d46b48 No.14546684
Lets post Witches and Wizards.
a57f87 No.14546718
>witches
Women belong in the kitchen, not in magical rituals.
Unless you're a filthy savage sacrificing them to your animal god.
Also, sorcerers are homosexuals.
0a474c No.14546740
>>14546684
>no Wizard cRPG where you get to conduct experiments and try to become a lich
Why?
f991eb No.14546759
>>14546740
because evil campaigns don't often get made into RPGs
you could always make it yourself. AGDG will help and Unity and Godot are easy to use
0a474c No.14546763
>>14546759
Why must a lich be evil? It's just a wizard that figure out how to prolong his life.
b7adbb No.14546803
>>14546740
You can become a Lich in a campaign called: Descent Into Darkness in the opensource game Battle For Wesnoth.
f6253b No.14546838
Have my DnD mage collection.
6b377a No.14546848
>>14546763
Yeah, just make it deathless instead of undead
7eef50 No.14546849
>>14546763
> Why must a lich be evil?
The usual explanation is that the ritual to become a lich involves really evil and fucked up stuff, so only one who is really immoral and selfish can achieve this state.
f6253b No.14546851
>>14546763
Because only the baddest dudes can be that bad.
7ae544 No.14546856
>>14546763
Aren't regular wizards already prolonging their life quite significantly simply due to MAGIC? I mean, when has a wizard actually died of old age and not because he 'fulfilled his duty'. Or because of demons.
A lich usually takes it too far and ends up destroying or using other life in order to sustain your his own, which might still be considered good in some utalitarian discussions of moral ethics, but generally is a 'bad' thing.
fc7573 No.14546868
>>14546856
Prolonged life and undeath are two separate things. A lich doesn't take prolonged life too far, a lich actually dies and passes through the veil and then uses the souls of sacrificed babies to break his ass back out to become an eternal Un-Dead.
0a474c No.14546879
>>14546856
Far as I understand it, to become a lich you need to make a pact with some evil entity, by it a god or a demon, and sacrifice the soul of a sentient being. It isn't exactly all that monstrous of a process.
0a474c No.14546888
>>14546879
Also, there's archliches, which can achieve immortality through complex rituals, instead of swearing allegiance to someone else.
a57f87 No.14546890
>>14546888 (fucking nice)
Why not just find a god or demon that will accept the souls of orc children or something? It's not evil if you're having orcs killed.
0a474c No.14546900
>>14546890
The issue isn't the sacrifice per se, but the fact you agree to be the bottom bitch of whatever entity grants your lichdom. Seeing as most, if not all, of the powers that would grant you this boon are evil, I don't think they'd be satisfied with you killing a fantasy nigger.
85b889 No.14546917
>>14546718
What are the volupsa and sybils?
2277a0 No.14546948
>>14546763
Because people are unimaginative retards that all stick to one idea of what something is and refuse to ever deviate from it. DnD invented liches and so that is what liches absolutely 100% have to be. Nevermind the fact that in most works, liches are just powerful immortal wizards.
You fucks are the reason why liches can't go around teaching poor people how to use necromancy to help them work their farms, overthrow their corrupt kings, and bring peace and prosperity across the land.
a35315 No.14547003
I come from /tg/ bearing gifts.
85b889 No.14547009
>>14546948
>You fucks are the reason why liches can't go around teaching poor people how to use necromancy to help them work their farms, overthrow their corrupt kings, and bring peace and prosperity across the land.
Oy vey goy, just give me your dead people.
a35315 No.14547019
>>14546948
Liches are evil because they literally don't have a soul and the process of becoming a lich usually involves more than making a phylactery. Typically some flavor of evil such as killing a loved one or child, destroying a home town, flaying a bag of puppies, etc. Its the immortal wizard's cheat to immortality since in most fantasy wizards have a different way to become immortal thats only possible at a higher levels.
Liches are basically bad wizards who cheat their way to immortality and lose most of their sanity in the process becoming undead who focus only on their desires with no concern for the world around them. Even if you came to a lich and offered to help he'd kill you and animate your corpse to have you better controlled.
If a DM lets you play a lich who isn't evil he's a bad DM.
7d44b3 No.14547031
>>14546836
Best wizard coming though.
85b889 No.14547039
>>14547019
>If a DM lets you play a lich who isn't evil he's a bad DM.
There are morally neutral/good liches in some settings but the LA is retardedly high so why bother.
85b889 No.14547040
2a886f No.14547043
>>14546718
And old men in pajamas belong in the cemetary.
85e0c9 No.14547048
I'm just rolling to be honest.
85b889 No.14547062
>>14547043
Old men in pajamas deserve to be in bed tucked in and with a glass of water within arm's reach. Worked at a nursing home for a bit and the way the women working there mistreat the old men made me almost beat the shit out a negress. Old men are the nicest people you will meet, if you give them allowance for their pride and don't patronize them.
2846ab No.14547066
Seriously? This far in and no one posts explosions?
50b0d8 No.14547083
>>14547062
What kind of life person needs to live in order to not have their own home in the old age and be forced to move to a nursing home? To not have children and/or grand children to adore and care for them? My grand parents were fucking amazing and never were left alone or in some goddamn nursing house. Neither will be my mother.
I may be cynical, but I believe you get what you deserve in the end.
Sage for offtopic
6f5c8a No.14547088
>>14547019
>Implying that killing normalfags is somehow morally wrong
Liches are the only truly good mages since they free the NPCs from the prison of their existence and make them useful to the autistic mage masterrace.
85b889 No.14547097
>>14547083
Simple, women went back to work and now no one can take on extra family members like they used to. It's also very different when a person can now linger with ALS for twenty years. Euthanasia is wrong but this is also wrong, so I'm just hoping for collapse.
789c77 No.14547098
>>14546763
>Why must a lich be evil?
