7418ff No.14614011
So, I just beat this hunk of garbage. How in the world did this game get the kind of praise that it did? It sits at a 94 on Metacritic and I've seen a great many people talk about how it's one of their favorite games of all time. Did they think the twist was just that cool? There's no way it was because of the gameplay.
7b3d4c No.14614017
>>14614011
Ive been asking the same since it came out an all my friends were jerking off with those games.
Not only is kratos an unlikeable asshole, but the game isnt really that fun either.
f23f6a No.14614021
Its a set piece delivery mechanism not unlike Uncharted. Normalfags with no standards love that shit.
032240 No.14614027
It was created and meant to be an accessible Devil May Cry, so for the average person who isn't good enough to git gud at DMC, it's a fun game.
45d53a No.14614046
>edgy "badass" protagonist
>titties
>QTE filled gameplay
It was designed to appeal to 13-year-olds and it worked.
a9bd9c No.14614052
>>14614046
That makes more sense, I enjoyed DMC1 just fine when I was a kid.
032240 No.14614065
>>14614047
Yeah that's an apt summary.
7418ff No.14614079
>>14614027
To be honest with you, this is one of very few hack 'n' slash games I've actually played myself. The only other one that comes to mind immediately is in fact DMC 3, but even though I'm relatively green to hack 'n' slashes, I could still very obviously feel how shallow this game was. Not only that but it was extremely buggy as well. I fell through the map at least 7 times, and I won't even get started on the janky hitboxes and lack of lock-on.
e12f53 No.14614084
>>14614011
>How in the world did this game get the kind of praise that it did?
Because the vidya industry was dead and actual gamers had been replaced with retarded niggerfaggots by the time God of War came out. So they herped, and derped, showered it with praise because it made their tiny casual brains tingle.
cb7287 No.14614100
I enjoyed the second game much more than the first and couldn't even finish the first. Combat wise, 3 is the best but it's no Bayonetta, Viewtiful, or DMC. I wouldn't call the games great but they're not bad. It's so average that the only reason it's brought up at all is because, somehow, the newest game is being praised for being a The Last of Us clone. If I were you I wouldn't bother playing the rest of the series and just look at a few boss fights if you care that much about what happens.
b5d586 No.14614153
>>14614011
It's not as bad as its horrendous walking simulator reboot. GOW was never some high brow, technical action game, but at least it was a game, as opposed to being a terrible, pretentious movie.
acd2c7 No.14614155
>>14614096
>>14614123
Are you screwing with us?
190fca No.14614157
>>14614123
Take it easy with the shitposting, pal.
6e421b No.14614172
I mean people have shit taste, stop expecting everyone to have as good as taste as you
6f4427 No.14614245
>>14614011
It was one of the setpiece monsters of the mid 2000s. Alongside Resident Evil 4 and Gears of War, it introduced this concept of amazing looking action setpieces even when the actual gameplay behind it is too shallow. And people loved that shit when it came out.
Granted, of those three, only God of War was not a good game under the hood. Even then, the spectacle it showed along its accessibility basically made it an instant hit.
90e8e4 No.14614251
I told people to like it as a joke.
1aaa97 No.14614283
Same reason people love star wars, anon, objectively garbage taste. It stretches to processed foods, public schooling, worship of whoever's in charge regardless of their agenda, etc. etc.
I never wanted to be anything like a hipster, but darn it all if you don't have to be one nowadays by necessity.
8a1895 No.14614321
>>14614308
Are you done with your faggotry yet?
b5d586 No.14614326
7418ff No.14614357
>>14614308
I know I gave it a chance and I regret every second. Are you trying to say 2 and 3 are better? I'm skeptical to say the least.
b5d586 No.14614377
>>14614356
I didn't say you were. You could be a tranny. You're enough of a cunt that you could be either one.
b5d586 No.14614424
>>14614411
I've had enough of you. Ironic shilling is still shilling.
6dc046 No.14614454
>>14614123
>>14614096
>>14614171
>>14614308
>>14614356
>>14614411
>>14614444
Your attempts at larping as an SJW are pathetic. Its fine to shit on the original games, but to say that the next one is going to be awesome and using SJW lingo is insanity.
0aae85 No.14614520
>>14614011
No idea. I've heard people go as far as to say Ninja Gaiden was made obsolete when God of War came out. Maybe it's just because of all the tits?
7418ff No.14614563
>>14614520
I can tell you with the utmost certainty that NG has superior cheesecake if Team Ninja's other work is anything to go by. Not that it's that much of an achievement for anything to beat GoW in that department (much like every other department), the most you get in the first game is like 2 pairs of very low poly PS1-tier bolt-ons. But hey you can see the nipples I guess?
6dc046 No.14614716
>>14614470
>extremely dumbed down gameplay
>recycled bosses
>only one weapon the entire game
>fucked up hit boxes
>crafting
Nah I am good. I am planning to buy the complete saga with the PSP games remastered anyways. At least I know what I am getting.
214c87 No.14614748
Sony money and normalfags, what else?
c6801d No.14614796
>>14614027
This game single handedly made me hate button mashing QTEs, even now button mashing QTEs are a deal breaker for me.
617c0c No.14614831
GoW is a ripoff of pic related..
0aae85 No.14614905
>>14614563
>But hey you can see the nipples I guess?
That's what I'm talking about. Nipples in a (console)games were a big deal back then.
3c27b7 No.14614928
GoW was coming close to where it should be (like Bayo or DMC4) with 3
but devs decided it should be souls/TLoU garbage instead
what's worse, the man who praised GoW3 and thinks even Bayo can't top it, is okay with this shit and wanna do something similar to DMC one day
what the fuck happened?
5ba1b0 No.14614950
>>14614928
Didn't 3 sell really well too? Provided that's the case, why the fuck did they mess with it anyway?
7fca9c No.14614959
>>14614011
It's because it's fun.
214c87 No.14614979
>>14614959
>It's fun
So is watching paint dry
503aed No.14614988
>>14614979
What a shitty argument. Got anything else, kiddo?
7fca9c No.14615010
>>14614979
>it's the "I only play intelligent games for intelligent gamers such as myself" anon from the other God of War thread again
214c87 No.14615037
>>14614988
At least I have one mate
Unlike yourself
GoW is not as fun as other games you could rather waste your time with.
Seeing paint dry for 3 minutes is a shitty waste of your fucking time as well, no matter how much fun it is.
>>14615010
I have no idea what you're fucking talking about but I'm glad someone made you this butthurt.
The last post I made on a GoW thread was about how it was nothing but casualized DmC with shitty unfaithful mythology that takes too many liberties and Americanizes it to shit.
e6cd34 No.14615043
>>14614011
Critics have extremely shit taste and will constantly flip flop on whether a game is good or not.
350090 No.14615052
>>14615037
>pic
goddamn when did the edgelord teens find this place
0e4701 No.14615055
I got gifted those games back when they came out. They were cheap instagraftication romps of over the top violence and pointless button mashing events to more efficently kill enemies which was somewhat required on higher levels just because they ended up such giant sacks of HP you wanted gone pronto.
I think what I remember most was, outside going for the stupidly high difficulty levels which were mostly making everything hit like a truck and have mountains of health to grind down was just how stupidly easy it was if you didn't crank it up. Everything about it was designed to be a power fantasy almost impossible to fuck up. You really had to intentionally be shit or truly be shit to lose playing GoW. Which is why it was so mind numbingly dull. Go one place, kill everything, go another place, kill everything, go sound like your having a hernia pushing the gimmick block for a bit, OH HEY TITS, move on and kill some more everything, wash rinse repeat.
That's about all I really remember outside Kratos fucking up the entire pantheon and then shitting all other Athena's batshit insane plan to take over by killing himself. But now he's somehow not dead and having to take care of a brat that's not even his in a rehash of another game because fuck being original anymore.
It's an okay drinking game lineup because it's so fucking simple to beat but that is basically it. And even then I got plenty better that are actually fun to play shitfaced instead of merely occupy my time with.
214c87 No.14615062
>>14615052
You must be new here
503aed No.14615069
>>14615062
The only newfag here, is you. You keep embarrassing yourself at every turn. Best to just leave this thread, pal. There is nothing you can do to repair the damage you've done.
Sad, just sad. I pity you.
214c87 No.14615094
>>14615069
>Literally no fucking argument
>Just trying to stir up shit like a /tv/ tier nigger
Pathetic, back to the cotton fields
190fca No.14615105
>>14614308
>A bit too complicated
The worst part is I can already imagine a game journalist actually saying this unironically.
c6801d No.14615117
>>14615069
You don't type like anyone I recognize.
7418ff No.14615125
>>14614959
What did you have fun with Anon? I'm really trying to understand here.
214c87 No.14615196
>>14615125
Shitposting about it here
ea7a02 No.14615660
>>14614011
If you watched the David Jaffe interview on GoW and look at this, everything makes sense.
7c967c No.14615684
>>14614011
Published and marketed by Sony, there exists no other reason, I didn't get it either, my brother recommended it to me, and at that time I hadn't even yet played Devil May Cry and could tell it was shallow.
God of War is probably the most egregious of the sort of games where no alternative exists so people see it as the height of the genre, but in God of Wars case superior alternatives do exist and even pre date it, other examples of this shit are The Elder Scrolls and Borderlands.
>>14614100
I remember an instructor in my army training showing and gushing over the kill scenes in the third game, and at that time I hadn't even played any clover/Platinum Games, I played TW101 as the first one and it blows the fuck out of everything in the God of War series, especially the kill scenes, it's so stupidly satisfying to slice Laambo in half with his own sword and listen to him complain about it afterwards, but it's the culmination of gameplay events that really make these satisfying.
