5f9a64 No.14611404
Full TOB roster reveal:
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/thrones-rosters-reveal
Yeah, I think I'm gonna stick with Northumbria, axemen and spearmen are a winning combination.
And is it me or they actually drop the whole War-child UK thing? I no longer see that shit on the Steamstore.
fff94a No.14611605
Every Total War post Medieval 2 is shit.
433e93 No.14611801
>>14611605
t. man who doesn't play med2 anymore
deb448 No.14611806
6ccd3a No.14611866
>>14611605
>Every Total War post Medieval 1 is shit.
FTFY
4e2fac No.14611885
fff94a No.14611985
>>14611866
>every video game is shit
You're welcome.
e4b637 No.14620404
>>14611605
>>14611866
Warhammer is fine and anyone bitching about the engine clearly hasn't played it.
624045 No.14620432
>>14620404
>Warhammer is fine.
<Makes stack of one unit.
e4b637 No.14620452
>>14620432
At least you're not making uninformed assertions about cavalry charges. I'll wait for it though.
1f65d1 No.14620454
>>14620404
Melee combat was objectively better on the old engine.
also anyone who says anything good about cuck assembly post-rome 2 is a pathetic bootlicking moron. You deserve it when CA spits in your face with day one DLC
5c6078 No.14620457
>>14620452
>I'm mentally ill
>Please conform to my delusions
823c74 No.14620466
>>14611605
>newer games need Adobe fucking Flash for the loading screens
dabaa3 No.14620468
Britannia is gonna be shit. They removed basically all campaign features like religion/culture/agents for no apparent reason. Also the combat as it was in Attila is still not really any different so expect to see a lot of blobbing…again.
3bec72 No.14620469
>>14611605
MTW is better than M2TW.
MTW has a great atmosphere and soundtrack. M2 looks like its graphics are smeared with vaseline.
dabaa3 No.14620475
Judging by the roster it's basically a reskin of Age of Charlemagne. GG CA.
27eaf6 No.14620492
>>14620454
>You deserve it when CA spits in your face with day one DLC
What are you talking? Arent all their games and DLCs free?
d461a5 No.14620506
>CA shill is back
Then again, it might not be him this time considering he's not sperging out with 50+ replies in the thread.
dabaa3 No.14620510
>>14620506
>YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT TOTAL WAR
>Meanwhile OW, Fortnite, FC5 threads are totally fine
1f65d1 No.14620513
fff94a No.14620738
>>14620404
Anyone who thinks warhammer is fine is clearly too underage to remember when CA didn't lock their extra factions behind paywalls.
12668e No.14620945
This. Nu total war recruitment and settlement mechanics are shit. I want to be able to recruit units at barracks and garrison the settlement with them, and not have some gay "auto-garrison" shit or "no dividing armies"
5f9a64 No.14620965
>>14620945
Meh, it could be cool to see an organic warband growing. Wait and see.
d67d15 No.14621022
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433e93 No.14621457
>>14621022
this is it. we are now so triggered by videogames that we complain about fucking calenders
dabaa3 No.14621528
>>14621457
Idiots have always been buttblasted by modern TW. At this point /v/ should be happy to have any posts at all.
dabaa3 No.14621586
>>14621575
Name a studio that makes TW-like games with no shitskins or women.
341331 No.14621602
Which is the best Total War game?
d67d15 No.14621627
>>14621602
Anything before they became cuckold poz lovers
3ea969 No.14621633
>>14620510
>>14620510
Sure, let's just ignore the fact that every OP for TW threads has been hyping up the new release.
>>14621602
Medieval 2, hands down.
dedcab No.14621636
>>14611985
>our timeline is shit*
FTFY
d461a5 No.14621819
>>14621633
I wish CA weren't completely leftist subhumans and would release the source code for Medieval 2 so the community could make actually worthwhile games.
1f65d1 No.14621918
>>14621457
Shoo shoo brainlet
dabaa3 No.14622358
>>14621633
And the threads I mentioned haven't? Don't be a hypocrite.
5f9a64 No.14622538
>>14621633
So it is okay if I create thread about TWW1 or something?
Inb4 no u
5f9a64 No.14622582
>>14621022
Nazis used BCE too, cunt.
21fb1d No.14622589
Are Chaos Dwarfs confirmed for TWW3 yet?
4e2ce0 No.14622603
Go back to your general faggots
>Other games have threads
Shouldn't have shit up the board prior and forced someone to make a general. Generals are cancer for every imageboard no matter what you faggots say. But since you aren't willing to adhere to rules and such get back to your cancerous general faggots.
3ea969 No.14622647
>>14622358
>This thread is blatant shilling
>OH WELL WHAT ABOUT THESE OTHER SHILL THREADS HMMMMM?
Did I say they were okay? Make a coherent argument or fuck off.
>>14622538
Since everyone who cares has pirated it at this point there is no reason to give a shit. No, whatever your retarded ass may have thought of is not a good reason.
74ce0e No.14622836
BoTET is really good. Skeletons are actually useful compared to warhammer total war where they can't even be used as chaff.
2221c0 No.14623012
89a00d No.14623730
>>14622647
>Did I say they were okay? Make a coherent argument or fuck off.
I don't see you niggers railing against those threads. In fact, we did have OW Generals. Yet every goddamn time somebody makes a TW thread it immediately gets shit on by MUH ROME OOOOONE/MUH SHILLS autists like you.
22ad1f No.14623818
>Watching a Napoleon documentary
>Get urge to re-install Napoopan but know I'll get bored within 2 battles
I'm devoid of happiness and fun.
Why did they remove fire by rank in Napoleon? I have to stretch the units so far it looks funny.
a3a891 No.14624245
>>14611866
t. nostalgiafag
5f9a64 No.14624558
>>14623736
It's fucking $3.
>>14623818
Play Fall of the Samurai then.
