2943e9 No.14481761
Is there a definitive list of actually good JRPGs?
0431d1 No.14481776
DQ1
DQ3
FF1
FF4
FF5
FF6
CT
SMT1/2/Nocturne/Strange Journey (original)/Soul Hackers/Digital Devil Saga/Persona 2/Persona 2 Part 2
Wild ARMS 1/2/3
Xenogears/about thirty percent of Xenosaga
Shadow Hearts 1/2/FTNW
Suikoden 1/2
Radiant Historia (Original)
Etrian Odyssey 1/2/3/4/5
Valkyrie Profile 1/2
a46c73 No.14481801
60c756 No.14481821
>>14481776
>No Tales of Phantasia/Vesperia
Are you even trying?
Also Chrono Trigger is meh at best.
0431d1 No.14481830
>>14481821
Tales is trash.
41a6df No.14481835
JRPG copypasta
>If you want some decent starting places, consider Final Fantasy VI (IV, V, and VII are also rather well liked), Dragon Quest (III, IV, and V tend to be fan favorites), Paper Mario (both the N64 and Gamecube ones; also Super Mario RPG for the SNES, though it’s not quite the same), Mario and Luigi (especially Superstar Saga on the GBA), and Chrono Trigger for turn-based/ATB systems. Tales of Eternia/Symphonia/Vesperia and some of the Mana games if you want real-time combat. Also plenty of other series out there (Baten Kaitos, Breath of Fire, Grandia, Legend of Heroes, Lost Kingdoms, Lufia, Lunar, Metal Max, Mother, Phantasy Star, SaGa, Shadow Hearts, Shin Megami Tensei, Star Ocean, Suikoden, Valkyrie Profile, Wild Arms, etc), as well as standalone games (Infinite Space, Lagrange Point, Radiant Historia, Rogue Galaxy, Skies of Arcadia, The World Ends With You, etc) if you find yourself liking them. That’s not to say that you have to follow a particular order for getting started with the (sub)genre either, just that some might be easier to get into as someone newly looking into them, than someone that already enjoys them.
>That’s also not taking into account the swath of tactical JRPGs as well: Dept. Heaven, Disgaea (as well as various other NIS tactical games like Makai Kingdom, Phantom Brave, and Soul Nomad), Final Fantasy Tactics, Fire Emblem, Front Mission, Langrisser & Growlanser, Ogre Battle & Tactics Ogre, Shining Force, Super Robot Wars to name some.
>Big thing to keep in mind is that there's a lot to pick from (even more if you're willing to look beyond the mainstream for more niche franchises like Atelier and Ar Tonelico, or go for fan-translated ones as well, as JRPGs are popular to patch into English, even if they can take a damn long time to translate due to script size), and even if one particular series or gameplay style doesn't do it for you, try another one as opposed to writing them all off from a bad experience.
0b0b80 No.14481885
>>14481776
>Radiant Historia (Original)
What's wrong with the remake(or remaster I don't fucking know)
>>14481835
>Paper Mario
Doesn't even come to my fucking mind but that's a good one.
Reminder that Pro Mode hack is a thing and it's very good.
7137cb No.14481904
All of them are good.
Try them all.
41a6df No.14481924
>>14481885
Haven't played the games yet, but from what I've gathered the remake added an unnecessary third act to the game that ruins the original's ending.
3c4883 No.14481938
>No mention of Terranigma
>Again
Fucking amerimuts
f80ead No.14482023
Is there a definitive list of actually good FPSes?
735145 No.14482027
>>14482023
doom, quake, duke3d episodes 1 and 3. that's it, rest of the genre is shite
d1bf22 No.14482070
>>14482027
> Unreal
> Timesplitters 1 or 2
> Ghost Recon
At least try.
0431d1 No.14482073
>>14481924
>>14481885
It's the same problem as every recent atlus remake: add a marie (remake only plot central waifu) that completely fucks up the entire original story and cheapens it, in this case, by messing up the original game's absolutely perfect ending which tied everything up in the most satisfying possible way.
f2a429 No.14482078
>>14481830
>>>14481776
Symphonia, Vesperia and Abyss are the holy trinity of Tales of games and they are excellent games. Anything else is arguably skippable (3d tales wise)
Tales of Phantasia and Tales of Eternia are definitely worth playing.
f80ead No.14482081
>>14482070
He didn't even mention Fear or Lovely Planet.
aeb82b No.14482086
3c4883 No.14482105
What do you think of Level-5's JRPGs? DQVIII is one of my favourite games ever, somehow I never got to play Dark Cloud, Rogue Galaxy, White Knight Chronicles or the Ni No Kuni games.
0b0b80 No.14482125
>>14482081
Lovely planet was crap though.
Shots took too long to travel in a game where you had to be super precise while in movement.
f80ead No.14482185
>>14482125
The travel time was fine because it made leading your shots important but rewarding. The lack of a crosshair was the retarded part, regardless of whether it was an easy fix or not.
531fac No.14482464
>>14482078
Well most people havent played Vesperia because for some reason, Bamco made it an xbox exclusive. There is absolutely no reason for that game not to be on other systems.
0431d1 No.14482527
>>14482105
None of them play anything like DQ8. Their other games are all action rpgs.
96d58e No.14482550
Every Dragon Quest.
The Last Remnant.
Final Fantasy IX, VII, VI, III, V, X.
Chrono Trigger.
I feel like I could name more but I am taking a shit.
9bfbbb No.14482563
>>14482550
Is The Last Remnant worth 10 dollars or should I just find a magnet?
41a6df No.14482588
>>14482563
Why even ask? Always pirate first and then decide for yourself if you think it's worth money.
3fa286 No.14482621
Vagrant Story is a good one. Not quite a traditional JRPG, but more like a pseudo ARPG dungeon crawler. It is set in Ivalice like FFT and has the same kind of art style more or less. Good music and weapon and armor creation as well.
0431d1 No.14482632
>>14482621
>It is set in Ivalice like FFT
Retconned into Ivalice but yeah.
3aec9d No.14482658
>>14482620
>playing as the bad guy
3fa286 No.14482689
>>14482632
" … Vagrant Story, was not originally meant to be set in Ivalice, but it was retconned into the series through references …" Ehhh, that's the kind of shit that annoys me.
5b44cc No.14482714
>>14482464
Only the beta version is Xbox exclusive.
7ac23a No.14482719
>>14482621
fucking great game
10/10 imo
0431d1 No.14482736
>>14482689
Crimson Shroud will probably be retconned into Ivalice eventually. I wouldn't mind.
e4c68b No.14482740
>>14482563
Honestly, if you play Last Remnant, then you better be damn sure you play with a guide as well as have some genuine autism, otherwise you'll hate how obtuse the game is.
>>14482620
>FFTA
Look, as much as I love that game it is not a required JRPG to play, unless you really like SRPGs.
>>14482658
>bad guy
<Waaaaaah some bullies were mean to me so I'll turn them and other random citizens into brain dead monsters against their will in my fantasy zone!
