abdfa1 No.14516521
Is it a flop anons? I don't really know what sales for a fighting should be like on PC but it looks worryingly low to me.
abdfa1 No.14516522
>>14516521
for a fighting game*
5c8d8e No.14516529
>I don't really know what sales for a fighting should be like on PC but it looks worryingly low to me.
no it's pretty high for PC sales. Unless it's a PC exclusive genre or the game becomes a meme that's pretty high sales. Nier Automata sold exceptionally on PC and it didn't break a million sales.
abdfa1 No.14516533
>>14516529
>Nier Automata sold exceptionally on PC and it didn't break a million sales.
Really? Why are the numbers so low?
abdfa1 No.14516536
>>14516529
>>14516533
Oh wait don't PC games make more money per sale anyway? I remember it was something to do with not having to pay microsoft or sony a cut of the earnings.
d99246 No.14516540
Anything above like 100k is probably well above and beyond what they expected.
382c76 No.14516542
It's good enough for a commercial release and not bad for a niche game.
>>14516529
>>14516533
IIRC it sold over two millions on PC alone.
a3bc02 No.14516543
>>14516533
It's because of piracy fam, only piracy can explain the low numbers.
6665f6 No.14516544
>>14516533
Console peasants are numerous.
d99246 No.14516548
>>14516544
Correction: PC users are more numerous, but those with a bother a rig good enough to play anything other than Brood War and The Sims are not.
abdfa1 No.14516549
>>14516543
Well maybe but I don't think that would cover it all.
>>14516544
>>14516540
Then why bother with a PC release at all?
>>14516542
Two million is a more reasonable number I guess but wouldn't you have to spend a lot of that profit on a port and then support and patches?
5c8d8e No.14516552
>>14516536
no, sales across all platforms make the same money. Even PSN sales outdid Steam sales where the cut is equal. (30% goes to the service provider, the rest dev/pub split managed however it is)
>>14516542
No, it didn't. After a half off sale it finally broke to 900k.
>>14516549
>Then why bother with a PC release at all?
publicity? You don't have to make a particularly good port so not a lot of bodies are needed to be paid for it, and very often the users will fix any other issues themselves.
5c8d8e No.14516558
>>14516548
yeah, the meme that the PC gaming audience is bigger because there's more PCs than there are people in the world is really deceitful and adds nothing to discussion. It's all about what the audience actually wants. RTS? Best target the PC because the genre has been practically exclusive for its existence on PC, so the majority of the audience is there. High speed character action? Your target platform should be something like playstation.
d99246 No.14516559
>>14516549
All consoles use the same infrastructure as most computers now so there's no reason not to. For fucks sake Sony had a presentation whenever it was where they announced you can now directly port gamemaker games to PS4 and they'll do the legwork for you. It's why Undertale™ got a special edition.
abdfa1 No.14516563
>>14516559
Oh ok. I didn't know that.
18cc22 No.14516575
>>14516542
A Tomato broke 2.5 mil worldwide on all systems last week or two weeks ago, I believe. Currently the best selling game in Japland somehow.
c3650f No.14516577
>Is it a flop anons?
Not really, this game wasn't a bloated development money sink like FF XV was, so the sales are fine (and are probably around the same on the PS4). A lot of anons get too used to the budget and costs of AAA games that need huge numbers to make a profit.
c3650f No.14516579
>>14516577
Fuck, I meant to post this.
5c8d8e No.14516580
>>14516577
>(and are probably around the same on the PS4
fuck no. It's a world apart in sales.
513fe0 No.14516585
Tekken is the most selling fighting game franchise and I think T7 on Steam has like 400+k owners after like half a year. Compare it to that
4722af No.14516610
>>14516558
>>14516548
This: there's a ton of people out there who'll play shit like Dota 2 or anything that can run on a toaster but the non-F2P marker on PC is tiny and shrinking every day.
