/v/ - Video Games

I honestly doubt Cyberpunk 2077 will hit that spot, for one specific reason. Regardless of how you feel about the Witcher I doubt you can call the gameplay of those games anything but serviceable at best, even if you like Arkham gameplay.

One lower profile game I know of is this, though it's more industrial than the setting you're looking for and probably less amenable to wandering around being comfy. Their last game was neat but had terrible combat balance, hopefully they improve on that with this: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1649838104/copper-dreams

inb4 autistic screeching about kickstarter and every character not being aryan

Just here to sage and call the following retard a dumb fuck.

>>14561912

You're a dumb fuck.

I wish there was a good stargate game that was in a way based on the modern xcom mechanics

>>14561928

Mark loves reddit and cuckchan

Actually I wanted to ask if there's anything like Syndicate or Syndicate Wars, I tried Satellite Reign but it ran like ass on my PC and from what I saw buildings and structures that I had wrecked respawned eventually so that sucked me out.

>>14561928

Low energy, perhaps some more soylent will give you the protein you need to fight off people who can detect your latent homosexuality online.

>>14561946

>I wanted to ask if there's anything like Syndicate or Syndicate Wars

Not as far as I know. Satellite Reign was the first game that actually tried (and failed) to create a spiritual sequel to Syndicate.

>but it ran like ass on my PC

Don't worry, it runs like ass on all PCs.

>>14561884

Ok, anon. I'll call you right way when a new thread is made. We wouldn't want to miss out on those flaming hot opinions.

>>14562019

That's bullshit. All they would need to do is make the corporations be run by Nazis and call it a day. The reason they don't bother with cyberpunk is that the genre is as good as dead because we are living it.

I wish there were less redditors on /v/

>>14562019

The hero must always be christian, and in an alien hellscape, they're undoubtedly christian. They can never leave this comfortable confusion for the extremes of experience or people will immediately recognize the truth of their situation.

>>14562072

The concept, the setting, the aesthetics and David Bowie were all great but most of the gameplay sucked tbh. Such a waste. I'd love to see a cyberpunk open world game with body hopping done right.

CD project will save the cyberpunk genre.

I hope CP2077 is good. I want it to be a proper RPG, in that any approach is viable combined with Deus Ex approach to level design so any approach has defined ways to go about an objective. Also some kind of social element, like dating and hitting the arcade.

>>14561835

>I wish there were more cyberpunk games

but all you have to do is walk outside in present day society to take part in the cyberpunk experience

If you want full robutts though, wait about 2 years

>>14561835

>All I want to do is walk through 2070s Hong Kong in the rain at night while music like this plays

Fuck that pseudo retro shit. Have some Vangelis instead, filthy casual. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAwo7DPUFUM

>Check out this environment that a 3D artist made in his spare time

>The closest thing I can find is this game

Third person view with a non-centered character, why do devs keep doing that? I HATE IT SO MUCH.

>>14561835

I'm gunna shill for Ruiner in here. Despite being published by Devolver, it was incredibly fun. If you're not a fan of top-down mouse pointy shooters you probbaly won't like it. I'm pretty ambivalent towards them, but the setting and aesthetics made Ruiner a lot of fun for me.

>>14562441

>Have some Vangelis instead

Good post but I like Blade Runner Blues better

>>14562019

>The end goals they're striving for have already largely been reached

This is very true, and it's something a lot of people don't get. Cyberpunk has been marred by leftists writers in the past who try to shoehorn their narrative into it, but ultimately the genre represents the end results of everything they're fighting for. I would argue that it's ultimately a right-wing/nationalist genre, because it depicts the results of globalism run amok.

>Cyberpunk as a genre is marked by that technology being abused by corporations, governments, private individuals, in a lawless (or underground) power struggle

>the technology used to reach those goals is being subverted by governments, private organizations, and mega-corporations to manipulate each other

This is already happening, and has been happening for longer than we're probably aware. In particular, government crackdowns on hackers in the 80's and 90's were not because the government didn't understand computers, but rather because they wanted to suppress and remove anyone who could pose a potential threat to their burgeoning electronic surveillance network.

>>14561946

Satellite Reign is pretty good, but I was put off a little by the UI and visuals. I love me some neon but I don't expect the entire fucking game to be lit up like a Christmas tree 24/7. I think it just needed a little bit more subtlety in its visual design.

