f33d43 No.14608738
Holy fuck this combat is shit edition
As far as I can tell combat is 90%+ stats, rather than skill based which is super disappointing.
>successful blocking can incur major losses to health
>NPC dodge animations regularly go through weapon animations and vice versa.
>NPC attack animations can start almost a half second after the players, and still end before, or interrupt the players- making stats way more important than skill, again
>blurry vision from stamina loss and other quirky hit animations
>extreme use of artificial difficulty in terms of health/skill of enemies
>vanilla connects the number of saves you can make to an in game item (ignoring the millions of other reasons why a player may want to save a game in an open world)
>best weapons/armor for endgame are easily found on the map with minimal effort
>can't exit fullscreen mode without forcing it back to windowed, and then back again
>shipped with 30fps cap that has to be edited out of the config file
>several months after release before high res textures are included
Discuss!
Also have any mods fixed/mitigated the above issues?
4d7453 No.14608746
>>14608738
>(((Discuss!)))
000000 No.14608750
>>14608738
>nigger.jpg
But anon. This game has no niggers whatsoever. Only glorious whites.
f33d43 No.14608771
>>14608746
kek
>>14608750
Thats true, and I'll give credit where it is due. The setting is really quite pleasant and the absence of niggers was great in the current year.
864fcd No.14608812
>>14608738
I used to hate the combat until after many hours with Bernard on the training ring. In short:
Git Gud
f33d43 No.14608837
>>14608812
but combat has nothing to do with being good when the enemy insta kills you through your own block, has superior range, attack speed, armor, health and movement speed. Its about stats and I'm pretty tempted to console command a few in before I uninstall.
4e5920 No.14608877
>>14608837
You are either at the start of the game, or have not actually played it. Enemies do not attack faster than you, no stats make you attack faster. You can take armor from enemies you kill, or like you said you can go get the (almost) best armor making that point moot. I dont remember any kind of fps cap, unless you are a console peasant.
Basically get gud
f33d43 No.14608905
>>14608877
I'm on pc, but there was a 30fps cap that I needed to change a line in the config file to fix.
I am at the start, but I think that is as far as I'm going based on what I have seen. None of the fights have been intuitive and nothing works like it should. For christ sakes I've been doing better unarmed, spamming kick than with a sword.
864fcd No.14608927
>>14608837
Like I said; train with Bernard, it raises your stats.
f97983 No.14608971
>>14608837
The combat is not beginner friendly, not by a long shot.
>Stats matter
A cold hard fact-you are some bumfuck peasant blacksmith wannabe who's now a bumfuck homeless peasant warrior wannabe. You need to train. Get your arse into the ring with Bernard and let him pound harder than I did yo momma's pussy last night. The better your strength and stamina the better you are in a fight. Those guys running around in full plate with the Sword/Axe/Mace of pwnage? It's got a high requirement, and kingdom come is an RPG. You're a level 1 scrublet picking a fight with a level 10 fighter.
>Combat needs practice
I'm not talking strength or shit, I'm talking reading tells, getting a feel for your weapon's range, even basic shit like weakpoints; if they a have a shield, they're going to be well defending on their left side because of a fucking big shield being there, so focus on their right and the head. If they're running around in full plate but kindly forgot to have a closed helmet to protect their face, get your sword and put the point bit into it like they're a champion cocksucker and your sword's a shlong.
Again, train with bernard-he'll teach you the tells for an overhead or thrust or the like without you having to worry about reloading the game. He'll even teach you techniques like riposting, which make the difference.
All I can do is restate; this game hates new players. You struggle with some random peasant with a club and nothing else at the start, and by the end of the game you can reliably smash half a dozen enemies in full plate and packing steel when you've learned what you're doing.
5474dd No.14608979
>>14608738
>best weapons/armor for endgame are easily found on the map with minimal effort
patched right out like in the first patch
792b02 No.14608986
>>14608738
>successful blocking can incur major losses to health
That why you use perfect block, dummy. It doesn't cost you health or stamina.
>shipped with 30fps cap that has to be edited out of the config file
wat.
4aca4a No.14608996
>>14608927
I don't care what you are supposed to be, if a human gets stabbed in the eye with a sword they are out of the fight, even if its just a child that poked you. I've had to hit some guys 5+ times in the face before killing them. These hitboxes make darksouls looks good.
>>14608986
I can't perfect block for whatever reason. There is no icon, and regardless of when I block/parry I take damage, from between 2 seconds early to literally a tenth of a second before the strike hits. Even so, the first hit I block also does damage to health so blocking isn't even an option.
6b23e7 No.14609000
>>14608738
>As far as I can tell combat is 90%+ stats, rather than skill based which is super disappointing.
I wouldn't say it's 90%, but yes, stats are very important. Which isn't that unusual for an RPG – Gothic was the same way.
792b02 No.14609001
>>14608996
You probably are still in the tutorial. The game doesn't really start until you get to Rattay. Keep doing main story missions until you get a horse.
f97983 No.14609004
>>14608996
>I can't perfect block for whatever reason
Talk.
To.
Bernard.
He teaches you how to riposte and perfect block. Talk to the fucker, he is there to stop you sucking at fighting by training (and improving your stats) teaching you how combat flows and tells in a safe environment, and important shit like how to perfect block and riposte.
7fe1d9 No.14609005
>>14608905
>I'm at the start.
Nigger you haven't even learned how to fight yet. Did you fucking play for less than an hour and think you had experienced the whole game?
f97983 No.14609007
>>14609005
Expanding on this, if you're not at Rattay yet (ie, out the tutorial) then just go with the flow; you're a shitty peasant that doesn't know how to fight, so if you see a big pissed off knight in armour trying to twat you, run.
4aca4a No.14609040
>>14609004
wait, you don't even get access to basic combat actions until you talk to an NPC? fucking hell
864fcd No.14609054
>>14609040
You're a fucking peasant, just like your sorry ass isn't trained IRL on combat so isn't in the game. Give up your sorry misconceptions about what real combat is and how you would win, get training.
a1ab6a No.14609059
Why is it that this shit keeps happening?
Some fucking brainlet gets a game and tries to play it according to his expectations, instead of adapting to the rules of the game and going by that.