It's not called "cheating death" for nothing. Everyone has their allowed time on the material plane and must do the best they can with that time. Meanwhile, Liches completely ignore that truth and try to remain here far longer than they should or have the right to. This alone already sets them as selfish cunts since, unlike wizards that live as long as necessary but not for their own designs, Liches insist in staying here because they feel like it.
Secondly, where do you think the energy to be reanimated like that even comes from? We aren't talking about regular undead, where dark energy is enough to rise them or even some of the more advanced where you need a facsmile of a soul so they have basic sentience at least. We are talking a fully sentient creature that keeps all his knowledge, memories and mental faculties but is tied to a body that won't degrade.
You need energy that can only be found in someone else's soul and it doesn't matter how you get it, at the end of it you're still taking it from someone else.
That's the second reason they are evil, their immortality comes at a price that they force someone else to pay, and unlike vampires, they don't have the option to "just the tip".
You also have some more esoteric answers like in TES, where you have the Wheel of Life that keeps on turning, churning out souls into the void when they are cleansed of memories, and once every soul is clean, a new world starts anew. Liches are the fucks that simply sit on the wheel and refuse to get out, trapping every other soul into the void.
2a886f No.14547108
>>14547097
Humanity won't collapse in the next few hundred years, so our generation just drift along.
Neither will video games btw.
77406c No.14547110
>>14547062
Old people are literally detritus. What they deserve is to be left to die, not to suck up everyone else's time and money. If you're going to beat a negress it should be because you wanted to, not for the honor of some boomers.
789c77 No.14547130
>>14547083
It's not that simple.
Old people aren't really that easy to take care of and you end up needing someone fulltime back home to do it.
Taking care of them with kids sounds like a nightmare too when they get to the point where they are too senile to be the "fun grandpa" that helps you take care of them.
At some point, old people become an hazard to themselves and even to those around them if they aren't carefull.
There's nothing wrong with rest houses in theory, it's the shit staff they usually have that makes the whole place look and feel miserable, otherwise it'd be a great idea to have professionals and even medical personnel tending to old people. And as long as you visit sometimes, even take them back home for holidays, it's cool too.
>>14547088
Killing normalfags is not morally correct. It's still murder, even if it's against lower creatures, you do not have the right to snuff their lives no matter how pathetic and miserable they are.
That said, morally is for fags that want to rely on others for protection. Wizards have no sense of right from wrong for a damn good reason.
85b889 No.14547132
>>14547110
>Old people are literally detritus
Digusting.
77406c No.14547138
>>14547132
That they are, that's why they need to be expunged.
789c77 No.14547145
>>14547132
Don't reply to obvious bait, idiot. It's just the idiot that jumps into every thread, sees what's the most popular opinion and acts like a contrarian for the sake of arguing.
Nothing good comes out of amusing him, he probably doesn't even agree with what he writes, just posts it for the sake of controversy.
f398e4 No.14547156
muscle wizard best wizard
also rollan
40d322 No.14547180
Disciples had somewhat-edgy wizards.
eafde3 No.14547188
There should be more victorian-styled witched and mages
a35315 No.14547202
>>14547088
See thats the trick with being a lich, its not killing normalfags. Its always something personally hideously evil that serves to strip your humanity. Theres a reason why a living evil wizard isn't a lich, they're already stripped of humanity and just can't qualify for lichdom.
>>14547164
Pic related is the wizard
e2ffd0 No.14547229
>>14547202
That game was ridiculously hard. Played it on the megadrive in the 91 or 92. Died a hundred deaths.
44dac7 No.14547246
>>14547229
which game is it ?
85b889 No.14547251
>>14547188
No there shouldn't, given the entire spirit of the age was one of secular rationalism. You'd have natural philosophers and chemists at most.
a1aa75 No.14547259
>>14547066
>>14547248
>bargain bin, one 'n done version of Lina Inverse
Nah.
eafde3 No.14547270
>>14547251
>No there shouldn't, given the entire spirit of the age was one of secular rationalism.
That's the point, anon. There's satisfaction in throwing a fireball on the fag who told you magic is mere superstition. It also gives non-magic classes weaponry that actually gives them a chance to oppose a wizard.
85b889 No.14547310
>>14547305
>sword guy
>named archer
>later magically becomes Pucci
I don't get this series.
50b0d8 No.14547335
>>14547310
>king arthur is a woman
>emperor nero is a woman
>warlord nobunaga is a woman
It's a retarded series selling figures for waifufags to hotglue.
2277a0 No.14547339
>>14547019
DnD liches are the only possible liches, right? In no way could a wizard be raised as a lich, one be made through artificial means, a person made one by a bored god, or a wizard turned into one by a cursed item. It absolutely 100% has to be an evil guy doing evil for the sake of evil, killing a thousand babies and kittens in the name of Nig'Nog, lord of the realm of darkness, suffering, and putting books on shelves out of order, to have his soul destroyed and become an immortal bone puppet of evil. Absolutely no other fantasy worlds exist and no alternatives are allowed.
If a DM doesn't let you play as something, he's a boring-ass DM with no sense of fun or imagination who likely railroads players and forces stat checks for every little thing.
a1aa75 No.14547344
>>14547335
Fate has a Penis Wizard, your argument is invalid.
2a886f No.14547347
02791e No.14547351
>>14547335
Way to out yourself, Goon.
0a474c No.14547352
>>14547305
I wish someone would make a game around Archer's skillset. It would be fun to steal the enemy's weapons and use them against them.
>>14547335
Nothing wrong with waifus.
50b0d8 No.14547354
a35315 No.14547356
>>14547339
No because thats the fucking meaning of a lich in fantasy. What you described is just a fucking undead wizard, a lich is always self made by his own hand.
