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Fallout was never good.

The problem is that F1 and F2 are almost completely different genres of gameplay than F3, FNV, F4 and comparing them is pointless.

It's actually the worst one. It's unfinished, it's empty, it's got awful world design, 3 out of 4 of its DLCs are utter shit and the whole game is essentially just a demo for a faction system that will never see an actual good game.

>>14509286

This is true, as videogames, the Fallout titles fail miserably but the setting and characters are fun.

>>14509410

If the gameplay is shit the game is shit, that's the rule. It's why VNs are unsalvageable other than for fapping.

>>14508812

Could've been better if they actually had time. They probably would've threw away the shitty gamebryo engine. Tactics still stands as the only good Fallout imo.

>>14508812

All Fallout games have shitty customization compared to other CRPG's out there. That's why they're boring as fuck. I can't get myself to replay any Fallout game. For all its failings, Fallout 4 actually did a good job by adding complexity to the equipment customization, even though it's still not quite Morrowind level.

>>14509421

Best quests and NPC interactions: Fallout 2

Best atmosphere: either Fallout 1 or 3

Best combat, controls, customization, and sandbox gameplay, but worst at everything else: Fallout 4

>>14509437

Tactics was trash, it's linear as fuck.

>>14509480

Don't really care tbh. The amount of guns appeals to my autism. All the others just aren't as good.

>>14509485

If you want xcom just go play xcom.

>>14509493

It reminds me more of JA2, but in the fallout universe. I'm burnt out on xcom from playing it 15+ years ago.

>>14509432

can't apply game criteria if they aren't games

>>14509493

X-Com, xcom is console trash.

>>14509503

I've never played a JA game but at least I heard they have better exploration than Fallout Tactics.

>>14509286

1, 2, and NV are good fun

>>14509567

1, 2, 3, and NV are boring as shit tbh.

>>14508812

FONV is the best game ever made. 1 failed to launch, 2 was a stupid and tactics was pathetic, 3 was as good as 1.

Fight me.

>>14509607

>2 was a stupid

And hilarious, although the pop culture references are cringeworthy.

>3 was as good as 1

I agree with this.

>>14509652

Central plot in any Fallout game has never captivated me tbh. I really don't care if it's shit. I hate how all Fallout games have a main questline. I'd prefer if it was just you as a random nobody wandering the wasteland for no predetermined reason, stumbling upon various NPC's and small non-interconnected scenarios, probably add things like faction relationship and stuff. Like New Reno in Fallout 2, that was some good shit.

Fallout is shit, if it released today anons would hate it.

The Fallout 3 content can be fun if you use Tale of Two Wastelands and basically just treat it like a really high production value fan mod. Still kills my framerate though for some reason.

Fallout has always been a terrible series with half-baked gameplay elements and poor writing. Pick any big-name JRPG and it'll be a thousand times better.

Fallout 4

>>14509996

Is a shit game.

>>14515028

Every Fallout game is shit, but some are less so.

this entire thread is autistic as fuck

>>14508812

reminder that its false.

In his last interview Todd Howard talked about how he was making a concept art of a game called Apocalypse Road back in 2002, that was 2 years before Zenimax brought the Fallout franchise. There was no fantastic spectacle in the art, only an empty highway and a rusty road sign that says apocalypse road. Sounds like he was inspired by an extremely desolate and dystopian Cormac McCarthy's novel "The Road". I'd very much prefer that to Fallout 3 or any Fallout game for that matter tbh, why are immensely gloomy and depressing post apocalyptic games so rare?

>>14509477

>Best atmosphere: either Fallout 1 or 3

if i wanted to see niggers not doing anything for over 200 years I'd visit south africa and not play video games

>>>/cuckchan/

>>14516206

Cuckchan disabled v1 captcha so there's a flood of refugees.

Enjoy your hell.

If you enjoy any of Brian Fargo's games you should kill yourself tbh

>>14516221

>if i wanted to see niggers not doing anything for over 200 years I'd visit south africa and not play video games

The settlers migrated to DC only about 40 years before Fallout 3 though. Vegas in comparison didn't get any of the bomb damage due to Mr House's protection field or something, yet it still looks like trash.

>>14509607

The best game ever made? That's crazy.

Or did you just mean best Fallout ever made?

>>14516221

>if i wanted to see niggers not doing anything for over 200 years I'd visit south africa and not play video games

I don't think you've actually played 3 or at least didn't pay attention to the underlying lore.

>>14516207

What even happened to Todd.

>>14509503

I'd love a real JA2 in Fallout.

>>14516233


>>14516221


Blaming everything on cuckchan means nothing will ever get better, please stop doing it. Nobody left on that shithole has the slightest interest in coming here and using it to excuse the legitimate problems /v/ currently has is blinding us to real solutions. Polite sage because this is a triplepost.

>>14516279

Second quote should be >>14516221 don't know why it fucked up.

>shits in hand

>see, it's better than on the floor, it's more personal

>>14516284

What does this even mean?

>>14516150

I always ended up taking him and Boone around with me for some reason. Never really liked anyone else enough to keep them for long.

>>14516233

>anyone calling games with shitty gameplay as shit are cuckchan

no you

your image posted is not the way vegas turned out, at all. just because it isn't inherently obsidian's fault that the game is shit doesn't make it not shit, the gameplay is improved by maybe 15% over f3 because of the DT system and that's it, it's still fucking trash and you can't even play it for the story because the game is so unstable, the graphics are so godawful, the animations are so unbelievably shit, that immersion was impossible in 2010 let alone 2018

>>14516297

>He get some analyzed market data telling him what shit to put in his games then goes that tells the studio what to add then probably lets them do fuck all since apparently he is way too laid back with his employees and then around release he gets a speech with pretty little lies to spew at E3.

But how did he get like that?

>Then what the fuck is the problem then? Since there has been an influx of poster who seem to hate everything from NV, STALKER and Mountain Blade. Where are these poster coming from? Are you implying these posters have always lurked here and just NOW are brave enough to post their shitty opinion?

There's always been people shitting up the stalker and warband threads with (1) and done posts, NV less so but I've always seen it. The problem is now everyone is just blaming it on outside sources instead of salvaging the threads and trying to engage and educate these anons on the games. Hard as it is to believe there really are anons who think STALKER is nothing but a broken slavic meme and if we just write that off as cuckchan posting instead of helping them to play the game /v/'s quality will decline further because anons just adopt the most common opinion they hear. When someone who genuinely holds an opinion like that just gets replied to with >>>/cuckchan/ it confirms their bias.

tl;dr educate anons don't just pretend people with opinions that don't match yours don't exist

>>14516352

Its not about that. Its about the massive influx of these opinions that a thread would get sagebombed.

>But how did he get like that?

What do you mean? What can he do too keep his investors happy and not get fired but doo is mister marketer says. I think Todd is like a kids, his not good at what he does but genuinely likes what he makes and does whatever the big brother tells him.

>>14516384

>Its not about that. Its about the massive influx of these opinions that a thread would get sagebombed.

Argue them around to your way of thinking that's why we're on imageboards isn't it?

