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69d195 No.14754279
>this thing hasn't called it quits yet
I'm honestly surprised. I figured the devs would throw in the towel or else nu-Valve would whack 'em with a C&D by now considering how much of a clusterfuck the early months of this project were.
53de48 No.14754288
>>14754279
>yet another half life mod/remake
How boring.
ddbc34 No.14754301
>yet another Half life thread
There SHOULD be only one in the catalog at a time, you know.
175b78 No.14754303
>>14754288
This project is about making Epistle 3 into a game.
d3af97 No.14754305
>>14754279
>nu-Valve would whack 'em with a C&D
Nu-Valve is okay with Hunt Down the Freeman. Why would this be any different?
175b78 No.14754307
>>14754303
Forgot to add, this looks like they are using Unreal 4.
8aa336 No.14754310
>>14754279
>nu-Valve would whack 'em with a C&D
>People develop your IP for free while you're clearly aren't.
>You still get to sell it on steam full price.
Yeah I really wonder why valve is letting them do it… [/sarcasm]
175b78 No.14754311
>>14754305
Valve got paid $100k to let them make it, and then make more money on whatever sales it actually managed to get.
c2ecf8 No.14754323
>>14754311
>Valve got paid $100k to let them make it
What the fuck are you talking about?
175b78 No.14754327
>>14754323
The Hunt Down the Freeman devs negotiated for a Half-Life license to make the game. I believe there was even a crowd funding effort but I'm not 100% certain at the moment just from memory.
c2ecf8 No.14754346
>>14754327
>The Hunt Down the Freeman devs negotiated for a Half-Life license
What the fuck are you talking about?
Valve simply does not give a shit, they never negotiated anything, why are you pulling shit from your ass?
The Hunt Down the Freeman retards and his team of underpaid retards made an Indiegogo and bought bots when they got 800 dollars to shill their garbage on Steam Greenlight and Jewtube.
Why in the fuck are you stating they paid 100k to Valve?
d3af97 No.14754360
5afb93 No.14754415
>we want to make people suffer by implying we can make best HL3 and then jew them.
I want to destroy modder's and Valve office with crowbar.
3d1369 No.14754420
>>14754307
>fans aren't even using valves own engine to remake a valve game anymore
OH NO NO NO NO
175b78 No.14754426
>>14754346
>>14754360
There aren't any hard numbers floating around because of NDAs and shit but it's generally known that if you want to sell a Source mod instead of giving it out for free, you need to pay Valve about $35k for the license to the engine. If you want to sell a Source game and have access to the Valve asset repository for the engine (which is where a bunch of recent unreleased Half-Life 2 content [including some Episode 3 levels] have leaked from) then you need to pay them about $50k. If you want access to the Half-Life IP itself, you're going to pay at least $50k but most likely more than that, $100k is a safe bet.
69d195 No.14754427
>>14754307
>Unreal 4
Oh great, because the Chinese Jew hasn't squeezed enough shekels out of the West yet.
175b78 No.14754429
>>14754420
>remake
Episode 3 is out? Where can I download it?
c2ecf8 No.14754474
>>14754426
>Implying they paid for any of that
They blatantly stole assets from Valve games and others IPs, Source licensing shouldn't be more than a few hundred dollars considering the pricing is done per company and the team is small and they're not using the Half Life license just like Black Mesa does not use the Half Life license, stop pulling shit out of your ass.
Valve doesn't give a shit and these hacks paid Valve their mandatory 100$ and that's about it.
Just like this piece of shit did https://store.steampowered.com/app/399120/Prospekt/
d38138 No.14754517
>>14754279
Damn, these guys actually sound fucking competent. They have an actual fucking workflow.
How come its these autistic community mod makers that have the most competent developers while most AA teams are a complete fucking mess?
175b78 No.14754525
>>14754474
Getting a Source Engine license got more difficult after 2016 due to the previously mentioned asset leaks from people like that guy making Prospekt. He might have got in cheap but because of him and others those who try to get a Source Engine license now have to pony up more cash.
41b37c No.14754529
>>14754427
I'm starting to see a spike in Unity-tier U4 games being shat out. I've read the engine itself even has problems with multiple monitors. What the fuck has become of them?
d38138 No.14754540
>>14754427
Only 40 percent of Epic Games is owned by Chinks. Which to be frank is way too fucking much, Doesn't the United States Department of Defense still have an Unreal license? If they still do they frankly shouldn't anymore. It's really fucking sad to see one of the greatest game engines ever made devolve into fucking Battle Royal cash grab shit. Never let the Chinese touch your software.
