/v/ - Video Games

>Favorite MUD?

Hell/inferno was fun, Hells grinding was to much though that shit made me wanna kill myself. I used to play some other one called criterion MUD but that was years ago.

>Whatever happened to the old /v/clan in HellMOO?

Kinda fizzled out until there where only a few of us left. Also SOMEONE killed a bunch of high level players then fucked off so they started going after us. Was fun as hell though even though we got out asses kicked a lot. Maybe I'll dump my meager OC

>Should we play again?

Sometimes I think about it but I feel like we should choose another MUD if thats the case, or not. I don't know.

Hellmoo was my first MUD, then all my friends got banned for detonating a nuclear warhead in freedom city and we switched to Hatemoo which was superior. I really enjoyed that game. A while ago I tried to get back into things and tried Infernomoo, but it's a carebear infested shithole. When I complained in public about the orphanage being replaced by a clone factory I got struck by a thunderbolt by an admin.

Don't play infernomoo

>>14816370

The glory days of HellMOO were great. As in, before zones, before throwing got nerfed, when Benaron ran free.

The setting and mechanics just clicked right. Creeping featuritis as a design philosophy somehow worked in its favor.

Another MUD might be interesting, though. Does anyone know or regularly play something besides HellMOO and its derivatives? Looking at some trackers, there really isn't that much to choose from as far as playerbase size is concerned. Wouldn't really consider anything that doesn't hold at least a 30 person average.

http://mudstats.com/Browse

>>14816403

You were not the first nor the last to do that. With the mechanics being haphazardly stacked on top of each other, there were usually many, many ways to get around any restriction. Most of which got the badministration very upset and banhappy.

Nice ID.

Oldest continuously running and developed MUD in history 1989-present:

The Revenge of the End of the Line

telnet eotl.org 2010

Whats a MUD?

>>14816533

"multi-user dungeon"

>>14816533

Lurk moar faggot.

Multi User Dungeons are basically multiplayer text adventure games that are easy to create and host.

>>14816546

I wonder how hard one would be to actually make, using some standard core. Never really delved into the hosting side of MUDs.

Building a playerbase that'd actually want to stick around while also keeping a flux of stragglers and newcomers seems like the hard part.

MUDs are reliant on communities. If you don't like the people there, there's no reason to stay. The last MUD I played gradually fell apart when a literal faggot became head admin and banned all fun from chat, destroying the existing culture almost overnight and replacing it with sanctimonious political correctness.

Hell/Inferno were pretty damn fun, way too big of a timesink for me to ever consider actually getting back into them again though.

I still love you guys, GONDO.

>>14816204

>Favourite MUD?

Wayfar 1444, which is now offline. It was based on Hell's code I think, but with resource collection/crafting and it was all about building a colony on a new planet from the ground up. I have fond memories of riding my hoverbike around, blatting things with a pair of klobbs I built myself from hard-scrounged materials.

>Whatever happened to the old /v/clan in HellMOO?

Wasn't a part of it.

>Should we play again?

Mite b cool.

Last I checked, Inferno was deader than dead and HellMOO is still carebear central. It's sad because Inferno actually had some cool new features put into it. I think the dream might be over.

>>14816559

It's not hard. I suggest LDMud driver and starting with whatever base mudlib. If you know C then learning LPC is a breeze.

My other thought is hacking some of the older muds and stealing their mudlibs to fork. As mentioned there are a few good ones it would be nice to play but have been ruined by admins/devs.

>>14821105

HellMOO was designed so that the first way new player characters would get experience and money would be by taking contracts to hunt down rabid orphans in an orphanage. Yup.

>>14821105

Well, when you just start out, orphans are among the very few NPCs you can manage to kill, and there's a repeatable job/quest to get rid of the ones who are sick. Small children in a rundown multi-leveled shack.

Add to that the fact that HellMOO has sexual verbs that can be used on just about any living being, though some need to be grabbed and restrained first, and you can see how it forms a natural barrier of entry for those easily offended.

Two of the more interesting old MUDs I played were Split Infinity and Awakened Worlds, however both had their own share of problems.

Split Infinity:

Pros:

-Classless MUD where you trained skills by using them

-Huge variety of races

-Interesting sci-fi "many worlds" theme

-Unique quests

Cons:

-literally 0 players left

-basically abandoned by devs, who also banned half the playerbase at one point

-skills are pretty horribly grindy

-most of the races were nerfed at chargen so older players had a huge advantage

-many of the quests were buggy or broken and couldn't be properly completed without the help of a dev.

Awakened Worlds:

Pros:

-Shadowrun based ruleset

-has Astral Plane/Matrix/Seattle as well as a few areas on the outskirts

-big area to discover

-has rigging

Cons:

-getting yen/karma is horribly grindy

-every form of grinding was nerfed to the ground

-small playerbase

-you can no longer raise skills/stats past rank 8 without a dev run shadowrun, which devs balance to the older players on them, making new ones useless

-RP is stictly enforced, so there's no good way to trade secrets about finding keys and such

-Some mobs are so good at stealth that its basically impossible to complete some autoruns

-characters are deleted after 30 days, making it impossible to take a break from the game without starting completely from scratch

-as per shadowrun, certain forms of combat are completely unbalanced.

Both games have interesting cores, if someone managed to hack them and steal the base, as suggested here >>14821085, but as they are, they're basically unplayable in large part due to the hands of the devs.

>>14816204

There was a /v/clan in hellmoo? What was its name?

I played for years but never bothered checking if /v/ played it too.

tfw no blind gf to play MUDs with

I just want some semi-RP HellMOO clone.

>>14822133

GONDO was the name of the corp.

>>14823053

I forgot his name, but there was this one corp leader in old HellMOO who beat up a 3 nigs gank squad on his own, and he was blind.

Actually I do remember at least there being 2 blind people playing at the same time and they were arguing over who played better and people were spamming "BLIND FIGHT! BLIND FIGHT!" in chatnet.

Good times.

>>14823129

Hades, perhaps. There were some other blind folks as well. Generally pretty cool guys.

I remember the old days when the moment someone blind was found, you'd have the goonshitte go completely apeshit to grief 'em off the game.

How hard is to make and host one of these?

I wish the goons still played. Say whatever you want about goons, it's all true, but that small sliver who played HellMOO were the real deal true niggas. Funnest times of my life playing with them.

>>14823199

It worked out because of all the infighting and the few rogue agents here and there who didn't care for their text. You couldn't just griff the scrubs and assert your will without someone coming along and dicking your shit up. Even if you knew all the opposing corps were elsewhere or mostly offline, some one-man-army would come along, headbutt-teleport you into another dimension and run off into the distance, calling you a faggot on the global channels.

Constant fights between corps, and every time one got large enough to have some dominance over the MOO, it was promptly followed by a schism and near-instantaneous implosion as everything in the corps' headquarters was ransacked, the doors left open for stragglers, with bitter namecalling for all to see.

Once fighting got severe consequences for the belligerent and greatly reduced harm for the defender, everything went to shit.

Also, new-school goons played HellMOO when I was last there, years ago. I got someone severely butthurt over my "homophobic comments", to the point where he started complaining to the badmins and trying to convince his corporation to hunt me down at every turn. This was for saying "wow gay" after he got done talking about some literal faggotry in the global chat.

>>14823190

>How hard is to make and host one of these?

Install the LDMud driver and base mudlib. Teach yourself LPC (really fucking easy if you already know C; which you should).

somehow, it wont let me create an account. anyone else running into this problem?

>>14827488

I feel that this is a design issue in most multiplayer games, not just HellMOO or MUDs in general.