5c8d8e No.14516616
>>14516610
that's another big thing to consider in the pissing contests. When someone points out how many people play dota 2 and lol and CS, they need to realize that these people ONLY play dota 2, lol and CS. They don't play anything else. They are effectively not a participant in the market and just have one game on the system.
4722af No.14516623
>>14516616
Pretty much. It's not just a pissing contest though because devs - particularly indie devs - who buy into the meme end up losing customers and going bankrupt.
>>14516536
Valve take the exact same cut from any PC sale that Sony or Microsoft do from console sales.
c3650f No.14516628
>>14516580
Have they announced how much the sales have increased after Feb 1st? It seems they got the announcement from a Bamco press release.
d99246 No.14516630
>>14516616
They also probably don't actually play the game at all. I'm willing to bet the stats for any F2P game are fluffed largely by bots.
3d1ad8 No.14516633
>>14516598
Doesn't matter if they didn't refund the game.
6e78d6 No.14516645
>A flop
>Literally the highest selling competitive fighting game of the past 20 years
Competitive fighting games don't sell very much to begin with, so they don't have high sales goals or spend much money making them. These sales are legendary tier for fighting games, and it was a massive success for them.
4722af No.14516651
>>14516645
OP was talking specific about PC not about the game. At least I think he was because he wasn't very clear about it.
5c8d8e No.14516657
>>14516630
this is probably also true, especially in the case of csgo and dota 2 where they have an in-game economy that a single person could have a hundred accounts to manipulate it. This was the case for TF2 until recently.
>>14516623
>particularly indie devs - who buy into the meme end up losing customers and going bankrupt.
this is very important too. It's also where allocation of resources comes from when there's smaller developers working on a project, which you can ask just about anyone and they'll tell you that the more people working on something, the better it'll probably be. This is information decided upon by sales data and projected sales.
20450d No.14516719
>>14516633
Can't you only do that for a few hours anyway?
1ca9b7 No.14516905
>>14516521
its faring a hell of a lot better than dead or alive 5. that one dropped to 200 players in about a month
3d1ad8 No.14516919
>>14516719
Right. There's a ~2 hour time limit (though I've heard of people getting refunds past that) So it doesn't matter if nobody plays it anymore, so long as they bought it and didn't refund. Also, check my fucking dubs you niggerfaggot.
20450d No.14516985
>>14516919
Nice dubs anon.
d0a575 No.14516992
>>14516536
It also depends on the licensing agreement they have with Epic for use of the Unreal engine, usually it's 5% over $3,000 of gross revenue per quarter.
Instead of charging a flat fee per game when it's ported to several platforms it's often done with a custom license with different percantages per platform to encourage more ports and revenue.
In some cases the licensing costs for the engine might be paid for(Facebook does this for any developer working on Oculus) or waive their cut of the earnings to encourage timed exclusivity/bolster a dying platform(Microsoft does this for the Xbone).
Nobody knows what cut Valve takes from their sales or what percentage they have to pay to Epic so we can only speculate whether it's higher or lower than on consoles.
e17dc9 No.14517588
>>14516905
Dead or Alive is mostly for porn anyway.
7d066c No.14518276
>>14516521
>it looks worryingly low
Why are you worried about it? are you a shill? Why the fuck would the sales of a game worry someone? If you enjoy it that's all that matters.
7e30b0 No.14519845
>>14519698
You can rig strawpoll votes with proxies. Use poal.me instead.
20450d No.14519884
>>14518276
He probably bought it and was worried nobody would play with him. Some people don't understand the sunk costs fallacy.
81ea2b No.14519901
>>14516542
>IIRC it sold over two millions on PC alone.
>with denuvo
thats a lot of cucks.
5c8d8e No.14519905
>>14519901
denuvo doesn't impact sales. the only people who care any more weren't going to buy it anyway.
461be8 No.14520269
>>14516521
its still around ~17 million in revenue, and their budget probably wasn't that high.
and that's not even counting console revenues.
4722af No.14521426
>>14519845
Mark should really just filter strawpoll.me to use poal.me instead.