>What do you mean? What can he do too keep his investors happy and not get fired but doo is mister marketer says. I think Todd is like a kids, his not good at what he does but genuinely likes what he makes and does whatever the big brother tells him.

I guess I just always forget the shareholders have a strangehold on developers and publishers.

>>14516337

Anon everyone here knows the engine used with NV is beneath dogshit. It's everything else about the game I appreciate, like how it's an actual RPG rather than a shooting game with stats like many other games in [current year]. If you're a graphics and animation whore you can always install mods

>>14516297

>Since there has been an influx of poster who seem to hate everything from NV, STALKER and Mountain Blade.

>stop hating what i like!

STALKER is objectively a broken game with shitty design and fucked up coding. Mountain Blade is a really repetitive grindy game with shallow RPG mechanics. NV is only barely better than FO3. There are logical reasons why people don't like these game, settle down fag.

>>14516400

>like how it's an actual RPG rather than a shooting game with stats

The shooting part is really bad in NV though. I think it's even a downgrade from FO3 in some ways, such as having not much place to take cover or flank enemies. The enemy AI was worse somehow and although the game runs smoother than Fallout 3 in general, the framerate really goes to shit in some areas and during combat, so it's not much of an upgrade.

>If you're a graphics and animation whore you can always install mods

No mods can fix the really crappy gunplay.

>>14516970

reddit tier argument

>>14516941

>it would have been much better off as an isometric rpg

That would make it even worse.

>none of it is obsidian's fault

>implying

Shitty level design and poorer optimization than Fallout 3 were their fault. The Washington monument area in FO3 was far bigger than The Strip and had more NPC's in it shooting at each other, yet it the framerate didn't drop.

>>14509286

/thread

>>14517541

More please?

Also how come there's no good freaky lewd mods for the fallout games that let me dick deathclaws and other monsters.

>>14518123

Who is the creator of this? i want to give them all my love.

>>14508812

is the new vegas shilling ironic or are you faggots legit just retarded?

>>14509673

Well 3 is shit outside of the central plot. As an RPG it fails on almost every mechanic and as a game it's designed for mouth breathing retards.

me

>>14508812

It's the only good Fallout game, period.

>>14518303

Please bait on lesser image boards.

>>14518337

Its not bait its reverse truth.

>>14518348

Please bait on lesser image boards.

Who's excited for the B42 mod?

>working bow and arrow

>working airplane

>dual wielding

>weapon inertia

>lean function

>>14518418

The problem is once you start banning people just because their taste in a game is objectively shit you start pissing off the censorship anons. And if you filter them they just see no argument and figure their opinions are accepted. I say do what this board was primarily based to do and debate what's wrong with games on an objective level. God forbid people see discussing why a game is bad or good as counter intuitive to /v/.

Basically you can't draw a clear line on what is and isn't a bannable offense on vidya that everybody will agree with so it's just better to outwit them in an argument and bully/laugh at them when they're wrong.

>>14518441

So you are saying there is no hope since its all so tiresome to just post the same argument every fucking time to some anons who have probably already had this fucking argument yesterday but just choose to act like jews and ignore everything that was previously said.

>>14518527

What is your name?

>>14518479

Screencap your arguments and say you've had this discussion before. It worked for the Overwatch generals. If you have to re-iterate an argument then that means there's a fault in it. Bring up the fundamental flaws in a game and if they can't back up why it's wrong then you've essentially won the argument. You can do this in less than 3 posts if you're not a braindead retard.

I unironically liked Fallout 3 better than NV. I prefer the post-apocalypse setting of 3 to the post-post-apocalypse setting of NV. Yes I'm aware 3 shit all over the lore, but that has nothing to do with how good a game it was.

>>14518634

Gameplay wise NV is better.

>>14518640

Not really. The invisible walls in NV were annoying.

>(12)

>people falling for the bait again

>>14518646

As apposed to the invisible walls in 3? Dunno what your argument here is.

>>14518232

Anon the central plot of 3 is the worst part of the game.

>>14518682

No I'm saying that if you ignore the plot it's still fucking garbage.

>>14518694

Oh well yeah. I can't believe people can say NV is empty when 3 was 90% subway tunnels and bombed out buildings.

>>14518709

Well that's when you get into the DC area. The out areas are just the opposite. They're empty boring areas and bombed out buildings. NV objectively has more going on on with its towns and NPC's as well.

>>14518634

3 is the least worst for sure.

>>14518998

Confusing 3 for NV.

>>14519083

3 is actually fun in small doses.

>>14509410

>as videogames, this video game fails as a video game

>>>/somethingawful/

>>>/reddit/

>>>/cuckchan/

And stay there.

>>14516150

Hey so what's the mod for that gun?

>>14509286

What is a good game for you?

>>14519139

Any dose is terminal.

>>14519255

Fuck off Stephan mollyneux or how ever you spell that cluster fuck of a surname. Fallout NV is one of the best games in recent gaming history. You should deal with it.

>>14519292

What?

>>14519328

You heard me

>>14519381

I did but I'm not comprehending it. We're talking about 3 not NV.

>>14519411

>>14519423

I will fight both of you.

>>14519430

You would swing and hit a cactus if it's anything like your wording.

>>14519459

I called you the argument guy because of your posts here

>>14518441

>>14518617

>>14518667

With 12 posts you talked about arguments 6 times.

I am not the smartest guy but I fight very well, in fact its like the only thing I am good at.

>>14519468

That's not an argument.

>>14519468

You need to take some ritalin and lay down.

>>14519480

Very diplomatic of you

>>14519484

No I don't like my ADHD medication it makes me feel dull

>>14519490

>I try

>Fuck you

<[Charisma 2/6] Y-you too-o.

>>14519504

I don't understand are you making fun of me?

>>14519632

I'll grant there are some anons out there just being contrarian fucks but I've disliked Fallout for years. In fact here's why:

1 is a bad mixture of great ideas and poorly combined gameplay mechanics.

2's meme writing and one-dimensional antagonist ruin the game.

Tactics is a needless genre shift.

There's no such game as BoS so I don't know what happened there.

3 is actually a fun game with terrible writing but once you turn off the analyitical part of your mind and just roll with it it's a good ride.

NV is an unfinished mess plagued with invisible walls and mary-sue companions.

I don't think I need to cover 4 at this point.

I normally don't go into detail because going against the /v/ hivemind gets you shit on but anons now being willing to actually analyse the 'classics' in depth is a good thing. Much better than 'what's the /v/ consensus on x' for the 80th time.

>>14516221

>cuckchan disabled v1 captcha

Didn't that happen back in 2014?

>>14519757

>Explain.

Nigger it's basically required to follow a build guide on your first playthrough if you don't want to have the game be unwinnable.

>Granted, but "ruin" seems harsh. That seems to be throwing the baby out with the bathwater, or rather a car enthusiast hating a vehicle because it is puke brown in color, while ingoring the excellent engine, performance, suspsension, etc. It's just uncharacteristic. The meme writing is grating I'll grant, but it is such a small percent of the total the game has to offer that it's hard to imagine that it completely ruins it.

