/v/ - HAPPY E3 EVERYONE

>>14820448

Yazuka was never good.

PC ports soon

Its funny but despite Yakuza having all those wondeful minigames its not that replayable after you beat each game twice.

>>14821276

Isn't it already out?

>>14821499

>Console wars

>The game of a generation

If it sounds like a cuckchan retard then it's likely a cuckchan retard.

>>14820592

to be fair when you can easily put 50+ hours into a single playthrough that's not exactly a bad thing.

>replay yakuza 5 before 6

>finish up 6

>figured i'd be burned out but already itching for kiwami 2

>>14822546

what the hell happened to kiryus blue jacket by full release

>>14822655

Disregard the '?'.

Side note, I'm glad Y6 started adding difficulty levels for the arcade games. Been hooked on SHO for a while, might even git gud enough to one day conquer it in the default setting.

When's the worldwide Kiwami 2 demo coming out? Is it gonna be about a month before release like 6?

This series sure is better than the failure that is metal gear, thats for sure.

>When you find out Majima's whole modern persona is just LARPing as Nishitani.

>becoming worse than who/what he actually was.

Real Majima is a bro. He downgraded himself for what purpose?

>>14824385

Not that its effectively explained, but im pretty sure it has to do with him being sick of errand boy. If losing his mind meant he dealt with as few higher ups as possible, thats a fair trade for him. Because he was still normal at the end of 0, up until meeting Kiryu in the street. I do feel they shouldve actually develiped that particular aspect more, his descent into not giving a fuck. It kinda just 'happened' right at the end.

>tfw no hokuto ga gotoku

>>14827092

I didn't actually finish 0 yet, up to chapter 16 and counting on completing all substories/business before moving to the finale. But I'm not at all surprised to hear Majima's arc ends like this.

It was a losing proposition, really. They wanted to make Majima a playable character, but all Yakuza characters must be I AM THE FUCKING VIRTUOUS so we got Bro Majima.

Either they completely committed to portraying him losing his mind throughout the story, or they had a normal, virtuous badass to do their Yakuza thing throughout. My guess is they thought the first choice would be too dark and different, so the only real way to lead into Crazy Majima was giving him a mentor in insanity and flipping the "I now elect to be insane" switch at the end.

>>14827113

Well, he does legit become batshit insane after a certain someone gets really hurt in the finale, but everything wacky that happens afterwards in the previous games is retconned into Majima only pretending to be retarded all along. Hell, in Kiwami they even give him Nishitani's pre-fight knife dance intro. The difference in the view of who Majima is that veterans of the series posses compared to what people who started with 0 posses is staggering. They mellowed him out progressively more and more ever since 4 when it's revealed that he's Saejima's sworn brother until we got the current Majima who is merely pretending.

And he basically just tells Sagawa "Yeah this jacket is stupid, I don't care, I'm gonna go live my life as a crazy person"

Moments of Kiwami then allude to it all being an act because Majima remembers everything he did as a sane individual, like his time bartending.

Never played the series before but I was gifted 0. Am I in for a good time?

>>14827092

>>14827130

>>14824385

I thought his transformation had less to do with pretending to be retarded and more along the lines of "I spent several years trapped in a cage so I'm going to live however the fuck I want from now on"

>>14827257

It depends, but I would say yes.

>>14827257

Yep. Feel free to ask about anything here if you run into some trouble, there's bound to be someone who'll be able to help you out.

>>14827371

>Gotta feel sorry for Nishiki though, his name really got dragged through the mud.

No shit. Fat boy OOOOOOOOOOOOOORYAAAAAAAAAAAAAH is the representation of how low the Nishikiyama Family got and it seems like it ended with fat boy's beheading, what a shitty way to go. When it came to the biggest assholes in 3 it was a contest between him, the CIA nigger and Okinawan Joseph Joestar in a crimson suit, but imo the latter has all of them beat. The CIA nigger at least has some copy-pasted Jacky Bryant moves.

>Rather poorly planned.

No shit, never forget the sushi set, pork bento lunch set and the RIZAP supplements debacle.

>>14827487

I'm still miffed that MILF hunter doesn't switch sword stances in Kiwami 2 like he did in the original.

>>14827497

I wonder how many move sets from 6 got re used in Kiwami 2. Surely they won't let all that fancy new stuff go to waste.

Side note, I love how inappropriately groovy Y4's tense theme is.

>>14827643

Hayashi is still Baba, but when it comes to new characters from 2 the only one I can tell for sure is that Daigo gets Yuta's moveset

>>14827822

Wasn't that guy really easy?

>>14831128

Aw fuck yes. Western re-release of 3 means all the shit they took out for being "too Japanese" will be back.

>>14828658

Yeah, he's a bitch. Only fights you if you follow his "don't Heat me in the face" rule and after getting his punk ass handed to him 5, 6 times in a row, he asks you for treefiddy so he can hightail it to Tokyo and go drag his gran gran out of the retirement home so they can gank you. You heard me faggot, I don't care how good your theme is, you're a bitch!

>>14831128

I guess it's expected. I'll probably get 5.

Hopefully these won't take a gazillion years to make it to the West. I wonder if they're getting relocalized? The new localization team seem very thorough and I like that about them, I can see them retouch the translations to fix names and stuff.

OT note, SIE president and CEO John Kodera said at Sony Investor Relations Day 2018 that the PS4 is entering the final phase of its life cycle.

https://gematsu.com/2018/05/playstation-ceo-ps4-entering-final-phase-of-life-cycle

Ichibanowitz on PS5?

>>14831128

>Yakuza PC collection with Yakuza 0, Kiwami, Kiwami 2 and the remasters of 3, 4 and 5.

Watch it happen

why remaster 5 thought?

>>14831141

I fucking hope it does. It's the only one out of the bunch I'd be willing to pay for again, provided they add all the content that's been butchered back in.

>>14832496

>Why make our new console retrocompatible when we can release entire catalogues as (((remasters)))?

Those aren't Kiwami affairs, either. Pretty much just straight ports with slightly better specs.

>>14832543

Honestly someone should warn /v/ to not buy all fucking yakuza games. Like only try out 0, if already have PS4 just to try out the only best game in the series. And not go further at least before you platinum it. Because the further you go the more boring and less worthy the series gets. Buying like 3-5 and then kiwami 1-2, and 0, and fucking 6 is not only autistic or just plain stupid, its funding money grabbing like that. Especially knowing those are all sony exclusives.

Not to mention after 0 everything feels just worse.

I'm fine with stopping after Kiwami 2. Nothing else seems like as important to play unless you really like Akiyama and Taiga. Sega isn't gonna jew me this time.

>Bought 6 because sale

>Getting the itch to at least see how it opens up then go back to platinuming 0

>It opens with a whole load of "hey, let's assume this the very first Yakuza game for a lot of dumbasses"

>Yet of all the games, 3 seems to be the most important to play before, at least for the opening, so you can get Kiryu's attachment to morning glory

I imagine someone who hasn't played or watched 3 would just wonder what's the big deal with these dumbass kids.

Also a question, the "essence of art" edition is pretty much just the standard edition, yeah? It was the only one sold at my store.

