/v/ - Video Games

Filling a gap in the market. It's common sense to do.

>>14511937

They were a traditional gaming company initially.

>physical

That counts as "physical" to you?

They're Nintendo-branded funko pops, DLC and merch, they just have the ability to do it much better since their competitors mismanaged their flagship franchises into the dirt, else we'd see a lot more halo shit and whatever Sony used to have

>>14511954

>that last pic

Suddenly, I feel good about being a wageslave.

>>14511952

They're all doing their own shit, which as you said is going digital. Nintendo "going physical", as you put it, can be seen as a reaction to this when looking at a timeline of events. Whether or not this is truly the reasoning I obviously cannot say, but looking at it from a business perspective it fits the bill of filling a marketplace void

COME ON AND GET PHYSICAL

>>14511952

>Filling a gap in the market. It's common sense to do.

<Then why isn't anyone else following them?

Holy fucking shit, are you even human? Get some fucking reading comprehension.

>>14511980

Mate.

If there were many people filing a gap in a market, then there would BE NO GAP.

The reason there is a gap to be filled in the first place is exactly because no one was doing it. And even if anyone did try to do it now, they'd be accused of ripping Nintendo off, and poorly at that since MS and Sony don't have the IPs for that.

>>14511952

>Then why isn't anyone else following them?

As a former toy company, and one of the largest in Japan for multiple markets, not just vidya, Nintendo is far better equipped to produce such things rather than Sony, Microsoft, or any PC platform that have a general focus on computers/other technologies than just vidya.

It should also be really fucking obvious that Nintendo is the one closest to marketing towards children, which would like these things the most.

>>14511980

>what is a niche

>I don't remember biology class

You must be 18 or older and have an IQ of 110 or higher to post here.

>>14511980

Not necessarily but Ninty will take the lion's share of it before anyone else, especially before they blow millions trying to play catch up

(See: that inane PS motion control thing and the kinect that came out after the Wii)

>>14511972

>completely off the wall ideas

As much as I hate jewtendo they're the only console and handheld manufacturer that has bothered to try innovating and inventing.

The others want to play it safe while Ninty has the sheer capital and savings to blow money on whatever they want

>>14511960

Honestly, this. They used to make cards and shit, so them returning to cardboard is sensible, they likely have old relationships with paper manufacturers that would allow them to more easily enter the market with cardboard.

Take, for instance, SEGA. Ever since Service Games was founded in Hawaii they created electromechanical arcades, with the advent of computerized games it wasn't a big shift for them to start producing units with silicone chips, which led after a decade or two into them building home consoles, which are just shitty arcades. After leaving the home console market they continued making arcades and even still electromechanical machines (like an item crane).

Usually business decisions with these types of more historied companies that have been around since before video games can be logically traced to their roots as a company.

Now, if Nintendo started producing shoes and dental floss you'd have yourself a very valid reason to question the purpose.

>>14512001

>it's expensive to start

Yes, getting contracts, setting up production and shitting out physical products in a field your company hasn't touched is hard.

>pointless to try and catch up if someone else got there first

Unless you have an obvious plan going in to "disrupt" the market or do something different in said field, yes. Digital is far easier for the electronic giants such as Sony and Xbox, why would they fight Nintendo on their homeground?

>>14511937

Because physical products is what makes them the majority of their money.

>>14511952

>Then why isn't anyone else following them?

<muh margins

MS and Sony are greedy as fuck, they don't have to pay for packaging and logistics with digital, only bandwidth. Physical also needs estimates on how many copies to produce. If you make too many, you end up like Battleborn with hundreds of thousands of discs no one can get rid of.

Not to mention, digital plugs the used game gap that Sony and MS have. But, Nintendo doesn't really have that problem, it's not like Mario is a yearly franchise and you can find last year's Mario in the bargain bin for $10, and it's 90% the same game as the new one. There's realistically a few reasons why MS and Sony want to get away from physical, and Nintendo wants to stay there.

>>14512001

Pretty much. Even if you do something that is similar to a popular site, you need to do something at least different to make it stand out. A comparison would be here over cuckchan. You could post more images in one post and you can have webms with sound. The other site, since I haven't checked that place in years, probably hasn't changed from one image a post and soundless webms I would assume. It also had very bad moderation from what I remember. You could get banned for the most banal things that happened a day or two ago. I hear they also have 60 second timers to post things if you're free.

Popularity of something on the other hand is different from whether it has better functionality or not. It's the reason why sites like reddit and facebook are still going, even if they've displayed questionable practices or just very dated-looking designs. Popularity of something is subjective to what people will put up with. I guess people naturally flock to what has more people supposedly on that platform, rather than the quality you'd get out of it. Even though, that kind of logic can be self-fulfilling in itself.

>>14512188

>an entire law for this shit

its simply called "network effects" in business classes, and yeah it basically describes just that. Social media and products that tend to involve social interaction tends to benefit the most from it.

>>14512197

Meltcalfe's law isn't just value increases with users, I should specify it's about "the value of a telecommunication service being proportional to the square of the number of users".

