1894e2 No.14478827
Your buns will glow like the sun General! You know the drill by now.
Last thread we created:
>Spanking General
>Mushroom General
>Stanks General
>Dog General
>Pillbox General
>Anal Bleach General
>Cake General
Who else needs added?
Useful sites and downloads:
https://cncnet.org/ - Tiberian Dawn, Sun and Red Alert downloads as well as C&C MP fixes and patches. and Dawn of the Tiberian Age download so you can drive Stanks into pillboxes
http://www.massgate.org/ - World in Conflict MP fix
https://wz2100.net/ - Warzone 2100
To do:
>Create more Generals
>Expand knowledge of RTS games
>Play more games with anons
>Make a non-shit RTS chart
>Get more RTS downloads
Backup /vg/ thread:
>>>/vg/26519
8dad4a No.14478877
>>14478827
Dog posting best posting.
8dad4a No.14478902
>>14478827
>>14478877
Also I'll finally make a start on that non-shit chart later today, I'm thinking we should have one that covers RTS and RTT and a second chart for TBS and TBT (there's too much to get all four subgenres in one chart and not enough to make four satisfying chart before we even get into fringe cases). The only issue then would be how to classify the more hybrid games like Total War, Darkest Hour or Rule the Waves short of just making a third Grand Strategy/Misc chart and grouping them under that.
df32a9 No.14478909
Project Perfect Mod's a pretty decent place to look for some pretty dope mods. Moddb too, but PPM is usually kept more up-to-date by the modders. https://www.ppmsite.com/
Pic related is a GDI detainment center I built in Twisted Insurrection's Delta City map.
ad6d71 No.14478960
>>14478827
Lesser known but still great RTS. Check them out if you haven't, but we're in an RTS thread so you've probably heard of them.
>Warlords Battlecry 2/3
RTS with Hero unit. What makes it unique is the sheer volume of stuff. Warlords Battlecry 3 has a dozen races, a dozen domains of magic a mostly open world campaign and just in general the game has so much goodness. It is very rough around the edges, but if you like fun, this game can be a lot of fun. You can play a merchant who pays half price for all their units, an assassin with 25% chance to insta-kill 3 times a second, a mage who summons giant armies etc.
>Battle Realms + Winter of the Wolf
A Japanese flavoured RTS made in the west featuring four distinct factions. Unique to this RTS is its unit production, where peasants spawn over time (increased by the number of houses you build vs how many you already have) which you send into one of three production structures to train into a unit. Send a peasant into a Dojo, they become a Spearman, send a peasant into an Archery range, they become an Archer. But build on the back of that is the ability to train a unit twice. Sending a Spearman into an Archery Range (or Archer into a Dojo) produces a Dragon Warrior. It's a unique system that tickles the brain. Fighting generates a special resource used on upgrades or to recruit late game hero units.
That's without mentioning the campaign, one of the few where choices you make can actually influence the gameplay (mostly in which heroes join your faction). Well at least in the base game. Winter of the Wolf very optional.
>Swarm Assault
An insect RTS game. Take control of bases and order them to produce one of three types of units from that base, then order those units to capture the enemies base. Simple, good fun. Five different base types for a total of 15 different units. Getting it to work might be impossible, but if you get it to work its 100 levels of varying fun and challenge.
>Z
Sci-fi comedy RTS that features over the top graphics like guys getting exploded into the air. Largely another base control game but its humour is good, its challenge is mostly fair and it can be a blast watching the soldiers fight.
>Army Men RTS
It's another one of those early 3D RTS games with average pathing and clear influences from Command and Conquer, but it's still an entry worth listing that surprisingly few people know about. It's the Army Men series! Y'know, green plastic soldiers?
>Impossible Creatures
If you haven't actually played this game you are seriously missing out. It's a game about combining animals into super animals to act as your army. Whales with rhino horns. Vultures with scorpion tails. Lobster clawed hyenas. There's also at least one mod that pretty much doubles the number of monsters in it.
a8f3d9 No.14478962
>>14478960
Dark Swarves are best team and If you play fey you're automatically a fucking faggot
a8f3d9 No.14478964
>>14478962
>Dark Swarves
Dark Dwarves, fuck my life
ad6d71 No.14478971
>>14478960
Oh right. Because Swarm Assault is a long since dead game, here's a mega.
https://mega.nz/#!qaA3jJpJ!3mGiYhnvsegqjU0bwPZeFjLIKD4lMLelzlD_w5MQK5g
I haven't played it since Windows XP, but some fucker got it to instantly work on WINE. If anyone can figure out how to get it to run and to play at a playable speed, please respond.