4c99a8 No.14625350
>we will never get medieval 3
>we will never have the feeling of fighting the world while we constantly improve our tech through buildings even till the last turns while we discover gunpowder
>we will never be free of the highly popular "unlock best troops 30 turns in" scourge that plagues warhammer
I will have to fight doomstacks of shitty peasants all the way to the end of time it seems.
4c99a8 No.14625354
>>14624558
>It's fucking 3$
You're a filthy faggot
f6df7d No.14625380
>>14623818
Napoleon was actually more historically accurate. Fire by rank didn't come about until after Napoleon.
The tech in empire total war actually stretched into 1850 and beyond
4c99a8 No.14625466
>>14625435
>tfw I pirated every single total war game except for the newest games out of respect for the old games
They can have their money for all the good that the old games have given me. But after this I'm not buying their jewish shit.
d67d15 No.14625515
>>14622582
Get back in the oven shlomo
b141a2 No.14626190
>>14625380
Napoleon and Empire are both shit.
f56816 No.14626517
>>14621586
>well since nobody else is shitting on my plate, I guess I'll just eat this shit
89a00d No.14626562
>>14625350
That's not at all how modern TW works but okay, believe what makes you happy friendo
a3453e No.14631186
>>14626190
Best games in the series fampai.
5f9a64 No.14635888
>>14631186
No, they lack diversity compared to sword and board TW.
e10b80 No.14636511
>>14626517
Not an argument.
e4b637 No.14640930
5f9a64 No.14640936
>>14640930
As in unit and equipment.
c84a9a No.14641029
>>14623012
Beginning of the end time, which is the warhammer mod for medieval 2.
e4b637 No.14641040
5f9a64 No.14642578
>>14641029
I thought that was Call of Warhammer?
679552 No.14646142
>>14642578
Call of Warhammer sucks tbh fam.
67cf90 No.14646229
>>14622836
i dont think you understand what chaff is cause it sure as hell isn't a unit you would consider anything other than a temporary distraction
b444fb No.14649168
Atilla was the last good Total War.
8d1569 No.14649598
>>14611605
You're not wrong
2bb503 No.14650334
>>14621575
>>14621022
Putting you guys wise to this was easily the best thing I've ever done. I'm so glad you retards finally came to your senses.
I truly hope that CA goes the way of Bioware.
5f9a64 No.14651096
>>14650334
CA is located in one of the more rural parts of England though.
Have hopes.
c72024 No.14654060
>>14611866
Medieval 1 aged like milk fam.
fe4920 No.14654094
>>14651096
It's in england, it's fucked.
aae3d5 No.14654235
>>14654060
I don't think it even runs on modern hardware without some workarounds.
341331 No.14654264
>>14621575
>>14621022
I point this out alot but it bears repeating, dev studios are just shells, you should never get attached to one for too long. The turnover rate in game development is obscenely high, a mere year or two is all it takes for the studio to lose most of the people who were integral to the greatness of their previous titles. The Blizzard that shat out Diablo 3 is absolutely nothing like the Blizzard that created Diablo 2 for example. Its the devs that ensure the quality of the game, not the brand name.
209268 No.14654278
I refused to buy another Total War game after the shitshow that was Rome 2
872e33 No.14655537
>>14646229
That's my point anon.
Skeletons can't even be used as chaff in warhamer. They cost too much, and they're not able to drain better units' fatigue by forcing them to fight them. Because of the skelemoral mechanics, you can't throw them into hopeless situations to create a situation because they'll just crumble anyway. They're incapable of serving their purpose as chaff.
5f9a64 No.14656426
>>14654264
>>14654278
The guy behind this particular game is Jack Lust, an actual modder turns into CA developer though.
He's no diversity hire.
872e33 No.14656508
I keep getting stuck in the area of power of neutral towns.
e4b637 No.14662210
>>14656426
>He's no diversity hire.
Sure he isn't.
226739 No.14662258
90% of any TW game's budget goes to marketing
70% of the marketing budget for Thrones of Buttania went to Dysgenic Jack's suit
6e2307 No.14662301
>>14662210
I swear you fucking niggers are never satisfied. What's the difference between you and the average libtard again?
8a7e6e No.14664710
>>14611404
>no population at all anymore, not even that population surplus mechanic
>minor settlements have a single building chain for the main building, no minor buildings at all
>no sanitation or any other interesting mechanic that for the first time since mediveal 2 made the city building interesting, even though not very immersive
>no religion at all
>no culture at all
>no mercenaries at all
>no agents at all <<<<<<<<<<< Huge Step back in terms of the series
>even worse when you consider that you still cannot split up your army and just have to keep them in a stack, because you cannot scout AT ALL anymore
This is maybe one step forwards at most and 10 steps backwards.
>>14620475
It's so much worse than just a reskin. They removed half of their game mechanics.
f02ade No.14665417
>>14665089
>>14664710
Please hold your horses.
The game might turn out to be different, and more Crusader Kings 2 meet Total War than regular Total War.
f02ade No.14665439
>>14662258
He's got classic nerd look, that's for sure.
2bb503 No.14665455
>>14662258
What an absolute cuck he turned into in the end.
226739 No.14665481
>literal shilling
why do you do it?
>>14665455
What did he even do?
>his first move in modding was to steal assets
top kek
>Lusted is a well respected member of TWC. He joined TWC in Jan 2005, but only posted rarely in the modding sections until the release of Barbarian Invasion for RTW. Then with the release of his Late Romans mod for BI, he began to frequent TWC more and more often. The release of his Late Romans also coincided with one of the few black spots on his records. Eager to include a Dragonarri in the v1 of the mod he included one done by Razor for the Fall of Rome mod he was also part of. Lusted did so without permission, and Razor soon found out and complained. Lusted, soon realized his error and feeling guilty voluntarily removed the download link for v1 of his mod, and he was removed from the Fall of Rome team. He and Razor have since patched up their relationship and there is no longer bad blood between them. This incident is also responsible for some of Lusted's protective nature regarding modders rights.
Wonder if he wrote his own wiki page too.