Most of the interesting and fun bits you get require someone to do something counterproductive to himself, risking his gear\progress in the process for no real reason other than doing some funny shit or just plainly being a dick.

Thing is, most people don't want to risk the many hours they spent hoarding\grinding whatever gear they have, so they'll stay out of confrontations they don't have a logical reason to start with and at least 80% odds of winning.

You could chalk it off to the players being pussies, too attached to the virtual shit they got in a videogame, but then again you're basically saying "take a 10 second gamble where you can lose 5 hours worth of unfunny grind for the small chance of getting a laugh" and this doesn't seem reasonable well at all, so it shouldn't be expected to happen frequently.

Only way I can see something like this happening is when you reach critical mass of population where there's too many people involved in the equation and the chaos factor ensures something fucks up on a consistent basis, but even then it will often feel a bit stupid how some dumb shit happened and it has negative consequences in the long run. Someone betraying their corp for easy profit makes for a great story, but every corp treating new employees like shit or even refusing to hire anyone not from their Skype call or disagreement channel makes the game terrible.

This is why these games seriously need better gameplay that gives you logical reasons to compete with someone else in different areas and fields.

>>14827509

I know jack shit programming.

>>14827509

You can also just get the leak for InferMOO, install Linux and host a server, no further knowledge required expect making a simple batch file to start it.

I do that sometimes to play singleplayer with a 5 man-squad and it's pretty fun. Following people around sometimes fails a bit, but it's not much of an issue and it's neat to have 5 different characters all coordinating and using different skillsets like a real party of adventurers. Plus, less autism from other players to handle.

>>14828001

That's why you need the wildcards. The rogues. The guys who just get one or a few groups so riled up that they end up chasing them down because one man stands a very slim chance of winning against a group, yet somehow they remain oblivious or are willing to accept the risk of being blindsided by another group or just very inconvenient circumstances. I guess they just show up when the player base gets large enough.

Abominations were as close to the perfect race for this as things got. They couldn't really compete at the highest levels, but they're not particularly equipment-dependent to do damage, and what little could boost their efficiency is generally very easy to come by. In addition, they generally have enough focus to cast elf magick to disappear and reappear at a moment's notice. Headbutt and blink made for a magical combination if you could manage it.

Constant harassment of a certain variety made the game better for everyone, I feel. Just having those common enemies and spark of chaos, the chance that, at any moment, one of those dipshits could show up the moment you AFK for a few moments or are reorganizing your equipment, punting you into the sky or the necropolis railway.

At least, that's what my impression on the matter was.

t. one of those dipshits

>>14828059

That kinda sounds fun. Know where to get that code from?

I wish the anon making the MUD here didn't go off the deep end, kinda a shame. I always toyed with the idea of doing something. Maybe we can get something going, who knows.

>>14828173

I went abom toward the end of Inferno when we played, I really did like not having to worry about my text anymore, just get some drugs and go nuts. They had even added a thing where if you devour shit as an abom it would give you certain soaks, the trade off being that eating something else would change what you had.

I used to be really invested in Armageddon MUD, which is based heavily on the Dark Sun D&D setting. Intense, RP strictly enforced, tons of hidden shit. If you're a new player, though, you basically have to join this mercenary group to get regular food/water and enough training to not die fighting birds if you don't want to shovel shit or search the desert for crystals and get killed by wither players or monsters. A /v/clan dedicated to shenanigans I think could do very well there.

>>14828391

＞RP strictly enforced

0/10 and mega gay

>>14828391

Is it grind heavy?

>>14828173

heh, anyone remember GOKU? That guy was a hoot. One time he walked into the fc bar and the tender immediately suffocated him with a plastic bag, I got some nice loot that people tried to hunt me for heh

>>14828410

but what if we rp as black afro men seeking to control all moderate-sized bodies of water? It could be very lelzy

>>14828421

Name rings a bell, but I never really caught any of his doings. Just passing mentions.

>>14828559

What were you doing in the den of sexhabing?

>>14828632

He came up to me officer I swear.

>>14816204

>Favourite MUD?

SinDome, but I suck at MUDs and have no idea what I'm doing at times. So I haven't gotten very far into it. So far, I love it.

>Whatever happened to the old /v/clan in HellMOO?

No idea.

>Should we play again?

Probably not.

Bump.

I now have a serious hankerin for a MUD.

All the shit you are able to do because its all text is just great.

>>14832995

I'm curious if I'm still on any of the scoreboards.

But not curious enough to ever set foot there again. I have finally escaped Hell.

>>14833020

You're removed if you're inactive.

Some faggot stole my spot as world champion of craft, and then some other faggot stole second place. If I ever find out who, I'm gonna suck his fucking dick.

The biggest problem with MUDs, especially when roleplay-focused, is that there comes a time when new people don't show up and it's just the same people with the same mannerisms.

I joined one a few years back, played around for a year, left, and came back to almost the exact same shit with the same people and those three people who couldn't type english to save their lives still can't and english is their first language.

I shilled it on halfchan way back in the day and none of the people who tried it out wanted to stay mainly due to the incredibly desperate and cringy welcome they received, and last I checked there hasn't been any new blood in years leaving the playercount at about 20. So it's pretty stagnated.

Anyone have the greentext or a cap of the guy that got impaled by a car hood ornament or something? I'm only vaguely remembering the situation.

>>14828059

>You can also just get the leak for InferMOO

I'd rather have a stolen copy of End of the Line to be honest. 29 years worth of content and updates with a heavily customized driver/lib.

Here's an example of one skill I stole code when I found a bug in the mail reader that let me read arbitrary files:

// Soul Drain
// By Jife@Eotl WHEE!
// Formatting: Zork 6-2-96
// More Formatting: Valentino 10-17-96
// Delay stuff added and other cool, fun stuff //Guido // slight change in attack_object() by Samana 8/97 // Lessened the insane damage and made only swords and polearms work // - Guido 10/25/98

inherit AttackCommand;

#include "fallen.h"

void extra_create()
{
    set( "name", "soul drain" );
    set( "help",
         "Spell : Soul Drain\n"
         "Cost  : 30 mana and variable ftg and mana\n"
         "Usage : soul drain [target]\n"
         "Type  : Sorcery\n"
         "Minimum stats : 30 willpower, 30 constitution\n"
         "\n"
         "O Who shall, from this Dungeon, raise\n"
         "A Soul enslav'd so many wayes?\n"
         "With bolts of Bones, that fetter'd stands\n"
         "In Feet; and manacled in Hands\n"
         "Here blinded with an eye; and there\n"
         "Deaf with the drumming of an Ear.\n"
         "A Soul hung up, as 'twere in Chains\n"
         "Of Nerves, and Arteries and Veins\n"
         "Tortur'd besides each other part\n"
         "In a vain Head and double Heart...\n\n"
         "\t\t--Andrew Marvell,\n"
         "\t\t  A Dialogue Between\n"
         "\t\t  the Soul and Body" );
    set( "function", "do_cast" );
    set( "action", "soul" );
    set( "verb", "drain" );
    set( "usage", "soul drain [target]" );
    set( "guild", "fallen" );
    set( "class", "combat" );
    set( "private", 1 );
    set( "no_combat", 0 );
    set( "cost",
      ([ "mana" : 30 ]) );
    set( "min",
      ([ "alignment"  : ([ "min" : -4000, "max" : -2000 ]),
         "stats"      : ([ "wil" : 30, "con" : 30 ]) ]) );
    set( "no_rest", 1 );
}
}

status okattempt( object victim )
{
    object w;
    if( !::okattempt() ) return 0;
    if( !w = fallen_ok( THISP ) ) return 0;

    if( w->query_drain_delay() ) return 0;

