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Some news surfaced that the solo alliance fag from the last thread might be Tyrannus under a new name

>>14593422

What realm are we on?

>>14593579

K3

the realmlist doesn't matter, just use the one that gives you the best latency sicne they all bring you to the same servers

>wow server shill is back

christ move on you sad sack of shit

>>14593591

Ah ok cool

>>14593697

Yeah just a heads up that if you roll alliance the safety net there doesn't seem to exist because none of the threads have had them posting so assumed dead

>>14593422

>mods are cracking down more on K3 than K1

I get the impression more mods on K3 are burgers than euros, because most euros I play with don't give a flying crap about this, it's always the burgers who throw a fit.

>>14594558

I find that hard to believe. I would think euros with all their hate speech laws would be the ones who flip out over nigger.

>>14594568

The word doesn't mean shit in Europe.

>>14594602

Bad example then, but you even mention mudslimes in a negative light, and you have police at your door.

>new private server launches

>massive lag and crashes for 3 days

>stabilizes and players start progressing

>something involving a tranny, chinks, or a chat log leak happens

>server has mass exodus and withers away

repeat ad infinitum every fucking year

i got sick of rerolling when I noticed the pattern

>>14594983

>>14595045

>Caring about your education

Get a load of these casuals

>>14595570

At this point we're jsut playing to start shit

We;ve already done like 4 gank squads on horde

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1U8Qbd6XrJfvnSo4MykPstUgXUHVTxQRLzrn55drmQiY/edit?usp=sharing

INFINITY GUILD BANK DOC LIVE

>>14593422

>they're still falling for this meme

Nrb here.

Going Alliance, is the Folly guild kicking or still a meme as per OP?

>>14596941

Honestly there has been no word from anyone. There were lots of talks about <folly> but come release day nothing got mentioned about them except "where are they?"

Granted for <Infinity> we used some good goy to get the charter signed, which then we kicked the good goys out because fuck normalfags.

But yeah <Folly> is MIA presumed dead. Most activity seems to be Horde, maybe one or two people pop into the thread outside the sperg that go "Hey we saw you guys killing shit in westfall"

>>14596941

I made it to level 5 on release and quit because nobody else was on for Alliance and because it was a grindfest. Add Oldman if you're sticking with Alliance, but there is no guild or grouping yet.

>>14596955

Stop acting like such a kike shill, holyshit.

>>14597041

>Stop trying to actually make things work

we used 3 guys because at launch we only had contact with 7/10 people needed to make a guild. Not like we kept them around like Iron Guard supposedly did

This sucks.

Classic when?

>>14598756

shame it's dead and gummy will kill the server for classic despite being a TBC one

How do i get a mount lads?

just keep questing?

>>14601840

level 40 and a lot of gold

Never played WoW before, would just questing around by myself be any fun or not?

>>14601959

It does go quicker with people and with the density of people on the server. give it a whirl and see how you feel about it honestly.

>>14601959

if you hurry and get to barrens you should see a density of people.

starter areas actually has mobs that arent camped 24/7 right now.

>>14601840

If you don't know, you probably wont have gold until you hit 60.

On the related note, can anyone tell me how the AH economy is on the server? :^)

>>14602039

>mount gold

>till 60

40 mount is EZ

>>14602057

Depends. I don't recall the last time I've had enough gold for a mount at 40.

>Rogue, LW/Skinning, Got mount at ~43

>Warrior, Mining/BSing, got mount at ~45

>Mage, Tailoring/chanting, got mount at ~48 thanks to someone else covering a decent chunk of it

>>14602416

don't buy all your skills and grind too

Starting to regret choosing to play paladin since i've never played wow before should've chose something easier

>>14602703

What are you having problems with? Paladins might be a bit slower at leveling up but with their healing and mana regen they arent that difficult to play.

>>14602733

Mainly feels like everything the quests lead me to kill are too hard to kill I can manage one at a time but die as soon as a second gets on me, Feels like I do very little damage to anything. I'm also stuck in burning steppes now for 30 mins because I get 1hit as soon as i move (lvl10)

>>14602753

Thats generally the case with other classes also. The alliance area has some pretty harsh group mobs since they are so grouped up together, like in Loch modan with the troggs.

Horde actually has it easier when it comes to questing. The only one time I can say its like this with the horde is the undead starting zone in a crypt area where all the damn zombies and banshees are huddled up close together.

But if you're level 10 you should start making your way to westfall. Also talk to any class trainers at level 10 you can learn new skills from a quest or get nice items.

As for playing a paladin, paladins cant do much until you're a bit higher level, your class is mostly just auto attacks with seals to buff yourself.

What you should do is get a big meaty weapon and follow the Retribution talent path, thats the DPS for paladins and there is a seal skill in that tree that can make you attack TWICE by a proc, which is great with a big weapon.

When you get a bit tougher and reach 30 or 40 you can feel free to respec into a healer, tank or keep on dpsing. Also Burning steppes is a high level area, you wanna get the hell outta there, hearth stone out if you have to anon.

>>14602822

Thanks for the help, And yeah I noticed had to wait 30 mins for the stone to recharge but I'm finally out now

>>14602822

To add to this, Paladins are a bit rough in the case that they lack ranged moves, so you have to facepull mobs. What you want to do is if you get aggro from multiple mobs, attack one, run away while still attacking that one mob until the other mob(s) return to their normal spot, then kill the mob, healing as needed. Like other physical damage dealers, Paladins are incredibly weapon-dependent at low levels. It can actually be worthwhile to buy an upgrade if the price is right, which it commonly is at this point in the server's life.

>>14602822

Pretty much this. You're going to need blue weapons basically the entire time you are leveling.With green weapons it's good to upgrade every 5 levels but with blue, you can upgrade every 10.

If you lack the funds, do what I did. Go around to multiple high level players and beg for small amounts for silver for (((Training))) and just use that to upgrade your equip. Don't buy armor unless you can get str pieces super cheap on the AH.

>>14602877

>>14602822

Turns out I was having problems because I didn't have abilities,doing a lot better now thanks

>>14602983

Yeah, class trainers will have new stuff every even-numbered level. It's a good idea to get them all immediately until you're experienced enough to know which are useful and which aren't.

>>14602057

>40 mount is EZ

Obviously, for us that have played before. But I'm saying if the guy is so new he don't know how to get a mount, he's not gonna know how to maintain high gold either.

>>14603403

I just realized anon basically gets his mount free because lol Paladin

>>14603814

oh yeah…nice! :^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^)

>>14602877

Try and get your hands on a weapon called " the pendulum of doom". It is a 4.0 swing time two handed axe that turns paladins seal of command into a god tier attack that is basically on permanently. It profs like 75% of the time with that weapon on. It turns a decent DPS seal into a high caliber shotgun that can two hit mobs at the level cap and enough crit.

>>14602703

Color me unsurprised. Paladins are the most boring class in the entire game. With zero offensive potential and no ranged pulls. If you play a Paladin you are obligated to go engineer because you need all those items to make your class less retarded, even just having cheap dynamites for ranged pulling makes a huge difference.

>>14602753

No worries, you're doing everything right. Paladins just have the worst offense in the entire game. You see, Paladins used to be an offensive class during WoW beta but in the last phases the design was taken over by two autistic EQ manchildren called Furor and Tigole who absolutely hated hybrid classes (they bitched about niche competition) to the point that they once staged EQ server-crashing protests to throw a tantrum over Paladin tanking being a viable thing. I am not shitting you. These guys, shortly before WoW was launched, completely gutted all the offense out of the Paladin class and turned it into basically a pure support in plate, except you can also tank, sort of. So, you're not doing anything wrong. You're just living the Paladin experience in vanilla. If you want your kill speed to pick up, get 5/5 Reckoning and use a /sit macro whenever the mob is about to hit you so that you always get crit. This way you get double (more if your weapon is slower than the mob's attack speed, and so the slowest 2Hs are strongly recommended) the attacks against mobs. You can also grab Divine Strength, Spiritual Focus, and Consecration on the Holy tree. It will give you slight aoe damage while you melee enemies. The best AoE damage you can have as a Paladin is generally Consecration, reflective (blessing of sanctuary + holy shield + shield spike + force reactive disk shield, mostly - maybe retribution aura and thorns/imp fire shield buff too), and engineering AoE (goblin sapper charge, dynamite) along with equipping a Ravager at 50ish.

