/v/ - Video Games

Fight my urge to eat your ass, anon.

>>14586972

The longer they delay it, the more time I get to not be disappointed by the fact that it's not Shermie

>>14589915

>people don't even give enough of a shit about IJ to crack it.

Amazing

>>14589918

could say the same about DBFZ

Do you think Inj2 is worth a buy? Legendary Edition is 25$ here atm but I don't want to buy it if its online is going to die when MK11 comes out in a few months

this thread has become another beg thread.

>>14590001

but dbfz is cracked: cec1a4f0448c86d244efb0ae2324b4c91fe6b736

I mean >>14589915 isn't smart either to crack it himself

Where can I find some good bison combos that isn't a video or youtube? I just want the ease of just looking at the moves and trying them out for my self rather than watch a vid. Ive just been getting a lot more comfortabLe with him lately and I'd like to move on from his first V trigger and try and learn his second. I tried "Escrubs" but their info that isn't forums is out of date, though that info by Gooteks did help.

Also any Juri tips or info would be appreciated. Mained her on 4, but she's no where near the same and I dont want to completely drop her just because she plays differently

>kof97 coupon in my steam inventory out of nowhere

Okay?

>>14591017

>unlike Samurai Shodown V Special for PS4 that has Training Mode even though the original AES version doesn't have it.

>>14591057

>By the way Bamco, were is the Titty Ninja?

The game won't be out before EVO, so I guess they are saving her and maybe Talim for a trailer after the Tekken 7 finals.

Also, don't expect the same modes as the first SoulCalibur. The interview in the OP implies that they'll take stuff from the sequels too and obvioulsy it'll have customizations. This is mostly a SC1.5 or a MK9 style of retelling stuff.

>>14591057

>>14591085

They could be customization choices. Noctis has bunch of other outfits that are from FFXV I think?, haven't played FFXV yet

>>14591085

Well, Skyrim does that too. The worst heavy armor in the game is the iconic look.

>>14591085

Isn't the Soul Calibur series known for its huge customization feature anyway ?

A 5v5 Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown tournament happened over the weekend and had 500+ entrants.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/245253607

>>14591116

I went to a local tournament last month and got wrecked. At least I did alright in '98 casuals (only lost a few matches) there. Let's hope I get better in 3.0

Depending on where you live you might find some online community.

>>14591085

>>14591121

You can't customize guests unless you HEX edit your save, They usually have 2 costumes and that's it.

>>14591129

Can somebody archive this on youtube before twitch deletes it after the two weeks limit?

>>14591129

Weren't Sega hinting at a new Virtua Fighter a while back, or at least a PC port of something?

Did anything come of that?

>>14591176

Wait Lei WuLong isn't in Tekken 7?

Fucking Lei?

WTF Bamco.

I was thinking of getting it next sale but fucking goddamn.

>>14591176

What you think?

>>14592408

What I expect for MK11.

>Scorpion rages at Sub Zero about dead family.

>Subzero points out for the 90th time it wasn't him that did it but his asshole brother.

>Scorpion rages at Sub Zero about dead family.

>>14592431

I thought they were bestest of buddies as of MKX.

All I want is hot, fit women like MK9. Something about those abs and figures man.

>>14590328

It's not cracked you absolute fucking dumbass.

>>14591697

Here's an hour of FEXL gameplay from NCR with Jiyuna doing commentary, if anyone wanted to see what D. Dark looked like.

>>14592131

I don’t hear the problem, anon. Stop being such a massive weeb.

>>14593505

>>14593505

Who the hell is this and why should I care?

>>14592640

>>14591697

Also Expert Mode revealed.

>>14593505

>Fighting games are the most diverse communities in the world

>B-But they are racist because I can't handle the bants as a white middle upper middle class feminist

Literally, this is what they wanted and yet they hate it.

>>14593505

Please, tell me that at least there's people in the comments calling him out for being the crying faggot he is

>toxic

Of course he has to use that word, if he hates videogame culture so much then why doesn't he just fuck off instead of trying to change it?

>>14593505

>>14593549

Ok, I tried reading and,

>From ~2002 to 2009, Capcom and most of the other Japanese companies decided the era of fighting games had fizzled out and they mostly stopped making them

>SNK

>Namco

>ArcSys

>The Boom of the Doujin scene

Why burguers keep telling themselves this?

I actually love kof, I find the older ones are better i'm glad their fightcade to enjoy a bit more. I want Shermie to dom and bully me, and talk about how I have such a limp dick.

>>14594256

Nope I never been in these threads before, mostly because I never see them but I like her more than just tits, I like grapple characters ever since I played tekken as king I simply love grapple base characters. Plus she has nice tits so.

>>14594256

>we're excited to bring blade strangers to players in 2018!

<yeah, sure, but how will you support the game with DLC?

