364475 No.14505479
CLOUD GAMING IS THE FUTURE
https://web.archive.org/web/20180317035205/http://fortune.com/2018/03/16/microsoft-netflix-for-video-games/
https://archive.fo/2R1xQ
>Microsoft has a plan for getting 2 billion gamers around the world to use its service.
>In an interview with The Verge, a Microsoft Xbox team member said that the company is working on a service that would function in much the same way as a Netflix for video games. The service would offer users access to games from a variety of developers, including Microsoft, and stream those titles to the player’s device of choice, according to the interview.
>“We’re looking at ways to make that content available to anyone no matter what device they’re on,” Microsoft gaming cloud division chief Kareem Choudhry said in the interview. He told the tech news site that there will eventually be “2 billion gamers in the world” and Microsoft’s goal “is to reach every one of them.”
>Of course, it could prove difficult. The video game industry has long been a siloed market where games available on one console cannot be played elsewhere. Players, then, are forced to choose which console to play a game on. And those who want to play exclusive titles available only on specific hardware will need to buy each console to have access to any and all games.
>The cloud, however, presents a new opportunity. By storing games in the cloud, developers could technically stream their content to PCs, mobile devices, and consoles. And Microsoft, which operates its Azure cloud service, among several others, believes it can deliver the platform on which games are delivered.
>Whether Nintendo and Sony will play ball, though, is unknown. Nintendo has only recently started delivering games to platforms beyond its own consoles, and in those cases, it’s only doing so on iPhones and Android devices. Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo have never expressed interest in bringing their exclusive games to other consoles.
>Still, a streaming game service could be successful without Nintendo and Sony’s help. The majority of games, after all, are developed by third-party developers. Adding Microsoft’s games to the lineup could ensure a relatively well-rounded lineup of titles.
>According to the report, Choudhry balked at providing a timeline for a possible game-streaming launch. But he did say that Microsoft is focused on the service and is “spending a lot of time thinking about that space.”
6cb3aa No.14505483
>>14505479
Didn't $ony make something like this?
I remember something about being able to play games that are being streamed to your PC while they are being played at a remote console.
…Or something like this.
Mentioning Netflix like that is such a cheap attention grab tactic, pathetic.
6e1900 No.14505485
So OnLive but on steroids?
Let them do it. I want to watch them die a really stupid death.
33a8d4 No.14505486
>Netflix for gaming
You mean like OnLive?
c49171 No.14505494
>consoles sell like shit
>"c-consoles are the past, dear investors"
My fucking sides.
>>14505483
There was something like this, but you needed really good internet. I tried it once and it didn't even boot the game.
7dfdd7 No.14505496
>>14505486
This.
Owner should've sold the company when it was estimated to be worth billions.
fb101a No.14505499
>>14505479
> stream those titles to the player’s device of choice
That didn't work the last time, and I can't see it working this time. Internet still has enough delay to be noticeable, and not everyone even has great internet. Like would google fiber even be good enough for this kind of thing?
6e1900 No.14505502
>>14505496
http://onlive.com/
>Sony has acquired important parts of OnLive. Due to the sale, all OnLive services were discontinued as of April 30, 2015.
>As the first-ever game streaming service of its kind, everyone who has ever played a game using OnLive has contributed to the technology and its evolution in some way. We’re immensely proud of what’s been achieved and extend our heartfelt gratitude to you for being a part of the OnLive Game Service.
>Thank you from all of us at –
OL2, Inc. (aka, OnLive)
It sounds like they did just that. I wonder how Sony feels when Microsoft is muscling in on their market.
edba16 No.14505503
>>14505494
Who is that demon semen?
c49171 No.14505505
>>14505503
Uzaki Hana, drawn by mushi024.
7dfdd7 No.14505506
>>14505502
Yeah. sold it for 4.8 million, and 18 million in debt.
Way before then estimated worth of OnLive was worth billions.
53d43a No.14505516
>>14505479
Nobody gave a shit about Onlive, nobody gave a shit about Playstation Now, and nobody is going to give a shit about this.
c09e46 No.14505518
but hasn't that existed for like 14 years with steam
d6b5d6 No.14505521
>>14505479
Is xbox one selling like shit the reason why switch was so successful? I think might have more exclusives than Xbox one Less than two years. I’m worrying Sony will fuck PS5 by focusing on VR than regular exclusive games.
31431d No.14505525
>>14505506
But it's this fucking estimation shit that is ruining the entire market place and sooner or later pops another massive bubble.
>We estimate Product X to be worth gazillion bajillion
>actual net worth $3.50
fb101a No.14505526
>>14505521
No, the reason the switch did well was because it had a Zelda game with its launch. Also this thread is about microsoft
>>14505525
Welcome to the world of speculation. Bubbles are the primary mechanic of the game.
d0d9d2 No.14505535
>>14505521
>F-fucking Nintoddlers, the only reason you stood a chance was because Microsoft went easy on you
>Xbox is responsible for the Switch's success!
Even the shills are giving up on the Xbox.
c49171 No.14505572
>>14505521
I think it's the opposite. PS4 and the switch being successful caused Xbox to not sell as well.
You have PS4, the Bloodborne machine, the only console with the weeb games. Not only it has the popular games everyone likes, it also include these niches no one else has, so you have a big reason to buy a PS4.
The switch was also the first non-retarded nintendo console in a while. You have all these interesting gimmicks, the nintendo games everyone has been wanting to play on a decent console for a while, plus it's portable. You have the nintendo fanbase and the portable niche all in one console.
Xbox is just xbox. You have the popular games, most of which are on PS4/PC, and the few exclusives only people who bought a 360 care about.
You never bought a console before? You have the portable nintendo switch, or the standard console + weeb games + sony stuff PS4. Xbox doesn't have a redeeming feature to call in new consumers, whereas the others did. I believe that's why PS4 and switch sales went up that much while Xbox sales pretty much stayed the same as the 360.
b97b5c No.14505581
Oh cool, this nonsense again.
0c3ced No.14505590
>publishers push games to be larger and larger
>reach a point where consumers just can't download 500GB per game
>they then offer instant cloud gaming(tm) where you can play the game instantly with no download hassle!
>just an extra $19.99 a month!
00cb4f No.14505593
Microsoft need games in order to start selling them as a Netflix service.