>>14512197

like steam and psn :^)

>why is nintendo taking over a gap with no competition?

really fuzzles the mindgrapes.

How are they going physical OP? You need to download every game on the Switch because cartridges are expensive.

I'd get physical with my Pokemon

>>14514072

>cuckchanner talking about retardation

the ironing

>>14512399

Because Nintendo know how to make actual video games and not just cinematic crap.

>>14512001

Exactly.

Whoever does best first, wins, and no one else can compete.

The reality of any market is that the first group that does the best thing first will stay at the top indefinitely, while any competition will fail.

>>14512009

>>14512126

>>14512151

Analysis like this that doesn't devolve into console wars shit is why I keep coming back here. Polite sage.

>>14511937

Amiiboos and Labo aren't game though, Sony got PS camera, PSVR, etc, doesn't mean its a push to physical gaming.

>>14511972

>Nintendo have a habit of either leading the market with completely off-the-wall ideas

That doesn't make it good, wii makes a push for motion control which is retarded and Amiiboos is a literal physical DLC and cancerous as fuck.

>>14514450

Why does Dunkey talk like a nigger?

>>14514325

Get that trash out of my face, skylanders was a fucking mistake

>>14516094

There are Star Trek amiiboos?

>>14514450

I cannot believe people are only now realizing this guy is a fucking retard. I would’ve figured they’d know after he called the Uncharted series a masterpiece but I guess not.

>>14516184

Are you retarded?

>>14516243

I do. It was the tits. The games were fucking fun and the figures were well made. It went so downhill so quickly it honestly makes my head spin.

>>14516208

>I would’ve figured they’d know after he called the Uncharted series a masterpiece but I guess not.

Masterpiece is a little strong but it's a great series.

>>14516094

>pokemon

Eh, most of those profits are likely going to the Pokemon Company itself. Nintendo just publishes the games.

>Simpsons

fucking britbongs I swear.

>>14516734

>fucking britbongs I swear.

Simpsons is an American show genius.

>>14516773

>Simpsons is an American show genius.

Literally every collector of the merchandise I've seen is from the UK retard.

>>14517531

>>14516773

Do bongs love Simpsons or something?

>>14521558

It's popular here I guess.

>>14517531

I find that unlikely.

>>14521558

>>14516773

Actually britbongs really really like the Simpsons it's on every day at 6pm.

>>14532241

that you saved pic 3 speaks volumes

>>14532265

What picture?

>>14511937

Nintendo are betting that their sycophantic customer base are blinded by the marketing to realise that on-disc DLC locked behind physical items is completely reprehensible. Ditto for selling cardboard for the price of a AAA release.

If any other company thought their fanbase would be this rabid they'd try the same thing. You see it every now and again when a company has a particularly strong response for something. Bethesda had a really good E3 showing, so they try paid mods. Both Sony and Microsoft tried to force through horrible design decisions because their previous console was a huge success. Suits are greedy, and when they think their customers are stupid enough they'll squeeze as hard as they can. For some reason though Nintendo's customer base are all in too deep to realise they're being fucked. Or they don't care. I'm not sure what's worse.

>>14511972

>cartridges

>outdated

Nigger what? Are you trying to be retarded?

Cartridges hold more data per unit area, are cheaper, more resistant to damage and last longer than discs.

The reason Microsoft, Sony et al use/d discs is because it could double as a CD/DVD player. The PS1 has a very good CD player and the PS2 sold as well as it did, originally, because it was a cheap DVD player.

As both wanted to make media platforms rather than video game consoles, they kept using the inferior product.

And before you call bullshit and say that the Switch's cartridges only go up to 16GB, that's because:

a) Nintendo forces optimisation onto Devs that the others don't, so they don't need as much data capacity

and

b) They are being cheap

They do have 64GB cards coming next year, though, which I'm interested to see what games will use all that space.

>>14516050

Still waiting on LEGO Dimensions piracy. Looks like lots of fun, especially with things like Sanic and Scooby-Doo getting tie ins.

>>14516734

>Eh, most of those profits are likely going to the Pokemon Company itself. Nintendo just publishes the games.

Wrong. Nintendo owns every single trademark, GameFreak uses those trademarks free of charge, Creature has some kind of small stake in the franchise (wouldn't be more than 20%) and The Pokemon Company is co-owned by Nintendo, GF and Creature, so we can ignore that.

Nintendo has complete control in terms of trademarks, so they almost certainly own >50% of the franchise, so they have at least $27.5b USD from the franchise so far. I'd guess they own closer to 60-70%, as GF and Creature are devs and don't really need as much money, as they can just ask Nintendo for it and likely get it. Giving devs too much money at the start always leads to shit.

>>14539666

Cartridges have been outdated for two decades lad.

>>14539666

>Cartridges hold more data per unit area, are cheaper, more resistant to damage and last longer than discs… The reason Microsoft, Sony et al use/d discs is because it could double as a CD/DVD player.

This dumb motherfucker thinks cartridges were cheaper than CDs and DVDs to manufacture!

>>14542407

Isn't that literally the reason they died out?

>>14544136

it'll look worse than that, as well