/v/ - Video Games

Why take a regular DS when it's fully retrocompatible with the 3DS? I guess you could say the DS has the GBA retrocompatibility.

Just don't get a vita, it's discontinued, has few exclusives and an absolutely terrible memory card. There's a dedicated audience for it on /v/ but they're pretty much comparable to train model enthusiasts.

>>14655878

I still enjoy my Lite. That said, if you're looking to buy actual games, Gamestop fucked the aftermarket in trashing covers, cases, and manuals to make more room (for mobile shit, at the time), assuming you want more than just cart only copies. Also I'm not sure how readily available original line DS-specific flash carts are these days in comparison to ones for the 3DS (which I think I've heard also have DS game compatibility on the same carts, the system itself being backwards compatible and all). Whether or not it's worth getting is likely to depend on if there's enough games of interest to you. The DS had a lot of shovelware (any popular system will, to be fair), but also a lot of good games buried in its library if you know where to look.

If you're looking for general pirate friendliness, the PSP is easy to CFW and using memory sticks to begin with means no need for flash carts.

>>14655878

I'd go with the original, rather than the Lite model. The buttons and D-Pad are comfier, and most games use the shape of the original model as a reference.

As for backwards compatability, every model after the Lite was completely screwed up. Personally, I like the low-DPI screen of the original, but I know how autistic that is so I won't act like it's a real argument.

The real issues are:

1. Like most technology, the design just seems to get uglier with time. Geometric designs are abandoned in favour of flat, glossy garbage.

2. Nintendo seems to want to put the Stylus anywhere but the one sensible place, to the right of the cartridge, and at best, they're very inconvenient to grab. At worst, you'll be knocking them out all of the time, and you'll one day lose it forever.

3. The buttons get more flat, and stiff, making them very uncomfortable to use.

4. The new designs tend to suffer from fatal flaw issues. GB support was ditched after the Lite model, and though I can't claim to have owned every single sort of DS, the original 3DS model had this issue where the groove along the bottom screen would make a very clear impression on the top screen, just by having the system closed, ruining the display.

>>14655886

>Why take a regular DS when it's fully retrocompatible with the 3DS?

Basically this. The 3DS has good games, plays DS games (get a flash card) and can have games injected into the official GBA emulator. No GBA game card slot stuff but that's pretty minor.

If buying, get one at 11.3 or lower for easiest hacking. You can also get a flash card with a toggle for ntrhax which can break any 3DS if that's too tough.

>Just don't get a vita, it's discontinued, has few exclusives and an absolutely terrible memory card.

They're terrible unless you hack them. Then they're pretty damn compelling.

>SD card adapters

>PSP and PS1 compatibility

>its own version of freeShop

Hacking got even better recently since it's possible to update a 3.60 system to a hacked 3.65 one, which allows many more games to be played, and also things like rePatch allowing better game modding. In future there will be options for people on unhacked 3.61-3.67 as well.

It may be difficult finding one at 3.60, especially a first-gen without horrible OLED burn, and good luck finding a 3G one, they're the best for the PSVSD, which frees up the gamecard slot you'd otherwise have to tir up with an SD2Vita.

Avoid the fucking Lite. It's the objectively worst mainstream handheld gaming system. Buttons and d-pad are loose and wobbly, the d-pad has extreme difficulty hitting the diagonals and there is zero feedback to buttons or the d-pad. I've returned it for another twice and they all have the same shitty problems. Remember the Battle Network games and how they were tilted at a 45 degree angle? They were unplayable with the Lite. And I mean that literally; the one I got with the Lite (5, I think?) had a mini game where you had to hit things coming at you. The d-pad is so fucking abysmal that I couldn't even complete it because it refuses to register diagonals and lacks any sort if feedback to tell you when you've hit a direction. After a few tries I swapped to my old model DS and easily completed the mini game on the first attempt with ease and a perfect score.

