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Strange Journey Redux got leaked early, have fun

>>14746843

the gameplay should still be fun shouldn't it?

and adding in 1 retarded character can't ruin the entire story can't it?

>>14746843

Did the remake fuck up the game balance or something? If the only change was Alex then I don't mind, Strange Journey is easily my favorite SMT game and some faggot OC bitch can't bring down the solid exploration and gameplay that the original has.

>>14746847

I played the jap version and beat the first boss.

The fact that they now have health bars ruined the ENTIRE game for me.

Not to mention the giant "Fuck You" of a change in artstyle.

>>14746847

According to an anon in previous threads she's the daughter of Lucifer and Space Marine who went back in time to kill (You) so you tell me.

>>14746852

The game is easier with some changes, from what I remember from the JP version it's harder to die.

I wouldn't mind seeing stuff from The Book of Mormon as demons.

Is this that game where you have to kill your daughter or nuke Boston?

>>14746904

She leads to the 3 new endings, basically the true chaos, law, and neutral endings

>international smt when?

Never.

The reason why SJ bombed and is now coming packed with a waifu bait is because it wasn't set Japan and local, autistic fans boycotted the game because of it.

>TFW Imagine is dead

>TFW no SMT augmented reality phone game where you fight and befriend demons around the city

>>14746937

Huh. I never knew that. Was it only because of the fact it wasn't set in Japan or were there other factors at play?

>>14747032

Just the first one.

>>14747134

I'm not shitposting, you braindead retard, everyone knew that years back on /smtg/

>>14747134

Apocalypse had fanservice DLC?

>>14747032

Were talking about a group of people who burned books and sent threats because, secondary media implied a character wasn't a virgin in some garbage show

so yes, just the former

>>14747492

I see SMT has went or nearly went the route of Fire Emblem in recent days

Here's hoping V isn't hot garbage.

>>14747910

I'm hoping that Atlus never remakes a game again.

>>14747910

Only time will tell anon, but i hope it's not garbage as well

>>14747910

It is shitty DLC, but I never understood why that illusion made my Mephistopheles is given more attention than what Dagda does if you choose the best route. He gives the player a character of his choosing to make as the MC's waifu.

>>14747910

Given how terrible the writing is in 4A in general, I don't put much stock on it being good.

>>14746952

Private server is coming along nicely, has up to act 7 I believe but is still missing a looooot of features. There's also the shitty chink version but thats so laggy and out of date one of the open beta versions I think to give you an idea I don't think its worth the effort.

>>14747910

>the company that keeps putting in remakes with waifus

>the company that keeps retroactively removing the artstyle the games that they were founded upon

>the company that made a dancing style game and set it up so that it is pokemon style red and blue version

>the company that is developing a game where all the previous and current characters meet like retarded fan fiction

>the company that is making an anime of the game, make the animation shit, and most likely will make a second anime

>the company that did all of this with their previous game that got popular

>the company that "released a trailer" which wouldn't even confirm the artist of the game which defined the series with its unique style pretending like theres a chance it could be kaneko but with obviously be Doi

> most likely will continue to retroactively ruin lore and monster designs of the original series

don't hold your fucking breath

>>14747997

Don't forget the shitloads of Day 1 DLC.

>>14746952

SEGA is actually making this. Its veing shilled on Facebook like crazy. Its called Dx2 Liberators or some shit.

>>14747143

Everyone in /smtg/ is a blithering retard, they always were, even before the exodus. Kill yourself.

>>14748265

I thought that was just a regular mobileshit that just happened to use actual models ala Tales of The Rays.

I really need to get around to completing Strange Journey. I don't think I ever learned how to play it properly though, because the neutral route bosses are kicking my ass.

What games are worth playing after this one? I was thinking of doing the mainline entries in order.

>>14749668

>private servers can never replicate (though I do appreciate them).

are there actually private servers for imagine?

>>14749698

See >>14747955

>>14746824

>Chemtrail turning America's frogs gay

Kek.

>>14749783

What's the story with this Satomi guy?

>>14759556

You playing on expert mode or whatever? The original didn't have that, right?

>>14759632

>Save points everywhere

There were just 2-3 per floor, but it was just in Antlia.

>every 3 steps is a hidden demon who gives massive exp and UMA to sell for 3000 macca

They didn't give exp.

>getting spammed with life stones and revival beads

Just normal/recovery item formas.

>with phys res armor, space muhreen becomes a massive tank and dont give a fuck about crits.

It didn't worked like this in original.

>The original didn't have that, right?

Yes, it didn't have it.

>>14759556

The original game is perfectly playable today, I don't know why they even bother adding these features that make the game easier. QoL stuff shouldn't sacrifice difficulty.

>>14759817

No shit.

It looks like something that fujoshits schlick to.