Also a DM who actually puts some fucking limits on the players is one that gives a shit. I don't want my players being god damn fairies in my urban campaign nor do I want samurai in the wild west one, if it doesn't fit the setting it shouldn't be allowed and most fantasy has an evil lich. If you wanted a non evil undead wizard kill the wizard raise him as an intelligent skeleton or zombie.
02791e No.14547361
>>14547354
So you're a goon AND a retard?
d2cb65 No.14547364
>>14547339
>>14547356
>>14547339
If you played through Heroes of Might and Magic 4 campaign your MQ is very based death-nature wizard.
lich didn't do not'ting
72afdb No.14547365
d2cb65 No.14547371
rolllllllllllling too but I will reroll commie/carrot wizard.
71fac4 No.14547381
eafde3 No.14547386
>>14547381
congrats, anon, now you can finally be the little girl
0a474c No.14547402
>>14547355
>no GTA like game set in the south of the USA in the 1910s or 1920s
>where you play a KKK member and fight spics and niggers
>where you drive around looking for degenerates to lynch
Why, God?
2277a0 No.14547403
>>14547356
Since fucking when has there been universal definitions for fantasy settings?
So a race of holy people with divine protection, clearly of good alignment, who value and honor the life and wisdom of their ancestors enough to willingly bind their souls to a phylactery and live on as immortal skeletons through a completely harmless ritual are objectively evil? Or can this situation just not exist because liches can only be DnD liches?
85b889 No.14547409
>>14547402
Actually most lynchings were simply the courts handing the offender over to the crowd and letting them handle the execution. Vast majority were of whites as well, but blu blu muh nigs.
85b889 No.14547410
>>14547403
>So a race of holy people with divine protection, clearly of good alignment, who value and honor the life and wisdom of their ancestors enough to willingly bind their souls to a phylactery and live on as immortal skeletons through a completely harmless ritual are objectively evil?
There's an official 3.5 setting that has exactly this. Pretty sure it's in Ebberon, NG mayan aztec mummy liches.
85b889 No.14547412
>>14547410
Mayan/aztec elven
0a474c No.14547414
>>14547409
It would be more satisfying to lynch niggers though.
a1aa75 No.14547422
All this talk about liches gave me a random setting idea.
>death is unnatural; entropy is caused by a great divine entity
>needs souls to go through his great cycle of reincarnation; life => death => rebirth; to power up something, like water running a water wheel
>mc accidentally becomes a lich; immortal and removed from cycle of reincarnation
>struggle with morality as raised with belief that death is natural; overcoming that fear and living a good life is maturity(essentially take some real theological arguments from Christianity as to why God would allow suffering to exist)
>but that's all just crap the divine entity has made people believe to smoothen things out
>actually death is completely unnecessary and simply causes suffering as people are forcibly parted and get their memories wiped each time; also halts human progress etc. etc.
>end goal would be to destroy the divine entity and unmake death in the world
Could be fun.
85b889 No.14547425
>>14547422
So literally tikkun olam. No thanks.
0a474c No.14547427
>>14547422
Congratulations! You just wrote the plot of your average jRPG.
18bbfe No.14547429
a1aa75 No.14547485
>>14547425
>tikkun olam
Looked into it and don't quite follow. Mind elaborating?
85b889 No.14547491
>>14547485
Destruction of the world because "God didn't do a good enough job." Also the jewish theological excuse for their destruction of pre-existing social structures.
85b889 No.14547494
>>14547491
Also look into the kol nidre, the abolishment of all vows except to other jews.
a1aa75 No.14547497
>>14547491
>>14547494
I was thinking more along the lines of "kill YHWH and humans stop aging" or something more along the lines of everyone becoming Bodhisattva more or less, though.
7a5640 No.14547501
>>14547259
finally a true man of taste and culture
85b889 No.14547506
>>14547497
>everyone becoming Bodhisattva
That's retarded, if everyone is a bodhisattva, why would you need bodhisattvas? Their entire purpose is to help the unenlightened get past the state they (the bodhisattva) has chosen to stay in.
a1aa75 No.14547514
>>14547506
Oh, right. Forgot about that part, staying behind at the behest of whever it was again after he'd sat under the fig tree while ignoring all the gods trying to move him.
Well, I mean a state of being free from suffering. Then again, the buddhists argue that suffering stems from want rather than death so it's a poor analogy on my part.
85b889 No.14547516
>>14547514
>buddhists argue that suffering stems from want
Not quite, it's that suffering comes from attachment, which is not simply desire, but the state of identification with matter or consciousness.
a1aa75 No.14547546
>>14547516
I think it was somewhere along the lines of anatta, durkkha or anitya that I just threw up my hands and stopped reading about buddhism.
789c77 No.14547562
>>14547422
This could actually be a great idea. Dunno about the theological part, it's just a plot device but could be good too.
It kinda reminds me of Legacy of Kain, where there's an Elder God that feeds on souls and requires the wheel of fate to keep turning.
Vampires were an interesting boon due to the amazing amounts of death they caused but in time, they almost exterminated the whole world and every vampire is immortal so their souls are beyond his reach, so he sets Raziel to go after them to end their immortal life.
If I were to take this premise, you could instead say that the world has a limited static number of souls that are reborn over and over.
The Elder God feeds on the emotions of the living / the knowledge they had upon death / their life experiences / anything, really. But since he exists beyond the mortal realm, he can only feed on souls when they die.
He can't manifest himself but he can influence the world in several ways, creating war, famine, plagues and strife everywhere to keep people dying all the time. Natural death is actually a curse placed upon their souls before reincarnating.
Due to the constant death and war, no civilization advances too much. They can't travel to another plane of existance (thus they will never confront this Elder God) and their religious practices (created by a (((prophet))) of this Elder God) keep them indocrinated into believeing in an afterlife.
The MC would find some ancient ritual or a method that accidentally removes his soul curse and thus his body no longer deteriorates.
