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Skullgirls censored some panty shots, but it still has plenty of panty shots.

Like, plenty.

>>14743572

Fuckoff Mike Z

>>14743572

>like, duhhhh

END YOURSELF

>>14743572

I hope you fill your car with diesel.

>>14743605

you need to start seeing things from a business perspective

Sure, they caved in to SJWS, but they didn't alienate the entire fanbase or game, they censored sprites that were still (victory/results screen where those sprites are seen for awhile), the ones most SJWs would see, to be censored to appease/market a progressive audience while still appealing to the "we want lewd panties" crowd.

From a business perspective, they did the right thing. Triggering 8ch doesn't matter since they just pirate games anyway and would never buy it legit. Also bad Pr is better than no PR

This is probably how they saw the move

>>14743614

Nah, the suits got pozzed by the HR and CSR people. Without these suits will do whatever sells the best and sex sells.

>>14743614

Yes people who would buy the game already bought it and couldn't refund it because the act of fucking up happened long after.

Great business decision truly.

I will totally but their next game featuring strong independent person of color my fellow video game consumer.

>>14743637

The only two i ticked was "they barely censored" and "appealing to a broader audience"

>>14743614

> still appealing to the "we want lewd panties" crowd.

Wrong, it won't. It's what is left unsaid that says the most. The willingness to even censor and sacrifice artistic integrity to appease a few people who don't even fucking play video games tells the honest consumers to go fuck themselves.

Japs mostly get away without censoring their stuff because they do not give any power to this western SJW bullshit. Stop feeding the beast and it starves. That is the main difference between being a man and a cuck. Get your head out of your ass and stop sucking tranny cock.

>>14743638

It's called having principles.

You censor one pixel, you're my enemy forever.

>>14743645

Actually a whole bunch of anons bought those tactical shooter and knights ubisoft games and were having quite active threads for a good while about them.

>>14743638

>"they censored two instances, with the intent of catering to a broader audience"

Can't you see the problem here? SFV did the same thing just to get into the TV e-sports meme and look where they are now, not even EVO wants that shit

>>14743581

>Those eyes

Why do I have a feeling that this creature is trying to uguuu and trying to call me onii-chan?

>>14743614

They failed to pander to sjws because they are nearly unpleaseable (at least as a whole) and there's still sexy women and they alienated their core fanbase. They fucked up, and hard.

>>14743674

I've never reached that point in the game, but I think she's more of sexy vixen archetype.

I can be entirely wrong of course.

>>14743572

This is exactly the kind of half-assed millennial attitude I can't stand. Completely disregarding the topic of censorship and free speech, it's just plain lazy and disrespectful. It tells me that whoever worked on the game had no fucking sense of professionalism or pride in their work.

If you're going to censor panty shots, you better censor ALL the panty shots. You go full Sharia or get the fuck out.

Sage for doublepost

>>14743614

>Triggering 8ch doesn't matter since they just pirate games anyway and would never buy it legit

I do, but I try to follow some basic guidelines on what I buy.

>Also bad Pr is better than no PR

Nice meme. The issue is more complex than that. If you become a bad pr legend (think tommy wiseau or however you spell the name) you make big bucks just for being a huge fuck up. If you get bad pr because you outright spite your fanbase you are fucked.

>>14743651

If you give a child throwing a tantrum a treat to shut them up, you'll get more tantrums.

Truthfully I don't blame the tantrum throwers up to a point. They've been raised by helicopter parents in a society where leaving a child alone is considered abuse. They have had to grow up with a 'higher authority' is always present, so when they become 'adults' they have to create a new one. Unfortunately society provides no end of larger systems to fill in that roll, and as their way of exercising power they simply become puritanical adherents to the outlined beliefs.

>>14743704

>giant fucking bazoongas

>imouto

Really man?

RIP Killing Floor, a once-fun game whose balance got completely fucked by updates, completely trivializing all the normally-difficult zombies with shit like the sniper rifle.

>>14743638

The other anons brought up good points but failed to simply name you the dick sucking apologist that you are. Kill yourself.

I was looking through old Warcraft 2 shit for no particular reason and apparently the game had "gnomish flying machines" which I'm sure as shit weren't actually in the original game at all. Was that added after the fact to not make WoW seem like as much of an asspull as it was?

>>14743647

>>14743651

I'm not defending censorship. Censoring should ideally never happen.

You're making a big deal about 1-frame moment and 1 sprite still.

I agree that it's the principle that matters, but again,this is some heavy overreacting.

>You're either with us or you're with them!!

come on. This is a kindergarden response. Surely open dialogue and healthy discussion would be better idea. You're acting no different than the crazy left calling you a bigot for the smallest thing.

>>14743765

Ok anon, how many frames and how many sprites need to be altered before it matters? Could you give us a range on the number and amount of change that we could use?

>>14743689

>Pride in their work

>grabbing MS Paint eraser and adding some more color squares with the secondary color is suddenly NO SENSE OF PROFFESIONALISM HOW DARE THEY DO YOU HAVE NO PRIDE

Anon it's a fucking panty sprite not the Mona Lisa.

Their objective is to sell and make money, not make a good product. This is the reality. The days of making a good product > customers will come is long gone. Simply don't purchase their products. But stop sperging out because their decision has reason behind it. You either discuss like an adult or go back to cuck chan with the REEE and WE ARE THE COUNTER CULTURE XD fucking Thread #99928 because we get it they censor theyre faggots but holy shit you complain about the same. Don't give them ANY PR, not even this thread. That's the best you can do, but if you're gonna be a faggot and cry about it for the tenth time Im just gonna say "fuck off already we get it. Its a business practice. Whatever fuck them"

>>14743747

Pretty sure you saw them in WoW because they were in 3.

>>14743747

>which I'm sure as shit weren't actually in the original game at all

Yes they were, I remember them

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Gnomish_Flying_Machine_(Warcraft_II)

>>14743707

The SJW mentality is obsessed with not getting hurt. They have fragile minds that do not and will not accept difference of opinion. Here people can call each other faggots and disagree openly, but the SJWs stifle any sort of disagreement not unlike what took place during Soviet times. Disagreeing and voicing opinions is how people eventually learn to tolerate one another, but SJWs want to bury all icky disagreement until it blows up in their face. Just look at the fucking screencaps from REEEEEEsetera, it is the equivalent of a fucking Gulag.

All of this focus on semantics (muh gender), on purity of thought (fugging sexist/sogynist/gnadzee) and having extreme opinions (kill all men/whites/whatever) shows that these people are not sound of mind and should not be let anywhere near any sort of media. /pol/ is all of this, TO AN EXTENT, but they are outraged with American government and terrorists, something that actually has some substance and is something a regular person could worry about.

SJWs are only focused on the self and not getting hurt. SJWs want to turn the world into a safe padded cell. It is safe for them because their minds are so fucking tortured, but to the rest of us it is unacceptable. The fact that they constantly contradict themselves is a dead give-away that these people are insane.

>>14743765

>You're either with us or you're with them!!

Point to me exactly where I said or implied this.

>Surely open dialogue and healthy discussion would be better idea. You're acting no different than the crazy left calling you a bigot for the smallest thing.

Your idea of "open dialogue" is something that agrees with your own opinion. This IS free dialogue we are having in this thread RIGHT NOW, motherfucker. We are saying that censorship is bad, what part of that is so fucking hard for a corporate dicksucker like you to understand? What fucking purpose does it serve to censor something that the people playing the game enjoy? When has censorship EVER been a good idea?

>>14743796

>it's a fucking panty sprite not the Mona Lisa

At what point does it become a problem to alter something?

>>14743775

Again, open dialogue is what matters. I wouldn't censor anything, but if a considerable percentage of backers in a kickstarted game where bitching I'd go "here's a poll, how much do you want censored" and listen, then I'd use that as a basis and be either "that's nice but the original idea is lewd girls, sorry" or "we can censor the really lewd moments, but thats as much as we'll go because this game is about lewd girls, sorry" but there must be a fine line between compromise and caving in. I would never go full burka and covering because of SJWS. They didn't do that.

>>14743806

As a matter of fact, Fillia's intro where some random strangers gropes her giant ass with the panty visible on the grab is still there and uncensored. You can't really say this game is censored when its just a 1-frame and 1 sprite still. It's not black or white.