>>14759556

I was wondering why I had a ton of UMA items that were worth 3000-4500 macca in sector C, I thought that maybe I had forgotten something about the game. Also:

>sub apps that keep the game from ending if the MC dies/stoned

>>14760014

>sub apps that keep the game from ending if the MC dies/stoned

That's gay.

They could just add accessory that made you immune to getting stoned.

They might have casualized a bit, but is it completely ruined?

Is it so neutered I can't just ignore the retarded parts, like not using the save rooms that weren't in the original?

Already stole it so I might as well play it.

>>14760341

There already was one, I think, you get it in a sidequest late in the game

>>14760354

>like not using the save rooms that weren't in the original?

If you're willing to do that, why not just play the original? Genuine question, I can't see any reason why someone would play the newer version

>>14760368

I'm a tard who can't figure out how to put DS games into my 3DS

Also I really don't want to install another emulator.

>>14760354

Supposedly the original endings are now treated as 'bad ends' which is fucking retarded in the context of SMT.

>>14760368

>There already was one, I think, you get it in a sidequest late in the game

I think it failed sometimes.

>>14760410

Essentially Alex is the key to the "True" endings for each of the alignments, I guess if you're a lawfag you'll enjoy that the true law end isn't completely inferior to the other 2 now.

>>14760560

get those soyboys outta here fag

I had to stop in my SMT IV playthrough halfway through because my 3DS got fucked and it sucks

its really only very challenging for the first 15 hours, and then drops off afterwards for the most part outside of those brutal optional bosses that can 1HKO you and occasionally a boss that's rough

I actually liked it though, but you'll find most people here don't and for good reason.

>>14760540

Sounds like the remake could've been better without her.

>>14761607

Post the rest of the interview please

I'm playing 4 right now. And nothing, god did nothing wrong. Mikado is safe and happy. Tokio brought the demons on themselves. Walter became the child of carnage because of a caste system that god din't approve of. Now to protect mikado god wants to blow up tokio. It's all logical. Perhaps i have yet to see the other side, but i'm about to kill lucifer with the charriot, so am i not at the end?

>>14762985

>I'm playing 4 right now

Why bother playing the worst smt?

I want to give Soul Hackers a try, has 3DS emulation improved to the point where it's playable?

>>14762970

Sweet, thanks anon this shit is the stuff of legends

>>14763579

worst SMT is still a game worth playing in my opinion, hilariously enough

>>14766637

>not having a hacked 3DS

why?

Citra is kinda iffy its a game-by-game basis, check it out for yourself

Been kinda feeling like playing an SMT game again, help me choose?

Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga, or Raidou Kuzunoha

>>14766661

Raidou

>>14766661

Nocturne for sure.

>>14746952

>augmented reality phone game

Kill yourself faggot

>>14766661

dx2 liberation

>>14766661

DDS, both games back to back. Then Nocturne.

>>14766679

>>14766673

>>14766669

>>14766663

Well you all have made this decision easier. I've played them all before btw.

>>14766685

well you'll never know what new things you'll discover when you revisit an SMT game, plus Raidou is a weird one so I still suggest that

>>14763579

idk I kinda liked teaming up with aryan gods to kill yhwh again in smt4 Apocalypse.

>>14766696

I think I got it, im gonna start on SMT 2 and get the ending that leads into nocturne then the ending that leads into DDS. Double back into the timeline to the other ending of SMT 2 to play raidou, then play the new strange journey game based off the other ending of nocturne.

>>14766818

I wonder if he's in Caligula somewhere with its 500 named npcs.

Anyone who is playing the leak of Strange Journey Redux, mind spoiling the new content.

I want to know if it was as bad as we thought it would be when it was released in Japan.

>>14770915

Supposedly the game flat out tells you that pursuing the original endings is the wrong choice.

>>14747492

>Who's your type?

The only answer is Dagda.

People who post shit about SMTIVA forget that you always have a choice.

>>14772177

I unpacked the ROM and watched the cutscenes so what I know from the new neutral ending Tadano is immoral somehow, spending his time looking at Alex's ring on the moon then Arthur tells him that the Schwarzwelt appeared again and if he still feels human, ending with Tadano going back to Earth to fight again but I have no idea what the other endings are like or how shoehorned in is Alex.

I started playing but haven't gotten to that part yet.

>>14772276

I think it is Alex that tells you that perusing the original paths are the wrong choice since apparently they doom humanity anyway. You are forced to encounter her near Mem Aleph's chamber in Sector Horologium regardless of your progress in the Wailing Womb.

>>14772300

Wasn't that the point of the original endings?

I might be remembering it wrong but law is totalitarianism where everyone is brainwashed, chaos is where only the strongest survived and neutral was where the surviving crew came back to warn humanity that this can happen again if they don't change their ways.

