about every possible scenario, matter?

>>14830879

The goal isn't to predict human behavior, but to make human behavior predictable.

>>14830674

>>14830680

It's a blatant mass manipulation device.

>>14830876

>Yakuza

>shit taste

Get out of here.

Please no. I dont want to buy a ps5 for Bloodborne 2.

I just grabbed a Pro for piracy. Apparently The Last Guardian came out in 2016. Wew.

>>14830872

>how the fuck are you gonna predict whether im going to watch trap porn or pawg porn and why would it matter

Did you miss the part in the video where it said it was going to also change YOUR behavior, not just it's own? It's going to detect what porn you watch, and suggest alternatives. Alternatives that you aren't interested in, but Google wants you to be interested in. Keep in mind how strongly Google is pushing diversity and alternative sexuality.

Well… Gotta be up in three and a half hours. Just tell me when computers are at a point I can emulate PS4 games with replicant android women. Quantum analog and digital computing and all.

>>14830876

>shit taste

Imagine being this illiterate. Anon claimed companies don't release demos in 2018+. This year [CURRENT YEAR] has actually had a resurgence in demos.

>>14830890

Yakuza is great, Yakuza 6 is shit

>>14830902

Still Nigger

I can clearly remember there was an interview or an announcement of sorts saying that the PS4 would have a 10 year lifespan. Am I retarded or did that really happen? Can anyone else remember it?

>>14830792

Sure, I can top that: My last console purchase was 17 years ago.

>>14830912

PS4 is barely reaching 5 years and its struggling to run shit now.

>>14830915

Do you still have that PS2

Serious question - "PC master race" gamers are quick to spout

>muh fps

>muh graphics

when in reality, unless you shell out north of $1500 for a high-end gaming PC you won't be getting much better performance than any modern console. They claim console's are DRM while having all of their gaming library on Steam, a company shown to be far more malicious and damaging to gaming than most others. I can't understand the justification here at all, even if we ignore the fact that graphics have 0 effect on gameplay and the fun of the game.

>>14830923

Yeah that's not the point, I'm saying that there were interviews and claims around release time that it would last a decade. I imagine VR put the development of a new one on the fast track.

>>14830912

that was the ps3

>>14830908

And your reasoning is?

Hope it ends quick so i can safely use homebrew on it without getting banned.

>>14830944

Is that they're shit games

>>14830623

>not betting on steam machines being the next generation

YEAR OF THE LINUX DESKTOP!!!!

>>14830948

When did I say they weren't?

>>14830937

The best thing about PC is that it can run pirated games from all consoles AND PC, in due time.

Piracy always find a way.

Always wait for piracy.

>>14830926

I do, but unfortunately at this point it has intermittent disk read errors. The DS2 is still good as new though, which is more than I can say for either of my DC controllers which both developed stick drift within a fucking MONTH back in 99.

>>14830955

Sorry but I'm not a nigger and I have self-control. Meaning that if I don't want to support something I just don't play it, and if I do want to support it I'll buy it.

>>14830954

Well now we're at an agreement

>>14830956

DS2s are the best controllers ever made to be quite honest

>>14830959

>piracy means no self control

Yea those pirates who wait months for games to get cracked sure are impatient.

Yea those pirates who wait weeks for an HD copy of a movie to release via torrent sure are impatient.

I've never called anybody a kike lover. But that's exactly what you are, you good goyim you.

>>14830979

When I say self-control I mean "I don't have to watch and play every shiny thing that comes out". If something has Denuvo, I don't play it, that's the end of it, no matter if it's pirated or not. It's called having integrity.

>ending the gen before it even started or otherwise had anything noteworthy added to its arsenel

oh well, ps5 will be shit so who cares

>>14830907

it's not though

>>14830968

Agreed, I picked up a DS4 as a PC gamepad, and the build quality between the two is night and day. I think you could cave someone's skull in with the DS2 before you'd break it, while the DS4 feels pretty creaky and thin. I'll probably end up getting a bliss box so I can use all of my old proper gamepads.

>>14830959

Interesting. Do you just not play old games at all? The majority of games in existence are unfortunately no longer being sold by the original rightsholders.

>>14831006

Prove it. :^)

>>14830959

You can pirate things you want to play too, nigger. The meme spacing faggot's point is that you can play nearly anything for free on PC.

>>14830912

>>14830940

It was the PS4.

Soyny actively lied to their consumer base and must be sued for that.

>>14830959

That means that you are a soyboy cuck that sucks corporate cock.

Piracy is always the better option.

"Muh if you don't like don't play it."

I like to PLAY the games.

Not paying for them.

Always pirate.

Never buy.

>>14830977

All made by corporate shills and redditors.

>>14830992

Integrity can go fuck itself when dealing with a industry that declared their customers to be their enemies.

Get everything from them without giving anything back.