>>14832588

0 was my first yakuza, followed by kiwami, followed by 6. i loved the combat in 6 and kiwami 2 is based on that so i'll definitely get that.

dont know about the rest but i dont plan on stopping unless (((something))) happens. but so far each yakuza i've played has been worth the cost.

>>14833063

>These games are huge time sinkers and getting burned out of 'em is something that can happen.

This is especially true now. Let's say that you're a good chunk of people who are into Yakuza now and 0's your first Yakuza game. Suddenly you find out that there's 5 other mainline games before it and now there's Kiwami, 6 and Kiwami 2 right around the corner. I couldn't imagine playing through all of them in a quick succession. Hell, my first game was 2 way back in the day and just before I beat it my friend found out that I liked the game and lent me his copy of 1 so I can get some of the older references. I ended up beating 2 and I started playing the first game right away, but I just got so burnt out of playing them after the funeral chapter that I needed to distance myself from it for 3 months before starting again. I am glad I did play through it though, there's so much things in 1 that made me get a more complete understanding of 2. I kinda got surprised that Kiryu was the chairman for a grand total of about 15 minutes before retiring, especially given how much respect he gets and how many characters kept referring to him as 4th chairman. I also couldn't believe that Kiryu gave his position to a gook who is the mastermind behind 2 and seemingly a 4D interdimensional Mahjong player on the level of Kazama given how long he had to keep up his ruse and how much time it took for his whole goddamn plan.

>>14833063

Yeah, some of the artwork is trash and I noticed someone slapped in Majima making the shiggy diggy meme, but the box is elegant if nothing else.

I've also heard 5 is the best content wise, but I'm just not getting a PS3 just for it. If they quit pussyfooting and make PC ports I'd go for it though.

Doesnt Saejima get out of prison before Kiryu gets out and returns to kamurocho in 6? He only had a couple years left and Kiryu got 3 years.

>>14833264

didnt kiryu get out early?

>>14833286

I don't think so. I'm pretty sure he served the full 3 years.

>>14833349

they all seemed surprised to see him though.

Either way, I hope Saejima is in the next game, playable or otherwise.

Majima should be out of prison too. I dont see why he can't become playable again the way Saejima was during his sentences.

>>14833330

>If you stick to the main story, you can kinda rush them but if you go through a Yakuza game like that, you're missing out on a lot of shit.

Yeah, that's the point, at least for your first walkthrough you should do as much shit as you want and beat all the sidestories if you don't really feel like doing all the minigames (God knows I never play Mahjong or the shitty Pachinko games in Yakuza). My rule of thumb is that the minimal amount of sidecontent I do for the first playthrough is the one which will get me all the heatmoves and other abilities and which will get me to beat Amon's ass. Rushing through the games is what I only do for EX-Hard/Legend playthroughs, except for 0 which is the only game that I can say for sure doesn't let you start a new game on EX-Hard/Legend with all your gear and stats intact, but rather forces you to truly play from the beginning, I'm not 100% sure if 4 is the other one which also does this or not.

>>14833367

From what I've read, Ichibanstein's gonna walk into Kamurocho which is suddenly owned by the Omi after they drove the Tojo out of Tokyo with the help of the police. This is actually based on something which actually happened in the Japanese underground where the police managed to drive out a yakuza group out of Kabukicho and after a power vacuum another group muscled themselves in. This begs the question as to what happened to the three powerhouses of the Tojo clan - Saejima, Daigo and Majima. I hope they didn't just kill them off, but sending them all conveniently to jail like in 6 would be extremely stupid as well.

>>14821538

>I'm getting to the end of Yakuza 2 and the allies following you whining and wheezing trying to catch up with Kiryu is really getting on my tits.

It's best to just ignore them.

>>14833978

Your entire character motivation was "fuck you, dad", you don't get to say shit about anyone.

>>14833349

He probably got more but he estimated he would get three years with parole from the start. As for why the morning glory kids seemed surprised, maybe parole allows for some uncertainty in the date, I certainly don't know how it works.

>Alright, I'm going to fucking get Ms. Isobe this time

>Plan on taking her on easy

>End up selecting normal

>Oh shit

>Try to do it anyway

>Absolutely suck at the steps mechanic, but get an uninterrupted 52 combo

>I wipe the floor with her

She ended up making 20 million in her very first shift at the club.

>>14834855

You're right, I'm sorry. It's "fuck you, dad" and "muh dragon".

>>14837020

Fuck that disco shit

Well, I started really playing 6. I went in lowering my expectations but boy I didn't expect to get something this fucking weird. They went all in in the realism meme, almost to the point of simulation. Having to hear Kiryu pant for the price of running is immediately obnoxious, yet I found myself intrigued more than annoyed so far.

>>14837306

The timing is obnoxiously restrictive, but I can tell you right now you can mostly ignore the steps, the combos are where it's at point-wise.

>>14837463

>>14837463

I just cant get the hang of it.

>>14837514

Stick with easy mode for a while, this minigame's awkward as fuck and that's mostly because of how precise you have to be when hitting a note and how confusing it can get when multiple notes appear. That's something that is learned from experience, but the steps mechanic just tries its damnedest to distract you from getting the hang of it.

By my estimate I'd say it took me about 30 songs to get it? Then again I'm hitting 90 points in the karaoke so I can imagine other anons being worse off at the disco. I will agree it's needlessly awkward, at any rate.

But yeah, if you're going for the champions, it might be best to try to combo most of the song on normal, they make a crazy amount of steps but tend never to break a dozen combo-wise, so uninterrupted streak is your best bet.

>>14837588

the AI has absurd fluctuations on their score. If you ever get stuck on a dance battle, look at the scores, you'll see differences up to 1000 points so there's a bit of RNG there too

This I would also say to just concentrate on getting a super huge combo and not worry about steps too much as combo multipliers will get you a much higher score more easily than trying to fit a ton of steps in and risk losing the combo.

>>14837649

Is it wrong to notice parallels between yakuza and metal gear solid?

for instance,they all seem to end in a shirtless fight between the main character and the "bad guy"

>>14837864

For real, Ryuji was a cool rival on paper but he just didn't reach his potential because of the fucking mess that was the whole Jingweon narrative. Making his motivation unrelated to those niggers was the right choice, but it didn't leave him with much when he could have been much deeper. His scenes with Kaoru were on point, if nothing else.

>>14837898

It's ridiculous how all of them got into places of power, especially Terada. Doesn't got overboard but 2 starts the trend of plot twists so absurd and/or convoluted they'll make you go "fuck it, I'm out". I got a refresher of 4 recently and that just goes peak retard with everyone playing 9th dimension underwater shogi, the rubber bullets that completely null the point of Taiga's characterization, Rikiya 2: Shot in the Back Boogaloo, post-Ch1 Akiyama etc.

On that note, I found 6 to be almost tame when it came to explaining its twists. Ch12's reveal is over the top but the rest of the points all make some degree of sense, I guess because once you find out who's been stirring shit in Kamurocho, you don't have each and every one of his pawns going "Ackchyually, being played like a fiddle was part of my keikaku all along."

I still think Ryuji needs his own game (I found his part in DS to be very mellow). Could even have parts set in different points of his life ending close to where he is in Y2. I think it would be interesting if it started in elementary school, fighting the highschoolers and maybe end that part with the Majima fight, make that shit set in stone canon. Then again, I just really like the tank characters in beat 'em ups.