It never set up a scenario where humanity is saved with the best ending being a second chance for the humans as the Schwarzwelt can return.

I'm assuming this is retconned now.

>>14772402

The new neutral end has the MC becoming an immortal marine, dealing with the Schwarzwelt whenever it reappears. The new chaos has the survival of the fittest theme but now the weak can be helped so that they can become strong. The new law has the kingdom of god but now people have free will.

>>14772402

>I'm assuming this is retconned now.

Yeah pretty much, they're replaced with happier endings as >>14772474 says. However the OG endings didn't tell you whether it's good or bad that those things happen, that goes out the window since Alex comes from either the original Law, Neutral or Chaos future (depending on what path you take) telling you that it's the wrong choice if you decide to pursue them.

>>14772487

That's rather heavy handed, I expected better from Ishida since he seems to have a better grasp of what makes SMT unique compared to Yamai.

I assume this was to make it more appealing to the Japanese audience since the original sold poorly and they don't seem to enjoy darker stories.

As for the game, I'm not hating it as much as thought I would do far but the new content is rather poorly written compared to the original.

>>14759901

I find it odd that women like this will pluck their eyebrows almost entirely off until they have to start drawing them on, but then they're completely oblivious to the fact that they have a peach fuzz beard all over their face. I immediately knew when I saw the thumbnail for this image, that she would have visible peach fuzz on her chin, and I was completely right.

also has hair on the tip of her nose, and extremely fucking chapped lips. 0/10

>>14770915

I'm playing it, it's alright. Combat is as tense as I remembered, especially since I'm playing on expert. However you get access to good sub apps fairly quickly in redux like relax spray that lets you smooth out a mistake during negotiating and combat related sub apps that let your party move before the enemy, which can trigger multiple times in a battle depending on your luck. This is all during the first sector mind you. Also they removed sub app slots which is fucking stupid, now you can just activate as many sub apps as you want unlike in the original where you had a limit and had to choose wisely. It really kills a good chunk of tension in the game. Story wise I'm in sector:C, met Alex who ended up killing me but you end up getting revived by some harvest demon in a new dungeon. The new writing clashes with the old, it's easy to spot and poorly written. Also the crew members having their own portraits is pretty meh, they look like bland anime characters than the elite of the elite handpicked for a dangerous mission that decides the fate of mankind. I guess it's worth a play through if you played the original, if not then play the original instead, so far I'm not really enthuastic from all the changes that they made.

>>14772474

>>14772487

Wait, I'm not sure I understand. Say that on your first run through the game you take the Chaos path. You're saying that during this route Alex tells you that she comes from the future where you're successful in the Chaos route and this route fucks up everything. So instead of going through with the Chaos route from the original Strange Journey, you follow an alternate Chaos path? And it follows similar reasonings for the other two endings?

Is that what you're saying?

Where should I start playing?

>>14773002

When I played I moved from standard to expert when I just started becoming so overleveled from playing through each sector and then the corresponding floor in the womb. The new commander sub apps range from useless to too good. There's basically no downside to taking all the commander auto-skills since they have a chance to activate every turn. I guarantee that there will be reviewers that give this a worse score than the original for petty things like it having no english dub instead of actual problems that this version has.

>>14773028

She tells you that the route that you're on will just cause the Schwarzwelt to appear again and that everything gets fucked. You have to finish the new dungeon to gain access to the new ending. You can still get the old endings.

>>14772231

you're right you have the choice between FRIENDSHIP or… NOTHIN PERSONELLE KID. But who cares when the gameplay is so absurdly shallow even compared to 4. I honestly can't even think of which is better between 4 and apoc because both are horrible in new and different ways

>>14760512

so that you can make your own demon dating game

>>14775927

>Total Progress - 92%

Bullshit

>>14776463

>same percentage that the Ao no Kiseki fan translation is stuck at

cursed number

>>14776990

I think SMT4 wouldn't have been so bad if they actually cut out the unnecessary parts and adapted more of Kaneko's draft instead of 2 volumes of it then write some NuPersona tier story as a follow up.

>>14773002

Up to sector B now since I haven't had much time to play and I did find the lack of Sub App slots strange, that, and free healing at the Red Sprite.

Otherwise commander skills isn't too bad so far considering 4/4A had demon whisper, ideally it wouldn't be as broken but Atlus tends to break things in remakes/ports.

>>14773250

I wouldn't bother with the games press as they actually think that SMT is the dark souls of persona.

>>14778275

>Also, that blogger's butthurt is delicious.

Which is a shame, because he researched alot about SMT demon's designs and origins

https://eirikrjs.blogspot.de/2017/08/kcn-liii-mystery-demons.html

Any Advie for the second Womb Boss Isthar?

Should i make Sector C now for a better Vest?