>>14562854

I was pleasantly surprised by Ruiner. I don't really like top-down shooters but, like you said, the setting and aesthetic more than made up for that.

>>14562019

>lefties have values

Lefties just want big daddy government to pay for their soy lattes, macbook, and trendy apartment. The "values" that leftists spout is just them attempting to keep up the appearance of being "good" because they are white and thus have the capacity to feel shame.

>>14564372

No, it is going to be shit.

>>14561970

At the very least are there any games that play similarly?

>>14562355

Looks neat, is this a 3D artist's hobby project, a WIP of an upcoming game, or a finished product?

>>14564372

Let's hope not.

Oh forgot. Sleeping Dogs matches the aesthetic pretty well.

>>14561859

>Regardless of how you feel about the Witcher I doubt you can call the gameplay of those games anything but serviceable at best

Where did this meme come from?

>>14564720

Let's not act like the Witcher games have a complex and deep combat system. Hell, they don't even really have a complex or deep alchemy system, and that's kind of sad when you consider that Geralt is supposed to be a wizard at making potions and shit.

>>14562441

>Vangelis

Shame that they've hired Hans Zimmer and one of his drones for the soundtrack of Blade Runner 2049.

>>14561935

That's probably a better idea, but I still want a Stargate game similar in design to MGSV.

>>14565117

>CD Project Red have already shown their leftist colors when put a non-white and stronk womyn as the main character.

What are you talking about? /leftypol/, are you trying and failing to pretend you're /pol/ again?

>>14564742

Man, what the fuck happened to Hans Zimmer? His music used to be so good, now he's just the FWHOOOOOOM guy. It's like the directors just ask: hey, do Inception again.

>>14564729

Name me one complex combat system in video games that isn't shit to play

cyberpunk 2077

NEVER. EVER.

>>14567465

Looks like all concept art and no product.

>>14567516

We used to have all that minus the ww1 and korean war.

>>14567522

Keyword: used to

Not anymore. Never again. We are left with the relics of older times. New gems will never be created ever again.

>>14567524

Styx is alright for a stealth game. Can't say much for the rest of the genres though

>>14567516

What, ARMA 3 isn't a good milsim?

>>14567564

All ArmAs are garbage

>>14567516

>we won't get any good medieval games

http://store.steampowered.com/app/379430/Kingdom_Come_Deliverance/

Also being this fucking jaded, there's still good fighters, plenty of good tank games out there with a healthy player base. I think the war sim/fps scene is stuck in a rut for sure but im looking forward to the new UT. The triple A scene right now is definitely a tumor growing on the back of gaming but it's not ALL shit and the industry still has a very health platform for the competition to fight back and until that goes away im not going to sink this low.

Keep your chin up anon not all is lost.

>>14567864

>plenty of good tank games out there

World of Tanks is garbage, War Thunder is even more garbage, tank mods for Arma are also garbage. The only good tank games are 20 years old and horribly outdated.

Autistic tank milsim never ever.

>>14562030

You are lacking imagination my friend , It's way more complex , If (((they))) say that method A is used by Nazis/"Bad" people and the consumer realizes who uses method A in CY+3 they just got redpilled

The jewish trick mostly works on the premise that people are to lazy to think and what to be told things , and then they fall into self fulfilling prophecies , Most people think it's "wrong" or are straight up not allowed by law to talk about the outcome of things happening , under the risk of loosing , work , kids or freedom

>>14565215

>>14565117

There are layers that he didn't mention that already makes CDPRed above whatever the SJdeW can come up with

-Commons Sense,Not having to follow USA rules of (((Speech))),Working hard wanting to make the best game ,Players demanding high standards ,Having GOG ,Not having to care about consoles

The only thing I am worrying about is the combat system , I want it to be as hardcore as possible with 1 shot kills to the head and the leas amount of bullet sponging possible to keep it realistic , The setting kind of demands it , But I don't know how it worked in the paper one , so I hope people walking around with force fields is not a thing

>>14567484

What does "complex" mean to you ,Shooting in is a "simple" mechanic , but it involves a lot of predictions and decisions before during and after ,their complexity depends on the player

>>14562072

It was dumb. The only moment of value it had was when the power ranger looking demon in the apartment starts boxing you and that weird euro combat music starts playing. The ending is horrible, as it only acknowledges only a few of your reincarnations (which are actually possessions) and somewhere in the game you had to make a weird orc thing just kill itself to progress.

