84b0af No.14642600
Picrealted was a ton of fun but I just couldn't get over the ass-backwards camera controls. Frankly the fact that I've not seen anyone else complain about them makes me suspect this is one of those games a handful of people on /v/ have actually played and the rest big up based on word of mouth.
cb94f6 No.14642611
Try not being underage, the camera is fine in ninja gaiden black. different games had different control styles before the 7th gen, kiddie.
84b0af No.14642618
>>14642611
It being old doesn't excuse bad decisions in control schemes. Plenty of other games from the same time and even the generation before managed it.
ba42da No.14642634
Pokémon gen 4 with slower movement and battle speed from gen 3. There's some other issues, but speed was probably the worst. Pt/HG/SS only partially fixed it
253a87 No.14642697
Honestly OP that generation of games were my formative years of console vidya.
So I just adapted. Also found out I like underage girls.
c206c5 No.14642751
>tfw wanna replay black or NG2 but don't have an xbox anymore and the sigma versions suck
ca1b3b No.14642760
What >>14642697 said. Adapt or stay shit. I'm still not very good of the game but even I can manage a few playthroughs. These are the same type of faggots that complain that System Shock 1's controls are archaic/too hard to use.
38da96 No.14642771
I just wanted to marry Sylvie
4afac8 No.14642782
The fuck are you on about? The camera was fine in NG: B. Kids these days can't adapt to anything different holy shit.
>>14642751
NG2 was a 360 title.
c206c5 No.14642836
>>14642782
don't have a 360 anymore either
ca1b3b No.14642911
>>14642836
Are they rare around your area? I had to replace mine about a year ago and didn't have too much trouble finding a reasonable deal for one.
d904a6 No.14643034
Underwater segments in my videogames?
>>14642600
The ninja gaiden before black didn't have camera controls if I am correct.
4db5c1 No.14643036
>>14642618
It doesn't control poorly, you just suck at managing it.
c206c5 No.14643037
>>14642911
I'm sure i could get one for a reasonable price online but i don't feel like buying one for one game
b3d1ee No.14643051
>>14643034
You press the right trigger to put the camera behind you.
5ddd6f No.14643268
>Every game in the series has sexy older women
>Can't have. Ever.
Seriously though, the runey system in Rune Factory Frontier has to the most anti-fun mechanic I've seen in a game that can single-handedly ruin anyone's joy. Due to plot, there are 4 elemental spirits in every territory that you must maintain the balance for but it's a suicidal food chain where one of the spirits always gets fucked. Gathering and distributing said spirits is a dull, slow, and repetitive task to do.
If you ignore it, you can completely fuck your save to the point where you might as well start the game over. It's such a simple problem to fix too. Just make it so collecting and distributing the little fucks is a much more simple task. There is a character in the game who can control these elemental spirits so they should have made it where you can have her distribute them in mass.
>>14642611
It depends on where you're at. The camera can get into some bad places in narrow hallways or small rooms. The catacomb stages are a great example of the bad camera in NGB. Even then it was only in a few areas or when you shove your body in a corner and only really see above you.
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=VCGPXQ08KFc
>>14642760
Just because we adapted to it doesn't make it good. Saying that, most enemies will attack you less when off screen. Sometimes not at all.
485aa5 No.14643277
>>14643268
Came here to post this.
FUCKING RUNEYS
cee06c No.14646590
>>14642600
>Frankly the fact that I've not seen anyone else complain about them makes me suspect this is one of those games a handful of people on /v/ have actually played and the rest big up based on word of mouth.
You're only realising this now?
cee06c No.14649222
7c5bd0 No.14649324
>>14646590
Happens with nearly every single console port or Early Access game.
It's amazing
cee06c No.14649326
>>14649324
Or anything made by slavs.
7c5bd0 No.14649346
>>14649326
Nah, mostly Japanese
c66bc0 No.14649990
The lack of direct companion control really drags Neverwinter Nights down.
bc9415 No.14650171
Jesus Christ, I knew /v/ was autistic, but not this autistic.
Adapting to video games, a bunch of 1s and 0s, is spitting on the graves of your ancestors who knew that changing themselves was a cuck move when you could just change everything else.