Without quality writing it's just a mechanically uninteresting crpg. I suppose ruin was to far but it's not worth the hype it gets.

>It's a fun game, a shit Fallout game that fails to deliver on the promise of the series. Agreed 100%. the atmoshpere of that game carries it completely, if it didn't have it nobody would give a fuck about it

Actually being fun to play is what it has over every other Fallout though. Also yeh the atmosphere is brilliant.

>Same as my response to 2. I've always found the "muh invisible walls" thing completely baffling - not only can you download a simple mod to remove them, but where actually are they a real issue? If you tried to go places and the game blocked you every ten minutes from somewhere, I can see complaining about it. I've put in 500 hours of NV and the only invisible wall that really was annoying and grating was the one around Quarry Junction, other than that I can't even think of another one. (Perhaps someone will rebut with "But I tried to climb some hill somewhere, and it wouldn't let me!" And I would reply, who gives a shit? If there is no location or content at the top of the hill, who cares at all? It's one thing for a developer to deliberately impede your progress because they think you can't handle it, and another to prevent you from wasting your time looking at all the fucking nothing they put at the top of their setpiece.)

For me the walls were a constant annoyance but maybe I'm just the type who explores stuff. I actually preferred 3's way of openly signposting to you where you could and couldn't go with the metro.

>There are valid criticisms of 1, 2, and NV I'll admit, but defaulting to "it's shit lol" because normalcattle are starting to wise up that they are classics decidedly isn't "actual analysis". Say what you will about the very short length of 1, the memetics of 2, the garbage engine of New Vegas. But to say these games are all bad, on par with Bethesturd's offerings, is just off-handed contrarianism.

It's a problem sure.

>>14519797

Hello there mr goon.

>>14519802

>it's basically required to follow a build guide on your first playthrough if you don't want to have the game be unwinnable.

Confirmed for toddler.

>Actually being fun to play is what it has over every other Fallout though

Except it's not? NV brings about a dozen new combat and choice mechanics to the table and actually has a believable world behind it.

>and yeh the atmosphere is brilliant

If you consider an illogical and plot hole filled world behind a green tint brilliant then yea I guess.

>I actually preferred 3's way of openly signposting to you where you could and couldn't go with the metro.

The metro rarely even comes into play outside of the south eastern portion of the map and NV rarely has a single area that you would think of as inhibiting. I can see the idea behind this complain but it barely measures as an actual complaint.

>>14519632

2's been known as a shit meme game for its pop culture references 10 years ago on imageboards. Stop trying to fit in reddit.

>>14519797

-t. vore fetishist

>>14519757

>>14519802

The thing with Fallout 3 is, Todd planned to make a much more bleak game that was called Apocalypse Road before Bethesda told him to make a Fallout sequel. The result was a dissonant mixture of wretched and decaying apocalyptic imagery, cheesy scifi wackiness of Fallout, out of place humor of Fallout 2, and Emil Paguilero's forced daddy issue drama. I think many people (but classic fallout fans themselves) enjoyed this dissonance though, but I'd still rather see what Apocalypse Road would be.

With 4, they sort of tried to fully embrace Fallout 2's humor. The uniquely wretched atmosphere of Apocalypse Road was gone entirely and it literally turned into Borderlands 3.

>>14519840

>Confirmed for toddler.

Nice argument there.

>NV brings about a dozen new combat and choice mechanics to the table

None of them actually meaningful. The ability to handload is worthless when you never have to use it.

>and actually has a believable world behind it.

Doesn't affect gameplay and without a proper exploration of the Legion it's hardly believable.

>If you consider an illogical and plot hole filled world behind a green tint brilliant then yea I guess.

Writing =/= atmosphere.

>The metro rarely even comes into play outside of the south eastern portion of the map and NV rarely has a single area that you would think of as inhibiting. I can see the idea behind this complain but it barely measures as an actual complaint.

It was an issue for me.

>>14519852

That actually explains a lot.

>>14519871

It's not that Todd dindu nutin, it's just he wanted to make a different game. He's responsible for letting fallout get too wacky, he doesn't really understand fallout.

>>14519855

>Nice argument there.

If you're not willing to put the effort required to beat a game then don't bitch about it. How's that for an argument?

>>14519855

>None of them actually meaningful.

You can literally buff yourself with half of the new shit you get to become much more capable of surviving as apposed to most of the broken or useless shit that was in 3.

>The ability to handload is worthless when you never have to use it.

Talking about customized ammunition, added buffs to certain weapons and armors that the original game didn't have, added perks to the SPECIAL stats that 3 never had, multiple melee benefits and so on. If you haven't played the game to explore these functions then again, don't bitch.

>Doesn't affect gameplay and without a proper exploration of the Legion it's hardly believable

>story in an RPG doesn't effect the gameplay

You can stop being retarded now.

>legion is hardly believable

It's perfectly believable when you consider the actual circumstances of the universe. You think a perfect government is going to come out of a wasteland after an initial dropout? The Legion was a believable response to one of the early efforts to rebuild a stable form of governing after a full breakdown of humanity and this aspect is explored to some extent in the game.

>Writing =/= atmosphere.

Atmosphere encompasses your belief in the world you're in. Without basic laws in a universe your impression of an atmosphere is weakened. There's also the fact that the entire game is ran through a puke green filter and that the way the land is structured is objectively uninspired and samey. The amount of reused models in each cell is amazing.

>It was an issue for me.

But objectively it's not an issue and isn't worth bringing up. there's very little wrong with it outside of autistic complaints.

>>14519898

>If you're not willing to put the effort required to beat a game then don't bitch about it. How's that for an argument?

If the devs aren't willing to put the effort in to make a good game I'm not going to bother completing it.

>You can literally buff yourself with half of the new shit you get to become much more capable of surviving as apposed to most of the broken or useless shit that was in 3.

And it's completely unnecessary to do it even if you turn on the hardcore mode that just messes with inventory management.

>Talking about customized ammunition, added buffs to certain weapons and armors that the original game didn't have, added perks to the SPECIAL stats that 3 never had, multiple melee benefits and so on. If you haven't played the game to explore these functions then again, don't bitch.

More =/= better though, that just unbalances the game.

>You can stop being retarded now.

I'm not the one claiming story is gameplay.

>It's perfectly believable when you consider the actual circumstances of the universe. You think a perfect government is going to come out of a wasteland after an initial dropout? The Legion was a believable response to one of the early efforts to rebuild a stable form of governing after a full breakdown of humanity and this aspect is explored to some extent in the game.

What people tell you about the legion and what you see of them is completely at odds it's immersion breaking and how they're portrayed in the game is just moustache-twirlingly evil.

>Atmosphere encompasses your belief in the world you're in. Without basic laws in a universe your impression of an atmosphere is weakened.

Atmosphere is made up primarily made up of level design, audio work and graphics three things 3 does better. Also I never had a problem believing in 3's world.

>There's also the fact that the entire game is ran through a puke green filter and that the way the land is structured is objectively uninspired and samey. The amount of reused models in each cell is amazing.