778420 No.14615691
>God of War was totally never good, so instead buy nuGod of Soy thread #435
5d12fc No.14615714
>>14614047
And his father abandoned him
6dc046 No.14615722
>>14615196
I think you replied to the wrong anon.
>>14615691
Yes, goyim. Nu-God of War is just like Dark Souls. You want to be hardcore don't you? So play our mongrolized, casualized version of DS meets TLoU.
42a056 No.14615740
>>14614011
People who don't know any better
That's why you have trash like Halo or Uncharted being praised to high heaven
But can you blame them? That's just the power of marketing, why would they bother looking into actual good game when there are lots of ads and friends telling them that garbage is the newest hot shit?
778420 No.14615758
>>14615722
God of War is the Dark Souls of action genre… Only this time, you play the role of the BOSSES!
New God of War is the Dark Souls of Role playing games interactives. Grown up and a refreshing take on admittedly prehistoric previous titles, God of War brings something new to the Dark Souls genre: maturity. No longer are you simply running around aimlessly and tearing up any poor soul that comes in your path like some mannish brute. Here, you will be introduced to a heart touching story about a father, his son and his axe. Hehe, I couldn't resist, mr Tolkien, you've taught me too well. In God of War you play the role of a Dark Souls boss, complete with an underling and bullshit attack hitboxes. So fear not, true players! Your prayers have been answered, for you will no longer be pestered, molestered and hauntered by those goofy goobers and their toxic GIT GUD caveman mentality, yuck. I mean come on, it's 2018, we've moved on from bashing rocks together and stringing combos, we are here for the narrative. And God of War sure delivers.
81c14a No.14615845
>>14615740
>Ninja Gaiden has XXXY
>God of war has □□□△
Wow, these combos are so totally different, that's amazing.
No but really, GoW may not be as deep as glorious Nippon action games but I still found the first game to be a pretty damn good time. Quick time events certainly didn't age well though. GoW2 was OK but the way the first game ended, it really never should have been made. The PSP prequel games made absolutely no sense within the context of the first game, so at that point the series starts to feel like a joke. God of War 3's main issue I felt was that all the weapons felt to similar, except for the first weapons I guess but even that one couldn't resist having an attack that involved flailing chains around. I didn't play Ascension other than a demo of it, and it just felt weird to control, again for prequel reasons.
NuGod of War looks awful.
81c14a No.14615849
>>14615845
too* similar, except for the fist* weapon
Fuck me time for sleep.
000000 No.14615863
>>14615758
>Dark Souls of action genre
I thought Dark Souls is Dark Souls of action genre.
778420 No.14615903
7418ff No.14615952
>>14615691
Help me to understand how GoW1 was good, and also kindly point me to where I recommended that anyone purchase or otherwise play the new one.
778420 No.14615982
>>14615952
I don't have to educate you :3
>nugod of war is 2 weeks away from being released
>threads start popping up not simply talking about god of war, but specifically trashing classic god of war titles
GoW was never some sort of pinnacle in gaming. But it was far from shit. It didn't start the violent craze, we had this amount of gore back in the 90's. It didn't start the QTE craze, RE4 is far more responsible for popularizing it and still it wasn't the progenitor of QTEs. If anything, those FMV games on sega CD and such were a bigger culprit. It wasn't the top tier CUHRAYZEE game either, it never claimed to be one.
It was a brutal, bloody, pretty difficult, slightly repetitive action game about fucking greek goddesses , fucking over greek gods and ripping&tearing ordinary greek wildlife in the process.
And now they're taking THAT franchise and turning it into a TLOU clone. If it can happen to GoW it can happen to Mortal Kombat, Devil May Cry, Hotline Miami, Carmageddon, Painkiller, Serious Sam, Shadow Warrior and Blood.
This isn't our first rodeo, pardner.
>>14615978
it produces weak bait
778420 No.14616001
>>14615993
>>14614123
you already used that bait
7418ff No.14616006
>>14615982
My friend if you want to aim the autism at anyone aim it at this guy >>14615993
Old God of War is garbage and I feel like if a worse reboot wasn't about to come out you wouldn't be trying to defend it like you are.
82df0b No.14616008
>>14614831
Finally someone knows what's up. The true greek hero and people never gave him a chance. Maybe due to Brittney Spears not showing tits yet everyone in GOW showing tits?
e37290 No.14616019
>>14616001
that guy is right though, you probably never played it
bf0716 No.14616020
It popularized QTEs, it was an instant hit with the game journos.
c03f18 No.14616044
>>14616023
>>14616019
I get the feeling a lot of people on this board never actually play the games they love to bitch about and decry as "the worst piece of shit ever made".
778420 No.14616046
>>14616006
>Old God of War is garbage
wrong, it's really tasty trash food
>and I feel like if a worse reboot wasn't about to come out you wouldn't be trying to defend it like you are.
that makes 0 sense, why would I defend something now if I had always liked it?
>>14616019
I did, it was awful to play and even more awful to look at with all that vaseline smeared on the screen every time you moved the camera. Next, why don't we make Dawn of War 4 as a cooking sim?
>>14616020
Shenmue and RE4 did just as much damage, but I don't see you shitting on those games. At least not until a new resident evil or shenmue come out.
>>14616023
>they
my preferred pronouns are Lord, Holy and Almighty
>>14616044
I get the feeling there is a lot of bait in this thread.
e37290 No.14616077
>>14616060
Just filter him, he's some sort of gamercuck autist that will continue to shit up the thread if you let him, just because he's a special snowflake protected by mark & his shit mods.
87fe2e No.14616091
7418ff No.14616266
>>14616046
>why would I defend something now if I had always liked it?
It's not very common for someone to defend something this shallow and entry level here, and with your very blatant Aspergers I'd expect it even less.
778420 No.14616283
>>14616266
By that logic Tetris, Kirby and Shantae are all terrible games not worth defending and should all grow up and be transformed into dating sims with automatic checkpoint saving system.
214c87 No.14616290
>>14615691
>>14615722
>>14615758
>If you hate older GoW games you like the new even worse garbage
Kill yourselves shit eaters, anything done by Santa Monica is fucking garbage.
7418ff No.14616328
>>14616283
The games you've listed off don't pretend to be complex and aren't praised as such. Not to mention the fact that they are honestly probably all more deep than GoW when you get down to it given that GoW is literally just mashing square with some rolls and blocks here and there with a gratuitous amount of QTEs to break it up. Regardless, at the end of the day, if you feel like everything is bait and shilling, why play into it by responding to the thread at all? Contrary to what you seem to believe, saging and dumping your bait folder isn't a downvote. Why waste the time?
90e8e4 No.14616350
>>14614831
Throw a bit of Castlevnaia: Lament of Innocence in there as well.
778420 No.14616354
>>14616328
>The games you've listed off don't pretend to be complex
neither does God of War or it's creators
>and aren't praised as such
point me to a dozen articles from "professional gaming journaists" praising original god of war titles for their complexity
>just mash square
beat god of war using only square and some rolls and blocks here and there on at least normal difficulty and stream/record it
>why are you responding?
not letting the cancer and misinfo spread
7418ff No.14616410
>>14616354
>beat god of war using only square and some rolls and blocks here and there on at least normal difficulty and stream/record it
I literally just did yesterday. That's why I started this thread. I'm not going to do it again just because you think your precious hunk of shallow, overrated garbage is any better or more complex than it really is. As far as the claims of it not trying to pretend to be complex go, I don't know what your impression of hack 'n' slash games is exactly, but I've always thought of them to be pretty mechanically complex games that took some learning to get good/succeed at. When someone makes a hack and slash game, I'd wager that most people would expect complexity out of it. If they wanted to make a shallow set piece "junk food" title, why not drop the bullshit masquerade and just make a Quantic Dream type game? As far as trying to not let "the cancer and misinfo" (read: people disagreeing with my unapologetically shit taste) spread, all you've managed to do is show your ass and act like a retard in a thread that was created to try and understand what people liked about the game. Congratulations on that if that was anywhere near your goal Anon.
0c5a2b No.14616420
>>14616354
>beat god of war using only square and some rolls and blocks here and there
That is literally how most people beat the game.
a4ba36 No.14616422
>>14614011
The same reason you will start seeing this about shit like Undertale - the rejects of then-/v/ are the "oldfags" of today's /v/ and there is no one left to keep their shit tastes in check.
778420 No.14616538
>>14616410
well I just beat Devil May Cry a few minutes ago without using anything other than Ebony and Ivory. But I'm not going to prove that.
You keep saying that I think it's some holy grain of gaming. Why? I said it was fun and well made, not complex.
also, you seem to be confusing hack&slash with CUHRRRAAAAYZAAAY. DMC, Ninja Gaiden, Bayonetta, Van Hellsing and Nightmare before Christmas fall into this category. GoW is more akin to a 3d brawler/beat 'em up.
>I wanted to know why people liked this game, but first let me shit all over it for no reason
I told you why I liked it, it's fun. Square for trash mobs, triangle combos for larger dudes, stuns for cyclops, grab and toss for small guy that will peck at your health if you don't get rid of them or gain some distance immediately, magic for crowd control and sniping archers, parry for some breathing room when out of magic. It's a fun cycle. And it stayed fun for at least 5 games (I never played Ascension). I'd like it to stay that way, there is no need to have a game that has almost nothing in common with the original material to sully its name and then be hailed by journos as TRUE GAMING EXPERIENCE! for years to come.