By the way, One-Handed Specialization is a misnomer, it actually gives you +10% to all damage while you equip a one-hander, including spell damage and engineering items and everything.

The best way to quickly do the Paladin grind though is to just run dungeons as a healer or tank. Solo grinding quests speed is awful until you abuse Reckoning.

>>14602822

>Thats generally the case with other classes also.

This guy is a retard. No one has it as bad as a Paladin. Priests, Druids, Rogues, and Warriors may have a lousy time grinding, but they are still much, much better than Paladins. A number of classes grind extremely fast, played right.

>>14603814

lol Warlock too.

>>14604572

46.666% chance, actually. It's because Seal of Command is a 7 procs per minute ability and it scales off of weapon damage so slower weapons are better (or weapons that proc special attacks, like Jeklik's Crusher, The Nicker, Halberd of Smiting, Kang the Decapitator, etc). If you can, try to stack high crit too, because vengeance makes a big difference in seal of command DPS. Also Seal of Command itself can crit and it uses melee crit chance. The rare Seal of Command double crit (ie. crit the melee, proc command (which scales off of the melee crit's damage), and crit command too, which has extremely low odds of happening tbh) actually does some heavy damage.

Seal of Command does much worse damage than provoking Reckoning procs all the time, but you can and definitely should use both while swinging the slowest weapon you can find, unless you wanted to go consecration+prot for the aoe damage.

>>14607107

>Druids, Rogues, and Warriors may have a lousy time grinding

I'd say druid is in the top 3-4 of classes that have the easiest time leveling/questing/solo grinding.

>>14607217

This. It's a little slow until you hit 20 and get catmode, then you just tear through everything with zero downtime.

Yo I haven’t played vanilla WoW before, if i were to start what would be the ideal race/class combo for Horde, and does the guild need/prefer any particular classes?

>>14607266

we could uses priests

>>14607266

Mage, priest, shaman are all extremely safe bets as far as supply/demand is concerned. Both for <Infinity> and horde as a whole.

>>14607266

Ideal race/class combos:

Shaman: Tauren (War Stomp -> spellcast is fucking nuts and +5% health is good too)

Priest: Undead (WotF and Devouring Plague ftw) or Troll (Shadowguard and Hex of Weakness are criminally underrated in PvP; also they are the best shadow damage dealers by far thanks to shadowguard's damage and insane scaling)

Mage: Undead, accept no substitutes.

Rogue: Undead (if you want to gank Priests and Warlocks, but you can also use Glimmering Mithril Insignia trinket, PvP trinket, and/or Shadow Reflector engineering trinket) or Orc (if you want to gank alliance Rogues and Paladins).

Warrior: Orc for PvE maybe (axe skill), but Tauren (War Stomp, +5% health) or Undead (WotF is slightly overkill, but it will drive enemy warlocks and priests nuts, also Cannibalize and shadow resist can be nice) otherwise.

Druid: Tauren (stompcasts are great, but really it's Tauren only anyway)

Warlock: Undead (WotF wins mirror matches) or Orc (stun resist helps a lot)

Hunter: Orc (stun resist against Engineers, Rogues, Paladins, and Warrior charge/intercept, command also helps with BM spec) probably. Trolls are overrated, but technically the superior pick for PvE. Berserking is overrated though.

Also, be prepared for tons of grinding. WoW is an autistic, repetitive grindsim for the most part.

>>14607217

they do but they are extremely susceptible to ganking. The fastest way to kill things is catform and if i attack orange mobs i can be brought down to 30% easy.

So heal while you fight, i hear you say. Because shifting in and out of cat form eats mana and when you have to kill 50+ mobs you get into a rhythm of kill,heal,kill.

Bear is safer but takes longer to kill things. Sometimes it takes less because of nasty auto attack and maul crits.

>>14607281

i thought mage was one of the classes servers have shitloads of because they are op in pvp.

>>14604581

>dem posts

I need to get some Indonesian e-friends and get them to rant about chinks

they're even funnier than nips ranting about nogs

>>14607399

>they are extremely susceptible to ganking

After lvl 30 druid gets travel form and becomes the hardest class to gank in the game though (other than paladin with bubble+HS off cooldown).

>i thought mage was one of the classes servers have shitloads of because they are op in pvp.

There are a lot of mages around but the demand for mages is also high. A lot of mages are just someone's alt that they use to grind money for their main. Also <Infinity> is lacking in mages right now.

>>14607107

Tempted to start over as something more fun to play honestly but I've already got to level 13 on this and don't want it to be a waste

>>14607395

I think i'll probably roll an undead mage, I was considering that anyways. Are vanilla mages a pain to level or are they pretty decent in PvE? If they are, I might consider playing warlock instead.

>>14607614

Mages have high damage output and are easy to solo content with but have high downtime because you need to stop and drink often (drinks are conjured so they're free but as mage the conjure water spell is rarely the best drink you can get for your lvl which sucks).

Warlocks are faster and easier to lvl with less downtime and they get a free mount at lvl 40.

If you're willing to put in the effort to read up on AoE grinding strategies and locations though mage leveling becomes a completely different beast and a contender for best leveling class.

>>14607399

But if you're catform you can always be the ganker. Your stealth is equal to a Rogue's, Vanish notwithstanding.

>>14607614

The downtime starts off unpleasant. Use mage armor asap (you get it level 34) and gear up spirit religiously. Don't worry so much about gearing int. You have those mana consumable gems for when you're in a pinch and need extra mana. Focus on spirit for lower downtimes. Mages do grind very well later on though, esp. if they can aoe grind.

Warlocks otoh probably have the easiest time grinding right from the start, played right (basically grind multiple mobs simultaneously with DoTs and split the aggro between your pet and yourself, and use Life Tap + Bandages to regen instead of eating or drinking, later on you can also DoT a mob while you fear it). Never grind one mob at a time as a Warlock or your grind speed will be slow and shit. Warlocks excel in killing 2-5 mobs simultaneously. Also always level First Aid. Bandages are a must-have for any half-decent Warlock.

>>14609373

Goy I have a special offer for you

>>14609617

Lets hear it

>>14609727

Engineering is not a good way to make money, nor is being a priest

>>14609735

I'll loan ya a gold for the low down payment of 19.99 plus tip

Really though I'll throw ya something

>>14593422

I wanted to play a few months ago but you faggots didn't give me an invite after asking for days.

>>14609789

ask now

>>14609735

>Engineering is not a good way to make money, nor is being a priest

Aquadynamic Fish Attractor is the best fishing lure in the game and it's a low level engineering item.

Ornate Spyglass is another desirable engineering item, esp in battlegrounds.

Flame and Ice Deflector are backpack items that give you damage absorption shields that don't share a cooldown with potions or anything.

Discombobulator Ray' is a free slow and unmount.

Dynamite is also very handy.

And of course you have guns, scopes, and ammo, as well as trading engineering items from one type of engineer to another (goblin engineers really like having gnomish engineering items, for instance).

>>14609795

"Wildride" < — My char, MrBones was taken.

>>14609735

>Engineering is not a good way to make money

Protip: Sell Deadly Blunderbusses. They're required for a low-level quest which has excellent rewards for every class, and thus sell like hotcakes.

>>14607107

>>14607217

I'd say that leveling ease goes as follows, easiest to hardest, presuming optimal spec:

>1-10

>Mage

Can make own food and water, can ranged pull, gets a top-tier CC early on, having an insta-cast to ninja tags, and casting being relatively independent of gear all make mages obscenely good. Their only real weakness to speak of is if an enemy respawns near you. Mages are fragile as shit when this happens.