I want to strangle these fucking people. He could have asked about the roster or online functionality, but no.

>>14594256

Man I really hope Nicalis doesn't fuck over Studio Saizensen, I really like their stuff. I'm gonna get really depressed if Nicalis gets the localization rights for the next umihara game

>>14591057

Are you for real comparing fictional characters with niggerspeak over bruportufellos?!?

If I cared to take your bait:

Jax, Jade, Tanya, Balrog, Dee Jay, Dudley, Birdie, Elena, Zasalamel, Mike Tyson, King, Storm, Blade, Black Panther, Adam Hunter, War Machine/James Rhodes, Luke Cage, Cyborg, Darun Misters I can continue but you get the point.

English Niggers>=Brashits>=Spics

>>14592546

So why haven't you cracked it yet anon?

>>14594275

Newfags unwelcomed

>>14594751

Xi is shit tho outside the sub boss characters tho

>>14594751

>When is kof 11 coming snk?

Probably as a PS2 classics for the PS4 at most. SNK is focusing only on new games (KOFXIV, SNK Heroines and an implied unnanounced game). The others are emulated NeoGeo ROMs by CodeMystics and DotEmu like KOF'97GM and emulated PS2 games on PS4 since Sony has its own emulator.

>>14594774

>>14594812

XI is fun but due to the change of philosophy on their hitboxes, the game is much more "hop friendly" with Kula's (air) d.C being the most prominent example. The Tag mechanic was greatly improved from 2003 but the balance is far from being the best of the series but looks like some love or are masochists Oswald enough to have him added to XIV.

>>14594890

Too bad this looks to be Arcade-only just like those NJPW stuff.

SFxT, SFV or MvCi

now choose

>>14596188

To buy or play? I would never recommend you to buy SFxT but I think it's the most fun of the three.

>>14596188

SFxT, not even close.

Someone post more Shermie.

>>14596188

SF Zero

>>14596313

No

>>14596384

Nice

>>14596391

What are you talking about? Kuma and Panda don't have shit in Tekken 7. Their actual customisation options are stuck on arcade. I want to play Kuma who looks like a dog breed, but I can't because Nips.

>>14591057

>But, about the look, I think it will be difficult to change that, the game is supposed to be pretty much complete already.

Well it's not like they need to remake the game from scratch, they just need to fix the shitty lighting and washed out colors.

>>14596541

Jack and Gigas still have one of the best customs in T7 imo.

>>14596541

>I want to play Kuma who looks like a dog breed

Bara furry detected.

>>14596709

>Is there any chance it will come back?

Capcom is fucking dead you idiot.

>>14596574

>3.00 goes live next week on April 12

for PS4. PC gets it (((late))) april

I don't know too much about SF, so I'd appreciate it if any series veterans could correct me on this.

>>14596963

>Or one option is so good there is no reason to use others?

This, mostly. If your background is something like Tekken then your idea of what a combo is/does is fundamentally different from 2D. When you have the opportunity to punish in a 2D fighter, your combo options should make you ask a question: what do I want to prioritize? You could do the combo that does the most damage, the combo that carries your opponent closest to the corner, the combo that build the most meter, or the combo that leaves you the most favourable for okizeme.

In SFV, these combos are usually the same thing, and that combo is almost always easy enough anyone can do it with an afternoon of practice (season 2 Boxer was famously able to carry an opponent from one corner to the other while doing 40% or more depending on character health). SF uses link-based combos where moves don't usually cancel into each other and special moves don't usually net you juggle opportunities unless they are specifically designed to juggle people, so combos tend to be short and powerful (watch some 3S Ken to see what I mean - his super art 3 lets him tack 20% damage onto just about any neutral poke, which is very strong). The series is explicitly not usually combo-focused compared to something like KI or an anime game, but the combos are so good & easy, and the defensive options are so bad, it's much more braindead than older SF games.

>Also what is it lacking in defense compared to others?

There are two ways to counteract offence in 2D: fundamentals (shimmying, mashing, whiff punishing, etc.) and system mechanics (V-Reversal in SFV). Using fundamentals in SFV is tough because the "fast, counter-poke" moves tend to be slow and stubby compared to the "moderate, big damage" moves. The Crush Counter system, although not as bad as it was, means the defender will eat big damage if he mistimes a mash.

The system mechanics are more clear-cut:

>Throw tech option selecting

In older SF games (3S and SFIV at least, I'm not familiar with how it worked in Alpha) you can't throw while crouching, but you can be thrown and that means you can tech, so holding 1 and inputting LP+LK will get you a throw tech if your opponent tries to throw you, or a fast, safe attack if he tries to move close. This does not work in SFV because you must be standing to tech throws, which means you can be hit by lows.