Gas yourself Mewt
9bfbbb No.14482752
>>14482740
More or less obtuse than Resonance of Fate?
Because I beat that just fine.
3e09dd No.14482768
>>14482621
My favorite game.
First time I finished this,
I didn't even master crafting and just went and combo'd every fucking monster with incremental low damage until I killed them,
consequently racking up high combos.
Next playthrough, I was older and able to understand the mechanics, and the game was way easier with crafting.
But honestly, if there's ever a remake or sequel down the road, the menu desperately needs QoL updates.
Fuck having to go back to the menu over and over just to change weapons.
Other than that, I really enjoyed the game.
10/10 together with MGS on the PS
05ee19 No.14482771
>>14482752
I played LR twice without a guide, it's fine.
ed1ed5 No.14482873
No, because there are practically no JRPGs. Few of the games called JRPGs are actual RPGs. Most of the trash the west makes and calls RPGs these days aren't RPGs.
735145 No.14482876
ed1ed5 No.14482902
>>14482876
>Attack modern western "RPGs"
>Goon
You're trying too hard to fit in friendo.
709346 No.14482922
>>14482105
>White Knight Chronicles
Holy shit, that game was bad. The plot was paint by numbers and predictable as fuck, the player made character was so tacked on it hurt, and the multiplayer was even more tacked on than that. I've played very few games where the class balance was so bad that it was detrimental to the single player experience, but WKC pulled it off, which is to say nothing of how badly it ruined multiplayer. If you weren't a two handed sword user or maybe a bow using healer, you could fuck off as far as online was concerned. The only thing the game had going for it was the above average choreography in the FMVs where fighting was involved. There's a reason Sony didn't put a cent of marketing into the release of the sequel despite hyping the original so hard and killed the series at two installments despite it originally being planned as a trilogy.
ff0d97 No.14483021
>>14481776
>FF1
I can understand 4, 5, and 6, but why 1? It's slow, clunky, and other games perform what it set out to do much better.
ff0d97 No.14483038
>>14482654
I personally liked Breath of Fire 2 more, at least the retranslation, but I still like Breath of Fire 3 for what it is. It felt too muddled together for me, the childhood section especially felt like one very long continuous level.
a0905a No.14483055
>>14481761
Nope. JRPG is the bottom of the barrel of vidya genres (unless you're retarded enough to consider visual novels to be videogames, then they're slightly above those).
f7b9d9 No.14483058
>>14482105
Don't play Ni No Kuni or White Knight Chronicles.
Dark cloud and Rogue Galaxy are good though
ea6db8 No.14483119
>>14482902
Always felt jrpg is a buzzword term , west is to insecure to compete with japan. So if someone lives in japan is it still called a jrpg?
531fac No.14483151
>>14483055
The only retarded one in here is you, jackass.
ff0d97 No.14483158
>>14483055
No genre is inherently bad, prove me wrong.
aa68aa No.14483161
>>14483158
Walking simulators
acf252 No.14483167
>>14482023
goldeneye 007 halo odstd halo reach turok (gamecube one NOT n64) bioshock infinite
41a6df No.14483173
ff0d97 No.14483181
>>14483161
Because there are none that let you observe the world as a Gondola. Also because most walking simulators are based in the real world with little to marvel at or no point in it's goal. It's the difference between walking through your neighborhood and hiking through the Swiss Alps.
208f96 No.14483261
>>14481761
>turn based
The Dragon Quest series
The Final Fantasy series(don't play anything after 9)
Final Fantasy Legend 2
Final Fantasy Legend 3
Romancing Saga(SNES)
Romancing Saga 3
Saga Frontier
Saga Frontier 2
Chrono Trigger
Chrono Cross
Xenogears
Shining in the Darkness
Shining the Holy Ark
The Phantasy Star series(skip 3)
Lunar(Sega CD or PS1)
Lunar 2(Sega CD or PS1)
Lunar: Walking School
Grandia
Grandia 2
Wild Arms
Wild Arms 2
Wild Arms 3
Suikoden
Suikoden 2
The Breath of Fire series
The 7th Saga
Mystic Ark
Live a Live
Treasure of the Rudras
Megami Tensei series(and spinoffs)
Emerald Dragon
Albert Odyssey: Legend of Eldean
The Legend of Heroes series
Earthbound
Mother 3
Lufia
Lufia 2
The Metal Max/Metal Saga series
Vay
Cosmic Fantasy 2
The Golden Sun series
Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver
Legend of Legaia
Legaia 2: Duel Saga
The Legend of the Dragoon
Thousand Arms
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Paper Mario
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
Mario and Luigi Super Star Saga
Mario and Luigi Bower's Inside Story
Panzer Dragoon Saga
Skies of Arcadia
The Ar Tonelico series
Ar Nosurge
The Atelier series
Koudelka
The Shadow Hearts Series
Odin Sphere(PSP)
Okage: Shadow King
Radiant Historia
Hexyz Force
The Dark Spire
Nostalgia
The Etrian Odyssey series
Lost Odyssey
Valkyrie Profile
Azure Dreams
Baten Kaitos
Baten Kaitos Origins
>action
The Mega Man Battle Network series
The Mega Man Star Force series
The Ys Series
Zwei: The Arges Adventure
Zwei: The Ilvalrd Insurrection
Gurumin: A Monsterous Adventure
Popful Mail
Sorcerian
The Xanadu series
Secret of Mana
Secret of Evermore
Seiken Densetsu 3
Legend of Mana
Soul Blazer
Illusion of Gaia
Terranigma
Grandstream Saga
Radiata Stories
Star Ocean
Star Ocean 2
The Tales series
Landstalker
Alundra
Alundra 2
Final Fantasy XII
Vagrant Story
Threads of Fate
Brave Fencer Musashi
Alchaest
Parasite Eve
Parasite Eve 2
The .Hack series
Dark Cloud
Dark Cloud 2
Rogue Galaxy
Xenoblade Chronicles
The Rune Factory series
Summon Knight: Swordcraft Story
Summon Knight: Swordcraft Story 2
Summon Knight: Swordcraft Story 3
>tactical
The Fire Emblem series(don't play anything after 10)
Der Langrisser
Langrisser 4
The Growlanser series(don't play anything after 4)
Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen
Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together
Ogre Battle 64
Final Fantasy Tactics
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Tear Ring Saga
The Valkyria Chronicles series
Stella Deus
The Arc the Lad series
The Sakura Wars series
La Pucelle: Tactics
Phantom Brave
The Front Mission series
The Super Robot Wars series
Bahamut Lagoon
Treasure Hunter G
Vanguard Bandits
The Farland Saga series
Brigandine
Kartia: The Word of Fate
The Disgaea series
Gungir
Vandal Hearts
Vandal Hearts 2
Yggdra Union
Riviera: The Promised Land
Galaxy Angel
8caeae No.14483315
Why do you need a list to tell you what games to play?