Instead, he starts to rise in power and knowledge, understanding more and more of the world and seeing everyone else as the lesser souls they are and what they could be, so he makes it his quest to free them from their curse as well.
The ultimate goal is for everyone to join the MC in the ranks of an immortal race of living souls that never ages and only accumulates knowledge. The Elder God fears this as not only it kills his source of food, it also means humans will eventually find a way to travel into his realm and fuck him up.
The MC's powers are indeed magic in a world where magic is very, very light for most people. However, as his knowledge of the world increases from not dying at all, his powers grow to incredibly ridiculous amounts to the point that the Elder God has to send several horrible abominations and finnaly trying to cause Armageddon just to stop you and kill everyone so nobody remenbers any of this.
It will fail since the MC will prevent it, build an Arkane Ark and take 100 of his best Battlemages with him, travel through a tear into the Elder God realm and fuck his shit up.
Then when the credits roll, you see several other universes, each controlled by their own Elder God and your task is now to fuck all of them up and liberate every other race. The potential for expansions and sequels is limitless.
85b889 No.14547568
>>14547546
Off topic but it always amuses me that the sanskrit term for knowledge is vidya.
a1aa75 No.14547587
>>14547562
I had been thinking of using the accursed Lich angle more, setting up the MC completely alone and despised by the whole world. His only allies would be complete monsters who just want immortality etc. A sort of guerilla war against all of existence.
Reminds me of Nehrim, too. Though that got pretty over the top at times.
>>14547568
I think I remember an old banner that had that as a joke. I don't think I have it any more.
4e0657 No.14547597
>>14547568
>The word vidya is derived from the Sanskrit root vid, which means "to know, to perceive, to see, to understand"
>Avidyā is a Vedic Sanskrit word, and is a compound of a and vidya, meaning "not vidya".
>Avidyā in Buddhist literature is commonly translated as "ignorance". The concept refers to ignorance or misconceptions about the nature of metaphysical reality, in particular about the impermanence and non-self doctrines about reality. It is the root cause of Dukkha (suffering, pain, unsatisfactoriness)
<Ancient buddhists were already warning us that not-vidya would lead to rampant shitposting and lower board quality
This is some meme magic shit right here
a1aa75 No.14547610
>>14547597
>vidya = good
>/a/vidya = bad
Fucking goons, those ancients.
a35315 No.14547639
>>14547627
Still not a fan, this shit is like that cave man statue of a fat chick to me.
Its just not sexy exaggeration, except that last one.
d46b48 No.14547656
>>14547639
The last one was actually me mistaking the thumbnail for another pic (the first one here).
4e0657 No.14547660
>>14547639
Oh come on, the one you like is the one with the niggerlips?
f398e4 No.14547662
>>14547639
Pray tell, how does the kingdom of cocksuckers fare, oh soyful traveller?
a1aa75 No.14547726
>>14547713
I kept trying to find some good clips to webm, but found nothing decent. Might have to dust off the old hard drives and make some.
For now, I found this.
85b889 No.14547739
>>14547735
Game is hilariously easy if you roll 3 mages and bow Lenneth.
baf2f9 No.14547750
>Nobody posted the chart yet.
Step it up.
>>14547180
It had great art direction though.
18bbfe No.14547767
baf2f9 No.14547769
>>14547767
Shit your right, I guess I'm a retarded wizard.
4ea9eb No.14547776
>>14547750
>the checkum wizard doesn't at least require dubs to acquire
Poor show.
0a474c No.14547786
>>14547755
If only NISA didn't butcher the game beyond all recognition. May they all die of fucking cancer.
3df261 No.14547789
d46b48 No.14547809
>>14547755
>7755
checked.
Proper seeding.
8c2e58 No.14547853
>>14547786
the ps4 version works, thankfully. i picked it up for $2.99. i know nothing about how poor the (((localization))) was, but it atleast kept the option for original audio.
fun game
>>14547809
she's a real human bean
8032d5 No.14547935
>>14547562
Sounds good. thanks for spoiling LoK you faggot
eae538 No.14547937
>>14546763
They don't. There's some truth to what >>14546849 said, though. But Gygax's own chart of where various monsters fall on the alignment spectrum had Liches under Lawful Neutral, not Evil. Over the years and editions, there have been all kinds of ways to become a Lich. 2e had a story about somebody who was so obsessed with research that they became one without realizing it, their will to learn tying them to the world. Elves have a good version of Lich called a Baelnorn. They even get alternative abilities, like astral projection. A particularly powerful and evil spellcaster will sometimes become a strange vermin-flavored kind of Lich called A Worm that Walks if its corpse is eaten by a mass of worms while it's retaining unused spell slots. An epic spell can force the transformation even if you're not Evil. On the post-apocalyptic world of Athas (Dark Sun setting), some Druids can cultivate a tree using their own blood that grows a massively toxic fruit that turns you into a Lich upon eating it, which I don't believe has an alignment requirement. Green Ronin put out a bestiary for Pathfinder with a very wild-themed variant that turns you into a Plant type pseudo-Lich called a Moss Lich, which is probably the most accessible of all options. No alignment requirement.
If you want to go psionic (master race tbh), the book Complete Psionic has a rough Lich equivalent called a Spectral Savant. They explicitly don't have to be evil; just tend to end up that way. Dreamscarred Press put out by far my favorite quasi-Lich, called the Mindborn, which is an Incorporeal Outsider that follows the general Lich design but swaps the Undead-related stuff for things like mind reading, shapeshifting, and telekinesis.
Liches are shown as badguys because it's easy, not because it's necessary. For your consideration, the only requirement to become a Lich is a caster level of 11 and the Craft Wondrous Item feat required to make the Phylactery. Just about any caster can make that requirement, even Paladins (Eternal Justice), Bards (The Show Must Go On), Rangers (The Hunt Never Dies), etc. And some systems (Pathfinder, maybe 3.x) have options for specialized crafters to waive the caster level requirement.
eae538 No.14547946
>>14547937
Forgot my images.
