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7251c6 No.14694158

A man can dream… it's not likely to happen, but if one wins big bags of dinero playing the lottery, or saves the life of a rich man, what would an efficient way to set up a studio for game development?

I think the following would work, but if it's a bad plan tell me why. Keep in mind I've never been part of something like this:

1- Hire a general manager with experience so he can be in charge of the different departments.

2- Work with said manager finding and hiring a designer (who already has an idea for a game he has been dreaming about developing), some artists and a HR person who can also be in charge of social media.

3- Go to India with the team of General Manager, Artists & Designer (the social media person can do his or her job from the West, you don't need that person in India), and hire for cheap as many programers as you need. I understand in India cheap programers aren't bad programers.

4- Develop the game the Designer wanted, make it as good as you can, sell it however you can and let the quality be the fundation of your studio's reputation. After that, keep on keeping on and now and then make the team develop a vanity project you just wanna do. Like, I'd like to write the story, do the basic art and help designing levels on a Metroidvania game set in a nightmare world of magic with the gimmik being that I'd develop it as a Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis game, and then I'd dump the ROMs online because I can. I'd even use social media to encourage people to make their own repro cartridges, too.

Is this a good enough plan?

Considering one has won big cash and the priority isn't to make the money back, but rather being part of the industry for frivolous reasons.

7a5fb0 No.14694165

>>14694158

>hiring pajeets to avoid paying a fair salary

Let /v/ know what your company name is so we can tell you to fuck off.


7251c6 No.14694182

>>14694165

I'd pay the Indians a decent salary, it's just that Western emploees have too many rights, you can't demand 18 hours of work per day, and have drama.

Also, I understand what Indians would consider a decent salary is far less than what a West-friend would consider a decent salary. If they're happy over there in India with less money than Western programers, then everybody wins.


3e1fff No.14694188

File: 28b1ead91f6b1ad⋯.jpg (265.87 KB, 600x480, 5:4, no kangs allowed.jpg)

>>14694158

>sudden windfall

>not depositing the money at your local credit union

>not saving for your retirement

>throwing large sums of money away "for frivolous reasons"


773326 No.14694189

Go to Ukraine for cheap programmers that are reasonably intelligent.


7251c6 No.14694194

>>14694189

If I go to Ukraine with lots of money I'm not going with games on my mind…

>that are reasonably intelligent

I've met few Indians, but every Indian I've met has been a genius. I was able to teach Spanish to a couple of them in mere months.


1d9d76 No.14694201

>>14694158

Let us know when your poo-in-the-loo game becomes a reality.


1e5286 No.14696754

File: ebf938725a76ffc⋯.jpg (231.72 KB, 1640x1480, 41:37, smug lisping loli.jpg)

>getting cash from the lottery

>not getting tendies from mummy for goodboy points

be honest with yourself anon whose really the lucky one here?


63061c No.14696802

>>14694188

>using a kike bank

fuck off, shlomo


74a6a9 No.14696841

>>14694158

>Considering one has won big cash and the priority isn't to make the money back, but rather being part of the industry for frivolous reasons.

That time period hasn't occurred in gaming yet. The industry does need its own Electric Boogaloo.


7a5fb0 No.14696852

>>14696802

>local credit union

>"KIKE BANK"

Anon, you are fucking retarded.


ff274e No.14696856

>>14694158

>win shitton of money

>still cut coners with 3rd world country slave workers

jew spotted

dont forget 30 min power cuts during lunch to save on energy


7251c6 No.14696891

>>14696856

What? The less you pay the programers the more you can pay the whites, plus that'd help growing the company faster.


e33f48 No.14697924

File: 716a4ce094fb27d⋯.webm (2.06 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Laughing Skelly.webm)

>>14694158

>Associating with curry niggers

This is why even in your fantasies you're destined to fail.


e40048 No.14697943

>>14694158

it will be safer and smarter to invest that money and create passive income to support yourself. I won't go to the route of create a business where you don't have any experience and lost of that extra money you have.

With investing and passive income you can have a chill live playing videah and watching anime for the rest of your life AND get money by doing it.

Think about it


177320 No.14697950

Be a lone gamedev and invest in yourself.

