180568 No.14724562
FUCK CAVE STORY
Seriously, fuck every bit of this game.
<getting certain items/weapons in the game will lock you out from getting other better items later WITHOUT FUCKING TELLING YOU
<basically 4 final bosses in a row with NO HEAL IN BETWEEN
<have to backtrack through shit platforming just to get a heal pot
Never before have I had to read game guides just to make sure I am progressing properly. What a bunch of shit. Now I have to start all over to get the spur and booster 2.0 because I got the wrong items too soon.
Fuck this whole shit. Fuck your mothers, too.
5c6c26 No.14724568
47e70c No.14724571
3af12e No.14724578
>complaining that it's too hard
Wow get good. The only real complaint I have is that the true route is fucking obtuse and requires a guide.
d868b0 No.14724582
>>14724562
>I suck: The Thread
4eed57 No.14724586
>The anon in quest for (you)'s
224b9c No.14724621
>>14724562
><getting certain items/weapons in the game will lock you out from getting other better items later WITHOUT FUCKING TELLING YOU
This one is a fair complaint.
ca24d7 No.14724633
5d3c49 No.14724639
>>14724562
Become proficient.
956eb8 No.14724655
I beat it blind in 10h on hard
Get fucking good, son
2672a9 No.14724802
ba6cdb No.14724842
>>14724562
Become proficient
180568 No.14724964
<and fuck unskipable dialog
0224db No.14724977
>>14724623
nice, saved
now check my dubs, OP
180568 No.14724983
Well, this fucking sucks. I started over, but this time on hard mode where there isn't a single health capsule. Got to the Bushlands and cannot defeat the stupid toaster boss. Just going to quit playing this gay game because I am not starting over again.
b94f2c No.14724986
>Not knowing that you're supposed to do multiple playthroughs
>Needing heal pots
Gaming's not for you. Take up quilting.
6ab649 No.14724999
Nah, it's fun. You're just a faggot, OP.
537ba8 No.14725008
>>14724562
>FUCK CAVE STORY
I'd rather fuck Curly Brace, if you know what I mean.
49a947 No.14725055
>>14724623
>that pic
>read it in Mako's voice
>remember Mako is now dead
>littlesoldierboy.gif
5d7948 No.14725074
>>14725008
source on image?
9ba0be No.14725100
>>14724562
Nice bait
To me though Cave Story holds the title for most hated indie title because I can't believe there's people actually defending a free game being sold with shitty remixes and "what the dev really meant the characters to look like" horrible resprites and polygonal models just in the hope that he'd make a sequel.
733fa8 No.14725114
>>14725074
Don't ask, don't tell
61ab5b No.14725123
This thread is beyond shit.
Let's post cute robots instead
f71a4f No.14725138
>>14725114
I want the source as well, faggot.
733fa8 No.14725146
>>14725138
You actually don't, go to sleep
e86064 No.14725149
>>14725138
>liking ball busting
956fdb No.14725160
>>14725149
That sounds extremely painful,no thanks
2aaa80 No.14725164
>>14724562
lol kys ∥ git gud
>>14724578
Pretty much this.
e86064 No.14725166
>>14725160
>constantly begs for source on a ball busting image
>doesn't like ball busting
ad1c3b No.14725179
>>14725100
For a board that shits on almost all indie games I don't understand why Cave Story is treated like such a darling. Maybe it's only because it's a Japanese indie.
956fdb No.14725182
>>14725166
Why don't you check the IDS you dingus
99b2a6 No.14725190
>>14724977
Not OP, but I'll surely check em anyway
ff1c2b No.14725230
>>14724562
>getting certain items/weapons in the game will lock you out from getting other better items later WITHOUT FUCKING TELLING YOU
Is the machine gun that much worse from the upgraded polar star?
Just let it go, pretty sure it's more of an Easter egg anyways.
>Never before have I had to read game guides just to make sure I am progressing properly.
>Now I have to start all over to get the spur and booster 2.0 because I got the wrong items too soon.
But why, it's not like you're stuck or anything.
If you're this far just get the easy ending, and do the other one your next play through.
>have to backtrack through shit platforming just to get a heal pot
>shit platforming
>basically 4 final bosses in a row with NO HEAL IN BETWEEN
These ones are just you being a casual.
78ae5d No.14725241
>>14725230
>Is the machine gun that much worse from the upgraded polar star?
In regards to power, yes. But, you can use the machine gun to float.
>>basically 4 final bosses in a row with NO HEAL IN BETWEEN
>These ones are just you being a casual.