>>14837306

Disco is a minigame where you can only git gud through experience, I don't know anyone who didn't immediately suck at it due to how weird the exact timing can be. When you get down the timing and realize that the steps actually follow the rhythm of each song, that's when you can REALLY git gud at it. And as >>14837658 said there's a lot of RNG bullshit in it too.

>>14838039

>It's ridiculous how all of them got into places of power, especially Terada

>tfw your plan involves being one of the few Jingweon survivors due to being spared by Kazama, then you harbor a grudge against the Tojo and wish to destroy them. You join the Omi, rise to the top and wait decades for some 10 billion yen bullshit to surface in the Tojo clan and then you end up merely pretending to work with all the Tojo power players, that being Nishiki and Shimano, in that whole fiasco, but you are actually secretly working for Kazama because "muh hitman's bond", but not really since you still harbor that grudge against the Tojo. Then you know that Sera's going to name Kiryu for his true successor as chairman, then you know that Kiryu will not want to be chairman for more than 15 minutes and name you as his successor. Then you empty the Tojo of anyone who's worth a damn due to your shitty leadership, but that shitty leadership was actually just a ruse in order to exactly rid the Tojo of people like Majima. Then you fake your own death and work with an Omi guy in order to destroy the Tojo clan, because you'll know that Kiryu will step up again and want to have peaceful relations with the Omi, which will cause Ryuji to go apeshit because "I'M THE ONLY DRAGON DAMMIT!", which will cause the Jingweon and Omi to be able to rule the entire far Asian underground

Now THAT'S 4D interdimensional telepathic Mahjong. A shame that the mere presence of Kiryu just makes problems solve themselves. Good effort, though.

>>14838833

Yeah, disco is annoying as fuck at first.

It's hard to tell what beats you're supposed to be listening for until you've learned the timings by trial and error but it's kinda fun when you get used to it

>>14838833

>spoiler

All that planning and he never once considered that maybe, just maybe, one stupidly resilient guy would show and Heat them all in the nuts.

Anyway, here's a trailer for 3 Remaster. At least it doesn't look arguably worse like the DaS one.

>>14838039

By the way, is the Kazuki clone ever fucking explained? I don't recall it being the case.

>>14840205

Yeah.

Nothing special, but she was better than the dyke in the other club. Got no time for that shit.

>>14840194

I'm betting this won't come to the West until all 3 are released, and it will be a box set or something

>>14831128

>improved resolution and frame rates

Sounds like they won't be getting the Kiwami treatment. Honestly, after how they're handling 2's, I'm perfectly fine with that. Hopefully 3 will get the content that was cut in the US version back.

Maybe now my dumbass buddy can shut up about not knowing which Yakuza games to start at despite them being clearly numbered.

>>14840395

I doubt it, I think they'll be digital-only like the remasters of 1 and 2 on PS3. I do hope for the sake of the "WHICH ORDER DO I PLAY IN??? LOL!!!" fags that the PS4 remasters actually do get released in the west too, unlike the remasters of 1 and 2 which are Japan only

>>14840884

The 1 and 2 remasters did get physical releases in Japan though, on both PS3 and WiiU

>>14841086

Oh, I see-

>WiiU

Wait, what???

>>14841111

Yup.

>>14841127

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Yakuza Ishin was brought to the west as a switch exclusive.

>4th miss Tatsu's job

>Be careful, this guy gets into overdrive if you smash his antiques!

>This heavily restricts your Beast style and the guy's no slouch, but I manage it

>The dialogue after the battle still says I smashed his antiques

>>14838039

I would be down for a Ryuji game because there's room for the guy to be all chivalrous in Sotenbori if he's not triggered by another guy having a dragon tattoo. And I do think he deserves to get more characterization.

the only company representatives*

>>14843298

>the only game to get a relase on another platform is the 1&2 HD bundle for the Wii U, which apparently bombed really hard

If I made remaster versions of PS2 games for the goddamn wiiU, bombing really hard would be the height of my sales expectations. It's a fucking ridiculous release and I say this as a wiiU owner.

In any case, the producer is reluctant to even release Ishin in the west on PS4 because omg the bakumatsu must be a foreign concept there, surely nobody ever read Rurouni Kenshin. Saying the mostly western PC platform is scary to these guys is an understatement.

>>14843298

>The latter might sound like a stretch

Believe me, it doesn't, especially for someone who knows how fucking stupid Sega can be, even more so if you're a VFer like me. We've been blueballed so hard for years that we're even prepared to accept breadcrumbs such as the shitty fourth rate VF5FS port in Y6 as proof that they still care about us. The time is so ripe for a VF6, but they keep blueballing us by doing shit like putting VF characters in a mobileshit soccer game, they'll do fucking anything as long as it doesn't involve making a new entry.

>>14846995

Emulate the first two ones, but if you absolutely must go modern, go with 0. Kiwami expects you to have played that.

>>14847023

>if you absolutely must go modern

does that mean kiwami sucks?

>>14848086

No, just that it references zero so it's not an ideal starting point. If you can't stand PS2, go for 0 and then kiwami.

>>14827487

>If anyone here just started Yakuza 6, make sure you get these things during the first 3 chapters.

Some specifics on this? I'm at chapter 2.

>>14848037

>It got me a bit sad that Matsunaga has so little screentime because he's one of my favorite new characters

His mawashi kubi geri form is also very nice. He seems like a karateka from his stance too, but I haven't done my moveset autism on 6 yet. Masuzoe is one too, but it's more obvious from his stance which looks like one of the traditional styles, though I don't know which school. I think it's Goju-ryu from his yama tsuki form, but I asked some guys I know who are Goju-ryu karateka and they're saying that his stance is too wide (I was shocked too).

>>14848136

Without spoiling too much, you need to give those items to a bunch of guys related to sidestories and a minigame and since there's no RIZAP or convenience stores in Onomichi, if you come there without those items you're gonna have to wait until you get back to Kamurocho, buy those items and then wait until you get back to Onomichi again.

>>14848155

>Finish chapter 2 since the original post stated you had to buy them in the first three chapters

>Surprise, it was actually the first two chapters

>Oh well, I'll make a new save and reload the one still in chapter 2

>Surprise, it was the autosave slot even though you manually saved on it, and it got overwritten to the beginning of chapter 3

I bought the RIZAP shit and I guess it just delays things anyway, but I do not appreciate the save switcheroo, game. I manually save, I expect it to fucking stick.

>>14848852

>My murky memory is to blame there.

Don't worry about it, I'm more the type to focus on the subquests later on anyway. I very much dislike the playing with the baby interruption though. I won't grace it with the term minigame.

>>14848900

Don't worry, that's the only chapter where you'll have to do that.

>>14831128

Ps4 just became the winner of the generation

>>14849688

With no real competition, that hardly matters anymore.

>>14849688

For such a horrible console to become the "winner" of a generation really drives in the point how bad the industry has become. Pissing a lake into an ocean of piss.

>>14849688

>he says weeks after sony announced they are ending support for it

>>14849810

>muh crash

>>14849811

>twenty second response time.