You don't need a company that will at one point cost you dearly when you have to have mandatory token """"personnel"""" or pay fines and the like.

The one person you can always count on is yourself.


d66486 No.14698039

>>14697950

This a thousand times over.

It takes time, a ton of effort, pain, sacrifice, but like all things the best way to handle things is by doing it yourself.


3402f1 No.14698945

>>14697950

You also don't need support from games journalists or the industry itself. Make a game you would purchase and talk about. If you cannot, then don't bother.


84b70a No.14698973

>>14694158

indian programmers on average are not good programmers, anon

don't fall for the indian meme that so many companies fell for


10e32e No.14698975

>>14696852

>(((union)))

Not fooling anyone, Moishe


7f84b8 No.14698992

>hypothetic vidya company thread

I'd do it like this

>several teams, each working on different games

>teams that develop profitable games get more creative freedom

>teams that develop unprofitable games have to make flavor of the month skinnerboxes until they make enough money to justify another chance


7f84b8 No.14698994

>>14698975

>thinks a credit union has anything to do with a worker's union

consider suicide


10e32e No.14699086

>>14698994

>no goyim, this ((union))) actually works!

Get a new script


505b0a No.14699346

>hiring another designer and trusting him to make a good game, instead of designing the game yourself

>hiring pajeets because they're cheap

Why the fuck did you bother making this thread if you were going to be this incredibly ignorant of the subject matter? This is hardly even worth discussing at this point.


f6ba00 No.14699365

>hiring pajeets

those subhumans are literally incapable of independent thought, if you're going to pay someone and think for them you might as well get married


e07b68 No.14699537

>>14694194

You met the minority of Indians who were capable enough to make it to the US (or wherever you live), they don't represent the average. You'd be better off hiring a small number of experienced programmers that have been making engines for a long time.


7251c6 No.14699659

>>14699537

>You met the minority of Indians

Sure, the minority of Indians are super smart, because geniuses are a minority wherever you are, but in a country with 1.21 Billion people, even if we say only the 1% of them are smart that still represents over 10 million.


e29e36 No.14699681

>>14694158

>hay /b/ here's what i would do if i won a lot of ca$$$h

>i'd do what every single awful company that has made this industry such a shitty kikeapalooza is either doing or is trying to do

cool story man


16f70c No.14699686

If you're going to act this slimy, might as well go all the way.

>get friendly with the SJW crowd, especially the ones in San francisco

>secretly fund the creation of a few game reviewers, it's best if you have control

>have them give good reviews of your game, get bribe money from giving good reviews to other games

>make an mmo, secretly own the gold selling website to make more shekels

>also have an in game auction house where you also make a percentage of profits

>make "art" "games" to win awards you bribed for


7251c6 No.14699697

>>14699686

>If you're going to act this slimy, might as well go all the way.

I don't know what slimy thing I'm doing, but OK.

>get friendly with the SJW crowd, especially the ones in San francisco

No. Hell no!

>secretly fund the creation of a few game reviewers, it's best if you have control

I wouldn't want to be part of that scandal, and those things can never be kept a secret. Plus, I have moral limits. I really do.

>have them give good reviews of your game, get bribe money from giving good reviews to other games

Dude, seriously I'd kill myself first.

>make an mmo, secretly own the gold selling website to make more shekels

Dude, you're going from unethical to criminal here!

>also have an in game auction house where you also make a percentage of profits

Yup, definetely going to jail…

>make "art" "games" to win awards you bribed for

I couldn't betray the market like that. The market is sacred, consumers come first.


163882 No.14699742

>>14699697

Nigga, you're already planning to use cheap foreign labor while there are many qualified American workers who can't find work due to market saturation. All you're doing is being morally dubious in a legal way. Plus many people are already doing the things I listed. Did you know Blizzard secretly owns all the WOW gold selling sites?


a5c5a1 No.14699767

If I were to win a large sum of money I'd use it to make the rest of my life as comfy as possible rather than investing in a saturated market.

That said, just buy an already existing studio and replace incompetent people (i.e. women and soyboys).


89e426 No.14699798

If I had millions I would fund a studio dedicated exclusively to pixel art games in the old style and have them pretend it's still 1995.


d087ab No.14699946

Fund a large organization to hunt down and eliminate leftists in the industry.


dd4e9c No.14701546

Hire good devs and have them move to a country with a low CoL and a good standard of living so you get the same skill level, are able to pay the devs less and have them be happy. You also pay way less in office space too.