>>14572012

That doesn't even look like Harrison Ford.

>>14572332

Because that's not supposed to be Harrison Ford's character to begin with.

>>14561835

neon lights…

>>14564529

>meme spacing

that's not meme spacing you autistic fucking moron, thats spacing to separate your points so it's easier to understand what you are talking about.

No-ones mentioned the best but also deadest cyberpunk game??

Also how was Remember Me? I seem to remember it was a Hack 'n' Slash based in a dystopian neo-Paris not that it isn't already dystopian

That had a good A E S T H E T I C but I never heard good things about the gameplay, but then again I never head bad things either.

>>14572636

>deadest

>getting literally 70 players tonight in an event

u w0t m8

http://steamcommunity.com/app/244630/discussions/0/1697169163396612993/

>>14572650

>disagreement

>Only 5 people have replied to the thread

Just because one group of retards wants to hold a game night doesn't mean the game isn't dead.

>>14572680

why the fuck is there a word filter on dis*cord

>>14572686

Because it's cancer

>>14572686

Where do you newfags keep coming from?

>>14564529

Listen you illiterate nigger, there is a difference between meme spacing and separating paragraphs.

If anything, this would be meme spacing.

This right here.

Are you fucked?

>>14572739

Cuckchan has been leaking for a while

>>14567484

For me it's not so much about complexity even though that's a valid point, one button combat is kind of shitty but about the challenge, a simple combat system can be fine if it challenges you throughout the game and allows you to develop actual skill to perfect it. The combat system in mount and blade is a good example, in it's core it's very simple, but it's still challenging ,and thereby rewarding, even after hundreds of hours. Witcher 3 on the other hand has a very simple and easy combat system that doesn't put up much of a challenge after the first few hours, you have far too many invincibility frames while dodging and even dodging behind the attack is possible without getting hit, while your enemies can do no such thing, this alone makes the fighting system too easy, even on the highest difficulty, now add the spells and potions and the game becomes a cakewalk. There are plenty of other things wrong with Witcher 3 and it's a pretty mediocre game overall, I wouldn't get my hopes up for Cyberpunkt 2077 being any different

>>14567484

>>14549103

Just because you suck at it doesn't mean it's not good.

<all this bullshit talk about politics

Stop being retarded, it literally doesn't matter. The issue never was the ideology of the author, especially considering how much of a non-thing government tends to be in cyberpunk.

The problem is always lack of competent writers and people working with them so nobody has any fucking idea how to make a good cyberpunk game since everything else is tied to the world setting and story.

You can't have a retarded power fantasy where you augment yourself to godly levels or you break the bleak and harsh atmosphere of the world. How can you tell the player he is in an harsh and unforgiving world where he is just a tool for his hiher ups while the player can rip open skulls left and right at no cost or difficulty?

However because of this, how are you gonna make gameplay thats fun while trying to keep true to those concepts? The average modern dev has no idea so they either dont try or make something retarded.

You also have to present an actual gray world. Sure, corps are basically pyramid schemes and working for one is basically slavery, but they do bring safety in progress, plus decent rewards for smart people.

Rebels and Punks seem rad and the "good guys" but many of them also just want cash without honest work and even the idealogues end up killing a fuck ton of people on their crusades against "the man".

Who the fuck would actually be able to write a story with morals and ethics like these when you still have red/evil and blue/good moral choices that barely effect the game in most RPGs?

The question is: who would be capBle of creating a cyberpunk game that doesnt play like a power fantasy, respects the theme and doesnt present to you a toddler-tier story?

Thats why you dont see more cyberpunk games. Because everyone wants to be an Evil MurderMech or a Rebel fighting against Evil Corps.

>>14574508

>when you still have red/evil and blue/good moral choices

then make everyone evil, duh, its that easy.

>>14574755

Don't engage him.

>>14572650

>lot of noobs and randoms.

Neotoyko is best with experienced players.

>>14574755

Leftist politics is a good distraction from skinnerboxing, micro-transactions, yearly rehashes, pre-order crap, and other bullshit.