>DP invincibility

Dragon Punch/Shoryuken move are invincible, but very unsafe, which balances them out. One of SFV's patches removed invincibility on everything but EX DPs, which means you need to spend meter in order to have a chance to take a huge gamble.

>V-Reversal

Costs meter, can only be done from blockstun, and can be punished on block. Most "semi-invincible reversals" in 2D games are punishable, but SFV has very little for the defender to do so the risk becomes worse because it's all the player can do.

Compare it to Guilty Gear Xrd, which has Instant Blocking, Faultless Defence, Blitzing (can be charged for different properties), 0f throws which beat normals, Burst, and so on. Embed related goes into a bit more detail.

Simplement, c'est tout merde et les jouers nont pas de choix.

>>14597173

I didn't realize how long and autistic this would be. Sorry.

>>14597173

>>14597190

Thanks for it, I'm the guy who asked it but ID might be different

Anyone up for playing some DBFZ? Im just bored and just practicing Broly.

>>14597446

You'd probably have better luck in the d i s c o r d in the OP.

>>14597462

Well I must be blind cause I cant see it.

>>14597504

>>14589540

>disagreement group: https://disagreement.gg/DbHMSCd

So what's your guys thoughts on street fighter 3, considering it's a lot of people's favorites

>>14597659

Jesus Christ, she looks like she belongs in a fucking hut with a jiggaboo spear.

>>14597659

I like fat asses and I like muscles. But what in tarnation is this?

polite and confounded sage

This question surfaced in another thread and it interested me so I figured I'd ask it here: how should random elements be handled in fighting games, if at all?

>Guilty Gear's Faust

Items are completely random, but many are symmetrical and have just as much chance to be bad for him as for the opponent and several are outright bad. To capitalize on anything, the player must be aware of the situation and Faust's move properties. Rev2 introduced "jackpot" items to make things more interesting, so he effectively has two subsets of items.

>Persona 4 Arena's Teddie

His items are completely nonrandom, but there are a fucking tonne of them and he can throw from two points "on the wheel," so to speak, which are always sequential polar opposites. This is interesting because you know what your items are, but it can create a disparity between your knowledge and the poor sap you're playing against, since the items appear random to him and he's not exactly going to sit down and lab it out himself.

Personally in the autistic fighting game idea all fighting game players have, I'd like to have an item throw character who has a set number of items and throws them randomly, but who must throw one of each before seeing a duplicate. This would allow for random items, but as the player works his way through the set, there would come a point when the potential item pool would be very easily known (say, 3 or so) and then guaranteed (the last item in each cycle).

>>14598051

>SFV replacement

Don't they plan to keep this abomination alive till 2020 or somesuch?

>>14597070

I wonder how much they paid Steve and Hoop Boy to be a port of this show.

>>14598247

Awww, she is the best vampire. <3

>>14591137

>Can somebody archive this

I can't do it myself, but there is a program called Twitch Leecher which lets you download VoDs. It's a small hassle to use because Twitch is paranoid about people stealing their memes, but it works.

>>14596384

Rip this video

>>14599299

Under Night In-birth is the best new fighter IP this generation. UNIELst just improves on everything and adds god tier training mode features that helps you isolate problems in your combos to let you really focus on fixing that.

I'd say wait for the eventual PC port based on how UNIEL's PC community is a lot easier to pull together than the PS3 version's community was, but who fucking knows what ASW will announce it since they're too busy scamming people with BBCT

>>14599910

For the last time; Shermie is fucking dead during XIV and XIV isn't a dream match game.

She'll never be in XIV, wait for XV

>>14600095

He hasnt. hes being lazy, unless hes a woman making such an announcement will not help him at all.

>>14596709

>>14596372

>>14597659

SF Zero mechanics were built on SF2, so it's still street fighter to me. Wish I got more into it back then. Too bad SF Anniversary won't have the Zero3UpperDash with all the characters including Yun and Ingrid. I would buy that for PC on steam…

>>14597583

>SF3

Great animation but too character design was too Darkstalkers at times. Also despite the new characters, the design choice felt too conservative. It's a bad first impression that despite saying only Ken & Ryu are recurring; then have a black boxer, Dan 2.0 and Blanka/Dhalsim's love child.

As for gameplay, it feels like KOF with the universal overhead hop/jump/super jump and parry making one-hit fireballs useless.

3SOE should have a rebalance option…maybe something like this? http://mikezsez.blogspot.com.au/2015/12/what-id-change-for-third-strike-upper-3s.html

Also Ryu's hurricane kick needs to be great again like in the fanmod 4th strike.

Another thing dumb that Capcom did make then was split the Street Fighter fans by having SF Zero and SF3 out at the same time.

>>14597659

SFV has no V-ism. What a waste…

V-ism MAKI is OP? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxpVyfzhIPU

>>14601539

I always thought of Remy as a KoF reject.