Imagine how much he will be bitching when he finally encounters the "true" final boss.
47e70c No.14725249
>>14725179
>I don't understand why Cave Story is treated like such a darling
Because it's a good game, you dunce. If that isn't enough for you, it was made as a passion project before the industry was poisoned and before pixelshit "retro" platformers were the norm.
ff1c2b No.14725250
>>14725058
>Taking a screenshot of windows photo viewer
6323fc No.14725253
File: 353999d5291ec06⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 4.24 MB, 3858x3154, 1929:1577, 157ed35c25904bc5f8607977d3….png)
>she will never give you that good, lovely suck
Why are we still walking this land of pain?
6ecb90 No.14725269
>>14725008
But would you stick your tits between her dicks?
61ab5b No.14725277
>>14725250
>He doesn't know the jerky poster
956eb8 No.14725294
>>>/14725277/
Do you know the muffin man ? :p
c4a8f9 No.14725388
>>14724983
Who the fuck are you talking to? You're on the wrong image board dipshit.
64bb1b No.14725415
>>14725241
>Imagine how much he will be bitching when he finally encounters the "true" final boss.
He wasnt that much of a big deal when I beat him on easy mode haha.
9ba0be No.14725612
>>14725179
The original Cave Story is THE /agdg/ dream. One entire, great game fully coded, sprited and orchestrated by a single Hikkikomori. Also it's mondo atmospheric and its gameplay mechanics are varied enough that you can enjoy a run or two of it.
All the shit that has been mounted over the years on its corpse though, that can go to hell.
956eb8 No.14725620
>>14725612
>>One entire, great game fully coded, sprited and orchestrated by a single Hikkikomori
I don't comprende, amie
47e70c No.14725823
>>14725620
Type it in a search engine, you insufferable newfaggot.
2ebbcd No.14726012
>>14724562
Wait, you can get another portable healing item?
Well it doesn't really matter anymore, already got the last ending.
c291f5 No.14726053
c291f5 No.14726085
>>14725612
>great game
Nah. Hellsinker is a much better example of what you're talking about. Hell, or the Exile games.
4607a7 No.14726150
>>14724983
>I'm having a hard time progressing in the regular game
>Let's set it to hard because I'm great at videogames!
Are you the same anon that started Nier Automata in Hard and complained that it was too hard afterwards?
You're also an idiot talking shit you don't understand. You're not supposed to get the "the best items" in your first run, you dunce.
The machinegun doubles as "soft jetpack" for a reason. It's an easy form of movement that also lets you fire downwards and still works the same way as every other gun in regards to upgrading it.
This means you can not only progress the whole game using it instead of the actual jetpack, you're safer from downward enemies as well and you don't have a weapon crippling your gitgud process.
Wanna know what would happen if you had "the best items" in your first run? You'd stop using every single weapon except those two because you don't have to upgrade them at all. The funny thing is, this would make for an horrible experience, since you'd waste every upgrade bit into those weapons (you'd be too used to them to switch) and the charging time of your gun leaves you vulnerable a lot of time.
They are not "the best items" at all, Sword lvl2 can melt bosses if you spam it very close for instance. They are advanced weapons that require knowing the game before you use them. Such as during a 2nd playthrough.
Besides, they fucking ask you if you want to switch the weapon. They give you an option. Why would you not suspect that there's some secret in case you keep your gun with you? And the other "best weapon isn't locked either, you can get it without sacrificing anything. And it's not like they matter that much unless you're doing the real final level anyway.
>have to backtrack through shit platforming just to get a heal pot
You are absolute trash at the game. There's these little red heart things that fall down when you kill normal enemies that replenish health. If those aren't enough to keep you topped off, you don't need a heal pot, you need to get hit less often.
2f1f96 No.14726256
>>14726238
don't play dumb, this is pathetic.
44376f No.14726352
>>14726150
I disagree with almost your entire post.
>You're also an idiot talking shit you don't understand. You're not supposed to get the "the best items" in your first run, you dunce.
>Wanna know what would happen if you had "the best items" in your first run? You'd stop using every single weapon except those two because you don't have to upgrade them at all
Every single game ever allows you to get the best items on your first run. However, you have to eventually progress through a series of upgrades to get them. "Getting the best item on your first run" is not the same as "getting the best items early on".
>Besides, they fucking ask you if you want to switch the weapon. They give you an option. Why would you not suspect that there's some secret in case you keep your gun with you? And the other "best weapon isn't locked either, you can get it without sacrificing anything.
