/v/ - Video Games

>>14735101

Where's the game faggot?

>>14735101

well, where is the mega/torrent link, OP?

>>14735110

>>14735111

>Wanting a free game from NISA

If it doesn't crash or freeze, its translation alone should be enough to stay way.

It's been a while since a game has leaked pre-release or have I been under a rock. Either way

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>Game leaks early due to fuckup

>Delay the game until summer

>Now pirates will have the game months before paying customers as opposed to just a week

How the fuck does this make sense as a business decision?

Paycucks btfo

>>14735126

NISA will never die. NIS Japan doesn't seem ro care.

>>14735126

California, specifically San Francisco, has some of the most moronic employment laws in the world. Theres a good reason why tons of companies are leaving that state for Colorado and Texas.

>>14735126

I'm becoming convinced NISA is protected or backed by some kind of crime syndicate that keeps NIS from doing anything about them.

>>14735141

RIP Colorado and Texas anons.

>>14735148

So long as NISA pulls a profit, why should NIS care how it gets that profit, unless it isn't enough?

>>14735156

Well considering they made a fuckup this major they might actually be damaging profits now.

>>14735156

I don't know, man. Long term business plans? Keeping a good reputation with customers? Expending your profits if possible?

>>14735177

For real, it's like they don't realize there are now going to be pirated copies of the game floating around for MONTHS before it's actually released.

Remember what Gaben the Jew said: piracy is a service problem. If people literally can't play your game legally for months, they'll gladly take the illegal route instead.

>>14735170

Beyond trying to find new games to ruin, when has NISA tried fixing its shit? And I cannot imagine NISA keeps too much of the profits left after sending it to NIS.

>>14735194

The eternal frenchmen keeps them alive.

>>14735101

NISAs eternal incompetence will never stop making me laugh and simultaneously annoy the shit out of me.

So is anyone going to post the "demo" now?

>>14735148

Why make it more complicated than it is? They are backed by their idiot fanboys who won't stop buying whatever shit they shovel out.

At this point I think NISA has one of those "the gaming industry should burn and be destroyed" anons infiltrating and sabotaging them. All those fuck ups they constantly do cannot possibly be accidental, someone there's doing it on purpose.

>>14735258

Yeah, it's probably a goon or something.

>>14735202

This. I mean why would anyone pay for a butcher-job from NISA? This is almost karmic really.

>>14735258

All sabotaging a localization company does is solidify the Caliphornian grip on gaming so I doubt that. Then again, maybe that's what they want. I sure as shit can't think of a single localizer that seems to actually like Japanese games in any way that doesn't seem forced for the sake of their job.

>>14735148

maybe NIS, but NISA? come on, anon.

>Use a fucking hex editor to hack the game

>Something they can't possibly protect against

>Call their game buggy

Well you misogynerds really outdid YOUREself this times

>the full game has already leaked

>no action can undo the leak

>piracyfags are going to pirate no matter what

>NISA chooses to address the situation by causing mass inconvenience to non-pirates

Is there a single more incompetent company in the entire industry? How does that decision solve anything at all?

>>14735287

it makes them look good to their stockholders, anon

>>14735287

From what I'm reading on Steam, the port works pretty much fine with maybe tiny flaws, so this is probably the stupidest thing they can do. They're pretty much inviting people to pirate that shit because they'll now either pirate or wait possibly months for them to fix non-existent bugs.

>>14735300

Isn't NIS their parent company and therefore the majority stockholder? How does reducing the sales make them look good?

>>14735300

In what possibel way?

>>14735273

Well, there's XSeed.

>>14735309

Their stockholders are equally retarded and out of touch.

>>14735300

That's the dumbest shit I've heard today.

>>14735310

Don't they dislike Senran Kagura now? They're full of SJWs as well.

>>14735310

xseed is a ticking timebomb anon. Sooner rather than later they'll fuck up as well.

>>14735307

>when it finally gets released there will be more (possibly game-breaking) bugs

Calling it now.

>>14735280

Not exactly, anon - they can 'protect' from this kind of fuck-up. If the demo was a proper demo and lacked the data for the rest of the game, hacking the savefile to start on ch.4 would've either crashed the game or just fuck up the save.

Instead they got the full game, slightly modified the ch.3 end part to point to a different script and called it a day.

That's incompetent as fuck.

But in the end, that's par for the course in the NISA fields.

How can a company fuck up so hard and so often like NISA does?

>>14735117

Didn't FFXV PC get cracked due to the demo? Something about how they released the demo, it quickly got hacked and that same hack worked on the full game.

>>14735315

Well I don't know, anon. I'm not one to ask a question like that and in the next breath label an entire company as SJW. They've done good work in the past, so I'm going to need some actual proof of that.

There's also a difference between disliking a game and disliking it because it has big balloony tiddies that trigger your wahmen feelings.

>>14735316

Why is that?

>>14735329

>Didn't FFXV PC get cracked due to the demo?

No for FFXV it's even worse than that, first people realized that i you just put the demo executable with the retail files it works fine (for the most part) then for some ungodly reason someone on the dev side made an unprotected dev build of the final game public.

>>14735327

And why people keep hiring them?

It's unbelievable.

>>14735323

Well, half of it.

It's good design to keep the main executable small, you don't want to bloat it with game resources. However, turns out that the (unencrypted) demo executable was easily usable as a replacement for the 'final game' executable.

Then it was cracked again because an unencrypted final game executable popped up by a dev mistake. So it was a double fuck-up.

Basically, as >>14735362 puts it.