8032d5 No.14547952
>>14546763
>>14546849
>>14547937
Isn't this just a way to dissuade DMs from allowing edgy OCs from getting a free pass out of mortality? By making the entry fee some horrible moral event horizon instead of just some tasks that the edgelords will ask a DM to make a campaign around.
a1aa75 No.14547959
>>14547935
>hasn't played LoK
eae538 No.14547964
>>14547952
I can see it being a deterrent, yeah. But the books also seldom go into detail about what the ritual actually entails. Earlier books talked about blasphemous rites and drinking an instantly lethal poison, but that's about it. The DM is the one that's supposed to set up the hurdle to Lichdom, which I guess makes sense, if you consider it an adventure of its own rather than a character upgrade box to tick on your sheet.
8032d5 No.14547969
>>14547964
>rather than a character upgrade box to tick on your sheet.
Sadly, a lot of D&D players see everything this way, and get really upset if their character dies.
>>14547959
I guess I'll hit up for some GoG version right now…
eae538 No.14547992
>>14547969
>upset if their character dies
That's not unreasonable, considering the amount of time and effort that goes into them. Emotion, too, if you're bothering to give a damn about the roleplaying aspect of it.
>all they see their character as
I was one of those roleplay faggots, but honestly what's mostly turned me into a hack and slash player is a lack of DMs who will do anything else. I never feel immersed in a world when playing; it's more like looking the gameboard for Risk; just a map on which to move combat units. I feel I've become somewhat resigned to it.
38f1c2 No.14548017
789c77 No.14548035
>>14547935
>thanks for spoiling LoK
AHAHAHAH
Son, you have no fucking idea. This is no spoiler. It's the apettizer for what the story actually is. Compared to everything else, an Elder God pitying a Wraith against vampires because their souls are out of his reach is a cliché. You do not understand how good time traveling stories can be until you've played this entire series and seen the eldritch backstabs you are set upon.
Legacy of Kaine is literal art and not in the pretentious hipster sense. It's history is actually that good that the game can wear this label and spit blood on the face of anyone else that disagrees or thinks himself near it.
72c113 No.14548040
>>14546719
>pic 3
>not amplifying your shame by casting a positive feedback loop of shameful memories
>not releasing your spaghetti in an explosion killing anything in a ten mile radius, including that disgusting whore on a pole
Nigger are you even an apprentice? Weaponized spaghetti dropping is wizardry 101.
eae538 No.14548054
>>14546724
>1st pic
He actually drew Marisa as the hapa she is. Absolute madman.
4e0657 No.14548081
>>14548006
Why has no one made a gun wizard game yet?
>Conjure multiple flying ghost weapons for quad firing with machine guns
>Paradox grenades which keep exploding for several seconds after being thrown
>Teleport explosives inside enemies
>Possess enemies in machine gun nests and do some friendly fire
>Cast A-10 strafe runs
789c77 No.14548083
>>14547992
>That's not unreasonable, considering the amount of time and effort that goes into them.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but the entire "progressiong" that goes on in RPGs where you get XP and level up is actually far more harmfull than most people think because of this.
The extra investment into characters means it's harder to take them away from players since they have emotional attachment to them, and if you try to remove that, you get munchkins and powergamers instead that don't roleplay.
IMO, there's too much eggs on the same basket. A proper RPG would have the players polling resources into something besides themselves, like starting a Wizard Academy and playing as one of the teachers. Your character doesn't progress, but the school does, so if you lose your character, it's no big loss and you can play as another teacher for instance.
A simulated world that persists between deaths that the players can affect in some way would make for better gameplay in the long term than more powerleveling of a single character. Kinda wish that they went somewhere with the Leadership Feat in DnD, but sadly I think the closest one can get to this would be GURPS since character progression there isn't as linear nor does it lend itself to powerlevel bullshit.
>>14548040
He is trying to save a damnsel in distress from a Succubus, do you think he is a real mage? Probably some peasant that wants to look the part or hopes that the Succubus will "seduce" him. Fucking poseurs, man.
2269b7 No.14548091
>>14548054
>drew
>a painting
25f1df No.14548108
Did anyone expect anything less than softcore hentai with this thread?
02791e No.14548121
>>14548054
Marisa is no hapa
85b889 No.14548124
>>14548091
To be fair you do generally sketch out a painting before hand.
d46b48 No.14548139
>>14548108
got some good discussion about liches as well as some ecchi.
15a0f4 No.14548162
>>14546718
Underrated post
747f5d No.14548170
>>14546684
Why is hobo wizard on there twice?
801e3d No.14548177
>>14547062
>>14547043
>not knowing who Raistlin Majere is
Guy is in his 20s in that picture.
bf5ce1 No.14548180
>>14548108
You never know where /tg/ territory will lead you son,that is why these threads are always worth it.
85b889 No.14548183
>>14548162
Sorcery vs. "wizard" distinction is pretty cool historically. The term sorcery is actually descended from the Roman legal term for any religious ritual or "magical" practice or item (talismans, rituals, etc) that was not approved of by the state and integrated into the ecumenized pantheon. So the late Republic at one point had to subsidize and regulate the Bachnalia so they didn't happen every five minutes by making it illegal for more than two official sanctioned priests to participate.
85b889 No.14548185
>>14548183
Meanwhile, wizard is an equivalent term to doctor, one who is wizened versus one who hold doctrine.
eae538 No.14548201
>>14548083
I've actually done something like that in a game. The whole party had the Leadership feat, and we played our Cohorts as a second party in charge of logistics and support to help the Big Damn Heroes party.
>>14548091
It's called a drawing because you draw your utensil across the medium, as opposed to sculpting, where you remove material. Painting is literally a subset of drawing.