>>14778314

There's a ring you can make that blocks the MC from getting charmed. The rest should be pretty simple for you to figure out.

Majin Tensei II is getting fan translated by people who are actually fucking competent UNLIKE AEON GENESIS.

Megami Tensei Gaiden: Last Bible III also got an english translation patch released last month:

https://www.romhacking.net/translations/3545/

Also, apologies for forgetting to hooktube the Majin Tensei video, I don't think it's monetized though.

>>14791019

>>14785886

After seeing these two get a completed translation before SMT if & P2EP even though it started afterwards, makes you wonder why no one just start from scratch and make a new one.

Who gives a shit about them since they just spend their time in their echo chamber on ResetEra instead of finishing projects, fans want to play the games not listen to narcissists complain games don't conform to their worldview.

Strange Journey Redux's new neutral ending.

Spoilers if you haven't seen it yet.

>>14760804

> FE Awakening (just started, meh so far)

I also started this at about the beginning of the month or a little earlier, as my first FE game. I don't do any work on leveling up my guys and somehow this game is still a breeze; I got to the other continent and don't have the drive to keep going. I think FE is just a lot of waifu hype or something.

>>14792116

>The perfect original neutral ending is retconned into this

>>14792211

Those are some neat Nazis, looks more fun to fight than Wolfenstein's.

>>14777694

>7. Masakado, the anti-Semitic "hero." Taira no Masakado, I'm so, so sorry. Though, historically speaking, you got yourself in way over your head and beyond your abilities and resources, any notion of justice you may have once possessed has now been twisted by JJCAT and Shin Megami Tensei, turning your legacy into quite literally a sinewy mass of bigoted nationalism. Next time I stop by your grave, I'll leave you a small bottle of C.C. Lemon, unopened, as an offer of sympathy.

That amount of butthurt.

>>14792378

It's hard for liberals to pretend that they're human isn't it?

>>14792429

(((liberals)))

Also is there an Eternal Punishment PSP version english translation somewhere to be found?

>>14792211

>Dog has mouth sealed shut and nose covered

What the hell is it going to do, then?

Never played the original. What made that one great? What makes this version bad? What are the general differences?

>>14792801

>but the fact that the player is flat-out told that the original endings will only lead to you inevitably losing makes me wonder why you can still get them. Being told that only serves to make Alex and the new endings she is involved in more important.

Commander Gore and Arthur didn't die for this.

>You could argue that some of the changes are just for QoL (bar telling you how much health a demon has, demon skill picks, installation of sub apps outside of safe areas) but there are some changes that are blatantly in because people complained that the game was too hard for them. Many of the new sub apps that are available rather early and their abilities are one example. Dropping the sickbay cost at the red sprite, removing sub-app install sizes, and allowing for one save outside of terminals and making them now only useful for returning to the ship quickly in the field are some others off the top of my head.

That is a lot of fuckery.

>>14792211

>Top right

>That stomach gun and arm blade

That's for real a JoJo reference

>>14792580

The golden era was during the PS2 days. Nocturne, DDS, Raidou, so many fantastic games. I miss it so much. I sincerely doubt SMT V will end up any good, even with the return of the classic demon designs instead of whatever the fuck was in IV.

>>14796071

>even with the return of the classic demon designs instead of whatever the fuck was in IV.

the new designer seems a little hit and miss, too, tbh.

>>14792130

man fuck off, that's only Awakening onwards.

Imagine if you judged SMT as a series based of IV.

Play FE7, then FE4/5

>>14796241

Absolutely agreed. You get amazing designs that looks like it belongs with the original SMT world like minotuar, but get diahreah garbage like medusa and Lucifer that looks so out of place anf terrible that you wonder how it ever got greenlit

Skip to 31:00 for SJR's new law ending.

Skip to 34:00 for SJR's new chaos ending.

>>14797599

Thing is though, Doi's concept art is much better than the final product which makes me think it's Atlus that wants him to design the demons in a particular way.

http://eirikrjs.blogspot.com/2016/08/apocalypse-artbook.html?

>>14797599

those were by guest artists, i'm taking about the dude doing the designs for IV:Final and Deep Strange Journey (and probably V). Something about his drawings is just off, i'm not sure what.

But speaking of designs in IV that were kinda nice:

Sanat looks pretty cool as a "Chaos King", but that's just not Sanat Kumara, you know what i mean?

Asmodeus is kinda cool, but he has the problem, like many of the guest artist designs, of being too detailed for its own sake.

Kentauros, if nothing else, seems like a unique take on "part-horse, part-man"

I like Napaea's colors, but i'm not really feeling that overall "candy"-look

Koga Saburo is alright

Yeah, Minotaur is pretty excellent.

Chemtrail is okay, but IMO should have had a little more airplane aspects to it.