>>14616420
most people play on easy? sucks to be them to be this boring
de7be3 No.14616573
>>14614928
>>14614950
Ascension sucked ass and sold poorly, and instead of considering that they should expand on 3 further instead of adding stupid shit like multiplayer, the fag directing the current game decided to go full on with a True Cinematic Experience™, something he had to literally beg Sony to do since they wanted the series dead after Ascension sucked ass and sold poorly. I said this in a previous GOW thread, and I'll say this again, The Last of Us might be one of the worst things to happen to gaming since The Orange Box and Modern Warfare in 2007.
Half tempted to upload my 3 mp4s I saved of that """gameplay""" that Sony removed from jewtube. Would need 3 different posts to do so though.
e3c7f3 No.14616587
>>14616538
Is this the new meme spacing?
7418ff No.14616589
>>14616538
>it's fun
That's flimsy as fuck. What makes it fun? You say this cycle (which the game does NOT require you to use by any stretch of the imagination) is fun, but I'm not understanding how one could find doing your "cycle" or especially just mashing buttons to be fun throughout what shouldn't feel like such a long game, clocking in at like what, 8 hours? But it's so repetitive and shallow that it feels closer to 80. It's a total slog, you're not illustrating properly what's enjoyable about the game, and I'm still not seeing why you keep bringing up the reboot.
b05d57 No.14616599
>>14615691
Why do the recent influx of nu-right pussies constantly talk about "soy"? These newfags are obsessed.
778420 No.14616605
>>14616589
>why did people like this?
<it's fun
>why was it fun?
<because of the gameplay cycle being what it is
>what makes it fun?
anon
>>14616599
because it's an epidemic
>nu-right
wew
859736 No.14616611
>>14615062
>new
How?
Cake kike is meme-hated but having a poorly drawn red anon execute him like that is edgelord-tier
7418ff No.14616646
>>14616605
It's not adding up, Anon. You're straight up pretending that you have to play on easy for the combat to be shallow and easy, and you've praised the game for being cyclical which could only really lead one to believe it lacks variety. It does, since as you progress through the game, all that really changes is the enemies getting different skins and bigger health bars. Sometimes they send more at you and they do more damage. "It's fun" doesn't address anything, and the way you've attempted to assess it has made it sound almost as bad as someone who was going out of their way to make it sound as repetitive as possible.
f436b4 No.14616693
>>14616599
if you have testicles, avoid soy
778420 No.14616704
>>14616646
gameplay cycle =/= game is cyclical (?)
gameplay cycle refers to whatever it is you do in a game on a repeating basis. Some examples:
Devil May Cry 3: walk into room or area, get locked in, dispatch enemies in the most stylish way possible, proceed to next room.
X com: manage base and supplies, assign R&D projects, respond to an alert, play the mission, return to base and deal with your losses.
Super Metroid: go left, navigate to the nearest save room, explore the rest of current area, find new item, use said item on a boss, proceed deeper or right.
You though, you make it sound like the game is indefensible, like it's bottom tier trash that you had to waste 8 hours of your life on. Oh damn, the Cerberus arena, oh man they keep multiplying, but I'm just wailing through them with square, god this is so boring, I wish there was something else I could do besides tap square and magically win every fight on Easy.
Fuck you man, people liked the game before the dark ages began, it was good for what it was and never pretended to be anything else. Nobody had much of a problem with it other than the QTEs until NOW
NOW when nugod of war is coming out in 2 weeks and the self-insert director keeps posting stale memes about how many days are left until this pile of shit is released and a flood of paid positive press comes out.
29e6e9 No.14616727
>>14615845
The joke is that Ninja Gaiden has actual combos whereas in God of War you just press the same button over and over.
7418ff No.14616744
>>14616704
>You though, you make it sound like the game is indefensible
It pretty much is
>like it's bottom tier trash that you had to waste 8 hours of your life on
It was indeed a waste
>I'm just wailing through them with square
I was
>I wish there was something else I could do besides tap square
I did indeed wish that, if only the game actually encouraged it by making it not viable to mash square
>magically win every fight on Easy
It was normal.
>people liked the game before the dark ages began
Where at, on fucking NeoGaf? Brother, if you think that people didn't used to shit on this game on this site and before the GG exodus, I don't know what to tell you other than to lurk more. I get and appreciate that you're trying your best to fit in with the shill talk but you're not quite there yet. Maybe refrain for a few more months and you'll get there eventually.
>blah blah reboot, soy, etc.
For the umpteenth time, I could not give half a fuck about the reboot my friend. I guess if you want to be super duper obtuse, yes, I decided to give this game a go because the new one is coming and it reminded me of the hordes of normalfags revering the first one like it was the Mona Lisa of video games.
778420 No.14616810
>>14616744
> I could not give half a fuck about the reboot my friend
sure, that's why you made this thread now and not near god of soy release date
>nuh-uh I'm the oldfag, this was before goobergabbers
fuck outta here
214c87 No.14616813
>>14616599
Because a vocal minority of shitposters including the butthurt faggot that created this crap on cuckchan got banned from there for trying to push this garbage and when they got banned for literally spamming this on there some came here, now cancerous Twatter and Reddit cuckservatives keep posting this faggotry like it was ever funny.
Beware though, if you dislike this unfunny newfaggot cuckchan shit you're a soyboy yourself, despite the fact that most already made fun of NuMale cuckholds since at least 2013
>>14616611
That's nothing compared to Mark OC from years past.
I guess h8ch is just too extreme for you, you might want to go back.
778420 No.14616823
>>14616810
and not any time other than near god of soy release day*
214c87 No.14616832
>>14616693
This has been known for ages
I also heard some US states also use compounds to purify tap water and that said coumpounds contain estrogen.
7418ff No.14616923
>>14616823
That has already been explained, aspie. You're so mad you can't even form a coherent post. Face it, you're just looking for something to be outraged about.
778420 No.14616962
>>14616923
I have plenty to be outraged about as is. Doesn't mean you should get away from talking shit about a good game while passively shilling for the new one.
Sure, it's just a (((coincidence))) you started talking about us always being at war with Eastasia.
e3c7f3 No.14616990
>>14616813
yeah the OC used to be good like the anton & coolpecker modeler shitting on mark, now it's just lazy larper shit.
4a9997 No.14616997
>>14614011
the game is more than the sum of it's parts
>first and so far best use of QTEs integrated into gameplay
>fluid controls and well placed camera
>gore, tiddis and edgy epic moments
>brain dead but satisfying combat just a little bit more complex than old school beat em ups
>it had a semi technical side to it, you couldn't just brute force and buttonsmash your way through hard mode
>plenty of climbing and puzzles to break up the monotony and keep things fresh
>death traps to avoid everywhere
>leveling and secrets for the grindcucks and collectatonfags
>top notch presentation
>back in the day, the Temple of Pandora chained to Chronos's back while he was doomed to cralw forever in the desert was the most "Woah" shit anyone had seen in vidya
There are shit games, and then there are shit games that you finish, remeber and talk about for generations, GoW was the later, each and every one of it's parts may have been done much better in other games, but it's not like they were shit in GoW, not a single one the game parts is awfull on it's own (unlike the new one with unskipable walking segments and that stupid nonstoptalkin NPChild) and the game managed to blend them all masterfully
God of War is to Vidya what Michael Bay Transformers would have been to movies had there been no human characters
7418ff No.14617013
>>14616962
If you'd have actually been around here instead of NeoGaf you'd know I'm right. It's been real though buddy, but I'm about to have to hop off of here and take a nap. I'd recommend you check out ResetEra for a really cool forum for like-minded people since you seem to be taking your old pals leaving NeoGaf so very hard.
214c87 No.14617036
>>14616962
>The old ones were totally good, if you dislike them you totally like and are shilling for the new cinematic piece of shit
Your overrated childhood game is shit you fucking underage
caa9a8 No.14617055
>>14614831
Fuck, used to play Rygar all the time on MAME as a kid. That was good shit.
In reference to OP, i think i beat the whole GoW on PSP while watching tv and just mashing on one button the whole time while moving forward. Shit was easy.
778420 No.14617062
>>14617036
If it were any other day (or if new TLOu wans't on the way, rather) I would've just explained why I liked it, said "To each their own" and called it a day. I don't like Devil May Cry games, but I won't shit on them because they're objectively good games except 2 and DMC that have an extremely high skill ceiling.
214c87 No.14617083
>>14617062
GoW isn't objectively good however
It's objectively average to mediocre
778420 No.14617206
>>14617083
I disagree. I think it's slightly above average.
4a9997 No.14617211
>>14616573
DO IT FAGGOT
>>14615660
OW THE EDGE
>>14616589
>You say this cycle (which the game does NOT require you to use by any stretch of the imagination) is fun
you clearly played it on easy m8
GoW is brainless but not retarded, you try rushing through the game with nothing but the square x 3 combo and you'll get your ass kicked
>>14616646
>You're straight up pretending that you have to play on easy for the combat to be shallow and easy
it ain't pretending faggot, on harder dificulties enemies hit like a truck rush you like a mosh pit and they just keep coming in droves no matter how many you kill
you think it's easy trying to fight 3 gorogns at the same time who try to petryfiyo while harpies divebomb you from above and some damage sponge tank enemy rushes you?