If he expects the game to be "realistic", then he will ignore stats and story and hope that swinging swords around works just like IRL instead of constrained by the rules of the game.
If he expects it to be an RPG and not an action RPG, then he will complain that stats alone don't win the game and he still has to play it.
Action RPGs get the worst of it since there's always the special fags complaining about how the game isn't realistic to them, but plenty of other games have this shit where the faggot complaining clearly can't adapt and work the with rules of the game, believing that shit should work like he thinks it should and it's the game's fault for getting it wrong.
Imagine playing chess and then complaining that Pawns can't attack directly in front of them because "dude, soldiers can stab ahead of them, what the fuck?"
It's a goddamn Action RPG. Stats do fucking matter and your character progression does fucking matter. You are swinging a weapon around with the strength of your character, not your own. So when you block and attack and you still lose health, it's because your character isn't strong enough to block the entire strike. It's putting your sword\shield in front of someone swinging a swords your way, it's not an I-Frame, for fucks sake.
You want your "realistic skill-based experience", go get Skyrim and download a mod to multiply damage x10 or whatever you feel is realistic enough for you. There you have a game where stats mean jack shit and you can just swing weapons around like a retard and block for insta-stagger or stealtharcher your way to victory without actually having to develop your character.
17081b No.14609071
I'm stuck on the lute quest. I quickly got the hang of simple melodies but now I'm expected to play a bunch of chords from memory, and the keyboard mapping is not very intuitive. I know the game has a boner for realism but this is ridiculous. Is the lute quest optional for completing the game?
a1ab6a No.14609077
>>14609040
>>14609054
This reminds me that a lot of people, especially kids, have this funny idea that they could totally pick up a gun, any gun, and be at least a decent shot with it right from the get go.
You just gotta aim it and pull the trigger right? Besides, you've seen a ton of movies\videogames so you know all about the kickback, the safety toggle and everything right?
And then it turns out they actually fucking suck at using a gun when given a chance because they have no training and vastly overestimated their own proeficiency.
Right, so what were we talking about? Oh right, how the son of a blacksmith should be taking on full plated enemies and block a full swing of a massive sword with a wooden club and his noodle arms.
b1f1f2 No.14609078
>>14609059
Right? There's nothing wrong with the game, it's perfect. Why would anyone ever attack it? Fucking /v/avra should have statues erected of him.
a1ab6a No.14609092
>>14609078
You know that pulling a strawman that weak just makes whatever point you want to make really weak right?
I never said the game was perfect after all.
But if you're playing a videogame, you're bound by it's rules and you gotta work with them, not despite them. You don't say that Pacman is shit because you can't jump over the walls for instance.
And when the complain can be boiled down to "this game isn't realistic enough", that's a fine wombo combo of bitching especially when there is indeed realism, but not the way you expect.
You're an untrained peasant going toe-to-toe against skilled warriors and you're complaining that you lost because the game isn't realistic enough.
Get some self awareness soon before it's too late.
4aca4a No.14609113
>>14609054
m8 basic swordplay isn't beyond a peasant, which of course includes striking, stabbing and blocking. I could certainly see a combo system, or skill system that involves upgrading or unlocking a bunch of additional moves, but simple shit like parrying, one would expect to start the game with.
>>14609077
As you say, he is the son of a blacksmith. I would expect that sort of character to have basic concepts of swinging a metal object down.
>>14609092
Folks want a balance between player skill and level/item contribution to combat outcomes. The 'best' games are always those with a strong preference for the former, with the later being necessary for progression. I'm bitching about the combat system being clumsy and putting far to much emphasis on in game player skill, rather than irl player skill.
7bbb32 No.14609131
>>14609113
>but simple shit like parrying, one would expect to start the game with
You DO start the game with parrying. It's called a block. You can block at the start with your weapon, that's always available. You can't PERFECT block until you talk to the combat instructor.
518cb6 No.14609143
It took me a while to get the combat too. Train with Bernard, a lot if need be. Use Tab for multiple enemies, there is a mechanic which makes target switching far better but is never actually explained. It definitely feels a bit janky when you get blocked/parried but you'll manage. I'm more disappointed that you can't go all in with polearms. When I read that you're just some shit tier peasant, I immediately wanted to use spears, pikes etc. as that would be the most valuable to an untrained fighter.
6b23e7 No.14609151
>>14609113
>m8 basic swordplay isn't beyond a peasant
but it is. You acting as if swordfighting is the same as swinging a stick around. A peasant wouldn't be capable of basic swordplay.
>I would expect that sort of character to have basic concepts of swinging a metal object down.
A sword and a blacksmith's hammer are two entirely different things. Are you retarded?
>The 'best' games are always those with a strong preference for the former, with the later being necessary for progression.
Gothic begs to disagree, fag.
7fe1d9 No.14609166
>>14609113
>m8 basic swordplay isn't beyond a peasant, which of course includes striking, stabbing and blocking.
All of which you can do at the start without training. What's your fucking point?
864fcd No.14609174
>>14609113
m8 I will swing a sword at you and see how your nerves fail you. A HEMA practitioner has more experience than either of us and they would still get nervous when they see a sword going to their face.
You might prefer to have a system that favors player skills vs Character skills but that ain't KDC. Your the son of a blacksmith with very limited combat training and if you think that a headshot against an enemy with a helmet is a 1hit kill, you clearly have not the slightest clue.
a1ab6a No.14609245
>>14609113
>basic swordplay isn't beyond a peasant
What you consider "basic" is way below actual basic. A peasant will swing a sword like an axe or a club, lose a fuckload of momentum, waste a lot of energy doing it, won't keep the right distance between himself and the oponent. Fights between peasants with swords end up really fucking fast because the only thing they know how to do is swing shit, not actually defending properly. You could give them a large timber and they'd be actually more effective at blocking a strike since they'd actually use both hands to grab the timber.
>he is the son of a blacksmith. I would expect that sort of character to have basic concepts of swinging a metal object down
See what I'm talking about? You talk as if knowing how to swing an hammer down on an anvil (as if he ever actually got to do that instead of being a little helper instead) would translate very well to swinging swords and especially to blocking.