Why would someone pay a monthly fee just to play call of duty and FIFA?
534437 No.14505635
>>14505479
Existing Games are very sensitive to high latency, Basically any FPS or 3rd POV, If you have panning tied to your mouse/pad high latency is insufferable . But. But. If you remove this connection and any mechanics requiring low latency (VR would be damned) it can work.
Final Fantasy type of games are good candidates. Just make POV not tied to direct controls and make characters controls RTS style but with high latency like in Dota. Such game you could play locally or via streaming with no difference in perception.
13a269 No.14505664
>>14505479
>We can provide ALL the games!
>But we would need companies like Sony and Nintendo to cooperate and make their games available to us
So, really not any different than if they were to let you sell them on your Xboner now, but it would be on some retarded cloud service you'd pay a monthly sub for? Boy that sure sounds like something that won't crash and burn right out the gate.
Why do they insist on these retarded gimmick projects that devour millions of dollars instead of just making good games, or God forbid, consoles worth a damn? Are investors really so easily fooled into giving companies like M$ money for stupid ideas like this?
82b3a5 No.14505669
>>14505479
>getting 2 billion gamers around the world
good luck with that
<Xbone is a dead brand with piuracy being the only factor that helped the 360 get an edge over the PS3, dirtpoor spics and nogs would choose the inferior console due to cheaper pirate games being available, and the bloated sales numbers baited in developers to M$'s side
>a service that would function in much the same way as a Netflix
<i'm raising my skeptical eyebrown on this, streaming video is one thing, but streaming textures, colision and all the interactive stuff that makes a vidya may requyired the kind of broad band that only the super rich have
>We’re looking at ways to make that content available to anyone no matter what device they’re on
<translation: we're making windows 10 multiplataform so game streaming can go through us no matter the console
>The video game industry has long been a siloed market where games available on one console cannot be played elsewhere
<i wonder why M$ would imply that competition between companies based on their library of exclussive software is a bad thing?
>The cloud, however, presents a new opportunity…
<… to nickel and dime our consummers by renting them a service instead of selling them a product
>Whether Nintendo and Sony will play ball…
<expecting 2 giant nip companies who can't get along with each other to get along with a filthy gaijin company… wew
>a streaming game service could be successful without Nintendo and Sony’s help
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>The majority of games, after all, are developed by third-party developers
<who will waste neither time nor money porting their shit to a plataform that won't guaranty them some quick shekkels in return, meaning M$ will have to brive devs into their side and even in that they'll have fierce competition from nips
>But he did say that Microsoft is focused on the service
<translation: we're not gonna bother building up a decent game line up until we have the refine the method of nickeling and diming through streaming services
just pull the trigger alrready
Xbone is dead and no amount of phoenix down will bring it back
82b3a5 No.14505690
>>14505521
The Swich is dominating right now cus is the cheaper of the 3 and it actually had like 4 or 5 exclussive games people were intrested in at launch
Look at $ony, what is there to play on PS4?
>Horizon Zero Awards
>The Last Guardian
>WE WUZ UNCHARTED N' SHEIT
>Infamous 3
everything else has yet to release and is looking like shit acording to trailers
82b3a5 No.14505713
>>14505572
>Xbox sales pretty much stayed the same as the 360
they wish
the 360 sold like suggar flavored cocaine, dirt poor countryes who relly on piracy bloated those sales numbers, but it won't happen again
at least not in my circle
i'm the only $onygger who went for the PS3, i barelly got any games for it cus they're expencive as fuck, but at least i can still playthem, unlike the rest of my frined who ended up with the RRD
d1c0e9 No.14505723
eb7888 No.14505732
>>14505593
not even that, it's always shovelware and indieshit games that are free
f756e2 No.14505740
>>14505479
>the cloud
JUST START MAKING GOOD GAMES YOU STUPID FUCKS, STOP DROWNING MILLIONS IN RETARDED GIMMICKS THAT CAN NEVER SUCCEED WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE ANY FUCKING GAMES, HOLY SHIT HOW ARE YOU SO DENSE?
4ae4ac No.14505757
Consoles are popular because they're CHEAP. Literally anyone from Mexico to Kazakhstan can afford them.
You know what billions of people DON'T have? Fast unlimited low latency internet connections.
Two billion Microsoft? Northern Europe and a few Asian countries. That is your audience.
6b40c4 No.14505758
>>14505521
Good.
Sony is cancer.
As is Microshit and Nintendo.
>>14505635
And still, pay for a product (never a service) and not owning it. It is shit.
>>14505664
Yes.
Investors are literal men-children.
They are easily fooled, and always pay for promises for shinning new things and "cool" new tech instead of well researched products.
>>14505669
All console companies are shit.
>>14505740
Microshit wants to control people. Not to sell games.
They want the 24h spy cam app to be in EVERY device in a house, to collect all the data on people while pushing feminism and other cancers to all people.
That is, was, and always will be, Microshit's goal.
d6b5d6 No.14505763
>>14505690
>>Infamous 3
I forgot infamous gotten light rebooted.
9bef93 No.14505767
>>14505757
But 5G anon, it'll change everything
d6b5d6 No.14505768
>>14505479
If Microsoft was smart. They would focus on backward compatibility. It Xbox one greatest edge right now.
82b3a5 No.14505776
>>14505768
>Backwards compatibility with Xbox
What for? there was jack shit play in the 2 previus Xbones as far as exclussives are concerned, everything else is alrready on PC and even with Backwards compatibility only Mericucks and Yuropoors would would find that appealing, everyone else who bought a 360 did so cus pirated games were cheaper than PS3 Bluerays, and i doubt backwards compatiblity will include pirate games
cfdfcf No.14505777
>>14505757
Doesn't matter how low latency your internet is, it's still too high latency to play most games with onlive style streaming. The laws of physics prevent the information from travelling faster. That's true now and it will be true forever. You could have a quadrillion terabits/second of bandwidth and it will still play like absolute shit.
In oder to serve two billion people simultaneously microsoft would need the equivilent of two billion xboxes in their data centres. Streaming doesn't magically decrease the amount of computing power, it just moves it.
9bef93 No.14505778
>>14505777
To be fair, Parsec does it pretty well.