>>14830977

It wasn't. There is just a dedicated group of powerfully autistic faggots who can't seem to keep their malfunctioning social index in check. World is fantastic and the only things it suffers from are some questionable campsite changes and a lack of monsters and maps. 33 as of this post. The low map count is sad too, but the maps are also huge as fuck, like 2.5 times as large as a normal map, some even have different biomes, like caves and tree tops and shit.

>>14830912

Yep. This article is memory-holed, the real url redirects to an unrelated article on a different website.

https://web.archive.org/web/20131013072625/http://www.computerandvideogames.com:80/413102/interviews/the-ps4-interview-shuhei-yoshida/

>>14830992

How do you help a scummy company if you don't pay for their product? There aren't many games with Denuvo that interest me, most of them are AAA trash.

>>14831033

>Get everything from them without giving anything back.

The point the other guy made is that flavor of the month AAAy garbage is not worth the the time of anyone with taste. And it's true, pirating and discussing this games increases their diffusion. Look at how most flops were games that no one knew when they came out.

Do whatever you want with good games, and let die the bad ones.

I could see them making a new system that emulates PS1-3 games and just natively plays PS4 games because the entire industry is just x86 now anyway. Lots of potential there, but they would first need to get over their love of selling you games you already own.

>>14831023

Yeah but that's not a selling point for me because I don't give a crap about free shit.

>>14831033

>t. nigger

>>14831061

>How do you help a scummy company if you don't pay for their product? There aren't many games with Denuvo that interest me, most of them are AAA trash.

You know all of those statistics where they say "50% of this game was pirated". How do you think they know this? Most games today have analytics inside of them and just because a crack bypasses the DRM it doesn't bypass this telemetry so you still add to the play-count of the game. Then on the next pitching session that same developer goes "hey look we had 10 million players, so there is a demand we just need to beef up the DRM so these 5 million freeloaders have to pay".

As >>14831090 said too, discussing and playing shit puts it in the spotlight where it makes money. You might not have paid for a game, but you played it, watched some youtube videos of it, talked about it on a forum etc. all of which boosted it up on google trends or whatever and ultimately boosted its sales.

>>14830992

>I have integrity

He says whilst acting like a faggot on 8chan

I'm sorry you're just too stupid to pirate.

>>14831090

>The point the other guy made is that flavor of the month AAAy garbage is not worth the the time of anyone with taste

But if you take piracy off the table, all you have are the handful of older titles on gog/steam, and new garbage. I think it's obvious that that anon only plays brand new vidya, which is why he dodged my earlier post.

>>14831111

>You know all of those statistics where they say "50% of this game was pirated"

Of course.

>How do you think they know this?

Pulling freely available information from public trackers and then extrapolating from there with a bunch of made up numbers to explain to their shareholders why their AAA steamer flopped.

>Most games today have analytics inside of them and just because a crack bypasses the DRM it doesn't bypass this telemetry so you still add to the play-count of the game

That is an incredibly huge accusation, and you'll have to back that up with some proof.

>>14831111

>Yeah but that's not a selling point for me because I don't give a crap about free shit

>"If I don't want free shit nobody else does either"

>>14831125

I like the jewish look.

>>14830955

How is the emulator for the first xbox working? Isn't it shit?

>>14831133

>That is an incredibly huge accusation, and you'll have to back that up with some proof.

Sure thing double-dubs-senpai.

https://archive.is/20140323165339/http://www.please use archive.is/blogs/JonathanDankoff/20140320/213624/Game_Telemetry_with_DNA_Tracking_on_Assassins_Creed.php#selection-1557.0-1557.182

https://unity3d.com/learn/tutorials/topics/analytics/introduction-unity-analytics?playlist=17123

https://gameanalytics.com/blog/what-is-game-telemetry.html

Archive doesn't work for some reason on the above.

https://archive.is/ZaRZr#selection-1187.0-1191.123

>Game analytics really started gaining momentum around 2009. At Bioware, Georg Zoeller built a system for collecting game telemetry during development. He presented the system at GDC 2010. Shortly after, Electronic Arts started collecting data from games post development, to track player behavior in the wild.

https://archive.is/bZxb7#selection-1993.18-1993.431

>Pagulayan's team quickly went to work building tools for extracting gameplay data, including the location of each player and when and where they fired weapons, rode vehicles, killed aliens, and died. They ran weekly tests, analyzing 2,300 hours of play by 400 gamers in under two months. Over and over again, they found snags — a mutant alien that was far too powerful, a lava pit that too many players fell into.

This article is infuriating for many more reasons

>>14831170

>t. nigger and / or commiefag

>>14831202

>https://archive.is/20140323165339/http://www.please use archive.is/blogs/JonathanDankoff/20140320/213624/Game_Telemetry_with_DNA_Tracking_on_Assassins_Creed.php#selection-1557.0-1557.182

Fucking wordfilter: https://archive.is/J113i

>At Ubisoft, we have a set of tools called DNA which use tracking data from multiple sources in order to allow us to examine telemetric data of how players are experiencing our games. We are able to track players in both production, and in post-launch.

