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File: 43912d2a32288e9⋯.png (136.51 KB, 220x279, 220:279, Halo_4_box_artwork.png)

f8af3d No.14606338

At what point does a video game become fan-fiction?

Does it happen whenever one (or more) of the original story writers leave the team or are replaced, or is it not fan-fiction until an entirely new team altogether is behind the game?

e212f5 No.14606440

>>14606338

Shadow of War.


28d292 No.14606465

When you try to create a X-universe story instead of creating a story in X-universe. Story comes before the dressing, but must still adhere to its structure.


441ed1 No.14606469

File: 9fdb7b0aa103935⋯.jpg (89.93 KB, 674x960, 337:480, 9fdb7b0aa10393549bd1830594….jpg)

When I no longer enjoy it.


35bb63 No.14606472

When gay shit starts happening and nobody sane in the game universe is telling them to stop it.


1472c9 No.14606487

File: 8d58524c7c92007⋯.jpg (66.14 KB, 640x360, 16:9, fe x smt.jpg)

File: 21b97b99b9cf5c6⋯.png (1.14 MB, 1172x1012, 293:253, smt x fire emblem fault.png)

Ironically it's when someone who isn't a fan of the game personally directed it


6f1aa3 No.14606508

>>14606338

when the orginal creator(s) are gone. Or when it officially ends and it gets brought back with an entirely new story line (Dragon Ball and Halo)


6f1aa3 No.14606516

>>14606508

Also star wars including the prequels, not just 7 and 8. bullshit lucas had the prequels in mind during the production of the originals


323643 No.14606517

>>14606338

When you don't even bother to make interesting characters and just make what your series in known for ad nauseam. So, Nier automata.


1472c9 No.14606532

File: e2db28a98361d9a⋯.png (44.11 KB, 310x396, 155:198, 1379128177688.png)

>>14606517

Got mad that people called you out for dropping the game after ending A?


508e70 No.14607320

File: b693d91730f43a5⋯.jpg (116.81 KB, 650x913, 650:913, red s.jpg)

Some games start as fan fiction than ascend to games later. Crazy shit, fam.


4c0683 No.14607339

File: 9f658474e6f6aab⋯.png (1.18 MB, 1500x700, 15:7, god of soy.png)

>>14606338

It can also happen while the same people are in charge. pic related


346de6 No.14607376

File: 7387968cffae344⋯.jpg (146.45 KB, 800x993, 800:993, Original Masterpiece.jpg)

File: 64d9b1cc7d33c27⋯.png (899.63 KB, 800x968, 100:121, Garbage Fanfic.png)

File: da50e833ba26764⋯.png (2.8 MB, 1060x1500, 53:75, Spawn of Satan.png)

>>14606338

>Does it happen whenever one (or more) of the original story writers leave the team or are replaced?

That depends on the new writers. If they're shit, then it's fanfic.

>Or is it not fan-fiction until an entirely new team altogether is behind the game?

If it is already fanfic tier, then it will get drastically worse.


7f961f No.14608140

>>14606338

If the story of a series is now being written by someone who grew up with the series, it's fanfiction.

Have you visited the Gamefreak building in Pokemon Sun/Moon?


302df0 No.14608164

>>14606338

Fall Out New Vegas is as bad fan fiction as it gets.


480da7 No.14610067

Categorically, any officially released video game isn't fan fiction.

Anything else is subjective.


6a8842 No.14610077

File: 74e6dd6ab9aedcc⋯.jpg (192.07 KB, 900x833, 900:833, Sakurai, no story mode, fu….jpg)

>>14606338

When the director gets real asshurt over his flick being leaked into Youtube.

>>14606487

>Sailor Moon character as an icon

>The anime being viral on tumblr due to creator being pozzed and adding shit like the tranny guy having no gender.

Am I seeing a pattern?


3767cd No.14610118

File: 37322b87eca10cf⋯.webm (15.99 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Bungie_and_343_Dev_Compar….webm)

>>14606338

>At what point does a video game become fan-fiction?

Ironically, when a series stops focusing on pleasing it's fanbase.