>He later came in for criticism for banning the popular member Ferrets54. Ferrets had claimed it was a politically motivated banning. Lusted has always claimed it was due to Ferrets excessive number of user notes and infractions, and the large number of chances he has and has messed up.
Also a circlejerking forum member
f02ade No.14665490
>>14665481
>He later came in for criticism for banning the popular member Ferrets54. Ferrets had claimed it was a politically motivated banning.
So who's what?
36a078 No.14665924
>>14655537
no you're thinking of heavy defense units for fatiguing enemies. chaff is just shit you throw to either draw an army away or have the units get chewed up while your tougher units right behind can safely movely up to the front and i don't mean your units 5 fucking miles behind
a9aacf No.14666820
>>14665417
I have played Total Warhammer, there is no hope for dynamic gameplay.
They make the games pretty and flashy, while not focusing on mechanics.
I have no idea where this retardation comes from game studios, they have a market for a niche game yet they have decided to focus more on cinematic.
Total Warhammer is so fucking boring.
You will be using the beginning roster, with none of the fun units until turn 100, that's 5-6 hours of gameplay.
By then you've managed to conquer 15-25% of the map, you have generals with full stacks all made out of beginning units and now you have to walk armies up to your beginning cities to move troops into them.
Compare to Shogun, I could get advanced units relatively quickly if I focused on it, and I could then take those troops and move them without a general so they could then join my foriegn army.
Also Lizardmen are niggers, I played them, and could kill full stacks with nothing but saurus's.
Meanwhile skaven are shat on by the auto-resolve.
There is also no naval combat so autoresolve on water which means death unless you're lizards.
bf15d7 No.14666864
>>14666820
>I can't adapt to new games therefore new games are bad
226739 No.14666905
Seriously though
why shill for total war?
it's a dead husk of a game series and the people working on it are soulless shekel-grabbing cunts
2cc673 No.14667354
>>14662301
>What's the difference between you and the average libtard again?
M-m-muh horseshoe theory
bf15d7 No.14667383
>>14667354
It has nothing to do with that. I simply pointed out that both libtards and these types of "/v/ must hate everything" posters have the same pattern of not-arguing.
9531bd No.14667388
>>14666864
>I didn't read the post but I must give a sarcastic reply
bf15d7 No.14667413
>>14667388
What, you want me to point out how you're wrong? Nah, won't bother. You people are only here to circle jerk about how everything was better back in the day anyway.
2cc673 No.14667422
>>14667383
Yes anon don't take sides. Only you are smart enough to know the real way.
bf15d7 No.14667427
>>14667422
You're projecting and trying to argue something nobody said.
a9aacf No.14667548
>>14667413
We have ID's here cuckchanner.
Its not unusual retarded little fuck bois are called out by more then one person.
d461a5 No.14667572
>>14665417
Hello CA shill!
Yes, the game "might" turn out fine, but we all know it will be shit just like everything CA has made post Shogun 2. They've taken the Bethesda school of development to heart: If you've staffed the company with subhuman curryniggers just rip out any mechanic they're too dumb to make work!
bf15d7 No.14667584
>>14667548
Yea, I'm aware. Your point?
d461a5 No.14667619
>>14667584
You're a cocksucking faggot that got brain damage because Jamal's dick was lodged down your throat for too long and cut your oxygen supply.
It's objective fact TW games were better during the Rome 1 and Medieval 2 period.
bf15d7 No.14667626
>>14667619
So you have no point or arguments then, got it.
d461a5 No.14667628
>>14667626
By all means, feel free to tell everyone how Warhammer is better than Medieval 2. Hell, the Warhammer mod for Medieval 2 is better than the garbage CA peddles.
bf15d7 No.14667633
>>14667628
Are you trying to say something or are you just throwing a tantrum like a lefty on Twitter now?
d461a5 No.14667642
>>14667633
>centrist nigger being a nigger
Well, no surprise there.
bf79a3 No.14667645
>>14621602
Medieval : Total War, which no one here probably know how to launch.
36a078 No.14667662
>>14667548
maybe you should should use a better argument for unit variety than fucking shogun with its like 3 unit roster and trying to shit on naval combat when prior "good" games didn't even have autoresolve naval combat
>>14667628
flying units and artillery and monsters that actually throw units around instead of the garbage i got with the warhammer mod of large units just fucking slapping people down where they stand
bf79a3 No.14667681
>>14664710
>>no agents at all <<<<<<<<<<< Huge Step back in terms of the series
Fuck your chance-based game kiddo.
d461a5 No.14667693
>>14667662
>it has a bunch of flavor units
>so it's better!
>let's also pretend cavalry charges actually simulate properly
The absolute state of cum guzzlers of Jewish jizz.
bf15d7 No.14667695
>>14667645
Which begs the question why those games aren't on GOG yet.
>>14667681
Agents were okay in SH2 and then for some reason got worse again. The "3 agents, 3 stats, 3 options" shit in Rome 2 was retarded as all fuck. The fact that they've been ripping out so much shit that did work in Attila - Which Britannia is basically just a mod of anyway - is incomprehensible to the entire community.
36a078 No.14667715
>>14667693
>>let's also pretend cavalry charges actually simulate properly
i missed you bro. shine on and keep peddling those stale memes friendo
d461a5 No.14667733
>>14667715
How prepared of a shill you are. That's not even a cavalry charge, it's just instakill speshul power to hide the fact the shit engine can't simulate them properly.
Your butthurt is delicious.
36a078 No.14667747
>>14667733
you seem a little butthurt, its okay to admit you're wrong on an anonymous imageboard
d461a5 No.14667758
>>14667747
I'm not wrong though. Go look up how Medieval 2 or Rome 1 handled cavalry charges. The infantry line will buckle and cave inward, some horsemen will get stuck between the infantry, many will pass through if the charge is successful.
Here half the unit just melts away like it's been cut with a laser. The infantry just dies and is blown away with some shitty "physics". I'm not surprised a retard like you, that likely hasn't even played the originals, would be impressed.
a892d6 No.14667775
>>14667662
My point wasn't unit variety you cum slurping retard, my point was it locks the intresting faction unique units behind 100 fucking turns, and removed units able to move so you have to take a general one at time up to where you built the building to get the unit.