64ca31 No.14483339
>>14483261
Here ya go. Great list, anon.
e4c68b No.14483340
>>14483167
>halo odstd halo reach turok (gamecube one NOT n64) bioshock infinite
Shit b8 kys
>>14483161
LSD Dream Emulator
281fed No.14483355
>>14483261
Nice list. I would add Utawarerumono to the tactical side. If we're adding Dungeon RPGs, then Labyrinth of Touhou 2 and Dungeon Travelers 2 are fantastic. 7th Dragon series can go under turn based combat.
76f491 No.14483358
>>14481761
>single player games
>community
FUCK (YOU) OP
37fad0 No.14483472
def9dc No.14483640
>>14481776
Suikoden? Jfc m8
8510b2 No.14483676
Step aside, Square/Enix plebs.
>>14481776
>leaving out the best Persona
96d58e No.14483706
>>14483119
There is an obvious and clear line between a Japanese style RPG and a Western Style RPG.
For example, though the Souls games are made in Japan and have minor Japanese influences they are heavily influenced by western sstyle roleplayijg games. The souls games are definitely more WRPG than JRPG, despite the national origin of the games. You can say the same thing for a game like Battlechasers: Nightwar or Child of Light. Western RPG with heavy JRPG influences.
The terms do not describe the actual national origin of the games but a whole subset of design philosophies.
4e9be3 No.14483731
reminder that the only reason Persona 5 isn't widely considered good on /v/ is because it's popular
b878b5 No.14483770
>>14481938
that doesn't typically get lumped in with jrpg's. people's definition of jrpg is hazy and real time shit usually throws people off.
968ca6 No.14483837
>>14481761
Golden Sun and GS: The Lost Age.
Chrono Trigger is made perfectly, but can feel dated so some.
Mario RPG, Paper Mario 1 and 2.
Bravely Default, never have I heard a better soundtrack
I can barely recommend Earthbound, I played and finished it because cultural significance. But damn it's a dated.
>>14483058
yo dawg, i haven't played Ni No Kuni. What's wrong with it though?
ab1480 No.14483891
I've yet to find another rpg like dqv where the premise is passing on the torch to the next generation.
Agarest war was shit and the western devs are too busy with tearing down the family structure because muh progress
Grand strategy games don't count
5a847a No.14484032
>>14481776
>Xenogears/Xenosaga III
>No xenoblade
Excuse me?
f7b9d9 No.14484054
>>14483706
>There is an obvious and clear line between a Japanese style RPG and a Western Style RPG.
There isn't. Its entirely in your head. Early JRPGs were just wizardry and ultima derivative.
>though the Souls games are made in Japan and have minor Japanese influences they are heavily influenced by western sstyle roleplayijg games
Like what? Articulate yourself more than not at all.
85a98d No.14484290
Long story short. Give up on JRPGs after Compile Heart made their comeback.So.. Shortly after 2010~2012 is the buffer for good JRPGs.While 2013~2014 was when the fun effectively died and cut and paste, endless grinding nonsense started to flood the market.
I just don't do not know why the Return of Idea Factor and Compile Heart to the mainstream triggered such a downfall of quality in ALL JRPGs. Very few NEW jrpgs are even worth your time or interest and it's not all that ironic when you consider that Dragon Ball Fusions is one of them.
0431d1 No.14484291
>>14484032
Xenoblade is shit.
5a847a No.14484313
>>14484291
XCX is a mess and I can understand you don't like XC2 since it's a huge thematic departure from the series, but you don't get to talk shit about XC1. You're an appallingly disgusting pleb and should kill yourself at the earliest possible time.
f2a429 No.14484338
>>14483261
>don't play anything after 9
funny way to say 12
Also SO3 is worth playing for the gameplay
531fac No.14484351
>>14484338
Fuck both of you.
X was mint.
29aa81 No.14484812
>>14482105
Rogue Galaxy is the best game that no one talks about.
44c498 No.14484829
>>14484812
Because its one of those JRPGs that never received a sequel or any kind of continuation. It always happens with those kind of games. If JRPG has only one game in line, its usually disregarded.
85a98d No.14484876
>>14484812
It's because of the last 4th of the game.
1/4th, excellent.
2/4th, excellent
3/4th, interesting until those Star Jaster only enemies start appearing, shoehorning into making sure he's always in your fucking party.
4/4th, Jesus Christ they ran out of money.
636ae4 No.14484886
Is Radiant Historia any good?
956988 No.14484985
I always feel like in threads like this, people should just list a couple of games and give a short description of what makes them good, instead of just posting a long list of games with no further explanation.
f7b9d9 No.14485161
>>14484886
Its pretty good.
The DS version has better art.
0431d1 No.14485213
>>14484886
>>14485161
Play DS version. 3DS version fucks up story by shoving in a magical space waifu.
636ae4 No.14485221
>>14485213
>>14485161
dammit I just got the Japanese version in the mail.
41a6df No.14485223
>>14485221
That's what you get for not properly researching your games anon.
0431d1 No.14485260
>>14485221
It's a DS game. You should have a flashcard or emulator for it by now.
Seriously, there's no reason to actually pay for games on the current gen.
PS3 and 4 are both jailbroken. Switch is almost there and doesn't have much going on for it now anyway. Every XBO game is on PC. Vita and 3DS are totally hacked.
aa68aa No.14485361
>>14485221
There's an option before the game starts to ignore the new stuff until NG+. The original portraits are (((DLC))), so RIP dyke haircut
http://archive.is/6pjXG
>>14485260
I'm assuming he bought it by choice rather than necessity
0431d1 No.14485374
>>14485361
>I'm assuming he bought it by choice rather than necessity
Then he deserves bully.
3aec9d No.14485397
>>14484290
Dragonball Fusions was a breath of fresh air, I'll be honest.
e6dd0e No.14485516
>no Romancing Saga 2
>no Dragon Slayer
>no Hydlide
>no Revival Xanadu
Fucking plebs all of you
636ae4 No.14485779
>>14485223
I did not research it mainly because I thought it was kinda like the Index days of Atlus when they would release new ports for the handhelds just to make more money for development of a new game. Or I'm kinda convinced of it, since they've got like 2 big tittle games that they are developing one being a mainline smt and the other is that re-fantasy game.
I started on the never played the game before mode. SO hopefully that is the sweet spot, if not I'm gonna waste some money on the DS version when the 20th comes.
>>14485260
>>14485374
I am one of those guys that likes to play on original hardware when given the choice.
Also when it comes to jailbroken stuff I'm like more power to you, I have money to spend and when I want a game I will pay for it.
It's the same thing when it comes to PSP games, I buy a copy and play it.
db9ce9 No.14485837
I'm playing FF7 for the first time ever.
What am i in for?
2007dc No.14485847
3b94c4 No.14486028
>>14485837
lego characters floating around on pre-rendered backgrounds
0431d1 No.14486045
>>14485837
Get enemy skill Beta from the Zolom to sweep the whole game.