44c1df No.14521576
>>14521426
I'd be ok with this actually. For once a good use of filters.
c03433 No.14521592
>>14516521
>Fighting Game
>PC
there is your problem!
77511b No.14521794
>>14516905
>>14517588
The PC version had MKX-tier of problems during its release and still today doesn't feature lobbies that are available on consoles ever since the vanilla version of the game on the PS3 and 360.
As for DBFZ is by far the most successful fighting game on Steam. NRS games could have done better but the fucked up release of MKX and a very delayed Injustice2 didn't help the platform.
24c797 No.14521845
>>14516536
>I remember it was something to do with not having to pay microsoft or sony a cut of the earnings.
Are you retarded? Do you think Valve just gonna put the game on steam for free?
060320 No.14521879
>>14516549
50-100k sales are still millions of dollars in revenue which is more than the cost of porting to PC most of the time. Compared to console figures it seems bad, but there is absolutely no reason not to release on PC and rack that extra money unless the cost of porting is in the millions or the game is first party to begin with.
1a2b66 No.14522339
>>14516543
The game just got cracked recently. Piracy didn't do jack to this game's decent numbers.
For a fighting game it kicked ass.
02a9fa No.14522372
It sold 2 million in the first 2 weeks, street fighter 5 couldn't manage that in over a year. Its currently 4th in the US for sales.
989576 No.14522383
>>14522372
There was a new CoD?
f3804c No.14522393
>>14522383
Honestly you shouldn't be surprised by that. It's a yearly franchise, even if you don't pay attention to it it's expected that a new one will come out
271c96 No.14522398
>>14522372
I didn't even know CoD:WW2 was out.
Also holy fuck GTA5 is still in the charts.
c19a6d No.14522572
What I saw of it, shit seemed unbalanced as all hell, so I doubt the no fun espoot faggots will touch it.
c19a6d No.14522591
>>14522372
>street fighter 5 couldn't manage that in over a year
What a joke, that's never not going to cease hurting my sides.
701cc8 No.14522594
>>14516521
The game has sold around a combined 3 million copies. Fucking niggers. This is why we shoot you guys. If you want a flop here is a great one.
d8dc74 No.14522607
>>14522572
>so I doubt the no fun espoot faggots will touch it
It already bumped Marvel off of EVO and its tournaments are pretty popular.
Esports faggots only care if the money is there and sponsors will only push the money to something if it has the viewers.
c19a6d No.14522634
>>14522607
Weird, are they banning half the roster? Because some fuckers seemed cheap as hell. Yeah, I guess DBZ will just pull because it's DBZ. I bet the next iteration will be no fun then, fuckers.
c19a6d No.14522639
I guess there isn't really much competition at all right now in fight games. Even Mahvel sucked. Sad!
02a9fa No.14522649
>>14522634
It's considered kind of broken at the moment but it's still getting played a lot at tournaments.
d8dc74 No.14522677
>>14522634
Its fucking anime
nobody gives a shit about rules in those games.
95620e No.14522682
>>14522634
>Weird, are they banning half the roster? Because some fuckers seemed cheap as hell.
Arcsys usually just makes everyone broken in different ways instead of giving specific people hard nerfs. If they dish out nerfs they're generally taps or they cut back the entire cast so they can buff them in another revision.
0813ee No.14522683
>>14522634
Fightan faggots are generally very reluctant to ban 'broken' characters or tactics, they abuse them instead. This isn't Smash.
77511b No.14522700
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>>14522634
>>14522572
Balance doesn't matter as much to competitive players. In KOF'97 almost everybody has infinites and is the most played fighting game in China. MvC2 survived for for almost 10 years at EVO and that game has like 8 viable characters with 56 characters in its roster.
c19a6d No.14522750
>>14522683
>This isn't Smash.