Regarding your pic, Mike Z is a cuck though, he will always be a cuck. I will never defend that faggot, But I'm trying to defend the poor hand-drawn animator here. He doesn't deserve the black-listing. He has made good lewd work and the animations are crisp. I pirated Skullgirls and I enjoyed it, even though is was minorly censored and the roster didn't have many cast members.

>>14743833

>corporate dicksucking

>some indie studio that can't even back its own game

Anon it is their work. They alter their own work if they feel like it or not. How is that censorship if they willingly alter their work? That's like calling censorship if the artist decides to remove one color from its painting. They consent to the change. The only one being censored is the hand-drawn animator, but he too has consent by law to follow orders. It's a for profit project, not art. Feel free to fill up your bingo with this one, because it is still a viable argument. Counting arguments doesn't counter them, by the way.

>>14743809

The were just called flying machines in 3 and never had any mentioning of being made by gnomes outside of the manual.

>>14743821

I can't say I really trust official wikis anymore but every pdf I can find checks out. It's just weird that they seemed to completely blank out gnomes and then bring them back like they were always as important as dwarves.

>>14743833

They're Communists, it's not the issue of getting hurt, they just enjoy hurting other people and playing victim.

>>14743851

>>14743840

>so why would they need to censor

to appeal to a broader audience and make money

to appeal to a bigger target market (sjws, tumblrites) and make money

It's not an art form. Why do you think video games are art? It is not.

>>14743881

You're not very bright. The backers are the consumers.

>>14743887

Hurry up and finish the bingo.

>>14743562

Fuck Mike Z, he ruined a perfectly good thing.

>>14743864

> How is that censorship if they willingly alter their work? That's like calling censorship if the artist decides to remove one color from its painting. They consent to the change.

Now that is fucking bullshit. Caving in to opinions is "free will" now? How about the air of negativity and fear that SJWs have cultivated, how does that not factor in to their decision? You can bet your ass that these poor indie devs would have been publicly strung up by their balls had they not bent their knees. That is not "consent", that is caving in to fear. It is no surprise that some paid shill believes in a gangster's definiton of consent.

Decisions are made out of free will, but you are forgetting the INFLUENCING factors. If our cultural environment was open and with a "live and let live" attitude, we wouldn't even be having this conversation because it would be a total fucking NON-ISSUE. We would have our sexy pantyshot fighting games without some fucking moralists who don't even understand other people's hobbies lording over them.

Why do YOU care so much that we hate censorship so much, "fellow anon?"

>>14743881

What happens when the card is full? Does the shill get his 50 cent bonus for being permabanned from /v/? Just curious.

>>14743897

I don't know if Skullgirls was ever perfectly good.

>>14743887

You're fucking retarded. You said yourself there's still plenty of uncensored risque shit left in the game, so why would censoring a few mid-fight panty shots draw in that crowd?

It was a stupid decision with no rhyme or reason and you're a fucking retard for defending it.

>>14743833

>The SJW mentality is obsessed with not getting hurt

I agree with everything else you say, but I think you are giving this mentality to much credit. SJWs don't get hurt, they pretend like they get hurt, like a kid playing up just how badly their brother hit them or a wrestler selling a bump. You can tell that they don't actually care based on just how often you find them either betraying the mindset (with either an 'its ok because we know them' mentality or being kicked from the tribe) or when they have to deal with real life 'dont fuck with this' consequences like going to court their oh-so-important 'genderfulid-transracial-queerkin' persona is so quickly abandoned for male/female.

>>14743864

>open dialogue is what matters.

No, it doesn't. 'Raising the question' is a cowards attempt to avoid responsibility for their actions. It's an excuse that is used when someone makes an idiotic claim and gets called out on it. Call Apu a racist stereotype on a show that is all about stereotypes and call for his removal? "Oh I was just raising a conversation that needed to happen." Get caught writing an article defending pedophiles? "I was raising the conversation"

Second, you've tried to weasel out of it again by saying 'considerable' percentage. How much of a percentage? Is it more than 50% of all backers. How do you determine just how much people want to censor it. How do you control for people scamming the system or using social pressure to affect what other people are saying. Is one person being grossly offended (in which case why are they there in the first place) the equivalent to seven people who are mildly offended?

>>14743922

If you read what Mike Z says here

>>14743806

It becomes quite obvious they wanted to censor even more but the artist probably said "Fuck you I'll only remove two panty shots any more than that and you can draw it yourself faggot."

>>14743902

Say I go to a restaurant

Scenario one: I order soup and it is not well done, or it is lukewarm because a fifth of the restaurant is old ladies who cant ingest the soup very hot

I either say "it's cool, let's test it" and if its good, then i let it slide. But I would probably not come back to this restaurant since it's not up to standard.

Scenario 2:

I order a soup and they give me a cold soup because one fifth of the restaurant likes it cold. I'd just stand up and leave because they're alienating the rest of the customers and I wouldn't come back.

I wouldn't sperg out because my soup is lukewarm and yell THIS PLACE IS SHIT NO ONE COME HERE because of a soup. That only Backfires and people will believe you're crazy. No one will believe your point of view. You're better off taking it to the manager and gathering people like goobergate does to gather like minded individuals. But you don't create an echo chamber where you circle jerk its shit. It achieves nothing but bad PR and people willing to try it out because bad PR is better than no PR. You're only helping them.

Can't you see that? Either way, the point is that it is not black or white.

>>14743924

Yoya-chan is shit

>>14743938

>the artist probably said "Fuck you I'll only remove two panty shots any more than that and you can draw it yourself faggot."

God I hope that's the case. One of the things that upsets me most when it comes to censorship discussions is the complete and utter lack of backbone shown by anyone involved.

>>14743958

Did he ever cut ties with them?

>"But anon, they censored the game to appeal to a broader audience, they are a business after all!! It's not like the game started as a passion project with frame by frame animation instead of sprites or 3d models. No!! They are #Based. They didn't censor everything in the game!! They just censored some minor stuff like panty shots!! It's not like they were a big part of the appeal of the game!! It's not like they even hired Zone to do some artwork!! It isn't a passion project!! It is a business"

t.Corporate cuckhold

>>14743940

Why do you wish to defend censorship so much? You shouldn't accept any censorship no matter how small. Because once you start accepting little changes they start to take more and more until everything is grey, bland, and uninteresting.

>>14743960

You're asking the wrong guy.

>>14743963

Hey anon, 90% of my penis is still intact so Jews are a-okay.

>>14743970

He still has to finish the bingo though.

>>14743940

Let's say that you go to a restaurant that gives you some excellent soup that you and a lot of other people like, then the restaurant in order to appeal to a wider audience they replace the soup with a broth but still call it soup in the menu?

Is it still fair?

>>14743970

I'm not in favor of censorship.

I'm only stating it was a business move they chose and we should try and understand it so we can make it not happen again, instead of sperging out and simply losing all voice in dialogue.

>>14743985

>we should try and understand it

We do understand it. Mike Z is an SJW and chose his ideology over everything else.

>>14743984

1 frame out of 1 girl that you will not even notice unless told is hardly removing all carrots. more like, one condiment disappears from your mouth for 1 frame then reappears.

If you wanted to be more accurate.

>>14743985

No it was an ideological move as you can see here

>>14743806

Where Mike Z says no customer you don't want bra and panty shots that is problematic.

>>14743991

then I completely digress and will credit you right when credit is due. If this is an ideological move then he's a faggot and there's nothing else to add.

>>14743614

Money from such pathetic subhuman retards might as well be as stained with shit as the worthless sentient pile of it bitching at me over nothing.

This shit needs to be nothing but mocked and stigmatized into extinction then shat on centuries later.

>>14743985

>we should try and understand it so we can make it not happen again

We fucking understand you CIA nigger, they removed shit to appeal to the normalfags. We are just telling you how much of a fucking corporate tool you act/speak like

>>14743985

>we should try and understand it so we can make it not happen again,

That's never going to happen and you're retarded. The reason this happens to begin with is because of SJW's stranglehold over gaming journalism and their ability to push out the false narrative that you game has to be progressive and get rid of controversial things or else.

This is demonstrably not true as games that say "Fuck you" to this mentality often do well. They garner both the anti-censorship crowd and the crowd that just like good games while spurning the minuscule progressive crowd who will be upset regardless.

The progressive crowd is not worth courting. They do not put their money where their mouth is. The need for censorship is an illusion.