789575 No.14486113
>>14481821
>Chrono Trigger is meh at best
>Recommends literally any tales of
Shit taste at it's purist
a0298a No.14486126
>>14481776
>no Monster Girl Quest
531fac No.14487084
Xenoblade Chronicles looks really cool. Is it too late to get a Wii U and would it be worth it just for one game?
dc16ab No.14487112
>>14487084
It is on 3DS and can also be emulated well on PC.
a36454 No.14487172
>>14486126
>hentai games
>video games
abb759 No.14487186
>>14481761
Everything on Super Nintendo/SFC, most of the stuff on Playstation, Some of the stuff on PS2/DS.
abb759 No.14487192
>>14487112
You're thinking of Xenoblade 1 from the Wii.
0762a6 No.14487202
>>14483119
JRPG isn't a real genre, the correct phrase for what people mean by JRPG is console RPG. WRPG also doesn't exist, it's just computer RPG. Journalists struck the phrases years ago and people stopped using them just by virtue of being drowned out by the platforms granted to journalists.
b2b290 No.14487223
>>14487202
>computer RPG
Except nowadays when they're all just action rpgs.
dc16ab No.14487238
>>14487192
>You're thinking of Xenoblade 1 from the Wii.
That is correct. I'm thinking of Xenoblade Chronicles, which is available for the Wii, Wii U Virtual Console, and New 3DS. If anon was referring to Xenoblade Chronicles X on the Wii U, then no, it isn't worth getting a Wii U for.
0762a6 No.14487248
>>14487223
it's all the style, and the names describe them better and more universally. Gives you more of an expectation of the game play too. I think its better to use more exact terms for games these days, like when describing a modern bioware game.
abb759 No.14487265
>>14487238
Oh yeah, I'm retarded. Confused Chronicles with X.
06ebb2 No.14487709
>>14482105
>I never got to play Dark Cloud
Both are somewhat like a PS2-era interpretation of Actraiser; a hybrid of ARPG and town builder. Go into dungeons, whack monsters, make sure your weapons don't break in the process, find magical bits that you use to rebuild the town that sits above the dungeon. Weapon upgrading is also a big part of both games; your weapons receive more improvements that your player character does. It works a little differently in 1 than in 2, so I'll explain that below.
Dark Cloud 1 is alright. Very rough, like you'd expect from a game very early into a console's life, but fun.
Weapon upgrading works like this:
-Killed monsters drop blue grains; gain enough and it levels up.
-Every level, you have between one to three (some weapons might have more?) slots that you fit a gem into to improve stats.
-Once stats improve enough, you can upgrade the weapon.
>Dark Cloud 2
Probably the better of the two; if you only play one, make it 2. Visually more polished, more optional content, like the Spheda game (golf played in dungeons, which will drive you up the absolute goddamn wall), fishing and fish raising/racing, building and customizing a robot that one of the player characters pilots, obtaining and upgrading monster transformations utilized by the other player character, photography, where you take pictures to get ideas that you combine to make weapons, healing items, robot parts, and a lot more.
Weapons upgrade in the following way:
-Killed monsters drop magic grains; grab enough grains to level it up
-Leveling up gives you Synth Points; a sort of currency that is expended when you bind a Spectrumized item to the weapon. Binding these to a weapon increases its stats and can grant status effects.
-Spectrumizing is where you take an item (a weapon, fish, food, building parts, anything really) and reduce it to its essence. The stronger the item was, the better the stat gains it will give, but the more Synth Points it will expend to bind.
-Once a weapon has gained enough levels & stats, it can be upgraded to a whole new type of weapon. Weapon upgrades can sometimes be a choice between two or more possible outcomes.
>Rogue Galaxy
Essentially a spiritual sequel to the Dark Cloud games. You see a lot of parallels; ARPG gameplay with a lot of oddball side content. Where Dark Cloud had Georama (the town building), Rogue Galaxy has the Factory. You use it to make items, but this isn't the typical lazy 'go to menu, smash item to other item, boom, done' thing usually found in crafting systems. The Factory is a physical space that must be populated with machines that break down different components into their essentials, and then combine them. Here's the catch; these mechanisms all take time to do this, and different amounts of time. For example, when working with metals, you need a smelter, a form presser, and a cooler to end up with the desired shape. You have to connect conveyor belts between these machines so that components all reach the combining mechanisms at the same time, and later recipes can get very complex.
Rogue Galaxy has weapon upgrading, but it's fairly simple when compared with Dark Cloud; you kill monsters with a weapon to 'season' it, like you'd season a cast iron pan through use. You then give two of the same class of weapon (pistol with pistol, dagger with dagger) to this mutated frog that travels with you, and if he things they go well together, he eats them up and spits out a new, more powerful weapon.
Rogue Galaxy also has:
Insectron
A cross between Pokemon and chess where you go out into the wild to capture bugs in cages, raise them, fight them, breed them, and then build a team for the Insectron matches.
Revelation Flow
Will feel VERY familiar to the License Board from FF12, although here it only bestows abilities and stat up, and does not control what weapons you can equip.
Bounties
Again, if you've played FF12, this will feel familiar. Go out, find powerful hidden bosses for extra rewards.
Actually, quite a lot of RG feels like FF12, even story elements. Though that's likely more because they both take inspiration, to put it diplomatically, from common sources.
dffde4 No.14488889
dffde4 No.14488890
373f7b No.14488907
>>14481776
DQ 1 and FF 1 should never be on the same list, as DQ1 was far better. Saga Frontier should be on that list.
2cafae No.14490464
>>14488907
DQ1:
-Solo quest
-No character development choices, beyond equipment.
-Have to use the menu to use stairs
-Constant treadmill of grinding so you're strong enough to grind elsewhere.
-Every dungeon looks the same
-Darkness mechanic is just tedious.
-Plot of defeat the dragon emperor, the extent of it being told to go defeat the dragon emperor.
FF1:
- Four character party, you get to choose composition.
- Can choose which spells your casters learn
- Can actually tell dungeons apart just by looking at them.
- Combat FAR more interesting with actual party dynamics and character classes.
- A bad spot of grindan around Elftown, but otherwise not too bad.
- Much better art for monsters (IMO)
- Actually memorable bosses.
- Not much of a plot, but at least they tried.
The fuck you talkin' about?
I love a good DQ1 run, but it's nowhere near what FF1 is. DQ3 or 4 compared to FF1 is a m uch better comparison.
2b7aea No.14490476
>>14482620
>Skies of Arcadia
Far and away the best JRPG of all time.
e1a6ff No.14490481
>>14490464
Well, FF1 was a clone of DQ3, so it's not a fair comparison or a valid one by any measure
5197ef No.14490492
>>14481761
THE WEABOO COMMUNITY
0431d1 No.14490534
>>14490481
To be fair DQ3 was more advanced than FF1, it had the ability to swap party members.
e5a337 No.14490577
>>14490481
>FF1 was a clone of DQ3
3a8361 No.14490583
>>14490464
>No character development choices, beyond equipment.
Technically what you name the character can affect your stats.
d0721f No.14490746
Just started Treasure of the Rudras. What am I in for?