Why WOULD anyone suspect this? What's wrong with assuming that, like any other Meyroidvania, you can switch out upgraded items for new upgrades as you find them? Why can't you trade the pea shooter for the machine gun and then later trade the machine gun for the spur? Imagine playing Super Metroid and not knowing that, if you happen to pick up the wave beam first, you will not be able to get the spazer unless you start your game over?
>You are absolute trash at the game. There's these little red heart things that fall down when you kill normal enemies that replenish health. If those aren't enough to keep you topped off, you don't need a heal pot, you need to get hit less often.
Yes, killing enemies will drop hearts which will allow you to top off your health meter before the fight, but you can't fill your pockets with a surplus of hearts now can you? No, if you want to replenish your health mid-fight, you need the heal pot. That's like… the whole point of the heal pot.
47e70c No.14726531
>>14726352
>Every single game ever allows you to get the best items on your first run.
I've noticed an odd trend lately where the idea of "soft hidden items" seems to have been forgotten. Obviously you CAN get the jetpack 2.0 on your first run and save Curly and do all that, but who the fuck would abandon the professor falling to his death if he didn't know about it beforehand? Who would think to check for the tow rope?
2ebbcd No.14726559
>>14726531
>but who the fuck would abandon the professor falling to his death
Because in platformers you generally wanna avoids holes to unknown places
>Who would think to check for the tow rope?
There's a shimmer where it is, only thing is you can miss it by not knowing that you're gonna get PonRed very soon after you see it
956eb8 No.14726567
>>14726352
>Imagine playing Super Metroid and not knowing that, if you happen to pick up the wave beam first, you will not be able to get the spazer unless you start your game over?
Oh, you mean like how the original Metroid only let you use one beam at a time, and if you didn't get the Ice Beam, you need to get it again so you can kill Metroids in Tourian?
4adc86 No.14726588
Geez, OP. If you wanted a CS thread, all you had to do was ask.
44376f No.14726596
>>14726567
>Oh, you mean like how the original Metroid only let you use one beam at a time, and if you didn't get the Ice Beam, you need to get it again so you can kill Metroids in Tourian?
But at least you can actually go back and get it, you stupid fucking moron. Do you have FAS? Did you come out of your mother's asshole instead of her cunt and her sphincter squeezed your throat too tight and cut off air supply to your brain and you got retarded?
4adc86 No.14726630
>>14726596 (You)
>he can't understand that the game hides these items for a second playthrough to be done
>he cant wrap his head around the term "secret" meaning taking a different approach than just breezing through the game the first time
I think pic related is more your speed.
2ebbcd No.14726644
>>14726630
>I think pic related is more your speed.
>pic related is a game you'r not supposed to be able to complete before NG+
4adc86 No.14726661
>>14726636
>GDC
>shit opinions
Of course
>>14726644
Never played Choke on It. Wouldn't know.
44376f No.14726688
>>14726630
>he can't understand that the game hides these items for a second playthrough to be done
I doubt it. How is anyone supposed to know that the yes/no choices aren't just for the false feeling of interaction? There's one part in the game where Sue asks, "Did you save me?" and you have to respond with yes/no, but neither response actually affects the outcome of the game at all. What clues the player in that choosing yes/no will lock them into a path of progression from which they can not backtrack midgame?
>he cant wrap his head around the term "secret" meaning taking a different approach than just breezing through the game the first time
Don't know what you mean by "breezing through the game". The first choice you're offered is the machine gun. Skipping it for the first time actually makes the game more difficult since 1) you lose the ability to propel yourself into the air and 2) would be stuck with the pea shooter until you find one of the other weapons.
4adc86 No.14726689
>>14726674
I'm saving that. Thanks anon.
44376f No.14726706
>>14726688
I'll also add that I didn't even know there were other weapons until I looked up YouTube videos of the final boss fight and saw someone using some epic beam weapon which I later discovered was not only the spur, but unavailable to me because I had no idea that getting the machine gun would lock me out of the progression line.
If the boss fight were easy, I'd have just put the game away and never played it. Even if I did play it again, I still wouldn't have turned down the machine gun since there are no clues to suggest an alternate progression line if I did.
2ebbcd No.14726713
>>14726661
>Never played Choke on It. Wouldn't know.
Don't worry you're not missing much, literally the only interesting parts is figuring out the cyphers and they're not that hard to crack, the shitty platforming inbetween is enough to not make even that worth your trouble though not to mention the "ultra meta shit I'm so smart I even broke my own ruleset" heartpiece puzzles that are simply retarded in every way you can look at them
5c25c8 No.14726730
>>14726689
Oi oi oi fucker.