There's a lot of technique to actually do this shit properly, lots of it don't even transfer at all, like how when swinging an hammer, you're not actually supposed to use any force when singing down, just let gravity do the rest while you guide the hammer.
>Folks want a balance between player skill and level/item contribution to combat outcomes.
"Folks" can want anything they want and they can go play some other game that panders to them if they don't like this one, because as it stands you do not have "level/item contribution" when you start the game at all, so you're at best at half your power and that's assuming you're an ace at the "player skill", which you likely aren't.
>The 'best' games are always those with a strong preference for the former
Those "best" games usually have a fairly linear gameplay designed to give you enemies apropriate for the stats you have at the current level so you end up feeling like the difference comes from how good you are instead of your stats\gear. Meanwhile KCD does not do such a thing at all, but niggers simply can't understand that.
It's the equivalent of playing Dark Messiah and right after the tutorial, go fuck around with some Orcs or Undead and getting your shit kicked in. Dark Messiah only introduces those enemies later on when you can fight against them on equal grounds while KCD puts strong oponents available right from the start, you're just not supposed to be a madman and actually try to fight them yet.
e23256 No.14609270
>>14608837
>combat being mostly reliant on stats
>a bad thing
>in an RPG
You're making me want to try this game now if it repels faggots like you.
4aca4a No.14609321
>>14609245
Physics are physics. If a nigger, or blacksmith or knight swings a sword with enough force, it causes lethal damage. I shouldn't have to stab some faggot literally 5 times in the back only to get beat down with his fists in order to take half his health. That isn't how reality works and certainly doesn't make for a fun game.
Nor do enemies that agro beyond line of sight (200+ yards).
a29ff3 No.14609326
>>14609270
it's not an rpg unless you're gonna start calling betheshit games rpgs now.
864fcd No.14609342
>>14609321
A peasant dies in 3 hits as it should, a plate wearing knight will take a fuckton of hit before he dies, as it should. Maybe you just don't get that medieval armor actually fucking worked.
4aca4a No.14609354
>>14609342
I own medieval armor, which has unironically saved my life. It depends on where it hits, and in the game, hit detection. Even the best armor has issues, and mail/scale has limited effectiveness against pointy objects.
e23256 No.14609358
>>14609326
Nothing Betheda has made in the past decade has had stat-dependent anything.
e23256 No.14609361
>>14609354
What do you do for a living? Hunt trolls?
a29ff3 No.14609363
4aca4a No.14609372
>>14609361
I wish. More like berkeley protest/antifa. Thank fuck I had a steel helmet since I got hit in the head several times with fuck knows what, but it left dents.
864fcd No.14609407
>>14609321
Armor in the game degrades and become useless past a certain point. IDK what you mean by hit detection since the game does make good use of it for some perks. HeadCracker actives when you get a good headshot.
If there is something the combat is missing is finishers and grappling.
96de05 No.14609500
>>14609372
Glad you're alright. Should just let cops and antifa beat each other to pieces, since both sides want to screw their own race over.
9b1fbd No.14609531
>>14608738
>extreme use of artificial difficulty in terms of health/skill of enemies
What did he mean by this?
864fcd No.14609589
>>14609531
I guess he thinks that a game that aimed for realism should let you kill fully armored enemies in a few hits.
a29ff3 No.14609610
>>14609589
yeah, everyone knows this is a fantasy game that takes place in the land of….Bohemia
c0bbcb No.14609691
We've had threads like this where the OP complains about combat but he's always at the beginning of the game. Whining about stats and the need to train, git gud, and gear up, this is shaping to be the most powerful retard deterrent since the first Gothic and Two Worlds games.
864fcd No.14609710
>>14609691
Two world sucks though.
76d44c No.14609740
>>14609589
Slapping someone in full plate across the chest with a sword is a fucking retarded way to fight but a single stab into the armpit where there is no armour will easily kill or at the very least maim to the point of bleeding out. Other points of interest are the gap in the visor, the groin, and the back of the knee.
I don't know how well the game does the hitboxes but I haven't seen any grappling whatsoever which was a major part of sword fighting in ancient Europe mainly because of the effectiveness of plate.
cc38c0 No.14609744
If you suck dick at swordplay and are a lazy nigger who doesn't want to train with Bernard, then try getting gud with a bow. You can one shot enemies without a helm so it can be nice and cheesey. Going mongolmode and taking out large groups of enemies using horseback archery is pretty easy. If you're face to face with an enemy, you can jump back to avoid their swings and sprint to create an opening.
792b02 No.14609856
>>14609321
>>14608771
>the retards in this thread are fucking cuckchanners
What a surprise.
d72a3a No.14609944
>>14608738
>successful blocking can incur major losses to health
That's not true
>NPC attack animations can start almost a half second after the players, and still end before, or interrupt the players- making stats way more important than skill, again
Depends on enemy skill level
>blurry vision from stamina loss and other quirky hit animations
"Managing stamina is too hard I'm a cuck please nerf!"
>extreme use of artificial difficulty in terms of health/skill of enemies
Don't fucking piss off enemies about your paygrade
>vanilla connects the number of saves you can make to an in game item (ignoring the millions of other reasons why a player may want to save a game in an open world)
Which you can craft as many as you want for free or buy, the only valid complaint against this is when the game crashes.
>best weapons/armor for endgame are easily found on the map with minimal effort
"Rewarding exploration in an open world game is lame"
>can't exit fullscreen mode without forcing it back to windowed, and then back again
…What?
>>14608837
Well you're wrong, and haven't bothered to play the game enough to understand how combat works. You didn't win your first combat, so now you're bitching here hoping people will tell you it's a shit game that you don't need to play.
>>14609059
>Some fucking brainlet gets a game and tries to play it according to his expectations, instead of adapting to the rules of the game and going by that.
Because people are braindead retards that don't want to learn, they just want "experiences" where they kill a bunch of dudes and feel good about themselves.
99ffa0 No.14610291
>>14608738
>he fell for the meme
e5e347 No.14610336
Even if you're complete shit at the combat, just grab some Bane potion, which should make fights incredibly easy for you. When you're earning 1k just off bandit gear alone, an extra 100 for the poison is nothing, assuming you're too shit to brew it yourself. The game's buggier than an AIDS march, but combat isn't among its problems.