>>14743983

Would be more accurate to take the soup away mid meal and remove all of the meat before returning it to you. Also assume that you had to pre pay for the soup.

>>14743806

That man looks rather Semitic.

>>14743985

>I'm only stating it was a business move they chose and we should try and understand it so we can make it not happen again

Well that part is certainly easy. When a developer or publisher does something like this, you don't buy that game. Not only do you not buy it, but you never buy another thing that either one works on, ever again. A hard and fast boycott, without pussying out.

Then again, maybe you're right, because this requires consumers to have self-control. If they did, we wouldn't have paid online, DLC, DRM (including Steam), or censorship of any kind.

Didn't the lead artiest behind skullgirls also draw gore porn?

>>14743562

You're thinking of Alien Shooter 2 Reloaded and jesus fuck if you're so mad about the fact that you can use more than one weapon just play the old version. Differences between different weapons weren't that big (with the exception of explosive and energy ones).

Also any game with Games for Windows Live, for obvious reason.

>>14743985

Principles nigger, ever heard of them?

>>14744016

>Yes. SJWs are hypocrites, always.

If you look at what got left in the game you start to get the feeling that it wasn't the artist's idea to make those changes.

>>14743638

>The act of catering to a broader audience is done by every single dev

Faggot devs, maybe. Make your vision firstmost.

>>14743985

>it was a business move they chose and we should try and understand it

if their business move pisses me of I don't have to accept it, I'm not their fucking shareholder.

<Yeah they did something you don't like, but they did it to make money so you can't complain

Fucking corporate dicksuckers

>>14744025

>Location: Los Angeles

What a fucking surprise.

>>14743689

Its a job. They draw for money, if their boss tells them to change something they do it or get replaced by someone who does. Not everyone has the luxury to do whatever he wants you spoiled boomer.

>>14744000

The progressive crowd has the jews' chips on them.

The only way you can get the jews to invest on the non-SJW crowd again is by voting with your wallet. Don't buy the game. Call out their censorship. Then the suits will realize sex sells, not feminism or a progressive view for social responsibility points.

>>14744011

The issue is these people are retarded. They listen to what SJWs like gospel in the first place, and they would at least do a marketing strategy to see if what they say was true if they weren't.

Make your voice heard. Talk. Gather people. Show them sex sells and censorship is a turn off and should push it to be optional at the very fucking least.

But if you don't make noise you won't be heard and nothing will change. Best way to vote is with the wallet and being more loud than SJWs. Otherwise SJW will be the only voice to hear. People should stand up against SJWs instead of being scared of being blacklisted as bigots.

I see no one trying to, if not open dialogue since the left is insane, bypass them and talk to the devs, show what you want and what you don't.

>>14744038

>The only way you can get the jews to invest on the non-SJW crowd again is by voting with your wallet. Don't buy the game. Call out their censorship.

Where are you from and have you not been paying attention. Every niche market has said that yet here we are again arguing with nitwits like you having to tell you not to butcher our games. It turns out for every one of us there are 1000 fucking apathetic idiots who throws money at any product regardless of whether it will positively affect the market or not.

That's why there is going to be regulations with microtransactions. Too many stupid motherfuckers that throw their money at corporations to ever have businessmen listen to us when hundreds of idiot are throwing thousands at them.

>>14743924

I love mysteries!

>>14743562

I got almost all the way to the end of The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing, and then the devs released a "free upgrade" that broke the game. And then they announced that they were selling a "remastered" version of it. What a (((coincidence))).

>>14744058

You imply I paid for skullgirls or buy DLC. I'm not apathetic for simply not crying for the hundredth time about it, anon. I'm aware about it. I'm just tired of the constant bitching and sometimes would just like to talk about games on this board. Somehow, little by little this board turned into a warzone.

Sorry if I sounded like a corporate shill, I'm just tired. We get it they're kikes, fuck them. but we've been preaching to each other so much, just put it in action outside this board.

Polite sage for off-topic.

>>14744092

I would have agreed if a ton of religious censorship weren't in games where the religion of the game is supposed to have an obvious correlation to the Catholic church or even be the Catholic church itself. For example, the censorship of religious symbolism in La Pucelle eroded the very premise of the game that you were playing as a team of exorcists with obvious correlation to Catholicism.

>>14744079

You weren't tired enough to defend censorship for 17 post and argue against multiple anons about this topic. You're a censorship shill through and through. Just shut the fuck up and go to the fighting game thread or any other forum to talk about this game.

>>14744092

That's still a bad excuse to justify censorship. You don't need to censor you just need to have an ounce of originality. NGE has religious symbolism in it and it doesn't really have anything to do with christianity.

>>14744038

What makes you think that people haven't made any noise? This is the only place left where such things can even be talked about or criticized in the open without getting banned for wrongthink. Try and voice these opinions anywhere else and you get promptly removed from the discussion. Our voices are heard, people just don't give a damn and they keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again until it becomes unbearable for consumer and developer alike. We are hand-waved away as "those ridiculous nerds" or "bullies" or whatever else. Just because we are passionate about something, we are deemed as non-people and because of that, our opinions don't matter.

For a good example of putting our foot down, look at the news about DmC. It was a horrible reboot, journos did every possible form of damage control to convince people otherwise. Then when our criticism was heard, it was turned against us and warped as "nerds complain because wrong hair color", and that complaint was completely made up on their ends. People got so pissed they bought the DMC remasters and when the sales of that exceeded DmC's sales, we got DMC4:SE, and DMC5 is supposedly on the way. Thankfully the remasters were an avenue for that kind of revolt. All of that happened because we had imageboards as a place to discuss it in the open.

My point is that we need to discuss and clarify our ideas to a laser point before heading out into the open. We cannot know our enemy if we do not dissect the enemy.

>>14744125

no. But that wasn't the topic. Censorship was the topic and it fucking sucks

>>14743983

What does it matter? The restaurant exists to make money, not for good soup. If they can make more money by exchanging their current audience for a larger one it would be stupid not to.

>>14744125

>Am I the only one who hates fan service,

No, there are lots of other faggots out there.

You might be at home in >>>/cuteboys/

>>14743999

Checked.

If someone censors tits or panties, it's because of prudish faggotry or being afraid of hags and orbiting retarded cucks bitching and it's fucking pathetic and we're gonna poetically exterminate it once and for all by the end of all this.

>>14744106

>>14744113

Ah, I see. Alright, I concede.

>>14744109

That's a fair point. You can bypass the sjw and talk to devs though

>>14744113

I never defended censorship you overreacting faggot. I conceded because, in this case, it is pure idealogy and agenda pushing. Censorship in videogames is not a good thing, but if its a business practice the only thing you can do is vote with your wallet and call them out or judge by yourself depending on each case. sperging out cyclically and internally doesn't achieve anything but tire each other.

The censorship in skullgirls is still trivial in comparison to other censored games and every anon should judge by themselves if the magnitude of the censorship impedes their purchase or even piracy to try it out. There are numerous cases where the game is good, like in Xenoblade Chronicles X, although it was censored for the west I still believe it was worth playing. You're trying to go Black vs white, I was debating each case scenario is different and you shouldn't be a little sheep and apply critical thinking yourself.

Again, principle matters, but what about when the artist's hand is forced? what about when the gameplay is 10/10 and the game looks great but they removed a bikini outfit? in this case I pirate, but I'm not denying myself a good experience because of one small censorship. how can i support the series without supporting the people who censor it?

>>14744137

If the restaurant is putting out a soup so shitty that people can make something better at home, that restaurant isn't going to last long. Most restaurants go under within a year for managing themselves on your line of reasoning.

>>14744011

We would also have no exclusives. But if you forfeit a transgressor forever regardless of what they do afterward, what is in it for them to not just keep censoring?

>>14744164

>We would also have no exclusives.

Who cares what games you have when they're all tarnished anyway?

> if you forfeit a transgressor forever regardless of what they do afterward, what is in it for them to not just keep censoring?

Nothing, including money. They die, and become an example to others.

>>14744150

>You can bypass the sjw and talk to devs though

No you can't. I already talked about why that's not possible here >>14744000

The SJW gaming press act as a buffer between devs and customers and al the very same ones whispering these lies into their ears.

That and the only time developers deign to speak with the consumer, it's on liberal echo chambers like NeoGAF and now ResetEra.

>>14744150

The point is, you're only steering the industry towards a crash instead of TALKING and giving your feedback so the companies can stop censorship practices.