I fail to see how NV is any better other than slightly changing the colour of the filter. Also 3 might have reused models but at least each part of the map was interesting and not just more desert.

>>14519899

>even if it was entirely stupid that people hadn't discovered farming in 200 years

They've only been there for 40 years, at most. Also, lack of clean water means that crops won't grow, and there are mutants and gangs all over the town.

>>14519899

> However, the strength of 1 and 2 is that you can make the shittiest character imaginable and if you know what you're doing, you can still make it through

That's if you know what you're doing though. Not applicable to a first playthrough.

>I suppose. I'd still argue that 95% of the writing of 2 is quality, with random offerings of memeshit sprinkled through, still not much of a dealbreaker to me.

Really depends how much the references bother you I guess.

>That begs the question of whether railroading you into corridors or having some barren open peaks blocked off is worse.

I prefer to know my limits personally.

> I'm curious, and since you seem to be discussing in good faith, I'll ask you - what tales of the invisble walls ruining shit do you have? As I said before, the complaints about this are completely alien to me, since I've had next to zero run ins with this as a problem. (Same with people constantly saying the game is buggy and notorious for crashes, when I myself can count on one hand the times the game has shitted out on me. Luck of the draw perhaps?)

I remember distinctly running into one while messing around near the NCR prison, one near the Dinosaur Motel and I think one close to the plant Vault but I honestly can't remember more specifics than that. I haven't tried the game against since I played it back near release I bought it because I sort of liked 3 so my memory is mostly just the big annoyances, maybe that's unfair and I should give it another shot some time.

>>14509286

>>14509286

This, along with STALKER and Half-Life.

>>14519899

>>14519987

Come to think of it maybe they patched the walls down a bit since release but I really doubt they'd change something so fundamental to the map's design.

>>14519999

>While it sucks that the legion didn't get fleshed out, not being able to explore their homeland in no way impacts the backstory and their actions in the Mojave. Their barbarism is plain to see, they don't have to do it in Arizona in order for it to be legit and believable.

But the point is everyone keeps saying they aren't barbarians in Arizona. It's silly to imagine everyone joining a group that does nothing but rape/murder/loot all day and even claims guns are inferior weapons for some bullshit reason.

>The water point was always stupid too, since radioactive particles sink in water, leaving the water itself perfectly rad-free. Notice how in NV they acknowedged this fact by making Lake Mead and the Camp Golf Lake rad free.

Radiation in fallout also does funky shit like creating ghouls and actually glowing green, it's hardly realistic.

>>14520021

>Radiation in fallout also does funky shit like creating ghouls and actually glowing green, it's hardly realistic.

This. Falloutfags don't understand what they want. They let all the wacky scifi fantasy shit exist in Interplay and Obsidian Fallout while slamming FO3 for it's inconsistencies. Also, that's not even a good point, since drinking dirty water in NV also gives you radiation.

>>14520050

>Also, that's not even a good point, since drinking dirty water in NV also gives you radiation.

I forgot about that but yeh that does seem inconsistent.

>>14519988

STALKER is good when modded, just like Fallout. HL is just irredeemable, but at least it gave us Gary's Mod.

>>14519937

>If the devs aren't willing to put the effort in to make a good game

Maybe it's not meant for retards like you then. God forbid you put a little effort into your experiences.

>And it's completely unnecessary to do it even if you turn on the hardcore mode that just messes with inventory management

Tell me that the next time you clear out the Deathclaw Quarry in a decent amount of time.

>More =/= better though

It does when 3 was as barebones and without context as it was.

>that just unbalances the game.

3 was already unbalanced faggot. NV was more balanced by far but not entirely obviously. But at least your stats actually meant more than in 3 and your buffs were fully capable of getting you past tougher situations.

>I'm not the one claiming story is gameplay.

I'm not the one who has no idea what an RPG is.

>it's immersion breaking and how they're portrayed in the game is just moustache-twirlingly evil.

Then maybe you should actually play the fucking game like I said. Your interpretation of them is based on the world we live in now. In the context of NV it makes sense.

>Atmosphere is made up primarily made up of level design

And the level design in 3 is objectively shit. Dungeon areas are more linear, enemy encounters are more bare bones and without much situational context and there's no consideration gone into the towns and how they exist.

>audio work

Considering audio was occasionally re-used in NV and that there was more voice actors in NV I don't see what you're saying here at all.

>graphics

Green filter and low res. What's your point?

>three things 3 does better

How so? Because I fail to see much.

>Also I never had a problem believing in 3's world

You mean the broken karma system and Megaton's complete mystery as how it even functions on what little resources it has while living next to a radioactive bomb never brought you any questions? I mean I guess any world is believable in your books.

>I fail to see how NV is any better other than slightly changing the colour of the filter

There's landmarks that make sense to the area you're located in and new areas often have more situations and context behind them. There's more settlements than 3, and more, NPC's and thought put into each of them. The areas you find in 3 is a grocery store ran by some raiders or a series of satellites ran by more raiders.

>Also 3 might have reused models but at least each part of the map was interesting and not just more desert.

Replace the word "desert" with "wasteland" and you would have a better analogy then yours. A desert makes sense for being somewhat empty. The core of DC isn't much of a "believable" world and you know it. Especially with how limited it was already with how few actual settlements there were.

>>14520050

>implying you can't have a world with fantasy/sci-fi elements but also have them make sense in the world their in

People don't shit on 3 for it's far fetched elements. They shit on it for having elements that are inexplicable or don't make sense in any context we're given. Fawkes telling you to commit suicide through radiation because it's "not his destiny" despite him being a super mutant who is immune to radiation is a great example of the game universe not accepting its fantasy elements in favor of just being fucking retarded for little reason outside of quickly patching a story element to where a DLC would later be.

>>14520075

>I'd say there's a big difference in taking creative liberties with effects, and completely trying to contradict reality.

Actually, not really. Radiation making living creatures stronger doesn't make sense. Life forms changing that much in the span of 100-200 years doesn't make the slightest sense. It makes less sense than water being radiated.

>>14520102

I'm not trying to defend Fallout 3's plot, but I'm just going to say that not everyone cares about plot. Fallout 3 is loved for it's exploration and main premise, not it's plot which I guess pretty much everyone will agree that it's pretty retarded.

>>14520075

>You make a weird point to be sure, but something to keep in mind - Fallout was released back in the days when the game's instruction manual was a small novella, and you were actually expected to read it before you played. Perhaps factor that in to your concept of how it was supposed to work. Of course someone dropping into it in current year would have no fucking clue what to do, games didn't exactly have 2 hour tutorial levels back then, all of that was relegated to the manual, especially for a cRPG as complex as Fallout.

Well true although 2's Temple of Trials was pretty much a tutorial and a boring one at that. Actually it was another one that seemed to favour certain builds as well.

>As another anon said maybe it was dialed back in a later patch

Actually that was me but yeh maybe that's it. It'd explain why only some people have the complaint too.

>>14520086

>Maybe it's not meant for retards like you then. God forbid you put a little effort into your experiences.

<I'm a retard because the game is badly made

>Tell me that the next time you clear out the Deathclaw Quarry in a decent amount of time.