723953 No.14610337
>>14609077
>blacksmith
>noodle arms
opinion discarded u dumfuk a blacksmith would probably be stronger than a man at arms in that period
cc6993 No.14610339
Why is OP complaining that the game is an RPG?
e5e347 No.14610342
>>14610337
Operative word here is "son." You don't swing the hammer, you work the bellows and run around getting charcoal and beer.
723953 No.14610347
>>14610342
>bellowswork is not strenuous and lengthy
>a prentice wouldnt be doing most of the beating especially considering the majority of a blacksmith's work would be low-skill ferrying at that time
>a prentice wouldnt be recieving much training on working steel anyway
the real operative word here is dumfuk
f4a3e6 No.14610420
>>14609354
Chain mail is pretty effective against stabs.
b66921 No.14610530
>>14610451
Don't pull that shit. People that think wearing armor or bringing a shield is larping end up getting other people hurt because of their own goddam negligence.
If you're going to go to something like what Berkeley or Charlottesville were, you should be wearing padded clothes, pads and guards, a helmet or steel cap under a hat, and ideally a shield and concealable blunt weapon. That's not larping; you're up against people that want to kill you, are paid to kill you, and are about as close to being above the law as you can get.
792b02 No.14610567
>>14610530
Going to "battle" with retards in the first place is the larping.
4a3a05 No.14610586
>>14609113
You can take on high level bandits the instant you learn proper swordfighting from Bernard. Armor optional.
The fucking irony is faggots like you popping up every KCD thread bitching about clunky combat and stats when none of you even bother to dig deep into learning how to fight well within the game's combat system. Don't fret however, the game still gives you OP bows and arrows so that you can skulk around like the shitter you are.
792b02 No.14610601
>>14610586
Are bows supposed to be easier than swords? I never got the hang of how to aim them well.
4a3a05 No.14610632
>>14610601
Yes, but bows are more stat and equipment dependent than melee combat. The arrow will fly where it's being pointed at, which is not at the center of the screen all the time, and is dependent on how well Henry controls the bow. If you draw and hold for too long it'll be nearly impossible to aim. Try going hare hunting to get the hang of it.
792b02 No.14610648
>>14610632
>Try going hare hunting to get the hang of it.
That's basically how I've leveled it up so far. Sometimes it takes me like 5+ arrows to hit a stationary hare though.
26aee9 No.14610653
>>14610601
You need to be at least level 5 in bow skill to even be able to hold the fucking bow properly and to not need forearm protectors, of course aiming the bow is going to be shit, especially if your first experience of having to use them is during the hunt with Hans - which is way too late to start grinding it. The instant you get to Rattay you need to start maxing out Herbalism and Hunting for tons of cash in addition to bow skill, strength, agility and vitality exp. This can be quite easily achieved by shooting at sheep or cows for the lower levels and, later, via poaching - just be careful that no one sees you. If you need aiming help just use the console to enable bow crosshair by entering wh_pl_showfirecursor 1. At higher skill levels you will even get an automatic zoom while aiming, and the damage from bows is always roughly twice the damage from melee weapons of equivalent level. At level 20 bow skill and agility you can even one shot guys with full face helmets if you're lucky enough that your arrow gets through their eye slits. Grinding archery in this game is a pain, but when you finally got gud it feels incredibly satisfying.
d72a3a No.14610664
>>14610601
They're better as long as you autisitcally spend the time to raise them up. A reasonable person would just learn swordsmanship.
26aee9 No.14610677
>>14610648
Hares are more difficult because of the very small target area/hitbox, but they are also pretty much blind and deaf and thus present an easier target at the same time. Red deer are easier to hit but they are also way more skittish. Which is why grinding hunting is great, to be an effective poacher you also have to be stealthy and barely make any noise, and this gets you used to plenty of other mechanics.
792b02 No.14610690
>>14610653
Why would you start grinding before you even have a horse to easily move around?
f97983 No.14610957
>>14609040
No, because the character you play is a scrublet who has never been trained for combat outside of some extremely basic.
Let me repeat this:
Henry does not know how to fight. He needs to train, much like you do, the player. Expecting him to be able to go toe to toe with anything and anyone and win are expectations as realistic as starting the game with the best horse and equipment in the game despite henry having no need or money for them.
f97983 No.14610963
>>14610601
Archery, much like in real life, takes practice to be good. And also much like in real life, a good archer is a fucking terror for melee infantry. They're death incarnate when they're on a horse to boot.
26fc24 No.14611067
Is this game actually any good or is the only good thing about it that the dev didn't include niggers.
518cb6 No.14611116
I had a thought the other night, what if KCD introduced Nioh's stance system? Maybe not stances, but something similar. A medium stance that is better for defense, a quick stance which is faster, consumes less stamina but hits less and a strong stance which does more damage, consumes more stamina and is slower.
>>14611067
Very good game, bought down by technical problems and being rushed out by the publishers.
>>14610653
Why does it take so fucking long to level? I've killed many hares, deer, boar, done archery competitions and I'm still only at level 3.
9c2a57 No.14611133
>>14610690
>not simply grind at all times
26aee9 No.14611354
>>14610690
As soon as you get to Rattay you can buy a horse yourself provided you have the money and care enough to walk to Ushitz, Merhojed or Neuhof. But yeah, just after the quest in which you get Pebbles is also a good time to start grinding, since some of your stats would have seen some improvement due to the main quests you have finished that you're no longer the weak as fuck pleb from the start.
26aee9 No.14611356
>>14611116
You can also buy some exp for bow and hunting from the Master Huntsmen at Rattay and Talmberg.
faac1a No.14611416
Exactly how detailed is the alchemy system in this game?
b1f1f2 No.14611423
>>14611116
yeah, what if kingdom cuck had a good combat system? Maybe one day one will be modded in, but until then the combat system is perfect and I can't wait for mods to fix it.
b78071 No.14611527
>>14608738
Everything you said was wrong except for the fullscreen/windowed, and I don't even know why you started bitchhing about that, I though the topic was combat you desperate fuck.