What I fear is aggressive boycotting resulting in the death of series that you may like. Isn't that a heavy price to pay to remove censorship? taking the IP along with it?

This is why making noise and giving feedback is important.

>>14744188 Hortler'd

>video game industry crash

>a bad thing

go back shill

>>14744125

>am I the only fag

Not at all.

>>14744150

>I never defended censorship

You absolutely did. You even almost got a bingo.

>>14744188

>kill a series before it can be raped further

yes please

>>14744188

>you're only steering the industry towards a crash

This is how everyone knows you're an outsider who will never fit in here. You came from somewhere else, and that's where you should return.

>What I fear is aggressive boycotting resulting in the death of series that you may like. Isn't that a heavy price to pay to remove censorship? taking the IP along with it?

The alternative is that you keep buying those games and they continue being tainted. You refuse to understand and/or accept that those series are already lost to you. They're already dead, and the goal isn't saving them anymore, it's trying not to lose any more.

>This is why making noise and giving feedback is important.

The only noise that matters is you uttering the words "I will not buy your game." The only feedback that matters is your money staying in your wallet.

>>14744227

I never talked about localizing sequels though.

>>14744232

>I never talked about localizing sequels though.

> like in Xenoblade Chronicles X, although it was censored for the west I still believe it was worth playing.

Kill yourself

>>14744232

I counted it when you said

>killing IPs

which would imply sequels, domestic and imports/localizations. I'll admit it's a bit shaky, but keep talking and I'm sure you'll give me a much more solid victory.

>>14743572

It's the principle of the thing really, as well as the fact that they didn't fucking tell anyone which pantyshots got removed and thus we needed autists to compile screenshots of both the old, pantshot-inclusive frames and the censored frames.

If they just said "changed animations X, Y and Z" they wouldn't have gotten as much flak for censorship.

They'd have still caught shit, but it wouldn't have been a full-blown shitstorm, just a bit of shit

>>14744191

None of my arguments were countered besides not doing it at all out of principle, which I can agree upon.

Saying "no it is not because i say so" or counting arguments with a bingo card is not a counter argument.

Again, I'm not defending censorship, the only thing I highlighted was that it is not black or white, every case is different/context matters, and that we should try and salvage IPs instead of nuking everything and wiping the slate clean.

>fingerpointing like a middle schooler "NUH UH YOURE NOT MY FRIEND YOU SAID THIS " instead of having a civilized discussion

>>14744224

Been browsing 8ch since 2014 and used to back cuckchan before that pre-exodus, starting 2007. simply because I disagree on how to solve an issue doesn't mean I'm an outsider. This is not a hive mind. Over-reacting to dissent is what the left does. Calm down.

>>14744274

As elaborated upon this thread, I explained that I am not defending their act but rather highlighting that the magnitude of the censorship is trivial and the reaction should be equal to its magnitude. Someone argued principle and that it was an ideology. I conceded since if we go that route, he is correct.

>>14744245

this. i actually don't even have a horse in this race because i'm not a skullgirls guy or even a fightan guy but not only is a retroactive censoring completely bullshit but it's extra disingenuous because a large part of its prerelease marketing (at least the stuff i saw) was the cute girls. doing something like this now that the game has been released and you've already gotten the nerds' money is the classic bait and switch and should be punishable by fucking law

>>14744299

I'm criticizing your reaction towards it, not defending censorship. As an externality, perhaps indirectly. But not directly or my intent.

You're either not very smart or you're being pedantic.

>>14744292

So you're saying that we should attack less so that Lab Zero shouldn't need to defend themselves.

Still pretty basic bitch corporate droning you're doing anon. What is the magnitude of attack that we have inflicted upon Lab Zero? If they're too much of a bitch company to actually converse and earn an audience then they deserve to fail.

>>14743930

>Filia/Fukua

>???

The OP literally shows a pantyshot changed for filia you apologist.

>>14744292

Honestly, you make a good point but /v/ has largely made up its mind to shit on Skullgirls in particular, and any game that changes anything in particular.

I agree that context should matter when approaching this. But lab zero also did themselves no favor with allowing Mike and Render to say anything on social media and their forums. I think you've noted thus upstream.

I really wonder how many people were even aware of those few frames before they were removed.

>>14744323

What fucking points did he make?

From a principle perspective it was fucked

From a business perspective it was fucked

From a specific context perspective it was fucked.

We don't need two apologist in this thread

>I really wonder how many people were even aware of those few frames before they were removed.

And once again, if so many people were unaware of it then why did they need to take it out. It would have been less effort to just not delete them.

>>14744322

It's also missing all the KO pantyshots that were censored too.

>>14744323

>Fanservice-fueled fighter

>fanservice is removed

The fact that people noticed they were gone should already show that people noticed.

>>14744335

>What fucking points did he make?

That people have raged over this topic for years more than they raged about arguably worse instances of scummy censorship like what Capcom has done over the years.

It's fucked. I'm not apologizing for anyone and if you'd read it's easy to see that. I actually payed for the game and dropped it eventually. But it was shut like their poor management of their Igg campaign. And their uninteresting designs that bothered me more than some sprites. This rage is more a spectator rage than someone who was actually invested in the game. Although I speak for myself.

>>14744342

ID'S were a mistake because you can't just join a thread without being accused of a (1) and done.

>>14744311

Yes.

At the very least try and give feedback with high numbers but with civil tone. If they do not converse, then highlight how they are ignoring it and make noise how they are ignoring their backers and players, and slowly tune it up. But sperging on the front door achieves nothing.

>>14744316

I'll make it my last post anon.

>>14744323

Then they are in the wrong by playing ignore and sweep under the rug. Ultimately after that the only thing one can do is sublimate said frustration positively and use OC/content to make noise and raise awareness. And that already happens when /v/ sublimates their anger with humor.

It would be great to raise awareness of practices like these. Even if its just 10 people not buying it out of the other 2000, every bit helps to shift the industry. but it all stays in here and nothing is achieved

.>>14744342

Nigger please. I'm not gonna VPN switch. If people disagree with me on how to deal with that's totally cool.

>>14744335

From a business perspective, depending on the context, they can pull it off to turn a T game into E for broader audience.

>>14744292

>rather highlighting that the magnitude of the censorship is trivial and the reaction should be equal to its magnitude.

And this is why you're wrong and retarded. Any amount of censorship is too much censorship. The reaction to censorship should be universal in its rejection and disdain for it. No act of censorship is too small, every act of censorship is too big.

>>14744379

Especially because with leftists if you give them an inch they'll take a mile, and keep going.

>>14744392

>By your logic Super Mario RPG shouldn't be supported and it should be boycotted because they changed bowser's victory pose not to be offensive.

Pretty much. Why should what was done in Super Mario RPG be okay? Because the game is popular? Will you support your wife's baby after it comes out brown?

>>14744388

Mayoi a shit

>>14744392

>Super Mario RPG shouldn't be supported and it should be boycotted because they changed bowser's victory pose not to be offensive.

Now you're getting it.

>>14744392

>You clearly do not work in the industry if you think censorship hasn't happened throughout the decades of video game history.

When the fuck did I say that you mongoloid fuck?

You think that just because its happened before it means its okay to happen again?

>>14744400

A wife cheating on you is a completely different level of wrong than changing one cool victory pose for another, anon.

>>14744392

>These problems occurred in the past, so we're no longer allowed to raise our standards, fix our mistakes, and demand improvement.

Seriously, if you'd be kind enough to kill yourself, the world would be better. This isn't really a joke, the world could use less of you.

>>14744405

So bad metaphors are only okay when you do it Soup guy? Fuck off.

>>14744405

>changing one cool victory pose for another

You keep doing this: rounding off the edges to things so that they seem interchangeable. Removing context from situations so that they're easier to dismiss.

>>14744412

It's because he's concern trolling.

He's really good at it too.

But at the end of the day, he's trolling.

>>14744405

So who is supposed to decide when censorship is okay or not? You? What metric are we supposed to use to get approval from your enlightened, centrist self?

>>14744416

>He's really good at it too.

Not really. He's yet to make a good argument why once form of censorship is supposedly less bad than another, nor has he defined what type of metric is to be used to determine bad censorship from "good" censorship.