922d22 No.14754543
>>14754517
Idk anon, i have a few reasons why tho like not having a looming deadline over your head or having a publisher breath down your neck.
d38138 No.14754550
>>14754543
Sometimes deadlines are the best motivators though. I too be quite frank are one of those people who need deadlines to get shit done. Even indie devs working for free set deadlines for themselves sometimes just so they can push themselves to meet a goal faster.
922d22 No.14754556
>>14754550
Ah i see, now that i think about it if im doing something and i enjoy it id only stop if i had a headache or not feeling well, I'd try to finish it asap but i do realize the importance of deadlines.
5eae9c No.14754561
>>14754525
Bullshit, these scam artists wouldn't pay a grand much less 100 grand.
Don't be fucking retarded, think for 2 goddamned minutes.
175b78 No.14754582
>>14754561
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/sdk/uploading/distributing_source_engine
>For any Source Engine game that charges money, Havok needs to be paid a licensing fee of $25,000 for the physics engine. You will need to pay this fee up front before making your game available for sale on Steam.
Also the head dev of HDTF said on a live stream when he was attempting to croudfund the $100k that $50 was going to Valve for the engine license, which makes sense because then Havok would get $25k and Valve would get $25k, an even split.
175b78 No.14754590
>>14754582
Obviously that was supposed to say $50k not $50. You get the point.
b0ff02 No.14754617
>>14754540
The DoD uses Unreal engine to develop combat simulations.
d38138 No.14754626
>>14754617
They should switch to another engine now that Chinks almost own half of Epic. Doesn't seem to be much alternatives though unfortunately. Unless they made their own in-house
089140 No.14754627
Porting existing assets, adding some pretty fucking rough weapon animations and showing off some really generic shit whilst saying how pretty everything looks in Unreal 4 does not a game make. Using a different engine is a big problem, and not just for getting player movement down. Every weapon, every enemy, every sound, every interaction, has to be rebuilt for a new engine. Do you think these guys are competent enough to make enemies that are fun to fight? Are they competent enough to create intuitive and engaging levels that aren't full of clutter because muh pretty unreal 4 graphics? Does a standalone Unreal 4 fan project even have that wide of a potential playerbase compared to a source one?
My general rule of thumb with anything like this is that if they start making announcements and showing content before a substantial amount has already done in order to prove the competence of the team and viability of the project, i.e. having a playable test level, even if art assets are incomplete, then the project will either never finish or be shit. From what I see, they have achieved very little for such a big project and expect praise and attention for it.
175b78 No.14754654
>>14754561
>>14754582
>>14754590
Quick clip of him talking about the licensing fee, in conjunction with the Steam page mentioning paying at least $25k for Havok alone, means that it's pretty conclusive that people do need to shell out some cash if they want to sell their game. This means Black Mesa, Prospekt, HDTF, and whatever else.
Some YouTuber claims to have paid the licensing fee for them since the indigogo failed so hard, but now he doesn't want to talk about it because it was a disaster of a game.
>>14754627
Time will tell if they are competent, but they aren't porting assets, they look like they have been made fresh.
5eae9c No.14756502
>>14754582
>>14754654
>>14754590
>You actually have to pay a 25K fee to Havok to use an outdated game engine that's going to see a new updated release for free
Jesus christ
Nice finds, I actually checked that partner page before but didn't catch that Havok bit since I stopped reading after not seeing any pricetag on the licensing fee question.
175b78 No.14756542
>>14756502
The 7th gen brought about the era of free/cheap game engines for better or worse, before then you either had to make it yourself or shell out a good chunk of cash to get an existing engine. $25k to Havok just for physics was probably peanuts compared to what a AAA studio would pay for something like Unreal 2 I would imagine. It's also probably why Demon's Souls used not just Havok physics but I think it was the full blown Havok game engine they used, no doubt because other options were more expensive and little old FromSoft in those days couldn't afford something else.
06832f No.14756779
>>14754654
>if they want to sell their game
The ability to sell fan content should not be taken as a given. It's Valve's intellectual property. The original Black Mesa release was, and always will be, free. People looking to make a quick buck off a dead franchise they had no part in building need to go the fuck away.
5b9782 No.14756878
>>14754303
As if that fanfic Laidlow wrote was any fucking good.
9f66ec No.14756989
>>14754311
>Valve got paid $100k to let them make it, and then make more money on whatever sales it actually managed to get.
Do you fucking retards actually believe Valve cares about a $100k bribe? They make that in a day.
ed8ebb No.14757037
>update three
well at least they know how to count higher than 2.