7ff493 No.14490904
>>14487709
That's a good summary, anon. I like it.
I'll admit that I'm not a fan of weapon breaking in Dark Cloud games but I can't talk about it until I try it out for myself.
As for Rogue Galaxy, I played it recently. It's a little unusual but not necessarily a bad thing. The major gripe for me so far is how clunky the Factory is. I get the impression that it could be better with a mouse rather than a PS2 controller. That said though, Factory is interesting to mess around with and adding machines/hooking up with wires, it's unique.
b5ee27 No.14491217
>>14483261
>FFL3 instead of 1
>RS1 instead of MS and no RS2
m8 what are you thinking.
e1a6ff No.14491223
>>14490577
>Implying you can't copy an idea in development and release a watered down version of it first
a088ca No.14491282
>>14482550
>Every Dragon Quest
Two and nine are trash.
As is seven. Seriously. Fuck that game.
0431d1 No.14491752
>>14490746
All of history compressed into twelve or so hours.
f09aa5 No.14491806
>>14487172
MGQ Paradox is a fairly solid game. If it weren't for the tits everywhere you could play it without even thinking about the porn. The biggest problem is that for the system to shine, you need to grind, and you need to grind both hard and smart. It is less about the level and more about the jobs, and the game is decidedly stingy about job exp for far longer than it feels like it should be.
06ebb2 No.14492766
>>14490904
>I'll admit that I'm not a fan of weapon breaking in Dark Cloud games
I should probably have explained that a little further.
>In Dark Cloud 1
When weapons break, they're gone FOREVER. Never go into dungeons without lots of Weapon Repair Powers, and possibly Auto-Repair Powders in one of your three Active Item Slots. This becomes crucial in later dungeon levels where you will find that you've been benefited/impaired in some way. One of these ways is weapons breaking faster. These mutators are not randomized, thankfully; only certain levels have an effect, and it will always be the same, even across different playthroughs
>In Dark Cloud 2
When weapons break, you can't use them until you repair them, but they're not lost for good. They do lose a little of their maximum WHP (Weapon HP), so the next time they break, it will happen a little quicker. WHP is one of the stats that improves as you upgrade a weapon, so even if you've broken a weapon a few times, it's not a lost cause.
Rogue Galaxy does not have weapon durability.
531fac No.14493152
Isn't Rogue Galaxy the game that has the really hot girl who shits into a sock and throws it at the enemy for some kind of debuff poisoning attack?
06ebb2 No.14493189
>>14493152
>Isn't Rogue Galaxy the game that has the really hot girl who shits into a sock and throws it at the enemy for some kind of debuff poisoning attack?
Uhhh, no.
To get that ability, you have to use an item in Kisala's Revelation Flow (see >>14487709) called the Captain's Sock. The Captain is Captain Dorgengoa, Kisala's father.
c549a3 No.14493309
>>14493189
>No
>But here's how to get that thing you're talking about
???
c91cd8 No.14493527
I'd like to see an RPG where attacks are given verbose descriptions and minimal animations. Imagine a fight in the NES version of Final Fantasy I where a Fighter still walks forward a few steps and wags his sword around but, instead of a text box saying "ANON attacks. Critical hit." it says "ANON lunges forward at the IMP and cleaves its body straight down the middle. The IMP's body splits apart and its entrails spill on the ground like spaghetti. Its eyes are eternally glazed over in amazement and terror."
c1eba4 No.14493554
>>14493527
just like, play table top.
552906 No.14494231
>>14483261
>The Breath of Fire series
Except BoF6
>The Tales series
Doesn't that jump back and forth between shit and good a lot?
>Final Fantasy XII
You were right when you said nothing after 9
>>14487709
>Dark Cloud 2
Biggest flaw is the auto generated dungeons; just a couple rooms in and you'll already be tired of the area.
1ae1d6 No.14494276
>>14493527
Dwarf fortress?
9c87d3 No.14494333
>>14493527
Some MUDs do this.
0b3d16 No.14504662
Earthbound is still my favorite game to this day.
889ace No.14504749
How are the Persona games, anyway?
2edde4 No.14504827
>>14504749
1 is good, 2 part 1 and 2 part 2 are very good, and 3 and 4 can be either good or bad depending on how much of weeb you are and how well you can tolerate the dating/friend sim elements that make up 80% of the game. I haven't played 5 but I've heard it's basically the same as 3 and 4, but slightly better.
451e0d No.14509498
>>14481761
>Is there a definitive list of actually good JRPGs?
Sure here it is:
19fcbe No.14509542
>>14504662
thats a fuckin solid choice. for me its tied between earthbound and tales of phantastia, far as the SNES goes.
735145 No.14509550
>>14509542
no SNES rpgs ever did much for me. Was disappointed with chrono trigger, FF6 was the worst one I've played to completion, and earthbound while neat has better alternatives in battle system, style, and even in red hat striped t-shirt bike riding protagonists.
d65520 No.14509553
>>14481761
If you like Final Fantasy style games you deserve to be locked up in an insane asylum or gassed. It's like D&D without the sensible enemy placement, depth, tactics, interesting storylines. You mash 1 button for 200 hours in very slow combat and sometimes you select magic when there's a boss battle every 25 hours.
19fcbe No.14509565
>>14509550
was 6 the one with cecil or tera?
735145 No.14509569
>>14509565
terra
>>14509553
this posters looks like this
d65520 No.14509617
>>14509569
This is what I look like, fuccboi. Come at me.
d21eb8 No.14509687
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>>14493309
>Kisala's Revelation Flow
she just throws her dads sock at the enemy, people just say she shits in it because she pulls it out from her back.
Also, shes not that hot just typical J-Pop idol tier. Lilika, Norma Kissleigh, Johanna, and Angela Seas are far nicer to look at.
e14678 No.14509705
>>14509569
>>14509617
>those glasses
It all makes sense now.
af9ed0 No.14509855
>>14481761
Play Disgaea emulate it for PS2 or Flash Cart that shit for DS
def965 No.14509939
def965 No.14513637
>>14509498
Fuck off anti-Japanese D&C shill.
def965 No.14513639
>>14493527
Wouldn't that cause a big mess in a large fight though?
5a52f4 No.14513657
>>14493554
This is the answer to all problems with RPG vidya.
07fdee No.14513661
>>14509498
Nice bait, totally disingenuous, well done :^)
6d6e4d No.14513726
>>14483181
I would unironically and instantly buy a comfy gondola walking sim.
01a8e0 No.14513747
>All these Falcom recommendations
Good, good. Fuck NISA for taking over Ys 8.
c7a31b No.14513757
>>14481761
>a thread about good JRPG
>not a single post mentioning Lunatic Dawn series
Fucking Artdink should translate and release them on GoG.com. It's shame almost nobody played them.
25f9af No.14513766
>>14481761
I will be making a Kickstarter for Butt Citizen.
f55f45 No.14513794
786374 No.14514809
I just started Brave Soul. Pretty good for an H-JRPG. Only a few hours in, but I like it a lot more than Knights of Xentar and Cobra Mission.
