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>>14660151

>should I buy a Dramcast?

Anon, no. The PS2 will have better specs and play DVDs. Just wait for that.

>Sooooo, should I buy it?

That depends. Do you like video games? I mean, more precisely, do you like fun video games?

>Considering I don't have an old TV, can it be modded or adapted with relative ease to HDMI?

Buy an old TV too, faggot. You wanna play retro games, you should own a CRT. The ideal Dreamcast experience is CRT and S-Video (as some games are not compatible with the VGA mode). There is an HDMI adapter, but it costs a pretty penny.

>Should one buy a second controller, or an adaptor instead?

I know there's an adapter for Playstation controllers, but I find the Dreamcast's controller pretty comfy so I prefer that.

>I guess it can run emulators of other consoles too. How's that scene? Also, how's the homebrew scene?

Well, there's only so much you can do with that old hardware. Last time I checked, it emulates Genesis and Neo Geo CD pretty well, but struggles with the SNES. (Even the PS2 can't emulate SNES at perfect full speed, although a Gamecube does) Other than that, there are some nice homebrew games. Gunlord, Sturmwind, and Rush Rush Rally are awesome.

>>14660217

>and play DVDs.

Is that really that big of a deal these days though? When they came out yea it was a big deal but a standard dvd player you can probably get for like 10 bucks now easy.

>>14660245

>DVD player for 10 bucks

Oh yeah, right. PS2 has cutting edge graphics and a DVD player. DVD player prices have only just now started to come down to less than 200 dollars. We probably won't see those kind of prices you are joking about until at least 2015, and by then we should have flying cars.

>>14660259

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=117-001G-00002&Tpk=dvd%20player

I've seen cheapos for 15-20 bucks over ten years ago anon. What do you think you're doing comin on /v/ and pretending like it isn't current year?!

>>14660151

Anon, there's still some cheap ones being sold and you are a faggot for not getting one during it's one and half year of life.

>>14660284

You can't troll me. I already fell for Bonzai Kittens. I'm not falling for this 'it's the future' shit. If it were really the future, I bet the games coming out would be so much better than anything on Dreamcast or PS2 anyway, so why would anyone in the future waste their time on something so outdated?

>>14660245

Yeah dude. Having a DVD, music CD and game player was pretty legit at the time.

Fun fuckt, the very first movie I watched on DVD was on a friend's PS2.

Look at the underside. If there is a 1 in a silver circle yes. That is a gen 1 unit which released with no copyright protection and will play burnt ISO's without the need of a chip or boot disc or any modding at all.

A gen 2 is okay but some games are rare as fuck and worth playing and piracy is sadly the only way thanks to (((collectors))) but if you have a CRT still i cannot recommend a lightgun and house of the dead 2 enough.

>>14661737

not the one in your picture. xbr960/970s are 16:9 CRTs with a lot of image processing and only output in 1080i, meaning they upscale 240p, 480i, 480p and 720p sources to 1080i, generating perceptible input lag and a blurry image. You want a standard definition model, the fv310 or other silver flat screen trinitrons (FD trinitron badge/wega) are considered the best for old games and the lack of processing. Also look for similar Panasonic Tau, JVC I'Art or Toshiba Theaterview SD TVs, curved usually means better geometry. None of these TVs will accept a Dreamcast VGA/480p signal but will take an SD signal and make it look great. You want to avoid widescreen models as they have digital processing. Check places like craigslist, curbs, facebook market, letgo app, and other local selling services and don't pay more than $25 for a set, people mostly want to get rid of them for free.

These aren't the best CRTs to get, but are definitely the most commonly available options, those are the brands you want to keep an eye out for (sony, jvc, toshiba and panasonic) Other noteworthy brands in the consumer space are mitsubishi and NEC but their TVs with options like component/svideo aren't as common. There is also the professional monitor scene but these are very expensive and hard to get into unless you have numerous resources.

YES

Ok, I'll be buying it. I know it's a good console, but I wonder if it's better than eating pussy.

OK, so I'll buy a TV much later. For now, what options for HDMI are there?

>>14662392

Anyone's top 10 Dreamcast games?

Nah, Dreamcast sucked. The only good Sega system was the Megadrive, and the Saturn if you're a turboweeb.

