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>>14677511

Ever since the one coming out of the Subway in DX I've gone off these tbh.

Fighting against Mark.

>>14677635

how can you kill what has no life

I hate all of them, there's no shittier mechanic than pounding on a boss for 30 minutes and then realizing you're supposed to lose except maybe giving up and finding out you're not supposed to lose

>>14677853

the best design is having a boss fight you are suppose to lose, but the devs put in a secret ending incase you do beat the boss.

>>14677950

The DS Ninja Gaiden game did that. If you were able to to defeat the Red Dragon in the beginning you unlocked and were able to play as Momiji for the rest of the game.

>>14677950

Demon Souls

I'd prefer if you could beat Vile during the rematch instead of having it go exactly the same. But no, Zero had to have his special moment. It's like X didn't grow at all between the intro stage and Sigma's fortress.

>>14677950

This is the only acceptable way to make an "unwinnable" boss fight.

>>14677511

I like the seemingly unwinnable ones that do actually have a different outcome if you manage to beat that which you weren't supposed to. Some being doable on a first playthrough, while others might as well require NG+, but it does make for a better idea than just "you have to lose".

>>14677950

Tales has been good about that at points, but then you have the boss fight against Hubert in Graces, where the devs apparently couldn't think of an alternate way to kick Asbel out of town other than getting some INSTANT BALLS to the face. Even if you whittle his health down to 0, it just goes to "???" because you aren't allowed to win. There is thankfully an optional rematch later, but still.

>>14677950

I can agree with that.

>>14677853 I wanted to reply to OP but i'll just have you instead, there is a very cleaver way to do it if it's implemented by relying on the story, as happens while fighting a Belmont on Castlevania Curse of Darkness

The fight was like climbing a mountain barehanded with nothing to assist you and i got my shit rekt even though i spent time evolving my pokemons with crystals that the mobs dropped… rarely also chuging potions as if i was dealing with an optional boss, then after i git gud by using the golem correctly, i chirped enough HP for the cutscene to happen… then i was reminded that MC was out of comission for years… also, despite MC's strenght being comparade to Death before taking said break, i'm still fighting a Belmont which explains why i can't just curbstomp him like i did with the other bosses that crossed my path

The best example of an unwinnable battle that you can actually "win" at is Rondo of Swords. You're supposed to just run, but for every one of the bosses you beat you get one of the best items in the game, and leave the first stage near level 20. Not sure why you'd do it, though, you'd shitstomp the rest of the gamee.

>Hopeless Boss Fights

>Hopeless

>Boss Fight

Exdeath VS Galuf. What, it counts if the fight is hopeless for the boss too, right?

>>14683633

That was a great moment that was kind of ruined for me personally because my class skill setup for him was sub optimal to the point I needed to use items.

The part after where his daughter uses its was strong too. Very underappreciated entry to the series and my personal favorite.

>>14677950

Kratos in Tales of Symphonia was neat.

>>14677511

Every time I see something like this or a top 10 boss fights, this fucking guy is brought up. And I hate him because I hate this game because I hate it's music. He makes me think of this game's music. I hate him. Look at that stupid fucking Star Wars armor. The fucking super fighting robot he is making his robot hold. He is a robot. Fuck these god damn robots.

Also you could argue the final level in Halo Reach. It isn't a boss fight but you kill enemies in waves until you die. I like segments like this.

Lufia 2 Gades. Sure the fight was "unwinnable" at your level. But if you grinded enough you get to defeat him and take his sword. And then promptly kicks your ass in the cutscene but hey you get an op sword out of it.

>>14677635

>boss

not of this gym

>>14677950

The Alliance Alive, but it's really only practical in new game plus.

>>14687913

hold right

>>14687888

All Disgaeas have those, more or less. They're basically NG+ only but they're always great

>>14687917

"Oh, I can kill this boss, maybe it's not one I'm supposed to lose to!"

>Spend time and effort to try and kill it

>Get it to 1hp

>It won't die

>You were meant to lose

>But the devs were retarded and didn't make it strong enough

>>14687982

Are you not supposed to beat him to continue?

>>14687992

If he knocks you down to 30 health or lower, he just fucks off without dropping the metroid.

lol

>>14677950

Case in point, the fight with Leon in Tales of Destiny.

Life

>>14677635

I sincerely wish he was dead.

No homo.

First Bowser encounter from Paper Mario 1, as its impossible to win without cheating and thus lacks the ambiguity other scripted loss fights can have. There's really no place for scripted losses past the intro of a game.

Least favorite is in PMD Explorers of Sky, during the first extra chapter, as you can win it but you get the same scene as if you lost. All winning does is force you to waste valuable resources.

You can actually win anon, but it takes the right skills and moveset.