I have been passing this thing from computer to computer for literal years and I don't want this ever to be lost.
It's only 8mb and its probably not a virus.
3fe36f No.14478985
Wish Rise of nations comabat was deeper, or more engaging at least. Not autistic levels of micro but better than what it is. What a comfy game to play, I love civ type games where you advance in age, RoN combined that with RTS. Wish they made a sequel or better yet I wish I had the brainpower and skill to make my own RoN sequel
>tfw
05f9bf No.14479006
>>14478985
Where is the follow up pic where the French dude gets robbed and raped by an ethnic and his bread gets stolen.
4c9068 No.14479140
ad6d71 No.14479185
>>14479140
Mechanically not great, but I wouldn't say bad.
e8a86f No.14479794
>>14479185
He's right though. I gave it a try some time ago and couldn't stand it past the 3rd-4th mission. It took me a fuckton of units just to take down one enemy jeep while the same fucking jeep could take down one of my tanks by itself, sometimes even more.
214823 No.14479802
>>14479241
Looks like a poor mans Company of Heroes and plays like a basic as fuck RTS aside from the Inf cover.
47ce3b No.14479816
>>14479802
did you also notice the grenade drops from dead grenade troops? grenades seem to be very strong
214823 No.14479829
>>14479816
I did
I also noticed the extremely low number of units and the mortar units.
47ce3b No.14479923
>>14479829
I think that's because masterofrolfness just sucks at RTS in general, the mortars seemed like it didn't really do much
4c9068 No.14480667
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>Developer namedrops DLC and monetization within the first fucking minute of the video
Hmmm
c13e9d No.14480718
>>14480667
>a game where strong singleplayer campaigns are more important than DLC´s and long-term monetization opportunities
Sounds good to me, don´t know what you are bitching about
4c9068 No.14480726
>>14480718
I'm not. I said they namedropped it, as in poking fun at kikes.
fb312c No.14480731
>>14478827
>starting RTS thread with degeneracy
Kill yourself nigger.
99205c No.14480877
Has anyone played Syrian Warfare? Might be RTT more than RTS. Couldn't get into it the first time I tried it, but the second time everything clicked and its heaps of fun. Until the "rescue the pilot" mission which is just tedious. It triggers good goyim and rewards tactical gameplay. You keep your surviving units between missions and they gain veterancy. Supposedly mod tools are coming soon. I want to add Assad in a helicopter dropping chemical barrel bombs on bakery-hospitals full of children.
345fde No.14480886
>>14480731
Spank the gay away
>>14480877
>Might be RTT more than RTS
>might be
Nigger there's barely any base building in that game.
> Supposedly mod tools are coming soon
Nice
38f454 No.14480895
>>14480877
I liked it it was pretty fun.
7812e9 No.14480928
So some threads ago I was posting about this idea I was toying around with to set notC&C4 during the Napoleonic wars, but with tech that would span from their own age all the way to twenty minutes into the future. Now, assuming that the Japanese faction is dropped for the Aztec one (which I am growing fond of because it would be visually appealing and easy to tell apart, a la huge Yuri head and conscript statues), and assuming that the other two battalions are the Entente and the Britbong Coalition, what kind of units would best fit each? Is there some gimmick not explored in previous titles that you'd rather see more of?
1e169f No.14481091
DTA LOBBY IS FUCKING EMPTY
WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE VIDEO GAMES?
GIVE ME AN OPPONENT
fa2b7e No.14481130
>>14481091
>fanatics
I can't get over how worthless they are in Kane's Wrath
Well maybe they were useless in Vanilla too but they at least seemed efficient enough in Nod's first mission
1e169f No.14481152
>>14481130
It's more on how easy it is to kill infantry in KW VS how much they cost what makes them as useless as they are. Shadow Teams with their Detpacks fufill their purpose along with being able to get away or infiltrate a base that lacks AA.