For example
>Dark elves
>Oh man finally got a dragon
>Let's give it to my general with bonus for dragon skill
>Oh he's 6 provinces away.
So you spend 12 fucking turns just moving his as there and back, and you have to do this one at time for each lord as you need to have generals in border towns to lower nearby corruption, keep order and defend against attacking forces.
Oh and the AI gets huge growth and income bonuses so you will see all the fun units being used against you.
bf15d7 No.14667793
>>14667775
That is simply not an issue you cockmongler.
>Build up core provinces
>Get high-tier units online
>Exchange frontline general with scrub
>Raise experienced frontline general at home, have him recruit high-tier units
or, because as you said the AI gets these bonuses, just conquer a province with high-tier buildings from them.
bf15d7 No.14667795
Also like the nigger dicksucker you are you're ignoring the RoRs that let you have specialist units extremely early on.
d461a5 No.14667800
>>14667793
>it's okay CA hasn't fixed the AI since 2000 and still relies on them massively cheating to prove some sort of challenge
da9c3d No.14667850
>>14667733
>instakill
>some soldiers begin getting up
>>14667758
>unit melts away like it's been cut with a laser
>while cavalry units slow down on impact and get caught up in the formation
>>14667775
>it locks the intresting faction unique units behind 100 fucking turns
Yeah, I also really fucking hated waiting for the advanced units to spontaneously unlock late into a Medieval 2/Rome 1 as Rome campaign. They should abandon the magical year where everything just appears and instead adopt some sort of method to choose when and how you unlock the stuff. I want to decide when I reform my military or when I begin making gunpowder units, and I don't want the game to decide it for me. And I can't believe people made mods like Stainless Steel and thought it was a good idea to just expand the automatic timelocking of units. That's the stupidest shit ever.
d461a5 No.14667867
>>14667850
They get caught on each other you fucking retard. Also, now that you mention it, the thing looks even more comical. So not only are the physics fucked and launching soldiers a ridiculous distance away, but they also survive getting hit by a lance? Good job CA!
da9c3d No.14667895
>>14667867
>First knight gets caught on the knights in front of him
>And not the men he's trampling over
2e0423 No.14667951
>>14667775
>>14667850
That`s why you need more than one main general, I personally structure armies with 3 main generals: a full stack one taking territories, a defensive one with fewer troops using garrisoned units to be able to defense and a third one supporting both armies when needed, including bringing higher tier units to the frontlines.
Of course this whole system is flawed, garrisoned units for exemple are unbalanced as fuck, they cost no upkeep and are just as strong as regular troops, it gives too much benefits to the defensive player to just sit down on his buildings and needing a 3 stack army to lose a settlement. Needing multiple types of building to make a certain unit instead of higher tiers of a single building is dumb too, it just diminishes unit variety for the player and confuses the AI. Natural unit replenishment is dumb too, encourages reckless play during battles and slow down the game on the overall map.
Considering that the greatest campaign I ever played was with a mod that diminished natural replenishment by like 95% plus it removed extra tech and buildings for high tier units, that was like hardcore mode for a total war game, you had to manually replenish troops by having safe battle lines that transported new units tot he front, that also meant that if you took an equal sized army on enemy territory you would lose so many units that you couldn`t actually take their capital, it made you throw cheap and disposable units first and wait until the very last moments to use your higher tier troops so they would lose as fewer models possible. The only bad thing is that the AI wasn`t at all made to handle that, it made for some funny instances where lords with like 1 hp would initiate battle with you. It fits so well the total war model I don`t understand why it was never an official game mode.
Regarding your problem with the army management, I personally like that kind of logistic, it`s pretty much the only obstacle regarding empire micromanagement you will get since CA streamlined trade by getting rid of trade routes, streamlined empire fortifications by getting rid of being able to build fortress anywhere, streamlined diplomacy by making it as hands off as possible downright removed for most the factions If only wawa had these medieval2 mechanics it would be a salvageable game
600de1 No.14667956
>>14667800
Oddly enough, this is one of the only times where the GIRL is the one who was cucked. He still fertilized them.
36a078 No.14668026
>>14667850
>They get caught on each other
just like med2
0c4aff No.14668032
I bought Total War Warhammer 2 because the races actually looked interesting unlike the previous game. What's the playstyle of the lizard men?
bf15d7 No.14668044
>>14668032
Smash saurus warriors into everything, win.
2abfd1 No.14668051
>Play this TW game
But why? This seems like they just took Rome 2 assets and focused in on a specific area like Atilla. Is CA still trying to make their money back off that shit game after it flopped?
At least the Warhammer series tried something new.
>>14668032
Get big dinos. Recreate Jurassic Park.
6d7c5e No.14668061
All total warhammer needs is formations back.
b02e18 No.14668449
>>14668051
This is the next historical TW next to 3 kingdoms.
36a078 No.14668563
>>14668061
so uh, do you need the .pack file uploaded?
6d7c5e No.14668590
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14668563
Excellent. Now that they also have dawn of war style sync kills there's really no reason to play any other total war.
8a7e6e No.14670019
59a4a8 No.14670272
I'm kinda okay with the lowered expectation since this game can be a stealth hit.
2dd304 No.14670416
>>14667715
>They all just start getting back up
It's shit. I wish Medieval 2 had wedge formations though, and that they wouldn't all aggro on a squad because one horse clipped a soldier.
2dd304 No.14670463
>>14665924
Why do you selectively respond to only certain parts of the post? Are you a jew? They cost too much. Chaff doesn't mean units that are completely useless because then they wouldn't exist, part of being chaff is that their poor performance is justified by how cheap they are, to act as chaff at the current price, they would have to perform much better at tying down enemy units, separating formations, disrupting maneuvers, and as screens.