Cheap outsourcing of pajeets for skilled labor is for stupid joos who are too shortsighted to properly make shekels and get bilked by their workers for their own plots. Look at motherfucking China, they were able to outjew MNCs out of their IP and get away with legalized shanzhai by exploiting their baser instincts. Hollywoodoo lets the country keep $60M USD while it only gets $20M every time it puts out a release, and it continues to throw itself at China's feet for that paltry $20M while their talent is giving all their secrets away to the chink filmmakers to copy through consulting.

Also why are imageboardfags bad at making money in general.

>not knowing the lottery is a tax on the poors


c34447 No.14701680

Hypothetically, would people object if I made a company with "infinity" in the name? I honestly don't know what I'd even call it otherwise.


982b6a No.14701689

>>14699681

>hi /v/ tell me how to make a video game

>0 sales

>omg why did my super realistic autism simulator with trap main hero did not sell wtf


caaa44 No.14701748

>>14694158

>3- Go to India with the team of General Manager, Artists & Designer (the social media person can do his or her job from the West, you don't need that person in India), and hire for cheap as many programers as you need. I understand in India cheap programers aren't bad programers.

Go to Ukraine. They have 3rd world wages but they have white people mentality and coding scene in the Ukraine is very solid. You get all advantages of pajeets (cheap) without disadvantages.


e29e36 No.14701803

>>14701748

you also have the disadvantage of there being a fucking civil war there but hey


97330e No.14702315

>>14701748

>hire ukraine team and russian team

>tell them the one that makes the better game will get hired for a sequel

>both will work practically for free out of unbridled rage 80 hours a week to beat their mortal enemies.


f50aa2 No.14702426

File: 543bb2021e7b9c9⋯.jpg (287.41 KB, 600x451, 600:451, TEMPLE_HIGHPRIEST.jpg)

>>14694158

>>14698992

Build your own Temple


d377bd No.14702525

File: 75e55f31ed30ce3⋯.jpg (61.39 KB, 750x750, 1:1, 1517565617391.jpg)

>>14701689

Yandev detected.

Also, if you weren't a fucking crayon muncher then you wouldn't take all your advice from /v/, presuming you have a modicum of inspiration to make your own and not passively accepting some autistic /v/ anon's ideas and cooking up a half-baked crowdsourced video game.


4603ba No.14703889

>>14701680

Why? You love that word a lot?

It's probably already a registered name somewhere in relation with software, may be a problem with international sales but there are ways around everything.


d58407 No.14704052

File: f9916809d8dc9b8⋯.png (706.94 KB, 671x692, 671:692, its in my ass.png)

>>14694158

>build the studio in the Midwest where the dollar goes further and tax breaks are decent

>aggressively screen applicants to make sure they're not antifa, commies, liberals, trannies, Xgender or other crazy postmodern disaster in the making

>Hire as few women as possible and make sure HR is a man.

>marketing is not involved in the game development

>small team not to exceed 40 people.

>find people who were snubbed by the GDC, indicade, IGF, gamasutra and other dens of nepotism and see a future where alternatives can be set up and maintained for people who are talented or competent

>pay royalties only for the first 30 days of a games release and make sure that voice actors get the lowest or if they choose a one time bonus.

>launch a product and improve on it.

>set up alternative streams of revenue to keep studio afloat if its game flops or take on jobs for larger studios

>keep publishers at arms length

>publish indi game that are good or close to completion.

If it were that easy then vidya wouldn't be such a shit show or remakes, ports, movies, walking simulators and adding a child to established/new franchise.


4ae512 No.14704550

>>14694158

>I understand in India cheap programers aren't bad programers.

You understand wrong. Pajeets make code that "just werks!!!", meaning it is technically functional, but it's a piece of shit that runs like ass, tends to be unreadable, and doing any later modifications to it is a nightmare.

> Develop the game the Designer wanted

>the Designer wated

>tfw OP is so cucked he spends money for developing a game that some fag wants rather than one he himself wants.

You're such a faggot, OP, holy shit.