Yamato Takeru is pretty cool, like a robot version of that kind of design that that demons like Take-Mikazuchi had on the SNES. You could as why Yamato is a robot, but why is Kaneko's Fafnir?

>>14799246

i actually liked Lucifer's second form in IV, but i can kinda see it as a bad design for Lucifer

>>14799307

yeah, Kaneko probabably had a bit more input on what to do with the demon designs.

>>14799376

I doubt it as if he did then the final product would be more like the concept art.

Then taking into account the 5 designs in SJR with Zeus and Demeter being plain awful, I get the feeling Atlus is telling Doi how the demon should look like instead of letting him design it his way.

>>14799427

>Demeter

yeah, loli demeter…

there is a time and place for lolis, but the goddess of (earth's) fertility is probably not one of them. at least not in a series that until recently tried to stay somewhat faithful to mythology.

>I get the feeling Atlus is telling Doi how the demon should look like instead of letting him design it his way.

i just hope he keeps releasing his original concept art.

>>14799451

Demeter just looks odd since she is meant to be Zeus's older sister, which is even said in game by him and taking the mythos into consideration where they have a child, it just looks weird.

I remember Doi saying he wanted her to look youthful but there are ways to do that without making her a loli.

I'm curious about the concept art for SJR now and how different it is, we might get one for 5 but I'm guessing nothing for SJ.

I like Devil Survivor

So with SMTV being developed exclusivley for Switch and Persona Q2 being developed for 3DS, I was thinking about the possibility of SMT getting into Super Smash Bros.

After all, SMT has been with Nintendo for a long time, ever since the Famicom days. (Until Nintendo fucked up with the N64 and pushed all their third parties over to Sony, anyways.)

I personally think Jack Frost would be a good rep, maybe throw in some Jack Bros shit to fill out his moveset, making him a good rep for SMT as a whole, not singling out any one game.

Or maybe since Persona Q 2 is going to be based around P5, maybe they will port P5 to the Switch and have Joker be the rep.

Would be kind of lame, but at least then they will probably put Rivers in the Desert into the soundtrack.

Anyways, do you think its possible that SSB will have a SMT rep, and if so, what rep do you think they will go with?

>>14800939

I think an SMT rep is pretty likely to happen due to new smash releases always grasping on straws when it comes to getting new characters in. I give it a 60%-70% chance to happen.

I think the rep would either be the Jack Bros, Jack Frost, or Demi-Fiend or maybe even Finn from smt4, hopefully never Nanashi from smt4a. I would hurt myself it that last one were to happen.

>>14801687

>- Amiibo Inkling Demon

please do not lock demons behind amiibos

>>14801629

>implying space marine himself isn't the vending machine spamming beads to keep the party alive

>>14799363

>i actually liked Lucifer's second form in IV, but i can kinda see it as a bad design for Lucifer

I agree but I never liked the Lucifer character. In the original MT, he was basically demon Jesus while the first SMT had him say that he used to be one with YHVH. It is like the Devil can't just be evil anymore. The writer of Devil Man ruined the perfect ending to his manga to push this "God is the true villain" thing even the first manga demonstrated that Demons truly can not co-exist with humanity and God was ultimately to purge the Demons. I really want to see another take on abandoning the Law and Chaos paradigm without the whole "I'm the strongest protagonist because Null-All even if my predecessor killed God and I'm sucking Lucifer's cock." (this is actually the fanbase's fault but whatever). The problem with the Law-Chaos is who is in power. Look at the faggots in the MSM like the Women's March and BLM thinking that they are fighting "the Man".

>>14802045

>demon sources with luster candy begin to appear

>my space marine becomes an item thrower every boss fight while my three demons put the party to +3, throw magic/ charge+physicals at the enemy, and then switch themselves out with another of my demons with similar skills

What's so bad about Apoc? I haven't finished it yet, but I don't see why is this supposed to be so shit besides some questionable designs and an edge sharpened a bit too much

>>14802415

There's no defense stat meaning that HP is randomly decided. The retarded ass smirk system is back, NPC companions are dumber than hell, story is pants on head retarded, not to mention PLS DLC BUYARU GOYIM-TAN

>>14801629

Strange Journey is the Dark Souls of Persona games.

I had forgotten this game wasnt gonna have a dub and was surprised to hear the japanese voices. Atlus knows this game isnt gonna sell for shit in the west so they didnt even bother to add an english dub which means that Atlus is learning since this is what we want. they still call you an American even though gore clearly says your from Nippon and they called the red light district the "business" district

>>14804613

dark souls is the strange journey of persona games

>>14803171

The smirk system still needed to be thought through in 4A, they nerfed it a bit and made skills that granted it or took it away but it still felt like a half-cocked edition to the established SMT gameplay.