723953 No.14611781
hahaha fucking game softlocked again. stupid nigger ginger wont wake the fuck up and this is after i had to travel to talmberg and back to his stupid fucking hovel hideout because he didnt even spawn and now ive been waiting for two fucking days and hes been sleeping the whole time and i cant wake him up because why the fuck not and even hitting him with my sword doesnt do anything
and this after i was softlocked on that ratay patrol quest where time didnt fucking skip to night during the dice game
holy shit stupid fucking pseudoslavs cant even make a working game
792b02 No.14611818
>>14611416
It's not, but you have to do a tedious minigame to make potions.
ec4c2b No.14611900
This thread is fucking awful, your hobby isn't playing vidya it's shitting on vidya especially games that are popular, successful or trending.
Basically most of you here are hipsters.
e23256 No.14611978
>>14611900
Still a better hobby than visiting threads you hate and posting how you hate them.
518cb6 No.14611982
>>14611781
Sucks to hear. The game does autosave quite a bit though, so maybe you can reload. Its a real shame the game release months earlier than it should have done. It needs serious QA and testing.
c0f5ba No.14611984
Reminder (((Based Vavra))) is an antifa-loving jew.
e23256 No.14612026
ec4c2b No.14612068
>>14611978
I came into this thread to post about the game, then seeing the state of the thread what's the point? The rest of you here aren't going to talk about the game, you're not here for that, you're here just to be hipsters and wank each other off over who hates the game the most, it's the same with most /v/ threads these days. Every talk of vidya devolves into who can prove they hate a game the most. It's fucking pathetic.
518cb6 No.14612085
>>14612068
That's cuckchan for you.
792b02 No.14612125
>>14612068
So just talk about it, dumbass.
eb9888 No.14612182
>>14611984
>be white SJW kike/literal kike
>oy vey this fucking goy with a drop of jew blood somewhere in his family tree several dozen generations ago is making a game with absolutely no niggers! we absolutely need to shut it down
>rubs_hands.jpg
<aha! since one of us funded him, which he couldn't avoid anyway since he put his niggerless game on kikestarter - might as well try to meme that he is controlled opposition! that'll show those literal nazis on V!
You're the same faggot who have been lying for the past few KCD threads about there being a quest to protect kikes in the game, when there isn't even a single kike that is actually physically present in it except possibly the Hungarian literal faggot baron Istvan Toth who serves as the primary antagonist anyway. And even that is still a stretch.
0d60c3 No.14612196
a24adc No.14612198
>>14612196
really faggot? It's L.A. Noire.
>>14612182
>I must protect based vavra!
71e080 No.14612210
>>14612182
>self admitted kike makes a game funded by a billionaire kike who gives money to rapefugees
>omg wtf those raysiss goyim don't want to buy my game, better shill it harder on 8ch
ec2971 No.14612213
>>14612198
<whenever someone talks about KCD, i must lie about the game and its dev, cuz MUH GAMERGAYS!!!111.
0d60c3 No.14612244
>>14612213
I played Kingdom Come Sword Deliverance a bit.
It was damn boring.
>cutscenes, standing around because patrol, impossible combat, high drive usage when moving/looking around, lags on GTX 980 unless graphics are on low…
>>14612198
Thx faggot
cfd8af No.14612250
>>14612213
was cat having a stroke?
e23256 No.14612297
>>14612068
But than just coming to this thread to wank yourself off over how much better you are than this thread.
d2ed72 No.14612331
>>14612250
Probably a seizure.
ec2971 No.14612409
>>14612244
The high drive usage is the fault of cry engine. The weaksauce card doesn't help it either.
0d60c3 No.14612444
>>14612409
Wrong. Both times.
Crysis works fine at 60 fps!
ec4c2b No.14614601
>>14612297
I say this with no ego as one who is simply stating a fact. I am better than you.
792b02 No.14614658
723953 No.14614667
>>14611982
yeah i'm going to have to reload a save probably from before the whole investigation to be safe but i cant be bothered to put that much any effort into kcd rn tbh fam fml smh mlia
fe251a No.14614997
>>14611900
>>14612068
>>14614601
Basically Goons and SJWs shit up every game thread about a game made by a Conservative or at least someone who doesn't pander to their values. They pretend they hate it cause Vavra is a Jew since they have no shame adopting the points of the those they hate when it's convenient to taking down someone like Vavra.
Some of the bugs in this game though, like once you realize that you can level yourself up in the starting town by whacking the unconscious bodies of your fellow peasants it really takes the whole wind out from you about progression, but you don't really want to level past 14 anyways.
aea332 No.14615979
>>14614997
This. Their 89IQ plan seems to not work out, because its pretty obvious see >>14612213 . They only look more spastic than the Evolve shill.
aea332 No.14616003
>>14612444
Again. Its fucking Cryengine that isn't designed for very large game worlds as you can see with Star Citizen that needs a Super Computer to run properly. We also don't know how fucked scripting. What I do know for a fact that Crysis doesn't need so many elaborate scripts for managing a gorillion events like a RPG does.
7d3a47 No.14616130
Goddamn I pirated this a while ago and now I'm starting to think I should actually buy it, just because of the shills desperately trying to hurt the developer
d2a689 No.14619668
>>14609270
"ACTION" RPG
"ACTION" as in "In Attack on Titans 2, despite character stats and skills playing major roles, particularly against the more health-dense titans, the player's ACTIONS in positioning and timing play the most crucial role in taking enemies down."
"ACTION" as in "In SAO:Fatal Bullet, despite having enemies dozens of levels higher than you spawning just outside of your lv zone, the player's ACTIONS in utilizing terrain and gaming the enemy-spawn locations can net a patient lv10 player a victory over a lv45 enemy."
"ACTION" as in "In Demon's Souls/Dark Souls/Bloodborne/Dark Souls 3, despite the combat being heavily stat based and player Lv and stats playing a major role in player character movement and attack, it is up to a player's ACTIONS in utilizing terrain, memorizing shortcuts, recalling enemy spawn locations and especially careful observation of enemy attack patterns coupled with equally careful dodging and striking for any victory to be attained."