>Shaman

Not super great damage, but self-healing and a top-tier interrupt (and solid mob tagger) available early on make them incredible against mobs that can heal themselves.

>Druid

Have probably the best mob tagger in the game in Moonfire, as well as self-heals. Beyond that, their damage is middling at best.

>Priest

Self-heals are a huge plus, as is spell damage early on. Mana becomes a huge issue early on, so you'll either need plenty of drinks or a wand early on, which can be tough to come across on a first character.

>Rogue

One of the faster classes to level to 10 due to a static-damage toolkit, but pulling is rather complicated. Gouge basically becomes a pseudo-interrupt against healing mobs, which is useful.

>Warlock

Warlocks lack any decent interrupts or tagging abilities, but have fairly solid damage, and Life Tap reduces the need for drinks a bit, which is nice. As is having an imp, even if they only really add minimal damage and maybe an offtank if you play your cards right.

>Paladin

Basically warriors that can heal themselves. Which puts them slightly ahead. The bit of extra armor doesn't hurt either.

>Warrior

Warriors basically live and die by RNG. Their added armor doesn't make that big a difference super early on, and are super reliant on weapon damage. Lack of ranged abilities, heals, or dependable tagging abilities makes warriors rather painful to level early on.

>Hunter

Fuck. This. Class. They can range-pull, but that's about it. Without a pet, they can only get a few shots in before an enemy comes into melee range, casters notwithstanding. And their melee damage is godawful early on. Thankfully it gets better.

>10-60

>Hunter

This and mage can basically be used interchangeably. With pets, hunters basically have two life bars, can range pull, and get a speed boost at level 20. And they can pull pretty decent damage without eating loads of mana.

>Mage

Mages take a bit longer to kill mobs one at a time, but are gods of AoE farming, whereas hunters are relatively lackluster in that department. And, again, can still make food and water.

>Druid

Druids get an excellent toolkit past level 10. Bear form significantly reduces downtime, Cat form speeds up mob killing, roots are a great CC when dealing with outdoor mobs, Moonfire is as good a tag as ever. Self-healing remains a plus.

>Shaman

Self-healing is still a nice bonus, and they have pretty decent sustainability. Unfortunately a decent chunk of their damage is reliant on RNG or mana-heavy abilities, so there's a decent amount of downtime involved.

>Warlock

Like hunters, warlocks get access to a second life bar via their demons. Life tap is still a viable method of reducing downtime a bit. Unfortunately, locks can't really AoE farm, and their damage generally leaves something to be desired.

>Rogue

Rogues can pull excellent DPS against single targets, but constantly have to choose between facepulling extra mobs, or forgoing stealth to range pull. Speaking of, stealth is an excellent tool to hide from would-be gankers or headhunt specific players or NPCs.

>Priest

Priests are amongst the most boring classes to level up until 40, where they get access to Shadowform. Damage heavily revolves around wanding, dotting, and healing. Actually healing dungeons may help break the tedium. But PvP notwithstanding, their survivability is pretty good for the most part, if played right.

>Paladin

Rather underwhelming damage and still no ranged pulls outside of professions, but pretty good survivability. A rather slow go, overall.

>Warrior

Again, you're at the mercy of RNG, as you were before. Furthermore, your performance is largely affected by your equipment, particularly what weapons you're using. The upside is that you can take a decent amount of shots. It's still a slow go, though. Expect lots of downtime.

Granted, the above is largely speculation on my end, as I've only leveled 4 classes to 60 between retail vanilla and 1x private servers.

>>14607395

Implying troll mage isn't the absolute master race. Accept no substitute.

>>14610209

I've found the mana issues with shaman leveling are less of a problem now that I'm using an enhancement/ele hybrid leveling build while equipping a dagger+shield. You just use flametongue and you only really need to use your mana for healing; the damage is consistent because you use a fast weapon and each hit gives you fire damage. Much less RNG and downtime.

>>14610209

Hunter was my favorite class. Just don't wanna do level 1-10 with no pet for the 15th time.

>>14610429

Just group up with some level 1. Ideally a warrior or rogue. You're playing an MMO, lad.

>>14610209

Honestly Druids, Warriors, and Paladins should just start grouping asap and running dungeons as tanks or healers. The solo grind isn't much good.

>Druids get an excellent toolkit past level 10.

Yes, they get a toolkit, but they're masters of none. They either grind like weaker Rogues or like weaker Warriors. They can also grind like weaker Mages.

>Warlocks lack any decent interrupts or tagging abilities, but have fairly solid damage

It sounds like you've never leveled a Warlock. At level 4 you get Curse of Weakness and Corruption for instant cast tagging. At level 8 you get Curse of Agony.

>and Life Tap reduces the need for drinks a bit, which is nice

>a bit

Life Tap completely removes the need for drinks in my experience. You just Life Tap and Bandage. It's much faster than drinking or eating.

>As is having an imp, even if they only really add minimal damage and maybe an offtank if you play your cards right.

At these low levels your Imp will actually be more durable than your Warlock. If you aren't having your imp tank one mob while you tank another and DoT both mobs, you're doing it wrong. Grinding down mobs 1 by 1 is for noobs, suckers, and slowpokes.

>Like hunters, warlocks get access to a second life bar via their demons. Life tap is still a viable method of reducing downtime a bit. Unfortunately, locks can't really AoE farm, and their damage generally leaves something to be desired.

Demons aren't just a second life bar, they also keep you from eating interrupts and amount to an extra DoT on their own. Also, Warlocks don't need to AoE as they can grind down multiple mobs just by spamming DoTs all over them (the instant cast DoTs are Corruption, Curse of Agony, Siphon Life, and there's also Immolation for a slow-cast DoT) and then spamming nightfall proc instant shadowbolts (running and DoTting lets you kill a lot of mobs this), and they do actually AoE grind with Rain of Fire and Hellfire. Hellfire actually does better AoE DPS than Arcane Explosion, until they're both gearing over +536 spelldamage anyway (Hellfire's spelldamage is split at 100% across all 15 ticks then divided by 3 for being AoE, so they basically only get 2.22% spelldmg/sec, unlike Arcane Explosion which gets 9.5% spelldmg/sec). In terms of base DPS, Hellfire is by far the best AoE in the game. Warlocks do a bunch of DM-East AoE farming tbh.

>Warriors basically live and die by RNG. Their added armor doesn't make that big a difference super early on, and are super reliant on weapon damage. Lack of ranged abilities, heals, or dependable tagging abilities makes warriors rather painful to level early on.

If you roll a Warrior you might as well level as a blacksmith and autistically use whetstones/grindstones and upgrade to the highest +strength and highest DPS items at all times (unless they have crit or damage procs). There are some high DPS warrior weapons, but you'll find yourself purchasing leather and maybe gems on the AH to build them. Also, you should definitely skill First Aid as a Warrior. Bandages >>> Food. Not to mention Bandages are a critical self-heal for Warriors in 1v1 PvP when you've got an enemy under Intimidating Shout or similar.

Also Warriors tag mobs with guns or bows. Warriors and Rogues might have ranged as a complete afterthought (the agi-stacking rogues at least have solid white damage), but they can still use them to tag mobs from a distance.

>Rather underwhelming damage and still no ranged pulls outside of professions, but pretty good survivability. A rather slow go, overall.

You don't need engineering to throw dynamites, use magic candles, or equip Linken's Boomerang. Although if you're playing Paladin you should really, really get Engineering for the PvP and PvE uses.

>>14610248

I know you're just trolling but why the fuck would you bait newbies into making a worthless pick like that? The combat regen is so miniscule it's fucking worthless and Berserking ain't worth shit. If you get that max +30% cast speed (meaning you're near death), you would have to cast unimpeded for 10 seconds straight to get an extra 3 seconds' worth of casts. But if you had unimpeded casting for 10 seconds, you're probably already winning that fight anyhow. Now to combine that with the reality that you'll probably Berserk for 10-20% and it's nigh worthless. The best thing it can do is let you cast polymorph in response to a Warlock fear and have it go off first anyway, except if you went Undead you'd be able to WotF out and waste the Warlock's diminishing returns and you'd be able to WotF out of a Succubus.