I'm not letting you get away with that shit.
Toby fox is no where near the level of cancer that the indie scene is no matter how fucking much they tried to leech credibility off of him.
44376f No.14726741
>>14726674
Can anyone provide additional examples of games that meet the criteria they're referring to?
Also, isn't that Phil Phish? Isn't he an goony SJW? If so, his response wasn't very SJW-like.
425b1e No.14726770
>>14726706
I don't know why you're still bitching. The Spur may have the most raw power, but that doesn't make it the best weapon. The Snake can shoot through walls, which gives it a lot of options other guns simply don't have, and is the best weapon of the three for hell if you're going for a fast time. The Machine Gun on the other hand enhances your platforming options greatly and IMO is the most fun of the three to use.
5c25c8 No.14726782
>>14726706
>there are no clues to suggest an alternate progression line if I did.
>game literally gives you the option to turn curly down and keep your gun presumably into the next area
Are you stupid or something?
4adc86 No.14726784
>>14726688
>How is anyone supposed to know that the yes/no choices aren't just for the false feeling of interaction?
Most of the interactions are either speaking or weapon swaps in the game. It is made clear that whenever a character wants your gun, they ask first, and the Yes/No prompt comes up. Once you get any Booster pack, you can get back to the starting zone and find the Hermit again, where he explicitly says he hasn't finished the weapon yet. Backtracking is required a first time so you know what options you've missed out and what are the new possible outcomes from a new playthrough. The game encourages exploration, since the maps are small and the teleporters near end-game makes it so you're aware of what can be done.
>Don't know what you mean by "breezing through the game".
I said the first time. I did take the machine gun the first time, and yes, the MG has a strong perk to it. Therefore, to get the best weapon in the game, you need to keep it and sacrifice the usage of different weapons to finally deserve a massive upgrade. It's added challenge for the sake of a good reward lategame.
>>14726706
And this is fine. The MG isn't really a bad weapon, and for any ending playthrough, it's still on par with Spur due to its own floating perk. The Spur is there for a higher challenge, if you wish to take it.
>>14726730
>strawman.png
FwugRadiation is definitely more chill than Phil.
5c25c8 No.14726790
>>14726784
beg pardon, it's a sore spot from old D&C shit from when undertale was getting popular.
6ba4f7 No.14726791
Pathetic casual. Go play some cawadoody fag.
da8ede No.14726809
>>14726730
>no where near the level of cancer
He is, though, just not as blatant. When he dodges questions that'd give him away as an ideologue in interviews or comparing his metacritic score to AAA games released around the same time he pretends it's a joke or being goofy as part of the new persona. He's deleted a lot of his past internet history to pretend he's apolitical but whenever he has to bring up his old rom hack(s) he says he regrets being the half of the hack where he was "immature and edgy," not the half that contained the story about a character being retconned into being a closet homosexual or the beginnings of his meta gameplay fetish where he used a (((quirk))) of the game engine to make a third choice in a yes/no scenario. People can change over time but lying about who you were and what you are just turns you into a sack of shit.
5c25c8 No.14726836
>>14726809
Disengeniously attributing motive for actions and distancing oneself from previous actions as some sort of 4th dimensional poker to say you actually are in support of things you publically are bothered by being attributed to yourself also makes you a sack of shit.
26bde3 No.14727160
So I just got a copy of Cave Story+ on the Switch and is it just me or is the remixes done by the guy who did the Soundtrack for the Isaac remake kinda shit?
60a179 No.14727283
My only problem is how almost impossible it is to notice rope and save Curly on yout first blind playthrough. That shit is super obscure.
And without her you can't even get the True Ending.
ff1c2b No.14727317
>>14726836
>Disengeniously attributing motive for actions and distancing oneself from previous actions as some sort of 4th dimensional poker to say you actually are in support of things you publically are bothered by being attributed to yourself also makes you a sack of shit.
I maybe don't wouldn't not agree with you there
if I could make sense of this word salad.
5c25c8 No.14727332
>>14727317
In simple terms
"Take the kafkatrap back to the gay rodeo Faggoty Ann"
d5642b No.14727345
Git gud
Become proficient
Acquire skill
Perform better
>>14726730
I raped your mom today, but don't worry, I won't rape her again. I hate rape now. I'm good guy now.