>>14735369

Either nips don't care, or they charge chump change for translations compared to other publishers. Or they pay a lot more for a license compared to others, thus giving more money to nips.

>>14735347

Those load times are horrendous even on the pirated version. This isn't using an SSD, is it?

>>14735387

>or they charge chump change for translations compared to other publishers.

This was proven when they snatched the localization of that new Ys game they botched from XSeed. They claimed to be able to do it faster and cheaper. Well they sure showed Falcom what they're capable of. I don't think Falcom will be working with them anymore.

>>14735351

Check their blogs anon a lot of the employees clearly display sjw tendencies and they've been vocal about their dislike of 'icky things'. There's also the recent interview with Tom where he basically said "there are things I don't like, but I don't want to censor anything, so I wish the Japs never even thought of putting it in the games in the first place". Basically he wished the Japs would pre-censor stuff so he wouldn't have to get his hands dirty. He also said he doesn't like the direction that Senran is taking and communicated his feelings to the devs directly. So similar to the thing that Nintento pulled where the localizers are working with the devs to censor the source material right off the bat. He also directly mention "problematic content" in that interview and went on huge damage control after the obvious backlash on their forums. Here's the archive of that interview https://archive.is/AnAc1. If anyone has the screenshots that condense a lot of the interview and Tom's subsequent damage control I would greatly appreciate it.

Tom and Xseed clearly don't like being associated with Senran anymore, but he's stuck between his principles and growing influence from the rest of the sjws in Xseed. It's only a matter of time before he cracks and starts censoring shit as well. This doesn't mean that when it happens all of their previous work was shit, but you need to be aware of the internal changes rapidly taking place within Xseed.

Sage because I'm derailing a thread about NISA.

>>14735417

Another big reason was because NISA offered a French translation for Ys for the first time and simultaneous worldwide releases across all platforms and that was extremely attractive for Falcom. Bascially Falcom got greedy and both them and NISA are too blame for the fucking travesty that is Ys8. The fucking French will continue to support NISA to the death.

>>14735435

Good luck with that if you don't know nihongonese. Actually, I think some fags in the GG threads are doing just that. Maybe check that out.

>>14735442

That's worrisome. Imagine being Tom, one of the few there to give a shit about staying true to the original work in an increasingly censor-happy industry. Must be suffering.

>The fucking French will continue to support NISA to the death.

Is there even one thing the French do right?

>>14735442

This. French weeaboos love to throw their money at them. To be fair, NISA goes out of the way to give FR translations as much as possible (not full EFIGS, only EF) so it' s no wonder they support them considerably.

However, no idea if those FR translations are actually good. Any FRanons here have an idea?

But I thought piracy didn't effect sales, guys? :^)

>>14735493

>anon can't into literacy

this is sales effecting piracy, friendo.

>>14735493

I wasn't going to pay for it anyway :^)

>>14735502

>calls someone out for being illiterate

>both using effect instead of affect

>>14735462

Tom, if you're reading this. Keep your fucking spine.

You know damn well that if you give them an inch on your principles they'll take the whole mile.

>>14735473

https://www.erome.com/a/REASbFEQ

here is the magnet link

>>14735493

In cases like this where the game is out weeks before the official release, yes, it will effect sales.

>>14735493

It's more accurate to say that piracy won't affect your sales if you don't go out of your way to give your customers a shit product at every opportunity. I would never give the pieces of shit at NISA any money, but I will pay for good games from non-shit studios.

>>14735473

Apparently the French translation was awful as well. The French on the back cover of Ys8 was complete nonsense. https://archive.is/qhdoT

I don't know if you'll get any anons here who would admit to being French though. :^)

>>14735472

That's what hurts me about Tom. I just hope he keeps his spine and sticks to his principles. Especially after all the shit he's gone through for defending anti-censorship, like when fucking NeoFAG banned him for defending Vita games.

https://archive.is/ixsdR

https://archive.is/DV5M3

>>14735442

THE FRENCH ARE NOT PEOPLE!

You see, they just didn't want to do anything to the underlying code. This was perfectly acceptable.

>>14735101

How do you fuck up this hard?

You'd think that making a demo version would be easy, just got to trim the game down, instead of just editing a few hexes in the full version.

>>14735536

>The French on the back cover of Ys8 was complete nonsense

Basically is filler text

>>14735536

>>14735559

Oh yeah, I remember that. It's basically french Lorem Ipsum. NISA quality at its best.

Is this whole thing about the demo being moddable to be the full game even true? There is only the steam post and no torrents to be found anywhere. Did the people who had the demo were blocked from keep playing and using it?

>>14735577

Well, there was a 'fakeout' first because the demo (even the PS4 one) goes up to chapter 3, and some dumb fuck immediately jumped to conclusions when reaching chapter 2.

The filesize however gave people idea that perhaps there was more than meets the eye (it's almost the same filesize of the switch version, about 6 GBs IIRC).

>>14735442

>>14735462

Tom got old. He's ~40 now, probably had his midlife crisis already, and he's increasingly interested in the status quo instead of fighting the good fight. Everything about his statement in that screencap says he only coincidentally aligned with my interest in uncensored games. As long as he keeps fighting censorship, I don't care about his politics, but it's only a matter of time before he loses the will and just wants to coast to his retirement party. If there isn't someone there to take up the cause, Xseed will get every ounce as bad as Aksys or Treehouse. NISA will never lose the crown of shit, though, since they routinely break games in addition to memeing up the translations.

>>14735473

>Any FRanons here have an idea?