    if( !THISP->valid_target( victim ) )
      return( atell( THISP, "You can't attack that.\n", RED ), 0 );

    if( strstr( w->query( "proficiency"), "sword" ) == -1 &&
        strstr( w->query( "proficiency" ), "axe" ) == -1 &&
        strstr( w->query( "proficiency" ), "polearm" ) == -1 )
      return( atell( THISP, "You must use a sword, axe, or polearm, child.\n",
              RED ), 0 );
   if( THISP->is_soul_draining() )
      if( THISP->query_drain_target() == victim )
         return( atell( THISP, CAP( possessive( victim ) )+" soul is "
                               "already yours!", RED ), 0 );

    return 1;
}

void do_cast( object poorbastard )
{
    int delay;
    string pname, mname;
    object shad, w;

    mname = PNAME;
    pname = poorbastard->query_name();

    atell( THISP, "Divinely inspired, you savagely rush at "+
        pname+".\n", RED );
    tell_object( poorbastard, mname+" spots your soul and decides "+
        subjective( THISP )+" wants it.\n" );
    tell_room( ENV(THISP), mname+" suddenly charges at "+pname+" and drives "+
        possessive(THISP)+" weapon into "+pname+"'s soul!\n", ({THISP,
        poorbastard}) );

    subtract_cost();

    if( !THISP->roll_to_hit( poorbastard ) )
     {
      atell( THISP, "You fail to impale "+pname+".\n", RED );
      atell( poorbastard, "Luckily, you avoid "+mname+"'s evil "
   "attack!\n", GRN );
      tell_room( ENV( THISP ), mname+" attempts to drain "+pname+"'s "
        "soul!\n", ({ THISP, poorbastard }) );
      return;
    }

    atell( THISP, "You take your weapon and drive it into "+pname+
      "'s stomach, rooting for "+possessive( poorbastard )+" soul!\n",
      HIG );
    atell( poorbastard, "Pain fills you as "+mname+" drives "+
      possessive( THISP )+" weapon into your stomach!\n", RED );

    w = THISP->query_weapon();
    THISP->add_prop( NoBlockP );
    THISP->add_prop( NoDisarmP );
//  poorbastard->take_damage( w->query_max_damage(), 0, "unholy", THISP, w );

    // this just seemed to work well
    delay = random(THISP->query_skill("soul drain")/15) + 1;
    poorbastard->add_combat_delay( delay );
    shad = clone_object( SoulDrainShadow );
    shad->sh_init( THISP, poorbastard, w ); }

If you can understand this you should just install LDMud and start modding the generic library. My problem is I've seen "race.c", "room.c" and "door.c" and there's no fucking way I'm writing those from scratch. It would literally take years for one person to do.

>>14832995

Holy shit, are you still playing inferno?

have you achived the dream of living entirely on semen?

>>14834005

ye

ye

>>14834019

Holy fuck, Kat.

>>14834063

thx u fampai

>>14833498

End of the Line is shit, though.

i really, really miss hellmoo/hatemoo. i played inferno with GONDO for awhile but the fact that you couldn't buy motorcycles and could only craft them really bothered me, since i always make functionally useless characters with the sole intention of simply riding motorcycles or flying helicopters. it makes me feel completely insane to admit it but i had a blast just driving my motorcycle across town, crashing along the way until you don't suck at ride, and ferrying people around in tiltrotors so they can go have adventures while you keep the engines warm for when they're done being heroes

>>14828059

There are 5+ bugs in the leak that let a programmer elevate himself to wizard level edit permissions. If you recruit programmers from the public do an audit of the code first.

>>14834141

>End of the Line is shit, though.

It's not. It just had badmins. If I had a copy I would run an 8/v/ port, and if anyone else bothered to learn LPC I could promote them to wizard (admin).

It's the oldest continuously running MUD for a reason, and that reason is it's actually fun. I would spend more time playing there but I recently had ~10yrs worth of characters deleted for "cheating". Which basically means I pissed off an admin.

Anyway I don't want a pissing contest over which shitty barely populated or barren MUD/MOO/MUSH is the best.

Star Conquest axed their clan system because the players were not playing with the obvious admin alt characters enough.

I just want a semi RP HellMOO clone. Do people ERP in InfernoMOO?

>>14834209

i swear to god that wasn't in when i was playing. welp, i'll probably make another dude later tonight

>>14834211

You might be thinking of Hell. I don't know what the state of bikes is there, but the store is Inferno-only, I'm pretty sure.

>>14828421

Fucking lel.

That guy gave me the best introduction to HellMOO anyone can give.

>be newbie fresh out of the orphanage

>no idea what the fuck am supposed to do

>GOKU shows up and says he will help me

>gives me a pill to buff me

>eat it

>immediately pass out

>wake up in his house, in a closet

>he rapes me

>takes a picture

>shows me an album full of his rape victims

>locks me in and tells me that the only way out is to smash my head on the door

On that day, I knew I found something magical.

>>14834019

>ye

God dammit, maybe I'll see you on tonight.

>>14834319

ye ye

>>14834327

You posted this before, didn't you? I've seen this story here, not in the exact same words, but possibly in the old HellMOO general.

>>14834341

yes. i also told a story of how i annoyed some bikers in my apartment with my motorcycle and they beat me to death in my own home

>>14834345

I've seen that one twice also, once in the generals and once a couple months a go in either a MUD or MMO thread.

>>14834332

Has Inferno had much new content added since back when GONDO was around? Was Hepcat ever brought back?

>>14834403

Spaghetti did something absolutely pants-on-head retarded (I forget what, it was egregious abuse of his wizard privileges for something incredibly petty) and got permabanned, and the other progs either left or got banned with him. There's no one to code for the MOO now.

>>14834583

Are they actively looking for coders or is it still a circlejerk only thing?

>>14834602

lol i dunno

No but really, it's not the fart-huffing, perpetually anuspained circlejerk the admins in Hell had. Send in an application or just ask on zotnet.

>log in

>character still there

Guess its back to trying to rape sandworms

>>14828415

Yes.

every time I think I'm out, I get that tug. I might just start a new character.

I could swear when I played with GONDO we were playing on HellMOO and not InfernoMOO. What's the difference between the two?

>>14834818

We were, there was a lot og guys moving from Hell to Inferno at the time. Also the grind is waaay the fuck down.

>>14834822

Cool, I'll try it out.

>>14834818

>>14834825

Hell is pozzed carebearland, with much less development (at the time) and a faggy userbase. Inferno (at the time) had development nearly every day, a decent userbase, and the grind is incredibly reduced. You can get 300k xp in a week or two, tops, whereas the same accomplishment in Hell takes 999999999999999999 years.

Inferno is the objectively better game, but dead population last I knew.

>>14834836

You people keep switching and saying that Inferno is carebear land and Hell is the cool place. I don't really give a fuck about PvP. I just wanna find a semi-RP experience.

>>14834836

I was told it raises and falls.

>>14834845

I prefered Inferno for the less grind and had more fun with it. Both have had their share of faggotry.

GONDO anon reporting in, no I don't want to play again.

>>14834845

People joke that Inferno is carebearland and SJW because they removed orphan rape and murder sprees, changed the limit on lowest player character age to 18 instead of 13, and switched a few things to have gender neutral terms (eg "deliveryperson" instead of "deliveryman"). When people call Hell carebear, they're referring to a mechanic the game has called "carebear" that basically made you PvP immune, and the game's PvP system being rebalanced to generally discourage and punish PvP most of the time. Basically, when people call Inferno carebear it's ironic, when they call Hell carebear they actually mean it. They're both shit, just in different ways.

>>14834876

I see. I guess I'll just play HellMOO again.