531fac No.14515185
>>14509617
Not only do you have retarded opinions, but you're not even funny.
40ddbf No.14515260
>>14513757
That's a CRPG made in japan, not JRPG.
547fa7 No.14515562
>>14515260
That makes it a JCRPG.
ed1ed5 No.14515735
>>14515562
That makes no fucking sense. JRPGs aren't really RPGs, so why is an acutal CRPG from Japan a JCRPG? Fucking genre autists can never decide on sensical naming conventions.
d158f2 No.14515743
What's the longest sigle with RPG in ? I have in mind 'TMMORPG'
ed1ed5 No.14520319
>>14494231
>Dark Cloud 2
Never finished this when I was younger. A while back I emulated it and boy did I abuse the shit out of fast forward dungeons. I also couldn't help my self from save stating before the start of each spheda because it's time consuming to clear the dungeon again just for another chance and the RNG of the dungeons can really fuck you up. A few days after finishing the game, a remaster was added to the PlayStation store.
735145 No.14520336
>>14515735
its called a console rpg, not a jrpg.
e35b7a No.14520643
Is Radiata Stories considered to be "good"?
I loved how the towns people had their own schedule back then.
3a8361 No.14520675
>>14520643
Radiata Stories is very good. I've never played a game that did towns, or rather one town, as well as it.
1eb101 No.14520696
>>14481761
>>14483358
AJ is right you know
8be054 No.14521061
Chrono Trigger
Xenoblade 1 and maybe Xenogears
TWEWY
SMT (probably Strange Journey)
That's it
8be054 No.14521068
>>14521061
Also some Mario ones (Paper 2 and M&L1 mostly) and Undertale
531fac No.14521245
>>14520696
Nakamura is the gay community
093904 No.14521277
>>14520425
she smoked weed lol
0431d1 No.14521282
>>14520336
No, it's not, given that no one calls it that.
def965 No.14521305
>>14520336
Well it's true that Japan only has consoles but recently they've started coming to Steam so now they're on PC too. I don't know if sales have been good enough to continue that since apparently automata sold like shit (less than 1 mil) but there you go.
27b66a No.14522744
>>14521305
It sold enough to be profitable, that's all that matters.
735145 No.14522755
>>14521282
given that nobody knows what a jrpg is and its name is self contradictory you should start.
>>14521305
console rpgs can be on PC too. FF7 was released on PC in 1998. It refers to the style, not the platform. a computer rpg could also exist on console and I think there were some recent examples that were ported there.
27b66a No.14524677
>>14522755
>given that nobody knows what a jrpg is and its name is self contradictory you should start.
>jrpg
>RPG from Japan
How was that hard?
003937 No.14524796
Figured this might be the most appropriate place to mention this at present:
>Hello everyone.
>Finally, we're pleased to announce that Atelier Marie + Elie is released in English today
>This is a compilation of the original games "Atelier Marie" and "Atelier Elie". These are the first "Atelier" games from Gust, originally released in 1997 and 1998 on PSX. The PS2 compilation has improved graphics and a much better user interface than the PSX versions.
>We translated everything. All the texts and images have been translated and we subtitled the only voiced video on the fly. Moreover, ALL the official bugs are fixed and the Extra menus which hadn't been implemented in that compilation as well as the PSX Openings have been added by ourselves from scratch with the data from the original games. So, that translated compilation shouldn't have drawbacks anymore compared to the PSX versions.
>We tested 100% of the compilation on HDLoader, Open PS2 Loader and the emulator PCSX2, and it works without any problem.
>However, make sure to carefully read the readme and tutorial in the patch's archive before you play the compilation if you want the games to work properly.
>I'll let you enjoy the teaser of the translated compilation made by Zak Blayde at the bottom of the news
>The project finished, we have another Gust translation in English in progress: Ciel nosurge Offline for the PS Vita.
>The hacking is already almost finished, but the translation part will be really long. We will give more details on future news.
http://ateliertraduction.forumactif.org/t31-release-of-the-atelier-marie-elie-s-english-patch-on-ps2
735145 No.14524814
>>14524677
it just doesn't add up. Use console RPG.
59b514 No.14525151
>>14524796
Holy fuck, never thought these would be translated. Any idea how strict the time limit is and how obscure progression can be? If it's Rorona tier I'm not jumping in blind.
637b37 No.14525188
>>14515185
You're upset because you wasted all that time playing shitty games.
7f53b5 No.14525286
>>14524814
>JRPG combat
You're being intentionally retarded and I don't know why.
9e1c43 No.14525289
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>>14524796
i wanted the gba or the gbc versions
74d48a No.14525424
>>14483891
Phantasy Star 3 does this, but its a pretty shit game.
27b66a No.14526438
>>14524814
There are JRPGs not on console but there are no JRPGs not from Japan ergo JRPG.
7a7235 No.14526747
i'm ashamed to admit i was baited in to arguing whether earthbound was a jrpg or not at one point. arguing over definitions just hits my autism in all the right places but i feel dirty the next day
a7ba98 No.14526766
>>14524814
>>14484054
>Early JRPGs were just wizardry and ultima derivative.
You're entirely right. Most of japanese rpgs are based on western games before those acquired non-linear story progression elements and were all about party dice rolls.
dba0bc No.14527225
>>14484351
I wouldn't think that'd be the case since retards on /v/ spammed the desktop thread meme for a good decade out of pure memed spite for the game.
535837 No.14527667
>>14525289
These are sequels to the PSX Marie and Elie games, so it wouldn't make sense to have started with them.
535837 No.14527671
>>14525151
Marie is simple in all aspects, while Elie is a more complicated game with obscure requirements for several events and endings. Take that as you will.
dba0bc No.14528098
>>14527667
It's not like he knew that, he's just virtue signaling like a fucking moron.
27b66a No.14530745
>>14526766
JRPGs shot off into their own genre though.
43ea8e No.14530858
>>14482023
Wolfenstein 3D
Doom 1,2, Final Doom
Descent 1,2
System Shock 1,2
Heretic, Hexen
Marathon Trilogy
Duke Nukem 3D (pirate Megaton Edition and play it with eduke32), Shadow Warrior, Blood
Quake 1,2,3
Dark Forces, Dark Forces: Jedi Knight
Unreal, Unreal Tournament
Half-Life, Half-Life: OpFor
24b817 No.14531465
>FF1-10 (FF7 is especially good if you're an environmentalist/leftist like me)
>Star Ocean 1, 2, 10
>Suikoden 1,2,3
>Breathe of Fire 2, 3
>Wild Arms 1,2,3
>Digimon Adventure series
>Tales of X
>SMT, all of them.
>Mount and Blade
>The Fellowship of the Ring
>Harry Potter: Chamber of Secrets
735145 No.14531482
>>14525286
JRPG combat isn't a real thing, as dark souls is a JRPG as is final fantasy, as is panzer dragoon saga and SD snatcher, and I wish you luck in finding how these games have the same combat. Your position depends on it, otherwise you have no argument.