I already avoid NISA games in particular but I avoid FR localisations entirely.

FR localisations seem to be even worse than US ones since many companies are lazy and just translate off the US one so you get a translation as in sometime literal google translate-tier shit of a localization.

>>14735577

If it's true then it's gonna be in he cs.rin.ru thread

https://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=80866

Why don't you fags start your own translation company? You're going to bitch about this problem, but do nothing to improve it you're just as bad as NISA for not putting them out of business with superior work.

Buyfags btfo

or maybe this is a desperate marketing tactic by them

>>14735101

I wouldn't play a NISA game, not even for free.

>>14735647

>anons on the internet

>starting a company

What is this fresh retardation? You act like we have names or know each other

>>14735740

Gotta make it harder to get that refund, of course.

Keep up the show, NISA.

>>14735740

That's just petty spite. They want to make the refund process as difficult as possible.

>>14735740

>inb4 people who never paid for it can get refunds for it

>>14735740

im retarded, what am I looking at?

>>14735743

There are plenty of retards who actually use arguments like this, so it wouldn't surprise me if he was being serious.

>>14735740

>>14735770

They have no idea what they are doing

>>14735740

Um isn't it illegal not to give back the refund during the timely purchased? As isn't it like 7 days or something on Steam as I just want to be correct on this.

>>14735740

>>14735770

They do this so they can track how many times it's clicked. Probably to assess the damage the delay is causing. They won't ever publish specifics of that information, they'll just drop it in vague terms as a defense the next time they rush a buggy mess to release.

>>14735769

Me either, really.

>Why don't you fags just start a business in an established, competitive industry?

>Why don't you fags just dedicate at least four years of your life to studying something with little direct benefit to you?

>Why don't you fags just dedicate the rest of your life to working in an industry that's only tangentially related to the thing you care about?

>Why don't you fags just change the entire trajectory of your lives to fix a single problem in a much larger array of problems?

>Why are you fags complaining that the electrician burned your house down and still wants to be paid? You can't complain that there are no good electricians if you didn't go to trade school, start a company for it, and run them out of business by doing so much of a better job that you created a local monopoly. You practically burned your house down yourself.

>What do you mean you pay taxes for cops so you don't have to fight crime? There are murders happening right now. Why are you enabling murder? Why are you a murderer?

I'm betting he doesn't know Japanese, or how much work it takes to even be able to read it, let alone faithfully translate something.

>>14735864

You already have access to the number of refunds as part of the metrics you get for games you put on steam.

>>14735885

They might not be aware of that. These are some seriously incompetent people we're talking about.

>>14735864

shouldn't they be able to tell how many people refunded it by looking at the refund data from steam?

>>14735888

If some shithead indie dev making games in java knows about it I doubt they don't, then again I don't recall anyone but NISA making console melting releases.

>>14735884

>I'm betting he doesn't know Japanese, or how much work it takes to even be able to read it, let alone faithfully translate something.

Kana is easy enough, and, depending on the game, you can rip the kana out of the text to help with translation, the problem is actually getting hired.

If you do a fan translation you aren't doing anything. The shit company will keep getting paid, you'll get nothing and your translation will only make more people pay for the shitty port because "it's fixed now :^)".

If you want to actually fix anything you need to fucking implode the shitty translation company and either make sure the higher ups will hire you or at least some decent company.

>>14735924

The point stands that nobody's going to spend years of their lives and make a double career change to translation and business administration just to fix video game translations. It's not a plumber's fault if the local electricians are incompetent or corrupt.

>Kana

This isn't the 90s anymore.

>If you want to actually fix anything you need to fucking implode the shitty translation company

How do propose doing that without creating a monopoly, or otherwise somehow forcing the lemmings to not buy products from those companies?

>If you do a fan translation you aren't doing anything.

I don't do translations. I make my own games, and I'm learning Japanese so I won't have to deal with translation companies in the future, which is at least a small step in the right direction.

>>14736004

I wasn't disagreeing with you, I was just saying you were right, but in the wrong way.

Learning nip isn't that difficult, but replacing the shitty SJW translation company is.

I have no idea how to implode their companies other than literally.

>>14735647

Because when you know Japanese, you just want to laugh at the localization industry rather than fix it. It's like free comedy.

>>14735101

I actually liked the gameplay of D5, but it could have been better. What are some decent examples of games like it not made by completely shitty devs?

>>14735101

>Shortly thereafter NISA announces they are are delaying Disgaea 5 PC to summer 2018 because of "bugs and issues

how much you want to bet that the 2018 release is going to be a worse port?

>>14736632

I want to rub my dick on Etna's tummy.

>>14736632

I don't speak dogcooker, can someone just navigate that shitware maze and get the DL link?

>>14736686

Do you want your computer to get super AIDS?

Wait for a reputable download.

>>14736697

Alright DLing now I'll scan it later.

>>14735313

It's dumb, but true. Remember, stockholders are totally uninvested (emotionally) fucks who only see a company as a magical source of money. They only have the silver tongue of marketers to go off of. And stockholders usually give just as much if not more money than customers to a company. We're chopped liver, anon.

>>14736690

I like Etna but this animation is meh. She's taller than this and still has some breast tissue I mean come on. The guy who makes these make the girls look weird and all the same to me.

>>14736763

Yeah, he has some serious same-face issues. But almost nobody else makes animations that long or varied.

>>14736763

It's still hot, even if they have the same face.

>>14736771

>>14736774

>>14736779

I like Etna but I don't like these animations. You can't please everyone.

NISA games may crash your PC.