>>14574600

No it fucking isn't. If Cyberpunk was written by right-wing writers, all the rebels would terrorist stereotypes or all the corps would be soy producers or oversized banks instead. No nuance would be allowed because there was still an agenda to push.

Fundamentally, thats the issue. Nobody seems able to write about political themes without pushing an agenda in a black&white manner. Bioshock was the closest it came to and it still fell apart because of plot contrivances.

>>14574711

If you do that, the player has no reason not to be a selfish peick himself. You might as well not even bothering with morals if you're gonna be this lazy with it.

>>14574771

You could have the samething with right wing either. I never heard anyone complain about politics with Call of Duty for instance. Includes all rhose problems with its own right wing bias as well.

>>14564529

>implying that spacing is unique to reddit

>what is TeX

>>14571921

I honestly can't understand this /pol/ tier gibberish. All a dev has to do is make the enemy an evil nazi and all the generic enimies stormtroopers, as was the case in Deus Ex. Watch Doggies 2 even had a Trump stand-in as the big bad guy.

There is nothing stopping them from doing it again, except that they don't want to make cyberpunk games in the first place. The genre has completely died off because cyberpunk is, like all -punk genres, requires some sort of fun rebellious youth working against authority. That's not what modern youth are interested in, and are incredibly hostile to as they only know the world after 9/11. So no -punk things including cyber-punk because it simply does not sell.

It's that simple. Jews only care about money and cyberpunk does not make money.

>>14572636

I want to like Neotokyo but MP only games really suffer from a lack of content. Bot matches only go so far.

>>14574941

Holy shit, look in a mirror sometime, stupid nigger.

>>14561835

What's the first screen from?

>>14577552

I think you're just saying shit to make everyone stoop to your level of intellectually barren wasteland. Right wing SJWs do not even create anything, they don't have games, they don't have artists and they don't have writers. Fuck off.

>>14577555

>Right wing SJWs do not even create anything, they don't have games, they don't have artists and they don't have writers.

Probably because they don't even exist.

>>14577555

>right wing SJWs

Hm.

>>14577552

>>14577555

>>14577625

>>14577636

The bar cannot be set lower as its already in the negatives with leftists trying to force their particular utopian logic in cyberpunk.

And we have yet to see anything right-wing in the same field. You didn't even did worse, you did nothing at all as is expected of right wing hacks that only see vydia as a waste of time.

Tell me, how does it feel to actually be worse than shit crazy hacks?

>>14577616

It was a mistake to try and make DMC with a cyberpunk theme when a new IP would be far better.

And like I said, it failed horribly both because it played like a retarded power fantasy but also because of a terrible one-sided story. Virgil killing newborns and pregnant women simply doesn't even register until they need an extra villain for a last showdown.

>>14572636

I enjoyed Remember Me, but it wasn't anything exceptionally great. The best part about it was how it used the timetravel gimmick from Life is Strange for some puzzles. It had a really good aesthetic and soundtrack too.

Is EyE Cyberpunk, and, is it worth buying?

>>14579220

Vidya is a toy. It’s good for killing time and it’s a decent hobby. It’s not art and it’s not a lifestyle. I’ll say it right now, film isn’t art, photography isn’t art, video games are definitely not art. Just because someone produces content does not mean that they have any more say in what is “good” then non-content producers. That’s fallacious reasoning. I can be a food critic and not be a chef, be a film critic and not be a director. You saying, “hurr, at least they made something.” Is the last stand of a post modernist cretin that seeks to make the lowest forms of entertainment into the highest. Tommy Wiseau made The Room mostly on his own, does that mean that that it is a masterpiece just by virtue of it existing? Also, “right wing hacks” yet you fail to outline why you view them as such. It used to be that any poster on /pol/ could outline exactly the grievances that led them to that line of thinking, whether they lay blame on SJWs, Jews, or Leftists in general. Sadly, those days have passed, and with the advent of /leftypol/ we have two diametrically opposed forces working against each other, a conflict that sustains itself not out of any real slight or inciting incident, but rather a general distaste for the others beliefs. Egged on by newfag s who don’t even know the boards that well but know they must fight, because “We’ve always been at war with East Asia.”