>>14834893

I think I logged out in my own apartment to avoid getting raped while I was offline. All that shit is probably lost by now.

>>14834900

I woke up in a cube, I think I was in my apartment when I last logged in.

>>14834893

You better not piss in my drug closet. Also I'm rerolling on inferno now, I personally like the less grind.

Also MEATBAWL DID NOTHING WRONG

>>14834887

>>14834893

yeah, rip

By the way, I dunno if you quit early, but we moved from Hell to Inferno eventually. That corp has been dead for a few months longer.

>>14835001

>griefing at least one newbie

Was he ever really griefing? I can't recall. Killing someone a single time is not griefing, which sounds like what they banned him for.

Regardless, he still did nothing wrong.

>>14835001

>>14835034

I think we're talking about different situations here. JUNK and the JS HQ are both in Hell, and to my knowledge he was never banned from there. The admins on Hell let kelli and 4blunt2time0 run amok because they're lazy as hell (and they were both banned eventually for being massive chode swallowers, just after we left).

>>14835098

Ah, right, Meatbawl got banned on Inferno. I had forgotten that he even came to Inferno. It's been so long that my memory is slipping.

>played for a bit

>no other gondofags

I am saddened

>>14839879

Inferno? Anything new and cool? dead population?

>>14839890

I guess the pop rises and falls according to different people, its kinda low right now but I'm sure some more would come sniffing around if more faggots showed up.

I know some mutations got worked but I'm not sure about other stuff.

I forgot how to view the boards for it

and everything else

>>14839909

who're you, faggotino cappucino

>>14839935

Jagger, I'm not on right now though, if you pop on I probably will

>>14839909

>I forgot how to view the boards for it

I do that as well erry time. Always gotta reread the help files for the dumb mailing system

Wait a minute.

>on all day

>log off for two hours to go do something else

>boo hoo no one is on

How did you log on exactly and only when I wasn't there?

>>14840038

As with all things I do in the MOO, I am made of fuckup.

I used to log on every so often just for the orphanage. I got terrified once because I thought one of the NPCs I was playing with was a player.

>buy sick motorcycle

>ride around for a bit

>crash doing 23 points of damage and die

wew

>>14840038

>>14840053

GONDO reunion when?

Does anyone still have that Coldsteel edit for Meatbawl?

>>14842091

NOW

We got 3 fags on.

Can we revive it?

Reading all these stories makes me want to play it.

>>14841406

Reminds me of CHILL, at least back in the day. Maybe a dozen people online around the clock, eleven of them idle for hours or days. You inconvenience the one guy who's online and suddenly they all come around for just a few minutes to try and murder you.

>>14827509

Is that better or worse than evennia?

Someone better write an OP just in case we start playing again.

>>14844151

We just bought another corp hq for the time being.

>>14841471

There's tools for admins to take over NPCs, so it's possible that's what happened.

Revival?

Well I have 6 weeks vacation in 9 days.

>just get cheap ass corp hq

>already shit, vomit, and piss on the floor

also

IMMA GET DAT DICK ALV

>>14845790

>already shit, vomit, and piss on the floor

Again? I scrubbed the HQ clean just a few hours ago. You people can't keep anything clean. We need a new Skane.

Bramp.

Reminder to stay away from infernomoo unless you dislike free speech

>>14845790

I figured out you can go to the cube landing so good luck fucking my body now that its not just sleeping on the ground.

Also I've been fucking clones in the meat factory to grind out the stat. I hope there isn't any way for people to casually check to see how much I've been using fuck.

>>14849267

You have to buy the skills in inferno, no grinding needed.

Also Kat has the highest fuck if you are ACTUALLY interested.

>>14849267

>grinding

>in inferno

This isn't Hellmoo. Unless something has changed since we used to play, you grind for XP and money then you learn skills using that XP. If you grind, it still costs XP (unlike Hell, where grinding skills earned you XP for every point), so you're just wasting your time.

>>14849321

>>14849689

wtf does it mean to raise a skill's raw then and is it something I want. Is that only a thing in hellMOO? I can still grind my fetish points out so I guess it isn't entirely pointless. I've been reading their wiki since it has a lot more info so information contamination is a risk. Also I've noticed this game is a strong mental imprint for something that is almost entirely played through text.

>>14850956

>strong mental imprint for text

this is actually the entire reason i love and miss MUDs and text adventures. when you need to use your imagination to picture the scene, you're making a scene that is 100% relevant to you as an individual, as opposed to say a cutscene where you only give a shit about a portion of what's going on

>>14850956

The "raw" score of a skill is the amount of points invested in its base total, while the actual total also factors in the one or two stats that contribute to that skill.

In Inferno, grinding skills is entirely pointless because it costs the same amount of XP to just learn raws from a teacher. In order to find which teacher you want, go outside of Ammunation, and go one tile to the west. Here you should find a "teach-finder" or something like that.

Examine it, and it will tell you the commands to search for which specific NPC will teach you which skills. You then go to the relevant NPC, and type "learn <skill name> from <NPC name>", and you can spend your available XP on skill raws.

I suggest raising your main weapon skill to maximum first.

>>14851031

>I suggest raising your main weapon skill to maximum first.

Also, the maximum raw score in a skill is 15, while the maximum raw score in a stat is 18 (you have to go to a gym and use the gym-o-matic in order to spend your gym IP. The vast majority of characters will raise reflexes to maximum as their first stat, so I suggest maxing that first at the gym).

This will probably take you a good while before you actually max your main weapon skill or your reflexes stat (possibly days, since you're new and don't really know the efficient ways of gaining XP quickly, which is perfectly fine).

>>14851049

>The vast majority of characters will raise reflexes to maximum as their first stat

Unless he's using fists. Almost all weapon types rely on Reflexes and another stat to determine their skill level, but fist weapons use Brawn and Endurance so he might not want to raise Reflexes right away if he is.

also fuck it, i created a new dude on inferno, who do i page for drugs/corp membership

>>14851101

I'm on, page tokarev

>>14851049

>>14851031

Whats the outlook on maxing everything? Is it possible or is there a cap? If there is a cap, how many can I max and how many should I raise as much as possible?

>>14853278

>Whats the outlook on maxing everything?

I don't think there's a cap on XP, but you'd need some crazy autism and an absolutely insane amount of time to max all skills. A few million XP at least. For reference, most of the highest XP players in the game are mid-300k's, and there's only a single person over 400k. Raising stats is based on "IP" which you get for reaching certain XP thresholds. I don't know if there's a limit to it, but I'm around 100k XP and I've maxed two and have a third about halfway there.

My personal favourite is Lost Souls, despite how empty it is and how mich of a circlejerk the mods can be, and how much of a grind the game could be. It has so many unique ideas that it makes it all worth it.

>reroll from gunsbecause kinda boring for now

>dide the ride meme, was pretty fun

>going to park my bike in to vault and spam rev once in a while

>new player feels the call of the bike

>pass it on to him and its many gps cords, happy it will get a nice owner

>10 minutes later messages me

>I got some bad news man

M-muh baby.

>>14854087

Biggest thing to get used to is the syntax and movement. Also wrapping your head around the map and areas and getting used to the in game maps. Just leik, jump in.

Lads, I'm Namnaeco, please don't hurt me kay?

>>14854272

Join GONDO fag

>>14854272

Someones gettin buttfuked when I get on later.

>>14854087

Yeah, just jump in. We're all playing inferno right now and it actually has a pretty noob friendly mini-tutorial. You'll get used to the basics soon enough and from there can apply that knowledge to any other MOO you might play.