02afe2 No.14505780
>>14505768
If they had been smart they wouldn't have alienated Windows users by shitting on them at every opportunity, and they wouldn't have killed the XBone in the crib by pretending people were going to buy to watch Netflix on it and waggle like retards in front of a camera.
That's the kind of leadership you get when you put curryniggers and women in charge.
71c632 No.14505783
With the huge amount of people working at MS/Xbox, how come nobody has ever told them that all they need is a strong exclusive lineup? Is it that they don't know how to make good games, try to shoehorn whatever their Pajeet engineers think of or both? Surely with Microsoft's good worker benefits, there has to be someone there that actually cares about video games.
7f1dc2 No.14505788
>>14505776
backwards compatibility for the HUEG
02afe2 No.14505794
>>14505783
People have been quitting MS in droves because of the shit management, constantly changing demands, abysmal corporate culture and the spaghetti code they are stuck working with. Just look at the retarded way they are handling W10 with telemetry, forced updates (even if you disable them), shit performance, bugs, incompatibilities and their entrenched belief this will be the last Windows they'll ever need to release.
MS is not the same monolith it was during the rein of Bill Gates. The only reason they haven't fallen apart is because of Windows and Office, and they better pray nothing comes along to dethrone them.
82b3a5 No.14505796
>>14505783
>Is it that they don't know how to make good games
they're not alone in there, $ony can't stop pushing their "interactive experiences" wich are little more than shitty CGI visual novels with barelly enough gameplay elements to justify the "game" label
Nintendo seems to be the onlyone who still cares about making Games
>>14505788
checked n' heiled
HUEG?
9bef93 No.14505817
>>14505796
Yeah but Sony has third parties to do that for them, Microsoft has no third party backing. Especially in Japan.
fe20af No.14505835
They expect 2 billion to be on this when in all likelyhood Australia has too poor of an internet to run something like that let alone India or Sudan
b87f33 No.14505948
>“We’re looking at ways to make that content available to anyone no matter what device they’re on,”
>"xbone is dead"
Let's hope sony denies their app on ps so the xbox division can finally die.
b5b5b8 No.14505972
>Faggots say cloud gaming is future.
>Streaming games not buying them.
>Its fucking renting nothing new. Did that shit with KoF games from Blockbuster in the 90s.
>Faggot kid thinks renting is a new thing.
>Holy fuck someone gas this kid.
>Microsoft pushing this shit.
>MFW the latest shitty cart based Gameboy is the fastest selling console in the USA.
b87f33 No.14505991
>>14505740
Only liberals and minorities are allowed in sylicon valley
966188 No.14506013
>>14505479
>Microsoft is
And it’s already dead. It won’t last more than a year and a half.
cf4fda No.14506059
>>14505690
>Look at $ony, what is there to play on PS4?
Aside from Bloodborne, the only other PlayStation exclusive (As in, no PC release either) on my wishlist is Shadow of the Beast.
6b40c4 No.14506060
>>14505783
See >>14505758 ("Microshit wants to control people. Not to sell games. They want the 24h spy cam app to be in EVERY device in a house, to collect all the data on people while pushing feminism and other cancers to all people. That is, was, and always will be, Microshit's goal.") and stop being a wishful ignorant.
>>14505991
Reason enough to kill them all at once.
b13029 No.14506064
If they made a new Crimson Skies and Mechassault worth a damn and ported the first 4 Halo games perfectly AMD didn't charge for online I would have bought an Xbox One already. Just make good games Jesus FUCKING Christ.
b5b5b8 No.14506065
>>14506046
That is the problem with Microsoft they think the console market is like PC and everything has to be digital. Console owners buy consoles because they like physical. The few that don't like physical might as well game on their PCs. I mean why the fuck are they playing on consoles?
02afe2 No.14506068
>>14506065
I don't think MS has any fucking idea what is going on on the PC market. These are the stupid fucks that were perfectly positioned to have their own Steam only to shit on their PC costumers in favor of chasing the console market.
113765 No.14506079
>>14505479
>Microsoft Is Working on a Netflix for Video Games
SHEEEEIIIIT
I guess they aren't content with the Xbone failing. The streetshitters that run the place now are hungry for more, even worse failures.
>>14505486
>You mean like OnLive?
Yes, but this time it'll be cool. Like Microsoft.
cf4fda No.14506080
>>14506065
>That is the problem with Microsoft they think the console market is like PC and everything has to be digital.
I'm even backing off on that and planning on buying PC games physically whenever I can (And, if I can't, then I go for the console version). I'm just getting tired of how tyrannical the digital market altogether is becoming.
d33694 No.14506083
Doesn't microsoft already have a cross platform game "netflix" type service?
d33694 No.14506098
>>14506083
Wait nevermind, it wasn't streaming, it was downloads.
2fd0d8 No.14506099
>>14506083
No, they only offer streaming from your XBOX to your W10. They don't really earn anything from you using your own stuff.
d33694 No.14506123
>>14506068
actually they're perfectly aware of the PC market. They're just retarded and think they can get away with trying to lock down the PC environment without violating monopoly and noncompete laws. It certainly doesn't help that and don't quote me on this at some point some lawmaker finally acknowledged the issue of their essential monopoly on home computing and permitted people to use their old libraries to develop alternative operating systems.
0644b1 No.14506129
>>14506123
So, Microsoft want to dethrone the PC market after losing the console market ?
d33694 No.14506142
>>14506129
Honestly I think they're just desperate since literally everyone pirates windows 7/8.1/10 if they aren't using a prebuilt, and the actual usage stats of their hosted store service are abysmal.
53d43a No.14506143
>>14505768
No, if they were smart they would fund exclusives.
80393f No.14506149
THE PHANTOM LIVES ON
LIVES IN IN THE HEARTS OF EXECS
AND BIG OL DUMMIES
DON'T OWN PHYSICAL GAMES
45aa16 No.14506176
>>14506080
>2018
>buying games
WEW
2347f8 No.14506200
cloud gaming a fucking shit. like i want to tie my ability to own and play a game to my internet connection. i already get pissed off having to download shit that i bought off of PSN and then having my ownership of that game tied to some account at sony. fuck the idea of never even getting to own the fucking game. its bullshit, and if you support it, youre bullshit
2347f8 No.14506210
>>14506149
>DON'T OWN PHYSICAL GAMES
this. big gaming conglomorates wet dream right here. they dont even have to actually produce a physical object, so the overhead is nil. and they certainly have some sort of agreement with ISPs, so running the cloud is probably a fraction of what it wouldve cost to put the game to physical copy.
c27def No.14506220
>They are crashing so hard they have to bank on old games and netflix
Well once this fails they can fuck off from gaming forever.
cf4fda No.14506223
>>14506176
<Let collectors destroy history
Yeah, piss off.
d6b5d6 No.14506224
>>14506143
>f they were smart they would fund exclusives.