>>14581198

>film isn't art

>photography isn't art

>video games aren't art

Yeah, I like the way you think. Tattoos aren't art, writing isn't art, drawing isn't art, painting isn't art, music isn't art, sculpting isn't generally art. Only sculpting the human form is art - and then it's only art if it's in the greco-roman style and done in marble.

Fuck off, retard. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about, you just have a sense of smug satisfaction or perhaps some kind of superiority complex but clearly either would be baseless.

>>14581007

EYE is great. I can't find my infographs on it but its worth a play or three.

>>14562019

That's an interesting definition to the genre. Wiki just states it as "low life, high tech".

Any place that describes genre's like that or is it something that just came off from the top of your head?

>>14576476

>requires some sort of fun rebellious youth working against authority.

Not true.

I'd kill for a similar game to the old Syndicate. Satellite Reign was more akin to the small guys beating up the big evil guy which was okay but not great. I want to be the big evil guy.

>>14561835

I think its done poorly like zombies rather than overplayed like WW2 shit. I have never played a truly good survival game. They're either fucking garbage like state of decay, half-finished multiplayer focused trash like Zomboid or 7 days to die, and so on. The only good 'zombie' games was shit like left 4 dead, where there is no longterm survival focus but rather just an arcadey shooter. Good but far from exploring all the shit in the genre.

Likewise for cyberpunk and mecha aswell but even worse because there aren't even half-assed games to try and weedle enjoyment out of. Where is my autistic cybernetics based game? Where is my top down cyber terrorist cell game? Where is my RPG Mecha game where you can customize the shit out of your bot? Nobody seems interested in doing shit like this for some reason and its a damn shame.

>>14579220

>cuck wanders into the thread, blames the right because leftist writers keep shitting up vidya

Nigger you're fucking stupid. All the good shit you played was likely made by someone who called themselves 'right leaning' or simply had no political leaning. Hell the only decent releases in the last 10 years have almost universally been 'Right Wing'. What a fucking moron you are.

>>14581260

>You will never have another game use the same camera system as Jedi Academy

>>14561835

I agree anon.

Just look at the Shadowrun community, they were given 3 "ok" games, an are desperate for more.

>>14581551

we don't talk about that OTHER one. (aka the Shooter).

>>14561835

0 interest in cyberpunk but apparently the new CD project red is set in that kinda enviroment i dunno lol x

>>14582102

I tried it. It's shit.

>>14582102

It's alright.

>>14579220

>And we have yet to see anything right-wing in the same field.

Big companies with big budgets hire lefties and remove people they know are right winged or don't agree with lefty shit. This happens in many fields and the genre of cyberpunk isn't exclusive to this. Then again cyberpunk is mostly about dystopian or "utopian" shit. Take Neuromancer for example.

>You didn't even did worse, you did nothing at all as is expected of right wing hacks that only see vydia as a waste of time

I'm not a good writer or a good programmer for that matter, nor do I work in those fields. And I'm sure the blame, according to you, can be put on you as well if I have to play along your logic.

>Tell me, how does it feel to actually be worse than shit crazy hacks?

Feels good, crazy hacks tend to ruin things for themselves while blaming others when their shit starts crumbling, much like you did.

>>14582102

No.. holyshit. I thought you were refering to the MegaDrive/Genesis version (which is also fantastic) and the Snes version is also amazing as well. I think we should've pointed out we meant modern NEW Shadowrun games. But yeah if you're going to bring up older games, Shadowruns had some amazing ones.

>>14577555

> ®ight-wing SJWs

/leftypol/ and redditors are not welcome here

>>14582100

>ZombiU

Shallow, shitty shooting because console, lacks proper autistic detail.

>Cyber-cop

See, now why can't they just make this but better and with better controls? I don't get modern gaming, they'll make the same boring shallow shit for years and years and years when all they have to do is go back to older games and add more and make them run a little better. It can't be that fuckin hard.

>They came out in japan over 20 years ago

To my eternal dismay

>>14581226

Anything that tries to entertain is not art. Video games are not art. The graphics/aesthetic and OST might be, but not the game. It's meant to give a cheap thrill for the hobbyists.

I'd argue that film isn't art either because their purpose is just to make money. They're like books, but done in 90 minutes, too reliant on actors to do their job (is their performance part of the "art" too?), and aren't art.