I'd say to grow up, but implying you're all being childish is an insult to kids.
d9332a No.14653978
f77c91 No.14655043
>>14642751
>no pic when posting tfw
>thinks the Sigma versions suck when they are nearly identical or better than the originals
sage because this thread is as fucking retarded as OP
485aa5 No.14658229
>>14655043
>>no pic when posting tfw
Shoo, newfag
2b45d9 No.14659187
The fucking menus are total ass. All selections reset if you change map. Jump awkward scroll bar. Unable to properly preview mechs without changing menu.
e65afe No.14659216
>>14642600
Holy shit OP you are a colossal faggot. Bet you don't even want to fuck Awakened Alma without a condom
4db5c1 No.14659221
>>14655043
sigma versions aren't "nearly" identical to the originals. They're a notable difference from them, rebalanced, made easier in a lot of cases. Play the originals and accept they're different.
c336cf No.14659276
>>14649990
>The lack of direct companion control really drags Neverwinter Nights down.
This was due to the game being designed around multiplayer. It was originally supposed to be an mmo that they shifted to a singleplayer game really late into development
956ff8 No.14659421
The police pursuits offer no meaning to the story and only exist because they did in most wanted. In most wanted, to progress the game and the story, you had to complete both race events and complete pursuit challenges, and acquire a certain bounty to challenge the blacklist rival.
In carbon, to challenge a boss to a race, you just have to win events and claim each risk-style block of their territory.
Most wanted made the rivals feel like a street-racing gang where notoriety was important to their status, in addition to their jacked-up car where as in carbon, the bosses aren't much than a person who has a color-coordinated group of followers.
It really upsets me that pursuits have no meaning in this game, and that it's possible to beat the game without being in one, minus the one the game puts you into at the start.
Thus, why MW:05 > Carbon
Don't mention underground, both are great games and are equally as good, just underground2 is more of underground.
c336cf No.14659449
>>14659421
I would also say the game generally lacks the same player motivation as Most Wanted
Since in MW you feel compelled to beat it to get the player's car back. Which you lost at the start of the game
Whereas in Carbon no such motivation exists. It's similar to UG2 where you just have a vague villain you forget about.
956ff8 No.14659466
>>14659449
Carbon is about helping darius out by taking out the other crews, it isn't until the last bit does he become a villain. but he does dress in red, drive a red audi, is with your ex-gf who drives a red GT he bought her. So I mean….
In underground2 it's a similar thing, but if you skipped the cutscenes (I did when I was young and stupid) you miss a lot, you really did. But yeah, Mostwanted had a real vibe in it. Replaying it again for the hell of it.
I don't remember vic being so tough to beat with taz's lexus
da4c33 No.14659755
>>14642611
Trying too hard there Anon, bad camera angles was just an accepted thing that everyone tolerated more.
2b45d9 No.14661125
>>14649990
fucking this. the gnome henchman was a totally useless little shitstain cause he would just stand there casting gay buff spells on himself
d86c05 No.14661142
>>14649990
What do you think are the odds that Beamdog (who developed and published the game :^) ) are ever going to bother fixing that?
b3d1ee No.14661146
>>14659216
How different is she in black? In the original she is one of the easier bosses
4bfe51 No.14661242
>>14642600
>Frankly the fact that I've not seen anyone else complain about them makes me suspect this is one of those games a handful of people on /v/ have actually played and the rest big up based on word of mouth.
Or maybe no one else complains about them because they handled them just fine, and you're simply bad. Funny how you automatically assume it's everyone else who's at fault, rather than yourself.
c1acef No.14661250
>>14661142
Fans made mods do fix that, however if I wanted Beamdog to work on it I'd want them to make the game compatible with modern OS' fuck Win10 though.
e65afe No.14661255
>>14661146
It's the same boss in both versions as far as I know. I just really want to fuck either Alma or a Bast fiend
1c27fa No.14661257
>>14643034
Try guarding like >>14643051 said. It was standard back then for 3D action games to reset camera positions like that. DMC(as a franchise) and Lament of Innocence were one of the few exeptions IIRC and the fad started with Musou? Or was it Shinobi?
e51336 No.14661365
>>14642634
Gen 4 was the beginning of the end for Pokemon. Stealth rock was a mistake while Tyranitar and Friends ran pretty much unchecked during gen 4.
b3d1ee No.14661437
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>>14661255
Ah thought they might have changed her when you fight her for the second time, first playthrough I was shitting myself because of the tough time I had with her the 1st time only for it to be a breeze.
e65afe No.14661556
>>14661437
Yeah, I remember having a pretty hard time with Alma when fighting her for the first time, but then she became a joke once I learned that you can rape her by using the flying swallow technique followed by the charged spinning move
dcd11a No.14661954
>>14661142
>What do you think are the odds that Beamdog (who developed and published the game :^) ) are ever going to bother fixing that?
