/v/ - Video Games

Old timey PC simulators will give you a HUD to melt your face.

>>14815491

I remember playing helicopter simulators back in the day and those used every button on the keyboard.

If you turn off all the assists in il2-sturmovik you won't be able to actually get the damn plane off the ground.

>>14815494

That's a fair point.

>>14815494

Playing DCS Black Shark blind with no manual was the most fun I've had with a flight sim.

>>14815545

I can't comment on dwarf fortress or tactics ogre, but Disgaea doesn't have shit on Front Mission in terms for complexity.

And I consider FM to be pretty simple game compared to Fallout Tactics.

Unlimited Saga was pretty maxed mechanically for an rpg. There was a tutorial series on youtube that was roughly 100 parts. It was no wonder the games manual was criticized upon release. I really liked the game for its confusing nature.

>>14815553

>It doesn't even have shit on Front Mission

>Fallout Tactics is even more complex

I had no idea it was so complex, I have to play this now.

Steambot chronicles.

Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead

>>14815436

Yakuza maybe? The range of shit you can do is pretty staggering and the narrative is either intensely serious or overblown silly.

mainline pokémon in the current year, it has tons of mechanics but you don't really need to know much about many of them to beat the game

>>14815436

Fallout tactics is fucking garbage, fuck off.

>>14821435

Go be a nigger someplace else. It's not Jagged Alliance 2, but it's a perfectly serviceable game.

>>14815436

He was not alone.

>>14821447

>it's a perfectly serviceable game.

Not even close.

>>14821458

>>14821458

got any points champ or are you just being a nigger?

>>14821464

Not him (if you cant tell from the id) but it's linear as fuck compared to the other Fallout games. It ruined what made Fallout great.

>>14821506

JA2 is a repetitive slog of fighting through the same generic, flat areas with always the same objective: kill everyone. It's a combat simulator, there's no semblance of level design or mission design.

>>14821506

>but does it have the level of interactivity FT does?

If you install the 1.13 mod get ready for extreme levels of autism and about five pages of AK variants alone to purchase. Though I'd first do a vanilla playthrough because the amount of changes the mod introduces are massive, and even though it's fully configurable if you haven't played the game you won't have much idea what you're doing. But yes, in general you can do stealth in JA2, you can equip your mercs to suit different playstyles and roles, there's a bit of a management mechanic going on as you have to train local militas in towns you capture, as well as keeping the airport and gold mines safe from enemy counterattacks.

Jagged Alliance 2 has less narrative "meat" that Fallout Tactics, but makes up for it with a much more robust and memorable roster of characters you can hire. The story is nothing special but you get to topple a roastie and her cuck underling.

Also, get the Equilibrium mod for bugfixes and rebalancing and play Silent Storm as well if you're looking for more turn based squad tactics.

>>14821594

Well shit I remember blowing up houses in Silent Storm, but it didn't impress me as FT did.

Maybe I should have modded it.

Grand Strategy Games?

>>14824639

The only one I might consider to have depth is Victoria 2 and that's because of the pop system, even though most of the time you don't even need to pay attention to it.

Star Control II

>>14824631

What's the point of posting it every single time if it's defunct?

Nobody could play it now even if they wanted.

>>14824917

>That's just what an actual plane HUD looks like.

I know, but videogames usually really dumb down this kind of stuff.