69eff9 No.14531485
>>14482714
And every other version is Japanese only.
217e9d No.14535645
>>14513757
This reminds me of Ultima.
4735a4 No.14535662
>>14481776
>SMT1/2/Nocturne/Strange Journey (original)/Soul Hackers/Digital Devil Saga/Persona 2/Persona 2 Part 2
The chad good SMT games poster
003937 No.14536103
>>14531485
>And every other version is Japanese only.
On the off chance you somehow aren't aware, the extended PS3 version's been fantranslated for a few years now, and PS3s themselves are less restrictive to CFW than they used to be (no longer requiring hard 3.55).
http://www.talesofvesperia.net
27b66a No.14541208
>>14536103
How' s the translation though?
a81c01 No.14541361
>>14483021
>and other games perform what it set out to do much better
Actually no other FF has both job class selection and those job classes being permanently set for the duration of the game, instead either having set jobs (or pseudo jobs) or a job system that allows for freely changing classes as often as the player wishes.
Job classes are great. Variable job class systems are overrated trash for casuals.
a81c01 No.14541368
>>14483038
BoF2 is completely nonsensical for 2/3rds of the game regardless of translation.
aba550 No.14541378
>>14541368
So are 3 and 4. In 3, everything before you leave Wyndia as a kid and before leaving the first continent as an adult is random ass filler, and in 4 pretty much everything Ryu does until the endless show up in person is just filler.
a81c01 No.14541418
>>14541378
I never played more than an hour of 3, though not because of disliking it, but due to not owning it an not investing time into going back to it. I got 4 from the PS store on my ps3 but never finished it. BoF1 and 2 are the only BoF games I have ever played to completion, and BoF1 is still my favorite, but that was mostly due to it being one of the first RPGs I played.
BoF2 is better in a lot of ways, but even if BoF1's story is retardedly simplistic, BoF2's story takes so long to get off the ground it's hard to keep interest. 4 suffered similarly in this aspect, and I found myself wishing I could play as Fou-lou for the entirety of the game.
aba550 No.14541450
>>14541418
>found myself wishing I could play as Fou-lou for the entirety of the game.
You and pretty much everyone else. You can choose to side with him at the end and the game ends with a final battle against your party.
27b66a No.14543936
>>14541361
>Job classes are great. Variable job class systems are overrated trash for casuals.
This.
003937 No.14544953
>>14541208
Pretty solid if you ask me. Seems like it borrows from the original 360 script for lines outright shared by both the 360 and PS3 JP scripts, and if memory serves, outside of typos the English 360 script wasn't noted as being bad (and I'm fairly sure the fan-translation fixed those typos). Obviously though there's plenty of newly translated text as the PS3 version added a lot of content, and due to the addition of Patty and Flynn to various areas, even the scripts in shared areas/scenes needed new translation here and there. Point being, I'm almost done playing through the PS3 version myself and it seems pretty competently handled, but it's also been years since I played the 360 version. It's more or less a hybrid translation: Reusing what worked prior, but combing over it for what needed fixes/new translation.
It should be noted though that there were some changes in the official English script made for use with the English dub to carry over effects, which don't work as English text + JP dub (which the fan-translation uses, between the PS3 version's audio being Japanese anyhow and there being a lot of lines that wouldn't have English voicing if the English dub had been patched in). Yeager, for example, throws occasional English works and lines into his normal moonspeak in the JP audio. Due to the other characters noting he speaks oddly (Judith speculating it's a language dead to the present world), this effect wouldn't be carried over to the English script left as-is. The official English script and dub changed those words/lines to German (complete with voiced German accent), fitting his character's name, to keep the effect intact. This creates a conundrum for the fan-translation as to how to handle it, as the screen-text and JP audio create a mismatch, but ultimately the official change was left to keep the effect of him feeling foreign to the cast.
Should also be noted that there is no text translation for lines that didn't have screen-text to begin with (barring perhaps FMVs as those can have the video files hard-subbed, but I forget if those had native subbing in the English 360 version as well). This means combat banter, spell incantations, win quotes, and level/skill ups are left as Japanese audio only.
>>14541418
BoF3 did finally make its way to the PSN out here, but for whatever reason Capcom only cleared the previously JP/PAL only PSP port to get up there as opposed the PS1 original, thus the PSN version of game is only usable with PSPs and Vitas.
3e33be No.14545503
>>14491282
What's wrong with 9?
And will we get 11 soon?
3e33be No.14545509
Shadow Hearts was neat for the combat. Localization was trash. I've read to skip Covenant, and go straight to From the New World.
aba550 No.14545514
>>14545509
>I've read to skip Covenant, and go straight to From the New World.
That's backwards. Play finish the first game, then play Covenant, skip New World unless you really like the series. It's not a bad game and is one of the best looking PS2 games (other being VP: Silmeria) but the story is a massive step down from the first two.
Also 1's voice acting is fucking old 4kids tier inadvertantly funny. The entire sea witch story segment is just fantastically awkwardly bad.
aba550 No.14545517
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>>14545514
>>14545514
Also some nice music.
3e33be No.14545526
>>14545514
Could you elaborate? I mean, beyond finding out what happens to Alice and Yuri after the first game, I only know that the game is crap.
Also, I would recommend the Evolution series, but I can't simply due to nostalgia for the sequel. I'm waiting for someone to undub the GameCube combo.
aba550 No.14545541
>>14545526
>I only know that the game is crap.
Anyone who told you Covenant is crap is either straight up retarded or lying.
3e33be No.14545547
>>14545541
Well? Can you tell me how it's not?
003937 No.14545610
>>14545517
Gondola version.
>>14545514
From the New World was always meant to be a side game, not the Shadow Hearts III Nautilus had wanted to make (while the western release of Shadow Hearts II dropped the numeral in favor of a subtitle, FtNW was "Shadow Hearts: From the New World" even in Japan rather than "Shadow Hearts III"). Unfortunately Aruze dissolved the team before they could make more games. I would expect that, had it been allowed to happen, it would have at least used FtNW's combat tweaks (a high point for that game) as a base at the very least, and perhaps been more back to the vibe of Covenant or even SH1 (given the game was apparently going to be a prequel).
>>14545547
Having played and loved the whole series, can you tell us why you have been led to assume Covenant is shit? I'm just asking since it's generally the best received amongst series fans (western ones, anyhow).
3e33be No.14545648
>>14545610
>Having played… the whole series
I haven't even finished the first yet. I didn't pick up this one key item to obtain the final summon, now I'm kicking myself in realization that I have to start all over from the beginning now.
>can you tell us why you have been led to assume Covenant is shit?
I don't think you'll get a proper answer by dodging my question, and making preempted accusations. All I want is for you and aba550 to lay out some key elements from the game that you think make it good, much like the Dark Cloud 2 anon that posted here before. Did you think that maybe I want you to change my mind?