>>14611504

>It sounds like you've never leveled a Warlock. At level 4 you get Curse of Weakness and Corruption for instant cast tagging. At level 8 you get Curse of Agony.

You need to deal damage to tag so curse of weakness won't cut it. DoTs only deal damage after a couple of seconds so in a tag competition warlocks fare really poorly. Your best bet is immolate because it has no travel time.

>>14611504

put your demon on aggressive and stand next to its spawn point

the only thing that beats that to the punch is other warlock demons, hunter pets… and hunter traps beat both of them to the punch

>>14612114

>>14612096

oh, and shadowburn

/script local i; CastShapeshiftForm(1); CastSpellByName("BloodRage"); CastSpellByName("Charge"); for i = 0,15 do if ( GetPlayerBuffTexture(i) == "Interface\\Icons\\Ability_Racial_BloodRage") then CancelPlayerBuff(i); end;

Warriors

also how do I make that duel spam macro

as well as the emote spam macro

>>14612127

Macro autist pls tell me how to do /petattack as warlock.

>>14612299

I dunno I found this looking for the duel spam macro

forum.twinstar.cz/threads/mufugbixnood-oyveygoy-vulgarity.124106/

HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

>>14612323

Do you need a separate account for the forum? Cant log in with my account. Post a pic of the screencap here they want you to log in to see it.

>>14612370

Kek what a fag.

>>14612323

>>14612370

TRIGGERED

>>14612388

It's always the alliance who complain. Alliance players are the root of all problems.

>>14612096

Ah, been a while. In that case Immolate or Searing Pain can work, although technically Drain Life would be faster. Shadowburn does instant damage as an instant cast, no projectile involved but it will cost you a soul shard. In general though stating shit with a Warlock is not recommended, as they are the masters of same faction griefing. Fearing a tagged mob so he can train 2-5 buddies to the guy who tagged him and then sticking Curse of Recklessness on all of them to boost their DPS and make them Fear-immune tends to kill people.

>>14612612

>stating shit

starting

To the allaince fags, there is a chink guild on Horde

also Fengyei is on the shitlist for stealing some shit form us like the typical chink

>>14613669

>alliance fags

>existing

>>14613669

Pathetic.

I HAVE SLAIN SO MANY FUCKING ORC AND TROLL SHITS I DONT EVEN KNOW MY OWN FUCKING NAME ANYMORE

EMBRACE THE FUCKING BLOODSHED AND STEP UP YOUR PATHETIC "RAID" INFINITY DIP SHITERS

PAIN IS JUST WEAKNESS FLEEING THE BODY

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Also if anyone wants we can start up an Alliance guild let me know, the one I am in is pretty good and the Guild info for the last week has been "No Commie Shits Allowed"

>>14607395

do you have a list like this for alliance?

>>14615373

Here's my take on alliance combos.

For PvE:

Warrior & Rogue: Human.

Paladin: Doesn't matter much. If you want to be a walking meme by speccing ret you should go human though.

Mage & Warlock: Gnome by a very slight margin for the 5% intellect.

Hunter: Doesn't matter much. Night elf has a little bit more agi but not a game-changer by any means.

Priest: Dwarf priest is the elder god tier race/class combo since they have fear ward. Human becomes decent once you are geared and have obscene amounts of spirit though.

For PvP:

Warrior: Gnome escape artist helps with the class' main weakness

Rogue: Both gnome and dwarf are decent picks here. Stone form helps with removing DoTs so you can restealth.

Paladin: Negligible impact.

Mage & Warlock: Gnome.

Hunter: Both are strong at different things. The elf shadowmeld synergizes well with the hunter class while being dwarf helps when fighting warriors/rogues.

Priest: Dwarf.

>>14616409

NEVER TRUST AN ELF

>>14617839

The Elf Druid is immunized against all dangers one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs of him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Nigger and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: 'I've been found out'

so are we actually going to use that book of grudges/actually play ally or should I just drop my gnome warlock for an orc?

>>14607395

I forgot to mention this, but War Stomp doesn't GCD. What makes it nuts for Shamans (esp. Ele Shamans) is that you can cast while your enemy is stunned, giving you a guaranteed 2 second window of time to spellcast while your enemy stands there doing nothing, effectively operating like a second Nature's Swiftness (you can cast a Lesser Healing Wave to self-heal or if you're ele spec you can cast Lightning Bolt or Chain Lightning with it). It can also be used to interrupt enemy spellcasts. The fact that its an AoE stun (on a class with absolutely zero CCs) is also nice. It is a racial that turns around fights you would otherwise have lost.

>>14616268

This.

Shadowmeld is mostly good for Hunters who like to go camping (like in BGs), since they can stealth along with their pet and since they shoot people from a long distance they won't get spotted easily. However Dwarf is by far the better race once you've already engaged a fight. It depends on what you want to do, really.

For Paladin I would still advise Dwarf over Human, since Stoneform can break out of a Rogue's blind and 8 seconds of +10% armor and poison immunity can still mess with any instant poisons and damage they do. It also removes bleeds. As a Paladin you can already cleanse diseases, poisons, and magic effects so you don't need it that badly, but it still helps and breaking out of Blind can decide a fight. Human racial by contrast is useless. At least it helps a bit with the PvE leveling (swords) and rep (diplomacy) grinds. In raids they won't give a shit though, unless you're seriously trying to raid as ret, which no good raid allows.

Warriors in PvP can also use Dwarf race, but Gnome usually takes precedence since kiting is a Warrior's primary weakness and being able to break out of roots and slows can make a difference. If you want to be a frost resistance stacking faggot though, Dwarf helps.

>>14617891

Elf Druid is inferior to Tauren Druid. Who the fuck needs Shadowmeld when you have real stealth and +5% hp > +1% dodge (although admittedly dodging special attacks makes Rogues and Hunters rage - Warriors will just wtfpwn you with the +50% crit chance instant Overpower attack they can only use when you dodge though) and War Stomp -> Spellcast wins fights for Druids. It's like a second Nature's Swiftness for them.

>>14618039

I forget can shadowmeld break combat in vanilla? that seems like it could have it's uses if so, even if just for swapping trinkets or something

also is +1 stealth level 100% useless end game?

it's about equal to the engi hat right?

>>14618145

>I forget can shadowmeld break combat in vanilla? that seems like it could have it's uses if so, even if just for swapping trinkets or something

There's no combat shadowmeld in vanilla. That was added all the way in WotLK. But you can eat and drink while shadowmelded, so it helps you avoid getting ganked during downtime. I think you can also cast during Shadowmeld, which would allow you to hearthstone while shadowmelded, but I'm not sure. I think it may have been nerfed and patched out mid-vanilla. Night Elves are a trash race overall. Shadowmeld gives you the stealth of a level 11 Rogue (50 stealth from shadowmeld's active, and another +5 stealth skill from the way shadowmeld passively improves your stealth), so the problem is not just standing still, it's a horribly awful stealth in general. The only thing it's good for is not getting spotted from a very large distance. In reality with Shadowmeld you can totally get spotted all the way from beyond a Hunter's max attack range, but I think there's supposed to be a good hiding spot or something for it. At least your character will be very transparent, unless they have an addon that points out stealthed enemies you've detected.

And by the way you can use Invisibility Potions and Gnomish Cloaking Device as a magical stealth and drop big spells on people. If you're using a Lesser Invisibility Potion or Gnomish Cloaking Device you can be detected by a Detect Lesser Invisibility Elixir but if you are using a full-blown Invisibility Potion you can only be detected by people buffed with a Warlock's Detect Invisibility or Detect Greater Invisibility.

>also is +1 stealth level 100% useless end game?