>>14802297

>It is like the Devil can't just be evil anymore

SMT is all about moral grey area, there is no good or bad, right or wrong decision, just choosing whatever flavor of fucking over humanity that you personally prefer. I am also beyond sick and fucking tired of very clear cut good guy/bad guy plots, having the conflict be a disagreement between two or more sides with their own good points and bad points is far more interesting and a big part of why I got into SMT in the first place.

>>14802415

They turned the story into generic shonen garbage but with gore. Friendship power bullshit has no place in an SMT game of all things where a series staple is you killing your allies over ideological differences. Gameplay was pretty good though, I don't mind the absence of a defense stat that much.

>>14806600

I sided with Dagda and got to murder my entire human party in one go, I don't see what this "friendship power"meme is coming from unless you intentionally choose that side

>>14806627

As I gather, the game's narrative heavily discourages the Dagda route. All dialogue options associated with it involve being an edgelord dick, you're constantly chewed out for choosing the route, the one person in your party who should stand with you either way (Toki) tries to kill you like the others for no real reason, and the final fight with YHVH gets loads harder due to the fact Flynn only gets 1 person as backup when it switches to his party as compared to 3 on the POWER OF FRIENDSHIP route. Which means that whenever YHVH uses Authorative Stance Flynn and Satan lose their entire turn no matter what.

Devil Summoner - Raidou Kuzunoha vs. The Soulless Army is alright.

>>14806600

>I am also beyond sick and fucking tired of very clear cut good guy/bad guy plots, having the conflict be a disagreement between two or more sides with their own good points and bad points is far more interesting and a big part of why I got into SMT in the first place.

And I'm sick of faggot moral relativists saying things like terrorists are a result of poverty or American imperialism or whatever. And that wasn't even my point. SMT's Lucifer is literally just Demon Jesus. DeSu's 8th day for the Demon King ending had you reunite everyone and be a complete moralfag. The unrelated example of the Devilman manga is how a perfectly tragedic ending was ruined to continue the story. It didn't matter if God was in the wrong when Satan made the same mistake. In the latest manga, humanity and demons joined forces to fight the true enemy, God. That same manga, the protagonist, Devilman Lady, was able to save the humans which were absorbed by the turtle demon. The same demon who forced Devilman to kill a little girl and many other humans to defeat him. For the Devilman, it is more about forcing the story to continue but my point is making Lucifer to a straight up good guy is a lazy way to give him depth.

BTW: I didn't play SMT4 or 4/A so don't take this as praise for those games although I did like the idea that they brought up how Lucifer and YHYV used to be one entity again.

>>14806817

the fight should be harder on the dagda route since your relying on your own power rather then your friends. the fight with vishnu flyn is also harder and so is the satan fight

>>14808543

Are those actual quotes?

>>14813084

dekaja

dekunda

>>14759556

Does anyone else think this guy looks like an elf?

>>14813202

All he looks like to me is a flaming faggot.

Favorite SMT music?

>>14813387

>Is Strange Journey the Bloodborne of the Dark Souls of the Persona franchise?

>>14813387

It might as well be Persona considering the shitty new endings.

>>14815269

My sister's boyfreind came out as a tranny and told everyone he was going to have a sex change operation soon, I tried to tell him that it'd be really unhealthy but he just called me a bigot. I am taking bets on how long it takes for them to break up after he gets his dick snipped though.

>>14792851

Tbh i dont even know how you could need those

Everytime my demons get too low and weak but i want to press on i just fuse them. Then go recruit some more weak ones.

In my 20 hours so far i have gone back to the Red Sprite a total of 5 times outwide or story mandated returns

>>14761153

How do i join private server as well as play it in english in the USA. I would accrpt engrish even

>>14813095

i did heard "smt is pokemon for adults" in this board once

Wait, I swear you use to be able to put points into your stats every time you leveled up in Strange Journey? or was it always automatic?

>>14819149

It was always automatic. You took a personality test in the beginning and it told you where it was (mostly) going to allocate your stats.

>>14819442

That's pretty lame, I haven't played SJ yet. One of the things that really seperated SMT from other JRPGs was that they actually respected the players intelligence enough to allow them to allocate their own stats.

>>14817202

SMT slightly "redpilled" me and awoken an interest for religion in me, same goes for Morrowind.

>>14817202

I think in 4, Lucifer even turns out to be controlled opposition to YHVH. Are there more games like that, where an obviously-evil character or group turns out to exist solely to make a less-obvious and more-sinister villain look better by comparison? I really like this concept for some reason.

>>14821867

the stats for your main guy dont really matter too much. the MC exists to be a liability in battle. the stats of your demons matter more and you never can control the stats of your demons in any of the games

>>14821994

>I think in 4, Lucifer even turns out to be controlled opposition to YHVH.

in 4:Apocalypse, specifically.