Gamers want graphics not exclusives.
af50b8 No.14506226
d33694 No.14506251
>>14506223
Incidentally, I'd like to mention attempting to becoming a regulatory force in a market is in fact actually anticapitalism.
7ea745 No.14506276
From the >>>/tech/ thread about this;
>Microsoft’s new gaming cloud division readies for a future beyond Xbox
>The new division is designed to entice developers and game publishers to use Microsoft’s cloud services.
>Ubisoft has been using Microsoft’s Azure cloud services across PC, Xbox, and PS4 with Rainbow Six: Siege recently, and even the mobile game Black Desert uses Azure virtual machines and databases.
>Microsoft wants more and more game developers to use its cloud, especially as games become more connected across devices for their multiplayer experiences.
They're competing with Amazon that recently put out an open source game engine that can only run on AWS and Google with their upcoming cloud gaming service called Yeti for Android.
A game streaming service for consumers probably isn't even in the works considering both their paltry selection of exclusive game IPs they own and the rapidly declining share of the gaming market they have. The technical infeasibility of it is the least of their concerns.
—-
When they say they want 2 billion to use their services for gaming they're talking about the backend hardware in data centers.
As much as people here love to gloat about what a disaster the xbox brand has been to Microsoft it's barely been a drop in the bucket. They could waste tens of billions on it every year for another century and not have anything to worry about.
All they have to do is keep buying up game studios or exclusives to keep the brand alive.
9ffaf5 No.14506291
>>14505518
No, moron. At least with Steam, the data is on your PC.
af50b8 No.14506304
>>14506276
>multiplayer experiences.
into the trash. all modern multiplayer games are shit if you dont count some obscure or strategy games. microjews just want total control over pc gaming nothing new there. too bad they hired incompetent pajeets and changs who cant fucking program for shit. some poor slav from bulgaria can outsmart them.
2fd0d8 No.14506355
>>14506080
>I'm even backing off on that and planning on buying PC games physically whenever I can
Just forget it. That time is over. Just store DRM-free installers on RAID1 external drives.
There are no more manuals.
The content on a DVD is digital. Video games are about the joy of playing them, not collecting plastic boxes.
db8554 No.14506357
>>14505521
>>14505526
>>14505572
>>14505690
>>14505758
Don't you dumb fucking niggers remember how badly Microsoft dropped the ball at E3 2013?
>Always online
>Games won't work unless you're online.
>Can't share game discs with friends, can't play used games on it.
>Kinect is integrated with the system, it always spies on you and records you.
>SPORTS SPORTS SPORTS TV TV TV
>FUCK YOUR GAMES
>$499
>Massive backlash
>"If you don't want to play online, just play your XBox 360"
>CliffyB blames "governments not spending enough on internet infrastructure" or some shit on Twitter when were complaining. Yes, let's put internet as priority over electricity and water.
>Removes always online in response to Sony said no always online and you can share your game discs with your friends and still works with used games for $399. A more powerful system from Sony for $399.
>People are still angry about it, and rightfully so.
>People even more skeptic and untrusting of Microsoft after they fuck up Windows 10 and adds a bunch of spyware as "telemetry" to "improve customer service, even putting it in Windows 7 and 8 as "critical updates" when they were not critical at all.
>Continue to piss off PC gamers with their "Games For Windows Live" bullshit, it fails, they don't invest in PC gaming and when they try to, they force PC gamers to use Windows 10 or some other Microsoft only platform.
E3 2013 was the start of it. Along with the previously mentioned Windows 10 disaster, they continued to fuck it up with how they really fucked up Conker for "Project Spark" and how they tried to market Conker as a family friendly Disney-like character, when he got popular for not being family friendly. Microsoft always was hated since the 1990's and that hatred got intensified with how they handled the X-Box One launch Windows 8, then Windows 10.
What Sony did was show off games that looked impressive at the time (even though it was mostly bullshit pre-rendered footage), showed three block busters in Final Fantasy XV, Kingdom Hearts 3, and Uncharted 3, and advertised no always online DRM, used game support, and a $100 cheaper console with no creepy Kinect spying on you. They built consumer trust and loyalty. Andrew House even said at the E3 2013 presentation "At Playstation, concepts like true consumer ownership and consumer trust are central to everything we do."
That did it. Switch was popular due to innovation and having a strong roster of their best known games at launch or released close to launch, especially Breath of the Wild. Cheaper system, more innovated, and their franchise games that are still insanely fun to play. It's no brainer.
tl;dr - Microsoft fucked up big time cause of E3 2013 and fucking up ever since while Sony and Nintendo continue to do good things.
Niggers.
9ffaf5 No.14506379
You should realize that the push for streaming is about taking control. It's the ultimate form of DRM as far as Vidya goes. But it will succeed. Why? For the same reason Netflix succeeded. It will be more convenient. And we all know when it comes to your entertainment, convenience is king. The internet is too slow in burger-land you say? Well, that's never going to change, will it? And we all know what a principled stand gamers make when it comes to DRM, don't we?
Oh, a few oldfags will bitch and moan for a while, but most people who play vidya don't care about the long-term consequences as long as they can play what they want today. You're not the most principled lot overall, so it's just a matter of time, and momentum. Are you guys really going to say no to Steaming once that's the only way to play certain games?
d417f7 No.14506403
d417f7 No.14506407
>>14506357
Yeah, the only way to move forward with the Xbox brand as a console manufacturer is to launch a new console. None of that Xbox One shit, a full rebranding is in order. Also fire Phil Spencer, he's just another Don Mattrick but in Soccer dad clothes
2fd0d8 No.14506410
>>14506357
>while Sony and Nintendo continue to do good things.