What?

>It does when 3 was as barebones and without context as it was.

3 had plenty to keep me going most of the new stuff added in NV I didn't even use.

>3 was already unbalanced faggot. NV was more balanced by far but not entirely obviously. But at least your stats actually meant more than in 3 and your buffs were fully capable of getting you past tougher situations.

Or break the game's challenge.

>I'm not the one who has no idea what an RPG is.

Do you know what a video game is?

>Then maybe you should actually play the fucking game like I said. Your interpretation of them is based on the world we live in now. In the context of NV it makes sense.

It really doesn't.

>And the level design in 3 is objectively shit. Dungeon areas are more linear, enemy encounters are more bare bones and without much situational context and there's no consideration gone into the towns and how they exist.

That's aesthetic level design and world building more than actual gameplay level design which is where NV sucks.

>Considering audio was occasionally re-used in NV and that there was more voice actors in NV I don't see what you're saying here at all.

And the voice actors were worse fucking Felicia Day was in it.

>Green filter and low res. What's your point?

Ditto for NV but orange.

>How so? Because I fail to see much.

Play it and look.

>You mean the broken karma system and Megaton's complete mystery as how it even functions on what little resources it has while living next to a radioactive bomb never brought you any questions? I mean I guess any world is believable in your books.

Suspension of disbelief.

>There's landmarks that make sense to the area you're located in and new areas often have more situations and context behind them. There's more settlements than 3, and more, NPC's and thought put into each of them. The areas you find in 3 is a grocery store ran by some raiders or a series of satellites ran by more raiders.

More still isn't better.

>Replace the word "desert" with "wasteland" and you would have a better analogy then yours. A desert makes sense for being somewhat empty. The core of DC isn't much of a "believable" world and you know it. Especially with how limited it was already with how few actual settlements there were.

It's believable enough for me and actually fun to explore.

>>14520059

STALKER is pretty worthless to be honest the gunplay was just terrible.

>>14520086

>I'm not the one who has no idea what an RPG is.

RPG's gameplay isn't about story, idiot. I'd let you slide if you said that NV is a better RPG because it has better NPC interactions, but to say that RPG gameplay revolves around a story is retarded.

>And the level design in 3 is objectively shit.

Compared to NV? That's laughable.

>Dungeon areas are more linear

easier to navigate due to less lazily put toghether =/= linear

>enemy encounters are more bare bones and without much situational context

Considering the setting, it makes sense that not much context is needed, but I agree that faction wars in NV makes the encounters more fun. It has nothing to do with atmosphere though, just enjoyable gameplay.

>there's no consideration gone into the towns and how they exist.

Wrong because you can learn the history of every town.

>Considering audio was occasionally re-used in NV and that there was more voice actors in NV I don't see what you're saying here at all.

The ambient background noise and soundtrack are better than NV's.

>Green filter and low res

Well NV is orange filter and even worse looking textures.

>Megaton's complete mystery as how it even functions on what little resources it has while living next to a radioactive bomb

It's because the bomb worshipers who helped to build the town wanted to live near the bomb dumbass.

>There's landmarks that make sense to the area you're located in and new areas often have more situations and context behind them.

There are landmarks in 3 too.

>There's more settlements

>The core of DC isn't much of a "believable" world and you know it. Especially with how limited it was already with how few actual settlements there were.

Because Mr House protected Mojave from the nuclear missiles while DC didn't stand a chance since they must be the first to be bombed, being the capital of the US.

>>14520207

I also had a weird issue with invincibility frames in STALKER that I didn't like.

>>14519962

Solid Project

Project Nevada

NVEC

Bullet velocity

CaLiber

>>14520207

>damages genes and can make them express different aspects

They'll all die of cancer and broken organs before that happens.

>There's also FEV to consider

The only possible explanation.

>No.

Whatever your opinion is, water in NV is also radiated the same way water in FO3 is radiated so your argument doesn't hold up nevertheless.

>>14520207

>>14520216

STALKER's gunplay is shit due to the bullet sponges, lazy accuracy spread mechanics, and the stiffness of recoil and gun handling animations. It's about as realistic as Half Life. The only thing realistic about STALKER's gunplay is the projectile system and sound effects.

>>14509286

Uh-oh, here's you (You)

>>14520240

I dunno I'd shoot people and they wouldn't take damage during their animation from the first shot.

>>14520141

>Fallout 3 is loved for it's exploration and main premise

NV doesn't have either of these?

>>14520158

>I'm a retard because the game is badly made

the game is made fine for the time. The fact is that if you're not going to invest time into it you have no reason to bitch. It's like bitching La Mulana is to hard as a puzzle game. God forbid you die often in a game and not git gud.

>What?

Tell me that the next time you beat a challenging area in the game with comparatively less difficulty. On hard mode you can't say that none of the buffs don't matter since they obviously do.

>Or break the game's challenge

More like go into a situation with enough resources to not die. Buffs are often on timers so you need to use them appropriately and with thought. And again you're not one to talk when you consider how broken 3 is once you get the Dart Gun, Plasma gun, Tesla Cannon or half the level up perks.

>Do you know what a video game is?

Do you know what an RPG is? The games story and world are integral to them. Sorry if this is new info to your 18 year old brain.

>It really doesn't.

For somebody who's saying I don't have an argument you're not doing much to defend your point. I explained it as well as I could, if you don't want to provide a counterpoint as to why a society ran on less focus for humanitarian aid might benefit in an apocalyptic wasteland then feel free.

>That's aesthetic level design and world building more than actual gameplay level design which is where NV sucks.

Half of the towns in 3 legitimately don't make any sense when you look at them on a more pragmatic level where as in NV you can obviously figure out how either through trade routes or as military hotspots. If you're going to describe how NV fails to have reliable design then use examples. Because as far as I can tell almost every area has a focus or some kind of context where there's an explained story or lore behind it. And even if there isn't there's still a fun encounter like a super giant larva queen with insanely high HP. In 3 there's maybe a dozen cave systems with nothing but a particular enemy creature and maybe a bobble head if you're lucky.

>And the voice actors were worse Felicia Day was in it

And? As long as they deliver the lines well enough and the writing holds up it doesn't much matter. And I would love to hear you defend Fallout 3's writing.

>Ditto for NV but orange

Which made sense it being a dessert. And the orange filter was much less intense if you actually look at it. Green for DC? Wanna explain that?

>Play it and look.

I have. The only redeeming quality was Prime which got old by Broken Steel and 3dog who got tiresome after you were in the broken steel segment. The DLC was also complete garbage compared to NV with the exception of some segments of the Pitt.

>Suspension of disbelief.

Not an argument when you consider NV needs much less suspension of disbelief

>More still isn't better.

It is when you can't provide an argument against such a concept.

>It's believable enough for me and actually fun to explore.

Again not an argument. Put examples behind your argument and maybe you can actually provide context. I mean I get it if you don't actually think the game is good and you just play it as a guilty pleasure. But objectively F3 is a hot pile of garbage in a dumpster fire.

>>14520198

>but to say that RPG gameplay revolves around a story is retarded.