>the priority isn't to make the money back, but rather being part of the industry for frivolous reasons

>"this is why I will hire pajeets to do my coding!"

I kinda want you to die now, OP. Not out of hate or anything, I just think it would be a mercy for a creature as sad and retarded as you are.


b144ae No.14704560

File: df95e5a79f72354⋯.png (1.81 MB, 1200x1200, 1:1, 00904e9c125f68449d6ced4b18….png)

>>14694158

>hire a building anywhere

>call the studio whatever you want

>hire only a close circle of good lads that can be trusted

>the whole business is a front

>spend 100% of your start up money on high explosives

>use your "status" as a games studio to get into E3

>you know the rest

this would unironically save the games industry


bce453 No.14704623

File: abe471c888ff9cf⋯.jpg (62.55 KB, 500x573, 500:573, abe471c888ff9cf7b009a56d35….jpg)

>>14702525

That and you'd figure out who might actually be interested in the game and pander to them like your life depends on it. There's a reason games like Neptunia manage to do OK, and it's because they understand how to make pretty girls, without totally sucking at other aspects. They understand who wants them.


eb4575 No.14704637

>>14704560

>high explosives

Why not just use a toxic gas for poetic justice and irony? Much wider area of effect at a fraction of the price and same lethality rate on average. You can then use the extra saved funds to hire professional assassins to eliminate key figures of the industry to really hammer in your message that jews are not welcome in this industry anymore and scare the normalfags out of the hobby for at least a couple decades.


d58407 No.14704641

>>14704637

You're assuming that the gas will be distributed evenly, and in high enough consternation to kill before people started running out of the building


9c4b3b No.14704680

>>14704637

>hire professional assassins

Nigger this isn't 1920, you aren't going to find "assassins" let alone people who are in that field long enough to be "professional". The closest you'll get is a mentally unstable individual and even then it takes a long time to condition them to do what your thinking.


54d187 No.14704695

File: ea8814ecc8dff71⋯.png (1.65 MB, 1855x1565, 371:313, b80842b.png)

>>14694158

>I understand in India cheap programers aren't bad programers.

I honestly hope you do win the lottery, just so that you can go to India and try hiring a bunch of streetshitters to just like make game for you. I look forward to reading the greentext saga of your descent into madness and depression.


a52829 No.14704826

File: 86a83e37c1be0a6⋯.png (256.44 KB, 500x752, 125:188, 86a83e37c1be0a6934c091fea0….png)

https://archive.is/oZpz9

What ever you do, never hire a 15th person, or Uncle Sam will dilute your workforce and productivity with diversity hires.


5d3931 No.14704857

File: 27cdc1d7d06cd4c⋯.gif (983.56 KB, 500x364, 125:91, 1441561208290.gif)

>>14694158

>I understand in India cheap programers aren't bad programers.


c7638b No.14704908

>>14704826

This only applies to complaints, which is why diversity should have no idea that your company is hiring (or even exists).


c34447 No.14705569

>>14703889

Because of 8chan/infinitychan. I will try looking up some different variations and combinations anyway.


07444c No.14705627

>>14699659

You don't understand the distribution of genius, I'm afraid. If one in a hundred in any category of people were geniuses, we wouldn't still be struggling to get rid of MRSA in hospitals. I understand that you're exaggerating to make your point and that the Indians you claim to have met weren't actual geniuses, nor did you mean to imply that they were, but even one in a hundred being highly intelligent and capable would be a huge leap forward for humanity as a whole.

The ones you met in your locale were exceptional and made it to Western society. The ones capable of doing this will never accept working long hours for less pay than someone who is American and equally capable of the work they manage. Westerners may have "too many rights," but making efforts to not treat people like serfs is part of what makes Western society great.

It's your dream. Do what you want with it, but remember that you get what you pay for.


240946 No.14705653

>>14694158

It is a terrible plan. I can't even begin to describe how bad it is even for an independent studio.


b89c56 No.14705677

>>14694158

>hire full-price pajeets

>when you can get interns and pay them the same amount or less for better work

Really setting the standards for being a fucking brainlet, aren't you.


646ecd No.14709812

>>14705677

'Muricans are as expensive as Indians?