>>14744402

>>14744400

The point is there needs to be a balance. You can raise standards and demand improvement without sperging out. You have to do it in a civil manner and through feedback and open dialogue, not by claiming a radical standpoint that will not happen. You have to be realistic.

>>14744412

Because context matters you retard. A victory pose being changed is passable. Changing Starfire to black int he next Live Teen Titans movie is not because it clearly alienates fans. It's common sense.

>>14744424

From an ideal standpoint, censorship is not ok. From a realistic standpoint, censorship will happen, and the developer should aim to make it least alienating as possible, or rather, compensate for the lost content with new one. This is one way where censorship would be passable, by following corporate order while not disappointing fans.

>>14744433

In that case, yes. They went full retard and alienated their fans. It depends on the case. That's stage 2 of the issue already and the only thing fans can do now is tune up the volume

>>14744434

>because it clearly alienates fans

And changing the pose to appease leftist cucks like you isn't going to piss people off?

>>14744392

It's also worth noting that Nintendo only got away with censoring SMRPG (and when I say "got away with", I mean "only pissed people off in retrospect") because at the time nobody knew any better.

When a change was made to a game, you simply didn't know. There was nobody to tell you, no internet, and your friend saying "You know, in the Japanese version…" was more likely to be an absurd rumor than the truth.

>>14744434

>You can raise standards and demand improvement without sperging out. You have to do it in a civil manner and through feedback and open dialogue, not by claiming a radical standpoint that will not happen. You have to be realistic.

If you want to be "realistic" then you need to come to terms with the single most important fact here; money talks and bullshit walks.

> context matters

The only context that matters is whether or not the content is legal in the nation it is being published in. Nothing in a Japanese console game will ever violate this, and therefore it is always unacceptable to censor it.

>From an ideal standpoint, censorship is not ok. From a realistic standpoint, censorship will happen

From a realistic standpoint it will happen because of apologists like you and the poor self-control that gamers are notorious for. You're the cause, you're the problem, and again I highly advocate suicide.

>censorship would be passable

The only thing that I would like to see censored is your life.

>>14744433

>Because chuckle fucks like you have the need to defend lab zero whenever this comes up

Quote where I defended the censorship. You can't in the two posts I made. I just don't subscribe to the "every crime is equal in the eyes of God" argument because ultimately nonode gets this mad over blood being green in Japanese games because of literal government censorship. Or over how e-sports affected dozens of titles.

It's clear gamers have a barometer on what is "worse" acts of censorship and I'm confused why 3 frames in a fan service ridden game gets people who probably didn't even buy the game this upset.

>>14744424

>Not really. He's yet to make a good argument

Concern trolls don't have to present good arguments. They simple need to disingenuously express concern about an issue in order to undermine or derail genuine discussion.

>>14744444

Common sense quints.

>>14744465

Nobody is defending lab zero.

>>14744444

Nobody is appeasing sjws. Censorship also happens to turn T games into E. This is very common. Also to sell games on China. There are different types of censorship, not all of them are to push agendas. Some are just to make more money, and I'd argue the majority.

Nice numbers though

>>14744465

Because some "indie" games don't waste all of their funding on hiring warehouses of pahjeets to code some 100GB mess of stock assets.

>>14744323

He cucked so hard that he should be forced to piss sitting down for the rest of his days and he sure as hell won't get my money after insulting me with such idiocy.

>>14744434

Zero tolerance is perfectly realistic, context is irrelevant, and if they want my money those suits will have to take both into account.

>>14744444

Duly checked.

>>14744465

Anyone who bows to the progressive cult will have one so long as they don't blaspheme their god Equality. Realistically, Mike thought he was being slick trying to pander to them because their next game wasn't even a fighter and they didn't need their old fanbase anymore.

>>14744434

Censorship isn't okay from any point of view because if you can censor one thing, you can censor another. Unfortunately, the people doing the censorship have gotten so good at controlling the narrative regarding censorship that we went from "This is unacceptable, period" to "Realistically, it's going to happen" and now we're practically at "Is it possible to discuss this censorship in mainstream social media without being called pedophiles and losing our jobs?"

>>14744482

>to turn T games into E

And? The ESRB isn't a regulatory agency and soccer moms buy M rated games like Halo and CoD for their kids by the millions. The only reason it exists is to stop some bored senator's wife from shitting up video games like they did to the music and comics industries.

>>14744496

They have complete legal control over their IPs, anon. That's their property. Meanwhile with Media, being a pedo is fucked up and that's nobodys property.

But I agree. As stated, there needs to be a balance. The issue is the other side uses it as a gateway and slow-boil effect to pull toward their side. From this argument a zero tolerance effect is totally understandable.

>>14744452

You claimed he made good points on censorship when it is clear as day that he hasn't. I said that same idiots LIKE you keep defending this censorship everytime that this pops up. Censorship is censorship, I'm not going to stand for it from a missing panty shot to a completely removed outfits or DLC. There is no need to take content out of games people pay for and it is egregious that corporate dick suckers like you and the other one want us to shut up about it and buy it anyway. Doubling down on it, handwaiving the issue, and pretending like it's no big deal like you're doing now is what really pisses people off even more.

kill yourself

>>14744465

Goons. Sjws on their side. FGC who still play this game trying to build up an audience that they and lab zero have actively pushed away with this shit.

>>14744482

You defended lab zero at the very beginning of this thread.

Now that you're shifting the argument like every goon would you tell us the merit of changing a T rated game to E.

>>14744506

You're delusional if you think it doesn't affect sales.

>>14744522

woah there, when did anyone say It's a cultural difference, bingoanon? or the excuse to whine one. You're trying too hard now.

>>14744518

Who are you and why do you want us as consumers to look at this from a business perspective? How does this make the game better? The reason we are here is because we like playing videogames, not talking about videogame sales

>>14744527

No one is falling for your BS, hooknose.

>>14744508

(31) fucking posts defending censorship. Just for you, when I release my game I'm going to do a second pass on everything to make it more lewd and obscene, documenting every change. Swinging tiddies and Bix Nood villains shall be your eternal reward.

>>14744518

Just looking at the sales charts would suggest that developers should be shooting for an M rating rather than the other way around.

>>14744527

I'm only pointing at you and you prove it quite well as you are trying to justify censorship, defending vidya publishers, and shifting arguments as every point you make keeps getting blown out of the water.

>>14743614

>Triggering 8ch doesn't matter since they just pirate games anyway and would never buy it legit. Also bad Pr is better than no PR

Just like how nobody bought Neir Automata or Dragon's Dogma a second time or….

Go away jew.

>>14744508

Are you honestly saying you think that being the owner of an IP somehow makes you immune to pressure to censor? That's not true in the least. I can start a dev studio, and if I happen to have a hot girl in my game, journos are either going to run hit pieces on my game or just never cover it at all to reduce awareness of it. For a staring company, that can be more than enough pressure for the owner of the IP to self-censor. Owning an IP has zero fucking influence on whether or not someone will bow to pressure to censor.

Also, you seem to have a Jason Schrier tier understanding of accusations of pedophilia by SJWs. Let me explain how it really works. When Bravely Default was censored, it censored a costume to add more fabric to the crotch area of a girl's outfit. Anyone against this censorship was accused of being a pedophile. Here's where you're going wrong, though: nobody was actually a pedo. It was just SJWs talking out of their ass to make people against censorship look bad.

>>14744531

Cultural is when you justified the censorship in China, and the whining is from the beginning of the thread when you called anons hypersensitive for a minor issue and when you called their reactions spergy and overreacting. Keep digging yourself deep you fucking faggot.

>>14744552

>anything capcuck pulled

don't people still shit on capcom for the thing with r.mika though?

>>14744539

>contributing on a thread is somehow a bad thing

So we should just post once or twice casually without enticing discussion? You're encouraging being a casual.

>>14744547

Not my opinion, it's just the truth. If 8ch was mainstream, it would be different.

>>14744544

I'm not justifying censorship. I'm just being realistic. My three main arguments where regarding how to deal with censorship, not defending it. You're not very bright.

>>14744551

Well yeah that's pretty fucked up of SJWs.

>>14744555

Calling it out on bingo cards is hardly countering my statement regarding selling to China

>>14744557

>don't people still shit on capcom for the thing with r.mika though?

Yeah, but they bought SF5.

>>14744557

Yes, but look at how Capcom was brought up and ignored by other anons. As well as their e-sports policy yet this thread is still focused on Lab Zero and their shit. SFV was a bigger shitshow and so was how they raped the PS3 darkstalkers game yet nobody puts more than a post or two behind it.