>>14601549

From what I heard in japan they don't even touch five and they just play 4 in the arcades.

>>14599299

only way to pirate is through vita

>>14599299

Skullgirls was never good.

>>14597070

You people think this will be successful? It's interesting that LTG made it in as AFAIK he's hated by pretty much everyone

>>14602251

They should have let DSP in as well.

>>14602410

>DSP jerks off in the living room

>WOOOW bugged camera mechanics

>>14602464

Looks to be happening right now.

By the way, Mary's new VA is a boat waifu from australian heritage: http://www.mmcafe.com/news/posts/10266.html

>>14602490

>that fucking sound during the reveal

Did they hire a bunch of gopniks for doing sound tech?

Shermiefags rejoice!

>>14602651

Yay

>>14602651

>>14602671

>>14602712

>>14602886

She will be in dlc pack #3.

>>14599299

Why is anybody shocked at this. Mike Z does not have blood in his veins but soy. All he ever achieved in life is taking credit for Alex Ahad's work.

>>14602931

Of KOF XIV? Nope. Next pack is gonna be Shingo, Hinako, Jubei and Sho Hayate

>>14603081

>it posted before I was done

FUCK YOU TOO

>story starts with Raiden and co trying to put the pressure on Kotal

>Kotal just needs help because jesus fuck he wants Outworld to not suck

>strikes up a partnership with Liu Kang to basically be a bouncer for the tournament

>chance to introduce/bring back characters from the Netherrealm

>Could make Scorpion's Summon minion or Belokk fighters

<Will likely get castrated by WB

<will have more flat chested retards

<will likely have the birch bitch back ruining lines forever more

<will likely have cassie do something shittacular

>will probably have Shang Tsung return with an army of Mileena at his command

>>14603055

Yeah, one of those has to be a metal slug girl.

nina is fun

>>14599299

it's an improvement over uniel in every way but the playerbase is small, another one of those games you pretty much have to play during prime hours to get consistent matches.

skullgirls is a actually a fun & really well made game despite all of mike z's efforts to convince everyone otherwise

>>14603727

Do you usually wish /pol/ a happy hannukha?

>>14603782

Yes. and they are very happy to hear from me

>>14602651

oh boy

>>14603916

>watch two KoF character reveal trailers

>related videos begin filling with spanish political talk shows

LA COMMUNIDO DE LOS REYES DE GUERREROS

>>14604336

>Where are her eyes?

Hidden. For our own safety.

>>14604414

I play Yamcha, he feels the same to me

>Fighting Bardock really feels frustrating so far.

I find Broly to be more annoying what with his armor. I don't think the game even has any decent tools to deal with it. Beams don't do shit and raw grab is worthless. More corner rape characters is just what this game needed.

>I'm about to just go back to heritage for the future for good

Same. Ever since the DLC release, playing FighterZ has been making me want to go back to 3s

>Latest Excellent Adventures has 23k views and was uploaded about 3 months ago

>And has Sherry and James Chen as guests

>Live stream on twitch atm has 60 views

Imagine being this JUSTed lads

>>14590192

less than a week its broken

>>14591085

lern2english, also jerry's starting gear is the only armor in the game that doesn't look like shit

>>14603100

Mileena a shit. Jade is where it's at.

>>14596384

Where's the jap audio version?

>>14603055

I'm Calling it now; the Cop is Fio from Metal Slug. It has to be.

>>14604336

>I don't get Shermie's appeal

That's because you're gay anon.

>>14606763

>jerry's starting gear is the only armor in the game that doesn't look like shit

Except the armours in the other anon's images look really good and most of the armours in the game look somewhat similar anyway.

>>14607073

That is the Japanese audio.

>>14603237

Is it wrong if i want Luong to seduce and take my virginity?

>>14607196

How do you live with such great taste, anon?

>>14607317

I don't get it, if these two games are both using kof 14 engine and assets than does means that Shermie is "complete" and they could port her to kof 14?

>>14607317

>NISA

still shit

>>14607487

>Life, Hometown and…?

The Holy See? Paradise? A place to rest your weary head?

>>14607729

I don't want to encourage avatarfagging or waifuposting, but some people lurk these threads just to look at hot fightan girls. So including lewds (tasteful or otherwise) in your normal posts is always appreciated.

>>14607729

>>14607994

Give the source mates.

>>14608219

>>14608251

I don't have the image set of that Mileena cosplay myself since I never really cared for MK, but I'm sure some industrious anon will be happy to post the entire thing and help you two out.

>>14592408

I want MK Fire and ice already, shaolin monks was great in couch co-op.

>>14608636

I couldn't compete personally, but I'm ambivalent about it. Everyone remembers the Shazbowl and a multi-game team tournament could be fun, but I honestly don't even want to associate with 4chan these days.