7e58a0 No.14714881

I'm shocked, this board thinks Indians shouldn't be exploited.


59ddf0 No.14715936

>>14694158

>I understand in India cheap programers aren't bad programers.

you are a fucking nigger, of course they are bad.


33d4b1 No.14715968

>>14715936

It really doesn't take two brains to search up examples of Western freelancers having to fix pajeet spaghetti code. They're infamous in the programming world because of this practice.


feeea5 No.14715971

File: 62625223901def3⋯.jpg (55.93 KB, 768x576, 4:3, Robotnik smug.jpg)

>>14704560

>Tfw John K. is now considered a rapist

>Ren & Stimpy are the new Pepe the Frog


59ddf0 No.14715986

>>14715968

Of course their bad, I don't need to google that to figure that out. After all, their country sucks ass for a reason… That said, I also used to work in IT and out company always hired foreigners for some reason. Third world programmers are bad. Even those who went to college in their country, they still suck ass.


35b53f No.14718036

If I won jackpot with the lottery I wouldn't just find a "video game company". I would find a "multi-media" company instead. Reason is that not everything we make are going to be used in complete video games. And with how long it takes and how much money it costs to produce them here in the US we have to make sure we can re-use our scraps for failed projects either for making ads or selling the programs to other computer engineering projects.

For starting from nothing: I don't believe in the Patreon model starting out. And crowdfinding is too toxic that it's better to have a finished product before peer review (to make sure you're not violating patents).

Now. That said. Video games need to get the fuck out of Silicon Valley. Real estate there is complete bullshit. Of course the question is will the midwest accecpt high risk software studios. I'm sure when they think of game studios they think of bitcoin mining hipsters now instead of Pepe-tier fat internet shitposting losers.

I'm also considering dual-booting linux because Windows is going full 1984. I'm hoping their platform befomes 100% closed source where the only downloads allowed is from Windows store.


b1aaed No.14721373

>>14718036

Can you hire me?


7b3841 No.14721448

>>14694158

>I understand in India cheap programmers aren't bad programmers.

Fuck off and die nigger. There are plenty of white programmers here that need money that can't make it out there because street shitters decided to flood the IT field. Don't expect any of us here to pay for your shitty game when you decide to announce this. You are a part of the problem.


9862e7 No.14721463

Don't hire curry niggers

Just hire competent people.


73c8ad No.14721470

File: dddd6ea6b01b2c5⋯.jpg (186.08 KB, 635x805, 127:161, indian fake degrees.jpg)

>>14694158

> I understand in India cheap programers aren't bad programers.

well


f821b0 No.14725382

>>14694158

Spend it on literally anything but video games.


06a10d No.14725446

>Hiring street shitters as programmers

Your game will be objectively shittier, no pun intended.


0b82ba No.14725513

File: 9196097f741e68d⋯.jpg (141.35 KB, 645x773, 645:773, 1523504369750.jpg)

>I understand in India cheap programers aren't bad programers.


18c250 No.14725517

>>14694188

Unironically kill yourself. Even cuckchan /biz/ has more brains than you.


92c12a No.14725518

>hire for cheap as many programers as you need. I understand in India cheap programers aren't bad programers.

You would make a great manager in the IT business. If I was your supervisor I would promote you immediately to project manager. Now you just need to plan meetings, reports and fake deliverables so that you can showcase all that money you saved and hit those sweet bonus. Then you either leave the company and start again in a new one, or you arrange some clever musical chair with the rest of management to erase the trail of your future and certain failure.

Now, if what you just thought about was some genuine plan to make a real video game and not some elaborate corporate scheme, then you are fucking retarded.


7ec5c2 No.14725566

File: 8bd308473487327⋯.jpg (126.52 KB, 680x709, 680:709, 8bd308473487327239f2c9b9b5….jpg)

File: e1327a34ee0ea54⋯.jpg (55.18 KB, 853x640, 853:640, 8260e82dac003990560f7922ee….jpg)

>Outsourcing game development to pajeets or any random degenerate on the other side of the world for shit wage

>Expects good results

If you're gonna shill out for a whole studio, have a fucking office space in your own country where everyone comes to works. If people are going to become invested in the project they're working on and put their soul into it they need to feel like they're part of the team.