You typically want at least 3 extra stealth levels so you spec 5/5 Master of Deception (+3 stealth skill per rank, ie. 15 total aka 3 levels' worth) as a Rogue or 5/5 Feral Instinct (+3 stealth skill per rank, ie. 15 total aka 3 levels' worth) as a Druid. Getting an extra level of stealth can help you save a few talent points there, but you can also get extra stealth from the following items:

Nightscape Boots (+5 stealth, +12 agi) - leathercrafting boots

Whisperwalk Boots (+5 stealth, +18 agi, +4 stamina) - quest reward from Rogue-only class quest

Darkmantle Boots (+8 stealth, +24 agi, +10 stamina) - Tier 0.5 Rogue dungeon set

Boots of Displacement (+8 stealth, +33 agi, +21 stamina) - Naxx drop from Gothik

And you can get an extra +5 stealth from the stealth cloak enchant. As a nelf it's possible to wear boots, enchant cloak, and have +15 stealth without any ranks in MoD or FI (or you can do both…). If you're a Rogue you can also just Vanish before sneaking up on someone (+170 stealth at rank 1, +270 stealth at rank 2… yeah, it's nuts) if you're horribly worried about their stealth detection. All in all though 5 stealth rating is not worth going out of your way for and grabbing a race. It's much better to play a Dwarf or even a Gnome. For PvE Humans are best ofc (+5 sword and mace skill is no joke, and Diplomacy helps with the rep grinds). In general Night Elf is the worst race to play as if you have an option. Trolls are similarly the red-headed stepchild of Horde races, but at least their Priests have really good racial spells (if not for WotF I'd say Troll > Undead, but they're still a very good pick), unlike Nelf Priests, who are completely fucked.

>it's about equal to the engi hat right?

Not sure what you're talking about. The two big engi hats are the Gnomish Mind Control Cap and Goblin Rocket Helm, both of which are amazing, but I don't think you're talking about either of them.

>>14618312

I was talking about the catseye/felvine goggles that both increase your stealth detection

also I thought invisibility made you unable to see anything else that wasn't also invisible or had invisibility detection and as such made it not so great for ganks but rather for escaping. or is that something else that was added later?

I didn't get to use any invis on the last vanilla server I was on so I don't have too much experience with this

>>14618528

Nope. Shadowmeld only gives +5 stealth.

Catseye Ultra Goggles: +18 to stealth detection

Bloodvine Lens: +10 to stealth detection (Bloodvine Goggles gives 0 stealth detection.)

Shadowmeld racial only gives you +5, so by itself it is not enough. Shadowmeld racial + cloak enchant gives you +10, enough to undo Bloodvine Lens. Shadowmeld racial + cloak enchant + 8 stealth boots will give you the 18 needed to overcome goggles. But there are more sources of stealth detection:

Perception racial: +50 stealth detection

Catseye Elixir: +10 stealth detection (for 10 minutes)

Track Hidden hunter ability: +30 stealth detection

Felhunter Paranoia: +30 stealth detection (30yd aura buffs the whole party)

Druid PvP gloves: +10 stealth detection

Heightened Senses rogue talent: +3/+6 stealth detection

The Perception racial sucks because it has a 20 second duration and 180 second (3min) cooldown. Since it only works when you're already somehow guessing that a Rogue you cannot see is near, it generally sucks, especially since it doesn't work on Vanish (+170/+270 stealth). It's pretty much only good in duels and occasionally BGs where you could guess rogue movement patterns. If you are playing a Human you might as well spam Perception on cooldown on the off-chance 1 in 9 chance it helps you spot a Rogue lurking nearby.

A Hunter/Warlock combo means the Hunter will have 60 stealth detection easy. A Warlock or Hunter with their buff and Catseye Ultra Goggles and Catseye Elixir will have +58 stealth detection, which is enough to gank rogues from a distance. Generally speaking Catseye Ultra Goggles aren't worth it by themselves unless you have Paranoia or Detect Hidden. This is because Rogues typically have at least +15 stealth (talents) and love circling around you to your back (where you need a lot more stealth detection to spot a Rogue). Even with +30 stealth detection a Warlock or Hunter only has a very brief window of time to react when a rogue is coming from the front (World of Roguecraft ep 2 details this). It's not until you stack up extra sources of stealth detection that it gets dangerous.

By the way, World of Roguecraft 3-1:

Episode 3: http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=6140

Episode 2: http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=7940

Episode 1: http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=26540

And yes, he released Episode 3 first and 1 last.

>>14616268

>Human becomes decent once you are geared and have obscene amounts of spirit tho

Please don't spread this meme, the human racial literally will give you +17 spirit in naxx. Reroll your character if you rolled a Human priest, because you aren't getting into raids.

>>14611504

>Yes, they get a toolkit, but they're masters of none. They either grind like weaker Rogues or like weaker Warriors. They can also grind like weaker Mages.

Unlike all of those classes, they can heal themselves. And outside of shapeshifting, feral combat doesn't eat mana. Basically removes the need for water in solo content until much later levels, e.g. 30+ or so. Granted, that's guesstimation, I haven't gotten a druid to 60 since vanilla was still retail.

>It sounds like you've never leveled a Warlock. At level 4 you get Curse of Weakness and Corruption for instant cast tagging. At level 8 you get Curse of Agony.

In addition to what >>14612096 said, Corruption isn't instant cast unless you're talented into it, which means that at the very least, you won't get an instant version of it until level 14. Thus, Immolate remains the most viable option until Searing Pain, or shadowburn if it's specced into.

>Also, Warlocks don't need to AoE as they can grind down multiple mobs just by spamming DoTs all over them (the instant cast DoTs are Corruption, Curse of Agony, Siphon Life, and there's also Immolation for a slow-cast DoT) and then spamming nightfall proc instant shadowbolts (running and DoTting lets you kill a lot of mobs this), and they do actually AoE grind with Rain of Fire and Hellfire. Hellfire actually does better AoE DPS than Arcane Explosion, until they're both gearing over +536 spelldamage anyway (Hellfire's spelldamage is split at 100% across all 15 ticks then divided by 3 for being AoE, so they basically only get 2.22% spelldmg/sec, unlike Arcane Explosion which gets 9.5% spelldmg/sec). In terms of base DPS, Hellfire is by far the best AoE in the game. Warlocks do a bunch of DM-East AoE farming tbh.

This is the part where my relative lack of Warlock experience forces me to speculate. I don't think I've broken 20 on a vanilla-type server. That said, fair point on dotting, but as far as soloing goes, "proper" lock AoE is still relatively weak, since their only two abilities are channeled, and neither slow targets, and require digging fairly deep into destro to have a chance at CCing whatsoever, locking you out of some of the deep affliction talents, which as I understand it, are considered top tier for leveling. But again, I could, and probably am, wrong.

>Also, you should definitely skill First Aid as a Warrior. Bandages >>> Food. Not to mention Bandages are a critical self-heal for Warriors in 1v1 PvP when you've got an enemy under Intimidating Shout or similar.

To be fair, first aid in vanilla is important to have on virtually every class. I remember my raiding guild requiring everyone to have it leveled for MC to ease up mana on healers.

>You don't need engineering to throw dynamites, use magic candles, or equip Linken's Boomerang. Although if you're playing Paladin you should really, really get Engineering for the PvP and PvE uses.

I honestly forgot about EZ-thro and didn't even know Magic Candles were a thing. Linken's is a bit of a stretch as far as leveling goes as well. But yeah, engineering is definitely better for Paladins than most classes.

>>14619321

>weapon specialization doesn't matter in raids

if it means you can skip getting some +hit in favor of more crit or str or whatever then yes it does matter

also means a lower barrier to entry for raiding

One thing warlocks (and hunters I suppose) can do that I'm not sure everybody knows about:

if there is a group of mobs sitting somewhere but you only want to kill one for some reason you can aggro the one, have your pet tank it a little ways away from the spawn point. Then you lead the rest far enough away that they run back leaving you free to kill the one held by your pet

also I just found out you can use the rat catcher flute anywhere on this server so that's fun

>>14619282

Wait is infinity the board guild or just a random? I've had no idea which to join

>>14616268

>Priest: Dwarf priest is the elder god tier race/class combo since they have fear ward. Human becomes decent once you are geared and have obscene amounts of spirit though.