If you're from there, you shouldn't be here.

>>14608636

Nominating our BO the pakistani of peace.

>>14608418

Is it really a man or are you just kidding?

Does anyone have the Twitch archive where that guy who worked on MvCi discussed how he wasn't allowed to combo Marvel characters? I don't want it to be lost to Twitch's memory hole system.

>>14608919

>drug-addled polan Sephiroth instead of divine thighs

It's almost like they hate money.

>>14602651

The regular outfit portrait in the group photo looks quite out of place, would rather have the royal slut look there.

>she'll never OOOOOHOHOHOHO~ at your dick while wearing that outfit

>>14603916

>>14603993

I feel bad for SNK after their revival.

>be struggling in Konami and mobile hell for ages

>chinks buy your stuff for good money and effectively remove you from pachinko hell, we vidya now

>get a new non-port, non-mobile game without reused assets for the first time in 7 years

>get progressively better with each passing trailer

>pander to the places that put you on the map (China, Mexico, BrazilSouth America)

<get ignored in the US for either not being as flashy as XRD/FighterZ, nor as graphically polished as Tekken 7, nor buying your place like Capcom

<still get shat on for "muh ps2 graphix" by the same people that defend SFV and MVCi to this day

<still can't make it in the US, get the reputation of "the Mexican/Hue/Chink fightan"

Still,

<PAX East

do people even give a shit about vidya, let alone fighting games there? In the right place the reveal would've had more impact. For comparison.

vf5 boyos

>>14609544

If anyone is actually in that area, this is a good spot

I happen to be there right now

>>14609233

>do people even give a shit about vidya, let alone fighting games there?

They shouldn't have partnered with NISA. They decided to partner with a company who's terrible fanbase does not care about fighting games in the slightest and has pissed off a big chunk of the market with their bullshit over the years.

NISA has no clue how to advertise or market Fighting/Arcade games, SNK decided to go with the absolute worst pairing possible for localizations. Now they're trapped with an ever smaller market now that they got SNK fans ignoring SNK games because NISA's involvement.

Look at the terrible job NISA has done with advertising the games; the only reason people even know the game exists is because the NIntendo direct which could have easily done with any other company. Hell there are people that think the game is a Switch exclusive still and are ignoring it because of that.

The only thing NISA has done for SNK so far is get some of their fan's credit card information stolen.

>>14600095

He probably had his stupid fans do it to get sympathy.

>>14611280

Only a month or two in BB myself but Hakumen sounds right up your alley. His drive can parry and he uses magatama for moves loosely similar to how Jam uses cards for her moves. His magatama charge passively rather than manually like with Jam's cards.

>>14611280

GG combos tend to be shorter and more compact, whereas BB characters have many more special moves for the purpose of extending combos and OTGing opponents. The combos are usually much longer than GG combos, and personally it's why I find them less interesting and more difficult to parse.

As for your main, you might like Hakumen but he's more about playing neutral and counterpoking since his pressure is very plain. If you don't like him, then you may try Azrael, Makoto, Valkenheim, or Bullet.

>>14611431

>niggerdagger

>>14611505

>Zato and Millia

Yeah, Zato has some of the game's longest combos and Millia can do the same if she opens you up correctly. If you compare the shotos the difference becomes more apparent: Xrd Sol requires the corner for giant combos, and even then it's special move > special move > special move >air gatling > ground bounce > special move. Even XX Sol's Sidewinder loops are "more logical" visually since it's just Sidewinder with small adjustments for spacing/sweetspot accuracy.

A friend of mine plays Ragna and it seems like he gets to loop whatever the fuck he wants from anywhere on the screen at least three or four times. Then I make up the damage in four Hakumen hits and it hurts a little less.

>SamSho

What was the tourney like? Is there a meta to SamShoVSP?

>>14611292

>Hakumen

Will try him out. Thanks.

>>14611390

>GG combos tend to be shorter and more compact, whereas BB characters have many more special moves for the purpose of extending combos and OTGing opponents. The combos are usually much longer than GG combos, and personally it's why I find them less interesting and more difficult to parse.

That's what I remember reading. Thanks.

>As for your main, you might like Hakumen but he's more about playing neutral and counterpoking since his pressure is very plain. If you don't like him, then you may try Azrael, Makoto, Valkenheim, or Bullet.

Cool. I was hoping for a range of characters to try out.

>>14611505

>Litchi? She has some setups with her pole and she's your token chinese girl.

Sounds great. Maybe I just have a thing for nippon's take on a classical chinese girl.

>I only played Xrd-SIGN- for a few months but against Zato and Millia I could pretty much drop the controller while guy depleted my HP in the lobbies.