Heavy defense units are one way to fatigue out an enemy, another way is to force them to fight and kill a unit which has less value than the stamina used to defeat them, ie, chaff. This is a central point of undead in every setting. Skeletons and zombies are unable to achieve this because of their cost.
36a078 No.14670510
>>14670463
skellies are fucking cheap i don't know what you've been smoking
9531bd No.14670511
>>14668590
>no reason to play any other total war
7fdb3a No.14670575
Until dynamic character traits return TW will be dead to me. And even then, there's plenty else that needs to be changed before I consider a purchase.
3ea969 No.14671160
>>14670272
This is extremely low quality shilling. If any of your handlers are watching I want to let them know that they should find someone better than you ASAP.
>>14670416
>I wish Medieval 2 had wedge formations though
But… but it does. Anon your memory is rather shitty today.
36a078 No.14671435
>>14671426
or you could ignore it altogether instead of getting setting yourself up to get replied to without a sage like a fucking dumbass :^)
cc4f49 No.14671471
>>14670575
Character traits were never dynamic, you could easily avoid or gain traits when you knew the script behind them.
59a4a8 No.14675695
Man, I don't know what to think.
LegendofTotalWar and Darren (CA's ex-dev) fucking trashtalk this game.
But the recent footage with Lindybeige looks fun.
Really do not know what to believe anymore.
Is the UK doomed?
f61fc4 No.14677049
>>14620404
Perfectly fine to have combat dominated by MOBA hero units that can solo through armies.
3ea969 No.14677144
>>14675695
>But the recent footage with Lindybeige looks fun.
What footage? 70% of the video was him either sperging out about the castle and its decorations (the only real reason to watch his vids is his autism) or talking to people. He barely showed the game at all. I love that guy but he's not the sort of person that is very knowledgeable about vidya.
d461a5 No.14677164
>>14677144
Nor should he be trusted when money is involved. He's shilled stuff before because they paid him.
59a4a8 No.14680555
>>14677049
Another bullshit.
f3599b No.14680665
>>14611404
Dropping a charity known for financial misconduct is nice and all, but from what we've been shown so far it looks like its just going to continue the tailspin the series has been in since Rome 2. I'm not saying outright that it'll be shit as some of the new mechanics look like they might be interesting, but TWs are made or broken on how these interact with each other and most of the streamlining Shogun onward has been done pretty recklessly. At this point most of the game's systems need to be thrown out completely and redesigned from the ground up.
d6e6d0 No.14680694
I enjoy Total Warhammer, it's the best game since Shogun 2 and it's a pretty good game overall that fixes many of Warscapes bullshit.
b373ab No.14680727
>>14677144
>Lindy "Spandau" Beige
>Lindy "Shoot through a Tiger" Beige
>Lindy "The British have won the 100 years war" Beige
>Lindy "What is a Federschwert" Beige
>Lindy "Plants are not poisonous" Beige
>Lindy "The great Courses of History" Beige
>Lindy "Buy my Comic Book" Beige
He is not very knowledgeable about most things.
0da7a4 No.14680980
>>14654060
Fuck you, I like Medieval 1.
22e77f No.14681927
Total war is complete shit now. Pirated WH and it's the same problem its had for ages.
>Everyone gets a 2.5k freebie income
>this means everyone can maintain full stacks of shit, even one city shitholes.
>literally every battle past the first 5 turns ends up as 20 stack vs 20 stack
>cities can't build shit, only 3-5 buildings
>Only one income building per settlement, giving around 300 gold
>you literally need to control and build up 8 cities to get a 2nd stack and double the power of a 1 settlement shithead.
>higher difficulty levels (needed to stop the AI being completely retarded in combat) get more buffs meaning they'll have at least 1.5 stacks defending a shithole.
>Of course if the batshit insane AI decides to declare on your out of nowhere (constantly happens), you'll be facing a half dozen full stack armies on all sides and the shitty free garrisons of 5-10 units won't do shit to stop your entire 30 turns building up a settlement being pillaged in 1 turn.
>literally the only way to afford multiple armies covering all fronts is to spam the cheapest unit possible, which sucks horrifically if you fight battles but the broken auto resolve means you'll keep winning.
I don't recall Rome or Medieval 2 having any of these problems. Shogun 2 had some but nowhere near as bad.
a33b3a No.14681965
>>14681927
>I don't recall Rome or Medieval 2 having any of these problems.
Just because you can't remember doesn't mean they didn't exist. The Med2 AI being psychotic is well known. The King's Purse as a base income always existed. The bullshit about muh cheap fullstacks is just you being a bad player.
d461a5 No.14681971
>>14681927
I remember playing a Shogun 2 battle, an ally was attacking an enemy castle and I joined in, so I first let him attack to waste his army (because I was planning to break off the alliance and attack him afterwards) and watch as his troops get decimated and ultimately fully routed, while the enemy is left with a few troops still capable of fighting. I attack the castle, finish off the stragglers and think to myself that I have secured an easy victory.
I go back to the strategic map to find out that my army was booted out of the province, which was given to the AI opponent (despite his army having left the field of battle in shame and defeat) and that, magically, all his troops were now back at full strength and he was fielding a full stack again.
22e77f No.14682022
>>14681965
>The Med2 AI being psychotic is well known.
It's not the AI being psychotic, it's that you literally can't defend your territory unless you spam stacks of cheap shit. In M2 and Rome there were plenty of smaller battles, AI wasn't walking around with complete 20 unit doomstacks everywhere, and defense could be carried out by a cheap garrison + maybe 3-5 additional units. In WH you literally can't add units to the defense piecemeal, the only way you can assist in defense is to move your entire damn army across the map.
>The King's Purse as a base income always existed
Just loaded up Rome and it's not there in my financials. Additionally its not strictly the free 2.5k, it's that every other source of income has been nerfed to shit to the point where you have to be monstrously large to support enough stacks to defend you territory. This wasn't the case in earlier games since cities could actually be built up substantially enough to contribute more.
>The bullshit about muh cheap fullstacks is just you being a bad player.