>>14854216

>syntax and movement

Syntax is annoying and a bit inconsistent. Movement isn't so back if your mud client lets you map directions to the numpad.

>>14856017

We're on Inferno and unfortunately the gay admins replaced it with a more kosher clone shack

>>14856078

>Kosher Clone Shack

w-what? and i'm retarded i saw the post stating that a few posts above, thanks though, dud

>>14856298

Even without wanting to rape the orphans, I think the clone shack is far less interesting and the raised player age takes away a certain lord of the flies appeal I appreciated about Hell.

>>14856329

i can understand this, wanna hit HellMoo in a few, then?

>>14856385

>>14856385

oh? how so? dumb question what's stopping an Anon from making his own HellMoo/InfernoMoo rip-off? if he wanted to borrow things from each "game"?

>>14856408

The big thing is that Hell is an agonizing pandemonium of pointless, horrible grind, which is much less severe in Inferno.

Another thing is that Infernos development only essentially halted about a year ago, while nothing has really been done in hell since Gilmore's tantrum a gorillion years ago.

>>14856512

well shit, that sucks, i dunno what else to say

but lord of the flies cyberpunk sounds fucking amazing, seems like something you'd wanna try at least once, grinding's never fun, here's hoping some Anon with skills will make his own version of HellMOO/infernoMOO

>>14856574

Just like, try inferno. Its fine nigga

>>14856574

It's a minor thing, really. Inferno is overall better. You could just play inferno and pop into hellmoo to fuck orphans when you want.

>>14816639

>I do kinda get a hankering for a MUD again

Right, I'm about to start playing again just because I've been watching all this chatter about them this week. Inferno time, fresh start.

>>14857606

Jagger I will find you and rape you.

>>14856189

That worked back in 2008

Oh yeah newfags to the corp. Once you need money and after you beat up crack addicts its probably a good idea to get some invasion contracts done. Doing the chud invasions ones will be some good xp and money to help get get some skills and equipment to die and lose.

>>14859448

Wew lad thats not a bad idea.

>>14858786

>play all night

>where is everybody?

The body tires.

I checked out Hell last night and it was still the same carebear shit as usual. Next to zero updates and mostly just typo and bug fixes, the retarded challenge system is still in, and full of sexhaver faggots.

> inferno wiki out of date as fuck

Im about to start working on it. Im about to start working on it, its missing a bunch of mutations like the fat Bastard one anf the new movement mutation.

>>14860485

It was pretty out of date when I played in 2016, and it doesn't look like it's been updated at all since then.

>>14860485

Add Namnaeco and say he is the coolest guy in town.

>>14862640

There are a multitude of people who play Hell solely to ERP and sexhave. Years back, the goons termed them appropriately, griefed them endlessly, and brought us to this state of affairs with the shitty challenge system that discourages pvp of any sort so heavily that it's all but dead. Back in 2010-11, it was so fucking bad that you'd find fursuits of all kinds and other RP items laying around goddamn everywhere, but the admins cleaned up that gay shit a bit. Just a bit though.

That's part of the reason inferno is infinitely better.

Should I create a character just to ERP with Kat?

>>14862704

As long as Kat can still so science stuff sure.

>>14862704

It might encourage her to get on more so go for it. As long as you don't mind the loli vampire of mental illnesses busting into your sexhab dungeon and demanding counseling at gunpoint all the time.

>>14862754

>on every fucking day

>take one Sunday off and even log in to check and there's no one there

i can take my 'tism hoard and make a billion voxguard diamonds for myself if you prefer

>>14862909

oh yes abuse me mommy, i've been bad

>>14862997

get on and free me from my hot tub jail reeeeeeeeeee

>>14863006

i busted a nut on your face before blowing my own head off with a shotgun while sitting beside you on the couch. what the fuck else do you want from me

>>14862704

literally who?

>>14828559

>not deleting this faggot out of existence the moment he mentioned he wants to fuck you

>>14863701

>inb4 he meant filming a bunch of messed up stuff and giving them to Dick Rammage as pornos

>>14863729

how the fuck did this shit get past captcha?

>>14856408

>what's stopping an Anon from making his own HellMoo/InfernoMoo rip-off?

1. Getting the base

You do not want to start from scratch. You may think you do, but it's an illusion. You need the current codebase to even start due to how much crap exists in there and is already done.

I actually have the leaked copy of InfernoMOO that's a bit outdated, maybe. I'll see about posting it later

2. Understanding what you have

I have dicked around in Wizard mode for the sake of exploring the game and I don't mean just seeing areas or items. There's a lot of tools and commands available to wizards to properly manage the game (and a fuck load of joke verbs, like summoning flaming dogs to attack someone. I'm serious).

You'd likely need most of these to administrate the game and more to start contributing to it, plus all the proper configurations you need to have in place.

My local copy for instance doesn't really work with the e-mail sytem since I never bothered with it, I just use the admin account to create my player accounts, but this would never work if you were to host the game.

3. Find some coders you can trust

This is likely to be the most difficult part. You need someone that won't abuse his powers as Wizard\Programmer, so ideally you want someone that's not interested in moderating. Then you also need someone with a lot of free time but interested in programming and creating content. Usually, the ones most interested are the less skilled and the more skilled have no interest.

Finding someone that meets all 3 requisites is quite hard but without it, you won't get decent content free of problems.

4. Actually learn how to code for it

From what I saw, you basically edit stuff in-game with their own parser. Linux users might have an easier time dealing with it, but there's a lot of dependencies and tools that you need to work with if you want something that works. Despite seeming like it's a simple language to learn, the whole of it makes it quite a daunting task to learn and work with.

Basically, you'd have to provide an incentive for someone to work with that mess. Money is out of the question, you'd never be able to afford the headache that is dealing with all that. The only thing left is leave coders do their own thing as a passion project while making sure the server stays populated so there's someone using what they write.

For instance, spelunking around the code, I saw some economy module that seemed pretty much WIP and limited to about 4 NPCs. I'd really like to expand and implement it but there'd be no point if there wasn't a playerbase to use it, after all.

If anyone is feeling like hosting HateMOO, I could upload the files and explain how to setup the whole thing (once I figure out how to use the email system)

>>14863896

Never flew a plane since I never got that far and skate > plane, but isn't there already aerial combat? How usefull\useless are planes right now?

Last I checked, they could work as mobile bases, with Cyberdecks inside and everything.

>>14863738

>>14863740

What was that?

>>14863904

Verbs for plane combat exist but I'm not sure they even work and it sure doesn't ever happen. Planes are pretty much only transportation for the people who have shit focus and for whatever reason don't want to pick up the flight mutation. I guess they still work as mobile bases, though you can't live in them anymore.

>>14863911

I want to dogfight NPCs in the skies and get text money for it to buy better planes.

>>14863911

Well, there were some SS13 servers hosted by people here but SS13 can't keep people around for long due to it's format. HellMOO can potentially hold out longer.

If anyone hosts it and gives programmer tags to anyone interested, it could work out as an 8chan server for a chan community and a sandbox for programmers to add stuff into it.

With the proper amount of autism, you could easily surpass the previous servers.

Then again, it'd probably be easier to pick up Unity and start working on a text-based multiplayer game instead, but I'm not so sure what the market for that would be.

>>14863933

There was a plane that could have several rooms inside of it and I think you could put workbenches and containers inside of it. As long as you could @sethome inside, it could in theory work as a base of operations. Of course, you'd probably lose everything inside if you crashed the plane…

>I want to dogfight NPCs in the skies and get text money for it to buy better planes.

This is weird since there are chupacabras in the skies, so you'd think there'd be mobs or planes that you could fight as well.

>>14864008

8MOO, when? or would it be H8MOO

>>14863885

You may as well, the worst that could happen is nothing is done for it.