Why is Skull girls this hated when what they did was smaller than other companies? And why if all censorship is equal, are we talking about one game almost exclusively when the OP listed multiple games?

Did FE tales of Valantis have much censorship? I remember the uproar Fates caused.

>>14744557

Don't forget nerfing Cammy's nipples.

>>14744574

because of this post >>14743572

>>14744582

Capcom is hit and miss these days. SFV and MvCi missed its sales targets by a mile. Res Vii did OK but not great and Monster Hunter World hit it right out the ball park.

SFV and MvCi both deserved to under perform like they did.

>>14744552

Its stupid that you don't go with that Idea as companies continues to censor more without consumer pushback but people here do as they can rightfully see that censorship happy companies continue to push further.

>Quote me on anything else if you want to have a point

I read your first post nigger

>Honestly, you make a good point but /v/ has largely made up its mind to shit on Skullgirls in particular, and any game that changes anything in particular.

He didn't bring up any good points and you backed him on the fact that what they did didn't deserve the shit that they got. You are wrong in the fact that they do deserve the amount of shit they recieved as lab zero publicly defended their decision even though it was a fan service game and the people who funded their game should have made that decision.

>>14744574

And once again capcucks don't mindlessly defend that as hard as you are with censoring the frames. That's why there is resentment and increased animosity against lab zero you delusional fuck

>>14744557

They do. but they don't make +100 posts defending it unlike Lab Zero shills

>>14744570

You justified censorship. It's not realistic as Lab Zero didn't have to censor at all and businesses shouldn't cave to SJWs. and your arguments on how to deal with them have been proven to be ineffective as fuck since these companies are too ideologically inclined to push through with their decisions.

kill yourselves please

>>14744582

So why is a small studio game more discussion worthy over a major company that still influences the medium? Or is it just people raging because of stuff like what >>14744586 pointed out? Because lab zero isn't worth this much attention.

>>14744527

The goon is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a goon and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

>>14744549

>No, most people in the west hate fan service. You're the majority.

Totally wrong. They're a vocal minority at best.

>>14744578

>>14744602

None that I know of, but it did have fucking cancerous DLC practices.

>>14744619

Because Lab Zero has apologists, and that's pretty much it. Besides the kinds of people convinced that Crapcom's censorship is okay are well beyond the point of no return. They'll always support censorship, in fact they welcome it.

>>14744619

>Because lab zero isn't worth this much attention.

It's not worth discussion so why are you defending them? The topic of censorship is worth discussion as this has been an issue throughout time.

You can make a capcom hate thread and I will be right beside you to shit on capcom shills but you haven't. You just want us to not tarnish your precious game or your corporate masters

>>14744616

Anon. The point I agree with is the one you are proving. Your this angry and defensive when I'm not a member of the lab zero defense force. How is this not clear to you?

>>14744570

>(35)

>>14744582

I think they mostly just publish games these days.

>>14743970

>banned

but we cant laugh at his retarded posts if they are banned!

>>14744570

>Calling it out on bingo cards is hardly countering my statement regarding selling to China

>I didn't do this

>Yes you did, see X

>Well pointing out I did it doesn't change anything never mind that it means I am lying to you right now

>>14743600

just having tits doesn't necessarily make it a good game anon

and before you said that's not what you said, it's what you implied

>>14744720

Yeah, good tits don't make a good game, but no tits certainly make for a bad one.

>>14744769

It's a shitty korean grind mmo with fanservice and skimpy outfits being one of the main draws. It's dumb as hell to remove or lessen one of the main draws of the game.

Spiral Knights

>game is a level based dungeon crawler, with 30 changing levels(depending on resources) that ends with a cliffhanger of the planet's core

>spend 5 years doing jack shit with the game, no new content sans some high level recolors, no new items, besides some broken shit, and no new modes or levels sans a godawful PvP mode that shows just how shit the netcode of the game is

>introduce some shitty pets system that actually strips away level combinations because of the six resources that are used to randomize the levels(and give money to those depositing them), three of those resources are now pumped into these shitty fucking pokemon ripoff pets that do nothing but fart a buff or a debuff every six centuries

>completely decimate the upgrade and progression system in the game by changing upgrade materials to tiered orbs that were handed out like hotcakes for the first week and then took a month of grinding and luck to even get one, and even then it's no guarantee it's the tier you want

>moreover decimate any teamwork a party would have by having downed members be revived by a consumable(instead of sacrificing half one's current health and it having a long term effect on everything) and having loot be individualized instead of everyone getting the same loot, so now everyone has to waste the time to collect every single drop of heat and coin instead of one guy just picking it up for everyone in the party and it being given to the whole party

>buy the game from Sega and then sit on it doing nothing

>>14744819

What are you doing on this website if censorship is not a thing you care about? Wouldn't 4chan be perfect for you then?

>>14744819

Let It Die is fucking garbage

>>14744823

It is, but it's got some top-tier art design and music.

>>14744823

The game has ONE flaw, one single fatal flaw that ruins the ENTIRE game: items break too fucking quickly.

If they doubled or even tripled item duration then a lot of the game's other problems wouldn't be as apparent. You wouldn't run out of money constantly buying weapons and armor, you wouldn't die as much because your armor wouldn't become destroyed so often, you'd have the money to revive your character because you didn't spend it all on items which means you wouldn't have to grind for coins to buy your character back, which means you could spend more time actually playing the fucking game.

After floor 30 it's like 45% of your time is spend trying to bring a character back, 45% is spend grinding/searching for research items and 10% of the time you're actually progressing through the tower.

>>14744831

Which side of the game's music are you referring to? The shitty rock and pop in the Toyko Death Metro or the ambient music in the tower?

>>14744831

The art is good but most of the game's music is also garbo, unless you like rock songs that sound like they're from 2003.

>>14744522

You really forgot the "some censorship is good". It is basically his whole point.

Skullgirls was shit from the start and no amount of T&A was ever going to rescue it.

>>14743970

I miss the day when /v/ actually had principles and didn't advocate for censoring opinions they couldn't handle, like this incredible hypocrite is.

>>14744934

How fucking autistic do you have to be to not see the raw hilarity of giving a pro-censorship cuck a taste of their own medicine?

When you're not too busy being retarded, kill yourself.

>>14743739

Cammy has an impressively toned crotch split.

If they removed that, they killed a work of art.

>>14744969

When is a ban not censorship in your opinion?

>>14744972

When someone is spamming a thread, obviously

Sorry but art is dead, you can thank capitalism and normalfags for that

>>14744993

You should take your censorship-loving ass back to halfchan, the whole reason this place even exists was to escape censorship over there.

>>14744997

Oh, the retard who doesn't understand irony is back. Done sucking cock already?

>>14744999

I'm going to pity you for being yet another lolsoironic weebposting loser.

>>14744915

You got shit taste in music, anon

>>14743614

>From a business perspective, they did the right thing

Skullgirls is still dead and only managed to break a million sales years after release and had to resort to kickstarted to even fund DLC.

What an amazing business move

>>14745015

>get BTFO

>a-anyway, back on this thread…

How about instead of getting back on topic you get back to reddit.

>>14745015

>Changing the subject

Doesn't make you less of a censorship apologist.

>>14744997

>banning and deleting retarded shitposters is bad just becuz "hurr respek muh opinions"

>>14745015

Is that actually censorship? Sounds more like scummy business practices and shoddy coding.

>>14745028

Is this only thread about censorship or any games retroactively ruined?

>>14745028

>Is that actually censorship

No its not, its just an attempt by a censorship apologist to change subjects. Kind of like how a cephalopod releases ink. The truth is he loves censorship and wouldn't dare mention any cases of it.

>>14743814

I'm glad people like you are still around and I agree with you.

>>14745037

I honestly forgot what the thread was supposed to be about.

>>14745039

>No its not, its just an attempt by a censorship apologist to change subjects.

Wow, criticizing hypocrisy makes me a censorship apologist? You can either choose to defend all forms of expression or you're not an enemy of censorship.

>>14745021

What are you talking about? I said the rock music in Let It Die isn't good.

>>14745063

>its hypocrisy to censor pro-censorship cucks

No it isn't you unbelievable retard. It's both hilarious and fucking justice.

Face it, you're assblasted because you were too stupid to understand a joke and then got mocked for it.