No, not in the slightest but M$ being M$ drove the 360 fags to PS4.
d33694 No.14506425
>>14506379
You mean like how netflix has been bleeding numbers for a long time because they lose nearly every show they get a hold of and a lot of networks have opted to just host their own ad supported streams of media?
And this isn't even mentioning how they partnered with T-Mobile to bloat their numbers by giving everyone with T-Mobile netflix
9ffaf5 No.14506436
>>14506425
Mhm. And has there been an uptick in Blu-ray/DVD sales? No? Netflix isn't the only streaming service, but it is the one that made streaming the norm and physical media the exception.
d33694 No.14506446
>>14506436
>And has there been an uptick in Blu-ray/DVD sales?
Actually, with streaming services badly fragmenting and their individual value getting worse and worse, dvd and bluray sales have been improving.
9ffaf5 No.14506459
>>14506446
Are you telling menormal fags are abandoning movie streaming? Really? Gonna need to see some actual numbers on this.
9ffaf5 No.14506461
d33694 No.14506467
>>14506459
All movie streaming? No
Premium streaming services, yes.
dd0c76 No.14506483
Nobody but the asians with good internet could possible have a decent experience with cloud gaming. Every other country has shit internet either because infrastructure is bad or the ISPs are corrupt. that's why this will not work for anything outside of turn-based, slow as shit or mobile-tier gaming. Good luck trying to play FPS or fighter. People are retreating more and more to drm-free stuff, knowing how bad the future is getting with net neutrality, censorship etc. Anyone who gives a damn about full-feature gaming and isn't a retard won't buy into this.
af50b8 No.14506535
>>14506483
>Every other country has shit internet either because infrastructure is bad or the ISPs are corrupt.
Even romania has better internet than us,uk,canada and australia combined.
9ffaf5 No.14506549
>>14506467
Lets remove MS and Netflix for a moment. Lets say Nintendo started a virtual console streaming service. Do you think people would use it? I think probably. From there, Nintendo would begin moving exclusives to its service. Maybe nothing major at first, just a Mario spinoff or Animal crossing. Would anyone make a big uproar? I doubt it. From there streaming has basically been normalized, and when the next Zelda or Metroid is announced as a Nintendo-Network exclusive, hardly anyone will be upset. And no one will forgo their favorite IP on account of some dumb oldfags telling them how stupid they are on an anonymous imageboard.
aa8d60 No.14506570
>>14506549
Just like how the "exclusive" Mario game on mobile is such a smash hit that Nintendo will no longer release a full home console Mario game? Yeah.
d33694 No.14506571
>>14506549
They're doing software rental, they've already decided on a system where you still download the games.
9ffaf5 No.14506585
>>14506571
>>14506570
You're afraid. You should be. But this is the future you, collectively, chose.
f7574d No.14506590
>>14505496
The owner did it, it got bought and destroyed by Sony.
ef67d4 No.14506593
>>14506483
This.
Do you realize how shitty internet is in Canada?
>Live in Toronto, Vancouver, or some other big name city
>You can probably get optic internet at a "decent" price
>Live in a small town
>Enjoy traditional cable-based networking, at the cost of $70-$120 for unlimited internet
>Also you still get throttled for no reason and have no upspeed
>Live in the boonies
>All you get is satellite internet
>Enjoy paying $50/mo for 200 kb/s connection and a 10 gb limit
d33694 No.14506600
>>14506585
Actually, I think you'll find it's the future that has been shot down over and over.
Even if we're not even referring to noninteractive media.
2b53d6 No.14506603
>>14506585
>But this is the future you, collectively, chose
Nigga prove anyone here has supported xbox shit and this isn't just microsoft in their infinite power trying to shove their dicks in a new market.
02afe2 No.14506652
>>14506593
A sane people would have revolted by now, instead you elected Trudeau.
91cb45 No.14506683
ef67d4 No.14506709
>>14506652
I didn't vote for him
d417f7 No.14506722
>>14506709
No, but you're still fucked.
Don't worry I bully all my canadian friends about this
02afe2 No.14506756
>>14506709
You didn't assassinate him either.
8856e5 No.14506761
>>14506593
It's not that different in the US. In big cities, you can either pay 100+ US DOLLARS a month for internet speed that only barely matches the cheap ass internet I had when I lived in Japan 10 years ago or you can go with a "competitor" that rents its bandwidth from one of the two big ISPs in the area and get a fraction of the big ISP speed. Outside the big cities, the best you can get is satellite that harkens back to the days of Prodigy and America Online. I'm in a big city and have on of the big ISPs as my provider, and it's still too slow for remote play between my PS4 and Vita TV.
c4b84e No.14506780
>>14506357
>Conker for "Project Spark".
Fuck, you made me remember they did much worse with Conker with that Young Conker shit.
f7c742 No.14506795
>>14506780
>Family friendly Conker
It's already bad enough that they sit on Rare's property, it's fucking awful to defile such a good game.
ef67d4 No.14506810
>>14506761
>Try to discuss internet with normalfags
>Their face when it's not a monopoly because we have TWO options in Bell and Rogers, even though they collude and gouge, and aggressively buy out competitors and kill them
d33694 No.14506840
>Tfw fiber internet for $40 a month
>tfw tech and infrastructure is basically safe from the san fran migration because they're afraid of my state
c02258 No.14506858
>pay $600 for video game streaming, with over 200 titles to choose from, from Original Xbox to Xbone
>requires purchasing an Xbone
would you?
db0e2f No.14506871
03e93f No.14506875
>>14506840
>They're afraid of my state
Why? Also, which state?
6e19e3 No.14506880
>>14506858
Not really, it would be cheaper to buy the consoles and hack them. I'm mainly talking about the 360 and the original Xbox, I don't know of any xbone games that would be worth it.
d33694 No.14506881
>>14506875
Guns, and the best state.
03e93f No.14506890
>>14506881
Texas? Keep tabs on Austin, or they'll have a foothold to infiltrate from.
d33694 No.14506896
>>14506890
Oh, there's already plans for austin.
45aa16 No.14506897
>>14506223
I'm one of those flea market slavs and you can't stop me from raping all your precious little old games, selling them off to autistic westerners. We must rapidly and violently burn down all vidya to create a new, ideal world. We don't need history where we are going. Also the italicized yeah makes you look like a redditfag/woman
27f178 No.14506902
>>14506897
trying way too hard, anon
03e93f No.14506912
>>14506896
Good. Texas is one of the few states I would consider moving to.