Can someone post skills? I'm on my old character and I want to know if he's worth keeping, but I can't tell if I have a few high skills or nothing notable.

>>14864291

Post then and we will tell you

>>14864291

>Can someone post skills?

Yes, someone can.

>>14863896

Same, but with boats. Boating in hell and inferno is surprisingly fun. I enjoyed it a lot in hell, but it was nearly useless. Boats were prone to crashing, fairly expensive, only had a very small number of places they could get to, and usually slower than even walking. Aside from getting to some places you couldn't fly to, they were useless. And then inferno made boating work like some sort of fast travel system where you can just instantly dock at any port, for some reason, without even needing to sail there.

>>14863933

>I guess they still work as mobile bases, though you can't live in them anymore.

Boats are the same in Inferno. I was so excited to buy a yacht and use it as a mobile base, then I found out their doors don't bar like homes and HQs do (and at the time, aircraft doors would bar too), and unlike planes the areas law enforcement and security don't do anything about someone breaking into a boat and they have no security of their own. iirc you can't even install security systems or traps in them. You can't even bother storing items or gear in them because they're a pickers best friend - an easy target with no security, no risk of getting wanted, and that they can be reasonably sure won't have anyone in it. The only upside boats have is that if you store them, people can't steal them.

>>14864593

>the dude's malformed foot is way more attention-drawing

That's the joke.

Let's suppose that someone was to make a multiplayer text-based game in Unity. Since it's mostly just strings and very basic images, the performance from Unity doesn't really matter, especially since most of it would be on the server.

Now let's say that it's done in C# so anyone can edit the code, has the ability to load assemblies and other files so you can easily add content by dropping a few files in it's folder and it lets you host your own server or even play single player.

Essentially, a MUD but with some QoL upgrades to it like a better HUD and controls since they can be custom-tailored for the game you're playing.

Would you pay 10$ for it?

>>14864747

>Now let's say that it's done in C# so anyone can edit the code

I've been a part of a number of community-coded projects that coordinate on gitlab and I can say that it gets very spaghetti.

I just want a MUD that can load JPEGS and other pics for added immersion.

>>14864747

depends on how much content its got. In theory, because it all text it should be complex and have a lot you can do.

>>14864768

Usually, that happens because the project grows beyond what it was envisioned to become. As long as you have a strong starting base, you're okay.

>>14864793

Well, yeah. That's the advantage of making a dedicated client to a specific game. You can have a much nicer HUD that lets you see images for the places you are around in or for the characters you see.

>>14864824

My reasoning is that, if I was to do something like this, it'd have to feature some deep economy and city infrstructure as well as really neat AI. Obviously, doing that in 3D would take a ridiculous amount of time, but in text form, it would be fairly easy to do.

>>14866148

Will you have cybernetics? Not bad

>>14866148

It sounds nice, but I think most of the HUD stuff should be optional to allow customization.

>>14866381

I actually started this with the idea of making a "universal launcher" that would let you connect to a server and download whatever files they set up for the players to give you a HUD, images and sounds as required, like connecting to new maps in Quake.

However, it's a bit too much when all I want is to re-create HellMOO in a better engine and with an inproved setting, so I'll stick with that.

Obviously, it's to be released open source.

>>14866409

I was thinking that augmentations in HellMOO are quite simplistic compared to mutations, while mutations overall could be far better.

So what I'm thinking of doing is have every mob have it's own limbs and organs, with the possibility to replace them with mechanical or mutant parts instead.

All augmentations\mutations would be side-grades that come with it's advantages but also with disadvantages and maintenance costs, so the more powerfull you are, the more flaws your oponents have to exploit and the stronger your base economy you need to have to sustain yourself.

Augmentation would be the generic cyberlegs and cyberarms that give you increased strength, but also cybernetic eyes, brain, sensors, hearts, etc. Eventually you could become 100% synthetic, becoming a different race all together.

However, mechanical parts have maintenance every now and then to stay in top shape, they take far more abuse to break but are harder to repair than organic limbs and the eletrical power you need to power all this would help to balance it.

Mutations would mostly be limb-based, lab-created and actually be fairly complex. For instance, you could have a leg mutation that makes you run faster, but requires a specific chemical to work above normal capacity. So now, either you engineer an organ that produces said chemical out of regular nutrition (thus increasing your metabolism) or you need to ingest that chemical as part of your meals. Mutations could also be upgraded and tiered like augmentations, higher tiers letting you do far more with them or disguise them as regular limbs instead.

The cloning pods would obviously have to work a bit differently, acting more like reconstructor units. If you die, your body is rebuilt at one of them, including the mechanical parts and every mutation you have.

However, every extra part beyond human has an extra cost based on the materials it'd take to produce it regularly. If you're using a public reconstructor, the amount is deducted from your account automatically, but if using a private one, it has to be stocked with the materials required to rebuild your body.

If you can't pay or don't have the materials necessary, you're still reconstructed but with worse parts than what you had before, putting a set back on you until you can sort it out, although any reconstructor would be able to restore you to your normal state as soon as you got the money\materials for it.

I was also considering actually splitting the psychic abilities into it's own section of the game for brainy characters to use, requiring dedication (and thus feeble bodies) to reliably use several different abilities there, possibly letting normal humans have a bonus to this.

>>14866643

>all I want is to re-create HellMOO in a better engine and with an inproved setting, so I'll stick with that.

orphanages included?

>>14866736

I want the orphanages. I want to be able to tie up and kidnap NPCs. Or pointing a gun, threatning or scaring them so you can demand they do something for you. And that they not only remenber you, they remenber all their friends and what you did to them. And especially that they are fully aware of everything you can do in the game.

I want to code AI that lets you be a sick fuck because it recognizes when you behave like one, tries to fight back if it can and reacts aproprietly if it can't.

>>14866777

shit, yes i hope the sickfuckery isn't limited to just NPCs and players can kidnap and rape eachother

>>14866877

I'm gonna be honest, one of the things I think about when someone mentions corporations is to make something ala Section 9, where a few players form up a squad and are sent in dangerous missions around the whole place.

Obviously that the best method of transportation would be by plane and parachuting, especially if planes can be stocked with several apparel to help the team on the ground.

Although, I do know what you're specifically talking about, dog fights on the sky against other planes.

Honestly, I don't know why this is even an hard idea to implement. A plane is basically a mob but with internal rooms for the players. As soon as it's on air, it moves around based on the inputs of the pilot and should be able to enter combat against other airborne targets just like normal combat happens, dodge and feint being replaced by air maneuvers, powerattack taking the form of locking on target to increase the accuracy of missiles. Even their weapons could mostly work just how player weapons work, but you equip them when it's inside an airfield.

I wanted there to be multiple cities, not all of them in friendly terms, and obviously you'd have to fend off assailants before you could aproach their specific area to drop off someone or just land. Air superiority could also play a role if bombardments are a thing. Imagine being able to drop bombs on FC, causing multiple explosions on the streets at random, or if you have a proper jet with decent software and missiles, you can actually lock on a specific player outside or a building.

Boats, I'd probably go full Black Lagoon with them. They're essentially more fuel-efficient planes to travel around a lot and set up temporarily anytime you go underwater or just want to move somewhere fast or haul cargo around. Cars\Bikes would be restricted to roads and wouldn't carry as many things\people\equipment.

>>14863885

>If anyone is feeling like hosting HateMOO, I could upload the files and explain how to setup the whole thing (once I figure out how to use the email system)

Please do, anon. For posterity's sake if for nothing else.