>>14822128

4:A you also kill the main villian forever with the power of friendship and or edge

>>14822318

>edge

it's not edge if you're killing idiots

>>14822009

>you never can control the stats of your demons in any of the games

DSJ has altered that. If someone has both the autism and the DLC there is now a way to farm a forma that creates demon incense cheaply. One could theoretically make any demon have maxed stats.

>>14746952

phone game SMT would be cool

>>14822791

>phone game SMT would be cool

there were already a few

>>14746854

Christ, you're a fucking panzy. The artwork didn't even change all that much with the exception of like 3 characters.

>>14760682

>for good reason

Nope. I've heard endless irrelevant, bullshit reasons, but no valid ones. I'm convinced 90% of the dissenters have either never played an smt game or their only smt game was the 3rd one and their gay fanboyish nature causes them to lash out at any atlus game that isn't exactly like nocturne, despite the fact that it was pretty middle of the road. Apocalypse aside.

>>14746952

I could have sworn that was a thing in japan. Some SMT-GO type shit. I'll have to check back on that to see if anything came of it.

>>14792211

>redux is a letdown

It really kind of is, but not for any of the reasons posted here. It's almost exactly the same game as the original, but a little easier, which is inevitable as they give you more resources and mechanics to work with. Oh, and all the voice acting is japanese, so, enjoy not even getting to hear comprehensible language unless you're a nip or a turbo weeb.

>>14799262

>LAW is now generic Christian type rather than old covenant style Judaic vision

>Chaos has Jimenez giving a shit about other people

They just did not really understand the appeal of the SMT approach to either faction, did they?

>>14799710

It's funny, the extended routes/endings in DS1 were actually really cool. They fucked up on SJ Redux big time.

>>14815902

yep

>>14817202

Yea, the entire Messina/LAW faction being literal zionists is the entire appeal of the faction for SMT,

>>14825189

>Nope. I've heard endless irrelevant, bullshit reasons, but no valid ones

Sure.

>terrible story, gets immediately insipid as soon as you get to Tokyo

>mediocre, easy as shit broken, AGAIN as soon as you get to Tokyo

>probably the worst faction representation in the entire series, both sides are boring as shit, and neutral has you grind hunter missions for some reason

SMT4 did have a great OST though.

>>14825301

in summation, it feels like Atlus had a really tight/good game in development until you reached Tokyo. Then they winged it out the door so they could re-focus on Persona development.

this game is pathetically easy, even if you don't take advantage of the stupid apps.

Actually, I'm lying, I did the like the LAW Apocalyptic wasteland bit, but that's only a cool 2 hour area in a 35 hour mediocrity.

>>14825301

It also has hands down the worst combat in the entire series, only mimic'd in apoc.

>>14749668

The biggest problem I had with Imagine was the battle system, they should have stuck with turn based combat.

>>14825917

There has been other turn based MMOs, I can't remember its name but years ago I remember playing one where you had a party of around 6+ members and would fight enemies of around the same party size in turn based combat. There's games like Dofus/Wakfu which are also turned based.

>>14824502

>I think that's also why Nyarlathotep is generally aligned "Law" in MegaTen even though he's called the Crawling Chaos.

i think it's because demons are assigned to the clans that fit them most, so Nyarlathotep is a Vile/Heretic God, but the alignments are then assigned regardless of whether some of the demons fall outside of that alignment.

>>14825954

That's the second one though.

>>14825917

Would it be like playing timed chess with other players? I don't think I'd like that.

It would probably help a little with ping issues?

Anyone playing in the fan server?

>>14825975

Was YHWH in the first smt?

>>14824502

>I think that's also why Nyarlathotep is generally aligned "Law" in MegaTen even though he's called the Crawling Chaos.

In SMT1, Loki and Thor were Law demons.

>>14825291

Alignment mechanics have been gay for a long time.

>>14825996

He was in Megami Tensei II on the NES. He was also blue.

>>14826010

He also had his own theme, that got arranged for Majin Tensei (https://hooktube.com/watch?v=obP2k3BvVmQ).

>>14825996

Yeah but plot twist, that YHWH was a kike god in a computer that the real YHWH saw as inferior.

Lvl 64

Notrol

Can`t beat Monokuma in the Womb

I miss being Chaos.

>>14829577

wait wait wait…

is this a SNES "Tactics" game?

fuck, i must play it, fucking hate you /v/, i am gonna lose even more time i was supposed to use on being productive

>>14829584

>is this a SNES "Tactics" game

Yes. The two Devil Survivor games for the DS were basically Majin Tensei 4 and 5, but the third game in the series "Ronde" was so fucking horrible that it completely tainted and killed the Majin Tensei label. Vid related.

>>14829584

>is this a SNES "Tactics" game?