>>14831202

Anon I just clicked through every single one of your links and ctrl+f'd piracy. Can you guess how many hits I got across the board? Zero. But you made the specific claim that

>Most games today have analytics inside of them and just because a crack bypasses the DRM it doesn't bypass this telemetry

But you didn't give us a single example that cites that. All you showed us is that buyfags are getting datamined to hell and back.

Being a a principled buyfag that supports the developers where possible, and someone who pirates when that's not an option are not mutually exclusive concepts.

>>14831231

Are you retarded? I just gave you half a dozen links with examples of huge games having datamining built into them. Do you think that datamining is removed when you crack the game? It's code completely irrelevant from the piracy check and it permeates the entire codebase since there are dozens of events that are being sent back to the server, it's impossible to remove. You're being tracked whether you pirate or not, don't be an idiot.

>>14831243

You keep making that claim, but you haven't provided one lick of evidence that proves that this datamining is active on the majority of games released today once cracked. What's interesting is that instead of presenting this hard evidence, you're clearly growing more and more agitated. This tells me that you know you're unable to substantiate your claims, and after I pressed you for proof, all you could come up with was googling "games with telemetry" and posting a bunch of articles that didn't mention piracy and didn't actually support your original claim.

>>14830606

>>14830622

Where are you seeing them for 150$?

>>14831264

I ve seen the original fat ps4 500gb going for 180-200 at craigslist and flea markets around my city

>>14831259

It's hard not to get agitated by morons with a narcissistic disorder. Let me try to explain it to you again:

https://archive.is/J113i

>At Ubisoft, we have a set of tools called DNA which use tracking data from multiple sources in order to allow us to examine telemetric data of how players are experiencing our games. We are able to track players in both production, and in post-launch.

Translation: Ubisoft HAS telemetry tools and it uses them in Assassin's Creed. It's stupid to assume they don't put it in everywhere they can.

https://archive.is/bZxb7#selection-1993.18-1993.431

>Pagulayan's team quickly went to work building tools for extracting gameplay data, including the location of each player and when and where they fired weapons, rode vehicles, killed aliens, and died. They ran weekly tests, analyzing 2,300 hours of play by 400 gamers in under two months. Over and over again, they found snags — a mutant alien that was far too powerful, a lava pit that too many players fell into.

Translation: Bungie added telemetry to Halo 2 to improve Halo 3. What makes you think it's the only time they did it?

https://archive.is/ZaRZr#selection-1187.0-1191.123

>Game analytics really started gaining momentum around 2009. At Bioware, Georg Zoeller built a system for collecting game telemetry during development. He presented the system at GDC 2010. Shortly after, Electronic Arts started collecting data from games post development, to track player behavior in the wild.

>Shortly after, Electronic Arts started collecting data from games post development, to track player behavior in the wild.

>Electronic Arts started collecting data from games post development

>games post development

If you think piracy removes telemetry then you have no idea how programming or cracking DRM works so let me reiterate: Cracking the game does not remove telemetry.

>>14830937

>muh graphics

on reddit maybe

>unless you shell out north of $1500 for a high-end gaming PC you won't be getting much better performance than any modern console.

You can upgrade parts of your PC if you're bottlenecked, which often balances out or used to, before buttcoin mining

>They claim console's are DRM while having all of their gaming library on Steam, a company shown to be far more malicious and damaging to gaming than most others.

You can easily bypass steam's in-house DRM, and GOG exists.

>I can't understand the justification here at all, even if we ignore the fact that graphics have 0 effect on gameplay and the fun of the game.

FPS and good frametimes do.

>>14831304

>FPS and good frametimes do.

If you care about e-sports maybe.

>>14831300

>still zero mentions of piracy

Anon please. I'll give you one more chance to try and google up some proof, but so far all you've done is embarrass yourself and you're beginning to bore me.

>>14831315

>Talking about apples

>Yeah but what about them oranges

What the fuck are you even talking about? Telemetry has nothing to do with piracy and you don't remove telemetry when you pirate, what part confuses you?

>>14830937

Congratulations, you've discovered that people will insist their favored brand of X is much better than Y even if they're much the same, but it's better because THEY use it. People get defensive about what they prefer to use, and a lot of people struggle to admit what they prefer has faults. This isn't limited to videogames either: it's everywhere.

>>14831202

Another reason to play games in a disconnected/firewalled VM.

>>14831313

Playing games with a moving camera and shit/stuttery framerate, I tend to get motion sick. This directly impedes my enjoyment of the game.

>>14831324

Okay, I'm done with you. For everyone else, read his claims regarding piracy and telemetry: >>14831111 and then note that he did not post a lick of evidence supporting his claims that pirates are being datamined. Thanks for wasting my time, although I guess I deserve it for engaging with a deceptive, bitter consolefag.