>>14745015

That kind of thing is bad behavior as well on the company.

>>14744433

Man have they even finished anything related to this game? I recall them trying incessantly to get my dosh once I bought into their campaign once.

>>14744465

Alex Ahad makes some fine hourglasses and guro and they use him as bait to get people to defend the devs, also what the other anon said, goons love people who cave in to their demands.

>>14745020

You can't blame their failure on that, considering there are many factors why skullgirls bombed. Mainly it's content drought while competition had monthly updates.

>>14745342

this. It's pathetic seeing people fall for fanservice.

>>14745342

>The fag is back

So I take it you really did go to /cuteboys/?

>>14745370

True. It was a question.

Odd that you didn't say "no" though.

>>14745342

>Would anybody give a shit about craniumgrillz if the roster was all monsters/human males?

This, thank you. Skullgirls sucks, the only good thing is the porn (some of it).

>>14745387

Man it's like skullgirl's premise was focused around cute girls or something.

>>14743562

Didn't GTA5 remove any Confederate flags from their redneck expansion?

>>14745414

No, that's fake news.

Various animations in SP cutscenes got fucked up after Online updates and will probably never get fixed cuz they don't care about SP anymore though.

>>14745342

Fan service is shit but censoring is something I will always despise.

>>14745350

Why haven't you killed yourself yet

>>14745342

Despite our differences, you are right here.

>>14745387

You got mocked so viciously you're too scared to make your own posts now. Just sitting around waiting for someone to "me too!"

You're fucking pathetic.

>>14745476

the only one who needs to be gassed is you

For being unable to deal with dissenting opinions

>>14745514

Your opinions are precisely why you should kill yourself. Just because your opinions are dissenting doesn't mean they're valid or that you deserve to live.

>>14745499

You seem awfully hung up on this anon.

>>14745524

You misunderstand, mocking retards is just a hobby of mine.

>>14745533

>n-no UR pathetic! U should die!

Epic response tard boy.

>>14745533

>you're just as bad as SJWs

there it is

>>14745533

le epin horseshoe anon xD u sure showed 'em fascists xddddd

>>14745533

There is literally nothing wrong with censoring people who are pro-censorship. If there is such a thing as good censorship, that would be it.

Censorship apologists like you will be lined up against the wall next to the rest of the enemies of free speech.

>>14745561

>Except when it involves something I don't like!

Hey retard, you're not fooling anyone with your false-equivalencies.

When you use your freedom of speech and expression to limit people's freedom of speech and expression, then you are using it wrong and need to be stopped.

That isn't hypocrisy its self-preservation.

Thanks for sticking around though, retards are always good for a laugh.

>>14745514

>>14745533

dealing with differeing opinions by posting smug anime girls is the right way?

And we did deal with you by explaining why your opinions and thoughts on how to deal with censorship was shit and you had no reasoning to back it. The opinions you held were shit and you shut up rightfully so. There was no orwellian oppression, you had your chance to speak and everyone told you to shut the fuck up.

>>14745557

No. let them out themselves.

>>14745561

I sincerely hope you're just trolling, otherwise that other anon is totally right about you being retarded.

>>14745574

>dealing with differing opinions by posting anime girls

people did this on the thread way before me, you fucking double standard faggot. SJWs deal with this too. Good job.

>>14745551

Point still stands

>>14745541

No better than direct insulting without any substance in the post.

>>14745586

You've gotten enough legitimate responses today goon. Now we're just going to laugh at you for being wrong and too stupid to know when to pack it in.

Hey bingoanon, you still here? I'm sure this retard has earned a few new squares.

>>14745596

>being wrong

Except this entire thread has been incredibly subject in how to approach the censorship situation. One side wants to nuke everything, I offered to surgically salvage depending on the case. Nothing else.

>>14745586

>people did this on the thread way before me, you fucking double standard faggot.

I'd like to point out that this is the second time this mouth-breathing mongoloid has tried to use "but other people have done it!" to defend something. First it was censorship, now it's his own shitposts.

This is what a room-temperature IQ poster looks like.

>>14745606

>(40)

nigga it's time to stop posting

>>14745586

>people did this on the thread way before me, you fucking double standard faggot.

And people thoroughly articulated their points as well.

The only double standard faggot here is you.

>>14745606

>>14745606

>I offered to surgically salvage depending on the case.

You offered excuses, compromises and apologist rhetoric and you were roundly mocked and derided for it.

If you had even an ounce of self-awareness you'd understand why this is, but you don't. It's okay, not a lot of autists do.

>>14745611

>>14745619

>(32)

>complaining about my numbers of posts

>ad populum "everybody thinks this way, therefore you are wrong"

only a few people made proper discussion and those are the ones in which I stated I agreed depending on the case in which it is applied, or from the standpoint you see it from. The rest was just smug anime girls, direct insults, counting bingoshit, and nothing of substance. Don't fucking pretend there was a discussion here. This entire thread is a reminder /v/ is so paranoid anyone who disagrees is suddenly a shill or goon.

>>14745607

>This is what a room-temperature IQ poster looks like.

In a refrigerated room maybe, 6b46c9 is dumb as fuck.

>>14745641

My IQ is 145. nice try non-Mensa pleb.

>>14745632

Hey retard, I know this is probably your first time raiding /v/, but you should learn how IDs work first. I wasn't the one mocking your post count.

This is what desperation looks like. Watch him squirm.

>Don't fucking pretend there was a discussion here.

You got more than you deserved in terms of discussion. Almost every one of your ridiculous posts was met with not just ridicule but posts detailing why you were completely wrong. Everyone replying to you now knows this and anyone who cares can read the thread and learn this. You aren't fooling anyone chump.

You're a shitty concern troll who doesn't know when the jig is up. SA's standards must be slipping.

>>14745681

>trying to talk sense into someone who thinks censorship is a good idea

>>14745491

>don quixote with a gun rapier

only good one

>>14745662

>He continues with the ad-populum

>"everyone here thinks youre smelly haha so you must be smelly"

This entire topic is subjective. mocking someone for liking green over blue is the equivalent of your post.

This is the objective reality:

Censorship is not going anywhere. You either deal with it or you can go to your safe space and pretend it doesn't exist. It's been done to movies, to games, to books, and it will always be a thing. What matters is thinking for yourself and knowing when censorship doesn't affect the product and when it crosses the line.

The zero tolerance argument only works on idealistic SJW when it is palpable they are simply pushing a narrative or it has absolutely no space there. But a bikini to turn a T to an E? sperging over something so minuscule? it's pathetic. That's not gonna change. The devs could be based as fuck and redpilled as it can get but it won't change, because E makes more money. You will never have the uthopia of 0 Censorship. Just think of all the products that have been censored and the public is not even aware content did not make the cut. We should also ban Banjo Tooie while we're at it because it was gonna have real guns instead of Kazzoie.

All I ever argued was balance and common sense. You argue complete radical "if you censor a pixel we will boycott it".

>>14745681

I'm aware he's trying to bait. It bothers me that people do not wish to entail in discussion and rather shitpost anyone who has a dissenting opinion. It's sad.

>>14745694

>Nigger Quixote.

>Good.

As a Spaniard, this offends me. Should I sue?

>>14745689

Every now and again I can get someone off the ledge.

>>14745701

>It's sad.

Whether you're right or wrong at this point you're more than aware that both the thread and individual posters do not agree with your stance. What do you actually hope to gain here knowing that?

>>14745701

>>"everyone here thinks youre smelly haha so you must be smelly"

It's funny you call yourself smelly because all of your posts are shit.

>Censorship is not going anywhere. You either deal with it or you can go to your safe space and pretend it doesn't exist.

I see you're not one to break from tradition. This–like all of your posts so far–is wrong. When you encounter censorship you can deal with it by withdrawing your support from that company. You can refuse to buy their products and spread awareness about their cancerous practices. Throwing your arms up in defeat and saying "Well censorship isn't going anywhere, take my money Mr. Kikenburg" is what a pussy does, but don't let me stop you.

There's a difference between us. The difference is that I am a man of principles and you're not a man at all.

>>14745721

He's just shitting up the thread at this point.

>>14745701

>>14745701

Censorship doesn't go anywhere because people like you keep excusing it. We deal with it by not accepting any amount of it, and this is a choice a lot of people on this site do. These are called principles and I don't compromise on them. It prevents shit from getting worse. I'm not going to roll over so SJWs like you can continue to fuck up games. I'm going to raise hell every time this line of thinking even comes up.