>(2) with his other screeching at a sonygger

<lol the industry isn't gonna crash

Must be tough, knowing your clients are going to go bankrupt within the next few years. Better pick up a skilled trade, or resort to crimelike a nigger would.

>>14849837

(You) should still start looking for employment elsewhere. Only the top brass deserve the honors of "going down with the ship." (You) can at least have a backup source of income and work.

Come on, man, I'm trying to help (You) here.

>>14849855

yeah you can bawl about shills all day bud, I don't care.

>>14849872

Then what is your thought of the state of the industry, surely you don't think it is doing well, let alone able to be steered back onto a good course do you?

>>14850040

>who tells him you can't smoke on the streets anymore

Can you really not smoke in japen? I swear people did all the time when I went.

>>14849688

This whole console generation was shit just like the last, there were no winners.

Just losers, aka, you.

>>14850347

Nigger I read Duwang. Quit your bitching.

>>14850457

Just because you settle for shit quality doesn't mean i will.

>>14850458

then quit bitching and wait or do it yourself

>>14850464

It's been more then half a year since the blu rays came out,i don't think decent subs are coming sadly.

>>14849688

>design a console without retrocompatibility for the sole purpose of selling an entire franchise again

>chimps fall for it and clap, and then wonder why they are called chimps

You are the cancer that is killing games.

>>14850107

When I went to Tokyo, I saw some designated smoking areas along one of the main streets. My guess is that smoking outside of those areas is at the very least discouraged, or illegal.

>>14849800

I don't think you know what that statement meant.

>>14849997

>Yakuza 1 and 2 worth playing|

As an emulator fag myself, both yes. 2 is my favourite and I'm not alone in that opinion. Kiwami 2 upsets me because of the way they changed certain aspects and I can't endorse it as a replacement of the original Yakuza 2. Yakuza 1 is the foundation of the series and is the Pokemon Red/Blue to Yakuza 2's Pokemon Gold/Silver and I appreciate how Yakuza 2 refined what was in Yakuza 1. While it's combat is a bit clunky and shows it's age I still recommend Yakuza 1 wholeheartedly. I think you should always play some the earlier games so that you can really appreciate the series and how it's evolved through each iteration.

>Done with Y6's chapter 3

Absolutely not Rikiya and not nearly as likeable so far

>>14851589

>that bulge

>>14849688

This fucking asshole knew he was derailing the thread with this shit.

Get back to discussing Yakuza.

Fuck.

>>14849997

Kiwami 1 can be a replacement for the first game, Yakuza 2 has no replacement and should be experienced as it is.

Well, I guess I can't be mad at Onomichi seeming empty as shit because that's clearly the point, but somehow I expected to enjoy its small town feel more. I quite like small towns in real life and this district kind of feels like a mostly normal city except with no stores. The Yomawari games did a better job of making me feel in a rural Japanese town and that shit is populated with fucked-up yokai instead of people.

The La Pente restaurant though, it's damn convincing with its french restaurant look. The house itself is clearly Japanese with minor french adornments, but the terrace wouldn't look out of place in Montmartre.

>>14854149

Did you find the bar in Onomichi yet?

>>14854154

Not yet, I've just started chapter 5.

>five posts have disappeared

Nandato?

Anyway, what are you guys' favorite boss themes? So far my favorite is Kuze's.

>>14854149

Yeah, Onomichi could have used a couple more play spots and restaurants. Overall, I feel the game could be one of the best in the series if it had more content and a bit more depth to the combat. I also wish the finale chapter took place on board the Yamato Mk. II.

That said, first time I got there, felt so comfy I went into walking simulator mode for about half an hour just to soak in the sights.

>>14854532

>what are you guys' favorite boss themes?

Lesseee

- The Grudge (Y2, Shindo)

- Rebellions (Y4, minor character bosses)

- That Man (DS, Hayashi)

- I believe in you (Y5, Baba)

- Misery Comes On Beat (Y0, several bosses)

- With Vengeance (Y0, Awano)

- Archnemesis (Y0, Lao Gui)

- The Wicked (Kiwami, Jingu)

- Bloodstained Philosophy (Y6, Someya)

- Fist Law (Y6, Yuta)

- Qui garde un secret (Y6, Hirose)

>>14854532

That's a really hard one, I think out of all of them it's a tie between Lyricism Without Tears and Receive You The Prototype

>>14854162

Eventually a bar opens up and you can play darts/karaoke and befriend the people inside. I don't know what the reward is but the bar Mama's friend bar is slow to rise so there must be something good if you do it.

>>14854844

You get an OP speargun which makes the spearfishing minigame even easier than it is. It's tied to her storyline though so you don't just get the speargun randomly out of the blue, I won't spoil what it is exactly though.

>>14854844

Just keep ordering food from Mama, then walk to the closest blue vending machine and grab a couple mineral waters to sober up Mama should be your friend in no time

>>14854861

The fishing minigame in 6 is awful.

Dammit.

>>14854966

But anon, the true reward for completing all the bar substories is all the friends you've made along the way.

>>14854089

I emulated 1 and 2 back to back, and you know what ? I think 1 is better.

Yes, 2 brought better combat upgrades to the table, but didn't really upgrade the core combat enough to be called an evolution, and added more annoying enemies. The main draw is that it adds another town and a half, the content to go along with it, and sidequests are generally more engaging. Even if one of them breaks the game in half by giving you five million yen. That's counterbalanced, however, by 2's story being about a third as competent as 1's. It's a fucking asspull-fest mess mostly based on a band of assholes having a revenge you can't sympathize with. It's salvaged by Kaoru and Ryuji but not quite saved, because Ryuji's underdeveloped and Kaoru gets thrown into the trash by later titles.

1's story was just much more solid, and as a writefag, I guess it matters to me more than most.

Well, okay, there is the fact that 1 has an atrocious dub. But I can't hate something that brings the line "Step the fuck up, it's time to die"

>>14859352

>I wonder if other enemies can do the same?

Yeah, I saw it happen a few times during boss battles. I kept hoping that doing something like that would give you a free combo or a free hit at least, but every time I attacked immediately after, I got evaded and then hit. Except for when I did it against Han, but we all know that 80% of the reason he's such a joke as a boss is that he evades much less frequently than any other boss in the game.

>>14858594

Maybe it's because I watched a pleasantly exhaustive youtube video of 3 (again, fuck the lack of PS4 retrocompatibility) but I thought the plot was coherent, if a bit less engaging than the others. The only asspull was Black monday infiltrating the CIA but even then it wasn't completely illogical, just kind of unlikely. I liked the final boss' motivation, at any rate. There's a lot of batshit crazy characters in vidya but he was merely unhinged in an interesting way. Also, that phone call was premium character arc writing.

>>14859584

I don't remember 3 too much, but the main criticism of it (besides people not liking the big part that running the orphanage plays not only in the story, but also in gameplay) is just the whole thing with the CIA niggers. The part of the story with the greatest ramifications was some sort of Okinawan deal, now I don't remember if the resort deal was the same as the one which would allow Japan to go to war which would allow Black Monday (which is just a CIA black project and the CIA proper fighting them was just an internal rivalry in my headcanon) to make a lot of money from arms dealing, but the latter is the one which Black Monday are after. They also demolish Kiryu's orphanage by involving Mine in it, that's where you get the "orphan-hating CIA niggers" meme from. To make a long story short, they make a series which concerns itself with the Japanese criminal underground too big in scope, the bioluminescent alphabet agency congoids even sends a fucking attack chopper to gun down Kashiwagi.