>>14664450

I think you're either being cheeky, or you hated every console from that generation.

no

>>14664402

I could probably do a top 20 or 30 and I'd still be pulling my hair off, "oh I should include this one too, but I can't take out any of the others, they're all so good."

>>14660151

the ps2 is better, plus it's got ==ALL== video games on it

>>14665405

dis nigga dont know his text hahahahahahh

Just mod an Xbox and boot the damn Dreamcast games off of an HDD as well anything else you wanted to play from back then. Faggots.

>>14665407

Hey man, stop the bullying. In this timeline #stopthebullying2014 succeeded.

>>14664402

>crazy taxi

>house of the dead 2

>grandia 2

>power stone

>space channel 5

>chuchu rocket

>soul calibre

>skies of arcadia

>shenmue

>MAHVEL BAYBEE

>>14665421

>Dreamcast emulation on a 733 mhz processor with 64 mb of ram

Either someone's managed some technical witchcraft, or your talking about something else.

>>14665462

You obviously don't JTAG.

>>14665395

Give it a try.

Can one even buy cheap blanc CDs still un the year 2018?

>>14664487

Sixth gen was the beginning of the end, yeah. If Dreamcast had lived a full life it would've probably been great, though.

>>14666536

>Sixth gen was the beginning of the end

Explain your statement.

>>14666552

Obvious interpretation: newer games are bad, lots of casual shit for the lowest common denominator because it is too expensive now to try risky original ideas and still do graphics that reach mainstream standards.

>>14663307

There's just S-Video to HDMI adapters. I don't think there's a legit HDMI Dreamcast cable.

>>14666585

Are they good enough?

>>14666595

nah, they won't look very good and will introduce lag. Your best bet is a VGA to HDMI adapter, keep in mind not all dreamcast games are supported, some can be swap tricked, but otherwise that's the best route.

>>14666552

It was the advent of on-disc DLC (Sega), mandatory paid netplay (XBL), omnipresent DRM (Steam) and other jewish schemes.

Also, games were mediocre/poor, for the most part.

>>14660284

>>14660245

>No fun allowed

Leave, feg. Never return.

>>14666611

>posting used goods

>>14666685

dreamcast had a paid online/isp service too. The games were great however, your taste is shit.

>>14666685

Are you Mike Kennedy?

>>14666816

SegaNet was optional, you could use your own dial-up ISP to play online games.

>The games were great however, your taste is shit.

Post 25 great games from any gen 6 system.

>>14667094

depends which region you were from. here's 25 on the original xbox:

bloodwake, crimson skies, splinter cell chaos theory, magatama, tenerezza, metal wolf chaos, steel battalion, steel battalion line of contact, black, breakdown, mech assault, mech assault 2, otogi, otogi 2, thousand land, ninja gaiden black, deathrow, amped 2, scarface the world is yours, the warriors, THPS2X, fatal frame, battle engine aquila, Jet Set Radio Future, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Gun Valkyrie.

Now is where you pick them apart and rationalize your way to point out they are good but not great. Then you fail to understand how opinion works and do the usual big brained routine.

>>14660151

Dreamcast is the best arcade machine for your home. If you like Arcade games from that era then you really should get one just for that. Also had some pretty damn great exclusives.

>>14666906

I have the TORO from these guys and use it hooked up to my xrgbmini, really makes the dreamcast looks stunning and makes 480i games look just as good as 480p games. Quality shit. Though really if you have a VGA compatible monitor or TV you don't need anything crazy like that to make it look good, just one of the VGA boxes which I think can still be found cheap.

>>14666535

Just buy Verbatim off Amazon. Good price, and their good enough to run on my picky retro systems (I use it for PS1 and Sega CD, my Dreamcast I actually have a GDemu for and really suggest that as the way to go because then you don't have to find trimmed GD-ROM files).

>>14667341

I bet you can easily fit multiple dreamcasts in Renne's thoroughly used cunt.

>should i buy a console that one can emulate

no

>>14660151

Just use an emulator.

>>14667621

>>14667728

Emuniggers please leave.

>>14667728

It's not the same, bro.

>>14667940

You first, faggot.

>>14667741

Its close enough without paying some scalper with an overinflated sense of what it is worth too much dosh. I have one. Its just a console. The only thing you are missing out on is the VMU which most third party developers completely ignored in the first place and wasn't vital for anything. Its not even like older systems where you have an argument for sound being off since most if not all games at this point completely abandoned midi-like soundtracks for prerecorded audio.

