0bbbfc No.14693390
So I've been thinking: what are the most consistently good and consistently bad genres? I'd say
>Most Consistently Good
Either on-rail shooters or shumps If it weren't for the massive wave of shitty indie games I'd have said 2D platformers
>Most Consistently Bad
RPGs
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564cbb No.14693419
>>14693390
>Good
Sim racing or if that doesn't count just racing.
>Bad
Third Person Shooters.
db90a7 No.14693422
shooting games are easily the most consistently good. first person shooters are the most consistently bad.
564cbb No.14693447
>>14693422
Aren't first person shooters by definition shooters?
572423 No.14693458
>Good
What I like
>Bad
Everything else
0bbbfc No.14693462
>>14693419
I'd count sim racing as a sub-genre.
69b12b No.14693506
>>14693390
There is nothing worse than a "cinematic experience walking simulator".
db90a7 No.14693520
>>14693447
no, they're first person shooters which are by practice hitscan/iron sight clicking games. rarely if ever do you have to lead a shot or dodge a shot.
78d2b8 No.14693533
>most consistently good
Metroidvanias
>most consistently bad
First Person Shooters
78d2b8 No.14693545
>>14693506
true dat
but we're talking about games here, neither of those can be considered as such
2da680 No.14693563
worst sports, online shooters
best olde school 2D platformer
f1b61f No.14693598
>>14693390
>generally good
RTS even if it is dead
>generally bad
WRPGs
Linux will never be a good OS for gaming or for desktop use
c32357 No.14693604
>Most Consistently Good
Typing Games
>Most Consistently Bad
RPG
Shootan
RTS
d8db24 No.14693620
>>14693598
It is much better for coding and general desktop use is fine for someone who mostly uses the browses and the office suite.
4deb16 No.14693622
>>14693390
>Most Consistently Good
Action RPGs
>Most Consistently Bad
Fucking First-person 'Horror' games
Fuck em all
>>14693598
>RTS
I miss when 6 gen was around, there were so many RTS'es that most of them got completely forgotten after release. Still, i wouldn't say that its the most consistently good since they have their own stinkers as well. But a bad RTS can only be boring as fuck to play, since their threshold of badness rarely went beyond travesty.
>>14693602
Go away Dylan
>>14693604
>Typing Games
<Not Rhythm games in general
Rhythm games don't have anything wrong with their gameplay since there is barely any deviation from each game to another, they differentiate themselves by using eye-catching visuals.
c32357 No.14693651
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>>14693622
>rhythm games
>consistently good
0bbbfc No.14693655
>>14693563
>best olde school 2D platformer
That's cheating anon. If you can pick a date then every genre was consistently good in the 80s and 90s.
>>14693533
>Metroidvanias
A loophole to the indieshit ruining 2D platformers issue I guess since most of the ones that claim to be metroidvanias fail to manage it.
>>14693602
Reminder that Mark considers Columbine not to be video game related and wouldn't allow us an anniversary thread until we bitched at him for hours.
4deb16 No.14693672
>>14693651
Eh, i guess i am stretching it. Still, rhythm games don't really have anything to offer beyond its simplistic gameplay and visuals.
Typing games are godly though, i used to play Typershark and Typing of the Dead alot in my Pentium 4 back then.
>>14693655
But it is true right?
Sure, most of 2D platformers of today are indieshit, but most of them are good
f16718 No.14693685
>>14693672
That's not what most means
4deb16 No.14693704
>>14693685
Shit, i retract my statement since i just remembered that there are alot of dogshit shovelware 2D platformers back then.
Fuck, even back then there are still shitty games
e9ed05 No.14693707
consistently good genres are platformers and consistently bad genres are adventure games
fc5b22 No.14693720
>>14693707
Text adventures can be fun, point and clicks consistently suck ass.
78d2b8 No.14693722
>>14693655
thing is, most games with explorations where you get new movement avilityes to reach new areas tend to be fun, the very few games i've seen claiming to be metroidvanias but failing at it where games that only had the labyrinth map but not the new movements, thus failing at being a metroidvania and being nothing but shit plataformers with forced backtracking
and even if a game in this genere is subpar each and every one i've seen so far has had something to stand out from the crowd
mediocre is the worst i've seen a metroidvania be, but not bad
6f0f31 No.14693724
Puzzle games are probably the most consistently good; They're quite simple, so they don't really need to be "innovative" all the fucking time, and the player base always knows exactly what to expect. Therefore, it's kind of hard to complain about this type of game. On the other hand, MMO+F2P style games are almost entirely shit, although there are a few "good" (i.e. not entirely painful to play) ones, I guess.