003937 No.14545671
>>14545633
>>14545648
I am not dodging the question. I'm wanting to know why you have been led to think it is shit (what aspects, etc) in the first place, to better address specifics in detail. All you've done thus far is say "I've know it's shit" without speaking as to what you assume to know that would make it shit.
3e33be No.14545685
>>14545671
Then let me rephrase and say that I've only heard it was shit. That's all I know, and pulling the Kyle Hyde act on me isn't gonna help you villainize me further.
def965 No.14549931
>>14524814
No JRPG for any Japanese i.e. good RPG and WRPG for western ones makes perfect sense.
044e7b No.14550144
>mentions any Persona game that isn't 2
>gets automatically ridiculed
/thread
aba550 No.14550166
>>14550144
Q is fun but that's because EO is the only good jrpg series to start after 2000.
aba550 No.14550432
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>>14545648
>>14545685
If you liked the combat in the first game you will definitely think the second is an improvement. It adds shaped AOEs, positioning elements, combo attacks, several types of guarding, an extra character in battle, a ton of party members, customizable magic slots in all non-Harmonixer (monster fusion) characters. Game moves from prerendered backgrounds to full 3D, models get much better (as the original started as a PSX game). Story is slightly more serious but still manages to be funnier than the original man festival. Also it manages to avoid 99% of stereotypical JRPG tropes, especially in the second disc.
The third game is a mechanical improvement (stock gauges are better than positional combos) but the story and cast are not nearly as good.
50db3f No.14550438
>>14545648
>I didn't pick up this one key item to obtain the final summon
The game has a new game plus
>I only know that the game is crap.
It isn't? Where did you hear this? It's filled to the brim with content, it's well-acted, it's fun to play, it's got great characters.
Like, I have criticisms about Covenant, but I would still highly recommend it.
aba550 No.14550458
>>14545648
>I didn't pick up this one key item to obtain the final summon
That's a shame, the Seraphic Radiance scene is pretty much the game's emotional climax, if you don't get the bad/pretimeloop canon ending.
aba550 No.14550486
>>14550438
Anon might be totally retarded and be conflating Shadow Hearts 2 with Kingdom Hearts 2.
27b66a No.14556347
>>14550486
> be conflating Shadow Hearts 2 with Kingdom Hearts 2.
This.
aba550 No.14556367
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>>14556347
Bumping with best random battle theme.
aba550 No.14556373
>>14550438
>I have criticisms about Covenant
I'd like to hear them, actually.
50db3f No.14556446
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>>14556373
It's been fucking forever since I last played, so my memories on the exact problems are a little hazy, but…
>Party members lacked depth and were fairly superfluous to the plot, such as Lucia and Gepetto. Gepetto, especially, who is entirely sidelined once Roger Bacon shows up.
>Yuri has way too many fucking fusions, and you never use any of them, because Amon/Neo Amon is more than sufficient for the entire game.
>Kato makes for a terrible fucking final boss
I'd have to replay the game again to refresh my thoughts.
aba550 No.14556465
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>>14556446
>because Amon/Neo Amon
Honestly, if you want to break the game, you use the second Earth Fusion and the Spikes accessories, which makes you take 1 damage per hit as long as you have SP.
> makes for a terrible fucking final boss
I really disagree with this, but can understand why people would feel that way.
4c528f No.14556662
I'm here to help you OP:
>Tales of Series
>3D
Symphonia, Abyss, Vesperia. If you really liked those three and you're still hungry, go for Xillia. If you liked Xillia, Xillia 2 has better gameplay, but a shit story. Berseria if you still want more. Anything else is passable 3D wise
>2D
Phantasia, Eternia, Destiny I and Destiny II, anything else is passable. Hearts R is good if you can stomach the shit translation. Download the legendia OST and pretend you played it, because the OST is the only good thing.
>Final Fantasy series
Start with 1 so you appreciate the games' growth over the ages
Final Fantasy Dawn of Souls (GBA FFI and II remake)is a good way to play I and II
Then 4,5, 6. The DS remake of 4 has a more challenging difficulty and a more elaborate gameplay. You could stop here, but if you want more
7, 9, 10. are worth playing. 10 is fast turn based, and has lots of autism post content grind. X-2 has great gameplay but shit story. anything after this is not worth it. 7 and 9 have a slightly slow paced gameplay. Emulate them all for best experience.
If you're still hungry and liked the series, play III, II, 8 and 12. Don't bother with anything after 12.
>Dragon Quest
Play them all, they're all great. Your least priority is 7. Play mainline before any spinoffs.
>SNES RPGs
Chrono Trigger
Terranigma (ARPG)
Secret of Mana (ARPG) and Seiken Densetsu III
Live a Live
If you solely care about gameplay, and if you have the discipline not to spoil yourself the mantras, Treasure of the Rudras
7th Saga. Don't bother with mystic ark. I guess you can play it if you REALLY enjoyed 7th saga, but mystic ark is easy as fuck, on top of that a mess to go through (very cryptic on progressing through main story). You can skip mystic ark, but it has a fun gameplay and good ost. It's passable though.
Super Mario RPG
Lufia II: Rise of the sinistrals
The Jojo bizarre adventure SNES RPG (you can beat it in one afternoon)
Earthbound
illusion of gaia (ARPG)
Motherfucking E.V.O (ARPG)
Bahamut Lagoon
FF: Mystic Quest
SMT I and II (play II first, I is harder to digest)
>BoF
All except 6. You can stop at 4, really. 3 and 4 are best.
My little 2 cents.
b931fb No.14561096
Currently in Terranigma's endgame, is there a way to make the tourism girls talk beyond lacking information of other towns? Have expanded all the towns to max and give the photos to them.
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>>14487709
The factory in Rogue Galaxy was the most comfy experience I have ever had in a game and I wished there was more things to make in. I've tried games with similar mechanics, but they just don't scratch that itch.
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def965 No.14570037
>>14568944
I don't think it has a wiki.
c737e5 No.14572103
>there are people on here that play Tales Of games unironically
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71e6ed No.14574684
>>14574675
Anon they're shit.
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58f898 No.14574859
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>not a single mention of the absolute pinnacle of JRPGs
for shame
b81959 No.14574935
>>14574859
I still miss CBoyardee. I want him and shrekposting to come back.
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3e33be No.14580986
Hey, for DQVIII 3DS, what skillsets do you guys recommend for each character?
28f089 No.14581016
>>14574775
It's a very good game. One of Square's best.
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>>14524814
Ignoring the semantics, I'll say that Battle Chasers: Nightwar was a very good game in the genre. I played on PC, so I don't know about the PS4 or X-Bone versions.
66bb11 No.14593139
Why does the entire BoF series think its okay to forcibly change my party formations after every dialogue scene? That shit pisses me off.
52c99c No.14593227
>>14574935
Well, there's Barkley 2… It's coming out, right? There's been radio silence for a long time now. Does Boyardee even have a hand in this?
711523 No.14594765
Ys and Trails are really good, surprised they haven´t been mentioned.