Dreamcast was great because of the innovative attitude it represented and the off the wall shit that was launched for it. You don't need the old hardware to play the games it was great for.

>>14667971

I should asterisks that with "unless you are a retro hardware geek who just really loves tinkering with shit."

Then yeah, fucking go for it. If you don't give a shit about the under-the-hood stuff, though emulator is good enough.

>>14660245

He's retro posting, anon.

>>14662324

Don't the gen 1s die like lemmings though? I thought one of the big features of the gen 2s was that they lasted more than a week.

>>14660151

Yes.

>>14668041

Rev1s died because the 1gig GD-ROMs being compressed to fit 700mb CDs usually (esp in the early days) had the data all over the fucking disc so the laser was constantly moving and jumping around and would wear out fairly quick. The Rev2s have the MIL-CD capabilities removed from the bios, therefore they usually aren't as worn out.

>>14668041

My Gen 1 is still alive from launch day. Laser was getting a little old (though it still worked fine) so I replaced it with a GDemu, now I expect it to outlive me.

>>14668114

Did you really spend the $250 on one? Why?

>>14668119

They were only $200 on launch day buddy. Also it was my birthday so I actually didn't pay a cent for it.

>>14668119

Or do you mean the GDemu? If so: why the fuck wouldn't you pay to play every game on the console from an SD card so long as you know where to find the files (and I know where to find the files).

>>14668132

I thought the GDemu could run ISOs?

>>14668955

No.

>>14668999

Oh yeah, mister Nicetrips? Well, tell me. No, tell THE WHOLE BOARD what use has Windows CE today other than Sega Dreamcast!

>>14669016

>objectively better experience

Oh yeah? Motherfucker, prove how it's an objectively better eperience and I swear on my mother's cunt if you can prove that I shut up.

Your move, fucko.

>>14669025

>inb4 you can apply filters over jaggies or some such

>>14669028

I'm not talking about how the game can be made to run on an objectively higher definition, or how you can take the games and apply cool filters that the original hardware objectively cannot handle, or how the FPS are objectively higher on an emulator if you set it right.

I'm mad because of this:

>>14669016

>an objectively better experience

>experience

Nigger, there's an EMOTIONAL component to gaming!

THAT'S a huge part of the EXPERIENCE!

When I play Mario Kart on the tablet part of the Switch, that's OBJECTIVELY in a lower resulution than when I play the same game on my TV; but when I play with my sister there's a whole new component to the experience and that has nothing to do with things you can meassure.

I like, to this day, play with my old Super Nintendo system. Fun games and all, but dude, I like to play with my Super Nintendo system. I have a different experience than if I play the same game knowing it's someone else's Super Nintendo.

Are there objective factors? Sure. You can count FPS and some numbers are, of course, objectively bigger than others. No debate there.

But that's only part of the experience, which is different from person to fucking person!

Hey, maybe some people like the original hardware for reasons that are merely emotional. So what?

Are you gonna argue with how they themselves live their own experience and you're gonna show them graphs and numbers proving they're not having as much fun as they think they are?

You can show me a dog that is an exact clone of mine, looks the same, even has the same memories and emotional reactions, but it's way smarter and more obedient. I still choose the dog I already have over the clone! Why?

Because I LOVE the fucker! I love the objectively inferior one!

>>14660151

Why? I heard Microsoft is coming out with a console soon. Just wait for that. I heard it's going to be PC-based. Do you think this means we can play Daggerfall on it, or possibly a sequel?

>>14669016

>instead of just emulating it

To be fair, dreamcast emulation still isn't very good, so there is still value in having a physical dreamcast. Emulation isn't magic you know.

>>14668990

It doesn't run ISOs, it runs files that make up a GDrom image. Might as well be ISOs or Roms for how easy they are to get though.

>>14669198

There are many.

>>14660151

If it can run backups, go for it. Also, the Dreamcast outputs 640x480 over VGA for most games, so just get yourself a VGA cable. There's a few exceptions though. Pretty easy to look up the list.

>>14660225

>>14670734

>If it can run backups, go for it

What do you mean "if"?