>All I ever argued was balance and common sense

Do you even believe the shit you say?

>>14745728

you sound like those christ-fags that won't have sex because you can't have sex until you marry.

every consumer should judge for themselves like the free men they are whether a product is worth purchasing or not. You can always pirate if you don't like the company. If you read the thread I actually already stated what you said. I'm not talking about /v/, I'm talking about the general market. most people will not have the principles you do. It's like voting green party. I'm just being pragmatic.

>>14745721

Someone already called him out on it, he's concern trolling. Keeping fruitful discussion from taking place with his (40) posts of concern trolling bullshit.

>>14745746

>y-you sound like this strawman i just made!

Oof, talk about desperate.

>>14745753

>smug anime girl shitpost

I'm not in a corner at all. /v/ keeps being radical about fighting the good fight when it is just the 0.1% of the market, if even the target market at all. The reality is censorship happens not only due to SJWism, but also because they wish to gain money by widening the audience. You're free to skip on a good game because it doesn't have the lewd bikini from the jap version. most people won't skip on the game because of this. This is the truth.

What do you hope to achieve by simply crippling yourself at this point? At least pirate the game and check it for yourself. The gameplay could be excellent and the devs not guilty of the censorship or shitty translation. the radical zero tolerance is anti-videogames. Its the same tolerance the left has to people who dont agree with them.

>>14745729

>>14745753

>(24)

>(35)

Any different than my high post count

The sum of both your numbers is more than my post count. If you think I'm trolling, which I'm not. Then simply don't reply.

polite sage for off-topic.

>>14745746

>every consumer should judge for themselves like the free men

Lmao you're going to sit there and talk about being a man while saying you should compromise your beliefs and give money to people for a butchered product.

You are fucking pathetic my dude.

>>14745769

For being 0.1% of the market you really seemed concerned about us just bending over backwards and accepting censorship. How about /v/ continues to not tolerate it at all and mock and deride people like you who do.

>>14745780

A man defending censorship to the death

>>14745776

The difference is that his posts aren't laughably pathetic. Yours are.

>>14745780

>What even is this thread?

skullgirls faggot being a faggot

>>14745784

Except I never stated you should purchase a product you don't like or you think it crosses the line. I stated you should judge by yourself if you want it or not.

You're not very smart.

>>14745780

(48) posts of "Guys censorship isn't that bad you just gotta accept it!"

Soon to be 49.

>>14745792

Everyone in this thread has judged for themselves if they want a censored product and given you a resounding "No, fuck off retard."

Yet you still don't understand. You're not very smart.

>>14745795

>(37)

>any voice to be counting posts

My argument is a zero tolerance policy is not constructive and people should be flexible enough to give exceptions to the rule because context matters and it is not black or white.

I welcome discussion, unlike you.

>>14745802

Censorship is for fags. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Vote with your wallet.

>>14745802

Still less posts than yours retard. And almost all of his posts are mocking you, like the majority of this thread lmao.

>>14745802

It's not the number retard, it's the content.

People are laughing at you for (49) pro-censorship posts.

Soon to be (50)

>>14745802

We heard your arguments and they were shit

>>14745820

Everyone in this thread told you to fuck off. But since you're not going to do that. Go for (250)

>>14745820

>Mocking for what

Being a retard.

That other anon is factually right btw, multiple anons have and are mocking you. He speaks for multiple people ITT. I wouldn't expect a retard to understand that.

>>14745805

Censorship is for fags. Censorship won't go away however . If a game is good but it is censored, it is up for debate whether the censorship is passable. I.e: content is added to compensate, the censorship doesn't affect gameplay, story or anything substantial and the person doesn't really care about 1 bikini or 1-frame being censored, but the gameplay is very good and done with effort.

The only argument you have going is doing it out of principle, but it is the same as voting green party. It won't win. . I applaud you for doing the right thing. You're sacrificing playing good games for a cause. However if you pirate it then beat it fully and not buy it, that's just hypocrisy. If you're going to pirate a game and enjoy it and don't pay for it, you're killing videogames more than people censoring so it can sell on china or turning it E for everyone.

>>14745850

>Implying I don't just use mods and cheatcodes to get the uncensored experience.

Up your's, nigger.

>>14745850

>pirating bad & even marginally compromised 'good' games is worse than funding them and allowing their continued creation & the downsliding trend connected to and of them

Just chiming in, to say a small thing, but: FFFFAAAAAGGGGGGGG.

>>14745850

>If a game is good but it is censored, it is up for debate whether the censorship is passable

The quality of the game drops for me when they decide to sell a censored product.

>you're killing videogames more than people censoring so it can sell on china or turning it E for everyone.

So advocating for letting the artist create is worse then letting the vidya industry continue to be this shambling zombie that can be chopped up and sold to normalfags and bugmen who eat shit anyway?

>>14745886

C'mon anon, you've been ITT long enough to know he's going to give you the same song and dance.

>s-so what if they censored something small like a character's design?! you should still buy it goy! principles are for losers!

>>14745877

You can voice your concerns to the devs and give your feedback instead of boycotting them for things that can be changed. Not all devs are SJWs, some are just trying to put their game on another country or make it E. if you voice your concern and state "this game is good but if you do this I cannot support you" has much more positive effect than wishing for a crash, which won't happen.

>>14745897

>wich won't happen

Soon Ren will make it happen. And not just in the stock market, my man. He is crashing the whole HQ.

>>14745891

You can have your principles and support a game you like. Who would've thought? Dialogue, giving feedback, going straight to devs. This should always be the first step. Step 2 (boycott) should only be done after it has been confirmed the dev won't change his ways, or only if the censorship is due agenda pushing. If the dev tells you the censorship is forced by publisher, or they have them tied by the balls, but the dev is actually really cool, that makes the situation more grey. It's not all black or white. context matters.

>>14745897

>You can voice your concerns to the devs and give your feedback instead of boycotting them

What the fuck do you think the purpose of a boycott is? No company is going to listen to a single tweet saying "stop censoring stuff or i wont buy your next game!" They won't even listen to a dozen people saying that, but when they see that their sales are being affected by the shitty practices you keep advocating for, they may realize what's wrong and change.

Not supporting them is the best and only way to enact change on a company. They wont give a shit what you have to say once they have your money.

>>14745909

>You can have your principles and support a game you like.

If that game is censored and I buy it anyway then I'm not staying true to my principles you double digit IQ prick.

It's been said before and I'll say it again for the benefit of retards like you; "Any amount of censorship is too much censorship."

You're free to be a cuck and compromise your beliefs–if you believe in anything other than sucking cock–but stop trying to force it on the rest of us.

>>14745891

I think he's purposefully ignoring me now

>>14745909

>>14745897

AAA companies don't listen to rational discussion because they only have a drone audience. They only respond to backlash now.

Any company that does take out panties after all the backlash is definitely ideologically inclined to continue to sensor and remove things that are sexually suggestive.

They don't deserve support, they deserve to die. Just like Lab Zero.

>>14745922

It seems you're unable to convey points. If anyone is in the spectrum here, it is you.

What I'm trying to convey is, if you're going to boycott something, at least aim and confirm before you shoot. Find out why/for what purpose before painting everybody the same color. Not every censorship is due to SJWs. Not every censorship is in the control of the dev.

>>14745927

Fair enough. Just don't get jaded and shoot some poor young indie caught in the blast because of this stance. That's all.

and no, I'm not a dev. I'm just alluring to some level of sense here.

>>14745949

> Just don't get jaded and shoot some poor young indie caught in the blast because of this stance.

A poor young indie wouldn't pull shit like this and we know you're not a dev. You're either a goon or shill. Kill yourself already

>>14744292

>I'm not defending censorship, I'm saying it doesn't really matter!

>censorship damage control

>I'm not defending gun control, they only banned assault rifles. It's not that bad!!

There is no objective line to cross for too much censorship like there is no point where telling yourself to go on a diet is life-saving. This is a slippery slope of a problem that can be prevented by never letting it grow.

Also for the topic: Minecraft. The bloat was insane, and the newer generation algorithms made the game worse.

>>14745966

>being this upset

No man who tells others to kill themselves is a good man. You're a lost cause. The only one who should be gassed is you

>>14745971

>(1)