Please tell me how to defend on 3 fronts against multiple 20/20 stacks apiece while having around 3.5k income. I'm sure you can abuse the AI with horse archers or w/e but that's tedious and stupid.
eac3d0 No.14682059
>mods delete all the posts about OP being a kike shill for CA
OY vey dont insult our $50 blood packs anon you antisemetic
2abfd1 No.14682148
>>14681927
>cities can't build shit, only 3-5 buildings
They fixed that in the second game. It's now 10 for major capitals with minor settlements at 4 each. Minor capitals only get 8.
>Only one income building per settlement, giving around 300 gold
Depends on the location and the starting race. Dwarfs get some of the best income due to their brewery providing a trading resource, income, and public order.
Stacks have always been a problem in total war games even in Medieval 2 and Napoleon. The issue is that in newer games they removed the option to have units roam on their own without commanders. This in return removed the option of hunting down smaller reinforcing groups.
a171b2 No.14682160
>>14681965
>The King's Purse as a base income always existed
It's comparatively the value of one half decent town at about 2500 florins. I think the amount is different for each faction.
It can just barely cover the costs of a half stack very early game (a unit of mailed knights is 250 per turn and most spearmen are around 200).
>>14682022
>it's not there in my financials
It's in Medieval 2, but is hardly a relevant source of income unless you have literally one town and is basically there to prevent you from spiralling into bankruptcy by turn 3.
Thing is, there were so many rebels and independent cities to go around that it did not matter even that early on and the game has you set up to start capturing those as soon as you begin.
a33b3a No.14682310
>>14682160
The base income in Wawa is also around 2500. In fact I think that value hasn't changed at all throughout the series.
The stack in my picture is one after 17 turns. Yea, it's full of Clanrats but the Gutter Runners are already upper T1/lower T2. This doesn't account for RoR units you get by leveling up your lord quickly.
The switch to the army system instead of individual stacks brings its own problems, I agree with that, but it's still better than dealing with 20 3-stack armies each turn.
59a4a8 No.14684767
05a46c No.14684839
>>14681971
If you wanted his valuable units to fuck off and die then you should have engineered the fight better
05a46c No.14684853
>>14682314
It could just be that I have a problem with warhammer, but that screenshot makes the game look shit. In Rome I'd have a bulk of shield wall guys, some shirtless peasants, some berserkergang, and some flaming archers. I can't tell what the fuck is going on with this warhammer. Monkey samurai? A bunch of veteran'd rat infantry? I heard this was "somewhat a return to form" for creative assembly but it does rather look as if bethesda imagined an RTS
256b68 No.14684863
>>14621022
I wanna fuck the redhead.
f3599b No.14684891
>>14684767
You say this like it's a reasonable counterpoint.
>>14684863
All bottle redheads have genital warts. Accept no substitutes.
59a4a8 No.14685111
>>14684853
Ya just don't know shit. And no, there's no monkey samurai, you are mistaking it with TES.
There is indeed stormrats though.
>>14684891
I mean, it's not like the blood and gore is that impressive, it just sprays blood all over, you barely see gore.
e4b637 No.14694784
>>14684767
It should be free.
a1ad07 No.14694867
>>14611605
Shogun 2 is good. I love bombarding the fuck out of castles with cannonballs from my ships.
d461a5 No.14694887
>>14694867
I only wish it hadn't been made in Warscape. Such a shit engine, with so many shit features. Also, not featuring the Imjin war.
18e202 No.14694939
>>14667956
>believing this
She was clearly blacked, probably had a breeding fetish too and they went the whole 9 yards.
e4b637 No.14699183
>>14667956
>Oddly enough, this is one of the only times where the GIRL is the one who was cucked.
This is called /cuckquean/
7210a1 No.14699426
Fuck off ca shill. Your devs are cancerous feminist high off the pc jew, and it shows with all these shit games.
a93376 No.14699758
>>14694784
it was free with Medieval 2. It just didn't have the finisher moves, those however could be added with a mod that was a bitch to get working, but it had decapitations and lost limbs. But yeah fucking hard to get working.
CA now is like $3 because MUH ESRB won't let me include it for free.
b02e18 No.14700219
>>14699758
Proof? I do not remember free blood in Med 2.
a93376 No.14704086
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14700219
Decapitation mod, its floating around on TWCenter can't be fucked linking it. There was a pack floating around that had dismembered limbs and persistent arrows but it was a pain in the ass to get working.
The Blood effects are from Vanilla in the video, mods added much better Blood effects.
Even still, Empire Total War had free blood as well in the form of mods.
2221c0 No.14704119
>>14704086
Man, mod does not count.
c07a3e No.14704269
>>14611866
I played it half a year ago for the first time.
It's a good game, some campaign mechanics are better than in Med2, but everything else is much worse, especially the controls.
It is painful to play and crashes all the bloody time.
>>14621602
Medieval 2 Total War.
>>14700219
I'm not sure what you mean, but soldiers would get bloody if hit and had 2 or 3 degrees of wounds.
8dcbc6 No.14711855
bdc199 No.14711880
>>14620404
Warhammer is more akin to Wargame than what the Total War series is known for. It's flashy arcadey shit that entirely relies on gimmicks and raw stats. Any strategy past using the assfaggots-esque chokepoints is nonexistent.
281d07 No.14711981
>>14621602
Medieval 1 and Napoleon
0d683c No.14712040
Game comes out of next week.
Hope it is good.
0d683c No.14712077
>>14711855
Does this guy have meantl health?
>>14711880
>Warhammer
>chokepoint
Nigger what?
bdc199 No.14712415
>>14712077
Try playing the game. Half the maps are open field, and since everything is so arcadey terrain doesn't matter except for "-10% view range in forest!", and the other half are shitty linear assfaggot chokepointed garbage. Then, of course, you have the abysmal siege maps. They're larger, except that doesn't matter when they're so easy to breach and unit placement inside urban environments is even fucking worse than Empire's.
8a3809 No.14712601
>>14712415
>responding to blatant shills
You even said it yourself.