Nonetheless, it is always good to see marxist companies get fucked.

Piracy always wins in the end.

>>14735258

Which is a good thing.

More people must engage into infiltrating leftist companies and ruining them from inside. Deceive all the women and numales in those companies. Pretend to be one of them all the way, until you can rise to a high enough position that allows you to destroy the company completely from inside, by any means.

>>14735273

It does not. It moves companies away from Commiefornia, as it is already happening. Commiefornia must be made bankrupt.

>>14735280

You are impotent and can't do anything about it.

Stay mad, abomination.

And misogyny is a good thing.

Women are objects to be deceived, used and discarded.

>>14735351

Their past means nothing if even one single of their employee is a SJW in the present. Let go of attachments from their former good deeds.

One single leftist in the company makes the whole company an enemy of it's customers.

>>14735362

Leftism and lack of manhood enables that.

>>14735435

This.

Compile personal information (with pictures) of every single one of them. Always attack them whenever they go, to push for their deaths by starvation or suicide.

>>14735442

If they look or act like SJWs, they ARE SJWs. There are no exceptions to this rule.

No matter what they did in the past, they must be completely boycotted now.

>>14735471

Do better: gain their trust to the point that they expose themselves to you. Register and catalog every illegal activity and every personal degeneracy (especially those that can make them go to jail) and when you have enough material, expose it all to all places, so they can be jailed and/or killed.

>>14735472

Tom is the criminal. Not the victim. Japanese lewd, xenophobia and racism are to be celebrated. Never censored.

>>14735493

The point is to never give money to western (that is, marxist) corporations.

>>14735546

The sooner someone spread a fatal virus to eradicate the french along their niggers and mudslimes, the better.

>>14735647

It is better to push for means to kill them, learn japanese, pirate the original, and never spend money on this shitty industry that allows all those fuck ups.

>>14735759

Everyone must do that. Anything goes to ruin a company like NISA.

>>14736798

I recognize that last pic.

http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ130197.html

>What's with these nu-/pol/ false flags recently?

I think it's the same fag each time. He's been posting that shit for months.

>>14736807

>>14736811

>I think it's the same fag each time

There's this one fag that goes on autistic tirades "I like edgy stuff like racism, so I'm right" and sometimes IP hops, but I've also seen a couple other lesser retards as well.

I don't think he's smart enough to write like a normal human being, so I'm pretty sure there's at least one other lesser retard around.

>>14735769

>being the change you want to see is now a retarded argument

No ones saying drop your life and go save vidya but shit, with attitudes like that its no wonder there's no change and things just get worse

>>14735141

Yeah, and they take that mindset from Commiefornia with them as try to make the state they go to feel more like home.

>>14735473

To be fair, NISA probably wouldn't make as many PAL sales if various NA companies would open native branches out there. Instead you get NISA having published games for XSEED, Atlus, etc, with NISA effectively making easy (easier?) money because those companies don't want to sell natively. And credit where it's due, Atlus seems to have cut them off, but not before the western release of Odin Sphere Leifthrasir.

Also, whilst not an NISA handled game, I've heard the French translation on Wild Arms 5 was pretty bad compared to XSEED and 8-4's handling of the English script.

>>14736818

it comes across as bot-tier tbh; its just kinda funny to me

>>14736860

Nah, it sounds like retard speak to me. The way it interprets sentences while missing undertones and the perfect tard sentences make me believe it's just an autistic kid.

>>14736851

It only gets worse for EOPs. The people who learned Japanese don't need to "fix" localization to enjoy their games.

>Recommended configuration:

>Requires 64-bit processor and operating system

>Operating System: Windows 7/8.1/10 64bit

>Processor: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz

>Memory: 8 GB RAM

>Graphics: GeForce GTX 750 Ti

>DirectX Version: 11

>Storage: 20 GB free space required

Nigger holy shit what the fuck are these reqs.

>>14736896

It's a self-defeating cause. If I learn Japanese myself, why the fuck would I bother doing anything other than just playing the original JP games and ignoring the western market entirely?

>>14736904

These are the people who initially tried to port D5 by copypasting the PS4 files into an executable and were shocked when the beta testers told them they were retarded.

>>14736910

>If I learn Japanese myself, why the fuck would I bother doing anything other than just playing the original JP games and ignoring the western market entirely?

Exactly.

>>14736904

NISA can't into porting. Just look at Ys8.

>>14736904

It's NISA.

Apparently there are some rumors of memory leaks as well, with the gaming taking up to 10GB on startup before going down to "only" 5GB of RAM.

>>14736690

Is it me or on the official art are they making her look mature slightly by the increased height.

>>14736904

Nigga it's NISA. They openly admitted to porting games with out doing any core programing

So… Uhh… Virustotal is reliable right?

https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/7f0b02bfbdde6285c64a6e182ac2bd3e2bd0c966f950b67aac27755be28d34c4/detection

https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/3741bf360a89498d94d967d784e6f82ce7efbcd91cc426581888414b3de2db3d/detection

I'm scanning some of the movies now just to be 100%. I don't trust chinks.

Aha you chink bastard motherfuckers

https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/a7fd9ee927fc54373c5e6581a00d35861f0c7750babdc4c89247fd633a77e177/detection

>>14736954

I was planning to reinstall windows anyways. I ain't running shit before I scan all the executables.

>>14736948

The sequel is a lot better anyway

http://www.dlsite.com/maniax/work/=/product_id/RJ146143.html

>>14736972

Didn't mean to censor that, it's all SFW.