I thought all Dreamcast consoles could run backups because of some flaw the designers overlooked.

Do they need to be modded?

>>14671050

there's model 2 systems designated by a little 2 in a circle on the bottom of the system that had the flaw fixed. Good news is they are insanely uncommon and you likely won't ever see one. I have a bin of about 12 dreamcast systems in it and none of them are model 2. It's barely a concern and safe to assume pretty much everyone has a model 1. Model 2's exist but your chances of having one to deal with are very low.

FUCK YES BUY A DREAMCAST WTF ARE YOU DOING POSTING ABOUT IT WHEN YOU COULD BE PLAYING?!

>>14671453

That's not how you play a Dreamcast.

This is a good one, right?

>>14671453

That bitch desperately needs some **chili*dogs insider her.

>>14672233

I use an AVerMedia Game Broadcaster HD to capture VGA from the Dreamcast. Bought it to capture jamma boards and was glad to find it also worked with the DC VGA adapter.

>>14672335

Ivy's looking a little fat there

>>14669170

I'd rather emulate it than bring my old one out to play shit when I can just load up a DiscJugglar rip or a GDI from my computer instead of Demul or Chankast. I honestly don't see the point.

>>14672434

*With, I'm not reading what I'm typing at this point. It's easier to force widescreen hacks by emulator as well.

>>14672391

>a little fat

I call it THICC and I like it. You do not like her?

>>14660151

I sold mine during an especially NEET period. Garage sales are a real treat. Someone out there has my weird D2 VMU creepshots. Along with my Skies, Shenmue and Maken history. Buy one, and never surrender it, though I get a laugh out of this.

>>14674038

Well, there you go. Make sure it has a VMU. DC has no copy protection, go hog wild.

>>14664402

Sword of the Berserk

Shenmue 1/2

Power Stone 2

Zero Gunner 2

Gunbird 2

Dynamite Cop

Skies of Arcadia

Cannon Spike/Gunspike

Tokyo Highway Challenge

Propellar Arena

There's about 50 good games with 20 of them being shmups.

>>14664402

Cosmic Smash

Cyber Troopers Virtual-On Oratorio Tangram

Record of Lodoss War: Advent of Cardice

Phantasy Star Online

Jojo's Bizarre Adventure

Project Justice

Under Defeat

Propeller Arena

Silver

Border Down

>>14669145

I don't see Elder Scrolls coming to console. The game is too niche and the worlds are way too large to fit on a memory card.

>>14668955

Windows CE has nothing to do with the Dreamcast. The OS runs from-disk, not built in. Microsoft just licensed out some of their libraries to Sega to make porting PC games easier, but IIRC devs fucking hated Microsoft's dev tools and rather overwhelmingly used Sega's own in-house dev tools.

That's why so few games on the DC actually used WindowsCE, even the PC ports it was supposed to ease over.

>>14674334

And why is that?

>>14674383

Mountains don't age like milk.

>>14671453

Because when you use a custom fightstick, you blow the shitty little resistors or whatever in the controller port until only one of them works. Cannon brothers hate Dreamcast with a passion.

The wife is having fun right now checking the fun things they sell in the market.

I'll call her now to see if she has found a DC.

My old Dreamcast needs to change the system´s date every bootup. I have been reading that this is caused by a discharged battery. Can I continue using the console without changing the battery or should I worry for an acid leak to the circuitry?

Hold on tight to to your Dreamcasts.

>>14675527

It is pretty easy to remove. Just a few snips. If you decide to remove it and replace it make sure you get the correct battery as it is a rechargeable battery and if you put in something that is not rechargeable you may lose your Dreamcast and your home.

>>14675527

For me mine charges back up if I play for a long period of time, the charge doesn't stay in there for long but it will stop bitching for the date every time I boot. Try playing it for a good couple of hours and see if it still does it to you. Also as far as I'm aware the battery isn't in danger of leaking anything (fucking Microsoft).

>>14662324

>thanks to (((collectors)))

>this anon thinks he can talk shit about metaljesusrocks and get away with it

How 'bout loading Dreamcast games from an SD or an USB devise?

>>14683740

there's a few solutions for that like gdemu. they're a little expensive but if you're into the dreamcast and don't want to compromise with emulation or compressed disc images it will likely be worth it for you.