I feel like recovery isn't emphasized enough in fighting games. I'm not saying you shouldn't have had that problem, a long combo in itself (when designed right and fair) takes a lot of practice to unleash with consistency, but there's hardly much emphasis on finding ways to escape them. Unfortunately it seems like the only way of finding out how to escape is to experience the punishment when you get pulled in and learn how to get out. Of course all of this is aside from Burst which when used up and you don't know any way out means the match is done.

>>14598090

Both have their particular feel and uses

Faust-style random items create the mentality of "capitalize on the situation". There is a brief moment when both players make note of the item that has been thrown upwards, and then based on that information both players react accordingly. This is why spacing is important as you are trying to ensure that the odd chance of a hammer or poison vial gets to land. As well as giving space for your mini-mi's to land and walk in. Meteor or bomb is when you want to apply lots of pressure to get your opponent to stay in an unfavorable area and block low or high so they can't guard the resulting attack.

In this respect, it's much like the "random" nature of Zappa's ghosts as I think the idea is for the Faust/Zappa player to be more used to switching gears based on what is drawn from the lottery.

Teddie-style is based more around understanding your combos and item sequence and most recently Captain Ginyu continues this idea. In this case the idea is knowing which item is up next, and how best to capitalize on it which is why sometimes Teddie players throw out an item in order to get themselves locked onto a more favorable one.

Personally I prefer the more chaotic Faust style. It's less a burden on me to remember a sequence and more about knowing what type of pressure or neutral to engage in once an item has been thrown. Ironically this makes it easier for me to adapt to the larger variety of items Faust has even though most are similar in nature. I can't into Teddie combos because I don't want to commit the time to memorizing specific sequences.

There any fighting games with sexy and mature kunoichi?

>>14612217

Taki's not very cougar-y, I thought.

>>14612291

I'm calling bullshit on that right now if you don't have a source

>>14612246

Shes not getting any younger.

>>14612313

You're not very smart, are you?

>>14612317

Yeah but they keep her young forever.

>>14599299

>skullgirls

The sad thing is, the game didn't have lasting appeal despite how hyped I was during the kickstarter. Even went back to the forums and there are less than 10 members online and a shit ton of bots.

Skullgirls could have been great, but it just doesn't feel like that good a fighter and I blame trying to replicate MvC2 which is just as dull a game despite it's legacy.

>>14612915

>just as dull a game despite it's legacy

I've only played about 30 minutes of Marvel 2, but it was a lot of fun. Are you referring to the Sentinal/Storm/Magneto dominance or is there something about the game you dislike?

>>14612956

>or is there something about the game you dislike?

My general feelings about MvC2 is that a lot of characters don't have a particular "feel" to them since the majority of the roster has such few moves in relations to the more prominent characters. And really those characters only have things like "big size", "air mobility" and "high damaging lvl 1 super" working for them. My background was with Guilty Gear and Smash Bros and the former had characters that in some ways had too many options so you wind up not using everything they have on the move list. And GG's roster feels distinct and focused so even though it has less than half the roster of MvC2, I can actually identify all the characters. For an example of a Vs game that really resonated with me, look at TvC which had a lot of unique mechanics (Polimar emblem charges, Volnutt stances, Batsu armor, etc) for characters. MvC3 does this better as well.

MvC2 is also a game I can't appreciate on a mechanical level for it's infinites, lack of defensive options, and reset focused gameplay which SG tried to mitigate with the ISP. But it still resulted in a game where One Hit Death Touches happen. Not something that really happens too often in casuals, but going online where only the few people who still play the game are, and it means more often than not you're going to lose a character if you fuck up once.

And I can't stress it enough but the roster is just bland. The original 8 feel well designed, but with such an emphasis on rushdown playstyles and the nerfs to things like Head-off Ms. Fortune it sometimes samey since unique mechanics aren't as pronounced as they used to. The IGG characters outside of Squiggly felt a bit rushed out the door and Beowulf in particular is just a wasted slot when there were other options available including a puppet character, a 3-in-1 character like Aria from KI, giants, mech pilots, a time traveler, etc. Between the musings I did on the forums before the Juju incident, and some stuff I've talked about on other sites, I'm tempted to make my own fighting game just to actually realize some possibly interesting character mechanics.

I feel like all the interesting characters got shafted by the crowd funding but that just proved three things to me; Fans are dumb and incapable of making decisions that would benefit the game in the long run (voting in just 1 of the required story characters), devs should not allow character votes ever, and that LZ can't design characters on a budget. I've lost faith in LZ's ability to design characters given how BB, Eliza, and Beowulf turned out since they had less time and money to really work those ideas to the same polish the original roster had.

All this is to say, MvC2 is a fighting game that to me doesn't have a real draw. Characters I did like were shallow and sometimes useless. It's probably a symptom of designing for a team based fighter but I like more fleshed out designs. I didn't play fighting games in the arcades when it was popular, I played in basements and GG was king there. I'm more used to 1v1 fighters and SG seemed like a shining beacon letting me just play the team size I wanted even if it was vs a larger team. But over time I just stopped playing because the game doesn't have much going for it to keep interest.