Maybe because it does. Otherwise why have stats that involve you in a universe?

>Compared to NV? That's laughable.

Post examples otherwise. NV has more choices and decisions or end states in each quest than 3 by a large margin and you know it.

>easier to navigate due to less lazily put toghether =/= linear

The broken Steel airgrounds come to mind when you post than and I laugh at how retarded you are.

>It has nothing to do with atmosphere though

How does less factions not play into atmosphere?

>Wrong because you can learn the history of every town.

And they don't make sense. The republic of Dave has a Brahmin trade support but that doesn't explain the amounts of water or goods they go through and what they use to pay for the goods. Tenpenny Tower has the same problem. A bunch of rich assholes but half of them don't have any reasoning as to what makes them rich.

>The ambient background noise and soundtrack are better than NV's.

>ambient background noise

Post examples. I remember very little as far as ambiance goes that impressed me with 3 as apposed to NV. Especially since half of those noises were recycled into NV. And the music is of a different taste. It also plays more into the theme which is always a plus where as 3's theme was just old time tunes you might find anywhere. If anything the Enclave radio made more sense than any other sound track in the game.

>It's because the bomb worshipers who helped to build the town wanted to live near the bomb dumbass.

And when you simply disable it after being in town for 12 seconds and talking to the sheriff? Boy really thought that one out didn't you?

>There are landmarks in 3 too.

Like I said they were often just places that raiders ran or a devs first day making objects with re-used models like the car fort.

>Because Mr House protected Mojave from the nuclear missiles while DC didn't stand a chance since they must be the first to be bombed

That still doesn't explain how the settlments actually exist and how under explored they are as settlements. In NV almost every place had more than 7 or so NPC's. In 3 there's often less than 5 or so that act as if their society is somehow capable of lasting for more than a few weeks.

>>14520254

Oh, that's another thing, you always have to shoot them in the head. Another poorly balanced thing in STALKER is that your enemies can take 2 full mags to the chest, but will drop with a single headshot. That's just the way the game is. It actually becomes a bit more fun because aiming for the head as a neccesity is more difficult than other games where you aim for the torso and may get a lucky headshot bonus in there. It should be easier, since the enemies in stalker are a bit more static, especially near their cover.

>>14520254

stalker has some broken mechanic that nerfs automatic firing because slav devs

>>14520282

>nothing in NV compares to The Pitt and its story

I would argue the DLC in NV is up there. The Pitt happens to have the first example of a well presented morale dilemma which unfortunately isn't presented well at all and only offers 2 options where as NV may offer 3-5.

>>14520506

Hey,i live in that shithole

It's nicer in fallout then in reality

>>14520571

>It's nicer in fallout then in reality

isn't it going downhill rapidly though or are those steel tarrifs going to help? i don't follow it too closely because I'm not in america

>>14520564

the NV DLC is arguably better written but the gameplay suffers from being overly linear/railroaded until the ending sequences

>>14520612

I mostly meant that it's a shithole in regards to all the niggers around,i'd gladly take the mutants over them.

>>14520612

>but the gameplay suffers from being overly linear/railroaded until the ending sequences

Compared to 3's? Shit the pitt is essentially the same idea but with a big collectathon minigame on the side.

>>14520616

oh well good luck anon you can always move back to europe if it goes wrong. land here is really cheap right now because all the cucked males are leaving but there is a bit of a gypsy problem

>>14520621

i felt like i had more influence over what i did and in what order in The Pitt part of NV's DLC's problem is not just that it's linear but it's gated so you end up doing it in the same order usually

>>14520641

I just don't like the way you're introduced to the actual morale dilemma which makes it good in the final 5% of the DLC though. Up to that point it's pretty obvious which side you're on. You could call that a clever rug pull moment but since it's barely explored to any depth it just feels like wasted potential of being in a mediator position for a good portion of it instead. In fact a good idea would have been to observe the players level or fame/infamy to decide where you were put in the DLC. Unfortunately all these ideas are better than what we got and what we got really only scratches the surface whereas moments in NV I feel get a bit more in depth and actually make sense on a grander level.

Fallout 3 gets the win due to it's lack of Mormons alone.

>>14520250

>STALKER's gunplay is shit due to the bullet sponges, lazy accuracy spread mechanics, and the stiffness of recoil and gun handling animations. It's about as realistic as Half Life. The only thing realistic about STALKER's gunplay is the projectile system and sound effects.

Don't forget how it gated guns into hard RPG-unlock tiers despite trying to be a realistic fps. Completely schizophrenic design I'd only expect from drunken slavs.

>>14520237

I'd also get a mod that lets you play after the story ends unless those already cover it.

>>14519962

>>14520237

Also consider the Willow Follower mod.

Listen, i know, it seems like waifu-bait, bottom of the barrel shit.

But this follower adds a lot of things, and has good dialogue (as in funny and interesting) and reacts to a lot of vanilla quests.

Why is this thread full of shit bait, newfags, and other undesirables? Did we get another wave of cuckchan refugees.

>>14520250

>casual faggot didn't play on Master

>casual faggot can't land headshots

Gunplay definitely needed retooling though.

>>14520872

>hard rpg unlock tiers

So you've never played it and you're lying. Kill yourself retard.

>>14521278

I found the brahmin follower mod to be a nice addition too. It's based on cut content that was going to be in the game, it is a follower for pack rats or traders (the brahmin can't attack, but has a massive carry limit)

>>14508812

ah fuck not you guys too. Im sick of 4chink and its nvfags on /v/. YOUR GAME SUCKS DICK GO BACK TO YOUR GENERAL

>>14521986

>New Vegas discussion on 8/v/ is new

You're trying to hard to fit in and outright lying to do so.

>>14521986

I don't even like NV and I can spot this shit is bait.

>>14522026

>The entire NV main quest is better than The Pitt, as is Old World Blues and Dead Money. Caesar alone is a better written and more interesting character than anybody who shows up in FO3 or any FO3 DLC.

Dead Money is fucking boring.

>>14524667

I am sorry that you are bad at video games

>>14524726

>opinions I don't like mean anon is bad at video games

Fuck off.

>>14524775

Fuck off Bethesdrone.

>>14521977

>casual faggot didn't play on Master

It's been proven this has no effect on the joke that is gunplay in stalker even I know that.

>>14524726

>>14524965

>>14522026

Bethesda's stories fucking suck, and Dead Money is shit. You don't have to praise garbage just because it's an alternative to other garbage.

>>14524995

I'm not praising shit about Bethesda games.

>>14525007

You're defending the fucking snorefest that is Dead Money, is what I'm saying. You're calling people Bethesda drones for not like a terrible expansion Obsidian made.

>>14525016

Please point to the post where I defended Dead Money.

>You're calling people Bethesda drones for not like a terrible expansion Obsidian made.

I'm calling them Bethesda drones for defending fallout 3 and 4 you shill.

>>14524965

You know I do think we should give Bethesda a little more appreciation. Without them, nobody would even have heard of Fallout these days. Thanks to their help the series is still around.

>>14516680

>Hi I'm from cuckchan

You're not welcome here. Now get the fuck out.