>>14867271

Will we ever get battleships so huge that they have many rooms inside and shit like artillery cannons and anti-air cannons? It would be neat and kind of a counter against planes at least at the sea

>>14869199

not him, but let's take it slow, vehicular combat in general sounds fucking awesome but babysteps, too many plans on the plate aren't good

>>14870839

Web-based? What's that?

>>14871011

he means like in flash or something on your web browser

>>14869007

Alright, I'll dump it later. Let's see if someone bites it and actually hosts HateMOO for the local autists. I mean, how bad could it possibly be, right?

>>14869199

Sorry to break this to you, but IRL it's actually the oposite. As soon as planes made it on the ocean, they made boats and ships kinda obsolete since they could sink them so easily. Ships only have a place now as heavy and sustained artillery or for heavy transport, plus low-fuel spending compared to planes or even to transport planes.

But being a videogame, shit obviously has to be different. Planes and boats could easily differentiate from one another in 2 major factors that dictate their roles easily: permanence and efficiency.

Planes are fast and go to more locations than boats, but they can't stay airborne for very long, or carry as much people\cargo\weapons.

Therefore planes are for traveling somewhere and coming back fast, carrying only a small amount of people or cargo and perform pinpoint airstrikes against specific targets. Boats instead can stay longer in the same place (no fuel just to float by) and can be considerably larger, so they can act like FOBs and provide far more sustainable artillery if needed, as well as letting you transport a lot more people\things if you just want to ferry merchandize around.

I'd still make boats be quite weak to planes, 1-2 torpedos and you sink. But I'd also make exceptions, like transport planes with bigger cargo but less weapons or destroyers with anti-aircraft guns.

But who cares about all that shit, submarines is where the fun is at

>>14870755

I unironically like GURPS. Gotta see what they have for vehicles but I foresee autistical details, judging from their cyberpunk segments.

Although, I really don't see what's so hard about having a mob that can attack and move like every other mob, only it has a few tiles\rooms inside of it where mobs\objects can stay and enter\exit at will.

I want to add vehicles to help traveling around and will probably make some tiles that take longer to cross than others, like road tiles, where a vehicle helps a lot more to travel around.

>>14871108

The joke is that GURPS vehicles 3e (4e currently lacks real rules for vehicles that aren't space ships) is what gave GURPS its bad reputation as being math heavy. Though I actually those rules arent bad and could work for something like that.

>finally raped a sandworm to death

I need more and bigger foes to rape. Next are treemen and then? Who knows!

Maybe Caredog.

LPMUD or bust. I think Two Towers is still up.

>>14865234

>>14865389

WITHOUT specialized clients you could do something like base64 encodes. Serverside you'd have the ability to limit the number of bytes/size of messages using it. Throttle spamming and such.

Clientside you could COM or whatever into any image viewer you wanted. I know at least zmud had COM plugins. I'm sure there's better IPC in this century.

Finally able to kill chobos without issue, just need to improve my damage output. Raw score for blades is 5 at the moment, maybe I'll get it to 6 tonight.

>>14872407

Took a while, he arrmor was pretty tough. But them soaks I got for eating him was Awesome.

i butt-raped joey in corp HQ and would do it again.

Fuck the cubes tbqh, this is awful. Its been 2 hours and I've only lost about 10 stars and still have about 40 to go.

>>14876142

>when you realize you've been going the wrong way

>when you try backtracking and get lost

I'd kill myself, but I bet that would make everything worse.

>>14875277

I've done the same myself but with EMP while trying to get past the ghost mom in Gangland.

Makes me think that explosives might be an interesting skill but dunno if you get XP for killing things with it, though…

>>14876142

>>14876291

I've heard a guy managed to exit the cube using Fuck Machine.

He'd basically wank for healing and eat his own cum for sustenance to survive.

Is it actually like the movie and you can see numbers on every exit to check for prime numbers, as well as trigger a trap by throwing a piece of clothing to the next room?

Because considering you have internet, that'd make the trip far easier, as long as you start with a shoe.

>>14876573

>Is it actually like the movie and you can see numbers on every exit to check for prime numbers, as well as trigger a trap by throwing a piece of clothing to the next room?

No, it's loosely inspired by the movie but mechanically different. You have a 'navigate' command where your character will examine the numbers on the wall and try to figure out what room to go to next based on the Science skill, but it doesn't actually tell you what the numbers are. You also start nude and there are no items in it anywhere, so you can't check for traps. Fortunately it also doesn't shift around constantly. It would probably be more interesting if I had a better science stat.

I watched the movie while working my way through it, too. It helped make it more interesting.

You earned the 'gleaming the cube' XP award!
[ You earned 1000 XP! ]
[ Your clone has been updated! All skills and experience saved. ]
Tokarev's silver wristpad beeps: Ayo, hol up
From your wristpad: A Mysterious Voice pages, 'You have earned your freedom of this place.  Use your time more wisely in the future.'

>the game bullied me for wasting all this time breaking out of the cube

It was worth it. I have no regrets.

InfernoMOO leaked files here:

https://mega.nz/#!bhRFHQBQ!1veJhc-kiMBoykoDG2Nq33rVWUTstpR6ZoWDWOtLIEw

Some explanation as to what to do about this shit:

First of all, get Linux and run it there.

Inside the ZIP, there's a folder with the game and a file used to actually run it. You should edit this file and put the right directory based on where you put the folder with the game, since you'll obviously not be "user".

Then you simply run that file in a terminal with "./infermoo" on the same directory. It will appear stuck and it takes a while before you can connect, but eventually you can connect to 127.0.0.1 with whatever client you prefer to join up.

That file is currently using a database named "ownhell.db" inside the game folder. If you want to reset it to how it was when it was leaked, just copy the "inferno.db" file (so you have a backup) and rename it to "ownhell.db" or tweak the files to use whatever name you want.

It's set up so it will save over itself whenever the server hits a checkpoint and there's also a log file for those that care.

To actually play, there's an admin account you use with "co Wizard BRINGDARUCKUS" to connect and have Wizard privileges.

Because you'll likely not be able to use the email system to register new accounts, you can instead use "@make-player" to create an account and then "@new-password" to set it's password, then just login with it.

It's useful to keep the admin account on another tab since, if you want to close the game but have made progress since the last server checkpoint, you can type "@dump-database" and trigger a checkpoint immediately. Then just wait a few seconds until it says it's done and you can close the server until you want to play again.

You can also dick around as a Wizard, see all the extra commands, cheat money and XP to a character if you want, but it's much more fun to play the game as normal.

I honestly don't know how outdated this actually is, but it's mostly everything there. You won't have more players unless someone feels like hosting an actual server, but you can multi-login and use the party system to hang around with multiple characters.

I'm currently doing a tri-party of a blades\gun tracker, a brains medic\crafter and a fists\focus futanari, helps with combats, lugging shit around and keeping the game interesting, especially if you implement good triggers to control the extra characters from the main one.

>>14879930

>/v/moo is now possible

truly this is the greatest timeline

>>14880002

Not unless anyone can actually code, unless niggers just wanna go on misadventures

>>14880112

>>14880112

some Anon in the thread is apparently diddling the code, this may help him diddle it more

diddle

>>14880112

Depending on the type of server you run bugs can go from "spams error" to "crashes server with no survivors." A lot of them weren't even built VM-style and were just straight up compiled C programs.

Honestly lads, HellMOO is a former shell of itself and is currently run by a 16 year old tranny and two 40-year-old, power tripping furries. Just do yourself a favor and stay away from HellMOO. It is a grindy mess and full of butthurt babies (carebears) who dislike the core of HellMOO (pvp). I do recommend you at least try InfernoMOO though.