In that note, that's one of the things films and story-first video game have in common; they're inferior books with visuals and audio.

>>14567864

kingdom come was asscheeks though

>>14567516

see:

>>14583300

>>14583316

He's not wrong though. Ruiner is nothing special and it's not even that good.

Play Blade Runner you faggot.

>>14564529

>unironically willing to use shareblue memes

>being a weebfag with an obvious shit taste for art

red should have contrast once in awhile, you fucking shitbreed currynigger.

>>14572636

nigga we play every week

>>14572743

>now a single line is a paragraph

People around here get dumber and dumber.

sage for offtopic.

>>14583992

they (HSL) have explictly said as much on their disagreement for BLR. old shit is never coming back, pre-parity gameplay is never coming back, pre-parity UI is never coming back, and so on. they make 10x the money off the PS4 version that they do off the PC version and they're not big enough (or too lazy) to maintain two separate forks of the game so you get the consolized shit it is now.

I used to love this game, it was my favorite online FPS of all time and to be honest probably still is (and this is coming from someone who came up on Doom IPX LAN play and OG QuakeWorld) but now it's just fucking garbage and explicitly the chinese perfect world faggots are to blame

polite sage for offtopic

>all this [X]-wing shit

Enough. For fuck sake: anyone with any sort of political leaning is simply unfit to write or create anything Cyberpunk. The political spectrum/compass/mary-go-round people parade around to classify other people on a "I hate you this much" degree is utterly fucking meaningless in Cyberpunk.

The government either:

>Doesn't exist

>Exists as a puppet

>Exists but can't act

>Exists but acts like a Corp

>Exists and IS another Corp

The laws?

>Don't exist

>Exist but only concern trade deals

>Exist but punish every crime with 137 years of cry-storage

>Exist but Courtrooms are a theater

>Exist but Laywers cost you a liver and an Arm

>Exist for "Citizens", not for you SINless scum

And the police either:

>Flat out doesn't exist

>Exists but is private

>Exists but can't do shit because Government

>Exists but is corrupt

A "right-winger" trying to push his right-wing agenda would fail for the same reasons a "left-winger" would fail aswell:

You're applying a set of political and social standards/norms in a setting that VERY EXPLECITLY TELLS YOU: "Fuck what you think,I'm gonna hack/shoot/slice it" if you're talking about the punks or "Fuck your laws, I got money/armed guards/lab full of DNA mutants" if you're talking to one of the Corps.

You don't need to come up with new stories out of nothing, Cyberpunk has a vast trove of books and stories. Start with the pretty fucking obvious Phillip K Dick.

Then pick up Gibson, Asimov, ArthurC Clarke.

I'll even save you a few days of reading: the common theme that works on these books isn't politics. Cyberpunk was always a genre defined on a superficial level as "high tech, low life".

But on a deeper level, it's about flaws and fixing those flaws. Or failing to do so.

Most stories can be summed up thus:

>society/character notices something flawed

>they attempt to fix it

>the fix is hideous/terrible

>they attempt to fix the damage they did

>discover a diferent way to fix everything

Often, the most important part of the story is the comparison by the initial "fix" with the later one. Like some stories about replacing people with robots (an initial fix for low-productivity) giving rise to problems (robot-rebellion) and people discovering another fix: (don't treat workers like shit and they'll produce more).

It's an entire fucking genre about human's introspection and accepting our flaws while working with them (or witnessing the consequences of not accepting them).

And yet, the usual political retards want to make it yet another vehicule for the "my goverment solution is perfect and will solve all problems, allow me to demonstrate with this allegory in a cyberpunk world".

Fuck you, retarded assholes.

>>14572636

And 'FUCK YOU in special.

Your counterstrike reskin will never be HALF the game Dystopia is.

>>14584172

>Nobody ever is fit to create cyberpunk stuff

Your brain on centrism.

What 80's cyberpunk movie deserves a video game adaptation the most and why is it Rome 2072 AD The New Gladiators?

>>14584217

>reduce every argument to an absurd negating the need to think about it

Your brain on extremism.

Read again asswipe. Plenty of people have written, still write and will continue writing stories on Cyberpunk settings.

This rant about leftists ruining shit would be more heartfelt if I didn't know it's coming from right-wingers who'd happily shit up the genre aswell.