>you've praised the game for being cyclical which could only really lead one to believe it lacks variety
you can't be so retarded as to take that literally
>>14616744
>hurrdurr it's shit goyim, it's always been shit go buy the new one
tell me more about how old school hack n slash/beat em up and tomb raider tier exploring are shit
>I did indeed wish that, if only the game actually encouraged it by making it not viable to mash square
do try playing on Normal instead of just easy, you'll encounter enemies who not only block you but will attack you from the side while you are distracted with another one
>hurrdurr go back to neofag
>>>/oven/
>I could not give half a fuck about the reboot my friend
then the timing and shilly content of this shill infested tread must be (((pure coincidence)))
>>14617013
>hurrdurr i'm an oldfag and your a Neofaggot
>>14617036
can't blame the anon for his suspicion, this tread is full of shills, the timing is to perfect and it has all the hallmarks of kike damage contro OP (((we can't shill the new one so let's shit on the old ones to try sweep the newone's problem under the rug as a non issue)))
>>14617055
PS2 Rygar was shit, inferior to GoW in every way, but it still had it's charm
>>14617083
>It's objectively average to mediocre
THIS
though i'd place it on top tier medicre, it has good production values
thing is (((OP))) tryies to shit on it as if it was EA bad wich is not the case, it's a casual game cosplaying as hardcore but it's not like the hardcore crowd couldn't enjoy it as brainles time waster
not every meal you eat has to be a five star, i fancy a bigmac every now and then and GoW is exactly that
214c87 No.14617272
>>14617206
How is it slightly above average
It has good presentantion and basic as fuck tedious hack and slash gameplay that's even beaten by fucking Spartan Total Warrior which was released in the same year.
>>14617211
>can't blame the anon for his suspicion, this tread is full of shills, the timing is to perfect and it has all the hallmarks of kike damage control OP
Except everyone is talking about how GoW was always shit because normalfags and cuckchan retards actually think they were good, some even a masterpiece.
The new game is also a piece of shit that's being fellated by Sonyggers and normalfags.
>(((OP))) tryies to shit on it as if it was EA bad wich is not the case
What the fuck does that even mean?
778420 No.14617338
>>14617272
The camera work is legendary, there is endgame content in form of extra challenges, fighting feels responsive, impactful, chunky and overall satisfying.
It's a good game. Not a deep one.
cd3f17 No.14617418
>>14616693
>structurally and/or functionally similar to mammalian estrogens
Doesn't meat contain actual mammalian estrogens, considering we eat female animals all the time?
4a9997 No.14617419
>>14617272
>Spartan Total Warrior
I played that one
it was faster and had more enemies but i wouldn't call the fighting better
the Thermopila tactic of hiding behind the block button while you wait for small opening to chisel away at enemy HP and numbers whit fast weak attacks worked way to well whenever you were cornered
>everyone is talking about how GoW was always shit because normalfags and cuckchan retards actually think they were good
<hurrdurr these people i don't like like something so this something must be shit
>What the fuck does that even mean?
you know what i mean
all these faggots crying that old GoW was always as bad bubbsy 3d or superman 64 when we all know very well the game is a solid 7.5 or even an 8 maybe
was it casual as fuck?
sure
did it set up anoying trends that shat up the industry?
yup, it normalized QTEs just like survival horro games normalized tank controls
was it overhyped by $onyggers?
you bet your thumbs it was
was so completly irredimable that it was imposible to have agood time playing it?
absolutelly not
56ae76 No.14617446
e3c7f3 No.14617452
>>14617419
Where have all these posters that do one sentence per-line come from? This isn't a fucking chat room.
7b3d4c No.14617492
>>14617446
>marketers
>for not liking a basic game made for edgy dudebros
214c87 No.14617534
>>14617419
>but i wouldn't call the fighting better
Except it is and has better presentation and scale as well.
>people i don't like like something so this something must be shit
No, people I don't like are defending something that looks like absolute trash and a complete 180 degree change to what they used to like with SJW journo backing.
Nice strawman though
>you know what i mean
No I don't, EA in 2005 published good games despite kikery
>all these faggots crying that old GoW was always as bad bubbsy 3d or superman 64
No one is saying that, not even OP
>is a solid 7.5 or even an 8
You're not even pretending like this 5.5/10 mediocre game that only got attention due to Sony shilling wasn't one of your favorites.
Considering all the dudebro shit in it GoW was to the PS2 what Halo was to the Xbox but with less popularity and with even less quality.
>>14617452
From where else?
4a9997 No.14617624
>>14617534
>Except it is and has better presentation
pffff nigga get some eyedrops that game looked AA as far as presentation went and the combat was just as brain dead, only faster and without QTE, the fact that the whole game was mostly fighting without anything in between to break up the gameplay a little made it even more of a chore
>people I don't like are defending something that looks like absolute trash and a complete 180 degree change to what they used to like with SJW journo backing
>lul wot m8? i don't think you got wich GoW i was talking about in that post, there ain't nowhere in hell i'd deffend nu Kratos
but i did see a lot of edge lords and shill trying really hard to fit in by saying that old GoW is shit cus casuals and cuckchaners like it
>EA in 2005 published good games despite kikery
so did Ubisoft but now it's called ubishit and synonymous with generic skinner box sandbox
you know very well what i mean when i say EA bad
>No one is saying that, not even OP
read the fucking tread anon
>You're not even pretending like this 5.5/10 mediocre game that only got attention due to Sony shilling wasn't one of your favorites
I would have given it a 6 on mechanics and level desgin alone, the extra 1.5 point was thanks to polish and presentation, and my favourite has always been tomb raider, considering i got into GoW just for the ancient stone trap ridden temple i got exactly what i wanted out of the game
>GoW was to the PS2 what Halo was to the Xbox
popularity wise maybe
but the PS2 didn't have to relly on this one game to actually move units, in fact the game came fairly late in the console's lifespan and wasn't "the only damn thing to play" as it was the case with Xbox and Halo at least until Ninja Gaiden came out
>but with less quality
only walking sims can have less quality than an FPS
that whole genere is inherently inferior to everything else in the vidya industry
and Halo was utter shit without a single rediming quality even by FPS standards
214c87 No.14617638
>>14617624
> the fact that the whole game was mostly fighting without anything in between to break up the gameplay made it more of a chore
Stopped reading right there
e3c7f3 No.14617667
>>14617638
Should have stopped here:
>ID:4a997
4a9997 No.14617674
>>14617638
you see anon
God of War and similar games are kinda technical but not technical enough to carry a whole game with nothing but the battle mechanics
even remooving the QTEs
GoW still had climbing, obstacles to avoid, puzzles to solve and kept throwing new things at every corner
That Spartan game was just GoW fighting mechanic only faster in a much larger and emptyer map with more enemies
GoW shit tier combat didn't get old until end game cus the game was not entierly rellying on it to keep the player entretained
Spartan Total Warrior did, and that tipe of combat gets old very quickly if it's the only thing the game puts on the plate
e3c7f3 No.14617686
>>14617674
Stop hitting enter after every line you cuckchan faggot.
4a9997 No.14617702
>>14617686
stop making one sentence posts
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4a9997 No.14617713
214c87 No.14617717
>>14617674
>GoW still had climbing, obstacles to avoid
Those were even more boring than the combat itself.
>puzzles to solve
So did Spartan and both do a godawful job at it
>and kept throwing new things at every corner
The second fight with the Praetorian Prefect and the assault at the castle before it is better and more creative than everything GoW has ever put out
I'm going to stop replying because you're obviously delusional and new.
Both are average to mediocre games, one is simply fellated to hell and back because it's an exclusive, that's literally it.
Same with the new one, only now some normalfags are actually seeing what happens to a development studio and a brand after a decade.
There's no shilling here, just fags shitting on GoW as a whole because there are other fags pretending like GoW was good before this.
4a9997 No.14617802
>>14617717
>Those were even more boring than the combat itself
meh to each his own, i must have been a chimp in my past life cus i always like climbing and jumping no matter wich game it is
>So did Spartan and both do a godawful job at it
almost everyone at the time did a god awefull job at puzzles in action games
i was starving so much that even the meh stuff of god of war felt like an oasis in a desert
kinda like wich P5 wich came out during a vidya drought of Animu JRPGs and starved fanboys ate it up
turth be told i can't remeber when was the last time i had a good puzzle in an action game
>Both are average to mediocre games, one is simply fellated to hell and back because it's an exclusive
it got shilled to hell and back but it ain't just shilling that puts GoW slightly above the meh tier, the game is actually fun
>inb4 hurrdurr muh "fun" buzzword
if you can't feel fun why the hell do you play vidya?
>Same with the new one
nigga, the new one is bottom tier right along Telltale's games and Gone Homo, no PS2 game ever made it that low
>now some normalfags are actually seeing what happens to a development studio and a brand after a decade
i don't remeber there being so much decline from gen to gen in the NES>SEGA/SNES>N64/PS1>PS2/Gamecube era, even if there was a steady decline over time, it wasn't the catastrophic fall in quality that was the PS3/360>PS4/X1 era
Had you heard 10 years ago that GoW would be turned into a walking sim, would you have believed it?
214c87 No.14617889
>it wasn't the catastrophic fall in quality that was the PS3/360>PS4/X1 era
2007 saw a huge interest in technology and a new generation entered the industry, the internet and pop culture which was already happening with games like Halo and GTA.
That coupled with the financial crisis which made companies pump out garbage that was accepted by the new folk with no standarts made the shitpile that we see today and killed or hibernated many others that produced quality products including long time veterans.
It's a darn shame because 7th Gen started decently and was filled with untapped potential, we could have had another 6th Gen but instead we got full blown cancer.