It's not something that can be fixed without radically breaking things. Since it would make most mods completely incompatible in the process since you'd need to radically change the interface, scripting and so forth. And more people are going to be angry about that.
>>14661250
>Fans made mods do fix that
It's mostly just faking it through scripting.
c66bc0 No.14662872
>>14661142
Low, unfortunately. They're idiologically opposed to fixing it. They want everyone to play multiplayer.
>>14661250
>Fans made mods do fix that
No they don't. The best they can do is let you direct all of your companions to attack a specific enemy. You still can't control them individually, use their spells or abilities, or choose what spells they have.
>>14661954
>It's not something that can be fixed without radically breaking things. Since it would make most mods completely incompatible in the process since you'd need to radically change the interface, scripting and so forth.
>It's not something that can be fixed without radically breaking things. Since it would make most mods completely incompatible in the process since you'd need to radically change the interface, scripting and so forth.
I don't think that's true. If it were, Beamdog would have said that. Instead, they basically said "We don't like singleplayer, so fuck you."
>And more people are going to be angry about that.
I doubt it. A *lot* of people want it.
fe4307 No.14664598
I played hundreds of hours in each of the Ninja Gaiden 1 Black / Sigma, and Ninja Gaiden 2 Vanilla / Sigma, beaten master ninja in all of them.
Made a big list of a bunch of things I saw in changes between the games. Though I never really finished the list for NG2 comparisons, I slapped together some of my notes here.
In the end, it's all going to come down to personal preference. Sigma usually improves on most things, but then screws up somewhere else that it feels like a side grade overall. There were a few good improvements Sigma 1 had and it kept the core of the game the same that were overall…just good improvements! Like press up on directional pad to use healing item without having to pause action to go into menu = faster paced combat and better flow than in Black, but Sigma has longer loading / saving times which hurt that fast paced flow.
The Fiendish challenge in Sigma in the arena was killer, because the berserkers were TONS more deadlier. NG2 vanilla had more enemies on screen that were weaker, NGS2 Sigma had fewer enemies that were stronger (so much so that in master mode a regular enemy's throw would usually kill you). This time, it was the Test Of Valor in NG2 Vanilla that were over the top in terms of difficulty, where you had to use the right strategy of always blocking + moving and playing SUPER defensively just to win when playing master mode. I think the only practical way to beat sone of the fiendish challenges in NG2 Vanilla was to destroy the bodies of some enemies (but not kill them) so that they would crawl around while you killed their buddies for ten minutes straight (and always holding down the block button).
Check out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLP7lmf0VDk
You see those blue flying monsters that are always shooting missiles at you for the 20 minutes you're doing the test of valor? They normally shoot twice as fast, but the guy destroyed one out of their two rocket launcher packs then doesn't kill them, so they slow down how fast they spam rockets.
Overall, I think I prefer Sigma for NG1, and Vanilla for NG2. They had the best pacings I feel. Though, NG2 Sigma had more characters & costumes.
fe4307 No.14664625
>>14664598
oops, posted same file twice
017a38 No.14664646
>>14642611
Try not being underage. The camera was the biggest complaint about this game in its time
5f9217 No.14664658
>>14664625
I can't be the only one who first thought there was some weird robot/alien cock in front of his face at first.
d904a6 No.14664868
>>14664658
speaking of gay, ryu is fucking swole
0ad362 No.14665190
>>14664646
Was it? I was wiser back then. Didn't visit gaming forums.
What I do remember is that every review scored it a 90.
a2c3b6 No.14665197
>>14642611
12 year old detected.
Lurk for five years, you look ridiculous.
5f9217 No.14665205
>>14665195
Do you think Ash fucked his Pikachu at some point?
017a38 No.14665220
>>14650171
Adaptation to one's environment is the core of how humanity got to the point where we can live in almost every climate on this planet. Being so stuck in your ways that you lose sight of what's happening around you is a fast path to extinction.
0ad362 No.14665734
>>14665220
Fuck off tools are for nerds! And only soyboys need fire.
dcf753 No.14665766
The leveling system in Near A Tomato.
There is zero character customization or builds so it has literally no reason to exist, it's basically just damage scaling that ends up making the endgame piss easy and ruins the chapter replay feature.
4db5c1 No.14665769
>>14665766
the game is easy but there is a lot of customization and builds what the fuck are you talking about
dcf753 No.14665824
>>14665769
You mean the chips, I'm talking about the level ups, they're only for damage scaling.
50d814 No.14665853
>>14650171
You can't change everything.