"ACTION" as in "In Armored Core/Gundam Breaker, swarms of enemies and even titanic enemies can deal intense damage very quickly and micromanaging the parts and stats of your mech are intensely important, yet despite this a player's ACTION in skillful dodging, terrain utilization and attack timing factor most heavily in gaining victory - even a well armed suit will be ruined quickly by poor piloting."
Then we get to KC:D's "action RPG" combat, wherein your skill, timing, and terrain usage matter
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
Because you don't have the right perks, the right Lv and the right stats yet to make the block you just skillfully timed…actually block. Your strikes are also slow despite the player's timing. Your blocks don't block, your attacks hardly attack and you certainly can't aim for piss. You need to level up, son. You know, like it's a typical turn-based RPG…except the entire mechanic of the game is supposed to heavily rely on player ACTION.
Oh, but don't worry! Because once you've gotten 1/3 to about halfway through the game you'll get your hands on Herod's Sword - the best sword in the game - and become sickeningly OP, just utterly decimating every enemy like you're a Terminator. It's the perks, the armor and the sword you got now, son, and those sweet, sweet Lv.
Yes, just play the game and get Herod's Sword and you, too, will BREAK THIS PIECE OF TRASH GAME IRREPARABLY
ceeba7 No.14619684
>>14619668
You sound like your father didn't beat you enough.
792b02 No.14619686
>>14619668
>Your blocks don't block
tl;dr: "I'm still upset that you have to finish the tutorial to fight"
d72a3a No.14619697
>>14619668
>Then we get to KC:D's "action RPG" combat, wherein your skill, timing, and terrain usage matter
>ABSOLUTELY NOTHING
I literally quit this game because I wasn't good enough to use all of those things to my advantage in a fight. You're full of shit.
d2a689 No.14619703
>>14619684
Nice argument
>>14619686
>tl;dr: "I'm still upset that you have to finish the tutorial to fight"
Anything to suck Based Dev's sack, amirite?
I bought this thing from the Kikestarter. Earl teir. I played it at launch. Everything the OP says is true regarding vanilla and no one can deny that.
When it comes to combat the only two excuses are
1. It's an (action) RPG so of course your actions don't matter compared to your stats. Why would you expect to block properly, let alone for your block to block damage, when you press "block"? And your sword would swing like a giant frozen log because ur jus a peasant duh
2. You're still early in the game and haven't gotten into it yet.
I went well past CSI pointless village and further into the game. The combat was still trash. Anons over here telling me "no u gotta run and keep running to build that running perk so you can run rite" or whatever garbage.
Either you anons are the actual shills or you people are so deluded and/or utterly ignorant as to what the point of ACTION is supposed to be in an ACTION RPG that you will willingly eat this crap thinking it's good.
And again, for all your "but you're just a peasant and need skill", just get like 1/3 to halfway through and become the godking Henry shredding armor like tinfoil. Tell me how that crap makes sense.
>inb4 u got gud by that point
get a few gud chromosomes before posting again
>>14619697
>I literally quit this game because I wasn't good enough to use all of those things to my advantage in a fight.
you just suck and don't know what you're doing. Why even reply to be if you're so retarded you can't tell when skill, timing and terrain matter in a game or not?
ceeba7 No.14619707
d2a689 No.14619713
>>14619707
>nice butthurt.
you gonna ask me if I'm mad next? Or make some remark about jimmies?
ddbb05 No.14619729
how am i supposed to level speech? do i actually have to talk to people? i dont want to because i have autism
d2a689 No.14619736
>>14614997
>Basically Goons and SJWs shit up every game thread about a game made by a Conservative
Oh stop eating ass, you bunch of faggots. It's not some grand conspiracy to dump on a game because it doesn't have nigs or was made by a Conservative (who made one of the Christian wives a potentially adulteress whore btw and yes I'm still angry about that but that's subjective).
Some anons trash a game en masse because they are faggots and soyboys, like all the bizarre hatred for Yoko Taro and Neir Automata the minute it got popular. Then the angsty posts we had during P5's huge break and the Connor Crew trying to save their lazy hack SJW asses from getting replaced by translators and translations which stick faithful to the source material. Don't forget all the failed attempts to make people hate Xenoblade 2.
But then there are games like this which, despite the gorgeous attention to detail in terms of its historical setting and other pieces, plays like trash, is a bugged out monstrosity needing Skyrim-teir recoding from players to fix the vanilla, has combat that is objectively terrible and easily broken in due time and doesn't even conclude its story with the fight the early part of the game hyped up. Although the combat is the next to worst part, really, second only to the bugs.
If I wanted to dodge, block or slash in Automata I pressed the button and I did it. I like that, that resposiveness, because in real life I might not be some MMA fighter but you bet your ass that when I throw a punch I don't take a minute to think about it before doing it.
Everyone was right to trash Dark Souls 2 when it ruined dodging and rolling by tying it too heavily to stats so that you start out taking damage from attacks that hit the AIR two feet from where you already rolled. But now people complaining about this in KCD makes them goons and useful idiots? Get drilled.
792b02 No.14619738
>>14619729
>implying an autist can level speech
792b02 No.14619759
>>14619753
>nourishment 117
Maybe if you stopped stuffing your face people would like you better.
d192e0 No.14619779
>>14619566
>No noble hauberk to go with the noble coif
>No leg plate to match the arm plate
>Not even some mail chausses for decent leg protection
>Bell helm on a look that's not man-at-arms tier
5/10, needs a lotta work.
ddbb05 No.14619786
>>14619759
pls no bully
>>14619779
we need more armor variety tbh. looked at mods for armor and all i saw was a Black (g) set that looks dumb and out of place
792b02 No.14619819
>>14619779
I do have all of those, but I choose not to wear them for noise sake.
d192e0 No.14619821
>>14619786
I'd rather have the armor pieces that use plate all share the same kind of shine first. For example: helms like the hounskull and arching bascinet have a different look to them but the german and italian ones match up just fine. It's this sort of inconsistency that really riles up my jim-jams.
5cdb58 No.14620098
>>14619821
It really bothered me that the game's Hounskull is very basic in terms of design and it looks very shitty once it gets dirty, plus it has very low charisma compared to the other bascinet derivatives.
d192e0 No.14620130
>>14620098
Yeah, makes no sense at all given how rare and valuable it is. Another thing that bothers me is the clipping on certain armor combinations- things like plate leg chausses with long hemmed gambesons make the latter clip into the former and not to mention certain composite chausses clip whenever you wear boots over them. I really hope Vavra addresses these issues because it's shit like this that really limit my fashion options.
f2f57d No.14620147
Wheres' those "big battles"?