>>14683786

I'm looking into it and the solutions seem to be expensive, hard to implement, or both.

Which would normally not be a deal breaker, merely a pain, but as far as I've read I think no solution is 100% compatible.

For now I'll stick to burning discs. What's this you say about "compressed disc images"?

Regular CDs of 700mb don't do a good job?

>>14684275

many dreamcast games were over 700mb, so unless you like compressed textures, compressed audio, mono audio, you can get a better experience. What is "hard to implement" for you?

>>14684283

The IDE solution seems to be for hardcore bois with a passion for modding. One SD card solution I saw seems to be easy to implement, but not cheap.

What if I burn the games that aren't as big on regular CDs and the ones that are more than 700mb on special discs? I'm sure they sell blanc CDs with more than 700mb of space. Am I wrong?

Am I high? Am I gay? Am I the gayest?

>>14684294

there's some 800mb cds, and rare 900mb cds. not gonna make a huge difference. you're looking to spend a one time investment that will keep your dreamcast alive because the irreplaceable GD-rom drive dying won't be an issue and you'll have the full experience with all your games.

>>14684297

So you'd suggest the SD solution?

>>14684302

if you wanna play a lot of dreamcast, yes. otherwise burning discs will be fine for most people with a more casual interest.

>>14684307

You have my full attention now, friendo.

Are there more than one SD solutions? If so, which one would you go with?

Anything close to 100% compatibility?

>>14684312

gdemu is the best around, and it's 100% compatible afaik.

>>14664402

Did they even make 10? :^)

>>14684329

Where the heck do you even buy one?

>>14686087

From the creators website when he has them available

you should get toy commander, OP

>>14686087

>Where the heck do you even buy one?

https://gdemu.wordpress.com/ordering/ordering-gdemu/

My suggestion is setting up a program that can monitor the site for changes for you and have it track the "Preorders are currently closed" bit so that when that changes it will inform you. That's how I got mine.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1585333

I also got this 3d printed SD card tray so there's no worry of losing a card in the internals of the DC, highly suggest it if you get your hands on a GDemu.

>>14686979

It's funny because I actually played their eduntainment games as a little kid. I thought it was for good though because I actually prefer the blue logo.

>>14686979

But the swirly is not identical.

Dreamcast 2 when?

>>14689442

I'd rather have a Sega Mark VI.

>>14692927

Same thing, silly.

>>14684137

You'd be better off playing Blue Burst. Makes no sense to go through the trouble of getting a Dreamcast or Gamecube Broadband adapter.

Also, for some weird reason the GCN version costs stupid amounts of money.

>>14692740

theres an autist that has a dreamcast channel on youtube, he pretty much owns everything that is dreamcast. I remember seeing a video regarding this specific model (apparently there is another on in the works by a different person) and it cost around $200 dollars if I remember correctly (for the controller plus shipping). Battery life was about 4 hours with the VMU connected. So, about $800 for 4 controllers unless he gives you some sort of discount….

>>14687581

But it's orange and vaguely similar enough.

>>14693020

>Also, for some weird reason the GCN version costs stupid amounts of money.

It had a glitch that let you run pirated discs without modding the console.

A bit silly at this point. If you want to play GC games, you should just get a modchip, or simply emulate.

>>14693144

Why do you think the guy is autistic?

Also, name of his channel? I'm curious.

>>14693224

if you wanna play GC get a late model rvl-001.

Generally speaking, you have to be very careful when buying older disc based consoles like the DC or PS1. If you know they saw heavy use, it's better to just pass.

The guy hasn't replied to my messages on Whatsapp for 2 dys now ;_;

Maybe he chose not to sell it?

>>14693530

but anon, the GameCube actually has slightly better video output than a Wii.

>>14660151

Dreamcast had a very limited production run but also a limited library of titles of any value, especially hindered by almost all of it's titles being ported to superior systems. If you buy a Dramcas it will go up in value over time if you take care of it, it will become a collectors item.

>>14694127

The games that were ported to other systems are inferior ports in almost every single case so it's a moot point

>>14664402

get toy commander and armada as well

>>14660225

Nigger, you ever heard of component cables?

>>14695235

I don't think the Dreamcast can even produce the right signal for component. Best you can do is use the VGA box, then some converter from VGA to component or HDMI.