>There's a lot of batshit crazy characters in vidya but he was merely unhinged in an interesting way.

Agreed, I think he's the best main antagonist in the PS3 Yakuza games, though that's not saying much.

>>14859758

>everyone just comes off as a irredeemable asshole.

That's because everyone new in 3 IS an irredeemable asshole, Kanda and Okinawan Joseph Joestar in a red suit especially. Richardson too, of course. Why the hell does he have Jacky Bryant moves? Does SEGA think that backflips and spinning heel kicks are bloodline techniques of blonde Americans? I guess you could say that Mine sacrificing himself would count as some sort of redemption, after yakuza Jesus Kiryu's speech makes him realize just how much of a piece of shit he was, whereas every other bad guy lived and died as a piece of shit. When it comes to Hamazaki, he only gets his redemption arc in 4, as far as 3 is concerned he's a complete piece of shit throughout the whole plot.

>and some guy who's not even really sure why he's there

He's the final boss, not the main antagonist, that would be his daddy yakuza TotalAsscancer. I thought that whole ordeal in 5 was the second biggest asspull in the series, second only after muh rubber bullets. Also, I don't know about anyone else, but when I got to the final boss fight and saw Aizawa in a flashy suit there swaggerin' all alone in the Tojo HQ acting like he's all that, I actually started laughing my ass off, especially considering that he's dense as pigshit. At least every other character in the series whose whole involvement can be summed up as "IT WAS ME KIRYU, IT WAS ME ALL ALONG!" at least had enough brains to scheme their way to the top illegitimately, Aizawa just waited for his dad to do everything he had to do so that his little golden boy can inherit the throne. Is Yakuza 5 actually about how nepotism is bad?

>>14859867

Mine isn't so much about redemption as he is about realizing he's having a major bunch of wires loose, and that Kiryu is just so excellent a dude he proves all his delusions wrong. And he accepts it. That's why I like this dude, his arc is actually quite unique.

>>14831141

sad news my friend

>>14859968

You said it much better than I did. Before the fight it's him who thinks that Kiryu is full of shit because they have a shared experience of being orphans, which caused Mine to think that true human bonds are just a bunch of bullshit and that everything can be solved through money. Kiryu convinces him that you too can become yakuza Jesus despite having a shitty upbringing and that true bonds are a two-way affair. Mine wanted people to treat him with respect and truly care for him, but he didn't want to give anything back and after Kiryu beats him up he realizes that Kiryu is right. He really is yakuza Jesus only instead of spitting in people's ears and things like that he just beats them up.

>>14840648

to this day this picture is still glorious

>>14854861

Or you just buy a speargun from the black market before you even start and laugh at how trivial it is

>>14855107

Really love that you can only feed a cat 3 times before it walks away and doesnt respawn until you go do something else or get in a fight.

I started my boss moveset research autism yesterday and I've found out that Masuzoe has not only one heat move, but TWO and they're both hilarious and completely fit his character. To be able to get hit by his boss heat, you have to first get him in a heat state, which he gets after yelling at his goons to stop laying around, after that you have to let yourself get grabbed by a goon. There's a different heat action depending on whether you get grabbed from the front or the back.

>>14864697

>Yuta and Naoto is probably the only one I stumbled upon, it's the same principle - get grabbed.

Yup, though the double team actions of the Hirose Family boys are not unique, by that I mean that they do the same double team action no matter who initiates the grab, even if it's Kiryu when they fight alongside each other.

>>14866548

There's also Matsunaga's where whoever grabs the enemy lifts them up and then Matsunaga decks them with a punch. Tagashira does one where he does some weird throwing takedown or whatever. And yeah, the only other games which had boss heat which guaranteed hit you and didn't give you a chance to escape through QTE were Kiwami and the original. I honestly think it's pretty cool and effortlessly dodging all their cool moves make them look a bit too much like weak bitches, which works for some bosses because they're a nobodies, but not for all of them.

>>14871635

Actually, fuck I do remember now. In Y4 when you fight Kiryu as Saejima when Kiryu's in heat he can and WILL do heat actions on you, when he grabs you as he has climax heat he will do the heat move where he smashes your head on the ground. He also has his standard ground heat action if he knocks you down while he's in either normal or climax heat.

>>14871802

> roombas and drones

trick is to completely rush him. bring items that max your heat. (as well as health items). drink some of that lemon drop from the vending machine to bring that attack up. then as soon as the fight starts, turn blue and rush him with attacks and button prompts. as soon as it depletes, charge it again.

i killed him before even the first drone made an appearance.

super easy fight once you figure out its all about speed.

>>14871802

>Gold Plate

what do you think this is? bubble economy? its the current year + 2.

>>14871795

"Low energy gokudou wannabe Iwami has wasted 80 million on his failed Kamurocho coup. Millions spent on me. He should go home and make boats. SAD!"

Kiryu's just so tired of it all. He's not even gonna monologue this asshole, just some schoolyard bullying and then beat his bitch ass.

>>14871825

>when Kiryu's in heat

L-lewd…

>>14871838

>Amon

I beat him at first try in Legend (though not a pretty one), first phase I TD and charge kick him and when stuff starts showing up, I start running around, use burst then try a running kick Heat then toss some doombas at him and stay with that. This might be the first time in the series I used Heat replenishment items and found them to be a necessity because they can save Kiryu from getting snackbar'ed by kitchen appliances.

>gold plates in bubble economy

Look at this pauper! Those aren't shit there. It's actually kinda funny when you run into some guy getting mugged and he's like "Prease, I have nothing.", Kiryu steps in and beats the muggers and then the guy gives you a diamond encrusted plate.

>>14871939

>diamond encrusted plate.

what? no charcoal? what a waste…

>>14873720

>PC port incoming

wrong.

>>14874243

I pray that if any of the old gang show up, ideally as bosses, they give shlomo hell.

Majima would probably let it rip with the kike jokes.

>>14874215

>For new western fans

watch it happen

I bought all of them recently. Now I don't know if I want to start playing them because I'll spend months of my life on them.

>>14874323

If having fun qualifies as a threat to you then I don't really know what to say.

>>14874298

Yes it couldn't be they had a resurgence of interest in the franchise since the continually increasing success fueled by newcomers and veterans on the ps4 or anything. Especially with all the promotion Sony does all while helping fund the development of the games.

>>14871825

I forgot that Kiryu could do heat actions on you in 4, that's right. And now that you mention it I swear I remember Kuze doing that pummelling punch heat action when he knocked me onto the ground in 0 once, but I forgot to record it and haven't been able to find footage of it online.

>>14874381

watch it happen

>>14876045

A quick search shows me there's been several fan translation projects made but only as far as the end of the main story and most side content has been missed out. The only one I've found that claims to have translated the main story of the first one is coming from tumblr though.