>>14525077

not an argument

>>14516297

No, more like it was okay until you new faggot fags start posting the same shit over and over again shitting up /v/. Someone eventually stop taking your shit and shove it back, now comes the irony post like yours.

>>14520260

>NV doesn't have either of these?

finding the Xuanlong rifle and T51b in 3:

>unmarked quests and exploration heavy quests with open choices

finding the LMG and Enclave armor in NV:

>put them in an obscure place and place deathclaws all around them randomly

>>14520261

>Otherwise why have stats that involve you in a universe?

Because stats are a story that the player write by themselves. That's the essence of RPG, we write our own story, good dungeon masters aren't the strict ones.

>NV has more choices and decisions or end states in each quest than 3 by a large margin and you know it.

I thought we were talking about level design. Anyway, You Gotta Shoot Them in the Heads pretty much had more open choices than any NV quest I know.

>The broken Steel airgrounds

That's just a DLC area. NV had even worse DLC's.

>How does less factions not play into atmosphere?

No, I'm saying that factions don't really have much to do with audio visual atmosphere, the meta-emotional tone of the story.

>they don't make sense

Dave is probably just your typical scavenger and Tenpenny has a bunch of mercs and a self sustaining facility that needs to be looked after. Maybe the rich cunts work inside that building. We're only allowed to see the penthouse area anyway. Not everything needs to be explained.

>Post examples.

Just watch the intro trailer, it pretty much sets the tone for the whole game. It's more bleak than NV's cheesy 50's western theme, in my opinion it gives a thicker emotional tone.

>And when you simply disable it after being in town for 12 seconds and talking to the sheriff?

You're born as a vault dweller who has been taught how to work on nuclear machinery, unlike the wastelanders.

>Like I said they were often just places that raiders ran or a devs first day making objects with re-used models like the car fort.

It's DC, not Vegas. Of course Vegas has a lot more interesting landmarks, it's a tourist's destination while DC is more of a metro area.

>In 3 there's often less than 5 or so that act as if their society is somehow capable of lasting for more than a few weeks.

They've only been there for a while, maybe most of them have only been there for only a decade. Most of the people who have settled there for a long time are there for a purpose, for example scientists and crazy doomsday worshipers, instead of people who are just trying to live. In fact, Mojave has been populated for 200 years, yet it still looks like trash.

>>14525451

>he's actually trying to defend fallout 3

>>14525501

But I like NV and 3 somewhat equally. I just recognize and acknowledge the strengths and flaws of each game.

>>14522026

Why do you even care about characters other than your own smh.

>>14525063

This really is a cuckchan thread.

>>14525451

>finding the LMG

What, you can get that in multiple places.

>Enclave armor in NV

Encourages you to wander about and explore. Shit don't come easy son.

>>14525676

>Encourages you to wander about and explore

On the far corner of the game that you thought would have invisible walls since it looks the same as every other corner in the game with zero level design? On top of that, the dev just scattered deathclaws randomly on the cliff and put the armor on a random dead soldier without any background whose body can clip through the ground anytime and fall into the abyss. It's really anticlimatic, there's literally no thought and effort put into this. The armor looks like shit anyway.

>Shit don't come easy son.

You Gotta Shoot Them in the Head is actually a really underrated quest. If you follow Mr Crowley's instructions, he would steal the armor and you would get nothing. You'd also have to find the information about the place anyhow, and even then you wouldn't know what you would find. The armor is buried deep within a highly guarded high tech facility. There's a great buildup on top of a quest that can be resolved in multiple ways. Finding the endgame armor and guns in NV is very lame compared to this.

>>14525601

>everything I don't like is cuckchan

Grow a pair.

>>14526470

>defending Fallout 3

>hating New Vegas

>>>/cuckchan/

>>14519962

I played over 600 hours mod free. Once started a replay the day after finishing it.

>>14529026

I deliberately chose incompatible traits and perks in NV so i could do a forced level 1 run once.

>>14519852

You've really gotta give a source

>>14531901

Legion is the only way to go.

>>14533199

It's pretty impressive really. When we were having NV threads you would get the occasional person who wanted to discuss the better areas of F3 (there are some I checked) but it's insane to think that people are incapable of admitting that the game was fucking garbage. It's like the Breath of the Wild or Mario Odyssey threads.

>>14533207

Just become familiar with the overall mods available and give each one some of your time based on your interest and size/scope of the mod. After about a week you'll find what suits you perfectly. You can also ask for opinions but only a few mods are maybe actually required for just about everybody and the rest comes up to preference.

>>14533216

Oh I usually know what I am going for, I use to play with Project Nevada for the longest time. After I realized it conflicted with a bunch of mods and didn't really add a whole lot (I always favor vanilla-ish playthroughs) I stopped using it. I just want the link so I can set up mod organizer properly and optimize my game a bit better.

Oh, and save the links for future references and back em up

>>14533241

Most people find out later into their modding habits that overhauls are fucking garbage 9/10 because of how much unnecessary shit they overwrite. Basically keep looking for what you want and try them out on a "test" playthrough so you know what you want when you officially do a proper playthough so you know what you can make work. Also what I do is run my ESP's through the construction set so I can inspect every change element to see what might be different. A lot of mods will edit a cell or something (which can occasionally break a quest or something) and thanks to the CS you can easily see what changes are made in an ESP file and remove them if need be.

>>14533266

The construction set? Care to clarify? And not sure if I am thinking the same program for "CS", mind clarifying on that to?

>>14533287

Yes the construction set. It will probably be the extended version but I'm not to familiar with NV modding. Either way if you open just about any esp in it you will get a very clear indications of what the esp changes or adds in the game so you will know where conflicts arise. Also as always keep an eye on your load order.

>>14509408

I agree. Some of the mission and faction concepts are superb, but the overall execution is shit-tier. FO:NV feels more like USS Darkstar or They Hunger HL1 mod than an actual full game.

Project Nevada adds running. It's good. The implant system seems fine at first sight, but due to the new implant limitations and because I'm a powergaming faggot, I've dropped PN.

Also Dala best girl.

Found it

http://wiki.step-project.com/User:EssArrBee/FalloutNewVegas

>>14533415

There needs to be a /v/ version of this.

>>14533199

It's always been my opinion.

>>14516680

>. I think it's even a downgrade from FO3 in some ways, such as having not much place to take cover or flank enemies.

It's not a shooting game and every aspect of the shooting mechanics wise was improved. you are literally splitting hairs to try and shit on vegas or defend FO3 either way your opinion is shit and you should feel shit.

Daily reminder MisterCaption's autism caught up to him and had his channel nuked.

There's one guy mirroring his videos.

>>14536924

Who?

>>14536924

>had his channel nuked.

Why?

>>14537910

Because Todd asked. Don't you know? He's sniffing around here.

Actually some fallout 4 and skyrim fan flagged all his videos, and then some "youtube hero" reported him.

>>14537932

That's just fucking sad. What the fuck man.

>>14537932

Got sauce on that?

>>14539842

>that first one

impregnated monsters is my fetish.