Okay I didn't read this bit carefully. Let's be clear here, "Human Spirit" is never fucking worth it. Do some math. If you somehow accumulate 400 spirit, you would only get +20 spirit from this racial. How the fuck is that worth a racial pick? It isn't. If you want to PvE or PvP as Alliance, it's Dwarf Priest all the way either way. Even if you are raiding all the way in Naxx with your hundreds of spirit, you would be much, much gladder to have the +10 frost resist Dwarf racial than the +5% spirit Human racial. Fear Ward is also a raiding must-have to the point that if you aren't playing a Dwarf the better raiding guilds will tell you to fuck off and reroll Dwarf before you can join. Fear Ward and Stone Form are also much more likely to win PvP fights than fucking Feedback and Perception.

>>14619321

While I agree with your PvP priorities, PvE racials matter a lot too. Humans are PvE master race for Rogues and Warriors because of their weapon skill bonus to swords and maces. Swords in particular are the best weapon type thanks to the Sword Spec talent Rogues and Warriors have (+5% chance of extra attack - btw this extra attack is a copy of the original attack, even if it was a special attack like Execute). That said, if you're only doing yellow hits from behind weapon skill is very negligible, since yellow hits can't be glancing blows and attacks from behind cannot be parried or blocked. Priests have to be Dwarves for serious raiding guilds just for the Fear Ward racial spell (fortunately Dwarves are the best PvP race too).

>>14619504

>Unlike all of those classes, they can heal themselves. And outside of shapeshifting, feral combat doesn't eat mana. Basically removes the need for water in solo content until much later levels, e.g. 30+ or so. Granted, that's guesstimation, I haven't gotten a druid to 60 since vanilla was still retail.

Rogues and Warriors should be skilling First Aid and self-healing with Bandages (it's much faster than eating). Your Druid heals are slightly faster though.

>In addition to what >>14612096 said, Corruption isn't instant cast unless you're talented into it, which means that at the very least, you won't get an instant version of it until level 14. Thus, Immolate remains the most viable option until Searing Pain, or shadowburn if it's specced into.

Warlocks have Immolate from level 1 and Searing Pain from level 18. You can definitely tag with Immolate, although Shadow Bolt is better for pulling precisely because of its slow projectile time. You don't pull the mob until the bolt hits, which means you get a little extra casting time before the mob reaches you when you pull with SB to drop an Immolate.

>This is the part where my relative lack of Warlock experience forces me to speculate. I don't think I've broken 20 on a vanilla-type server. That said, fair point on dotting,

DotTing is a bog-standard way Warlocks multi-grind a ton of mobs. It works really well with Siphon Life since you will actually be healing up while you do this, so DoT and run kiting a pack of mobs is a great way to take them down and life tap and heal.

>but as far as soloing goes, "proper" lock AoE is still relatively weak, since their only two abilities are channeled, and neither slow targets, and require digging fairly deep into destro to have a chance at CCing whatsoever, locking you out of some of the deep affliction talents, which as I understand it, are considered top tier for leveling. But again, I could, and probably am, wrong.

No one specs Pyroclasm. That talent is set up so you only get a 26% chance over the entire duration of the AoE (so Rain of Fire has around a 7% proc chance per tick and Hellfire has around a 2% chance per tick). Intensity is the only important talent, although you can still make do without if you're having your Voidwalker tank then sacrifice it for the giant shield while you AoE them down. DPS-wise, Hellfire is the strongest AoE in the entire game (until +536 spelldmg anyway, which is when Arcane Explosion overtakes it, unless the Warlock is Soul Link spec perhaps with a Succubus out or Conflag spec or DS/Ruin spec with a sacrificed Imp).

On the Alliance side if you're leveling with a Paladin buddy it's popular to go 2/2 Intensity, have your Paladin friend apply Concentration Aura (another +35% casting loss avoidance, resulting in 100% casting loss avoidance overall), then have him use Consecration and heal you while you Hellfire. You can plow through a ton of AoE grinding this way.

Anyway, Warlocks can and do AoE farm, although DoT kiting a large pack is also popular.

>I honestly forgot about EZ-thro and didn't even know Magic Candles were a thing. Linken's is a bit of a stretch as far as leveling goes as well. But yeah, engineering is definitely better for Paladins than most classes.

They are. Just buy them nonstop off lowbies in Elwyn Forest and tell them to just mail you Magic Candles and you'll pay. IIRC it's a separate cooldown so the more ranged pulls, the merrier. And there's also Electromagnetic Gigaflux Reactivator (Gnomeregan drop) and Helm of Fire (Leatherworking item) for more tagging. Linken's Boomerang is admittedly very late in the coming.

>>14619546

Elemental Shamans have better DPS than Mages combined with the heals of Druids while wearing mail armor and a shield for a massive physical damage reduction. The downside is that they have absolutely zero CCs (unless Tauren and/or Engineer or swinging a weapon with a stun proc or using the Tidal Charm trinket - Seriously, roll Tauren), their Frost Shock has Diminishing Returns, their mobility is limited (Ghost Wolf has a cast time unless you use Nature's Swiftness on it), and they are fucked if you lock them out of Nature school. For a while Shamans were using an un-nerfed ZHC trinket with the Natural Alignment Crystal (Arcane Power for Shamans on a trinket) which as a special case did not share CDs and they were doing massive damage in PvP. A Shaman with ZHC+NAC and Berserker could even one-shot you for 4k damage. They nerfed ZHC and made NAC share a cooldown with damage trinkets though, which made NAC a lot less popular.

>Mage was fun also specially since it had really high survivability and you could escape situations where shaman was forced to fight to death because it couldn't escape snares without pvp trinket. For carrying flag in wsg mage was the best after druid.

With the PvP boots and Nature's Swiftness for instant Ghost Wolf, Shamans are pretty good flag runners tbh. You can also use Free Action Potion to ignore slows and the like (FAP can get dispelled by enemy priests though) and Spider Belt to break out of immobilizes on top of the PvP trinket.

>Shaman was the best healer in vanilla PVE because chain heal is so good specially with good gear. I could top healing meters simply by spamming R1 chain heal all the time with occasional higher ranks. If you want to healer in PVE, choose shaman. If you want to do dmg, choose mage. Elemental shaman sucks for pve because it runs out of mana fast and there's no utility except totems.

Yeah 3piece T2 helps a lot. You were lucky though. For the longest time in vanilla Chain Heal chose its extra targets at random instead of bouncing to targets that actually need heals, so it was fucking awful. Elemental shamans are great DPS in Naxx but before then the presence of nature immunity ruined them.

>Carrying flag with druid was great fun because it had such high survivability. Only problem was ambushing rogues when you were in travel form

If you're talking world PvP, 2/2 Feline Swiftness will let you run around fast enough in Cat Form.

>Nature's swiftness is life saver and sometimes raid saver for both druid and shaman.

You can also use it for an instant nuke in PvP. Shamans have it best with NS Lightning Bolt or NS Chain Lightning, but Druids can still NS Wrath (which is slightly higher damage than Moonfire, esp. with high damage spelldmg) or Entangling Roots

>>14619719

>can't read the OP

>still leveling on alliance

Retard filter hard at work.

>>14620238

I've killed a bunch of faggots from <QRP> or whatever the alliance group is. they're dumb.

Also warlorc is a streamer, make sure to camp him.

>>14620238

They've been pushing themselves as a PvP guild, take of that as you may.

>>14620613

https://classicdb.ch/?talent#sZVGucc0xZxfctbck

If you want to build up your paladin to level up well and become good at pvp by 60 you will want something like this.

Or you can place points into benediction instead of improved blessing of might, since you will be grabbing another buff called kings blessin which improves all of your stats by 10%

The point of this build is seal of command in retribution and reckoning in the protection tree.