>>14584172

>Muh absurdity

You're the one who goes around claiming anybody with a political leaning (Read: Everybody) can't write even though the genre was made by people who were explicitly anti globalism.

>Y-You dirty right wingers would shit it up too!

Lolno. This is why nobody will take you retards seriously; You're so hellbent on seeing everyone you disagree with as the same that you accuse people who don't do things of doing them because the people they are opposed to do them. The average leftist could be a kiddy diddler and you'd scream that if they weren't doing it, right wingers would. That talking point has been taken up before, hilariously, by centrist shitters like you, so I'm not merely saying that because I feel like you'd say it, but it's because the shit retards like you actually say.

>>14584665

>Your brain on extremism.

The guy who wrote Deus Ex, Sheldon Pacotti, essentially read an entire library's worth of conspiracy material that was so detailed that he knew exactly how many kittens the FBI killed during raids and essentially subsumed himself into a paranoid schizo's mindset when writing the story for the game.

In fact here is his own words:

>I'm definitely a believer myself that all good writing proceeds from primary-source material. I have Drexler's books, textbooks on biochemistry and physiology, Warren's conspiracy library, books of interviews with gang members, a pamphlet given to me by a true-believer in the Illuminati who sat by me on a plane… I can't say that any one sub-plot in Deus Ex was inspired by a "true" story, but I'm always actively gathering "facts" to go into what I'm writing.

deusex-machina.com/articles/interview-sheldonp.asp

>>14584704

Conspiracy theory =/= right-wing politics.

If anything, leftwing/libertarians were the one's spreading conspiracy theories about totalitarian governments come to tax us and make us slaves.

Strange where we ended up at, where the left is actually helping it.

Sheldon might have been "redpilled", but the main point /pol/ often misses is that being redpilled doesn't mean you're right-winger.

>>14584701

> claiming anybody with a political leaning

anybody with an EXTREME political leaning

READ, YOU FUCKFACE

>>14584701

pressed enter too soon, it seems

>You're so hellbent on seeing everyone you disagree with as the same

Nah, that's you.

Centrist or not, noone acuses or recognizes kiddy fiddling tendencies on the right. And noone claims you'd be doing it if the left didn't take the spot. There's a fuckload of diferent behaviours the left doesn't share with the right.

The left would happily dump 100 workers back on the street to "Save the trees!" and abolish a coal mine, while the right would happily mine the coal not giving much thought to the debris going downstream to another town.

Those sort of diferences are one thing. One that has it's own board for discussio.

Of relevance to THIS discussion, I am simply refereing to the authoritarian tendencies of both groups. The fascism/nazism right wingers promote shares very little with the communistic utopia the left promises us.

But one of the very few things it shares with it is the central tenet of "The average citizen is very,very dumb. Your glorious leader knows best. Shut the fuck up, or we'll send you to jail".

This is neither a Fascist nor a Communist Tenet. It's authoritarian.

And I'm not so dumb I'd claim it's without merit. Authority is often a needed last resort.

But that is also discussion for another board, either /pol/ or /leftypol/ ``depending if I want a ban from a turkroach or a transexual.**

What I am trying to tell you is that extremists applying their authoritarian mindset onto cyberpunk will clash with the central thematic of the genre and fuck it up, be they right or left leaning.

It's a genre about freedom and lack of authority. Kinda like what happens when the parents are out of the house and the kid finds the box of matches. Except the parents are the government, the kid is the general population and the box of matches is a Pandora's Box packed with transhumanistic shit.

Robbind the freedom of the people to fuck up destroyes the genre.

A great genre where Authoritarian themes complement and enchance the base story is Sci-fi, particulary Space Operas. See: LoGH

>>14584744

>If anything, leftwing/libertarians were the one's spreading conspiracy theories about totalitarian governments come to tax us and make us slaves.

Old fucking burned out hippies spreading rumors about FEMA camps, talking about coffee can modified carburetors that could get 250miles to the gallon which corporations are suppressing, Aliens in fucking Roswell having treaties with the US gov't to abduct and kill it's citizens in exchange for tech, and talking themselves up about being revolutionaries against the tyranny of a government going out of control - just like the good old days when they stuck it to the man by dropping out, smoking pot, and going to music festivals.

