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80d296 No.14506844

>2 creeps spawn at RANDOM lanes every turn

>some cards have been confirmed for having non-manipulable RANDOM elements

>cards will automatically attack the one in front of it, but if there are two cards in front of it, the target is chosen RANDOMLY

Isn't that quite a lot of RNG for a game that claims to aim for the hardcore card game audience? Consider that the creep spawning isn't like a creature's continuous effect, it's a persistent mechanic that happens every turn in every game and CANNOT be manipulated. Not even Hearthstone has such RNG-heavy mechanic like this. It's even worse considering they are going for a MTG-like business model but even worse. There's no trading and Valve will take 15% of every card you sell. What do you think?

>inb4 B-But card draw is random too!

Let's ignore that there are card effects that good TCG's have cards that allow you to search for cards, look at the top cards, or change the order of some cards in your library and say sure, it's 100% random. But does that justify adding even more random mechanics on top of it?

11f4ef No.14506886

>MTG-like

Too bad that game was wonderful and has good depth, but then got killed by power creep, pozzed developers for the last decade, and secondary market jewing


9ec3f1 No.14507232

OP, you're saying that you plan to play this and are upset by their decision to add randomness? I think you get whatever you deserve when you choose to play a DotA virtual card game. I don't care if they add bad mechanics (which they almost certainly will) because I won't be wasting my time with it.


9b8101 No.14509533

>>14506886

>but then got killed by power creep, pozzed developers for the last decade, and secondary market jewing

What card game doesn't suffer from power creep?


11f4ef No.14509543

>>14509533

The power creep isn't so bad because it comes and goes (Alpha, Urza's, Mirrodin, etc). The problem is that when coupled with the secondary market, it becomes very difficult to keep up with the physical game, and you're better off to just playing Cockatrice or TTS instead of the paper game


00140d No.14509561

>>14509543

That only matters if you're going competitive, there is a fan original Commander format which allows for cards that isn't tournament worthy a chance to shine there is even official formats based on Commander. On top of that there is some other less popular fan formats which are also alright to play for casual games.

The bigger problem with the game from OP's image is that, if I'm remembering this correctly, they violated one of the number one rules of introducing power creep. Never make every single card the player's collected useless. It might have been another card game but I remember that when a brand spanking new host of cards was introduced once they came with abilities that basically said "I Win" when used against old cards, then the game's audience crashed hard for violating this simple rule.


11f4ef No.14509570

>>14509561

Commander/EDH is still a shitshow, because even if you play with others, there's always one guy that takes it too seriously and drops $30 cards for his whole meme deck and does a combo kill on Turn 5 or something, or has a 16/16 double striking Uril that kills people in one shot. Not fun.


a99d77 No.14514462

>>14509533

There are some that just give you all the cards from the start.


d4fd57 No.14514476

>>14509533

Pokemon? Game was broken as fuck at the start with multiple ways to exploit the game to death and the most effective strategy was to ignore half the mechanics and make a deck focused on pounding your opponent to death in the first few turns before the game even starts. Now (I'm) it's completely playable.


6a4874 No.14514613

>>14506844

>What do you think?

I think you care too much about a shitty card game that most people will reject once it launches. The only way they could possibly draw more people to it would be to bribe Dota 2 players with cosmetics for playing the game, and that would probably just lead to people playing for their free shit and leaving.


a99d77 No.14521566

>>14514613

Thanks for opening the thread and posting, great contribution!


a99d77 No.14521568

>>14509533

MTG has been surprisingly consistent actually.


b8d653 No.14521577

HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.

>>14506844

The fake parody one was much better than this fucking clone, and come on Valve, always late to the party but there's always shekels to be made.


10e7de No.14521645

>>"Hooray! Valve's going to start shipping games again."

>>its a fucking card game

Valve is dead


13daaa No.14521686

File: c688fb996a1c4bc⋯.gif (436.55 KB, 255x161, 255:161, 1432300323600.gif)

>>14506844

>Game is loaded with RNG on release

What, in Dota? Say it ain't so.


045663 No.14521768

>what are creeps

>what are lanes

>what are cards

>how is this hardcore?

>how are cards vidya?


c5a69c No.14522691

>>14521645

It's card dota in fact.


06d4e3 No.14522704

File: 93bd5a2d95f3d4c⋯.jpeg (58.84 KB, 715x720, 143:144, Animu girl excite.jpeg)

>there are going to be official Artifact threads on /v/


b6f9b7 No.14522712

>(((valve)))

>shartifact

>ccg

>mobileshit

just how many words for garbage are there?


2b6ad7 No.14522722

File: 4f6fb03faeb0d8d⋯.jpg (94.34 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, mpv-shot0008.jpg)

>playing shit rng card game

>angry that there is rng


2df228 No.14522724

File: b8146a931259c90⋯.png (899.35 KB, 1152x648, 16:9, everyoneleaves.png)

>>14522704

>there are going to be official Artifact threads on /v/


675a9a No.14523029

>>14506844

You can see how the rng ends up, plan and react accordingly nigger. Mechanics such as these are not even remotely comparable to the create shitfest that is HS.


c5a69c No.14524708


68f37c No.14525107

>>14521768

Who are you quoting?

>>14522724

Dear god I hope not.


c5a69c No.14526447

>>14522712

I never imagined that Valve actually making a video game would be worse than them not doing it.


af779a No.14526464

File: 9208f98236fdc8c⋯.png (283.23 KB, 794x551, 794:551, DqN4CWl.png)


a282e6 No.14531579

>>14525107

>Who are you quoting?

>>>/a/


c5a69c No.14534569

>>14531579

He said, quoting someone.




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