Maybe a SG2 could get me back playing, but the devs are such tossers on Twitter and so self fellating, that I don't care for the likes of Mike and Mariel at all and I wish Alex would just find another studio that would let him draw sexy women.

>>14613209

>TvC

You're the second person I've had recommend it to me. I really need to find a stable emulation build and bring it to my local scene.

>infinites

I guess I appreciate it because of that, although perhaps that's because I don't play the game. There's a certain giddiness knowing no matter which characters I pick, I have a decent chance of assembling combos only limited by meter/screen positioning; Iron Man and Magneto, memes aside, I do find boring because their infinites don't require assists or anything special.

>the Juju incident

Was that the time they patched out four frames of panties? I haven't heard the name before.

>roster

I think you're the first man I've heard say he dislikes the roster of MvC2. Do you have a background in comics which gives you more familiarity with the characters? I never read anything more than a box of Spiderman comics my dad kept in the attic, so I get more of a kick out of seeing people like Venom and Shuma-Gorath on the roster than I do actually playing them.

That was a good post; thank you.

Making this much shorter.

>>14613623

>Was that the time they patched out four frames of panties? I haven't heard the name before.

Long story short, a fan design based around a line of in-game dialogue was created and both the community and developers liked it. Talks were had with the creator of the design to possibly incorporate her into the game as a playable character and one that would be up for vote during the IGG campaign.

They had the guy sign a NDA after talks went through but he goes and talks about it the next day. This killed the actual character for good, and the line was removed from the game. And the mods purged the character speculation threads since people had been thinking up mechanics for the unplayable characters and it was seen as a legal liability should any ideas that appear in there make it into the game and someone rises a suit.

>I think you're the first man I've heard say he dislikes the roster of MvC2. Do you have a background in comics which gives you more familiarity with the characters?

It's less to do with any knowledge of the characters and more my philosophy on what makes a good roster. For a game like MvC2, when I did play around. There are characters that clearly had more time put into them than others. Some characters feel like reskins, and others feel like they only have 2 specials, a super, and the basic number of normals. But not much beyond that. So despite the size of it, lots of characters feel unusable, incomplete, or just wasted slots. MvC3 improves this by shrinking the cast but making everyone actually fleshed out.

And TvC is a good game. If you can, definitely bring it to your locals and see how people react.

>>14612915

>>14613050

I remember there was a big kerfluffle back in late 2014 where the mod team just up and removed the off-topic section of the forums because "more people were going to off-topic than talking about the game itself." Not like people were discussing the game anyway; at that point, the number of artfags / lorefags / whateverfags outnumbered the actual players by like 10 to 1. IIRC, a good number of people said "fuck it" and left the forums wholesale, myself included.

Someone I know said that they've since brought back the off-topic forums, but the guy basically shits on everything while putting ArcSys and Lab Zero on a pedestal anyway, so whatever.

>>14611574

>What was the tourney like?

Bunch of hues but only 3 or 4 knew how to play the game: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/247850379

>Is there a meta to SamShoVSP?

Yes but you probably won't find it here. Samurai Shodown is all about the clean hits and punishing mistakes. EVERYTHING is negative so a blocked or whiff might be letal depending on your character.

>>14615127

I really gotta play that game since my fingers can't combo for shit. Just wish there was more modes beside survival and arcade.

>>14614615

It's a good example of "how not to run your community" but also is a good lead in to the question of why a community stays with a title in the first place. In this case, it was clear years ago that SG succeeded in drawing in the casual audience, but that's not necessarily a bad thing as those people can keep up the hype and the more artistically inclined can provide content that everyone can enjoy.

When you cut them loose, who do you have left? And when those people start to leave because they move on to other fighters or just lose interest with SG, how do you re-ignite the fire?

I just really hate that I was so into that game for as long as I was and now see it as a waste of potential and time.

>>14593505

>suck ass at including women and still does

surely this is bait

>>14618479

>As for the MvC2 guy,

It's still a popular game, just one that doesn't work for me even when I played it in arcades. Where I lived the local skating rink had Darkstalkers, Mortal Kombat, and a MvC2 cabinet. (Maybe it also had some street fighter cabinet I honestly don't remember). People did crowd around the MK and MvC2 machines which is why I gave it a try and I did use the guys I knew from Marvel Super Heroes (Captain America, Spiderman) and added Cyclops later.

The problem isn't that MvC2 wasn't popular or that I missed it during it's heyday. It's that at the time I was such a scrub a game where I could never get more than a few hits in, and where that wasn't as big a deal as knowing long combos and matchups was a big turn off. Whereas knowing a L>M>H string in DS wasn't as bad even when if I fumbled the inputs on other moves. And the people who did play DS tended to be around my age so we were all pretty bad so matches didn't end after a few exchanges.