Yeah, I guess you're right there.
c17bc1 No.14522757
>>14516521
i was thinking of buying it but it seemed a bit expensive then i saw the DLC and noped the fuck out without ever looking back
c19a6d No.14522766
Excuse me, my brain is just wired for Smash.
39565b No.14522797
I’m really hoping Arcsys makes a One Piece fighter that has crossplay with dbfz, like they did on the 3ds. As much as I love the difference in play of characters in Dragon Ball, the variety of character designs in One Piece is way better.
20450d No.14524675
>>14522766
>>14522750
>Smash
Not a fighting game.
d708a3 No.14525952
It is just a cash grab with paid DLC.
It wold be good it it failed.
abdfa1 No.14526000
>>14525952
But if it fails other devs will be less confident about fighting games on PC as a platform. Overall that would be harmful.
>>14524675
Honestly smash is more of a brawler or party game.
5894ad No.14526033
The sales are fine for a fighting game on PC, and they will be even better when the inevitable GOTY Complete edition comes out that's what I'm waiting for at least
20450d No.14526475
>>14526000
>Honestly smash is more of a brawler or party game.
So not a fighting game yes.
>>14526033
>when the inevitable GOTY Complete edition comes out
Honestly we need to start just calling these the finished version of games.
d708a3 No.14526945
>>14526000
So what?
It is better to have nothing than to have cash grabs with denuvo.
a13557 No.14527703
>>14522682
Except for Persona 4 Ultimax 2.0 where they went full retard, but as we know that was them intentionally killing the game so whatever.
20450d No.14530738
>>14527703
>but as we know that was them intentionally killing the game so whatever.
Why would anyone do that though?
ebb311 No.14532790
>>14526033
>The sales are fine for a fighting game on PC
Keep telling yourself that.
9be13f No.14532831
For fighting games you gotta remember that Sony likes to monopolize them by having playstations be the "tournament standard" console for everything. Sales on other platforms won't be quite as good because most people with any interest in tournaments will have their PS4 compatible stick and will stick to that console.
20450d No.14534619
>>14532831
>For fighting games you gotta remember that Sony likes to monopolize them by having playstations be the "tournament standard" console for everything. Sales on other platforms won't be quite as good because most people with any interest in tournaments will have their PS4 compatible stick and will stick to that console.
Why do tournaments buy into it though? Do they 'accidentally' get Sony funding? Doesn't it breach anti-trust laws?
9737f8 No.14535921
Pc has become a pretty shit platform to ship on lately. Games undersell quite a lot compared to consoles.We're talkin 10-20% of what it sells on consoles. Blame it on piracy, lack of pc gamers, whatever you want. But people aren't buying games for PC like they were 5ish years ago
7872d1 No.14536957
>>14535921
It's mostly piracy tbh.
2fa342 No.14537017
>>14522634
>Weird
It's the opposite of weird. It's standard.
02a9fa No.14537092
>>14532831
I remember sf4 had ps3s for tournament play until they finally switched to 360 due to the lag the ps3 version had.
c3cbce No.14537359
>>14536957
>>14535921
>piracy
Most modern games are complete garbage. Badly designed, poorly optimized, bland, uninspired cash grabs pumped out year after year with the sole purpose of sucking money out of people. Piracy has nothing to do with poor sales; remember that the UN suppressed a report they commissioned that showed there was no correlation between piracy and sales.
6d22b1 No.14537416
>>14537359
This and if you have a list of games to choose from that ranges from now to more then 20 years back. it's not that hard to play something else and wait for a sale.
20450d No.14541117
>>14537416
Or just fucking pirate it.
abdfa1 No.14541763
>>14541117
If you pirate it the devs won't port games in future.
cbc2b5 No.14541771
>>14541763
Not true, video game piracy increases sales.
t. EU.
01b25f No.14541970
>>14541763
Not if you like the game enough to pay for it after pirating it. It's a win win situation whereas everyone loses with intrusive DRM that affects computer performance.
839a14 No.14541993
>>14541763
with ports these awful good riddance
20450d No.14543995