>>14736974

>nipples

>SFW

>>14736972

It's an actual game, not a VN, so you kinda have to know what to do.

>>14736983

>>14736952

This is why nobody likes chinkshit.

>>14736983

>>14736991

Well I'm proceeding with caution but if it's all good I can string the non-English files and repack it for you guys maybe.

>>14737033

Yeah I'll see if it works first. Looks like half the HDD space is FR and JP files.

>>14735126

Who is that…? They look familiar

>>14737053

>there are no obvious viruses

>>14736952

>Can't extract a file properly

>it's an english file

Fuck

>>14737061

Apparently that's only on the chink files that aren't necessary to run the game.

Cs.rin torrent soon apparently.

>>14737129

I'll tell you after I unfuck it (deleted too many files) but if it's anything like D2 then Xbox controller will work.

Is D5 good?

>>14737168

>is [game] good?

Fool

>game hangs if you accidentally change voices, the first option in the menu

Bravo

>always etna

>never flonne

>>14735396

As somebody who played FF15 on PC pirated, the two things that improve loading the most is fast ram and SSD, your CPU without Denuvo sucking up all resources does next to nothing

>>14737243

This is NISA we're talking about. Their initial version of the Disgaea 1 PC port (a game that runs 240p on the PS2 but could easily be reworked for the PS1) ran slow as shit.

According to >>14737053 5GB of RAM is used at start… And the game is a bit over 6. Are they loading almost all of the goddamn assets in RAM directly on boot?

Does the PC version even have anything the Switch version doesn't? Been meaning to boost the latter's library.

>>14737280

Don't buy NISA games you retard.

>>14737287

He might be a Frog. It's in their nature to help their enemies and let Mohammed fuck their wife.

>>14735307

>or wait possibly months for them to fix non-existent bugs.

They delayed the PC port of Ys 8 for months to fix 'issues' and address the localization, and they didn't do jack shit. You bet your ass they won't change a thing, and if they do it'll probably be worse than the demo.

>>14737280

>wanting to buy a NISA game period

>>14736851

The argument is more in the vein of "you can't criticize anything if you couldn't do it better yourself!!" It's absolute pants on head retarded and does more to support contentment with mediocrity rather than motivate people to do anything productive.

>>14737383

no also thief is best girl

>>14735101

>release demo

>pirates get full game for free

>pull demo and delay paid version

>only way to currently play the game is piracy

How do you fuck that up?

>>14737262

Well, after the initial load, the game "should" be fast as fuck though, in terms of load times.

>>14735116

Precisely one game by NISA is known to crash, stick to bad translations.

>>14735473

The reason why the french love Disgaea isn't because of any translation quality but because the biggest gaming news site shilled the FUCK out of Disgaea 1 back in the day. And I mean it pretty much called it the greatest and funniest game ever made.

>>14737886

> Precisely one game by NISA is known to crash, stick to bad translations.

Which one is it you're thinking of? Because I had Disgaea 5 Vita crash on me consistently due to them fucking up a voice line on one particular monster.

>>14737259

which version are you using? I think there's a difference between the cracked version and the dev build version.

NISA is basically the textbook example of why communism will never work.

>>14735310

>>14735351

>XSeeD

>good work

>changing characters dialogues and scripts in Senran Kagura thus creating many inconsistencies: Mirai being actually childish and naive rather than a ruthless killer, Haruka teasing Mirai with lies on how to be mature rather than the wonky mistress slave thing in the localization, Ryoubi's personality being actually cold/distant in the JP version rather than cursing constantly (which she never does originally) in the localization, etc

>cant provide jap language support (either be voices, or nip language for the PC ports so the nip audience could enjoy the updated PC versions too). Somehow make excuses about it.

>cant bring necessary updates in localizations of EDF games (namely EDF2 on Vita from my experience) so you could play with the nips instead of facing a dead online in the West

>>14738172

*provide jap language support for Legend of Heroes games

I also forgot to mention Akiba's Trip 2, which had stuff changed in order for western brainlets to understand their own ebin references instead of having the full Akihabara experience like a foreigner taking a trip there.

>>14736904

Meaningless like all system requirements you fucking retard.

>>14737886

>The reason why the french love Disgaea isn't because of any translation quality but because the biggest gaming news site shilled the FUCK out of Disgaea 1 back in the day. And I mean it pretty much called it the greatest and funniest game ever made.

So NISA has basically gained continual profit on the series due to the media mass shilling a game Atlus handled in NA, and which Koei picked up for PAL (because NISA wasn't a thing until afterward)?

>>14738345

The most hilarious was the game that overheated your console when using a fire spell (I don't remember what game was, maybe Disgaea D2).

>>14738345

>>14738349

<Disgaea D2 can literally melt your PS3

Literally a myth with no proof ever presented but gets parroted all the time anyways.

Not trying to defend NISA since iirc it crashed the game anyways, but no need to make stuff up.

>>14738360

>Not trying to defend NISA

The fuck you aren't, shill. Get on out of here before you get removed.

>>14738375

Post proof

oh wait

you can't

>>14738345

><Witch and the Hundred Knight is crash prone

The game is literally unbeatable because of bugs and glitches and there are rumors it can brick your ps3.

Sasuga NISA.

>>14735493

>effect

Retard.

>>14738007

You mean 4.

Also, the fix is hilarious: Switch to JP voices they're better anyway

>>14738360

Not a myth. Get a DD2 disc and play it on a non-internet-connected PS3. Use a fire spell. We'll wait.