66ce25 No.14620150
Does anyone have the "kcdcuck.jpg" Nexus comment screencap? And the screencap revealing that it was actually an anon just fucking around who typed that Nexus comment.
d192e0 No.14620161
>>14620147
They're only in the main quests but you can also come across smaller ones as random encounters.
f2f57d No.14620223
>>14620161
There's not a single "big battle" like advertised in the trailers. Why are you lying?
d72a3a No.14620237
>>14619703
>you just suck and don't know what you're doing. Why even reply to be if you're so retarded you can't tell when skill, timing and terrain matter in a game or not?
That's my point, I'm a dumb faggot and even I realize what he's saying is retarded. I loved the game up to a certain point, but he clearly took no time to actually understand the combat mechanics.
d192e0 No.14620302
>>14620223
But I literally just said they only take place during the main quests, how is that lying?
8727d3 No.14620451
>>14620302
they arent even big battles theyre very small engagements and beside that theyre so easy you cant even lose them unless you try
609fef No.14620686
>>14620223
There is a roughly 25vs25-45 one
>>14620130
>get the super hard to find barding
>muh secret one-of-a-kind horse armor
>fucking mane still clipping thru
Also where's my crossbow at?
ec4c2b No.14620701
>>14619753
You just need some work to not make your henry a fatty. Aesthetically he could go with a clean up as well, but I'm liking that plate and helmet.
R/8 my 'Enry's.
d2a689 No.14620851
>>14620237
>I'm a dumb faggot
okay then
>>14620719
Legends of Eisenwald
ad6863 No.14620861
>>14610347
>>14610342
>>14610337
Way I heard it, you play as the lazy son of a blacksmith who's only real interest is fugging the local barmaid.
609fef No.14620868
>>14620861
He also expresses interest in learning swordplay from ex-bandits and throwing shit at german nationals
6b261d No.14620883
>>14616003
>as you can see with Star Citizen
>Star Citizen
Really nigger? That things have to be dynamically loaded and unloaded is obvious but NOT WHEN TURNING AROUND AND NOT AT EVERY STEP.
IF YOU LET THE HARD DRIVE LIMIT THE FRAMERATE YOU'VE DONE SOMETHING SERIOUSLY WRONG!
The only way to solve this is good programmers.
d2a689 No.14620894
>>14620868
>throwing shit at german nationals
To be fair that's optional. Everything else you said was true, though. Not much of a Christian in any regard, though I wouldn't expect much from any game made these days.
609fef No.14620902
>>14620894
>go with the lads and throw shit at the jerries
>say n-no thank you
Define optional.
b1f1f2 No.14620934
>>14620883
>The only way to solve this is good programmers.
not even, you just need to limit how often the game is reading things from the hard drive. You want more things in memory, more pre-caching behind the scenes, better placement of assets this way you aren't pulling everything in at once, etc. It's a job for designers, programmers, and artists.
But then again, kingdom cuck has shown itself not to have anyone competent in these fields. Typical slav shit.
5cdb58 No.14620967
>>14620934
It's eurojank so it's somewhat understandable, although I wouldn't call it muh perfekt gaym or go out of my way to defend the game like reddit does. And since I played since release I was able to have some fun with it before they patched in the extra game breaking bugs.
8d76d8 No.14620987
>>14608996
>poked in the eye or slashed across the face by a retard
>no human can fight tru dat deez yt pepo raciss
Motherfucker do you own a pair of testicles? If you drove a dagger through their eye into the brain, that's a fight ending move. Anything less than that, adrenaline is a hell of a drug.
>>14609321
Okay you need to look up what the human body can survive because you're an idiot fleshpuppet. Stabbing someone in the torso doesn't kill them immediately in almost any circumstance unless you're really lucky or know what in fuck you're doing and get through this neat little thing we have called a SKELETON that PROTECTS OUR VITAL ORGANS.
>>14609354
>chain mail doesn't stop knives
You are retarded. Chainmail with the fuckin undergarments will stop any knife unless arnold schwarzenegger is the one stabbing you, and even then it's just going to be like getting punched because the knife ain't penetrating all that shit.
b1f1f2 No.14620988
>>14620967
Understandable, even expected, but unforgivable.
609fef No.14621030
>>14620987
Know what kidneys, liver, bladder, groin and neck have in common? No bone coverage. Lungs aren't all that hard to hit either. And I'd say it depends on the dagger and the stabbing point.
27ee64 No.14621066
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14621007
Baneposting will never get old.
9245a3 No.14621141
When's gonna happen next DLC?
8d76d8 No.14621475
>>14621030
Yeah, he said the back and the eyes though. If you want at the gut you're better off going from the front, from the back you'd want to reach around and get the neck anyways. The rib cage is harder to get through from behind. Also, chain mail, so you ain't gettin them guts either way.
4f69af No.14621629
All your complaints actually make me want to play the game
I'm worried my PC will be too shit to run it though
792b02 No.14621866
>>14621629
What's your specs?
e5e347 No.14622352
>>14621066
I'm crashing this cooking pot with no survivors.
864fcd No.14622385
>>14620861
That's an understatement, Henry is clearly a sociopath.
2b38e7 No.14622452
>>14622385
You can play as one, sure.
941912 No.14622519
>>14608738
>As far as I can tell combat is 90%+ stats
It's an RPG you autistic fuck. It's still plenty skill based even then. The stats just limit your skill ceiling until you level up.
>successful blocking can incur major losses to health
No it can't?
>NPC attack animations can start almost a half second after the players, and still end before
Different weapons have different speeds, you know.
1021b6 No.14624018
>>14608750
Yes it does. Niggers from hell even.
b84d7d No.14628378
>>14624018
There isn't enough tripping balls and going on crazy adventures in the game.
0c88b7 No.14628399
>>14622519
>successful blocking can incur major losses to health
>No it can't?