>>14548121
Yeah she is. She's a foil to Reimu, whose thing is purity. Marisa represents the clashing of worlds, where Reimu's power is derived from sovereign boundaries. Even her name was specifically chosen because it can be written in English or Japanese without complication.
Reimu - Marisa
Japanese - Hapa
Shinto Rites - Hermetic Sorcery
Eastern attire - Western attire
Shrine Maiden (Purity Required) - Witch (Physically consorts with spirits for power)
Hates Youkai - Obsessed With/Studied Under Them
Traditional - Wears fingerless biker gloves and keeps a microchip in her hat
Minimalist - Wears her getup and uses an unnecessary broom because that's what witches do
Supernatural purist - Supplements her abilities with magitech, and actual technology
15a0f4 No.14548214
Gentleman wizards are best
d46b48 No.14548253
>>14548201
>Witch (Physically consorts with spirits for power)
Lewd.
8a1318 No.14548255
>>14547251
>the entire spirit of the age was one of secular rationalism.
>I don't understand what contrast is: The post
eae538 No.14548276
>>14548180
>Muscle Wizard
Cancer Mage was such a cool idea. I wish it had more support rather than three options that all end up completely broken automatically with time once you get them.
4e12f4 No.14548277
>>14546719
>Cia
I knew I could count on at least one of you, friendorooneys
2269b7 No.14548285
>>14548201
>arguing semantics
Don't act like there isn't convention with the separation between painting and drawing.
>>14548180
>comfy wizards
Reminds me of blanket wizards >>>/tg/337016
ab1515 No.14548288
>>14547251
Not true. Esoteric Practices had a huge boom in the west during Victorian times
85b889 No.14548293
>>14548288
Under the aegis of natural science and explicitly against the supernatural. Groups like the Society for Psychical Research discredited Blavatsky's mentalism (which is an easy task) while simultaneously promoting ESP.
85b889 No.14548299
>>14548288
>>14548293
I'm writing a book on the history of "magic" so I consider myself an expert on this topic.
d46b48 No.14548304
>>14548293
>victorian society using ESP to fight ghosts and shit.
id buy it.
d46b48 No.14548320
>>14548295
cotton is pretty cute.
>>14548277
second thing that came to mind after the sorceress.
eae538 No.14548347
>>14548285
I mean, the waters are even muddier than that, considering it's in all likelihood a digital illustration.
27d616 No.14548353
>>14548320
Pretty perfect.
a39364 No.14548371
>>14546701
ROLLAN FOR TACTICAL
4c8d01 No.14548468
>>14547422
Wow, so you just thought of the plot of almost every SMT game.
737221 No.14548563
d46b48 No.14548774
>>14548575
>Are wizzards allowed?
yeah sure, why two z though?
85b889 No.14548779
>>14548774
Read a book nigger. Specifically the Colour of Magic.
15a0f4 No.14548828
>>14548550
quality magic anon
15a0f4 No.14548834
I wish I was on my home computer so I can gather images of my wizard vidya avatars
d46b48 No.14548874
>>14548844
>8844
Nice dubs.
>Odin
>he doesn't look like a one eyed gandalf the grey.
I always get slightly annoyed when I see this but ill let it slide because George is a great artist.
85b889 No.14548886
>>14548874
Odin had glamoury as well, though. He was master of all magics, including seidr.
4e12f4 No.14548901
>>14548320
I hope she returns. She and her two smooth mana jugs are too good to be lost in vidya character limbo.
a57f87 No.14548942
>>14548901
that's a big chest
7d4356 No.14548944
>>14547188
Tranny wannabe witches don't belong in this thread nigger.
567c00 No.14548951
>>14548874
>>14548886
Despite the name, this isn't THE Odin but his mastery of magic is something that is heavily underlined as he's most often referred through his "Magic Lord" title that was wrongfully translated as "Demon Lord" (admittedly, "Maou" is more commonly used for the later).
d6edca No.14548969
>>14548942
Do you think the Zelda chest theme plays when you touch them?
a57f87 No.14548977
>>14548969
considering that they are 2D and you can't touch them, it's hard to say for certain
567c00 No.14549007
Maybe if Capcom magically grows its balls back, they can try a new Warzard. But better leave it alone for the time being.
5f7f7b No.14549190
Is Dragon's Dogma the best wizard game?
583e55 No.14549396
>>14547402
>David Duke is a real Grand Wizard
>Restoring the pride of the Anglo-Saxon-Celtic man.
>Restoring America with the secret arts.
>Hooded figures burning crosses and practicing heremeticism…
583e55 No.14549451
>>14549414
>>14549396
Best thread on /v/
4d1c2f No.14549646
>>14548308
>phylactery is a second lich
That's real fuckin nito.
My greatest desire is to play a game where I can play as a necrocleric with heavy armor adorned with skull motifs, summon leagues of skeletons, and demolish armies.
eae538 No.14549684
>>14549646
I've played a character that managed to become a collective hive mind of duplicate bodies, and each body was a phylactery for the entire rest of the swarm. You either killed all of him, or you wasted your time.
731776 No.14549952
>>14549664
It's been a long time since i played ss13, is wizard still a thing people play? I know clowns have been a meme for the longest time, but every time I played every wizard was a fucking madman.
4c8b43 No.14549998
>>14546684
What are some good wizard games? Arx Fatalis is gud that I know, but what else?
258bbf No.14550242
>>14547726
The music is amazing, is that the original music?
96ba29 No.14550287
>>14546684
another lizard wizard to add to my collection
>>14548944
age up fetish is top tier
e66938 No.14550294
5dcdc0 No.14550426
ce70d4 No.14550605
>>14546684
>>14547421
Fuck it, I'm bored. Rollan.