Somehow NISA managed to fuck this one up, not causing a memory leak but a cpu lock, making temp rise until the system reaches critical shutdown. And we all know how crappy the stock paste is - Hope you got your system cleaned and re-pasted at this point.

The thing is that the cpu lock thing was fixed with a hasty patch, but the other crashes (Blazing Knuckle, basic spell skip among others) were not.

>>14738640

I know what the bug is, but going "hurr just test it yourself" hardly means it exist.

Just give me a source, anyone who has melted their game from having this happen, anything. It's hard to believe it's more than a myth

>>14738640

>The thing is that the cpu lock thing was fixed with a hasty patch, but the other crashes (Blazing Knuckle, basic spell skip among others) were not.

Well, the other bugs can't get the company sued.

>>14738345

You forgot Rhapsody DS where it would crash at random encounters or completely lock up the system if you try to access the new content in the remake that got stripped because NISA didn't want to translate the new content.

Plus The first Neptunia game would crash on the dungeon leaderboard screen making it impossible to register scores on PSN

>>14738660

Yeah, as there is no proof this ever happened.

>>14738666

Why would you give them the benefit of the doubt after they've proved they are one of the most incompetent companies out there?

>>14738673

Because it sounds made up, and you can only discredit yourself by spreading fake info.

>>14738673

I totally believe that it happened, but it'd be great to have some sources, just for posterity. Anons were suggesting trying to get these fuckers bankrupt, and having proof of such failures would certainly give us a leg up.

>>14738654

>>14738666

Direct stories of someone saying the ps3 is toast after DD2? True, there are none so far online.

The reasons why it's known as the CPU melting bug and that 'it can kill the system' are simple:

>It does overheat the system. Whenever the game locks due to the fire animation (not the voice crash or the assembly crash), the game doesn't just crash like Witch & 100th, but it stays on a lock state. Of course, players reset the console forcefully shortly after this happens so damage isn't apparent, there is no reason to keep waiting because the game will not restore function. However, if left alone, it will continue to tax the CPU.

>PS3 paste is notoriouly shit.

>Fat PS3s are even worse when it comes to cooling.

In other words, continuing to overheat the system with DD2 will send the system to an early grave. Granted, you could kill a PS3 with dirty fans or old paste by running other games such as Last of Us, or even a CoD game. What makes it so ridiculous is that the very system that can run those 'heavy graphics' games is being brought to its knees by a game comprised of simple isometric 3d worlds and sprites, localized by the masters of incompetence: NISA.

All in all, Witch and 100th Knight is even more ridiculous. A pesky bug that sends you back to XMB, and they never fixed it for the ps3 version, because the ps4 one works just fine - so buy that one, goy

>>14738694

Ah, so there is no proof as it never happened and it's all speculative, thanks. Stop parroting this.

>>14738679

Nobody's console got melted IIRC, but the bug is real and could melt the console because they somehow managed to fuck up the game code s badly it would shut down the fans.

>>14738345

Mana Khemia 2 has a consistent crash with a specific quest boss, Mana Khemia 1 crashes all the time in random battles in the bonus dungeon, and Ar tonelico 3 can crash in some battles too, to add more to the list.

>>14738703

Those were just the ones I could remember off the top of my head, certainly not a comprehensive list.

>>14738704

>false info is ok when I do it

aight

>>14738712

As long as it's a possible issue it's not false. Use your brain, NISAshill.

>>14738666

Okay Satan, http://archive.fo/eMH47 . Granted, the guy only mentions he's heard of it, however nobody denies it. It could be just rumours, but 5+ years ago (DD2 release) nobody really hated NISA that much yet, so why?

>>14738686

>>14738703

To be fair, a simple crash like Witch & 100th or the one in unpatched Atelier Shallie can maaaaaybe corrupt a file in the HDD (so that the system will do a disk check later on).

It's not the crashing that makes the fire spells dangerous, it's the locking. Normally, other NISA bugs interrupt the game logic and don't overtax the system. In fact, that's where we can make a difference in nomenclature:

>AT2 raki bug, Mana Khemia extra dungeon, MK2 Ulrika first boss, Witch & 100th - these are all crashes. The game locks up but the system stays 'idle'. In case if Witch, it boots you back to XMB, the PS2 games just crash - there is no OS to go back to.

>DD2 fire is a 'lock'. The game looks frozen but the CPU is still working itself out in a loop. This is what can risk your system's condition.

>>14738697

Not speculative, it's simple logic. Just like how overclocking your CPU in a PC without proper cooling measures will send it to an early grave as well.

The fact that the PS3 taxes itself with the fire crash is evident if you pay attention to the fan. Want more solid evidence? Hook up a PS3 with CFW with the 'Control Console' utility, it lets you monitor temperatures with a PC. Check temp during normal execution and after crash.

>>14738719

I have a CFW'd PS3. I don't have a DD2 disc but it shouldn't be hard to download. For the next NISA bashup I'll try to have the precious 'evidence' at hand.

It's time to shut up the shills.

>>14738665

The original HDN crashed all the time, but you are right, connecting to the online leaderboards could crash the game almost consistently. Ar Tonelico 3 crashed like crazy, too.

reminder to not give obvious shitposters and baitposters (You)s and just report and filter.

>>14738791

this is an okay post.

>>14738743

>Why? How? It's fucking NISA

…I can't help but wonder. What the fuck did they do so that different BG songs crash the game under certain condtions!?

Even if they didn't program (Xseed's console work almost always entails sending scripts to the JP devs) they could at least get some goddamn QA going on. Ever since Ar Tonelico and Mana Khemia their QA is basically nonexistent.