>>14876035

Well I stopped playing them for now, not because they're bad, but because I don't know nip so I have no idea what I'm doing, but the games are really good. They're made by AKI (now Syn Sophia), the guys who made the N64 wrasslin' games and the Def Jam games. One really cool thing is that you have multiple styles to choose from, I think up to 20 or something like that, but you can't switch between them in-battle, you have to decide which one to use beforehand.

>>14873720

Fuckin' nice, can't wait to play unbutchered 3 with now "Fuma" or "Sunshine Orphanage" nonsense.

>>14876116

>the games are really good

That's good to hear. I've been thinking of emulating them just to see what they're like. I stumbled on to some music from the second one and it's by the same guys that did Bubble for 0, really piqued my interest.

>>14876392

meant for >>14876249

>>14878284

>And does anyone know how to unlock the last 3 videos in Live Chat?

By failing. One when you fail immediately, one when you fail at the 3rd or 4th part and one when you fail at the last 2 parts. At first I thought you could do it if you did it perfectly, but no dice, then I tried failing and I succeeded at unlocking one video, then I just tested out how to get the last 2 fail state videos.

>Get Kiwami after 0

>Only just now understand you could sprint by pressing X and that's what the temple means by dash

>Also witness Yumi fucking ruthlessly ignoring Nishiki's gift

Sure, that explains him turning into a shitheel, but I'm sure there was a way to do that job that didn't involve Kiryu's love being an utter cunt.

>>14879769

I just started Kiwami, I completed the original game. And what I meant is that in the OG, you pretty much had to wait until the end of the game to see him explain why he became such a cunt.

Kiwami builds that up from the beginning, which is a plus, but I think Kiwami could have expressed Yumi favoring Kazuma without having her utterly ignore Nishiki's birthday present and appear irredemable in the process.

>>14879860

Kiwami does a undoubtedly better job at setting all the drama between the Serena characters, because in the original, relationships come to a head without having been really set up. They are classic enough relationships the audience understands them without the need for elaboration, but they are still kind of barebones.

But again, Yumi could have been fleshed out as anything other than a shockingly insensitive cunt.

>>14880748

To be fair, it was an incredibly shitty necklace compaired to Kiryu's ring. He also hype up to be this amazing pink diamond encrusted necklace when it was just a shitty piece of what looked like bronze on a shitty chain.

>>14881271

It could have been a goddamn papier mache necklace and Yumi would still have been a cunt for not even taking it out of the box. This is fucking birthday 101.

>>14881318

At least if it was paper mache it would imply he made it him self instead of putting a 100 yen necklace he probably got out of a gacha machine into a jewelry box and then lying it was of higher quality

Yumi isn't the only one at fault here.

I know the new version of this scene gets a lot of shit, but I actually like the song. Does anybody happen to know the artist/title? I can't find fucking anything on it.

>>14879976

I was disappointed that for the last game with Kiryu we didn't get a manly farewell between those two. A last fight with Majima finally dropping his act at the very end and thanking Kiryu for being a friend and putting up with his shit for almost twenty years. But yeah, a Majima focused spinoff sounds nice, as long as it doesn't devolve into Key-ryu-Chang Memejima garbage. Have a slightly more serious Majima, probably make it clear that Mad Dog is a persona he mostly reserves for intimidating his enemies, inspiring his men, and fucking with Kiryu, his normal personality being more in line with a slightly calmer version of Zero's Majima

>>14881465

Majima was in jail throughout the whole game, I mean, what were they thinking?

He's got nothing to do with Ichiban so even if he gets out of prison….FUCK

>>14879721

>>14879802

I just finished Yakuza OG I have to agree there was little to no explanation why Nishiki went full cuntface until the very end. And all he says at the end is "you chose Kazuma over me" and barely anything else and I'm expected to find him tragic or his sacrifice redeeming? Nishiki's character makes no sense in OG at all.

>>14881271

Also, speaking of the ring Kiryu bought her, Reina also told Kiryu which ring Yumi was eyeing exactly, so he knew what he had to get for her and in the scene with the customer, it was established that Yumi would only accept a ring as a gift from someone she loved. Reina knew that Yumi was in love with Kiryu, while she was in love with Nishiki. In the end of the scene Reina tells Nishiki to buy her a ring when her birthday comes, while Kiryu can buy her a necklace, implying that she has feelings for Nishiki, but I guess Nishiki can't see angelic beauty even when it slaps him in the face.

Also, Arase ending up as a failed hitman in 3 isn't punishment enough for that cocksucker

Alright, I played a bit more of Kiwami, it's surprising how much I enjoy rewatching the cutscenes even though Y1's still pretty fresh in my mind. Maybe it's because I picked hard difficulty but you do feel pretty helpless in combat, fitting the "gone soft in prison" angle.

I got only one Majima Everywhere encounter so far, pretty much him wandering the street and being a Mr. Shakedown with an Oblivion guard's aggro. I really like the idea of his rewards being gameplay unlocks but I can see that getting tiresome in the long run.

I'm pretty confused about this kiwami actions affair though, the prison fight served one on a silver platter and said you had to select the style to go with the color the enemy has while stunned, but no prompt shows up when it happens after that tutorial.

>>14884382

>but no prompt shows up when it happens after that tutorial.

You have to unlock climax heat action before being able to use them, and I suggest you do it ASAP, otherwise the boss fights will really overstay their welcome.

>>14884407

Oh. I suppose that makes sense but I don't think that tutorial mentioned you had to unlock that stuff. Thanks all the same.

>Eventually majima has a fucking blue health bar and you just want to let him win to get the fight over with

Long boss fights are not good in these games, especially when it's a boss that can find you anywhere.

>>14884453

>there was also that thing where you could get the climax actions to do double damage, I think it was a rush full combo with a charged finisher and then immediately cancel to the climax.

That's because doing that full combo+charged hit is the easiest and fastest way to build up climax heat and if you have that ability where you do double damage if you do a kiwami heat action while in climax heat, you'd see why everyone's doing it.

>>14884793

Well, it's no real surprise Takeshi Kitano would be faithfully transcribed while the others would be adapted for the needs of the story. Guy's a legend.

I'm still at the point in 6 where he's pretending to be retarded but I'm expecting nothing but great stuff

Should I buy Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition?

It's 85% off and all I have is a PC.

S-Sorry.

>>14884941

Well, I've also been playing six up until the second time in Kamurocho, lowering my expectations, and I've been disappointed in everything but the story. The story's fine so far.

>>14876426

> Teenage pregnancy

> Why so sexual

Why are thots so sexual?

>>14884929

Please help.

>>14887090

It's not really even the same genre as Yakuza

>>14851589

MORE

>>14887177

I know, I just think I shouldn't make a thread about it.

>>14887504

Good thing there is a thread for questions that don't deserve their own threads, huh?

>>14887504

There isnt currently a sleeping dogs thread on the catalog and you'd probably be surprised how many people might want to talk about the game in general.

It was quite good.

All this Takeshiposting has made me realize one thing. I mean, I'm probably way late to the party, but now I'm pretty sure Makoto in zero is a big reference to Zatoichi, at least in the first few chapters she's in.