120d2f No.14727379
>>14724621
It sounds like he hasn't played many games, or he refuses to play Cave Story multiple times
da8ede No.14727385
>>14727332
A Kafkatrap implies the absence of evidence, not absence as evidence, fuckwad.
http://radiation.fobby.net/halloween/
https://archive.is/67gZR
fd19b0 No.14727418
>>14727379
You shouldn't HAVE to play a game multiple times to get everything out of it, unless it's a dating sim/VN which isn't a game. You should want to play it again if it was good enough, not have content kept from you.
4adc86 No.14727452
>>14727418
>kill the aspect of replayability of a game by nullifying any sign of variety with every playthrough
>implying the game isn't good and short enough to replay it in the first place
Just git gud, anon.
e86064 No.14727457
>>14727418
Cave Story doesn't keep content locked behind replays. There will be things you are simply not aware of, but no amount of replays will you get the message "be sure to keep X when you make it back to the village to get the last upgrade! A" or "save Curly using the rope for the super secret ending".
cca5e8 No.14727526
Thanks for the laugh and the lewd pics.
d0b46d No.14727535
>>14724562
what's it like to be a massive casual?
63009a No.14727617
>>14724562
>getting certain items/weapons in the game will lock you out from getting other better items later WITHOUT FUCKING TELLING YOU
The game encourages you to replay it for different items and endings. You can figure out a lot stuff from seeing the shit you missed. Why is this an issue? If you're referring to machine gun vs polar star, you're challenging yourself by limiting your movement early on, so it's not even good to ignore the machine gun on a 1st playthrough.
>basically 4 final bosses in a row with NO HEAL IN BETWEEN
You have 3 in a row with minor healing chances during the fight. You're expected to know how to play the game and use the skills you acquired to beat them. You then have 1 last save/heal point before the true final ending, but it's called hell mode because of it's sheer difficulty.
>have to backtrack through shit platforming just to get a heal pot
git gud
>Never before have I had to read game guides just to make sure I am progressing properly
I hate how obscure the best ending is to unlock, but I didn't need a guide for my first playthrough to get just the good ending. Yeah, I got lost a few times, but I never got truly stuck trying to progress. A guide is only really needed for the best ending because of how little sense it makes.
You sound like you just suck at games. git gud
9ba8a8 No.14727703
>>14726784
>Backtracking is required a first time so you know what options you've missed out
So are you suggesting that, if you get the wrong item early on, you can backtrack to get the item you actually want?
9ba8a8 No.14727715
OP here evading a useless ban that started out as a parking ticket and apparently turned into the murder and rape of a loli.
Anyway, I just confirmed the stupidity of this game that I have been railing about since the initial post. I got to the labyrinth and talked to one of the bug guys. He was all like, "That's a nice fireball and pea shooter you got there. Can I see it?"
That's it. No reason WHY he wants to see it and no clue as to what he plans on doing with it, yet 90% of the utter faggots in this thread somehow think I am supposed to KNOW that he's not only going to fashy the snake gun for me, but lock out the potential for me to get the spur later on.
DOESN'T EVEN TELL ME THIS
I at least need to understand the implications of the decision. It's also necessary to let the layer know this information so they can account for it in the next playthrough.
Too many fags in this bread. Way too many.
8b7346 No.14727746
>>14727160
I can tell you that I personally don't enjoy the original soundtrack that much. Call me a faggot but the way Pixel arranged his music simply isn't flattering to chiptune instrumentation. I like the first Cave Story+ remix, but I do know there are at least two, possibly even three remixed soundtracks in total, and all of them except the one I'm thinking of are total dogshit. The one I'm thinking of is quite minimalist and simply transposes the original arrangements to non-chiptune instruments that don't sound grating.
8b7346 No.14727750
>>14727715
Why not stop being a sperg and play the game without worrying about your choices, then replay the game with different choices? It's not like it's a long game.
914f05 No.14727774
>>14727715
>Too many fags in this bread.
Not our fault you are signalling them to come due to your cancerous faggotry.
Also good job saying you're ban evading.
Go back to cuckchan.
d26283 No.14727787
>>14727774
>Also good job saying you're ban evading.
It's not like it matters. I have infinite proxies at my disposal. The worst that happens is that one of the fagmods bans my IP again and deletes all posts by IP which just pisses off the users when they see a bunch of green-texted post IDs and wonder what the hell people were replying to>>14727774
d26283 No.14727799
>>14727787
It is so entertaining to me that I get banned on sight just by saying "jerky" . They ban me for like 1 to 3 days at a time, but the ban on my personal identity is forever.
914f05 No.14727845
>>14727799
I mean, if for you that's entertaining, that says a lot about how shallow you are.