>>14831344

Anon… do you know how cracking groups operate? Do you honestly believe they carefully monitor their network connection and remove any code that causes them?

Here's a reality check: Steam DRM is cracked automatically. This is why steam games get scene releases within 24h of release. With Denuvo games they focus on breaking the DRM. Why would they also go through the effort of identifying subroutines that phone home when the majority of their userbase isn't vocal about it?

Mark my words, the next generation will be even worse. The game industry as we know it is dead, only pandering to chinks makes money now.

>>14830521

>PS5 reveal

<no controller

<no disc

>there's a remote with only one button

>you press the button to go from one cinematic experience to another

I stopped buying consoles after PS3, mainly due to mandatory online.

I felt like the PS3 was just getting started by the time it's generation had come to a close. I have similar feelings regarding this. What's more saddening is, that from observation the selection of interesting games is decreasing by each generation.

>>14831416

Bullshit.

There's also going to be a Share button that screencaps your reactions and posts it automatically to your favorite CIA database for analysis.

>>14831420

Why would you need a share button? Do you have something to hide? You should let the PS5 stream everything you do :^)

>>14831425

>You should let the PS5 stream everything you do

>Implying they won't just stream the game from their servers.

>>14831425

Because gun-toting fringe radicals like me live out in rural areas which have shitty internet incapable of supporting 24 hour surveillance.

Besides, we already saw last gen both the rise of streaming/sharing en-masse, and the fall of Microsoft for having an always online camera spying on you. People don't mind handing all of their data over to their masters, but they need that illusion of it being a voluntary process.

I mean, it's the same thing, but one is with consent and the other is without consent. It's basically surveillance rape.

>>14831419

Same here, I gave up when paid online became a thing. I only bought a PS3 for MGS4 anyway so meh.

>>14831441

>Because gun-toting fringe radicals like me live out in rural areas which have shitty internet incapable of supporting 24 hour surveillance.

But we already made a console for you :^)

>making any progress largely a matter of luck

So casino games aren't games but "losing money, on average" experiences?:^)

>>14831344

>There's a bunch of evidence that titles from the biggest publishers in the world and some of the biggest developers have datamining in them

>But that doesn't affect US PIRATES despite the fact that cracking cannot remove that code from the game

This is what pc cucks actually believe.

>>14830503

The good news, just like the Wii U, we can now make a chart of must-have games for the no-game console!

>>14831480

I wonder what the smallest filesize would be of a list of PS4 worthwhile/exclusive games.

>>14831387

>>14831475

You are not wrong, but you can always prevent a cracked game from connecting to the net.

>>14831475

Friendly reminder that you can unplug PC from internet, but you can't do same with modern consoles.

>>14831312

Just don't meet at some shitty abandonned place and if they say that the goods are somewhere else and you need to follow them, just fuck off.

>>14831258

Wait for the PS5 and the numerous remasters in the first few months.

Reminds me that we're about 2 years away from the 20th anniversary of the PS2 launch.

>>14830665

Duke Nukem was secretly tile anon the whole time?

>>14831312

>literal sonygger

why are exclusives so fucking dead?

They were what breathed the life into PSX and PS2. I don't understand why Sony doesn't contract them anymore. Bloodborne is still about the only reason to own a PS4, and it's the best game on the console inclusive of non-exclusives. Is the RPG market just dead? PSX and PS2 had the best shit out there but then it all dropped dead with PS3. Where are the JRPGs? Where are the SRPGs?

Nintendo is probably going to be the only console company worth buying in the future because they actually have VIDEO GAMES.

>5 years

>Only actual good releases were the WipEout and Crash Bandicoot remasters

That

That's it?

>>14831546

In the past, you needed to basically rework most of the game from scratch to get it to work on other consoles. Around the Gamecube era, porting became easier but you still really needed to tailor the game to each console's strengths which was harder then.

Now? It's just a bunch of PCs. They're losing money by not porting it over, so unless they're paid by the console manufacturer to make it exclusive, there's no reason not to port.

It's a fucking shame.

And Nintendo only has good first party support because of their shit third party support. Whatever works, I suppose.

>>14830609

Bloodborne is shit

>>14831570

It's pretty depressing, this is just going to further homogenise everything as time goes on. We will never see the likes of peak PSX, Megadrive, SNES, N64 aesthetic again. Retrofags were right.

Well at least I discovered sweet VR porn.

>>14830503

Goddamn! What the fuck? Why is time flying by at break neck speed!

At this rate, the grave is only one step ahead for all of us!

>>14831632

maybe dying isn't so bad

>>14830503

Oh look a system wars thread full of stupid PC and console fanbois posting dead memes. Absolute fucking imbeciles the lot of you.

>>14831643

>Fenceshitter brings nothing of value to the thread while complaining the thread has nothing of value

Typical

>>14831645

>Brings nothing of value.

I beg to differ. I called you all out for being faggots and you yoursel got triggered enough to reply and if you think a systems wars thread is a worthy forum for intelligent conversation you are seriously delusional.