Hey guys I wanna get into the series, which game do I start with??? I've given it some thought on my own, rate my order:

Dead Souls > 6 > Kiwami 2 > Kiwami 2 (Japanese imported) > 3 > 1 > 0 > Kenzan > 4 > Kiwami > 5 > Ishin > 3 (Japanese imported) > Kenzan > Ishin > Kenzan > 2

>>14890491

RELEASE ORDER FAGGOT

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>>14890815

What's your lineup?

>>14890491

You'll never get the plot to 4 without playing the second PSP game neither will you understand Ishin without watching the stage plays.

>>14890815

You can replay any game for tickets.

I linked to a pretty good guide for the mini-game earlier in this thread, it also explains how to recruit the 12 players - http://archive.is/zX157

>>14884793

Amon in Kiwami has something like 18 health bars between his two phases, yeah. I think that's my favourite fight against him since the first phase is a nice straight up fight and his gimmicks aren't too obnoxious, even when he gets sanic speed on his last two or so health bars. I haven't gotten to him in 6 or Ishin yet but I love 6's version of Fiercest Warrior.

>>14890539

It's a joke anon

>>14890947

Everyone on the line up has either a green or red arrow so I figure it should be good enough.

>>14890963

Ishin's Amon is by far the hardest imo. Make sure to get really good at tiger dropping and parrying because both of his phases have attacks which can easily drain more than half of your life in one slice.

I guess Oyabun Kitano has claimed this thread as his territory.

Was going to say that I watched the first Outrage but with the downtime ended up watching the trilogy. Take the biggest scumbag in the Yakuza games, strip him of anything that could make him remotely likable and you get the cast for these films. What a bunch of assholes. And don't let the suits, manlet constitutions and pale complexion fool you because they can nig with the noggest of 'em.

The first movie dedicates a good portion of its time to all the maneuvers the yakuza and on that they do get an A+, anything can be used to turn a yen. We often hear that IRL the yakuza don't mess with civvies and all the shit that goes down is between rivaling factions but after playing the games and seeing this movie, I'm starting to think that's a load of shit. Basically, it looks like they'll turn any situation they can find or create into a shakedown. At least from playing the games, I always found a lot of those scenarios simply too believable to not be true. The second movie was the one I liked the most since you get something close to relatable characters and motivations there though you do need to watch the first to understand it, in fact all three of them are very tightly connected. Lastly, the third has some good moments but I don't know if it has any reason to exist, feels like it's just there for a bigger body count and to say goodbye to the character. In all of them, a very interesting contrast to western flicks is how little screentime the main character gets.

>>14890963

Yeah, 6's version of Fiercest Warrior is my favorite followed by Kiwami 2 and then Kiwami.

>>14890981

That just means what kind of day they're having. I really don't know shit about baseball so I can't say precise things but hitting the ball when you're batting can invigorate the whole team for a while, the longest is when you score a homer. It also might not mean shit because I get a homer, they all go red and the other team rails us sideways.

You'll soon know that Amon isn't the hardest boss in the game, Bowers is.

>Playing Kiwami

>UFO catcher quest

>I seem to remember a quest along those lines in the original but I didn't go through with it because the main story appealed to me much more at the time (my reason for getting Kiwami was mostly to get the most out of the side content, old and new, really)

>The guy clearly references the doll girl quest in 0

>He also asks for the most difficult toy to get from said 0 quest, on account of it being fucking round and a nightmare for this game

>Caught a large one? Fuck you it doesn't count

Overall though I'm feeling pretty good about Kiwami, it promises a lot of fuck around content (I especially like how they retooled the catfights to incorporate street hunting), while 6 just kinda bums me out. I saw my fair share of fun stuff and they did go all out on some activities, but entire sections of Kamurocho being cut out for "renovation" is just a dead giveaway for how shallow it is as a whole. Why isn't the Hirose bar the business instead of that clan creator flash-tier minigame that announces up front it has 32 battles total? Why doesn't the new fight ring in Stardust this game's colosseum? I want to be a good sport and like it but I just can't see the forest past the trees here.

Maybe it's because the new combat system makes the random battles fucking suck. It's fine for boss fights, but fighting goons feels so devoid of any impact and fun. Locking two thirds of heat actions behind extreme heat, in particular, was a huge mistake. Extreme heat should have been exclusively for those combo heat actions for kicking ass for less effort. Discovering new heat actions was always based on the environment and positioning, having most of them chained to a very fleeting power-up is missing the point by a continent.

>>14897170

>makes you cut your finger off with a boxcutter

Jesus Christ.

At least Kimura and Omoto become buddies in the sequel.

>>14898627

>spoiler

No shit, especially since his boss fight is with Aizawa and unlike him you never even get to fight him one on one. Though to be fair, the mainline games rarely recycle movesets for storyline bosses no matter how insignificant they are, I think even that loser security guard in 5 who gets stabbed by a pen and then attacks Shinada for revenge has a unique moveset which gets reused for generic goons in 0 onwards.

>>14898627

Yakuza 6 is basically potential - the game. It's true what minigames are there are better, and I really like the idea of the ability to enter many buildings and looking around freely, but then they slash 90% of all locker keys. This is baffling to me.

But yeah, nothing wrong with the story and cast.

>>14902844

>wanting SFM trash of Haruka

Some things are better left unseen and out of mind anon.

MesuKing is a definite improvement over the catfight club. I hope pocket circuit got a few upgrades along the way as well.

>>14902806

>Yakuza 6 is basically potential - the game

True but in its defense there are some portions of it that deliver a complete experience instead of blueballing you at every moment like MGSV

>I really like the idea of the ability to enter many buildings and looking around freely

As a exploration autist I loved it too but got disappointed with the large amount of dead ends and the fact some of the more intricate paths see no use besides some Troublr missions.

Another thing I still wonder is if the fully voiced substories were a good use of resources and I'm mostly inclined to think they aren't besides a few exceptions like PC Fighter, Sodachi and Amon who have distinguishable voice work. That new system also makes it a bit trickier to screencap some memorable lines, speeding the talks also comes off as odd and, I guess more importantly, it's a real bitch for hearing-impaired people because the text is no longer set in boxes with names on them.

>>14912632

Yeah, you get a semblance of a strategy now instead of constantly throwing what counters the enemy's super and pray for the best.

I'm still miffed they didn't make it a Rumble Roses style game. It's not like they couldn't build that up with assets from both Yakuza and VF.

>>14827497

I'm miffed they fucked up his theme. Replaced the foreboding drone of the original with forgettable rock shit.

Yakuza 1 needed remaking as it was very rough and unpolished. What the fuck were they thinking though making the hostesses a dyke and a feminist.

Yakuza 2 however doesn't need a remake. It was pretty much a perfect game. Shameless cash-grab.

Yakuza 3 had clunky as shit combat. This needs fixing but i doubt they'll even bother.

>>14916719

Having emulated 1 and 2 back to back, I just don't see where the "2 is a perfect game" crowd is coming from. It's very much 1 with more fun side content and a contrived as shit story. I am very much looking forward to Kiwami 2, both for the remake treatment, and to see 6's engine being used for a more complete and thorough game.

>>14851589

Oh hey someone saved these renders from the loli thread.

>>14887234

Nah, too lazy to do more renders with Haruka, I have this long set I havent finishing starting with her loli model to her Y5 model.

>>14902844

Like I said in the loli thread a few weeks ago, the guy who ripped her model kept her private because he knew people would use it for SFM.