That whole rant comes from looking back and trying to give MvC2 another try and by that time I'd been playing GG since XX on the PS2 for years so while I would still consider myself a casual, I'd learned how to actually play a fighting game beyond mashing buttons and could actually pick up and practice characters intelligently. Then I realize that I probably would have still not liked MvC2 but at least I can justify why beyond "I suck at blocking"

>>14618813

git gud

>>14618813

I'll bite; It's the basis for 2d fighters. It builds fundamentals. As for projectile spamming, Boxer & Claw are top-tier in that game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_5iMf3ziOs

https://www.youtube.com/user/Fighter101net/videos

>>14619356

I've not used the switch version but the RAP Hayabusa is a great stick, and pretty easily moddable if you decide you don't like the buttons or stick.

>>14621031

isn't he also a nigger

>>14621031

The only way he would make it to grand finals if it's a shitty NetherRealm Studios game and I don't play that trash.

>>14622514

I have wondered how he would fare in games like GG or Street Fighter since I've never seen him play those games. He seems to excel at games that are reset heavy and team games where you can 100% a character with a single confirmation. Not saying he isn't good in his own right.

>>14622872

He's very good at finding dominant strategies and leveraging them in 33/33/33 or 50/50 situations which either kill outright or put him at a huge life lead to take more risks, which is exactly what Skullgirls, NRS, and DBFZ tournaments are. Someone ran the numbers on Twitter and in his set with GO1 at Final Round, he dragon rushed 50something times and barely succeeded on a quarter of them, whereas GO1 DR'd maybe a dozen times but only whiffed or had it teched twice. He also folded almost every time the AGohan infinite blockstring was applied, whereas GO1 blocked his pressure with a much higher success rate.

He'd do poorly in a game like GG where you have a very active defence, or old SF games where footsies are more important. He literally wouldn't be able to play a game like UNIST unless he could commit Seth or Eltnum to muscle memory.

>>14623110

>He literally wouldn't be able to play a game like UNIST unless he could commit Seth or Eltnum to muscle memory.

I remember Sonicfox used to play UNIEL. He was a Carmine player IIRC.

>>14623140

when UNIST just came out there was one tournament that I think he made to semifinals or top 4

>>14623140

I forget Camine exists, but he does seem like a SonicFox character.

Oh, and for those of you who didn't pay attention to SFV's Season 3.5 patch, you're in for a laugh:

>V-Reversals had their active frames increased across the board, making them more difficult to punish

<FANG, Ed, and Gief's V-reversals are now unsafe on HIT because of this

>Menat, who was buffed significantly since her introduction in previous patches, was buffed again

>The leaf was nerfed back into mid-tier

>Balrog can combo into a command grab which gives him a hard knockdown and big damage

>Cammy was buffed, again, because Capcom didn't think she was good enough

>Urien was buffed, again

>Zeku went from unplayable trash to a top tier because he can apply knockdowns into crossups anywhere on the screen

>Rashid got his ankles broken

>Alex was nerfed, again

>Juri was nerfed, again

>Ryu was nerfed, again

>Ken drops combos when in V-Trigger 1 which he wouldn't drop normally

At least you can input a code to give Juri her boobs back in the Lilith costume.

>>14621031

Smack his girlfriends' ass.

>>14623379

>girlfriend

>>14624137

>free game has more players than paid game + DLC

How could have this happened?

>>14613209

I'll never understand what older players find so good about MVC2. the magic series in that game fucked over the cast since the auto combo system removed the ability of having different types of combos from characters thanks to the removal of 3 punches and 3 kick buttons

>>14590981

Who main ROCK in Garou: Mark of the Wolves?

>>14627527

>But maybe it's just not your thing

I thought I was clear but yeah, this is 100% a personal thing. However "broken" MvC2 is, people like it, I just never got into it myself. And there isn't anything wrong with MvC2 being the way it is, I like games that could be consider broken, just in ways I like them.

If people like infinite combos more power to them. But I can't really jive with that stuff myself and SG did betray the promise of mitigating those things from my perspective. And the issue of Roster just comes down to me favoring games where characters have a plethora of options as opposed to how basic VS series characters can seem by comparison. This isn't 100% true as I really like how straightforward UNIEL characters are and I really like TvC as a title and it's a shame it was released on the Wii which didn't do it any favors.

>>14627527

>hues play SG

-50% surprised

>>14627616

>That gives me more mental images of juri than chun li

that woman has the butt and thighs the size of SFV chun-li. that is why and celebrities are using games and anime to gain attention. kardashian posting franxx shit, drake playing fortnite etc.