>>14830622

>go to the hood to meet a nigger in a dark alley for a $150 playstation

>get robbed and killed

Bad idea anon. Baaad.

Already? Wow

>>14831609

<<PC is a much better option

>Nearly no nip support (especially UI & text) in most cases of PC ports for recent nip console games, whereas it's possible to import shit on consoles at least (or pirate in case of the Vita/3DS for instance). PC users are forced to deal with localization hijinks.

>Most of PC ports being garbage with various visual downgrades or bugs, poor optimization, random crashes, etc

>Have to deal with Steam as a completely locked DRM service that publishers and devs cant ignore when developing or porting on PC

Yeah the PS4 is pretty disappointing with the pay4online and not-so-amazing library (outside of a couple weeb games, and that's depending if you didnt know a previous gen console or/and a Vita too). But pretending that PC is remotely fine in its current form is retarded too.

>>14831492

Yes you can. Don't plug in ethernet and never give it a wireless password. Not that 99% of console owners would do that though. They literally have google analytics in their UIs.

>>14831670

>he doesn't emulate

>>14831670

>Japanese UI and text

Not only is that an irrelevant nitpick in of it itself, but you're also nitpicking the games that don't have it.

Most do have Japanese interfaces, dual audio as well unlike some console versions.

>They're forced to deal with localization hijinks

Except dual audio, UI and Interfavr is always avaiable in Japanese with very very few rare exceptions

>Importing a game with a hefty waiting period and fee is much better

Whatever you say Playasia

>Most of PC ports being garbage with various visual downgrades or bugs, poor optimization, random crashes, etc

So you haven't actually played them or have compared them to the console versions?

>Have to deal with Steam as a completely locked DRM service that publishers and devs cant ignore when developing or porting on PC

Piracy

>But pretending that PC is remotely fine in its current form is retarded too.

I never did

Everything is kiked right now and gaming as a whole is pretty shit, the PC is simply the best way to bypass all of that while having the best library possible, both with old and new releases.

>>14831672

Switch does use ARM though

>>14830503

>Still no PS4 armored core

oh well, itd probably be like the garbage 5/verdict day

>>14830513

Back in the day 5 years was a fucking long time for a console as you'd see progress all around. Now current gen consoles feel like they have barely used their potential at all despite the heavily outdated hardware.

You guys know what this means right?

FINAL FANTASY 7 REMAKE IS BOUND TO BE DELAYED AGAIN FOR THE NEXT SYSTEM

>>14831724

Pretty much

A SHOT THROUGH THE HEART

AND YOUR TO BLAME

>>14831821

Don';t forget that people bought a PS3 for KH3

>>14831836

PS3

=HAS NO GAMES==

>>14831836

PS4 HAS NO GAME

>>14831695

Emulation is a good alternative when you cant have the original hardware for either reason (either because the system and its games are scalped to hell and back, no room place, etc), but it's not a flawless thign either

>>14831699

>Not only is that an irrelevant nitpick in of it itself, but you're also nitpicking the games that don't have it.

It'"s nitpicky when you're into weebshit and dont want to deal localization hijinks. Also ironically among the very few localizations teams that bother including it are IF & NISA, but fuck the latter.

>Except dual audio, UI and Interfavr is always avaiable in Japanese with very very few rare exceptions

Now you're spouting bullshit

>Importing a game with a hefty waiting period and fee is much better

>Whatever you say Playasia

There are other websites like amazon jp, ebay, not to mention the whole deal of used copies.

>So you haven't actually played them or have compared them to the console versions?

Except I did with EDF 4.1, Fairy Fencer, Disagea 1, Atelier Sophie, One Piece Pirate Warriors 3, etc (which I all pirated in the first place)

>Piracy

Which part of "devs/publishers unable to ignore Steam" can you fucking understand? I swear a lot of faggots use this as an excuse to escape back to their "mustard race" safe space and ignore how fucked things are due of Steam monopoly on the PC platform

>>14831809

>>14831821

>>14831844

>>14831848

>>14831849

You want to know what's even funnier?

A large chunk of people won't fucking learn?

>>14830544

>Half of what you listed was also on the ps3 also

The Yakuza games (and so will the remasters) run and look better on PS4 compared to their PS3 counterparts.

Why is better gfx and framerate a selling point for PC but not for consoles?

>>14832050

Mine has become a bit of dust collector. Honestly the only reason I've kept it is because it at least has physical copies of the weeb games I play. Even though most of those games have PC ports most of them are garbage ports, especially Nier Automata and anything from Koei Techmo.

>>14832041

Well on the bright side your wife didn't buy you a Switch. If she did, then you know she's cucking you for nigger twins.

ps2 had like four thousand titles

ps3 had hundreds of titles

ps4 has like 20 titles

god awful

>>14830738

ps3/xbox 360 were the longest running systems of any generation

>>14832066

>PS5 is THE game

>>14832041

>doesnt know how to build a PC

>wife

>>>/normalfags/

>>14832058

It's mostly Super Robot machine not that I liked them and shit Metal Max after the good 3ds game. I don't have good PC and rance games run on my shit laptop. Didn't even buy FFXV because of westernized hollywood wanna be art and shit gameplay.