8th Gen is undoubtedly better due to more variety in part due to market stabilization and in other digital distribution and more casual players flocking to mobile which got really popular in 2010, the hardware itself and the continuation of trends/monetization from 7th Gen is still goddamned cancerous though.
Consoles are weak shit and nowhere near the jump from 6th to 7th Gen, being sold at a profit from the get go unlike the 360/PS3 which were sold at a loss due to pretty good hardware.
It's why games barely look different from previous gens with maybe a little more detail.
The only good thing about them is ARM and X86 which make their games easily ported to the best platform.
Same with 3D acceleration cards which haven't seen a non iterative breakthrough in years due to Intel, AMD and Nvidia kikery.
Less with AMD, but still there.
7418ff No.14618414
>>14617211
>you clearly played it on easy m8
I don't know what to tell you my friend. I played the remastered version so I could take a picture of the trophy if you'd like. Was there a trophy for the different difficulties? I have my trophy notifications off because why would I care about them normally. As far as all the other shit goes, I really don't know what to tell you. Are there shills in this thread? I couldn't tell you but I'm not one, and I've also already explained why I made my thread so close to the release of the new one, even though you've conveniently glossed over that fact. I really have no idea how you and this other Anon have your heads so far up your asses that you think someone calling out an old "classic" for having glaring flaws is anywhere near equivalent to saying "GO BUY THE REBOOT RIGHT NOW! IT'S BAD BUT THE OLD ONE WAS TOO SO I'M TELLING YOU GO BUY IT!"
4a9997 No.14618539
>>14618414
>I really have no idea how you and this other Anon have your heads so far up your asses that you think someone calling out an old "classic" for having glaring flaws is anywhere near equivalent to saying "GO BUY THE REBOOT RIGHT NOW! IT'S BAD BUT THE OLD ONE WAS TOO SO I'M TELLING YOU GO BUY IT!"
the same damage control shilling tactic is being used in the last jedi, if you can't deffend the current one, shit on the old one. and it ain't the first time i've seen such tactic, especially from Sony, i remeber similar shit back when they were making Spiderman and Ghost Busters
there's also the insistance on the "hurrdurr press square to win" meme even though that wasn't the case with this game, as i said before it's a brainless hack n slash not a retarded one, enemies with shield at the start literally force you to hit them with triangle otherwise you wont damage them but you keep insisting on the "button mashing" meme and expecting people not to think you're a shill who hasn't even played the game
>Was there a trophy for the different difficulties?
PS2 games had no trophies, harder difficulties just gave you a harder game.
did you play this on a remastered PS3 version? or did you just outed yourself as a shill who didn't even play the game?
>Are there shills in this thread?
there are a lot of deleted comments and for what i can tell based on the replies they were deffending nu GoW using SJW lingo so you tell me if there are or are no shills in here
c5dd90 No.14618785
>>14615691
>if you don't like a generic popular action game you're this cuckchan meme
>>14616997
>not a single one the game parts is awfull on it's own
No, but they aren't really entertaining either. It's style over substance
30fd0b No.14618882
I played TLoU when it first came out and on the hardest setting it would let me out of the box.
It was ok but not nearly anywhere as amazing in gameplay as was promoted. The example i'll give was when I had an area that I had to stealth around a bunch of those fungus head guys that kill you instantly. Clickers I think they're called.
Anyway, so i'm all crouched trying to be really stealthy and the AI girl, Ellie, is running around all over the place. I'm thinking "Shit the stupid AI is going to blow it for me." But check it, I watched that stupid little girl, crouched down, run her head straight up the ass of one of those fungus zombies and it didn't notice her. Time and time again she did this and it didn't notice her.
It wasn't until my player character (Joel?) was detected that it would notice her. Or if my player character was stood up while still undetected then she would get detected.
Basically, to solve the problem of a fucking retarded and unehlpful AI they just made the AI characters fucking invisible when crouched so long as YOU weren't detected.
The game had all the combat depth of MGS1. It just looked prettier.
I guess this was supposed to be about God of War but the new one is like TLoU viking edition so whatever.
7418ff No.14619033
>>14618539
>or did you just outed yourself as a shill who didn't even play the game?
Yeah the other guy wanted to talk about me baiting but you really take the cake Anon. Congrats because I really should have caught on before now.
0cec4b No.14624596
03655a No.14625458
>>14614011
Just curious, but are you attempting to put down the original series in the hope that people wont find the new GOW as the pretentious walking sim it'll inevitably be?
it has aged somewhat poorly though
> feminism taking hold in society
> women want more jobs
> more games and media about men taking the mother's place in a family.
Really make's you think.
062f4f No.14625472
>>14614011
>So, I just beat this hunk of garbage. How in the world did this game get the kind of praise that it did?
It was a big hit amongst american juggalo kids back in the early 2000's.
085a34 No.14625567
>>14615062
>le epic nazbol xd
>>>/leftypol/ is the other way.
886f27 No.14629518
>>14625567
What even is nazbol?
be7551 No.14629625
>>14629529
I don't understand why they hate it. Yeah, it's mindless, but it's supposed to be. I had a good time with it.
4a9997 No.14629628
>>14619033
>hurr durr this game is shit but i still played it all the way through
>i legit played it, want me to show you my achivements from playing on hard?
>a PS2 game
>achivements
wew lad
c44a2e No.14631359
7418ff No.14631575
I've shifted from trying to understand the game's fandom among normalfags to trying to understand the egregious amount of shill calling in this thread. It seems like hardcore projection to me. Somehow someone trashing an overrated game is shilling but talking about your fandom of a series about to get a new release isn't. Especially suspicious is the shill calling in the first place. Why go out of your way for that if not to try and prove you aren't one yourself? There's no way that someone could actually have the thought process of "if you like a game, you're a shill, if you don't like a game, you're a shill too."
>>14629628
>did you play this on a remastered PS3 version?
You explained it yourself, shill
6b012d No.14631776
>>14631741
UNLEASH THE SOY
64d416 No.14631795
You can talk shit about the old GOW games till the cows come home and there's a lot of stuff i'd agree with but they're still actual action games with a pretty clear cut between gameplay and story. Game would start and you'd be put right into the action pretty quickly, sometimes immediately. You'd play the game, beat bosses, find secrets, unlock new shit, it was actually a game. Even at it's worst it's better than the stunts they're trying to pull with the new GOW game. Even sadder is how reviewers still think they're so wise and mature for liking a games story and padding out their reviews with babys first english class tier shit.
6b012d No.14631811
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>14631743
What a great allegory for the god of war franchise: Beaten and battered by soy.
1eab6b No.14631815
>>14631740
>>14631741
>>14631743
Are there difficulty settings? Cause this guy is brain dead and his health barely moves from all the punishment he's getting.
785a59 No.14631821
>>14614245
>Gears of War
>a good game
eab412 No.14631830
>>14631740
and this is why people liked it
it just looks cool
>>14631815
I'm willing to bet this is just a tutorial boss of sorts. Hard to tell since everything looks the same under all that snow.
1082ee No.14631834
>>14631741
Holy shit those effects and that fight look terrible. For all that journalists claim to fawn over "muh cinematics", GOW3 had presentation miles above this.
64d416 No.14631835
>>14631815
looks like damage is dictated by the cinematic sequences, even the old games you'd have to get the health down normally to activate the flashy QTE kills
0c5a2b No.14631836
>>14631740
>>14631741
>>14631743
>capeshit school of fighting of endless punching and launches with no consequence or payoffs
>both can punch rocks, throw boulders and jump dozens of feet in the air
>axe attacks cause blood to fly in the air but nothing actually touches the white snow
>"cinematic finisher" causes the character to fucking slide into position as its initiated
>fight ends with a limp necksnap instead of ripping his spine out of his body
1eab6b No.14631838
>>14631830
Someone posted the fight with the electric dragon guy and it was the same thing, he barely lost any health despite getting hit multiple times and fucking up shit to the point where the game had to tell him what to do.
64d416 No.14631847
>>14631834
>For all that journalists claim to fawn over "muh cinematics",
journos don't know anything about cinematic craft, otherwise they'd be reviewing movies, they also don't know anything about writing otherwise they'd be reviewing/discussing literature. The got their foot in the game medium because playing OOT as a kid is the only credentials it asked for and now that they're a bit older the feel threatened by the idea that they're adults reviewing games, they don't like the word "games" because it doesn't make them sound mature, they don't like things that remind them they're playing games because it makes them feel less mature. A large part of these gushing reviews is just the reviewers stroking their own cock thinking about how great it is to play a game and feel smart for it
4e610c No.14631848
Dumb, edgy, fun, similar to Warhammer 40k lore. A bunch of other idiots began praising it because it was a "deep story about the futility of revenge" which gave it move universal acclaim than something like Halo or Call of Duty.
eab412 No.14631849
>>14631838
huh
well the old GoW had difficulty settings, so there might be a really big chance the webm is in journalist mode. The tutorial pop ups late in the game might be in all of them though, since that's what modern games have been doing.
785a59 No.14631860
>>14615863
No, that's Evangelion.
2d636b No.14631891
>play 15 year old game
>WHY DOESN'T THIS GAME PLAY LIKE GAMES NOT BUILT FOR A 20 YEAR OLD PIECE OF HARDWARE
another case of /v/ discovering a popular game to hate on
952856 No.14631915
>>14631891
Well, dear NeoFAGgot "anon", maybe you'd like to point out some of the game's praiseworthy qualities?
785a59 No.14631929
>>14631891
There's plenty of 15 years and older games that are still loved and celebrated for being just fuckin' good. God of War is trash, and Dad of War is gonna be even worse.