51caed No.14506916
SOFTWARE AS A SERVICE
Every tech nigger wants everyone to use thin clients again because it's more "convenient" and totally not a bad idea with so many backdoors into computers these days. I can't wait for all my files to be lost in a hack and dumped somewhere because I decided that it's a good idea to keep everything I do in one centralized location. This is just another step in that direction touting it as "consumer-friendly" because you don't need to buy a console every year and instead stream it off "muh netflix for vidya". I can't wait for this to be a disaster.
45aa16 No.14506924
>>14506902
In your heart you know vidya accelerationism to be true
27ac03 No.14506934
>>14506840
HEY YOU
STOP POSTING THAT GARBAGE REACTION IMAGE, I'M RUNNING OUT OF IMAGES AND WORDS THAT CONVEY MY SHEER HATRED FOR IT
e521b1 No.14506974
>>14506896
Doesn't Texas have some fucked up Secession clause in their state constitution that allows them to - not to break away from the Union - but to fragment the state into several smaller states, which can then form their own republic of Texan states.
In theory, couldn't you just eject Austin and make it an island territory surrounded by Texas 2.0?
02afe2 No.14507030
>>14506974
Why not just surround Austin and starve the population to death?
53d43a No.14507043
>>14506379
>It will be more convenient
Except that's wrong.
5ba2e1 No.14507075
>>14506780
Did that game ever come out? I've heard nothing about it
8a79b3 No.14507081
>>14506896
There are still plenty of us in Austin, pls don't glass it.
02afe2 No.14507114
>>14507081
How about we institute a redemption policy? Anyone that comes to a checkpoint with a necklace strung with at least 20 liberal ears gets a pass. Scalps are also acceptable.
45aa16 No.14507130
>>14507100
>That second image
435cc8 No.14507135
>>14506902
You want him to try harder?! You fucking monster.
5adeb5 No.14507136
>>14507075
NOPE, and they scaled back HoloLens "strictly for business use only. Filthy gamers are suppose to get Vive."
I shit you not, that is what the lady at a Microsoft store said to me when I asked if I could try out the HoloLens.
40c850 No.14507143
>streaming video games
<piss-poor input latency
<longer loading times
<get fucked by network problems even if you're playing single player
The dream of every gamer.
2fd0d8 No.14507144
>>14507130
They use Azure for destruction because >muh normal CPUs don't have that power
d149da No.14507158
>>14507136
The hololens was a piece of fucking trash that didn't work the way they advertised it, and they scaled it back because they didn't want to face the embarrassment of releasing that abortion to the public.
53d43a No.14507160
>>14507158
AR is shit anyway
d149da No.14507172
>>14506761
>and it's still too slow for remote play between my PS4 and Vita TV.
Isn't that your home network's problem, not the internet service?
45aa16 No.14507173
>>14507144
Ok, now I understand after looking it up but saying "Crackdown 3 effectively turns your XBone into the most powerful console ever made" is still so hilariously retarded and misleading, it makes me almost like game journos
2fd0d8 No.14507177
>>14507160
Well now we have to wait for real hologram displays which will still take a while.
5adeb5 No.14507179
>>14507177
>wait for real hologram displays
d149da No.14507191
>>14507179
That's not a real hologram, it's the kind Disney has been using in that haunted house ride since the fucking 70s.
2fd0d8 No.14507194
>>14507173
>turns your XBone into the most powerful console ever made
It's an obvious lie. You can't teleport hardware into it.
>>14507179
But it's not a 3d hologram
8a79b3 No.14507196
>>14507136
>he doesn't know how to spout buzzwords about business use cases and gamification at people until they back down
0/10 apply yourself.
45aa16 No.14507198
>>14507130
>>14507173
Also can Xbones be the the standard unit for determining how powerful hardware is or how demanding a game is. I think my toaster is about half an xbone right now example, but I would like to upgrade to something between 1.5 and 2 xbones
53d43a No.14507199
>>14507179
Virtual waifus require better AI technology more than anything else.
45aa16 No.14507211
>>14507194
>It's an obvious lie. You can't teleport hardware into it.
I know anon, that's why I found it so funny. "Insert game for more ram"
d33694 No.14507215
5adeb5 No.14507218
>>14507196
Why should I when it's pretty obvious that they don't want my money?
0147a3 No.14507220
>>14507198
I think my 1060 is something like 3.5 Xboners.
985b85 No.14507224
>>14507220
Is the 1050ti 1.5 Xbones?
0147a3 No.14507251
>>14507224
Seems like it. Speaking of, I gotta check out how much these cards cost now with the retard coin miners causing shortages.
0e51b0 No.14507263
>>14506224
>Gamers want graphics not exclusives.
First off gas yourself, secondly if people wanted graphics how the fuck is the Switch in berserk mode?
2fd0d8 No.14507291
>>14507224
I'm not good with XBones. How many is a 980 slightly overclocked?
3b678f No.14507293
>>14506881
>the best state
the Mexican state*
33a8d4 No.14507302
>>14507198
How high is your powerlevel anon? mine is like 20 X.B.O.X, but I also go to the gym, so it makes sense.
985b85 No.14507308
>>14507291
the 1060 is 1.5 Xbones, so a 980 is 0.5 Xb1s.
2fd0d8 No.14507311
4a4d65 No.14507313
>>14506410
>that webm
>"live action Halo television series"
Did anything actually come from that? I never heard anything about it after that conference
985b85 No.14507314
>>14507251
I don't think miners are causing 1050ti shortages, since they can't be connected by SLI, unlike the 1080s.
673465 No.14507322
>>14505690
>Look at $ony, what is there to play on PS4?
There are a few for me, but I'm a fighting fan. I only have a Switch at the moment though.
0147a3 No.14507323
>>14507314
Just checked, they're 200+ bucks now. SLI isn't all people who are into the mining fad look for. Lots but single card setups as long as the card turns in a profit. It's thy a card like the GTX 1060 (3GB) has gone from about 200 bucks to 400 bucks.