0c0671 No.14693731
>>14693390
For good arcade games since they died before the real cancer set in. For bad probably what >>14693419 said and third person shooter.
>>14693655
>>14693622
What got deleted?
fc5b22 No.14693746
>>14693722
Metroidvanias are all mediocre, they're just low-budget clones of SotN on low-res consoles. SotN itself isn't even a very good game, it's just the only once with a ounce of money, time and effort put into it.
e86b4a No.14693777
>>14693390
I dunno, about the genres specifically, but I think multiplayer focused games should be kept separate or isolated from regular games. They require less skill and focus on immediate basic rewards which lures the less intelligent and blood lusting foreigners unhappy with their sociopolitical status in life. Games which computer hardware gives advantage and skins gives pseudo prestige have no place in story telling and inactive adventures. Moreover, when the servers shut down or the masses move on to another arena that does something different, like have snoop doggie endorse it or added Minecraft aspects, the game disc is valueless and thus a tag team based visual game rental service is more apt than video games. More like a digit playground not too unlike a jungle gym outside a preschool.
78d2b8 No.14693783
>>14693746
that retarded comment shows how little you know about the genere, SotN is more and action RPG with back tracking than a metroidvania, you only get 3 or 5 movement avilities, the rest of the game is based on gear and stats, but since there weren't that many 2D games with backtracking back when it came out the term Metroidvania was coined to descrive this particular genere of 2D plataformers
fc5b22 No.14693797
>>14693783
Metroidvanias are all shit games, they're bad clones of Metroid. The only fucking reason why SotN is any good is because it had a budget. You're just a nigger with bad taste.
d938d7 No.14693802
>>14693783
>>14693722
>genere
>plataformers
>avilities
>descrive
Am I being fucked with or is there something seriously wrong with your autocorrect?
81988c No.14693825
>good
there are no more good genres, just an endless wave of filth with the occasional playable game
>bad
sports game repackaged for the year
78d2b8 No.14693835
>>14693797
>The only fucking reason why SotN is any good is because it had a budget
keep the retardation coming faggot, SotN was a throw away title that not even Konamy had faith in, they put all their budget in the N64 3D Castlevania wich nobody remeber and for good reason
>>14693802
autocrrect is off and i can't be bothered to check my wrtting this late at night when talking about vidya
3b8fc3 No.14693859
>>14693746
circle of the moon is great, and takes most of its design cues from the classics
9a6e16 No.14694036
>>14693731
Holocaust disproving facts.
d725f4 No.14694143
Yup, scrolling shooters win.
Movie tie-in games are the most consistently bad.
3dd245 No.14694377
>>Most Consistently Good
>RTS
Even blatant copies of other ones or cheap shit are still solid fun and worth playing for all their depth and experimentation in gimmicks. They also had great and memorable campaigns and scenarios.
>ARPGs
Good for some mindless fun with some nice traditional RPG mechanics, for some reason they also seem to have more freedom with environments and settings than regular JRPGs.
>>Most Consistently Bad
>Arcade Shooters
Specially cocaine shooters trying to imitate COD or make a fast-paced CS.
>Survival Games
Very few ones, even looking deep in, are actually good or remotely fun. And if there's anything worse than a bad or boring game, it's a game that's a chore to play. Which is what most survival games of any kind feel like.
>Kart Racing
Literally only MK and CTR are worth playing. A lot of them would have been better if they just put some effort on making interesting track designs and item usage instead of cloning Mario Kart.
654c9a No.14694440
>>14693390
It seems like there are more consistently bad platformers than bad RPGs. If it was not for Mario the platforming genre would literally be nothing but trash and mediocre shit at best. In almost every console generation there has been hundreds of trashy, generic, and often bootleg, platforming games. In fact with the rise of mobile its the worst its been since the 90s
8c9089 No.14694461
>>14694440
Say what you want about that Lizrd, but he is hot
c3f3ce No.14694490
>>14693422
>>14693520
>Shoot things in first person.
>It's not a fps.
67c142 No.14694953
>Most Consistently Bad
This thread was over after the OP. It's unquestionably RPGs. The only good ones anymore are action RPGs made in japan, and a few turn based/strategy games made there as well.
Western rpg and crpg fans have extremely advanced stockholm syndrome. The best games in the genre are all years and years in the past despite dozens, hundreds of titles being released since then and despite a modern revivalist trend attracting millions of dollars through crowdfunding and publisher investment both.