>Try playing the game.
Why even respond when you KNOW he doesn't give a shit about the game? He's just doing it to get people like you to bump the thread.
0d683c No.14712636
>>14712415
So you are talking about chokepoint on the map, I don't see the problem, this is present in past TW too, in fact it's why faction with a lot of bridges very easy to defend.
b314a8 No.14720098
>>14611404
Fucking sweet wawa was the first of the new engine games to finally get the gameplay right.
c9efd1 No.14720221
>>14720098
Atilla was pretty good too.
b314a8 No.14725315
>>14720221
It was better than Rome II I guess.
ccfb6e No.14725664
What other historic era could be used for a new Total War game?
Colonial era, with an African-centerd game?
2ebde7 No.14726656
Was pretty proud of myself to win the first battle. Can't believe I managed the 2nd. Dumbfounded that I was able to lose no units. Both were consecutive ambushes during my turn.
Modern Total War is pretty fucking retarded with automatic replenishment though. I have something like 60% and didn't even have to wait a turn since they replenished before my next turn began.
57ef35 No.14726800
>>14664710
Guess it's back to Attila for me
c140f5 No.14726920
>>14635888
>needing diversity instead of the glorious purity of Napoleonic combat
If you need tons of unnecessary "variety" then you suck and your taste is shit.
e8f794 No.14726940
>>14725664
I'd love to slaughter the Zulu at Rorke's Drift
580e93 No.14728469
>>14711855
kek Legend got Darth Modded.
Never go full CA Shill.
1e5f76 No.14728713
>>14725664
17th-century BC, Mediterranean.
3b8628 No.14728717
c20110 No.14728764
>>14728469
Darth was an und bearable autist, Legend is an asshole but his criticism is sound. I'm not surprised though, it was clear from the get-go that exclusive access will be used for shilling, not improving games.
c20110 No.14728773
>>14711880
Hammer and Anvil is still perfectly viable. Tell me what amazing strategy you used in R1 because apart from misleading the AI with chaff, I can't recall that game having more in-depth strategies either.
2ebde7 No.14731629
>>14728773
Pretty sure as far as strategy goes he's referring to the campaign map. Battle map tactics are pretty much universal across all Total War games, and there's plenty of tactics beyond hammer and anvil.
8dcbc6 No.14733491
>>14675695
Where did Darren trashtalk the game?
0d683c No.14733611
Game just comes out, first impressions turn good.
I await sales now.
0d683c No.14733612
>>14733491
Darren trashtalk CA in general.
I do not want to link to leddit but most of it is there.
da0714 No.14733783
>>14733611
I don't see how Age of Charlemagne: Second verse, same as the first is in any way shape or form better than Attila.
580e93 No.14733878
>>14733611
they could shit in a box and you retards would still buy it.
0d683c No.14734211
>>14733783
Age of Charlemagne improves on Attila very much though.
Performance-wise, the new game is already better than Attila.
7a1541 No.14734441
>>14733612
>>14734211
>meme spacing
>being an obvious CA employee shilling
Fuck off already kikes nobody ants to buy your $300 dlc complete collections with mandatory $10 for blood option on disc dlc. just kill yourself
57ef35 No.14734564
>watching the devs stream the game
Battles look good, everything else looks like a fucking downgrade from Attila
259c8a No.14734588
My first and only TW so far have been Attila, have I lost anything ?
57ef35 No.14734597
>>14734588
Play MTW2 and Rome 1 are my suggestions to you
1e5f76 No.14734723
Rome 1 with EB installed is the penultimate Total War experience.
1e5f76 No.14734743
Sorry for the double post. Just wanted to emphasize that Rome 1 with EB is so perfect that it will compel you to uninstall all your other Total War games and shit on them if they happen to be physical copies.
0d683c No.14739035
>>14734743
>>14734723
Oh please.
Anyway, ToB reviews come back to mixed now, which is weird since even the negative reviews enjoy the games, they just seem to be mad at CA.
1e5f76 No.14739102
>>14739035
Oh please yourself, Schlomo.
0d683c No.14739113
>>14739102
I wouldn't say Rome 1 with EB is the best anything, no. If anything, Third Age mod is the best with DaC, it's almost an entire new game.
And you can get nearly all TW for free, with only ToB not being cracked yet, so there's no point in me shilling.
1e5f76 No.14739158
>>14739113
Why would I want to get any of those Total War games, cracked or otherwise, when I already own the good ones?
a5e146 No.14741777
>>14739158
Because those are not the only good games in the series, m8.
bdc199 No.14741852
>>14728773
Of course hammer and anvil is perfectly viable, because literally every single unit can do either parts of it. If you think the only possible strategic measure ever viable in TW is flanking with cavalry you just prove my point. Everything in Warhammer moves effectively the same fast, fantasy speed- because it's a fantasy game-, with maybe up to a dozen percentage difference. In Empire or Napoleon, for example, I can form a battle line with variable features; triangle bumps to concentrate fire, attacks and defenses in detail, the concentration and effort that comes with managing each said detail, carrousel lines, end-to-end lines, collapsing lines, ambushes, sweeping side attacks, using breakings in the enemy lines, fucking hell the list goes on and on. Or, I don't make a battle line whatsoever and I use an analog of squad tactics, fire and retreat, to whittle down the enemy. I cannot stress it enough, Warhammer is a shoddy zero-effect piece of steaming, nasty smelly shit that consists of left clicking to select and right clicking to attack, or using the gimmicks of your heros that can literally win against entire armies solo if leveled up enough. Suicide yourself
bdc199 No.14741884
>>14741852
And to expound on my point http://napolun.com/mirror/napoleonistyka.atspace.com/infantry_tactics_4.htm
Everything listed, every realistic tactic, every possible minute detail of line battle is possible in napoleon. In Warhammer, you run around at the speed of sound and just watch the fucking flashy shit happen and hold your hands up to your face and scream about how cool it is. Wow, fucking neat my skellies are killing some vampires and orks how EPIC XDDDDDDDDDd and COOL. HEHE DAKKA AMRIGHT XDDDDDDDDDD. You literally do nothing, as a I said above, in regards to any fun, realistic, interesting, usable, tactics beyond using choke points. The maps are shit, the units are plain, some are locked behind paywalls, the factions, despite being original aesthetically are very similar in terms of gameplay, and the only variance comes about when looking at heros which again, for the umpteenth time this thread, can literally fucking win battles on their lonesome. If you like Warhammer, good for you, go jack off over it somewhere else, because not only would I not hesitate to call it not WT it's a fucking shitty game in every aspect imaginable, from the broken campaign to the worthless, shit-sucking battles.
a5e146 No.14742393
>>14741884
Nigger you are just using buzzwords now, there is nothing stopping you from employing medieval tactics in Warhammer.