As with what happened with Halo and Star Wars, Microsoft and disney didn't actually care about creating a good product. They just cared about pushing out "The next installment" and merchandising up the wazoo the series so that they could get as massive as a market appeal as they could and bring in money they easiest way possible. This also happened with God of War where they dropped the "hack and slash" gameplay to go for the "third-person narrative" adventure they've been making for the past 5 years and has been proven to by a money maker for them.


dd92f5 No.14610122

>>14610077

What's the deal with that? I heard that some stuff got leaked, but I never saw it, and I can't find anything about it online.


e2fe56 No.14610137

File: 446852f17e56236⋯.jpg (174.4 KB, 850x537, 850:537, 1433818404341-2.jpg)


cba50d No.14610140

>>14606469

Only right answer


2ea256 No.14610143

File: cc467323867b005⋯.jpg (211.71 KB, 1280x840, 32:21, siegfried and brunhilde.jpg)

File: 659bfd4c352ab13⋯.jpg (48.46 KB, 348x432, 29:36, Siegfried & Brunhilde.jpg)

File: a5986451d9053e8⋯.jpg (84.3 KB, 736x920, 4:5, siegfried.jpg)

File: 52877d6a38b1a91⋯.jpg (46.85 KB, 474x700, 237:350, Wagner_02_Siegfried-Brunhi….jpg)

File: 38a9e0df7250592⋯.jpg (264.22 KB, 396x515, 396:515, Wotan & Brunhilde - Occult….jpg)

>>14607339

As far as I'm concerned, Kratos died at the end of God of War 3. His story arc was complete.

Why couldn't they just have a completely different protagonist in the new game? They could have agknowledged that the stuff Kratos did happened, but have it show the aftermath of the fall of Olympus and how it's got the Norse gods all worried about the coming of Ragnarok.

They could have did game where you play as Siegfried or Brunhilde from the Ring of Nibelung. Have it be different from Kratos' story in that it's really about trying to save the gods instead of destroying them.


e0e98e No.14610169

It's not literally fan fiction unless it was written by someone with no connection to the company that owns the IP.

It's fan-fiction-TIER though, if it retcons shit from past games and turns the protag into a Mary Sue and makes everything BIGGER and BADDER to try to one-up the original developers.


29e68e No.14610183

File: 98e55259322585f⋯.gif (117.02 KB, 176x193, 176:193, 45d3033ceff87691dfc07670fe….gif)

>>14610077

>>The anime being viral on tumblr due to creator being pozzed and adding shit like the tranny guy having no gender.

Weren't most of the bad guys faggots? The extra sailor sentai introduced being lesbians? Are we talking about something new, if not the same fucking thing?


d2b0ff No.14610189

File: 61349cb2875e818⋯.mp4 (3.2 MB, 852x480, 71:40, masseffectdiedforthis.mp4)

File: c41d57b96132f13⋯.png (4.02 KB, 355x142, 5:2, index.png)

When none of the original team has worked on the game, when the new team views the original games as a nuisance and obstacle, when the new game is supposed to be contemporary with the source material but the source material doesn't mention the new game because the new game was made after-the-fact, when the new team views lore-rape as their modus operandi, when the new game aspires for a new fanbase, when the game's new fanbase is unfamiliar with the original material and only bought it because they're loyal to the developer…


e0e98e No.14610208

File: 5a7915ed46b8799⋯.jpeg (59.89 KB, 500x375, 4:3, he's already dead.jpeg)

>>14610118

It hurts watching that.


bd15b9 No.14610210

File: f4811c498c974f4⋯.png (237.11 KB, 1000x1000, 1:1, Tomm Hullett.png)

>>14606338

When you let a community manager weasel his way up the foodchain while being a fucking lying sack of shit without an ounce of experience have the ears of the suits to have him his way with the series, same thing that happened with Silent Hill (Hullett was also apparently happy that Silent Hills by Kojimbo, Del Taco, and some of the old Silent Hill alumni was cancelled)


29e68e No.14610220

>>14610183

With that in mind does anyone actually like Sailor Moon, I mean beyond the original Toei show and merchandise, panty shots? It's just Sentai for cunts.


346de6 No.14610237

>>14610210

>happy that Silent Hills by Kojimbo, Del Taco, and some of the old Silent Hill alumni was cancelled

Stop. Don't remind me of that masterpiece that was thrown in the trash because of corporate dickery.


f789a7 No.14610263

If the original writer leaves, it becomes fan-fiction.

If there was a team of writers, if only one of them leave, it becomes fan-fiction.

The original creators and writers are what make a game. Everything else is just corporate suits pushing the franchise ahead without direction.