985b85 No.14507335
>>14507323
the 1050ti has 4gb of Video RAM. I had picked up the Zotac GTX1050ti mini when I bought mine, for the record. I was more concerned about space more than anything.
0147a3 No.14507344
>>14507335
I was specifically pointing out the 3GB version of the 1060 because it used to be so much cheaper. Thing is that memory doesn't factor into mining either so every coin reject went for it over the 6GB model to save more cash. All they care about is raw hash generating performance vs price.
985b85 No.14507345
>>14507323
It was around $230 before the craze started up, so it hadn't really moved all that much, according to Walmart's numbers.
33a8d4 No.14507347
>>14507313
All I can say is that exists, because I saw a few scenes of it on TV. At first I thought, ti was just a coincidence of names, but then Master Chief appeared, and I knew they actually made a Halo TV series.
0147a3 No.14507350
>>14507345
Where I live, the 1050ti was about 150. The 1060 3GB I got was 180, and the 6GB model was around 250. Thank fuck i bought it just before the prices skyrocketed.
33693f No.14507355
Yeah, this is fucking dumb. No one will ever be able to overcome latency issues, and that's death for any fast-paced game. They should stick with Game Pass, where you download the actual game, and expand that to PC.
6d1a2c No.14507356
Uh they tried that it was called gametap and it was a fucking disaster
didn't microsoft get tired windows live being raped by steam? they really want to try this shit again?
ab0de5 No.14507526
>>14506974
Saging for non-vidya. But yes Texas as a clause where Secession is not allowed, but that applied to every state post Civil War. Texas does have the option to split into 5 or less states.
Regarding bandwidth/latency and ISP's in Texas; things are kinda jumbled. You got the choice of two companies. One is shit and the other is shitty. That's how it is in the cities. In the country, its worse because you will most likely not have a choice as to who your ISP is. You either go with whoever is offering internet or no internet. This is made worse since these are not big companies. If you are lucky, literally, they will be a subsidiary of one of the big two. If not, you might as well hook a modem up and play that good ole Dial Up Noise.
Here's another point to consider, the entire country is not encased in one city. So every small town, every po-dunk house that is not in or near a major city is forced into having the shit-net. If 1984soft tries to move their console with this "service" as its selling point, they just fucked themselves into a corner.
8a79b3 No.14507532
>>14507218
You wanted to try it, didn't you? You don't have to give them money.
27ac03 No.14507548
>>14507224
There's a 1050ti?
5ee429 No.14507574
>>14505479
They're already dead.
201def No.14507589
>>14505479
>The video game industry has long been a siloed market where games available on one console cannot be played elsewhere.
This is a real problem. If I buy a game, I should be able to play it on any computer or console that is powerful enough to run it.
201def No.14507596
>>14507356
GameTap was a great service.
Utomik and Jump do the same thing.
201def No.14507597
>>14507574
Why? It's working for PS Now.
5adeb5 No.14507631
>>14507589
Emulation is legal in America.
a06d01 No.14507790
Cloud gaming really isn’t anything worth worrying about. It has several big structural flaws that will prevent it from reaching any kind of mass adoption with current gamers.
The biggest one is that it is far more costly for MS/Sony to have someone playing via a cloud service than how it is today, where people buy their own hardware, download once, and run it locally. Having machines ready to run the game and servers to send it back quickly isn’t cheap at all, which is why all the cloud gaming services (Onlive, Nvidia’s thing, and PS Now) out there are comparatively expensive to just owning the games.
They wouldn’t try to force everyone to cloud gaming because that wouldn’t be a profitable move for most of their customers, because their operating costs are much higher for a cloud customer than a normal customer and their only return is a flat subscription fee. They would much rather have people buying hardware and then spending hundreds of dollars on games that only need one download to be run locally.
This kind of service makes more sense for people who are curious about playing a game but don’t want to buy a console or expensive PC to play it, or for people in countries where there is great internet but economically isn’t really able to afford mass console ownership.
If something like this were to take off, which is unlikely anyways due to the wide availability of cheap/F2P titles out there, it would take off with new or really casual gamers and with people in non-Western countries. It would be worrisome if they did try to force it on everyone, but that really doesn’t make sense for them to do economically anyways.
d149da No.14507820
This shit will win over stupid normalfags eventually. Maybe not now, but at some point it'll happen. And you'll live to see people unironically criticize low-latency input, like how consolefags think 30fps is better and movie retards hated 48fps.
00ff94 No.14507829
>Microsoft finally leaves the video game industry without making a single cent
>But not before completely ruining pc gaming
Is there a more cancerous company in vidya?
2fd0d8 No.14507836
2fd0d8 No.14507848
>>14507829
And Valve(the ultimate evil) of course but EA has done more evil to my favorite game studios.
5f2247 No.14507857
>Cloud is the future
Past and Present.
f42b4b No.14507862
>>14505483
Sony already has… PlayStation Now I think it's called, which is basically this. And yes, it streams the game to your home while your inputs go to another cpu that's actually running it. And yes, this means exactly what you think it does, there's a fraction of a second (or more) latency on your every input. Which isn't entirely gamebreaking, but it does detract somewhat
from your enjoyment.
1176ae No.14507879
>>14507820
Movie retards hate 48fps because it looks like nauseating garbage filmed on a camcorder. Also I've never spoken to anyone who plays console and gives two shits about frame rate.
534437 No.14507944
>>14507879
They are ignorant elitists and when they say that hate 48fps i bet many of them actually watch their movies at 60+fps as most new TVs have sorts of frames extrapolation and normalfags are too stupid to find this option in menu and turn it off.
e521b1 No.14508005
>>14507862
>Which isn't entirely gamebreaking
Depends on the game. If you're playing garbage walking sims like the TLOU or even cover-based shooters, it won't be that bad. Anything that requires actual reflexes or proper timing will be fucked.
I can't even play Project Diva Future Tone streaming from my PS4 to PC… and they're in the same room, both connected to the router via ethernet, and I'm directly connecting the DS4 to the PS4 so there's as little input latency as possible.
It still feels like I'm playing through molasses. Adjusting the in-game latency compensation helps, but only to a point - and would be completely useless if there's any variance in the latency. They'd basically have to design games from the ground up to constantly check the latency and automatically adjust the compensation - and it'd still end up feeling like shit to play because you would still be fighting constantly changing variables.