1299dd No.14631942
>>14614011
GoW was always a Devil May Cry for casuals. normalfags ate the QTEs like the sheep they are and thought it was good.
6b012d No.14631948
>>14614011
>lets make a thread about a ps2 game that I don't like but for some reason completed.
cd280c No.14631991
Athena never died, she followed Kratos and is now manipulating the Norse gods to enact her revenge. The Blades come back too.
6b012d No.14632049
>>14631991
I'm doing my part.
4b5210 No.14632133
>>14632017
what are you so excited about? A rotten cherry on top of a shit sundae?
6b012d No.14632224
>>14632133
Did you forget about the boston salt party?
4b5210 No.14632327
>>14632224
no, but at least let's have something presentable, not just a shitty gif
4b5210 No.14632366
>>14632327
case in point:
part 1
4b5210 No.14632423
>>14632366
and by the way, I fucking called it: >>14631206
>you are the demons
>you can pretend to be a father
it could mean either she's just fucking with him or it could be true that he is not the father
4eda20 No.14632655
>>14631991
ATHENA WAS ALIVE ALL ALONG AND IS USING THE NORSE GODS TO KILL KRATOS
519bce No.14632690
>>14614011
As many stated before not THE ultimate game, but it was a nice game: stupid, gory, hard, fair and looked good enough in its time
The new GOW looks slow and very recycled but hey gotta milk that cow
The dude was designed to look as aggressive as it could, so any further accessories actually diminish the character
answering to bait, go play vidya instead fag
4eda20 No.14632752
4b5210 No.14632794
Go ahead if you want, but it's a bit late imo, footage was found on a public site, the same where "the stranger leak" footage came from:
http://whatifgaming.com/god-of-war-the-blades-of-chaos-cinematic
but I guess since it's still not been released yet, it's a possible neo-fag/resetera tear milking potential.
3c448a No.14632935
>>14614011
I bought and own a physical copy of every game in the series.
The game's fun and you really need to lay off the internet.
It came from a simpler time where you didn't have as many walkthroughs, guides and reviews everywhere.
Going in with expectations was your first mistake.
0c5a2b No.14632958
>>14632935
>It came from a simpler time
Nigger it was years after DMC1 and the same year as DMC 3.
4170b3 No.14632976
>>14632935
I'll agree, it's a good game for mindless fun, and a great introduction to the genre if you never played anything similar, because of this I then discover the devil may cry games.
7fca9c No.14632977
>>14632958
What's your point?
ea7a02 No.14632986
>>14632935
<Having standards was your first mistake.
Prove that this isn't more or less what you meant.
64d416 No.14632990
>>14632958
and they're both from a superior genre that publishers seem to actively want to kill
0c5a2b No.14632991
>>14632977
it didn't "come from a simpler time"
It was a shallow cinmatic QTE filled shitshow made for normalfags with more flash than substance.
In fact the model quality in it for a 2005 game was really awful.
3c448a No.14632996
>>14632958
>I like this game more because I probably played it first
>I'm somehow not biased
Anon, two games can be good even if one of them is better.
You should try GoW on the max difficulty, the difficulty is fine tuned for that.
I doubt any of you even bothered since it requires a second playthrough.
64d416 No.14633002
>>14632996
I remember the health pools for some enemies being fucking savage on the harder modes that could be a bit of a drag
7fca9c No.14633003
>>14632986
>implying you had any of nu-/v/'s contrarian standards circa 2005, much less old enough to play gow
>>14632991
I can almost feel the bitter /v/irgin rage coming from this post.
21dcc2 No.14633004
The only objectively good thing about it is that it is actually structured like a Greek tragedy. The following games weren't, but the first one was because they didn't expect sequels, I guess. Combat is pretty simple in general in this game, I had to look for different combos to do because the square square triangle bullshit is objectively the best, and for some reason the first magic you get is also probably the best spell in the game. The setpieces and design are pretty good.
0c5a2b No.14633010
>>14632996
>You should try GoW on the max difficulty, the difficulty is fine tuned for that
No it fucking isn't. All it does is boost damage values, health pools and speeds up the QTE prompts.
Enemies don't get new movesets, no increase in enemy count, no remixed levels or enemy placement.
It makes an already tedious slog even more tedious.
e4e270 No.14633017
>>14614011
The older games had their moments. I enjoyed 1 + 2.
0c5a2b No.14633025
>>14633003
Great job not even trying to defend your normalfag trashfire of a game where you can't even skip cutscenes first time around.
4170b3 No.14633027
>>14633002
Yeah, it really best at harder diffuclties, I think I enjoy the second one best, although, 3 was going in the right direction with faster weapon switching.
>>14633004
I agree the bit about the first story structure, and the story of all other games being garbage, and even inconsistent on the spinoffs. And yes, gameplay, was a bit too simplistic, and doesn't encourage variety, but I try to be somewhat stylish.
4170b3 No.14633041
>>14633010
I'd say the built it with that difficulty in mind, and didn't bother to adjust it for lower difficulties.
7fca9c No.14633050
>>14633025
Thanks.
>inb4 you deliberately misinterpret my posts as me defending Nu-Goy of Soy to make yourself seem justified in being a cynical asshole
21dcc2 No.14633059
>>14633025
>where you can't even skip cutscenes first time around.
Okay, I'm pretty ludologist, but who the fuck actually does this?
4b5210 No.14633071
>>14633010
So how does the original compare to the remake on PS3?
0c5a2b No.14633075
>>14633050
Goy of Soy is exactly what this franchise deserves after capitulating to the Xplay cokehead whining about misogyny.
I wouldn't care about this awful excuse of a beat em up existing if the developers behind it had half a spine but they clearly don't.
>>14633059
>I'm pretty ludologist
Thats a fancy word for being a faggot
0c5a2b No.14633081
>>14633071
What remake? Unless you mean the HD "remaster" in which case its the same game with a widescreen hack and some texture replacement.
The bad models are even more apparent without the PS2 interlacing artifacts to hide them.
64d416 No.14633086
>>14633075
>capitulating to the Xplay cokehead whining about misogyny.
I forgot about that shit, they even put a patch in softening one of the sections considered more difficult because casuals ruin even fairly casual games
ea7a02 No.14633087
>>14633003
So you can't? I'm not surprised. Even at that age, I could recognize DMC as the superior series.
I was serious BTW. Could you prove that you didn't really meant "don't come in with standards and game will be good" because expectations are based on standards?
7fca9c No.14633088
>>14633075
>games deserve to be bastardized if i don't like them
4170b3 No.14633090
>>14633086
Wait what happened?
7fca9c No.14633094
>>14633087
>Even at that age, I could recognize DMC as the superior series.
Bull shit, you pretentious dickhead.
64d416 No.14633101
>>14633090
sessler went on a huge rant about how he disliked that one of the trophies was called "bros before hoes" in regards to a scene where Kratos stomps the shit out of some lady boss to save a guy, so they changed it to 'bros before foes". There was a Trials of Somethingorother sections where you hadto fight through 3-5 stages of increasingly difficult enemy waves with no checkpoint and IIRC they gave it a checkpoint and toned the whole thing down. I'm pretty sure i pulled the plug on my ps3s internet at the time so i could play it pure and it wasn't that tough if you actually used the tools the game gave you
0c5a2b No.14633110
>>14633081
See pic related for a comparison. I am assuming the god of war 2 screenshot is from an emulator because I don't remember it looking that clear.
>>14633094
>projecting your awful shit taste on others
People like you are going to buy God of Soy, they are going to eat it right up and then a few years later they'll be here defending their piece of shit cinematic shitshow because video games would have fallen even further.
4170b3 No.14633113
>>14633094
Dude DMC crazy combos and the change in difficulty and challenge stick out, I played Gow first and DMC after, and DMC is just better dude, even my teenaged self could tell, despite the lovely tits in the Gow.
acd2c7 No.14633127
>>14632717
Holy shit!
Is that the guy who voices Gobber in HTTYD?
ea7a02 No.14633133
>>14633090
Adam Sessler complains about GoW3 misogynistic achievement. That reminds me. Why did the journo fags latched on to DmC: Devil May Cry?
>>14633094
QTE boss battles always looked gay but that is besides the point. My point is how is "don't go in with expectations" from "don't have standards" or "just turn off your brain".
4170b3 No.14633140
>>14633101
Oh yeah I remeber, that game was a huge pile of shit, remembered they fucked up a lot of it, they screwed up the guards and counters and took the alziest option when confronted with the "all sub weapons are chained blades" criticism was just to have the same weapon with slightly different combos and different elements. I barely remeber playing it, I had to replay it because I really don't remembered playing my first time, I only remembered after finishing.
7fca9c No.14633143
>>14633110
Thanks for proving me right in my post here >>14633050 (You)
>>14633113
I'm pretty sure you're just parroting what other anons said and framing it with being what your "teenaged self" totally thought back then, because that's really believable anon, congrats. You were truly the wokest anon back then and didn't even knew it.
4b5210 No.14633150
>>14631740
>>14631741
>>14631743
I told you revitalizing this thread wouldn't do any good.
64d416 No.14633151
>>14633133
>Why did the journo fags latched on to DmC: Devil May Cry?
to attempt to be contrarian once they saw fan backlash at the changes. Never forget these people don't like video games much to start and the particularly don't like THOSE DAMN DIRTY GAMERS . Original DMC games are also pretty anime and anything japan related is target for these urchins because they can still pull the "why is japan so gross and weird" card despite it being wildly hypocritical of them.