Seal of command will give you a proc to attack twice, which can also crit, so you will need a big weapon for this. The reckoning skill is your pvp killing, every time you take a crit, you get a free extra attack, this can stack up to FIVE TIMES, add this with your seal of command, you become a dangerous tanky bomb against rogues and hunters or Dual wielding warriors that'll just explode with huge damage against them.

If you want to focus on killing mages or warlocks and other classes, you will want to build yourself to be resistant to magic attacks, like shadow, ice, fire and build up a lot of mana and health to outlast them aswell as grabbing the talent - Eye for an eye, which will convert some spell crit damage back to the caster.

Generally you just wanna be hard to kill as a paladin, since Paladins are also the tankiest healers in the game that rogues hate a lot.

>>14620948

I'm not really interested in pvp I intend to respec to a healer when I'm higher level but I'll use your guide until that time thanks

how do I join the guild

>>14621553

Post your in-game name in thread and we will invite you.

Threadly reminder that you will never recapture the feeling of vanilla WoW

>>14619808

>I had 7/9 T3 on shaman so I never used 3/8 T2 bonus because it wasn't worth it. On 1.12 chain heal always jumped to those who needed it so I could overheal on purpose even if my original target got healed to full before cast had ended. Elemental shaman was never good dps specially in naxx because you would run oom in few minutes even with pots and runes. There's no way you could do constant dps for even 10 minutes.

IIRC you had to go out of your way stacking up mana/5 and group with a mana tide shaman.

>I did some ZG/MC as ele but specially ZG sucked because no curse would lower nature res.

You have to gear for it, mostly AQ gear. There's Rune of Perfection (20 spell pen), Ring of Swarming Thought (20 spell pen), Robe of the Battlemage (20 pen), and Stormcaller Boots (10 pen). You can also try to fiddle with Staff of the Qiraji Prophets for the proc, but despite the high proc rate (and that it's a self-buff and therefore does not use up debuff slots), it's still not reliable. If your tank is debuffing enemies with a Thunderfury you get a bit less nature resist to deal with too.

>Lack of CC is the shaman's main problem

Yeah, go Tauren and get Goblin Rocket Helm, Goblin Mortar, Tidal Charm, nades, and maybe a weapon with a stun proc if you want some CCs.

>and you cannot get out of sheep for example.

There's always Skull of Impending Doom and Restorative Potion.

>Earth shock, grounding totem and curbstomp made it hard for casters.

Also Searing Totem. Don't doubt the power of that little totem to inflict casting loss by repeatedly poking enemies with damage. You can also use Barov Peasant Caller to give casters trouble. If you're in a funny mood you can also try to mob enemies with a Barov Peasant Caller. Just drop a Strength of Earth totem and a Flametongue Weapon totem and maybe a Grace of Air totem and suddenly they do good damage. Although you might be better off going Searing / Strength / Windfury totems overall, esp. if you want to inflict casting loss.

question: is there anyway to report or stop these chinks from spamming me with these ads disguised as channel invites?

>>14623593

>not even private servers a safe from the yellow merchant

>>14623593

I've been reporting chinks and botters under harassment.

>>14623593

There is a workaround addon, which hides all chat with spam keywords. Channel invites also I believe.

https://github.com/Orukxu/SpamThrottle

https://forum.twinstar.cz/threads/mufugbixnood-vulgarity.124213/

I am loved

>>14627734

Because only soyboys play mmorpgs now. This isn't the age of UO any longer.

what are the pc specs needed to play this also is it free?

>>14628129

game is from 2004 so a toaster can run it, also it's free because it's a private server

>>14628135

Total server pop I don't think is posted/publicized but there are quite a few people considering all the pvp happening and all the quest mobs being fought over at the moment.

>>14628147

sweet thanks

>>14628047

Welcome to the team faggot :^)

>>14628147

is there a guide how to install this shit? I read the OP and I'm still confused af. I'm illiterate when it comes to tech shit

>>14628610

Shit, missed this. The full guide they have is on the website at http://www.kronos-wow.com/how-to-connect/

Basically you gotta torrent the client, then you modify a file in the main install folder called realmlist.wtf, you open it in any text editing program and you put a realmlist provided by the site (In this case there are 3 different ones, just choose whichever lags the least)

>>14628610

Also if you aren't familiar with torrenting, basically its a system for downloading files from multiple different sources piece by piece, so if more people are uploading (seeding) parts of the file, it will be faster than a regular download. You can get a program to open the torrent file from http://www.utorrent.com/

>>14628935

yea I'm using utorrent I looked up online and I am at the login screen but I have no idea how I'm supposed to set realmlist I'm confused af here

>>14629007

Find the realmlist file in your WoW folder and open it using a text editor then just delete everything in there and replace it with one of these three:

set realmlist west.kronos-wow.com

set realmlist north.kronos-wow.com

set realmlist east.kronos-wow.com

>>14629025

ok which text editor is ms word ok?

>>14629032

I mean, just try it and if it doesn't work use notepad.

>>14629025

>>14629041

oh ok I'll use notepad

>>14629041

IT WORKS THANK GOD ALSO IS THE SERVER PVP OR PVE?

>>14629105

pvp, make sure you make a character on Kronos 3 and not Kronos

What the fuck I randomly got banned for "goldspam".

>>14629502

your IP might be associated with a goldspam bot. post on the forums, don't use goycord

>>14628129

>>14628610

>>14629032

>doesn't know how to torrent

>doesn't know about private servers

>using word to edit a text file

>gets spoonfed all the way

Absolutely disgusting.

>>14629502

Guess I'll drop WoW. Is folly absolutely fucking dead?

name is Tulis add me to guild

>>14629797

I don't see any possibility of that happening. It said I didn't have permission to post in forum…

How the fuck am i ever supposed to complete "the test of righteousness" if i cant even reach Shadowfang Keep to get the hammer without being ganged by horde

>>14631704

stay the fuck off our turf elf lover

>Group up with guy for quest

>He tells me he's from Sweden

>Ask him how many muslim dicks he's sucked

>He gives me a new mace

>He then says dwarf women are ugly and admits to liking elves

Man, Sweden is fucked.

>>14631534

make a twinstar forum account.

your game account is not the same as the forum one.

how can I chat online with teamspeak?

>>14634005

you mean mumble right?

google it

>>14634801

yeah mumble what server is it?

>>14639221

get online now

>>14639230

Aye aye

>server hopping

>again

You fags never learn.

a "classic"

>>14639535

You're implying we're tied to MMOs in general :^)

Also if I'm still alive I intend to move over to their no doubt wonderfully buggy TBC server to keep playing.

>>14594568

The working/middle/upperclass in Europe mainly don't give a fuck (unless you're in Germany/Sweden) It's burgers who go insane at nigger

>>14640519

This.

G bank updated, check doc

This shit still going?

>>14649177

yeah, alliance seems to be dead.

Horde faction is getting back into it/

>page 13 and not even bump limit

ded guild

ded gaem

Does anyone know if Alliance has any chink guilds to remove on sight?

Can anyone on Kronos III give me a total online player count? keeps saying zero on mine.

>>14654328

at least 6k

consensus addons won't work on this server

>>14654355

I was typing the wrong thing in chat, it says "2467" on mine, anyone can give me a screen cap of their chat player count? I think mine is bugged.

>>14654403

They don't actively show the P count

>>14654427

I am so confused right now. Do they show their player count on their website like Lightshope or whatever?

>>14654450

Nope

on launch it was reported 10K at once

>>14654479

How though? You can't see the player count in game through chat logs and its not posted on the website. I am just trying to figure were these "reports" are coming from.

>>14654489

staff themselves reported it.

Pop is fairly larger though because on launch day all the starting zones were congested to shit.

>>14654518

Night elves are upitty shits.

WoW Elves and Tolkien elves to an extent are shit.

>>14654493

So they have no official means of reporting the actual player count just "What we say". Okay then.