I hate the Lite with a goddamn passion not just because it's an awful product, but because the old DS had a perfect d-pad. But Lite made it smaller, unresponsive, loose and put it in a shitty position. And retards couldn't stop buying the trash fire that was the Lite, so they put this tiny shit d-pad on everything they made after that. They did make it less shit (not as unresponsive, actually has some fucking feedback) but it still suffers from being tiny and poorly positioned on 3DS. Also instead of making it do a light clicking sound like on the original model, the 3DS one, as well as the buttons, are really, really loud. I don't understand why they want you to draw the attention of everyone in the area when playing a video game. One more reason to just play it on the couch or bed I guess.

>>14655886

>Just don't get a vita, it's discontinued, has few exclusives and an absolutely terrible memory card.

It's an actual good handheld if you have cash to spare on physicals, and a lot of extra points if you can into moonrunes. The hack obviously makes the machine more appealing to go full digital without requiring the proprietary memory cards and their more limited storage.

I'd still recommend the PSP over the Vita if you're shorter on budget, and just want to play PSP & PS1 titles (though some PS1 games may benefit with the second stick and actual L2/R2 mapping of the Vita such as Ace Escape, Echo Night, etc)

>There's a dedicated audience for it on /v/ but they're pretty much comparable to train model enthusiasts.

wow rude aniki

>>14655944

If you get a 3DS DO NOT fall for the N2DS XL meme. Infact try as hard as you can to get a model/color of 3DS that's old and discontinued, because even the regular models started being produced with low quality plastic and shitty TN panels.

>It may be difficult finding one at 3.60, especially a first-gen without horrible OLED burn,

I fucking told those OLED fags. I fucking told them the Vita Slim was the better choice. They didn't fucking listen to me.

>>14655878

>>14655947

I've got DSLite.

I don't mind how the d-pad feels, but I did have to replace the rubbers after 4 or 5 years because one of the directions stopped working.

So if you find a cheap Lite, it's not bad as long as you get some basic replacement parts just in case.

As for games, DS has to have one of the best handheld libraries out there with great games from pretty much every genre. It's a safe bet for some portable gayman, especially with the dirt cheap flashcards.

>>14656039

Don't fall for XL, period. At least not without a third-party grip. Actually determining which ones have IPS screens is a crapshoot, outside of things like the Happy Home Designer model.

>I fucking told those OLED fags.

That's pretty unfair. In my experience, the blotches only show up if the screen is almost entirely black (such as for loading screens). I got really lucky finding a hackable 3G model which had been left to gather dust or something and it still hasn't got noticeable burn, and looks fucking beautiful. I can't stand to look at the Slim anymore, it's like night and day.

Ever since I bought my Vita and jailbroke it I haven't touched my 3DS at all. The freeshop is so convenient.

Not only are the Vita games really, really good, but it can perfectly emulate psx and psp games. And with Emuparadise its so easy to get any game you want.

I have been using my original DS as an alarm clock for over ten years or so. It's VERY capable in that task. It has an auto-snooze that works like so: Alarm goes off, increasing in volume over a period of about 10 seconds, and maintains the achieved volume level for the remainder of a one minute run time. If you don't shut it off, it goes quiet for five minutes, then starts the cycle again. It will do this for one hour.

I have a cheap flash cart (Top Toy DS) that works with most games and homebrew, but it's been half-ejected for a decade, as I didn't really like anything for the DS.

The 3DS does not have an alarm clock function.

>>14656087 Emuparadise recently dropped all of Nintendo's first-party releases, and possibly the releases of some other companies. Look into torrents instead.

>>14656091 Dude, no joke, if only people designed alarm clocks that good for actual computers, I wouldn't have to complain about it right now.

>>14656087

The 3DS lacked all those small (not ground-breaking, but still fun enough) games the DS Lite had. The Vita in comparison, feels more like a portable Playstation 1/2/3/4 kinda wished there were more ports of PS2 titles like SMT3, Zettai Zetsumei Toshi, Siren, etc but lot of studios are either dead, a shadow of their former self or catering to mobile

>>14655910

>Vita literally translates from Italian to Life

>>14656103

>possibly the releases of some other companies.

Can vouch that emuparadise removed various PS2 games that were getting PS4 PSN rereleases.

>>14655944

The 3DS has input lag and hard locks on DS games, at least on the one DS game I tried to play on it.

It is literally impossible to win the drinking minigame in the Chrono Trigger port on the 3DS, I tried it many, many times. I then put it in my DS and tried it and i won first or second try.