Anyway, I haven't played these games but they do look fun. Should I emulate the first two games? Can I emulate the PS3 games as well?

>>14916719

The hostesses in Kiwami are complete trash. In the original, despite the minigame being more primitive, the hostesses were much better and iirc there were 6 of them. Also, 3 isn't clunky at all, the true jank is in 6 and in Kenzan. Kenzan is the only game that ever gave me motion sickness due to how erratically some enemies move. The first Majima fight in that game almost made me throw up.

>>14879769

>>14879721

>>14879802

you know what some parts of zero didnt sat well with, they completely lost the chance to give yumi and nishikis sister at least sidequest, you know the people that were the most important to kiryu and nishiki, why the fuck would brush the two of them aside with yumi given the excuse of "oh she just studying" or nishikis sister given a passing line of "shes fine" like didnt all them grew up on kazama orphanage?

also majima not giving yasuko a second thought… like at all in his segments even with the flashbacks to the aftermath of the 85 incident

>>14917812

Nah bruh, 3 is clunky as fuck and a big step backwards from 2. Heat moves are temperamental and you often have to keep moving around an enemy on the floor to get a trigger. Frustrated the living fuck out of me.

>>14917072

So you emulated 1 and 2 back-to-back and it never once crossed your mind that you could lock onto an enemy in 2, but couldn't in 1? Wew lad.

>>14918856

Nah, fratello. You get new heat moves out the ass in 3 too, some of them are so easy to do it's ridiculous, like the jumping headbutt or the drunken thrust which you can seemingly do from a mile away. The only heat moves I had problems doing are essence of terror and the knife one which also takes out 4 guys at once and they didn't make them easier to trigger in 4 and 5 either. Only Akiyama's heat move where he takes out 3 guys at.once seems to trigger regularly which also has the condition of having to run at a group of enemies.

Also, I've forgot to mention that I managed to play Kiwami 2 for a bit, namely I did the Amon fights and there is one new minigame which honestly completely takes the fucking cake as the most difficult thing you have to do in the complete Yakuza series, even if you know how to cheese it, I won't spoil it too much, but to leave you a hint why it's hard - you can't use any healing items during that minigame and you have to fight an army of dudes in the last 2 missions along with 3 special boiz while shitty Japanese nu metal plays in the background (seriously, it sounds like Japanese Linkin Park).

When it comes to the Amon fights, if anyone didn't play 2 you have to fight Jo's retarded cousins or however the fuck they're related before fighting Jo. All three of Jo's subordinates are honestly really easy, while Jo himself is quite difficult. If you've played 4 and/or 5 though, you'll recognize them as Kazuya, Jiro and Sango who are fought by Akiyama, Saejima and Tanimura/Shinada respectively. They're back in Kiwami 2 and while Kazuya hits like a truck he's quite easy and Sango is still a pushover, but Sango? Fuck him. He doesn't use guns akimbo like in the original, rather he uses and SMG and throws flashbangs at you. If you get flashed, you're basically dead and even if you don't get flashed he might still kill you because one burst from his SMG drains your life so fast you'll be dead before you even figure out what the fuck just happened. You're forced to cheese him by playing peekaboo behind the stairs behind Serena. When it comes to the man himself, I thought he was a pushover like in 6 until you get to his dual sword phase where he also has protective armor, then it basically becomes a nightmare because he's fast as fuck with his swings and he starts hitting like a goddamn truck. Overall I'd say that this is the hardest Amon in the series, even harder than Ishin and if it weren't for the stairs fuckery Kiwami 2 Jiro would be by far the hardest Amon in the series.

All I want to say is thank goodness I finally replaced my PS3's hard drive so I can finally play these games. Bit bummed out that I didn't do it earlier, especially after the announcements of the remasters on PS4, but still, better late then never. Not in a rush to pick up a PS4, anyway.

>>14902844

>tfw there is still no sfm haruka loli

Oh yes there is.

So when will we get Y7 or whatever? Apparently the new protagonist starts off with nothing so will he be the Phoenix?

>>14931296

Wow, it really fits him!

I’m currently playing through Yakuza 0 (Started with Kiwami after wanting to get into the series for years) and while the sustories and story in general are a lot better I cant help but feel the games fight system is a lot more clunky than Yakuza Kiwamis. Is it just me? Or is Yakuza Kiwami much more fluid and responsive? I just keep getting knocked down in zero.

>>14937297

>I just keep getting knocked down in zero.

Well then git gud.

Kiwami did make a lot of improvements when it comes to fighting, the most obvious being that Rush isn't fucking garbage anymore and the fact that switching styles is made much faster and more fluid. Also, since you're in 0 I'll give you a little hint, the most OP shit in 0 is the bearhug from Beast, once you upgrade all your damage even without the Dragon Style upgrades you'll do a full bar of damage against ANYONE. It's staggering how much they toned it down in Kiwami.

>>14937297

Yeah, the combat in Kiwami is more refined. There are more options for every style namely several options for switching styles seamlessly. Minor spoiler but you'll find that Beast has much less options in Zero but your damage output is ridiculously high.

>>14937297

Kiwami brought balance to Kyriu's fighting styles introduced in 0, but I can't say I share your feeling it improved much. Though, to be fair, I decided to play Kiwami on hard from the outset, figuring I got enough experience with 1, 2, 0 and 6.

>>14918922

Nah i don't mean that. You can have an enemy on the floor in 3 with a full heat bar but the triangle trigger won't appear unless you start manoevering around the enemy, and by the time it does eventually appear the enemy is getting back on his feet. That shit was fucking infuriating. It was still a slight problem in 4 but was fully fixed by 5.

>>14919002

You're obviously trolling because if you'd played the game you'd know the lock-on in the original operates completely differently to every game afterwards. The lock-on in 1 doesn't allow you to lock-on to an enemy with a multi-hit combo, it just fixes the camera so the only thing you can do is strafe around them.

>>14941683

Shifting the goalposts from "1 didn't have lock-on" to "1 had a different sort of lock-on", I see.

Even if you had a point, I fail to see how that gameplay difference makes a remake of 1 worthwhile, but a remake of 2 some kind of heresy.

>>14942596

If you actually followed the discussion at all, the problem people have with Kiwami 2 is that it uses the new Dragon engine which is fundamentally different from how the rest of the series works so they don't know how it'll pan out, if we're just talking about people being worried about combat. Kiwami 2 has more problems, like some godawful new tracks replacing iconic tracks purely because they couldn't get the license to reuse and remix them, missing substories, a whole area of Osaka missing which wasn't that large to begin with so it makes no sense why they couldn't remake it, an iconic scene ruined because they added a stupid stab sound effect which ruined the surprise of the original etc.

The combat itself in Kiwami 2 from my impression is much better than 6, it's actually complete, weapons are back and most importantly 80% of your heat moves aren't locked behind the stupid special heat state anymore since they added a lot more heat moves that should've been fucking there in 6 already. The only problem is that it's too easy just like 6, except for 2 special submissions which are impossible without knowing how to cheese them. The Jiro Amon fight would've also been probably the hardest Amon fight in the series (and it would be against Jo's retarded relative, imagine fucking that) if it wasn't so easy to cheese too.