05371e No.14550682
>>14550657
all this plot and worldbuilding just for some furry shit, i don't know who is worst, you for liking it, or the author for being so pretentious while knowing he just wanted to fuck a girl with a fox face and big tits
6224e3 No.14550694
>>14550682
>he doesn't like his smut to have deepest lore
5dcdc0 No.14550744
>>14550657
I actually thought the plot for this was cute. It's a shame that it's furshit.
6224e3 No.14550772
>>14550744
Oh come on, I know you could find a non-furry equivalent if you looked. Here, is this close enough?
https://exhentai.org/g/1007064/3450416f3c/
1a45be No.14550799
>>14550682
>>14550744
>current year
>viewing furshit as a negative
5c7112 No.14550819
>tfw you'll never be a muscle wizard, wrecking other mages and then making a harem out of their apprentices
5dcdc0 No.14550825
>>14550799
(checked)
>current year
It's [CURRENT YEAR] +3, you mong.
>viewing furshit as a negative
I'll stop viewing it as negative when animal people exist and it becomes normal to fuck them. Until then, it's a fetish that degenerates ingulge in.
6224e3 No.14550831
>>14550825
>I'll stop viewing it as negative when animal people exist and it becomes normal to fuck them.
Soon
5c7112 No.14550842
>>14550823
female apprentices, homo.
6224e3 No.14550846
>>14550842
What kind of wizard has female apprentices? They wouldn't even be training wizards anymore.
a3d4bb No.14550864
>>14550846
Yeah those are called witches, or servants.
ab120e No.14550868
>>14550831
>talks about furry
>posts human instead
6224e3 No.14550883
>>14550864
Hence not wizards nor apprentices.
>>14550868
I see what you are doing there.
a3d4bb No.14550895
>>14550883
Nigger I just want a harem as a muscle wizard. Is that too much to ask?
baf2f9 No.14550906
>>14550895
>Have harem
>be wizard.
Pick one and only one.
6224e3 No.14550908
>>14550895
Then just say that int he first place you ninny
ae6900 No.14550918
>>14547422
i'm currently running this setting
it's secretly /pol/ the campaign
eae538 No.14550924
3193c5 No.14550928
>>14547422
…Literally Gnosticism… Or Hereticism.
>the 'great divine entity' is the Demimurge.
3193c5 No.14550932
>>14550928
>Hereticism
I meant Hermeticism.
ae6900 No.14550937
>>14550924
it's gone through three over the years
349616 No.14550966
>>14546763
Because the process destroys one's humanity.
>shatter your moral compass with depraved rituals
>rip your soul from the mortal coil
>detach your mind from your soul
You are now three steps removed from being capable of even recognizing your own inhumanity. Evil is a natural state of being for one such as that. It's like asking "why is water wet?"
9752ce No.14551007
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>>14550242
Not original, it's from the old Final Fantasy Unlimited Anime.
42ed77 No.14551035
I remember one anon posted the concept art of a sorceress who unfurled the scrolls she carried around into turntable setup and cast spells by playing it. Does anyone have that image still?
8426d5 No.14551070
>>14550966
>Shatter your moral compass.
Can a being without morals actually be considered evil?
I mean they are pretty likely to take evil actions but a lack of morality seems like it would just be True Natural.
969993 No.14551097
>>14550825
>I'll stop viewing it as negative when animal people exist
But they do exist, in the world of fantasy!
Animal people would be cool if they did exist, but I'd prefer people not to fuck them.
349616 No.14551114
>>14551070
Doesn't True Neutral come with some kind of sense of "grand design", or motive for "balance"? Liches don't really care about a greater order; their acts are guided by supreme selfishness.
de48bf No.14551116
>>14550657
Sauce? I have a feeling I've seen that artist before but can't remember the name.Had a Tanuki guy in it.
eae538 No.14551128
>>14551114
True Neutral is the most diverse of all alignments because there are lots of ways to get there. Druids have an 'impartiality of nature' thing going on. Monks have a tao balance thing. Animals are incapable of making moral decisions and so default to it.
5dcdc0 No.14551160
>>14551116
>he can't use google images
ec02a3 No.14551279
>>14551097
👏Take👏the👏knot👏sweetie👏
Laying with animals has always been a historical euphemism for racemixing. Don't.
ab120e No.14551450
>>14551279
What if you have xenophilia?
9f881a No.14551469
>>14546684
I hate how we never get wizardy tools besides Magic attacks and shit. Dragon's Dogma kind of gets it by giving you floating powers to your jumps, but that's about it. A true wizard should use his wizard powers on his daily task, be able to see further away, cook food or shit like talking with spirits to get additional information to solve quests and whatnot.
Also, rolling
Please don't make me commie.
eae538 No.14551481
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>>14551469
Not bad. Also rolling.
ec02a3 No.14551483
>>14551450
Then you post on /monster/ because it doesnt have a snout, duh :^)
5dcdc0 No.14551491
>>14551450
Then mup da doo didda po mo to you, nigguh.
ab120e No.14551515
>>14551491
>implying Lamia don't have more magical aptitude than humans
It's like you want your kids to be shit at magic.
b531a3 No.14551575
31b064 No.14551599
>>14551521
It's actually Arche in both. First image is some old Inagaki artwork before he got replaced by Fujishima for whatever reason.
8702cb No.14551650
>>14547251
Like all ages, there was a counter-culture. Look into the works of guys like William Blake
1ef272 No.14551679
1ef272 No.14551723
>>14546684
Rollan again cause didn't saw pic 5.
400c09 No.14553385
>>14546763
Wizards who don't dabble in necromancy to make themselves immortal are top pleb
6224e3 No.14553390
>>14553385
nice thumbnails.