>>14610237

It was "made" by Kojimbo, a fraud, so it was never going to be a masterpiece.


bd15b9 No.14610304

>>14610237

It wouldn't have been good anon, just pointing out that a gigantic copycat fraud is happy that a plagiarizing hack who managed to get some of the old Team Silent Hill devs back together, that he couldn't even manage to do, is gloating about it.


68d4e2 No.14610393

File: 9ead9ced9786792⋯.webm (3.98 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Vergil (Devil May Cry 3) ….webm)

File: 7bfcc7b1cd6e242⋯.webm (11.51 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Vergil (DmC- Devil May Cr….webm)

>>14606338

All that matters is if the games are being made by competent people who respect the original vision.

DMC2 was a shit show because Capcom rushed it out the door without getting Team Little Devils back. DMC2 didn't work because without proper direction they were only able to put together what they thought people liked about DMC1. The only orders they possibly could have had were to make DMC2 cooler then DMC1, so they ditched the camp, and tried to make Dante more "Badass" and serious.

But Itsuno was still determined to fix this mistake and redeem DMC, so he went right to Kamiya for advice on just what Devil May Cry should be. That plus Itsuno and his teams own Style is what made DMC3 so great dispute not being directed by Kamiya himself. You could argue that in the end Itsuno ended up making DMC better then what it would have been if Kamiya ended up making DMC2.

On the flip side you have Ninja Theory who are all pretentious, They didn't respect what the original Devil May Cry games were. They didn't understand the heart and soul of Devil May Cry, they made the exact same mistakes with DmC that DMC2 had. They made things too serious and too edgy, thinking that would improve the series. There attempts at making things cooler were only superficial, They made Dante Half Angel AND Half Demon because being both is superior to being just one, and that is completely missing the point of Devil May Cry because the series is about how important one's humanity is, and that is lost when the main character isn't even a fucking human anymore.

Ninja Theroy doesn't understand nor care why people didn't like DmC They think what they made is better, and they just see the original fans as whiny people who hate change.


b80a87 No.14610414

>>14607376

>pics related

Its true, but I still enjoyed BW and WoL for what they were. The latter especially. The story was cheesy as all fuck but the missions were immensely fun. I've played it around 5-7 times (can't quite remember) over the last 6 years, once a year until I beat it in 2016 or 2017 on brutal.

They really created a lot of fun missions in that game.


2f575c No.14610415

Never, because that's not what the term 'Fanfic' means you mongoloid.


b80a87 No.14610419

>>14606532

>ending A

topkek, I remember an anon who made a wall of text shitting on Nier Automata, and then later revealed it to be hearsay and it ended with him just bitching about how he couldn't get past the tutorial stage on the hardest difficulty and instead of lowering it, he came to bitch on /v/ about the game's quality as a whole

I find it funny that everyone who shits on tomato ends up being one of these retards aside from the people who've played the original NIER, they tend to have legitimate criticisms


3767cd No.14610510

File: b39d4984ddd0a22⋯.webm (10.13 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, Cuphead_-_Journalism_Game….webm)

>>14610419

>him just bitching about how he couldn't get past the tutorial stage


37f933 No.14610544

>>14606532

>Got mad that people called you out for dropping the game after ending A?

I dropped it there, and I don't know why you think that would matter. I got my first ending, thought the game was kind of short, found out about the other endings after some googling, and then realized that I didn't actually care enough to start again. If the first 1/4th of the game wasn't good enough to make me want to play the rest, why should I expect the quality to improve? Was the first run-through the weakest or something? I enjoyed the scenery, but that was about it. The difficulty balance was weak, and I personally couldn't get invested into the story or lore. More playthroughs just sounded like more backtracking, and I was already pretty burned out from the constant crashing and other issues. Sure, you know more about the story than I learned in my time playing, but I think I got a pretty good idea of what the gameplay was like. I am still convinced that it was an okay game I don't hate it. I just don't really love it with some pretty good looking levels that wouldn't have gotten such a positive reception without 2b's lewd ass It's the thing I remember people getting most excited for honestly.


b80a87 No.14615033

>>14610544

>ending A

most of the endings are basically just checkpoints from what I've heard anon

>don't know why you think that would matter

why do you think? People generally don't care much to hear the opinions of people who didn't bother to finish a game. Yours are basically just first impressions, but at least you're not shitposting like most people do




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