Yeah, a LOT of the conspiracy shit came from the left. My cousin fell for a lot of that crap really hard, and honestly if he hadn't been so busy becoming a drug addict - he might have gone on to protest the G20 summits or some shit and roll burning dumpsters into the front lobbies of businesses who had the audacity to open shop a few blocks away. He was in support of anarchist groups, though he mellowed out quite a bit as he got older and it turns out all that crap he was being fed as a kid either never happened and all the "exposes" turned out to be nothing but hot air.

He couldn't believe that I wouldn't get onboard with that trash, until I finally broke it down that - even assuming that everything he said was true, then the people "fighting against the system" are so fucking inept that it's a dead end. There will never be a prosecution, there will never be a great "mass awakening", the conspiracies will never be unveiled - and they will win. Show me someone competent that can get results, and not just sell lecture tickets and post Youtube bait, or go the fuck away with that shit.

>>14584769

Of course, when you get called out on being a dumb motherfucker you start backpedaling.

>Nono, I meant extreme when I said anybody with a political leaning, I'm not retarded you just can't read my intentions properly!

>Nah, that's you

Of course, that's why I'm accusing da ebil right wingers of doing things they haven't done, like making shit games that are purely made for pushing political agendas.

>Centrist or not, noone acuses or recognizes kiddy fiddling tendencies on the right. And noone claims you'd be doing it if the left didn't take the spot.

Nope, that's utterly incorrect. Anglin was recently arguing with some cucked E-celeb about pakistani rape gangs in britain and the E-celeb said, in his own words, that if the Pakistanis weren't raping children, British people would be doing it instead.

>The left would happily dump 100 workers back on the street to "Save the trees!" and abolish a coal mine, while the right would happily mine the coal not giving much thought to the debris going downstream to another town.

Nah.

>But one of the very few things it shares with it is the central tenet of "The average citizen is very,very dumb. Your glorious leader knows best. Shut the fuck up, or we'll send you to jail".

Coolstory bro, I agree that those dumb right wingers sending people to jail for hate speech and daring to speak their mind are just the greatest of problems, because that actually does happen, of course. A-and even if it didn't, the right would do it anyways if the left weren't!

>But that is also discussion for another board, either /pol/ or /leftypol/

Then stop posting you dumb nigger and don't derail the thread by virtue signaling about how everyone is dumb but fenceshitters who do nothing. Of course, you won't because god forbid you don't virtue signal about how correct you are for sitting on the fence.

>What I am trying to tell you is that extremists applying their authoritarian mindset onto cyberpunk will clash with the central thematic of the genre and fuck it up, be they right or left leaning.

Gee, your first post didn't say anything like that, it's almost like you realized your bullshit won't fly and now you're tactically backpedaling to muh authoritarianism. Even though that's not even true and most of the leftists shitting this up aren't strictly authoritarian but are as liberal progressive as they come. But I'm sure you have a rationalization for how the furry SJW otherkin who insists that the writers use Xir instead of Her is politically aligned with Stalin.

Here's an alternative idea, however, what if, get this, what if, what if every other Anon here is right and the left is simply inherently shitty and always lowers the quality of what they're writing of? I can find you countless examples of right wing or far right writers, artists, developers,and what other category you whine about writing good shit without having to push an agenda because it's unnecessary; Yet you can't do nearly the same for the left.

https://twitter.com/unclebantzzz/status/979746885861855232

>>14562019

You should have given an example of SJW Cyberpunk, for example, Read-Only Memories, because in a dystopian future, Pronouns are a form of control. And PS, the creator of that game was revealed to be a tranny-abusing faggot who got exposed and quit GaymerX and went into hiding.

>>14584744

>Conspiracy theory =/= right-wing politics

>Sheldon might have been "redpilled",

Parcotti is a Liberal, capital L, you more or less proved to me you're a cocksucking hypocrite by automatically assuming I was talking about someone who is "right winged" when he is anything but a conservative and he feels very strongly about his views even if it doesn't show in Deus Ex, it becomes clearer in other works he's written.

>>14567516

theres still a few based indies out there, but they never have the budget of no man's soy

>>14573154

>muh exclusive club

>>14585190

>SJW Cyberpunk

Deus Ex: Mankind Divided

http://cyberpunk.asia/countdown.php?lng=us

bump.