>>14738818

Their QA isn't there at all.

They basically let problems like this fly under their radar, and their PR statements afterwards are literally

"We don't know how this could've happened"

I'd have to find one of the statements/articles/interviews in questions but it seems like there's a lot of sweeping under the rug, a lot of things being ignored, and just a lot of shit being compromised. Basically a lack of accountability and general ethics, presumably to meet deadlines and shit. Ironically it doesn't really help them when their PR is so negative, but considering they end up publishing and localizing so many games…

>>14738818

Whoops, meant to point to >>14738791.

About >>14738743 this reminds me how Sonic Mania on PS4, v1.0 instantly crashed the time attack leaderboards. Most likely a bad implementation of the connection, since having internet off essentially prevents the issue.

>>14738844

>He's so new he doesn't even know that NISA doesn't program jackshit.

They just (((localize))) and send it all back to NIS.

>>14738844

In some cases I don't even think they actually touch code but just replace scripts. Look at MK2, where the text looks very spaced because they didn't even take care of reprogramming the font engine. If you're playing on a small screen it's quite hard to read at times.

The PS2 game crashes (AT2, MK, MK2) are all product of the wrong parts of script/data being modified, so it could be something as you mentioned.

Speaking of NISA, how come the Ar no Surge stuff isn't mentioned in that long list? http://artonelico.wikia.com/wiki/Glitches

>There is a high chance that using Delta's Delay Burst skill will cause the game to severely suffer from lag, even to the point of causing the PS3 to crash and shut down. There is no way to know for sure when this bug will trigger, but it seems to be particularly highly likely to happen when fighting against enemies that have Jamming abilities. This bug hasn't been fixed at the date of writing this article, and it is also present in the PlayStation Vita version Ar nosurge Plus: Ode to an Unborn Star.

Crash and shut down? Lag…? Sounds like another lock case like DD2. Time to research.

>>14738836

Anyone got that screencap showing someone debunking NISA backtracking/excuses?

Had some phoenix wright stuff added to it.

>>14738726

>Not speculative, it's simple logic. Just like how overclocking your CPU in a PC without proper cooling measures will send it to an early grave as well.

It's even not that the coolling is inadequate, it's just that it's not running like it should.

You can easily test this yourself if you have a CFW PS3, just set the fans to automatically go full throttle starting from 65°C (that's around where the CELL + RSX should operate anything above 75°C over long periods is hazardous) chances are it'll even start spnning up on the XMB, now compare that to a regular console doing the same thing, it almost never spins up.

>>14738884

>The guy asking the questions is also a bit of a megahomo.

Yeah, he ended up defending NISA here a few times.

>>14738892

Right. Even way back (when those images were being made) he came off as a bit of an overzealous idiot just jumping on the bandwagon and going off half-cocked. That image is particularly shit because, despite everything, Houk the gook and the forum shills are actually 100% right. Nothing about their statements they made contradicts anything.

>>14738868

>>14738884

There was a better image, I think it also had an Objection but it was on landscape orientation and had the guy saying 'I just want to finish the game' referring to Witch & 100th. That one sums up NISA better.

>>14738890

Yep, CFW and Control Console come in handy for fan and temp adjustments. Sony learned the lesson with the PS4, it seems. Not only it uses a ridiculously big fan, but it's programmed to go into 'airplane taking off' mode when it reaches certain point.

>>14738863

Though the AT2 crash in specific is because whoever programmed the localization outright deleted the attack type used by the culprit skill, and also deleted the data block corresponding to that skill.

>>14738172

>so the nip audience could enjoy the updated PC versions too

good, the nips need to suffer sometimes.

so is the pirated version pretty much fully playable at this time and place are the crack groups putting together a repack of some kinda outside gook group.?

>>14739722

It's a beta version, so it'll probably be more likely to melt your PC than usual.

>>14739748

Nah it melts your pc instantly just like disgaea d2 melts your ps3.

>>14738863

Ar Nosurge is post-Gust dropping NISA in favor of TK as western publisher. That said, I think they still use Acttil as localization, which is old NISA staff (who left after MK1, or something).

>>14738844

Wouldn't surprise me here if NISA generally doesn't go to the step of sending scripts to the devs to insert/bugtest anyhow.

>>14738791

>the translation seemed fine.

Might be thinking of another Disgaea, but don't they have a habit of turning one word responses into much longer ones? Naturally, if playing with the English dub, it's not liable to be noticeable, but the games coming with dual audio, such a thing strikes me as egregious, even for someone that doesn't know moon.

>>14739810

What's a MK1? It's not Mortal Kombat 1 for sure.

>>14739810

Ar Nosurge also had a baffling bug at launch where all the NPC dialog was scrambled. I wouldn't be surprised if ex-NISA was involved.

>>14740113

Same, isn't Treehouse really shitty because it's full of ex-Nisas?

>>14739810

> Might be thinking of another Disgaea, but don't they have a habit of turning one word responses into much longer ones? Naturally, if playing with the English dub, it's not liable to be noticeable, but the games coming with dual audio, such a thing strikes me as egregious, even for someone that doesn't know moon.

Oh probably. It's annoying in Xenoblade 2- but they had to match lip-flaps (and some answers in Jap translate to shorter in english) but for text and no lip-synching there's no excuse.

Am I the only one that liked the voice acting in 4? Irony being the english voice lines cause the game to crash on the vita complete edition.

>>14739766

>owns a post 8th gen console

>calls others casuals

I don't get it.

>>14739766

>being this much of a brainwashed consumer whale

Never go full Shabbos.