He means blocking and not perfect blocking. Yes, he probably doesn't even know that mechanic.
He's fucking retarded, but his own retardation is what garnered enough attention to bump a Kingdom Come thread this far, so let's just not take the retard seriously and discuss the game, I guess.
That's how it always works. Retards get most attention always. What can you do.
Bump.
d2a689 No.14629198
>>14628399
>retard retard retard
The game is terrible because of the disgusting amount of bugs, asinine save system and especially the trash combat being all but utterly reliant on stats over player action despite being an APRG - also that it just breaks and you become godlike before halfway through the game because of stats and equipment.
No "mechanic" fixes this
03dfcd No.14629358
>>14609740
>a single stab into the armpit where there is no armour
There is chainmail there.
03dfcd No.14629365
>>14619668
>AOT
>GOOD
That game sucks. It has auto-aim and magicaly flying gear. The Tribute game is 1000 times better.
03dfcd No.14629371
>>14619736
The only objective thing is that you are objectively a faggot for stating your shit opinions as facts.
3962c0 No.14629441
>>14629371
But what that anon said wasn't an opinion, the combat is stat based as opposed to skills. You can't "git gud" no matter how hard you tried, you just grindding for exp and stats.
ae9379 No.14629448
The worst part of the game is the title; just Kingdom Come would've been fine.
I suppose they included Deliverance because one of the most important plot point of the game was about delivering a sword.
4791b3 No.14629458
>>14629441
So it was a figment of my imagination when I was chain parrying Bernard 5 times in a row in early training sessions, gotcha.
3962c0 No.14629508
>>14629458
>training session
Peoples are bragging about doing well in tutorial mode now?
2b38e7 No.14629517
>The monastery part
I appreciate what they were trying but fuck is it dull.
4791b3 No.14629567
>>14629508
>I havent played the game: the post
172259 No.14630096
>>14629517
You can just sneak in (savescum a bit by saving beforehand) and just find the guy with the dice.
d2a689 No.14630747
>>14629458
>training sessions
>with Bernard
>in a gated area which, like a tutorial, encourages a certain mechanic before you move on
>not actual enemies in the field
>not multiple enemies at once
>>14629448
I didn't even consider that, actually. That's really embarrassing
172259 No.14630770
So yeah if anyone is thinking of getting 1.4 don't, 1.3 is playable and doesn't have bugs which only exist in 1.4.
2b38e7 No.14632773
>>14630770
What does 1.4 introduce and/or fix?
b84d7d No.14634026
>>14632773
Right well in 1.3 I could actually see and play cutscenes for starters, now cutscenes skip and the game itself just breaks down after the intro. So i can't really tell you what it fixes, so I'm sticking with 1.3
2fefed No.14634077
>>14629198
Saving is a non issue. Just go to bed. Or use the "Save & Quit" option. Or use the shnapps. I don't get faggots complaining about this. Do you want babby quick saves or something?
As for the bugs, I'll give you the game is indeed buggy and hopefully most bugs can be ironed out. My biggest gripe is the performance, really.
And as for the combat itself, I was making the point that perfect blocks don't drain stamina and indeed work to avoid getting hit. Consecutive hits, such as combos, require you to just take a few step backs. If you have issues with this then obviously you haven't played the game enough or you're retarded.
2b38e7 No.14635263
>tfw main quest bugged at what I imagine was the finale
JUST
Pirate copy and on GOG so I got what was coming, but at least I have a steam version. Should I go with just 1.3 or 1.3.3/4? Maybe even 1.4 but I've heard that is buggy as well. I've also decided to never give Warhorse a penny for their shoddy work.
28873c No.14636522
>>14635263
1.4.2 solved the issues that came with 1.4 supposedly. Give it a shot. Pirate a repack with the latest version.
2b38e7 No.14640436
>>14636522
I went with 1.3.4 and good enough, my saves transferred over from the GOG version to the "Steam" version.
Might try out the 1.4 updates.
717415 No.14640642
>>14610957
>Forced tutorials are OK when the game aligns with my political beliefs
7cf862 No.14644484
anyone use the lightly armored perk? if so, whats your gear set up? The game appears to be VERY odd in what it considers to be light armor, with some items that conform to the perk being much heavier than ones that dont.
cc38c0 No.14644530
>>14640642
It's not a tutorial, it's training and development. I don't get why some people are so butthurt about this ga-
>aligns with my political beliefs
oh right, they're injecting their politics into it. Gotta #resist those eastern european natzees at every turn.
717415 No.14644819
>>14644530
>Explains commands and inputs that you could just know by reading the manual
>Not a tutorial
>Locks them behind completing it
>Not forced
I added the political component deliberately so hopefully some of you niggers reflect on the fact that a game can be flawed while being apolitical/prowhite. It is known that SJW rethoric implies a shit game but the reverse is not necessarily true. A game can be shit and not have SJW shit on it. It's Logic 101, but then a dev comes along, does the impressive feat of not putting whites in the gutter and suddenly ya'll get blind to it and all is forgiven.
ff1927 No.14644908
>>14644819
That's really exaggerated. It's like saying the textbox in Ocarina of Time when you get any item is a tutorial because it tells you how to equip it. And we're talking about basic items like the sword, which in the case of Kingdom Come you don't need any tutorial for.
>Locks them behind completing it
Perfect block is an acquirable skill, like Samus getting the morph ball. No one complained about getting the morph ball from an item instead of having it from the start.
>I added the political component
To make a shitty strawman for a point no one made for an argument no one needs. People have shat on apolitical games ever since they first picked up a controller/keyboard.
b9ed92 No.14645441
>>14644819
Don't give a SHIT about /pol, my political leanings are likely quite different from the majority here (yes the Holocaust happened). So here's my non political review:
This game is indie trash. Buggy indie trash. It needs at least 6 months of patches and DLC like every Western RPG. Pay $€19.99 for the GOTY version in a sale. Its not the coming of videogame Christ.
And fuck it I hate how people worship developers.
025872 No.14645652
4a3a05 No.14645680
>>14644908
I wouldn't bother arguing with these shitters. Their sole purpose here is to shitpost and to farm (you)s, as countless anons have raised counterpoints before but they wilfully ignore it. Just filter and move on.