>>14880373

but lolis, dude, lolis

Which one of you faggots is naoki/somnus's alt?

>>14880373

Well, with that leak at least there's the chance of hosting a chan server for a different kind of playerbase.

>the core of HellMOO (pvp)

It might be the core, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily well done. In my view at least, it suffers from the same problems you find in games like DayZ and similar.

PvP is crucial to make the game interesting since otherwise there's little to do besides grinding otherwise (HellMOO isn't that bad here, though).

However there's not that many reasons to engage in PvP. If it's someone's gear you want, your time and resources are better spent crafting it yourself or buying it or helping a corp mate crafting it. And if you have the stats to beat someone in PvP, you likely don't need his gear anyway since you probably have better.

This leaves "bragging rights" and "bantz", which is actually a good reason but you never win anything tangencial for it despite risking your text. I know you're not supposed to care about your text, but the idea of "you can risk gear that took you a few hours to gather in a 3 minute fight for the chance of gloating if you beat the other guy" doesn't sound logical, interesting or even sane.

Now couple this with the fact that, if you were to still find some reason to engage in PvP despite all this, it would never be in your interest to make it a fair fight. You'd never risk your text or just risk losing if you didn't knew the odds were heavily stacked against your oponent. Which means you probably won't engage unless the fight is actually boring and pre-decided.

This means mid-level characters going after low-level ones, or high-level characters going after mid-level characters. You just never have any incentive whatsoever to make PvP fun and interesting for everyone, which in turn means that nobody else in the server is ever gonna give you a fun chalenge. They'll either avoid you or gank you with odds you can't mathematically beat.

Basically, there's no sane reason for a fight, especially one that's actually fun and interesting. Nothing in the game mechanics helps this (on the contrary, the power gap between players just makes it worse) and it's up to a few players to be dicks for the hell of it, otherwise nobody will make the game interesting because they have no reason to.

>>14880426

On that note, I won't defend the carebear system as a good idea, but I'll say it's a logical continuation (if terribly implemented) of this.

Nobody really cares much for "regular PvP" since most of it isn't that fun for them so better do away with it, keep only "consensual PvP" because if both parties agree to it, than it's far more likely that it's a 50/50 fight or at least fun for both.

Of course, like all forms of automated moderation, it can be abused and we go back to the original problem of players having no reason to use things in an interesting way if they can instead use it to improve their odds and "win".

>>14880426

>>14880455

Do you even grief? Nobody gives a shit about whether or not the mechanics of pvp are fun, engaging, or rewarding. It's all triggers and scripts anyways. The fun part is tears, either your own or your opponents.

>>14880804

Is it storytime?

>>14881749

also how do you get separate windows running? i've been wanting to do this for awhile but never found out how

>>14881188

those are some really tasty digits

>>14881845

wtf what program are you using to connect?

>>14881867

notepad

>>14881867

Is there not a server list? I think I might actually be retarded and also lost

>>14881882

nigger. okay. follow along with me

>install MUSHclient

>open MUSHclient

>File, New World

>Enter inferno.optiquest.org for server, 7777 for port

>once connected follow on-screen instructions to create new account and new character

>>14881882

Yeah, you're probly retarded and also lost. The "server list" was a website called mudconnector. Maybe some of the clients have builtins too, I don't know anymore.

>>14881931

>>14881937

My brain hurts

>>14881761

You need plugins for it. If you're using Mushclient: place these two scripts in your plugins folder (MUSHclient/worlds/plugins), then create two new worlds named "Inferno_Chat" and "Inferno_Radio". Both worlds should have "TCP/IP Address" set to 0.0.0.0 and "Port Number" set to 4000. Open the plugins menu (File > Plugins on the menubar, or Shift+Ctrl+P), add Inferno_ChatRedirector.xml and Inferno_Radio.xml, and enable them both.

If you're not using MUSHclient, then you'd need to either write or find and modify a script made for your client.

https://ghostbin.com/paste/myzqq Save as Inferno_ChatRedirector.xml

https://ghostbin.com/paste/wgsf9 Save as Inferno_Radio.xml

all of this shit looks really cool but I'm a dumb and lazy faggot, how do I get into this? Is there still servers/people playing it?

>>14882411

There is exactly one thread of people still playing.

>>14879930

>Then you simply run that file in a terminal with "./infermoo" on the same directory.

There is no "infernomoo" or "ownhell.db" in the directory. Trying to do what the "help!!.txt" file in the directory says doesn't work, either. "inferno.db" appears to be empty.

>>14882411

Download a client of your choice. I think most of us use MUSHclient. Then you connect to whatever MUD you want to play through the client. If you want to play Inferno with us, you'd put in inferno.optiquest.org as its address and connect on port 7777. For MUSHclient, you'd do this by clicking "Create New World" in the File menu, putting in the info, saving it, then opening the world you made.

>>14883009

Mudlet > your shit.

>inb4 manlet jokes

>>14883172

I use mudlet and its pretty easy to use. Most of the different output boxed niggers use are for Mushclient

>>14884038

Yae kick that pinko faggot out

>>14884038

Some guys on there asked to join up, it might be them

>>14884038

Thats pretty clearly horseplay.

>>14884038

>Frankenstein

I still got your copper wire and loads of crack nig

>>14884105

I think Pinko had the "good night alt right" message up because he was grinding the racist hunter job.

Invite me niggers I've been abusing dogs for roughly 4 hours straight

>>14884763

Whats your name?

>>14884038

I'm glad I triggered domeone enough to post a screencap.

>>14884797

You are gonna get ganked son.

>>14885978

Probably ip hopped with my vpn, but I wanna fuck Trace's mouth SO HARD and teach her a lesson.

t. ntag

>>14881990

Mind posting those to pastebin? The links are dead.

Anyone got a list of the available drugs and their effects?

Also can anyone teach me how to do the double screen fuckery for chat again

>>14889523

Mudlet or mushclient?

>>14889556

Mush

>>14889556

Mudlet

>>14889556

Mushlet

>>14889578

lmap use mudlet faggot

**From what I remember it was relatively simple. I think it was just installing the script and editing the corp filter

http://hellmoo.wikia.com/wiki/Scripting#Corpchat_Filter**

>>14889585

https://forums.mudlet.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3163

It's pretty straight forward, to install just paste the lua lines into the command line of mudlet where you usually write shit like 'c I'm a faggot rape my face' and then make your triggers.

>>14889626

What does mudlet have over mush?

>>14889844

just a cool name

>>14889556

zmud. I never really considered it as a kid but I bet it'd be real easy to write up a decent mud client. Maybe that'll get me back in the game.

>>14889844

It works natively on linux

last i played mushclient it didn't have a good scripting system but i know gammon got huge into lua at some point. What's mudlet got for scripting?

>>14891809

Lua. It runs lua natively. If you don't want to write actual lua code, it supports triggers, aliases, timers and the like through a simple GUI.

>>14891950

Ah well lua's great, I actually learned lua some years back and was super suprised to find Mushclient man being a serious reference for that shit. I wouldn't recognize his name in 2018 otherwise.

>>14891757

I use mushclient in wine on linux because I hate change and don't want to learn to use another client.

>>14892167

>type in client

>it goes to the server

????

>>14892285

>type in elaborate non-portable scripts to hax and play for you

>can't leave this client ever again

>>14893439

if you think that's good you should have seen the song i wrote about jagger. i was laughing about it all day at work and i'm actually genuinely kinda mad that trace destroyed it

>>14893651

Sing it for me.

i cant get to cheers because Abom, Caredog will smash me with a gamma fist

I have spent over four hours trying to get vampire and my luck just keeps getting worse and worse. I just died to fucking boozer twice in a row. God damn it.