099d91 No.14553392
d9c137 No.14553396
400c09 No.14553401
>>14553390
I'm a thumbnail wizard
a7778f No.14553411
feff9f No.14553433
8bd6e2 No.14553473
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>>14546684
>69
>pinball wizard
>looks like neither robert daltrey nor elton john from the film
what the fuck is this garbage
d46b48 No.14553606
>>14547421
fug it, i am rolling.
d04a6b No.14553744
>>14547421
Let’s see what happens.
d46b48 No.14554974
>>14553744
>44
Bluedubsmage.
7d44b3 No.14555011
>>14547421
Unlimited power!
f19a60 No.14555013
>>14553692
Was he in the wrong?
969993 No.14555738
>>14553692
>>14555013
I'm interested in the character, but not the show, what's his story?
969993 No.14555757
>>14551279
That's exactly why you shouldn't fuck animal people if they existed. Although I'll admit that animals are more aesthetically pleasing to look at than humans. I wish I could be one
85b889 No.14555777
>>14555757
You are an animal.
6224e3 No.14555783
>>14555738
Time wizard who's family got killed or something and he was trying to bring em back I think.
>>14555757
>I wish I could be one
>>14555777 and also be happy with who you are. Otherkin and tranny shit is just cancer, be comfortable with yourself. I bet you're overweight, try to fix that.
969993 No.14555838
>>14555777 Holy fuck, double trips.
Humans are animals, what's your point?
>>14555783
I am. Just some people can look like fucking hideous trolls, but that probably has to do with human psyche and whatnot, being part of the same species and all. But at the same time, fantasy concepts are interesting to think about. Like how would an upright animal society function? How would it differ? Etc, and so on. Animal people are interesting in the fact that they're like aliens, but they have similarity to things we know and understand.
6224e3 No.14555864
>>14555838
It's one thing to enjoy a cool setting like /tg/ does, but another to want to be a furfag. Please anon, try to come to peace with yourself. Get /fit/ should that be how.
969993 No.14556051
>>14555864
I don't understand how speculating the dynamics of a world with multiple varied intelligent species makes me a furfag. I don't want to fuck them or anything for that matter, instead looking at them brings back a sort of childhood charm and wonder, when most cartoons featured them. Different cultures of any sort have always been interesting to me. Elves, Dwarves, and Orcs are fine, but they feel like a human subspecies. Animal people are fascinating in a way because it's interesting to think of other ways civilization could function. Same goes for Aliens. Or maybe we are the way we are because of civilization and they'd be too if they were smart enough to do so.
You're also telling me you've legitimately never thought about what animal you'd be when you were a kid? Or other stupid shit like superpowers, or what time period you'd want to visit?
Gondolas are peaceful, here's one for you.
6224e3 No.14556077
>>14556051
>I don't understand how speculating the dynamics of a world with multiple varied intelligent species makes me a furfag.
It doesn't
>I wish I could be one
does.
9502d9 No.14556131
969993 No.14556137
>>14556077
Again, it's just something interesting to think about. It's all just fantasy. Like the fags who think about being a Elf, Dwarf, Orc, or Wizard. Why do you insist on taking it so seriously?
85ea6f No.14556325
6224e3 No.14556336
>>14556137
>Why do you insist on taking it so seriously?
I am a very bitter furfag.
85b889 No.14556392
>>14547270
Touche. Have some vril-loosh.
969993 No.14556403
>>14556336
>accuses another of being a furfag
>turns out to be a furfag
Why are furries so self destructive?
6224e3 No.14556418
>>14556403
>turns out to be a furfag
I kinda played that hand already earlier in the thread, so I was assuming you knew that.
>Why are furries so self destructive?
It's what happens when the entire internet hates everything tangentially related to you and you simultaneously hate the "community".
sage for OT
969993 No.14556458
>>14556418
>I kinda played that hand already earlier in the thread
I rarely pay attention to IDs.
>It's what happens when the entire internet hates everything tangentially related to you and you simultaneously hate the "community".
It's for that very same reason I hid the fact that I was actually a furry and your accusations were correct.
6224e3 No.14556524
>>14556458
It really does take one to know one huh?
969993 No.14556606
>>14556524
And thus it always turns out the most antagonistic group towards furries is other furries. I know I'm guilty of that.
Posting Wizard pepes so this thread doesn't derail as quickly.
8892b3 No.14556767
>>14556606
>last image
Actual wizardry in a few months. I'm not sure how I feel about it.
969993 No.14556812
>>14556767
Be proud, anon. With society churning out harlots, whores, and fuckbois en masse, be proud you resisted the temptations, had self-control, or kept them at bay via spaghetti shield. A life without a woman is a life that can be used for better things. Wizardry is what separates us from normalfags. Wizardry is the advancement of a man. No longer be a slave to your primal urges. Instead, let your mind be free. A majority of people will end up non-virgins. Why not be special and set yourself apart?
3a2450 No.14556949
>>14547202
That brings back memories. Never did finish the game.
3a2450 No.14556953
>>14547352
>Nothing wrong with waifus.
There is when they're gender-bender trash
8426d5 No.14556961
>>14555738
The deal with him is that he is a time magician whose family and everyone else he cared about got killed.And he discovered this super powerful artifact that could rewind time but required gas-entire-species-and-sacrifice-their-souls levels of mana.
This naturally didn't really seem like a problem because hey, its not like they are gonna be dead when he rewinds time anyways.And that is all nice and dandy until he activates the thing.
All the mana he collected for 200 years and the direct tap from the source of all life only managed to send him back 20 minutes
85ea6f No.14557238
>>14553370
>a skeleton with tiddies
c2f0a3 No.14557473
whats the your guys opinion about warlocks?
5f999f No.14557481
>>14557473
They are limited.
c2f0a3 No.14557502
>>14557481
we need more warlocks in vidya dammit
ab9c7e No.14557510
>>14547421
wew, lets rolllllll
baf2f9 No.14558460
>>14557473
If we are talking warcraft warlocks are good if you want to make everyone in the entire game world rue the day they ever installed in the game. In other games they are just slightly edgier mages.