0c5a2b No.14633152
>>14633141
>Thanks for proving me right in my post here
Except my post had nothing to do with that
Maybe next time actually read what you are replying to instead of going into your defensive persecution complex.
DMC 1 was released in 2001 and was a massive commercial success. If you really think nobody played it and people are just "parroting what other anons said" despite it being complete truth when they call God of War a bad game then you are fucking delusional.
4170b3 No.14633159
>>14633143
It's not, I played DMC 3 first and agni and rudra with rebellion were the shit, and infinitively better than all the weapons in gow, that alone makes DMC stand well above gow.
>>14633133
>Adam Sessler complains about GoW3 misogynistic achievement. That reminds me. Why did the journo fags latched on to DmC: Devil May Cry?
No clue, I remember the dude calling Dante a fag and shit, probably he had connections or some shit, no clue otherwise.
4170b3 No.14633163
>>14633159
>I played DMC 3 first
I meant to say DMC 3 was my first DMC game, but I played Gow before that
21dcc2 No.14633221
>>14633075
>Thats a fancy word for being a faggot
It's a fancy word for "I don't think story is a good 'reward' for gameplay in games." Educate yourself, nigger.
ea7a02 No.14633226
>>14633151
>Original DMC games are also pretty anime and anything japan related is target for these urchins because they can still pull the "why is japan so gross and weird" card despite it being wildly hypocritical of them.
Yeah, funny enough a lot of journo fags are always talking about diversity but are also the "lol Japanese games suck!" crowd. People in /v/ are also like that too.
496699 No.14633241
>>14633226
>Implying we don't have a fuckload of weebs here.
4b5210 No.14633647
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>14633075
>>14633086
>>14633090
>>14633101
>>14633133
And to think reviewers used to be excited about "a menage a troi on a bus"
3d0f1c No.14633801
>>14633133
>My point is how is "don't go in with expectations" any different from "don't have standards" or "just turn off your brain".
Typo
4a9997 No.14633820
>>14633133
>Why did the journo fags latched on to DmC
suporting Ninja Theory was part of the (((narrative>mechanics))) agenda pushing
it insulted a Nip IP known for chalenge & fun
it shilled Ninja Theory who would go on to keep producing mediocre non game poz and and it was another push into the "videogames are art" meme just becos the game had pretentious 3deep5u story written by emo hippsters
3d0f1c No.14633842
>>14633820
That was actually a pretty good answer.
045ed8 No.14634202
>>14633150
sorry
make a new schadenfraude gow4 bread then
502ed5 No.14635167
>>14614011
It was relatively shallow but still good gory fun with excellent graphics for the time and some really neat set pieces and visual design. It never really made a pretense of being anything other than "murder your way through Greek mythology by mashing the attack button" and on that level it was a total success.
1e5250 No.14635409
The gameplay is the new one is surprisingly souls-like, though with the usual QTEs when you execute bosses.
It even has the same R1/R2 to attacks, L1 to block, circle to roll scheme.
I honestly rather liked it.
8cb531 No.14635463
>>14635409
4chan is down, I see
4170b3 No.14635472
>>14635409
>soundless webm
>In the same thread where there are ones with sound
>Absolute shit taste
Thanks for reminding me how much shit 4cuck is.
1f4563 No.14635853
>>14614172
or maybe your taste is the shit one you faggets
thats the funny thing about opinions
a060be No.14635865
>>14635409
What the absolute fuck am I watching? People think this looks fun?
60b7ee No.14635867
>>14635409
its the dark souls of god of war
3e37ee No.14635870
>>14635463
Too bad those fuckers don't know what
LURK MORE
means.
>>14635409
Of course the cuckchanner has a soundless webm and shit opions. Fuck off.
dbb097 No.14635872
>>14635409
haha sonytards say the darnest things.
e40467 No.14635876
>>14616693
>doughnuts
what?
1f4563 No.14635893
>>14635865
yep…you should know if you didnt drink soo much soy
357d78 No.14635903
>>14616693
>Doughnuts somehow are more 'soy' than soy veggie burger and soy sauce.
e6042f No.14636231
>>14635903
Got a problem with that, Tubby?
bb49fc No.14636239
>>14636107
RoTJ and onwards are all bad tbh
e6042f No.14636248
>>14635463
I just saw on the homepage one of the top threads on /pol/ is a "4cuck Refugee" thread. Amazing how all times of day on that place they will talk about how much worse it is here but when they have no other option they come here to shit up the boards with their taint.
4f396b No.14636250
>>14616693
>Miso soup in the list
Fuck, I was hoping to use that for breakfast food prep. What's a good breakfast setup that's healthy then? I remember seeing a chart that compared different breakfasts among countries.
437693 No.14636266
>>14635409
>souls-like
>no stamina management
>low mobility
>throwing axe
I hate to break it to you, but attacking with the R buttons and blocking with an L button doesn't make a game Souls-like, just like moving with WASD and using mouse look doesn't make World of Warcraft TES-like.
c0eccd No.14636274
>>14636248
4chan pilgrim here, honestly I don't see much of a difference between the two besides traffic volume and 8chan not being run by a psychopathic gookmoot. Also this one has a /canada/ board for some insane reason. Still, interesting to see how you all live I guess? >>14633647
Generally this, the gameplay seems decent but the politics and atmosphere surrounding the game seem to have completely sucked the soul out of it.
bb49fc No.14636277
>>14636250
It's fine, it's fermented and has no effect unless you overconsume it like a tard. And if you do, you'll die of salt poisoning instead.
a3d478 No.14636311
I'm not buying the new god of war. The reason is that it plays like a movie and I will treat it like a movie and watch it on stream.
5c28d1 No.14636339
>>14636274
>4chan pilgrim here
>the gameplay seems decent
I believe you.
c0eccd No.14636361
>>14636339
Oh come off it, the game itself looks shit and will probably play like a movie more than a game, but the core elements of actual combat look solid enough. You can say' hey this game looks like it'll have good x' while also saying 'the game looks like shit and I won't be buying it', christ man.
0a8011 No.14636382
>>14636361
>But the core elements of actual combat look solid enough.
Yeah dude combat that's just attack without any fear of being penalised for being shit.
>You can say' hey this game looks like it'll have good x' while also saying 'the game looks like shit and I won't be buying it'
But this game doesn't you absolute shit eating retard.
Do us all a favor and go back.
4170b3 No.14636385
>>14635409
>the core elemnts
What would that be?
Smashing the R buttoms to attack and the L1 bottom to defend without any concern for stamina management and incredibly restricted movement and?
b5d586 No.14636387
>>14636274
Get the fuck out
8cb531 No.14636393
>>14635865
>lurk more
Do you expect person who can't even read the thread to lurk?
>>14635409
>this rapefuge getting all those (you)s even though I uploaded the whole fight with the stranger and with sound too
double nigger
778420 No.14636405
>>14636385
Smash that R button
ca225f No.14636430
You can't stop the soy revolution you bigots
Shitposting aside it got popular for the pretty much same reasons Gears of War did
90e8e4 No.14636441
>>14636430
The only reason anyone cared about Gears was because of the multiplayer. Does this even have multiplayer?
0a8011 No.14636445
>>14636441
PvP, who can drink enough soy that they let their wife have a bull first.
815748 No.14636491
>>14615740
>We're getting to see GoW turn to utter shit but we're never getting a new Ninja Gaiden
End this.
4f396b No.14636504
>>14636277
How much would constitute as overconsumption? I saw one example as a small bowl.
4170b3 No.14636546
>>14636504
I can only tell you the level of consumption of your averague so boy, that is, every meal you consume must have at least 3 soy based products, including beverages.
f436b4 No.14636623
>>14617418
>Doesn't meat contain actual mammalian estrogens
even the most hormone rich 'hormone meat' has very little estrogen, soy has so much it's recommended for menopausal women
b9b7b0 No.14636632
>>14616704
Anon why is it fun to press the tryingle for larger mobs? Square for small ones and stuns for cyclops? You're just describing a match the color game ffs
b9b7b0 No.14636634
>>14636632
Sorry for the punctuation, im retarded
778420 No.14636656
>>14636632
Those tiny pauses you get when you hit multiple enemies in succession, the slow down during your final triangle combo windup and resulting explosion, the satisfaction of figuring out cyclopses instead of being raped repeatedly.
Try it out, it's fun, should be playable on any semi modern rig via PCSX2.
b9b7b0 No.14636678
>>14636656
I played it man, i used to like it. My main critic to the game is this, the point of the game is to overpower gods, which should be really difficult to do right? Well guess how you do that? through qts! the main point of the game is achieved through the most stupid gaming mechanic ever imposed on us.
b9b7b0 No.14636683
90e8e4 No.14636690
>>14636491
After 3 and whatever the name of that WiiU game oatmeal cookie worked on I can't seem to remember the name of I think that'd be a blessing in disguise.
oh wait we could always just get a Yaiba 2 never mind
f818ce No.14636758
old god of war was never good, and i bought it at launch back in the day. beat it, the hardest part of the game was the ending obstacle course with bad hit detection.
nu god of war is a shitty QTE event that looks like skyrim with uncharted/assassins creed tier combat.
i dont know why anyone in this thread would defend the first god of war, it usually gets (deserved) hate here. this thread didnt have to exist, /v/s opinion on this game has been fairly open and shouldnt be shocking to OP.
778420 No.14636775
>>14636678
critique*
I think you're missing the forest for the trees here, anon.
You still have to do a whole fight before killing any god. Hell, you had to fight Ares once with the stone sword and then with blades of Athena. And it was an unforgiving fight too.