Also this way you will be able to closely monitor employee behavior in person. And if they're not fucking thirdworlders half the globe away you can do interviews in person.


3d01ea No.14725652

File: a07b8dfa2745e6c⋯.png (37.04 KB, 586x578, 293:289, 1507523742512.png)

>Keep in mind I've never been part of something like this

>I understand in India cheap programers aren't bad programers.

Are you fucking retarded son? Look at what everyone here is telling you. Curryniggers are scum, and you are worse for even considering hiring them.


d3f8c7 No.14725802

File: 7dd0d28318576bf⋯.png (316.99 KB, 450x386, 225:193, Dobson approves.png)

>>14694158

Simple.

>Hire a team of videogame devs: Designers, programmers, artists

>If they brag about their gender agenda and lefty faggot shit, I'll just simply fire them.

>No paycheck for being faggots and part of their contract.


582019 No.14725873

>>14725652

Shouldn't that be X -> 0.


d3266b No.14727493

>>14725652

>Look at what everyone here is telling you

I've looked, and OK I agree. I mean, I believe that point, now.

I even fucking said feel free to correct any point, so that's that. I accept the correction and I thank yo all.

Now, the rest of the plan: good or no good?

If we replace Indians with something else, I mean.


0491a7 No.14733755

>>14725513

He's not wrong tbh.


c3ceca No.14733794

File: b95ea464759287e⋯.png (611.09 KB, 710x784, 355:392, vsgh0n01g9jx.png)

>>14704680

>What are Mercenaries

Who cares about assassins. Just buy some experienced Mercenary and have him shoot the CEO


6aa2b3 No.14739412

>>14733794

>>14704680

You're both missing the bigger picture: it's wrong to kill.


35b53f No.14739752

>>14721373

Depends. Once I have a project ready to go gold I'll shill game and business site here. No Steam page because fuck Steam. Maybe GOG if they haven't turned into DRM cancer. If GOG has then you can buy game directly or pirate like you always do.

Contact info will be on the site in link by then. If serious about work then send resume, ONLY RESUME, via e-mail only. I'll think about it then. No portfolio samples in e-mail because copyright reasons. You can list your animation and let's play (marketing) Youtube channels. And you kinda have to link all social media accounts, skypes, disagreements, etc. because contracts will have NDAs with unreleased projects with third parties who are skeptical about the Lauren-Kate-Dales sleeping around getting leaks on everything.

Could be five years when you'll see me shill the game on here. Could be twenty. But you guys will know when it's me shilling my game because it will be a game out of nowhere mostly done on full release.


1e727f No.14739763

File: 6d1a2a9a4c73805⋯.png (244.33 KB, 495x726, 15:22, 1a79dc5283f350dc5d87946bb3….png)

MY MOM SAID I'D NEVER GET A N Y W H E R E WITH THESE GAMES!


a981b4 No.14745465

>>14739412

>it's wrong to kill.

it really isn't.


000000 No.14746579

>>14694182

>I understand in India cheap programers aren't bad programers.

Yes they are. The cheap programmers are overwhelmingly filled with retards. www.worsethanfailure.com is filled with horror stories of pajeet code. Pajeetland is also filled with horror stories of cheating on exams and a corrupt education system.

>Also, I understand what Indians would consider a decent salary is far less than what a West-friend would consider a decent salary. If they're happy over there in India with less money than Western programers, then everybody wins.

It's the internet age nigger. The good pajeets earn a western wage because they can just directly work for a western company and demand the same salary as the rest of them. A good number of them even move directly to the west (and a large number even finish their education in the west). The bad pajeets work for some code farm outsourcing outfit and get paid dogshit working for an outfit asking for terrible wages.


a981b4 No.14749868

>>14746579

Pajeets are bad everything.


43a405 No.14755186


8a72d9 No.14755226

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WRONG

>get heaps mone

>go to local starbux

>offer money to all womeons of colored hair

>get game

that's how you do it


9ca4cb No.14761075

>>14755226

>that's how you do it

That's how you make #GamerGate relevant again, you teickster.


35b53f No.14761115

>>14755226

You'd just get arrested for soliciting prostitution and rape shitlord.


f821b0 No.14765453

>>14761115

Worth it.




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