>>14831804

>Back in the day 5 years was a fucking long time for a console as you'd see progress all around

That's true for the 80's, but most of those new consoles were total flops. Only a few got any real success and those were produced for a lot longer.

The Atari 2600 was produced from the 70's to the 90's.

>>14831312

>12 siblings

>>14832019

Because you need to buy a completely new locked down system to play them and exclusives are the lifeblood of these devices.

There's a reason this is called the "remaster gen" and all these WiiU ports and the new Yakuza remasters prove that the name isn't just a shit meme.

>>14832135

>1990 is 30 years ago

>>14832138

>2011 was 45 years ago

>>14832129

>Because you need to buy a completely new locked down system

This statement assumes everyone had a PS3 to begin with. Either way, it still doesn't make the selling point of "better gfx, better framerate" any less objectively true.

As for the locked down system part, the PS3 I've had for over 8 years or so is still working perfectly well. As long as it can play the games the way it was meant to, that's all I care about.

I with cuckchan would end it's life cycle

>>14831410

I just wish the framerate was even vaguely stable. Fucker just barely runs.

>>14832190

>the PS3 I've had for over 8 years or so is still working perfectly well. As long as it can play the games the way it was meant to, that's all I care about.

Thanks for proving my point, why buy a completely new system when the old one runs games fine?

Are you going to shill for the Pro next?

>>14831410

>The Last Guardian's "rules" are inconsistent, largely when it comes to AI

Just start the post with "I never played the game but…" so I can ignore the rest next time retard

So is the PS4 library bigger than Wii or N64?

>>14832233

Of worthwhile games no.

>>14832233

>Wii

No

>N64

Yes

>>14832236

Compared to the Wii that's arguable honestly

>>14832222 (checked)

>It makes me wonder how fast it would be to implement that Chinese system of ratings

I hate recommending jew books… but Charles Stross version he described in his book "Accelerando" actually sounded interesting to me.

Basically the main character's social media account became his bank account. The future version of Faceberg had a "reputation" score. Instead of dealing in any specific currency the MC worked with corporate leaders (often giving them multi-million dollar ideas) for reputation points that he traded for favors with other corporations.

>>14832198

I have in fact owned a PS3 for many years, and still bought a PS4. Why? Because my PS3 can't run Bloodborne, which just happened to be the game I wanted to play the most at that time.

So since I have a PS4, I might as well get Yakuza 0 (which is another game I wanted) for it and not on PS3, because it's the superior version. Like I've said, that selling point doesn't stop being true just because I also have a PS3.

I won't "shill" for the Pro because there's no reason for me to be interested in it. It just might be better to see if the PS5 has BC.

>>14832258

>$500 for a meme game

Do your parents know you are cancer?

>>14832265

>Pube in mouth.

Gross as fuck.

>>14832265

>I bought a console for one game

No. I bought a console for multiple games, one of which was Bloodborne.

>I then bought a game available on a platform I already owned

More precisely, I bought the definite version of said game. I'll repeat, the selling point of "better gfx, better framerate" isn't less true just because a game might be multiplatform.

>You just keep proving me right

Right about what?

>>14832284

>$500

What?

My PC is a toaster and I got a ps4 for my birthday way back in 2015, it did nothing but sit in storage collecting dust until elite dangerous came to the system.

Imagine how fucking pissed I was when I learned you need to pay them to use internet that you are already paying for and that I couldn't get into dogfights with real people.

>>14832308

You could have build a rig with those 400 buckaroos.

>>14832303

>the selling point of "better gfx, better framerate" isn't less true just because a game might be multiplatform.

That selling point becomes moot as soon as you have to buy a completely new system just to play it.

>>14832319

>>14832340

>That selling point becomes moot as soon as you have to buy a completely new system

>A PC can play them better

No, I don't agree that becomes "moot". And what about someone who would have to build a completely new PC in order to do just that?

>>14832065

She's Japanese, so she was buying what she knows best!

>>14832388

> And what about someone who would have to build a completely new PC in order to do just that?

But you don't as dialing back on graphical options is a choice.

>>14832390

>No, optimization is shit

Same on consoles nowadays sadly

> PCs are expensive

No they're absolutely not

A medium rig will cost you around 600 eurobucks

>Devs put Zero effort into the PC ports most of the time.

What's a good port for you? They all run better than their console counterparts

>Back in the glory days of PC gaming I'd have agreed but when devs make assets and so on with consoles in mind PC just can't be that much better.

What? You didn't even get console games at the time on the platform

>And the only exclusives PC gets are indie games that look like ass 90% of the time, using almost none of the hardware.