>>14740210

>>14740189

>having the console that has the games you wanna play

heh, what a fucking loser

>>14740113

>Scrambled

Not sure if it was scrambled, but yes, there was an issue with NPC dialogue in the PS3 version. To their credit though, I recall TK getting on their asses about that, resulting in said dialogue being corrected and patched. More than can be said of NISA when told they fucked up.

>>14740101

Mana Khemia.

Speaking of NISA and NIS. This Disgaea:Refine game (aka remaster) is lazy as hell.

>HD sprites but it's mostly just porting all the HD sprites from other games.

>Character portraits weren't redone to match the more updated artstyle.

>No quality of life mechanics from newer games that take away most of the grind so you can focus on constantly progressing.

There is also no mention of rebalancing the game or adding new content that isn't a character or two. Why would anyone play this version over the PSP version? Like every Disgaea game that gets sent to handhelds gets features from the game after to improve that game. This on the other hand seems to get none. NIS forcing the Disgaea devs to leave completely fucked the quality of their games.

>>14740358

Japs still don't know someone can own more than one system. But of all franchises, you'd have though NIS would expect fans to double/triple dip.

I guess it's for those who have a switch but can't emulate PSP games. If it wasn't full price you could almost forgive them, but then- NISA.

>>14740358

>can only throw in straight lines

>probably no evilities or any reason not to just go majins

>likely no reason to use anyone story related other than Thursday later

>and that fucking Flonne in her team attack cutout

She looks older than Jennifer, what the fuck. That Flonne's more like what I'd imagine Lamington's wife to be, if he wasn't a gay faggot. And they still use the "new" designs rather than remake the ones from the first one. Seems like the mushroom thing replaces treants and there's no bandana thief. If it doesn't add worthwhile systems from newer games, it has no point existing, so far it looks hastily made out of various Disgaea parts as an easy way to get money from nostalgiafags.

>>14740358

Looks like Disgaea Refine isn't fine at all.

>>14740358

With the style change, it seems like they're trying to fuse both in the cutscene/dialogue scenes.

But yeah, it looks awful in the cut-ins.

I get keeping it classic, but it had a semi-gothic style/shading. The HD sprites for classes that existed beyond 1 look different than classes that only exist in 1 (the pumpkin thing).

Laharl's Hymn sounds good in the trailer though.

>>14739620

That is just hilarious. But wait, didn't the attack work correctly without crashing in emulators? How did it work if the skill data was gone?

>>14739810

Oh… you're right, Actill is basically NISA rejects (so it'd be misleading to put AnS in the list, after all). Shallie PS3 crashed right when entering the Growth menu because they left the whole menu untranslated. Thankfully, they did patch it. It's a few KBs, even - so no pain in downloading it.

>>14740137

Haven't heard that about Treehouse before (which isn't to say they aren't still shit). Got a source?

>>14738791

>Kinda tempted to get Dis 5 if they ever fix the item world crash bug, and for second hand on Switch at most

My jp copy doesn't seem to have these issues from what I've seen.

>>14738791

The Switch has CFW, just pirate it

>>14738862

Did they ever fix the problem if literally every battle just being a one-shot fest and defense not mattering in the slightest by the time your characters have levels in the double digits?

>>14742511

Defense stops mattering once you get around level 200. Until then defense still matters as I've had high defense characters live through an onslaught of enemy attacks. Besides, the numbers get too high to the point where mental math goes out the window and you can't really guess how much damage you'll actually be doing. That combined with the large amount of multipliers from evilities, weapon weaknesses, elemental weaknesses, and debuffs/buffs dramatically change how much damage you'll be doing. Still, good armor will save you from being one shot but armor becomes less about defense and more about benefiting your offense when it comes to post game.

>>14741725

>do what GUST did and have it where you can use all the tracks from the previous games (in this case, all games after).

The free dlc that added 800+ songs was an amazing move. Have there been other such instances where other devs/publishers pulled such a great move?

>>14735347

>>14735329

100GB

>>14742554

>>14742511

I remember thinking that too on Disgaea 2.

But then a friend that made characters there and grinded them by himself made a fucking skeleton dragon or whatever and that nigger was unkillable.

The Zetta fight was impossible at my level without that motherfucker tanking like a champ.

So I guess DEF does matter but only if the attacker level isn't much higher.

It's better than pokémon anyways where lvl100 fucking kill anything they Super Effective in one hit and a simple attack buffs can make you a monster resulting in shit like "Sweepers".

>>14741189

Because the emulator can ignore that sort of bugs and continue running. On the other hand, the PS2 shoots out an illegal operation error and crashes.

Any news on whether the demo thing's legit? Was the chink torrent legit or just an infected version of the 3 chapters?

>>14748956

It's on the private torrent site I use, so it's probably not a virus.

>>14750538

Control your autism, /v/ is for vidya

>>14750616

>control your autism

Not everybody can do that

Pretty fucking ableist

>>14750538

Do you have the one where Mark sent Mario the tails babyshit eating comic?

>>14750538

http://archive.is/3CBQ0

It was this thread but I don't have the screenshot that proves it.

>>14748956

its legit, I've tried it out and it works

>>14753811

and by works I mean you can play past the first 3 chapters without issue

>>14735125

>How the fuck does this make sense as a business decision?

People getting the game before release can show other how bad it is impacting release sales, so they now have to "spruce it up" to claim the the problems pirates found have been fixed to minimize this.

>>14738345

><Witch and the Hundred Knight is crash prone

Pretty sure it also bricked consoles.