You sound underaged.

>>14829599

Ronde didn't kill it since it wasn't even called a Majin Tensei game, it was just a shitty release. Stop reading hg101.

>>14829577

Same could be said about the people fan translating Persona 2 Eternal Punishment on PSP, it's been so long and it's still not done.

>>14792211

That artwork is from this game by the way.

>>14832932

persona 6 is gonna come out on the ps5 just like what happen with persona 5 and the ps3/ps4.

>>14833565

>inb4 Nintendo exclusivity deal

>>14808543

<Game is piss easy compared to the original.

>All the advanced features remove the challenge of figuring out how to manage your apps and such.

To be fair, the best part of the remake is that there is no more ass clinching when your demon changes Mortal Jihad into something useless.

>Still have the original and resisted the urge to import all my old demons.

>Alex is a multiple choice time traveller

>ie, she suffers from the multiverse bullshit from SMT4/SMT4A

>New endings exist to shit over the old endings while being mostly the same thing.

>Gore looks like a fucking Dildo.

>Doesn't even come with a Music CD that doesn't work like the original Strange Journey.

The only question I have, is who is the lucky dude who knocked up Lucifer? Was it the faggot MC from Devil Survivor?

>>14834733

>The only question I have, is who is the lucky dude who knocked up Lucifer?

Oh yeah, I forgot this was a legit plot-point now. What the fuck is wrong with Atlus?

Did they change how much EXP you gain because I am seriously over leveling everything

I am level 50 and just beat Oroboros. I am not even grinding or anything just killing anything that attacks me.

Alice is going to be utterly useless

>>14834952

Strange Journey was my first and its a no-frills straight up SMT game unlike Persona. It also helps that the remake is coming out soon but gettingemulating it for the DS is much easier. ywn be the cuck fag who tried to sell an emulator fuck you no$gba br loser

>>14834952

People will generally tell you to start from either Nocturne or Digital Devil Saga. Nocturne is the closest to an honest to good SMT experience and is fairly challenging enough for those who play it for the first time. Digital Devil Saga is a more traditional style JRPG in that you don't recruit demons and your party members have fixed roles, but you can further customize each one of them through the Mantra system.

From there on, you can go anywhere you want to. Rule of thumb is that pretty much all PS2 games are pretty good, SMT1 and 2 can feel rather dated but are still pretty solid games, if… never ever unless you can read moon, Devil Survivor is a pretty great SRPG, and 2 is okay as well but vastly inferior to the first one. Strange Journey is very damn good and very challenging with a very atmospheric soundtrack that's different from every other SMT game. 4 is trash talked in these threads because they introduce shit changes to gameplay (fuck smirking, no def stat, demons are either squishy as fuck or run out of MP too soon, you can fucking oneshot bosses after a certain point cos fuck balance) and many other questionable and downright stupid developments. Apoc fixes some of those issues but not enough to make it a good SMT game. Regardless, I still had my fair share of enjoyment with them; approach at will only after you've played a fair share of the other SMTs. There's also some shout outs to Persona 1 and 2 because they're closer to the SMT style than the new Persona style, check them when you're interested.

Also, don't forget to play Synchronicity AKA Jack Bros 2 because it's pretty fucking good.

>>14835241

>Persona Q

>true SMT experience

That doesn't sound right…

>>14835251

I think they are talking about it being a dungeon crawler similar to SMT 1, 2 and SJ.

>>14834733

do the passwords from the old game still work in this game? cause there is a special password

demon jimeniz and angel zelin. but there moveset is shit though

>>14834952

>Thinking of getting into it by playing the first released title

SMT 1 has an interesting problem in that even though it tells you where to go, you have no idea where that place is. There are no signs on any buildings, it doesn't give you the name of the building on the world map or even when you get close to it, nor did they even give you the name of the building you are in on the dungeon map. For example the heroine gets kidnapped and they find out she is going to be executed at the plaza, so you waste time searching every building in the city until something happens, which also means you could enter the wrong building and get assfucked by high level demons. Still really fun though, once you get into demon fusing it becomes really addicting.

its been a long time since i played the original strange journey and i dont remember having trouble recruiting demons from other alignments. it seems like law and chaos demons are impossible to recruit as neutral cause i answer all there questions and give them what they want and it seems they are happy but then they say sorry we dont see eye to eye then leave.

>Strange Journey

>fighting herald Azrael

>he spams Megidola and heals every time his hp full

WHAT IS THIS BULLLLLLLLLLLSHIT????

Reached 6th Sphere of the Womb

Now i`m stuck

Need Help

Demon told me i need some special glasses.

>>14834733

>the best part of the remake is that there is no more ass clinching when your demon changes Mortal Jihad into something useless

You can literally choose not to do that when your demon levels up in the original.