>>14654609

From what I heard about Everyst, not like displaying numbers is going to make them even more concrete

>>14654639

Everyst was a special case since it was too simple to just count the population manually. You could fit the entire horde and alliance faction on one naked /who.

What the fuck. can anyone else log in?

>>14655861

Server crashed recently but I can log in now.

>>14655871

ugh. fucking rolled back aswell just when i got the last item for quest

>based horde players talking about the JQ in the Durotar general chat

Ay guys, not new to WoW but new to private vanilla.

I like Horde and I like undead.

So, roll a priest? Or has this been done a million times? What profession? I do enjoy priests and have done one before so I know how to play.

>>14656288

Priests are extremely high demand on horde. I recommend tailoring + herbalism if you're concerned about end-game best-in-slots and money-making. If you're concerned about PvP you should go engineering + mining.

>>14654533

>WoW Elves and Tolkien elves to an extent are shit.

World of Warcraft devs retconned WC3 Night Elves to be more Tolkien-like, in WC3 Night Elves were more feral and tribalist while in WoW they are all about MUHELUNE and there is no clear tribalism between MALE druid sects and female warriors.

>>14656343

oh firstly what realm do I pick? There's only 3 to pick.

>>14656362

The realm is called Kronos III.

>>14656377

oh yeah thanks, i found where it said that

>>14656638

yeah Tyrande was a bitch but overall WC3 Night Elves were much better lorewise than WoW tolkien-like elves

Cool I made a toon, I'm Tootsiepop

This takes me back.

>>14656770

Gotta be online

>>14656811

what for?

I'm on now :)

>russian pug

Now I know why the server is undertuned. It's so that these retards can actually clear content.

classic when.

>>14656961

Never

Ever

>>14656961

I wouldn't say it's under tuned. everything feels like a breeze because 1.12 abilities and talents. Most Private servers seem to buff their shit.

>>14657124

That's probably partially true, but talents alone wouldn't make such a big difference at low and mid levels, surely.

My admittedly vague and biased memories of retail put the appropriate level of difficulty somewhere between this and LH/Ely. Hard to tell as I played like shit back then.

>>14656961

>>14657124

>>14657167

Actually one of the hardest Archmage Arugal fights I've ever had has been on Kronos 3. And that was with a kind of overleveled party too. I doubt it's undertuned on low levels, at least compared to Nost/Elysium/Light's Hope

>>14657124

I'd contend that K3 is much easier than other private servers I've played, but it could just be better players in some cases. The most obvious example is Mutanus in WC, where the waves of mobs before he actually pops out spawn much more slowly than on LH/Ely. Basically turns the fight from the gauntlet from Hell that even a group of level 20-22s can have issues with to basically wave -> ~15 second food/mana break -> wave ~15 second food mana break -> boss. Pretty sure that on LH/Ely Oggleflint (RFC) pulls with the 2 troggs near him, where on K3 they pull separately, making that much easier. Beyond that, everything else just felt easier, although I have no specific reason as to why. I've done RFC, WC, SFK, RFK, BFD, and Gnomer so far.

>>14657174

I think I was in that one, Arugal wiped the fucking floor with us.

I will admit pathing on K3 is fucking HORRIBLE. BFD was a shit show with mobs running into the water to path towards us. as for Mutanus I think the fight actually is scripted properly on K versus the others only because that would seem like poor design having the waves spawn so quickly after one another, or probably altered to increase difficulty.

That said K3 is hit or miss

>>14654533

>Tolkien elves to an extent are shit

Investigate methods you tasteless queer.

R I P

>>14657965

Que?

>>14657965

RIP BEEFSTACKS

2018 - 2018

>>14658001

My retarded son died?

>>14658001

>>14658006

>>14657995

Can you guys get on to the server? apparently the website is getting ddos or some bullshit.

>>14658026

We're in game right now

FUCKING POLITICIANS

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

>>14658058

what happened?

>>14658082

Same shit everytime, edrama to laugh the fuck at.

Classic WoW is never going to happen, Blizzard will not go near these fucking people.

Twinstar is getting hit now too, something is going down.

>>14658110

Cattle and I are in server right now

>>14658117

Yeah but both Kronos website and Twinstar are down, someone said the servers are going down tonight.

>>14658126

Thats great nigger so am I, but china is pissed or some bullshit.

>>14658138

Who cares what China thinks? What the fuck are you on about, nigger.

>>14658162

>>14658164

Are you fucking streaming nigger?

>>14658189

No, I was recording shit with OBS like 3 days ago and never closed the program

>>14658195

fucking racist nazis

>>14658211

ok stop and explain why you're sperging

>>14658216

staysafe

Hey do addons work on this

>>14658844

yeah get vanilla addons

>>14658317

Are you schizophrenic?

>Beef burned out

When you're ready to come back we'll be here mate

>>14658884

Which ones should I get? I'm a priest that will be healing at some point later on. Thx

>>14659280

healbot

look up others

>>14659291

what prof do you need right meow

>>14659337

Nigga make your own descisions

>>14659360

ok np just didn't want there to be like 20 blacksmiths in the guild, got it

>>14659381

we have almost no engineers if you wanna do that

Also K3 has a ncie fun bug.

Stuns and fears on the boat clip them through it

>>14659390

lol

oh I was an engie on my main years ago so I am not sure I want to do that all over again - had it maxed out and all the recipes

>>14659394

w/e you need. Just saying we have I think 0 active engineers

>>14659394

Just use this faggots guides on professions he used to play all the way up to WOD until he got burnt out if you're newfag to profs or haven't played in a while this guy is actually bretty gud http://www.tarouwowguides.com/

>>14659786

>>14659629

>>14659539

thx i went herbs and apoth

other guy went enchant and tailor

>>14660039

sexy

so is anybody actually going ally?

are we actually going to use that book of grudges idea?

should I just reroll orc and abandon my gnome lock with decent proffs?

>>14663543

have you checked the book?

<Folly> went MIA presumed dead, only person associated or thought to be associated with it is some sperg from a few threads back. We're pretty much playing at our own pace at this point on horde

>>14663594

well okay then guess I'll go orc lock

>>14663652

When you hop on message mufugbixnood or someone in the guild and we'll try to get you in

I actually got a orc lock to lvl 9 before

name of hoarse

>>14663543

I have been on Alliance this entire time and made a guild but I didn't recruit from here because its whites only. Just go horde like the rest of the niggers.

got me and another player in the guild, we both are undead

join horde server 3

Also rip LH

>>14666806

Mathhs please you stopped playing, no one cares

>>14666858

Who?

I am playing Horde you nigger

>>14666894

>check ID

so you're a faggot

glad you got chased of /vg/

>>14667011

Chased off* of /vg/?

Oh no, three nigger horde are reporting me to a pathetic attempt of a "real" /v/ board. Seriously, how do these private servers die so fucking fast. Have Infinity even done 40 man raids yet?

>>14667053

I don't think a sperg like you deserves an answer

>>14667080

>(67)

Whatever you say mutt

>>14663725

>I have been on Alliance this entire time

>>14666894

>I am playing Horde

well which is it?

honestly I'm not convinced that you aren't just no true Scotsman alliance shitposting to drive people onto infinity/horde

>>14663594

I will say it again, all the circlejerk faggots from (((Infinity))) are not worth your time playing this with.

>>14667888

having fun so far!

>>14667888

like >>14667953 said it's been fun so far.

It's been a lot more relaxed. Just kinda leveling and ganking.

>>14668092

I think so alliance gas are just playing.

I really don't want to stir artificial drama of any kind like the sperg is. Just play

got some level 14s playing together, anyone around 14-15-16 and want to play together?

>>14668717

what side?

>>14668809

whored

>>14668092

Funny how it was the OP of this thread that started drama when we were playing in a guild that wasn't (((his))). Now he sheds crocodile tears like the kike he is.

>>14668987

no one cares faggot

>>14670017

>buzzwords the post

ok nigger whatever you say.

>>14670464

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