Embed related, you're full of shit

>What I'm saying is that the graphics intense PC games are just souped up console games at this point.

What's your point? We're talking about performance, future proofing and input versatility here, not grafix

>Might as well play them on console, then you can actually buy games instead of renting them from Gaben

By pirating games I actually own the games and I'll be able to play them even if I upgrade without the need to buy them again.

Lots of cuckchan consoleniggers on this board nowadays it seems.

>>14832451

>Meanwhile the reality is that the PS5 is probably releasing in 2020 and will likely have full backwards compatibility

I'd really like to see that, actually. Both with digital and disc-based games.

>>14832459

>But you don't as dialing back on graphical options is a choice

Not really a choice for people who have older systems and can barely even run modern games.

>>14832473

>Used goods.jpeg

>>14832488

>Both with digital and disc-based games

Haha, yeah fucking right. If anyone bought into the digital meme they're going to be told to get fucked and buy it again.

>>14832506

That's not what I have in mind when I think of BC. At that point is just a port…

>>14832487

>PS4 had remasters because there's a big difference between cell architecture and x86 architecture.

That's the dumbest fucking excuse, PS3 had PS1 and PS2 emulation on some variants and even Microsoft is giving out back compat on their shit brick.

You'll get nothing but streaming, this time shilled to hell and back, and you'll like it because that's more financially viable.

>>14832488

>Not really a choice for people who have older systems and can barely even run modern games.

Embed related

>>14832421

God bless the both of you.

Switch isn't too bad if you don't mind importing Japanese titles and having a Japanese myNintendo account. Hope for Switch in Japan is to be a Japanese middlweare machine rather than a potato port/indie dumpster machine like it is in the west.

However that is ALOT of effort to play Japanese games on the Switch.

If you're wondering why Nintendo threads have been flooded with binger wahooligan soyjak memes is because people who buy a Switch in the west are hipster soyboy SJW journalists or Nintendrone Youtube/Twitch streamers who don't buy a Switch to play games. They buy a Switch to shitpost about how they bought a Switch and stream playing it rubbing it in people's faces that they bought a Switch and you suck for not having one.

There is no middleware in the west and uncucked indie games that aren't Devolver Digital ports and Dragon Fang Z. Also SJWs being gatekeepers of localization is going to fuck localization which will discourage Japanese middleware from localizing games in the future.

>>14832541

Fuckoff Metokur

>>14832530

That video shows off him testing a single game on a variety of gpus (some of them pretty decent), and… on a i5.

When I mean "old", I mean dual core/ddr2 memory old.

>>14832519

>"But you don't understand, anon! We need to charge again for our digital only game because Sony charged us a fee for our game to be on the PS5 store!"

That's what is going to happen

>>14832530

>PS3 had PS1 and PS2 emulation on some variants

This is a terrible example because it was later cut for several reasons. PS1 emulation was because it was easy to brute force that toaster for emulation. PS2 emulation was a nightmare because it was such a mess that devs had to opt into making their games backwards compatible. And the hardware in those variants was what kept the PS3's price so high. So the combination of it being so difficult that few devs found it worthwhile and it being expensive killed it.

But if the PS5 is x86 just like the PS4 there's a good chance it'll just be able to run PS4 games natively like the Wii ran Gamecube games natively.

>>14832573

If you're still running DDR2 parts then the better question is what are you gonna do when those ancient parts die on you in the next year? Not to mention that from what I've seen on the speccy threads, everyone on /v/ at least has DDR3, even if it's the most bottom-of-the-bucket DDR3 hardware.

>>14832452

Strangely enough I read some hentai mangas for the plot if they're good enough. Like alot of 80's hentai anime before everything went moeblob. I got baited and switched expecting cute monster girl princess but instead I got dystopian monster slaying sex sluts instead.

>>14832559

I'm honored you mistaken me for an e-celeb sell out. You know it's true. Normalfags don't play games for their entertainment. Normalfag Chads play games with their friends to bully soyboys and shitty streamers for their friend's entertainment so they can have alpha bragging rights to smash Stacy's pussy every night. Least that's what the internet has taught me.

Stay buttmad.

>>14832559

This post >>14832639 was meant for >>14832421, my mistake.

> Normalfag Chads play games with their friends to bully soyboys and shitty streamers for their friend's entertainment so they can have alpha bragging rights to smash Stacy's pussy every night.

Normalfag Chads play sports games and CoD and then fuckoff to wageslave or lift at an overexpensive gym.

>>14832589

>That's what is going to happen

I'll be paying very close attention to what they decide to do. All it takes to convince me on a PS5 is Sony extending their "cross-buy" program or something similar along other devs, and introduce new exclusives.

Plenty of time to think before deciding. I'll actually have a more updated PC by that time.

>what are you gonna do when those ancient parts die on you in the next year?

I've recently started buying new parts and will continue to do so bit by bit over the next few months. It's still going to be a low end toaster, just more up to date.