6861fd No.14757157
>>14756878
It really wasn't, another cliffhanger and an entire game that didn't answer any real questions about HL's storyline.
69d195 No.14757173
>>14757157
Basically this. Mark Laidlaw can't fucking write, Valve made a huge mistake giving him free reign on Half-Life 2, no wonder the whole game and its episodes are all uninspired, hacky crap.
a86b83 No.14757201
>>14757173
Posting this message I've posted a thousand times before again
683acc No.14759350
>>14757173
Not to mention they needed to add a bunch of bullshit characters that apparently had some attachment to Gordon, instead of just introducing new people who didn't know who Gordon is.
God the story was always fucked.
175b78 No.14761082
>>14756878
>The official writer for the franchise that was at Valve for like two decades or something
>fanfiction
Anon please, I know it hurts, but at least it's some kind of closure.
117742 No.14761667
>>14757157
>cliffhanger
I’m fine with this and I can see why he would do this: the Half-Life series is just about Gordon Freeman (the player) doing contracts for The G-Man across time and space (basically the Prey sequel that never was), making cliffhangers would remove the need to connect these “contracts” with some unnecessary story. But the whole thing breaks apart because for some reason G-Man takes Alyx and leaves Gordon to death. What the actual fuck, Mark? You’ve been shilling this whore to us since Episode One but what so fucking special about her that Gordon can’t do?
69d195 No.14767705
>>14761667
>what so fucking special about her that Gordon can’t do?
Nothing, seeing as Gordon basically fucking does everything in these games.
It's really fucking annoying, one one hand Valve wanted all these new fuckers to be super-important story figured but on the other hand, they wanted to partially preserve the "one man against the world" feel of the first Half-Life so we ended up with this horrible mish-mash where Gordon is a one-man army that is somehow still subservient to these other fuckers. What I can see is a bunch of lazy idiots who by some miracle managed not to accidentally kill themselves before Gordon showed up. What the game wants you to see is these super-special hero figures.
It almost makes me feel like there were some sane people at Valve who probably also thought that Mark's story was retarded, hence this tug-of-war.
59dcfe No.14767846
>>14754288
>there are millennials on this board, right now, who haven't been playing modded HL2 as their sole fps for the past 10 years
59dcfe No.14767854
>>14767705
>what's so fucking special
>gordon is nothing
>it's really fucking annoying
>super important story figure
Imagine being a child antagonizing a player insert character because he resents the comparison
5f7086 No.14767885
>or else nu-Valve would whack 'em with a C&D
The Source SDK license says you're allowed to make any mods with their IP, so long as it's free. The only time they'd be able to C&D a dev team is if they were actually selling it. There's also an "enterprise" version of Source which comes with the actual source code for the engine instead of just the SDK, and it lets you sell games without the mod label. It's how games like Hunt Down The Freeman got made without any C&D.
f511fc No.14772465
>>14757173
Laidlaw is a great writer you fucking brainlet.
dbe428 No.14778672
>>14754279
>Thinking that Valve would C&D them even though they let Hunt Down the Freeman Happen
wew
4fa123 No.14779631
>>14778672
The irony would be hilarious.
a8006b No.14791712
>>14779661
Valvecuck please leave.
681ab0 No.14791969
40c8e7 No.14792298
>>14754279
>inb4 they hire them and release it as hl3
261cea No.14792360
>>14754279
>pumps the shotgun
>looks like he is moving the entire gun forward, instead of just pumping the pump
Is this supposed to be comedy?
681ab0 No.14796667
>>14792360
It's no worse a concept than the AR2. If you're a gun nut you shouldn't even be looking at Half Life in general.
a87382 No.14796720
>>14754279
Project Borealis!?
At this time of day
At this time of year
Developed entirely on UE 4!?
681ab0 No.14796739
e18f0f No.14797138
>>14754288
Half-life mods/remakes have literally been the best FPS for the last near 20 years faggot newfag.
>Natural Selection
>Black Mesa
>Counter Strike
>Gmod
>Prop Hunt
>TTT
>Zombie Master
>NeoTokyo
>Afraid of monsters
>Research and Development
The entire gaming industry has not been able to pump out as many good FPS as fans have been with the HL1 and 2 engine.
4fa21d No.14798716
>>14754550
Not when the deadline is impossible and every 2 days the higher ups promise everyone some more new shit that you wont have time to implement and were not consulted on beforehand.
a86b83 No.14798904
>>14796739
And you call it Project Borealis despite the fact that the Borealis is obviously a really empty plot device?
681ab0 No.14803768