/v/ - Video Games

Stealth is a meme genre.

<hurr waiting to do stuff is so much fun guise srsly

No wonder the genre is dead.

>>14480836

Great Tier: first three missions

Made me dump game tier: fourth mission

Great tier

>Assassins

>Lost City

>Caverns

Good tier

Bafford's Manor

The Sword

Mage's Tower

OK tier

Cragscleft Prison

Down in the Bonehoard

Return to the Cathedral

Into the Maws of Chaos

Not Good Tier

Undercover

Strange Bedfellows

Bad Tier

Haunted Cathedral

Escape!

Terrible Tier

Thieve's Guild

Thief 2 is the better game, but Thief 1 has better story and atmosphere.

The parts with actual thieving are good. The parts with zombies, floating fireballs, and giant lizards are shit.

>>14481003

That's what everyone thinks on their first time, but you'll start to appreciate the fantasy stuff and it'll grow on you. Those levels offers some nice change of gameplay that regular burglary missions don't have:

>Exotic and atmospheric locations

>Tomb Raider platforming, puzzles and traps

>Chance to hone your combat skills

>>14480951

>Thief 2 is the better game

No, it isn't. Some levels in Thief 1 might be bad (Escape!, Mage's Tower and Thieves' Guild) but there are also some great levels (Down in the Bonehoard, Cragscleft Prison, Lost City, Return to the Cathedral). On the contrary, the only level which stands out in Thief 2 is Life of the Party, the rest is just average or outright bad (Kidnap, Blood Trail, Trace the Courier).

>>14480915

but my instant gratification though

I used to lurk the TTLG forums way back when, but even then I couldn't really say what percentage of people preferred Dark Project/Gold to T2. I chose to play Thief2 first and subjectively I think it has the superior level design and gameplay to suit the actual thieving/sneaking opposed to the first game's more supernatural adventuring. But when playing it after the second game, it doesn't feel as fresh at all.

>Great-tier: all the missions you play as a thief

>shit tier: all the missions you play as Indiana Jones

>>14481094

>Return to the Cathedral

>Great

Yeah I sure do love having to kill a bunch of haunts with scarce materials in a small area along with a bunch of other undead.

I don't dislike assassination style missions, but Return to the Cathedral was garbage as one. A good assassination mission is something like Ulysses: Genesis in TDM.

T1 has a good story, but T2 is more consistently good as a game with only one really bad level being Kidnap.

>>14481092

>That's what everyone thinks on their first time

Nah, I loved it all right from the start. Guess I'm an outlier.

>>14480836

I'd say to rank the missions you have to say if it's a first playthrough or a second one, on a first playthrough I'd rank Return to the Cathedral as Great but on a replay Average.

>>14480915

I know it's bait, but Thief is the only stealth game where you spend minimal (10%) time jerking off in shadows, and most of the time running around in a giant maze being lost and accidentally bumping into guards. I mean fuck, you can even sprint right past guards in most scenarios (normal floor or carpet)

>>14482875

>I used to prefer 2 for its greater emphasis on actual thievery but over time I've come to prefer 1's weird/spooky missions.

Yeah it's definitely a grower. I think it's because when you fire up Thief 1 for the first time, you go in assuming it'll be pure stealth (Thief 2), but it is way more complex and experimental than that. I still can't stomach The Haunted Cathedral though

Best game, still playing fan missions. I'm such a fucking pussy though, I started playing deaths cold embrace fan mission and there's some real fucked up shit in the first level I had to quit and uninstall it.

>>14481092

>Chance to hone your combat skills

The only thing to learn is the overhead power attack and to bait and backstep enemy attacks (assuming they aren't a mage or magic-user). Combat is not a big thing in Thief, and is only really focused on outside of the missions with monsters when you severely fuck up.

>>14483990

Is that the one with the insane, mutilated, machine-human maid or am I thinking of something else?

>>14482875

There's only so many flash bombs.

>>14484521

Yeah, really fucked me up. I stopped playing, am afraid to encounter more fucked up shit along the way.

Return to the Cathedral is still the only time i've ever been afraid of playing a game. Those fucking haunts when they set after you, fuck, had to look up speed-runners doing the level, i just couldn't take it.

>>14487846

When did little girls start to post on /v/? The spooky atmosphere is top-notch but it isn't something that should cause you that much fear.

>>14489880

That's the soy generation for you.

>>14482875

Add Volta to the list.

I'm the one who recommended you Step Too far.

If you can add a "shit tier list" add anything made by "Sir taffsalot", he was a nice guy but his maps sucked, I found out in hindsight.

The Creep is a great "atmospheric" level.

>>14490221

>"Sir taffsalot"

I haven't been on the dark mod community a bunch, but I remember that dude was super active. There really should be a tier list or something separating the good from the bad. TBH I can't really play the dark mod. It's too fractured across the board in terms of quality, and this comes from a dude who prefers T1 over T2. That and all the assets in the game remind me of HD weapon skin mods you use to see on gamebanana where they're super high resolution but also so badly done that it's headache inducing.

If you haven't checked out the FM 'A Servant's Life' yet, be sure to do so.

>>14490221

I'm not the anon making it.

>>14489880

Good headphones make all the difference.