>>14832616

>Old hardware isn't old hardware if I say so

Well, that's not very intellectually honest. I clarified what I meant, and he's using a 4th gen i5 to be more precise, as stated in his video description. Are you saying a dual core and deprecated ram is in any way comparable to the system he's using?

>>14832656

Sure, mistakes happen all the time. I make them more than once. I will never be a /v/ hot pocket nor do I want to be involved in that circle because of it. (That's a terrible joke for not having a clean posting history.)

That might be true in the 00's, but this is the current year where the Staceys are taking notice of the Logan Pauls and the PewDiePies and other shitty famous e-celebs.

>>14832751

Your claim from earlier was that buying a completely new system would make the selling point of 'better performance/visuals in multiplat games' moot. I asked you about what if someone is upgrading from an old PC, that would be the same as buying a new system entirely. Your reasoning was found wanting in that particular point.

>You can't play your older titles on a PS4 with improved performance

>with upgraded PC hardware you can play both older titles with improved performance and modern titles

Sure, I've never claimed otherwise.

>the same modern games

No, not the same. And I don't care about a "bigger collection", that is an empty term that has no inherent meaning. What I care about is games that I actually want to play, which isn't the same thing.

>>14830937

>when in reality, unless you shell out north of $1500 for a high-end gaming PC

I don't even give all that much of a shit about PC and i know for a fact that this is bullshit. I'm running a $500 machine with, like, a 750ti graphics card, and it still runs games far better than the typical sub 1080p 30fps i've seen the ps4 push.

>>14833052

It's because of jewtube. People like totalasscancer who brag about having two Titan Xs and whatever the newest processor on the market is, it gives the idea to normalfags and people who have never put a PC together that that's what you need to run Ultra settings, which are a fucking joke in and of themselves.

>>14833068

Ultra settings is the biggest joke in the recent history of gaming. Often times with games there is a negligible difference but it'll suck up another 30% of your PCs resources. There is no reason to go above High settings in modern games.

>>14831125

This image is sending me mixed messages.

>>14830765

Have amusement in destroying those companies, when they don't deliver what is wanted for them.

It is as pleasant as playing good games.

>>14830831

No amount of corporate shilling will change the fact that The Last Guardian is shit.

>>14831199

Yes. But it will eventually be perfect.

Holy Piracy always find a way.

>>14831090

He surely not sounded like that.

As for what you have said, it is all true.

I would just add that, if by whatever reason someone must check a bad game, do it ONLY via piracy. If it is not possible at the time, don't check it at all.

>>14831111

Stay mad, impotent brand loyalist.

Getting games for free via piracy is the best option.

As soon as they beef up DRM, piracy finds a way to keep cracking it.

>>14832326

This anon gets it >>14832340

In short, the retarded are retarded.

Never be loyal to any brand.

Exploit them all and get everything for free when possible.

>>14832390

>>14832571

Just wait for the inevitable emulation. PCs are the better option for the sheer reason that everything comes to PC, in one way or another, and all for free.

>>14833068

>>14833082

This.

>>14831125

Nothing better than to have money and not spend it on entertainment, but still get entertainment products for free without giving money to the companies that create them.

Stay mad, Soyny shill.

>>14833620

Easy to talk big when nobody bothers to support Brazil to begin with, eh huenigger.

>>14831312

>mystery meat rodent gets shot by retarded vermin control nigger

Well done on your society America, the melting pot really churned out some paragons of humanity.

>>14831578

Cats are ok I guess.

>>14832118

Those dates are all fucked up.

Famicom was out in Japan in 1983.

Super Famicom was out in 1990.

>14831561

You lying motherfucker. I bought a new PC exactly 5 years ago for around $1500 and it's a worthless pile of shit now that could barely run the latest games on low settings at 30-40 fps. I'd be lucky to get someone to take it off my hands for a $100 dollars. I nigger wouldn't even bother stealing this shit now. That's how fucked the home PC market is. You purchase a graphics card and 2 years later it blows and it won't run any games. By the way, my card is a gtx 770 lighting edition, cost me $450 back in the day, my processor is 4670k Intel i5 that combined with the board and ram, cost like $500-600 dollars. Then there's the case, the drives, the fans, the os, the accessories, etc. etc.

>>14834349

Then you overpaid and got a low end alienware or something

>>14834519

No I didn't. I paid MSRP or less for each component, and built my own system, and it still cost a fuck ton of money, only to end up with an obsolete trash like 3 years later. PC gaming is a huge money sink and isn't suitable for anyone but richfags unless you're content just playing old games with low requirements. Consoles are cheaper with more lasting power. 500$ + graphics cards that are obsolete in 2-3 years. Nuff said.

>>14830909

There is no way to open your PS4 box, put in a better processor and GPU, and put it back together expecting it to work with the original OS. Hence wall garden upgrades require you to buy a new system entirely.

>>14833599

Depressingly sober when I wrote that. Depressingly sober now.