3c00eb No.14742440
>>14741884
>>14741852
Pretty idiotic post considering you use the same primitive repetitive tactics in Napoleon that you use in all the previous Total War games, just with slightly more focus on pew-pew.
fee327 No.14742460
>>14742440
The real tragedy is that the franchise has gone nowhere really new since Medieval 1. Rome 1 and Medieval 2 were mostly graphical upgrades, with a few tweaks to the formula here and there, but the franchise hasn't gone anywhere since then, and you could argue it has devolved below what Shogun 1 had.
bdc199 No.14742468
>>14742440
Kek, if you're so retarded that you can only consider rushing that might explain why you like Warhammer
a5e146 No.14742470
>>14742460
That is bullshit.
You nigger need to play Shogun 1 and Med 1 to see how archaic they arem
a5e146 No.14742479
>>14742468
Nigger you are playing TW, not a regular where you can rush.
fee327 No.14742483
>>14742470
Oh, the CA shills are back.
bdc199 No.14742495
>>14742479
What are you even trying to say? You can rush, run forward without a regard for tactics, with your units in TW, yes you can.
>Napoleonic warfare is the same thing as medieval warfare lmao
That's pretty much what the guy is saying.
a5e146 No.14742509
>>14742495
You can, but it is not a viable tactics since your units are more vulnerable in running.
bdc199 No.14742519
>>14742509
Uhuh, yeah no shit, kind of my point. You use different tactics in medieval or rome than you do in empire or napoleon, while you use none at all- just rushing- in warhammer because it's arcadey shit where it is perfectly viable
a5e146 No.14742529
>>14742519
Proof?
Due to the advanced artillery in some factions, it is harder to rush than normal TW.
bdc199 No.14742539
>>14742529
>proof
playing the game. kys you drooling retard, if you even read anything i said above you clearly don't have the mental processing power to comprehend it
a5e146 No.14742543
>>14742539
I play it faggot, the pace is not faster than normal TW.
bdc199 No.14742557
>>14742543
of course you play it, otherwise you wouldn't be spewing laughable lies to defend it. the pace is much faster than normal TW.
977b86 No.14742656
>>14741884
Napoelon total war has absolutely fucking zero to do with real life napoleonic tactics.
bdc199 No.14742663
>>14742656
it doesn't when referring to depth of line or marching columns, but it certainly does with everything having to do with unit use and line formations
fb5b37 No.14742748
>>14621636
>the multiverse is shit*
You can thank me later.
0d683c No.14742923
>>14742557
Man, I don't want to argue bullshit because it is bullshit.
TW Warhammer isn't all that faster than normal TW, the average big Warhammer lasts about 7 to 10 mins, and this is about average for a TW game.
>>14742663
Which you can do in Warhammer as well.
In fact, Warhammer has much more due to the variety of unit stats and functions.
The only thing lacking was specific formation.
0d683c No.14746481
Bump.
Anyone here play Britannia yet?
0d683c No.14748137
>>14746481
I guess everybody waits for the crack?
256510 No.14748167
Total War Arena any good or fun?
90dce0 No.14749919
>>14742923
>average big Warhammer battle lasts about 7 to 10 mins
>big Warhammer lasts about 7 to 10 mins
>lasts about 7 to 10 mins
>7 to 10 mins
>this is about average for a TW game
comical. thanks for proving my point you dumb faggot
also i am the guy you are replying to, ip probably changed
279454 No.14750094
>>14725664
I'd like a full game focused on the precolumbian americas, rather then just Medivial 2's expansion. It's a really underrated part of history and thhey could do interesting sttuff with it.
The only problem is no horses, which limits unit variety (though we have more then enough examples and informaton recorded, about, say, the different attire, ranks, and equipment of thee Aztec military to have different units there, they are just all infantry), but I feel like that could be overcome by placing a greater emphasis on other mechanics: For Mesoameriica in particular, you could have the unique elements of geopolitics in the region play a role: with an emphasis on politics and diplomacy of courting allies and obtaining tributary/vassal city-states and needing to manage your relationships with them to prevent them from turning on you (as with what happened with the Aztecs) and to keep them providing troops and supplies (with the fact that warfare is seasonal and logistically limited without allied/subserivent citty-states along the way of the campaign due to the lack of beasts of burden) with stuff like Flower Wars and the political implications of human sacrifice playing a role as well.
Recent total wars have put diplomacy more and more on the backburner, I feel like having all of this political and logistical planning would be interesting.
ddb8c8 No.14752035
>>14749919
I play Med 2 nowadays and with speed up, it is about 5 to 7 mins, m8.
279454 No.14754258
>>14750094
>>14725664
Also, Southeast asia during the tiime of the Khmer empire, Sukhothai kingdom, etc
2a1d3b No.14754484
So if you guys could take any of the objectively worse Total War games and improve it, what would you add, remove or modify?
c2218d No.14754601
>>14750094
To be fair Thrones of Britannia shouldn't have cavalry either (only mounted infantry) if we're being historically accurate. It should also have religious conflict, considering only one of the Norse kings was a Christian convert. Also the Norse didn't wear crowns yet
c2218d No.14754605
>>14754601
and no one wore crown in battle!