QTEs suck when you go overboard with them and stick them in places where a player would prefer to do the fighting himself instead of half-watching a cinematic while looking for button prompts. I like to think of them as tabasco sauce: some people can't stand it, some can't eat anything without it, but most just pop a couple of drops in their meal and enjoy it. Sure sometimes you run into a couple of drops that overpower your meal's flavor, but it can be overlooked.
22eb13 No.14636785
>>14636775
>steak with spaghetti
that's a weird combo
778420 No.14636802
>>14636785
break your spaghet sticks in half / thirds / quarters before cooking, you won't need to fuss about with a spoon
If that's not up your alley, replace spaghetti with macaroni of your choosing (I like these little swirly ones)
f818ce No.14636854
>>14636802
>spoon
its not that hard to eat spaghetti…
>elbow macaroni
if youre going that route; rotini is where its at. and that sauce in the steak pic looks like someone just crushed a can of hunts tomatoes into a pot of cooked pasta.
steak and pasta mixed is still a strange combo
4a9997 No.14636903
>>14636274
>4chan pilgrim
>the gameplay seems decent
i'm a post exodus fag, never been to 4chan, always heard they were plebs with shit taste…
i thought it was just a meme
778420 No.14636923
>>14636854
>not that hard to eat spaghetti
It's not, but that's how us uncultured yuropoors do it to not make the annoying scraping sound and avoid splattering sauce all over the place.
Rotini's good for sauce intense dishes and salads.
f818ce No.14636945
>>14636923
fuck. im hungry.
im debating between pizza or """chinese""" food. normally i go with pizza but i had it very recently…
778420 No.14636971
>>14636945
>watching RLM
>this music comes up
cheap ass hack frauds
Make a mixed salad out of lettuce, corn, yellow and/or red bell peppers, spinach, cucumbers and (cherry) tomatoes. If you have fried chicken breast lying around, cut that shit into pinkie thick slices and toss in. For sauce, take a table spoon of mayo, table spoon of sour cream, toss in salt, pepper and red paprika. Shake it up and enjoy.
4a9997 No.14636980
>>14636678
the QTEs to finish off bosses felt like rewards actually, Ares was a fucking hard fight so it felt rewarding to see him getting staved in the face with a giant sword right after a killer one liner, it felt like thos moments in MGS 3 & 4 when you are forsed to pull the trigger to finish The Boss or when you have to button mash in the microwave corridor
God of War's problem is that these momens came way to often, every boss and though enemie had a QTE, they would have been less dull if aside from punishing you for failing them they had some kind of score or xp reward for pulling them succesfully hitting the buton with the right timing, like in Legend of Dragoon or Shadow Hearts
2849e3 No.14636989
>>14636945
>chinese food
I always thought that was slightly oxymoronic, chinese will eat fucking anything. fuck I love buffalo sauce
f818ce No.14636995
>>14636971
nah. im gonna get pizza with anchovies and mushrooms. probably a a garden salad with grilled chicken and ceasar or blue cheese dressing….
f818ce No.14637013
>>14636989
thats why i put the quotes around """chinese""".
if i got chinese i'd just get sliced pork and mixed vegetables… maybe an egg roll and/or one of their gelatinous soups.
778420 No.14637043
>>14637013
spicy gelatinous soups kick ass
9c11d1 No.14637066
>>14636854
>if youre going that route; rotini is where its at
I prefer orzo. I make a meat sauce with cube steak or ground Italian sausage meat, then add it to orzo. Shit's fast, easy to make, and tastes great if you use a flavorful meat.
Also, this is probably the best derailment of a thread I've ever seen. We need more /ck/ derails.
f818ce No.14637083
>>14637043
its like they add a shit ton of corn starch or thickeners to it… i wonder what it would be like without all that.
>>14637066
orzos arent bad, i usually like them mixed in a carbonara type thing.. like peppers/raab/sausage. but honestly if im going THAT route… id just eat rice.
f818ce No.14637088
>>14637066
>derail
atleast i tried to sage my food posts… so dont blame me
havnt had a reason to post this pic in a while.
8cb531 No.14637100
>>14637088
it's not like shills care
9c11d1 No.14637116
>>14637083
I don't like rice except for fried rice or plain rice served with curry. For any other occasion, I'd prefer a pasta.
>>14637088
God of Soy isn't a topic worth discussing, so you've done this thread a service by steering it into flavor country.
778420 No.14637135
>>14637066
we kinda ran out of material to post about god of soy, the one steady source of bad gameplay and spoiler videos has been DMCAd, even if the author says he did it on his. I don't believe him for a moment.
49e3d3 No.14637142
>>14614011
I like this game series, AMA
8cb531 No.14637167
>>14637135
I downloaded only the gameplay video to fix some cuck webms, was there anything interesting in those other videos?
e718d5 No.14637199
>>14637142
I also like 1-3 but wouldn't dream of buying nu-God of War. It's a textbook definition of the modern gaming pozz.
778420 No.14637202
>>14637167
I got the Blades reveal video and I guess you (or whoever that well meaning anon was in the other thread) got the Stranger fight. These are all dated April 9th and removal was announced today. The two clips I mentioned are gone, but I don't know how many there were to begin with.
>>14637199
PSP titles are pretty good too.
49e3d3 No.14637217
>>14637199
I found a bug in the first game that allowed you to do a thousand hit combo, it was before the time of youtube
90e8e4 No.14637227
>>14637217
Youtube is 3 months older than God of War.
49e3d3 No.14637247
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14637227
I meant before finding it on youtube
8cb531 No.14637250
>>14637202
It's me, yes, just my ISP uses dynamic IP and whenever I lose connection, I get a new ID. Before the stranger fight there was some run of the mill exploring and fighting throwing an axe at a giant, but who cares about that? From thumbnails I see that only stranger fight and chaos blades are important to the plot at all.
>>14637217
neat
90e8e4 No.14637278
>>14637250
I really hate these overly minimal UIs. All the text looks placeholder.
49e3d3 No.14637299
>>14637250
Post the picture with the soy consumable
778420 No.14637303
>>14637299
I only have my edits
778420 No.14637351
The more of these I'm watching, the more I want to kill the kid and whoever thought ANY of this was a good idea for a God of War game.
8cb531 No.14637380
>>14637351
was there anything good besides KRATOS SMASH in that video?
39c5d1 No.14637396
>>14616599
You don't know about sentient soy?
778420 No.14637402
>>14637380
The hipster fight?
Bad dialogue (which is to say Kratos' lines are fine, but everyone else sounds like they came from a slightly edgy 90's family comedy),
shaky cam,
Kratos talking directly into the camera (it can't have been Uterus getting out of the house because the hipster would've seen him and kept asking Kratos what he was protecting in his house),
the fact that there was more cutscenes than actual gameplay with a 3-7 ratio
8cb531 No.14637425
>>14637402
I meant chaos blades one. Also, shit before the lanklet spawned was even worse, his son is a faggot.
nice to see journigger hasn't stopped fighting giants as if it was a TPS
778420 No.14637452
>>14637425
oh sure, I called the "You are the demons, John" line and it just might be true that Kratos is not the boys father, although it's probably just Athena taunting him. Since Kratos is now moving slower, they decided to compensate for it by making chains SHORTER, so now instead of running around slashing shit in a restraining order wide area at 60 frames per second you slowly jog at silky smooth cinematic 25fps and whip some level 1 dudes at double arm length.
24daff No.14637498
>>14637452
>>14637402
>throws axe over and over donte style
>boss does same swipe pause move over and over
some of the worse "gameplay" & bossfights i've ever seen
8cb531 No.14637517
>>14637452
Now that there's a thread about GoW again that sadly won't sink, I'm wondering if I should repost stranger fight again or if I should add fight with a giant with his son being a faggot (I have a feeling it's out there somewhere on youtube).
>god-of-war-the-stranger-fight-whatifgaming-exclusive-aka-real.mp4
>>14637498
>donte style
Was DmC a third person shooter too?
0a8011 No.14637527
>>14637517
DmC also had a disgustedly strong axe with a easy to spam projectile.
778420 No.14637547
>>14637517
>should I repost
go ahead
>fight with giant
other than this one? >>14637452
8cb531 No.14637567
>>14637547
>other than this one?
Anon, I…
Have you noticed how half-assed this kid is in fights? Everything ignors him and he's just free damage on demand.
778420 No.14637578
>>14637567
fuck, I meant this one >>14637402
Yeah, the kid is invincible during "gameplay" and all he does is chip away at the enemies and occasionally procing some status effect.
Is this the same model but with orange decals instead of teal?
5c28d1 No.14637600
To think that this video from 2011, would turn out to be right.
8cb531 No.14637604
>>14637578
>Is this the same model but with orange decals instead of teal?
of course not, anon, it has a different animation at the end :^)
2aa88f No.14639733
>>14616693
>Flaxseed has 3x the phytoestrogens as soy
I've been eating a cup of flax as a snack for years. Have I been turning myself into a girl this whole time?
d9f786 No.14639903
>>14635876
Doughnuts are typically made with the cheapest generic vegetable oil you can buy (which happens to be soybean oil) and since doughnuts take a shitload of oil to make, they use the cheapest, since healthy customers do not increase their profit in any substantial way.
d9f786 No.14639913
>>14639903
This goes for chain doughnut stores and independent bakeries unless they explicitly tell you they don't. Any sort of big pastry will be made with vegetable oil to make it last longer on store shelves.
dda6bd No.14640759
I liked the environments and atmosphere. Pretty much everything else was shit though.