Divinity OS2 is sort of interesting and it's at least not as disgustingly low effort as other modern peers, but even that has problems, like poor combat balance and stubbornly sticking with the same awful setting from the past games. Larian's refusal to ditch rivellon demonstrates an unwillingness to be on the cutting edge, to be first among their peers which makes me doubt that their games will improve much from this point onwards.
Let's not even talk about obsidian and pillars of eternity, I don't want to advertise their new shit by mistake.
Other small indie games, while sometimes having interesting gameplay ideas, universally also have horrible presentation, stock unity assets, poor animations, inefficient UI schemes, little to no optimization, and unoriginal music. CRPG fans will deny that such things have importance because they're pathetic cuckolds and masochists. They think all that matters is muh cnc.
564cbb No.14694983
>>14694953
>The only good ones anymore are action RPGs made in japan
While I don't necessarily agree with everything you said I appreciate that you didn't make the common mistake of japanese-made ARPG being JRPG.
78d2b8 No.14695121
>>14694490
i think he's talking about top down bullet hell shooters anon
564cbb No.14698209
>>14695121
Should have said that then.
9a80e9 No.14698222
>>14694983
this, though I think most ARPG fans would be insulted if you did refer to them as JRPGs
87a366 No.14698424
>>14694953
What was the real stinker with Pillars? I know it suffered from WORDSWORDSWORDS from a couple of screencaps I saw and that Avellone left because they cucked his writing, but it's supposed to have good combat. Right?
127113 No.14698447
>>14698424
Didn't they cuck to SJWs by censoring some joke about traps that was put in by a backer?
87a366 No.14698465
>>14698447
Oh yeah, now I remember that.
c53088 No.14698614
db90a7 No.14698629
>>14698209
I did, they're called shooters. first person shooters are their own cancerous genre.
>>14698614
>liking games ADHD kids
>>>/ritalin/
>>>/kindegarten/
>>>/firstgrade/
c53088 No.14698727
db90a7 No.14698747
>>14698727
>thinking this is a defense of a shit genre for children
>telling anyone else to go to reddit when you're defending overwatch
here, have your happy pills, you get too excited from attention.
c53088 No.14698864
>>14698747
>when you're defending overwatch
Nice strawman
34c484 No.14698875
>No 4X and Dungeon Crawlers as constant good
What a shit thread
>>14693458
/thread/
db90a7 No.14698899
>>14698864
It's a first person shooter, should be right up your alley. Must be more of a call of duty kind of child.
c53088 No.14701125
>>14698899
Overwatch is an ASSFAGGOTS game, not an FPS. Besides that, where did I state that I like modern FPS games? The only FPS game from the past 10 years that I have actually liked was nuDOOM and even that was still just decent.
564cbb No.14709380
>>14701125
ASSFAGGOTS isn't FPS by its definition.
e3e980 No.14709548
Third Person shooters are bad because they're plagued with western devs trying to be cinematic
consistently good is usually what OP said and Metroidvanias
f434f6 No.14709596
>Best
3D platformers. Also fucking hard to pull off.
>Worst
Does "onlineshit" count as a genre? If not, then every genre that relies heavily on multiplayer for it to be enjoyable. Those genres are shallow and mediocre, and expect you to make your own fun, or to have friends, which make even staring at fucking walls enjoyable.
faa732 No.14709612
Most consistently bad is definitely ASSFAGGOTS when it has zero good games.
3dd245 No.14709861
>>14694953
It's almost like not everyone wants "linear high fantasy DQ clone where 4 kids go save the world from 100% evil enemy #6792" or something
119020 No.14709875
Good:
>Flight Sims
>Hack 'n Slash
>Justice Sims
>Parkour Platformers
>Program Puzzlers
>Skate Sims
>Systemic FPS
>Top-down Dungeon Crawlers
>Wrestlers
Bad:
>2D Platformers
>3D Fighters
>Collectathons
>Open World
>Survival
>Team Sports
>Visual Novels
>Walking Sims
987d22 No.14710307
>>14693598
When you say WRPG, do you mean real RPGs or shitty action games you level up in like Mass Effect, Dragon Age, post Morrowind ES, etc
f4eb5a No.14710326
>Most Consistently Good
FPS
>Most Consistently Bad
RPG
d41f53 No.14710404
>Consistently Bad
FPS and Phone Games
>Consistently Good
RPG, Fighting, Action