>>14656039

I have had a 1000 series OLED since release and don't have burn in because I'm not retarded and didn't leave the brightness setting on default, which is max brightness. In general it's too fucking bright, I've never moved it of the lowest setting since I changed it and it's brighter than my 2DS screen on max.

Just emulate it. Unlike the 3DS, the DS is easy to emulate, even on cell phones.

>>14656087

I havent jail broken my vita cause I remote play my ps4, but I STILL havent touched my 3DS in months. I even got a Sky3DS kart for it and downloaded a bunch of games. all I played was Animal Crossin and Smash, which I got bored of within a month. the 64gb mem stick for the vita was a better use of my money than the 3DS and the flash cart

get a DS Lite because it has GBA hardware in it because you can play the far better GBA on a nice backlit screen. Get flash carts for both and enjoy.

>>14655886

Because the DS has far better ergonomics.

>>14656039

slim is garbage

>>14655886

>retrocompatible

when did we get too autistic to say "backwards compatible"?

>>14655886

DS Lite has superior battery life if you don't care about 3DS games. I used mine during a flight recently (7 hours round trip) and it never once went into the red. You're not doing that on 3DS.

>>14655878

If I can only have one handheld, it's the PSP, but it comes down to what game libraries you're after, and how much of a buyfag you are.

The best bet for most coverage in as few units as possible is a GBA SP, 3DS, and a PSP.

Breaking down the DS family, if you're going to buy any of them go for either a Lite or a DSi. The original DS has some wonky touch screen issues, and pretty dim backlights.

>>14655947

My brother had this d-pad issue with his DS Lite with even the replacement he got having the same issue, while my own DS Lite was able to register diagonals just fine. I am guessing that Nintendo was having quality control issues during the DS Lite lifespan.

For flash carts, the stated best one out there is the R4i Gold 3DS Plus since it can run on the 3DS. For my own usage since I am only using it on the DS Lite, I use R4-SDHC with custom firmware by RetroGameFan ( https://gbatemp.net/threads/retrogamefan-updates-releases.267243/ ) as the manufacturer's firmware UI is tacky and has soft reset issues with Pokemon games. Only issue with getting a flash cart is the borderline shady business you have to do with the Asia market to get one imported.

I guess.

I thought the thread read "3DS," to which I was going to say FUCK NO because it can't run homebrew or emulators worth a shit.

>>14655878

I'd say so. A used Lite is 30-50 USD, maybe a bit more if it's in really good condition. A GBA/DS flashcart will give you access to a lot of games/homebrew. The battery life is also much greater than the 3DS if you don't care about 3DS games/homebrew. It's been 10 years since I went camping, but having a handheld work for the drive out, playing at night before going to bed, and the drive back on a full charge was a godsend.

I'm just nostalgic for devices that didn't drain the battery 5x as fast on extraneous bullshit. I also miss my flip phone only needing to be charged once every week or 2.

>>14665214

Why DSi? The Lite has access to more flashcarts, accessories like AR, and a GBA slot which can be useful depending on which games or homebrew you want to run. On the other hand, the 3DS can run DSiWare, is more easily hackable than a DSi, and has more homebrew and emulators available.

The original DS Phat compared to the Lite has better buttons and its size allows GBA games to not stick out, but I prefer the look, screen, and battery life of the Lite myself.

>>14665255

DS Lite seems to be hit or miss for people. I fucked up my touch screen from being too aggressive in certain games, but all the buttons work fine. (A simple screen replacement fixed that.) Hell, my console fell on asphalt once and landed right on the hinge, but it only has a small, barely noticeable chip in that corner. No cracks or anything. No scratches anywhere else on the console either.

>>14656091

Have you posted this before? I saw another post from an anon saying he used his DS the same way.

>If you don't shut it off, it goes quiet for five minutes, then starts the cycle again. It will do this for one hour.

That's actually nice. I've slept through alarms because they just stop before being turned off.

>I have a cheap flash cart, but it's been half-ejected for a decade

Why? Did you not disable auto-booting into games? Or is your DS flashed like mine which auto-boots certain flash carts?