>>14539848

Would you start a family with cazador-chan, anon?

>>14539856

Yes.

>>14539885

With how much food and survival skill i have,i can easily support them for years to come.

>>14509401

He didn't compare them though…

>>14536138

NV is shit anon deal with it.

>>14537916

>Consider playing NV again

>Remember I'm on loonix with no option to go back

Fuck fiddling with wine, I should just find myself a second-hand toaster. Or just emulate Wasteland

>>14547500

New Vegas work out of the box with Wine now, or get Wine with Gallium 9 just in case

>>14520059

STALKER is a shitty game modded or not. Can't polish a turd.

>>14516400

>the foundation of the game im shilling is broken to hell, but i expect you to gloss over that fact to suit my narrative

retard

>>14551811

Was I wrong in what I said?

>>14552052

>Any update on the f4 mod?

No.

>>14556384

If it works people buy it, there's no reason to change it.

>>14552052

F4 has the same engine as Morrowind

>>14534683

There really should be, not the cuckchan outdated /vg/ version I've seen people share.

>>14509286

>being this edgy

>>14509673

>I'd prefer if it was just you as a random nobody wandering the wasteland for no predetermined reason, stumbling upon various NPC's and small non-interconnected scenarios, probably add things like faction relationship and stuff.

They already made that game, it's called Fallout: New Vegas, you dumb nigger-faggot.

>>14559723

Take drugs, craft better ammo, and leave the main quest to the very, very last on your next playthrough.

>I was actually trying to align somewhat with Caesar's Legion against the NCR, whom I couldn't stand, and somehow got forced into taking sides the other way around

Anon what did you do to achieve this?

>>14526705

All Fallout DLC is trash. Only redeeming part of the fallout games is killing hookers in NV.

>>14559773

I did a couple quests for the legion and famed up with speech checks, but I guess I lost it just for doing quests for House which at the time didn't even pit me directly against the legion. Going into Hoover Dam I was a Merciful Thug with Caesar and Vilified by NCR, and still got stuck with NCR. I don't know what happened anon, I went pretty deep into fuck it mode near the end.

>>14559723

use console commands to tp out of it or give yourself something to make yourself a non-cripple, otherwise you're fucked

>>14541631

> laid inside a much bigger creature for it to devour once it hatches.

As long as it's put inside a monstrosity like a Boatfly and not something cute like a dog I guess that's okay.

I fucking hate wasps, man. They need to go extinct.

>>14519757

Fallout 3 is not a fun game, it a series of slow-motion clips of your ugly ass character blowing bodyparts off of things, with some interspersed shitty writing pretending to be RPG elements.

this thread is a perfect example of why /v/, and 8ch in general, is dying. holy fuck, what a shithole we've turned into.

>>14567080

Surely you would not mind being a little more explicit.

>>14567080

/v/ isn't dying just because people have opinions you don't agree with.

>>14567080

>we

Speak for yourself.

>>14509286

Thread was concluded here. Fallout is a shit series full of shit games.

videogames was never good

>>14569031

nah

>>14568927

>his wife's children

I can't say I like your implication that they're not his.

>>14552052

They were shut down by Bethesda for copyright; they stopped working on F4NV a couple weeks ago now.

>>14547557

Recommended Energy Weapons build? Currently doing one that is crit focused and suggestions would be appreciated. Currently level 11 playing Tale of Two Wastelands and holy fuck is the lack of energy weapon perks disturbing, same with ammo. Planning to get:

>Vigilant Recycler

>Chemist (go good if i decide to dedicate heavy armor, but my SPECIAL isnt optimized for a tank so wont benefit as much)

>Better Criticals

>Meltdown (doubled edged sword but fun, best energy weapon perk)

>Laser Commander

Any other suggestions?

>Finesse

>Educated

>Lady Killer

>Living Anatomy

>Scrounger

Chose Scrounger because like I said before, lack of ammo (unless you wanna spend considerable amount of caps buying ammo that quickly disappears). My three main skills are Energy Weapons, Medicine, and Speech. Secondary focus on science (although been putting more points into it because the need for certain perks).

What I plan to get:

>>14564805

Keep posting your art, it's great

Wasps do horrible things, they lay eggs in figs, they put parasites in cute insects like bees, they kill spiders which fucks with the local ecosystem and makes annoying insects like flies more common, they make nests in annoying places which requires you to call an exterminator. Wasps are shit.

>>14573099

If they're afraid of being alone they shouldn't try to kill everything they see.

>>14573137

I think we didn't need to go full tumblr* when a wild drawfag appear. Just let him do his work and have his fun while we save very pics he drops here.

*full autism over a person like making demands, ass-kissing or harassing the fuck out of an adored person Example: see /leftypol/ case with the commie-cat artist

>>14573243

Long story short: They found out her identity and some of them went very obsessed with her. They literally started to harass and stalk her like a fucking psycho creep. At the end they fucked her up so bad she just quitted communism and went anarchist or something hipster shit like that. I mostly know about this story by their venting and griefing threads where they tried to found out what went wrong and who could replace her since they had a fucking obsessive boner for the cat girl.

>>14573168

Just toning down the poison would be a nice start.

>>14573265

She also got banned from some commie places on reddit because she posted on ebil 8chan.

>>14518667

There were no invisible walls in 3, at least not anywhere you were ever likely to run into them unlike the ones in NV.

>>14573420

Fuck you, you lying faggot. You didn't even play 3, downtown was crammed full of invisible walls so you were forced to travel through the metro tunnels.

Nigger.

>>14573273

>KSS KSS KSS KSS KSS KSS KSS KSS KSS

>>14573425

Suck my dick retard, I've played 3 and NV dozens of times. Every playthrough in NV I run smack dab into an invisible wall in an area I should clearly be able to pass through because Obsidian are autistic tards that didn't want me traversing slight inclines.

I never run into invisible walls in 3. Apart from the DC ruins, there are no invisible walls and if you're not retarded you're unlike to ever run into one.

>>14573451

I like stucked between invisible walks like 3 or 4 times in that piece of trash… even worse it wasn't because i tried to climb a mountain or get into a rumble where i shouldn't be go, but because i lost in the rad sea (or what the fuck was that place named outside the map).

>>14573485

Where are we going to shitpost on if this site has no future? I've looked at halfchan's archives lately and it isn't really appetizing; even if it was, I've lost the want for fast-action shitposting anyway.

>>14572869

>lay eggs in figs

They also pollinate figs by doing this. No fig wasps, no figs.

>>14573560

>>14573485

Imageboards are cyclical. People started leaving after Trump's inauguration. Things won't rev up to full speed for at least two more years.

>>14573485

>banning people who don't post strictly vidya webms

I remember a guy setting a record for most posts because of that, guess he got the last laugh then

>>14573910

>no figs

That's a goddamn dealbreaker right there. Fuck killing wasps.

Any recommended mod lists? Reinstalling for the tenth time and need a nice quick and easy set to install.

>>14573137

There is no obligation to give drawfags attention. Besides if getting many (You)s were the goal all one would have to do is go back to halfchan or tumblr with their consequent traffic.