So yeah, say goodbye to rhythm games.
d149da No.14508035
>>14507944
This. All those modern TVs have that motion smoothing shit that makes it even higher than 48fps and nobody complains.
>>14507879
People hated The Hobbit because it was filmed nauseatingly. The camera work was god-awful, and then everyone blamed HFR because they didn't know any better because they're stupid fucking normalfags.
985b85 No.14508079
>>14508035
I usually turn off motion smoothing as that causes display lag.
d3db93 No.14508858
>>14505479
>CLOUD GAMING IS THE FUTURE
Not if the stingy ISPs throttling consumers have anything to say about it.
bd8a49 No.14508910
>>14507136
>sell PCs in a retail store as a side job
>Microsoft keeps pushing things like MIXED REALITY and WINDOWS INK!
>gives us no training on how these things are actually useful
>windows ink okay, if you draw a lot then having an active stylus is neat, but almost no other practical reason. literally nothing on mixed reality.
>am supposed to upsell computers based on mixed reality but still have no idea what it does or how it's useful
>store only sells one mixed reality headset; it's never in stock and it's supposedly awful
>if a customer asked me to describe mixed reality and how it would be useful, i'd have no idea what to say
>luckily no one cares about stupid gimmicky shit like that, so no one asks
also anyone who knows anything about computers hates Windows 10. people constantly ask if they can buy computers with Windows 7.
087211 No.14508934
>>14505479
MAYBE THEY CAN START MAKING REAL GAMES!
You know the ones, where the game isn't in the menus for opening boxes but playing a neat well design vidya.
d33694 No.14509162
>>14508509
It depends on how good your home network and host CPU is, and wireless tanks performance.
d33694 No.14509180
>>14509162
oh and the few intensive games on steam are literally unplayable because of the input delay.
Just an example I've personally had to deal with, Space Channel 5 Part 2
ecc907 No.14509207
>>14507862
Is PS Now still good? I heard some people were saying that is was very "meh".
90494e No.14509305
The problem with shit like this is that whenever someone attempts this, rather than doing what Netflix is doing (charging a monthly fee), they charge per game you get. While a system like this has merit, the fact that they do this compared to the monthly thing means you might as well just be buying the fucking games rather than paying the same fucking price to get the same thing, but with input lag. Not to mention the whole aspect of bandwith and internet speeds not really being up to snuff in lots of places. With how jewish Microsoft normally is, this idea is likely to end up dead in the water.
9ffceb No.14509330
>>14509207
PS now is okay if you can tolerate a 240p resolution
f42b4b No.14509646
>>14509330
If I recall, resolution wasn't a problem, given your game is being streamed from another cpu. The latency was the only problem I encountered. Everything else seemed fine.
ab2233 No.14509691
>the successful x of category y
>xgate
bee9f8 No.14509999
>>14509207
You need an internet connection with low latency. Which means you better live near one of Sony's data centres.
It was pretty amusing when Sony introduced PS Now in Europe. They put their infrastructure in the UK, which meant everything had to go through the North Sea cables for users in continental Europe.
Oh and this technology does NOT scale. Imagine 5 million people playing the new COD on a Saturday evening.
53d43a No.14510361
>>14509999
>Imagine 5 million people playing the new COD on a Saturday evening.
You don't even have to imagine it. Just look at the disastrous launch of any game with always online DRM.
a0ec75 No.14510386
>>14505776
>>14505669
>xbox pirated games
>tfw still waiting for Xbox 360 CFW that doesn't involve one to take the console apart
>Xbox emulators never ever
03e93f No.14510456
>>14510386
>tfw still waiting for Xbox 360 CFW that doesn't involve one to take the console apart
You can do it, you pussy, it's not very hard. I did it when I was a teenager and knew basically nothing about electronics. Not that it mattered, since it was sporadically red ringing anyway. You'll need a thin, pointy object to push into some tiny ports that have locking plastic tabs along the edges of the system, a screwdriver set with torx heads, an extra SATA cable of decent length so you can connect the Xbox's disc drive to your computer's motherboard while leaving it connected to its normal power source, and a box set of Kenan and Kel.
14a556 No.14510457
>>14505479
>Microsoft has a plan for getting 2 billion gamers around the world to use its service.
Yeah because it worked out so well the last ten times schlomos tried to make cloud gaming a thing
c25f5e No.14510665
>>14505499
so even for single player games there would be a ping delay, lmao how pathetic imagine paying for this crap, it will be like google glass it will NEVRER take off
c25f5e No.14510670
>also anyone who knows anything about computers hates Windows 10
im a NEET and i only hate it because of the privacy raping shit, anything else?
c25f5e No.14510681
>>14507836
EEH-AAH SPURTS
TSINEGAME
c25f5e No.14510684
>>14507350
wtf i thought prices decreased over time? am I retarded?
c25f5e No.14510690
>>14506761
daily reminder that northern europe is superior in every way to the US, especially in internet
5adeb5 No.14510859
>>14510670
Every time it updates, it screws up my computer's drivers and software.
>>14510690
Aside from cheap vodka, what do you guys have to offer the world?
4661e1 No.14510919
>cloud gaming
Some things are worth going to war over. When do we lay siege to the Microsoft office building?
e7ce2c No.14510971
I hate when these niggers say "cloud".
There is no cloud. It's just stored on some retard's server, faggot.
45449e No.14511023
>>14505479
There's been so many failed examples of this. This will fail just like the rest.
de09dc No.14511372
>>14510670
It's just an incompetently made OS on pretty much every level.
d83425 No.14512625
>>14507075
Yes. You can download it for free on the Microsoft website if you have a Hololens.
c0d37a No.14514574
>>14506223
This has to be the most scummy thing I've ever seen in gaming. And probably one of the most jewish things not involving mass murder or corruption I've seen in modern day.
>>14506251
A private consumer making things better for consumers isn't inherently anticapitalist, but anti Capitalist isn't inherently a bad thing to begin with.
>>14506549
>hardly anyone will be upset
Just like "hardly anyone" was upset at always online and not sharing physical copies with Xbone right? Shove it up your ass.
>>14506897
>we don't need history
>haha I'm helping jews
You will go straight into the oven, no gas. Alive.
>>14510690
Keep deluding yourself Sven, Scandis were born to cuck.