>>14695235

>>14695309

it doesn't do ypbpr natively

>>14694118

What? Really?

Holy shit, we really did reward Nintendo for a fucking mistake, didn't we…

>>14699638

Speak for yourself.

I skipped that shit because I knew Nintendo had sold out starting with the DS.

>>14701774

Don't be so literal, I didn't mean "we" as in "those among us that bought the Wii"

I meant "we" as in "we, the human species"

>>14664402

Grandia 2

Evolution 2 (don't bother with the first one unless it's just for the backstory, after enjoying 2. It wasn't as good a game, too boring and grindy, and the translation was shitty and full of bugs)

Phantasy Star Online

Jet Set Radio

Skies of Arcadia

Psychic Force 2012

Crazy Taxi 2

MDK2

Sonic Adventure

Sonic Adventure 2

I'm enjoying those Top Ten lists.

>>14703011

>I regret buying mine.

Replace Dreamcast with ps2 and ps2 with Dreamcast and I agree.

>>14703011

>I regret buying mine

Then give me it. Give it to me, I mean.

I'll take it off your hands for free. I mean, for a few dollars, just mail it to me and then wire me the money.

>>14660151

>>14686979

>>14687036

If Pol has taught me anything, it's that that's a pedo logo o.o

>>14660151

>Should I buy a Dreamcast?

There really is no point. The best games for it have been ported to many consoles. Even Shenmue I and II will be getting re-released with HD versions. The consoles had a pretty notorious failure rate as well.

pros:

>damn good library despite the consoles short lifespan

>good arcadey games

>still getting homebrew games

>still has some interesting games you can't really get anywhere else (sword of berserk and blue stinger I believe haven't been ported anywhere else)

cons:

>awful controller (sad since saturn had great controllers)

>awful memory card

>consoles prone to breaking down (I cannot imagine how awful they must be today after all these years)

>>14704039

>Even Shenmue I and II will be getting re-released with HD versions

<trusting the porting team that can't even handle 16-bit games

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm betting those ports will be shit.

>>14707859

My advice is to stop fucking watching youtube celebrities you fucking idiot.

>>14707842

Without a doubt. Take advantage of the investment fags selling off their Dreamcast copies to pick it up at a fair price though.

>>14707842

Shenmue sucks though.

>>14714884

>I have opinions

No one cares.

>>14707859

Adam is definitely a Sega autist but what makes him an absolute retard?

>>14715433

"Lag free scart to hdmi converter"

>>14714999

This isn't even the English language, stop posting.

>>14715039

>No one cares

That's an opinion.

Dreamcast 2 confirmed?

>>14668055

You got some sick dubs, Juanito igual que papá

>>14715714

No, that no one cares about some anon's opinion is actually a fact.

>>14669196

>Still posting my waifu

I'll fucking kill you

>>14707832

Its a waste to watch him , he doesnt even talk about good games =/. Hey look guys at this shitty rare hello kitty game on my wii u and other similar examples

>>14721637

Only because Peter Moore had the Dreamcast killed prematurely so he could get hired by M$. Those games would have gone to the DC instead, Microshit wouldn't have entered the gaymen industry, and we'd be better off because of it.

>>14724302

[We be needin' a cite]

>>14727482

The word you are looking for is citation.

>>14722210

>I'll unleash my sweet Penguin Gangsta technique on you, and that's a set of moves so deadly the Dojo forbids it.

>>>/reddit/

>>14721637

Also the Otogi games and Ninja Gaiden were moved from the Dreamcast to the Xbox. Any decent exclusive on the Xbox started out as a Dreamcast game.

>>14728537

Windose Me?

More like Windose Meh am I right, esse?

>>14661737

>Also, you know collectors of old consoles need a nice TV from the past, I know collectors of old consoles need a nice TV from the past, but how would you explain that to a wife who's not into games?

>Explain it to a wife

>Ever needing to explain yourself

>Ever cucking yourself out of your own house and resigning yourself to a fucking mancave

Fag, next you'll tell me you're not the primary breadwinner

>>14728537

In all seriousness, if you run Norton WinDoctor as the very first thing you do (corrects the numerous registry errors), WinME is a solid 32-bit OS

>>14671114

The Model 2 has a better flaw. It led to the creation of the generic key whereas previously pirate keys were game specific