47ce3b No.14481167
>>14481130
>a tier 2 unit that costs £700 which does 800 damge per dude in a 5 man squad
yeah they're worthless
ba8b8a No.14481504
>>14478960
I'd say you raised the bar if you posted download links.
ba8b8a No.14481593
Because I'm a lazy faggot, I'm not gonna do what the other anon did and just post cover, screenshots and download link. It's up to you to add this shit to your backlog and check it out
especially that I expect all I post to be added into the actually good, non-cuckchenned list of RTSes mentioned in the OP and many titles I post are recent discoveries for me
http://www.old-games.com/download/6734/outlive
http://www.theisozone.com/downloads/pc/windows-games/final-odyssey-ripiso-starcraft-clone/
1894e2 No.14481594
>>14478877
Dog are best scouts.
>>14478902
>Making a non-shit RTS chart
You absolute madman do it
>>14478909
I remember when that site was absolute shit. It's slowly grew into a decent resource over time.
>>14478960
Are you the anon from last thread posting obscure RTS?
>>14478971
Thanks for the Mega anon, I hope it's dolphin porn.
>>14478985
Ever tried Rise of Legends?
>>14479241
I had to shut that down immediately since the guy sounded like a faggot.
>>14480731
>I lost to Butthurt General, the post
>>14480928
So Mental Omega?
>>14481152
I think a few people got butthurt over infantry rushes hence the easy to kill infantry.
c52a78 No.14481609
>>14478960
>did not mention battlecry 1
Battlecry one is the only one in that series with a proper single player story campaign so it's worth a look. 2 is a dark crusade conquer the map one territory at a time deal. 3 reuses the map from 2 but has more of a roving adventure vibe with a hacked together story. 3 ended the series with a total of 16 races. Also in spite of being fairly generic it's got some metal as fuck artwork.
cfab9d No.14481616
>>14479241
also Polls that i found on Facebook
f0bf6d No.14481625
TA Spring - free with physics
men of war
call to arms - free on steam with physics
gates of hell coming soon
ad6d71 No.14481632
>>14481504
I posted one. >>14478971
The rest you'll have to acquire on your own. You can usually get torrents for them pretty easy, but you can also get them all between Steam and GoG if you prefer that path. There is an open source version of Z called the Zod Engine.
>>14481594
>Are you the anon from last thread
I don't think so. I just wanted to share some of the games I love and bring some talking points. Also keeping Swarm Assault alive.
>>14481616
>Cover system
I actually don't like this.
1894e2 No.14481636
>>14481619
>>14481616
You know I was expecting cancer. I was pleasantly surprised. Nice to know that there are faggots out there that understand that SP>MP in the RTS genre whether they will listen to polls is another matter
e074f5 No.14481637
>>14481609
Daemons best race.
b7823a No.14481643
>>14481609
I never got into Battelcry.
I still like to play Warlords 3 - Darklord Rising with Stonehelm and K4 Units and even sometimes 1 and 2 though.
c52a78 No.14481644
>>14481632
>I don't like this
May I ask why? It was very novel in dawn of war. Being able to blast craters into the map for units to take cover in would be nice.
>>14481637
Daemon paladin. Though there is a special place for fey drowning the world in spriggan dick after researching a bunch of bonus xp for new recruits.
b7823a No.14481647
>>14481643
Stormheim…. man, what is with my brain today.
c52a78 No.14481653
>>14481643
Grew up with 1, never finished 3 because reasons. 4 was just recycled battlecry assets and tears.
1894e2 No.14481655
>>14481632
>Also keeping Swarm Assault alive.
If Swarm Assault works I'll add it to OP next time.
ad6d71 No.14481659
>>14481609
Unfortunately anon I never played Warlords Battlecry 1 or 2. Funnily enough, I only played 3 because I had a physical copy, one of the broken ones where ranged units would always shoot in the same spot instead having varying aim, meaning if you were next to a tower and it missed you, it would perpetually miss you until you moved, and troll rings were the only item that randomly dropped. I had to download a patch. Those were the days.
e074f5 No.14481661
>>14481644
I prefer the "summoners summoning daemons summoning imps" technique.
c52a78 No.14481687
>>14481661
Undead were the best, best voice acting too when upgrading your skellies into doom knights.
>>14481659
Shame they never had a patch that made archer units useful. Elven moonguard was easily the most shit general in the whole game. Forest lord was also the most shit titan due to being a bow user as well.
1894e2 No.14481714
ad6d71 No.14481721
>>14481687
They should have just inflated archers combat so they crit a lot.
e60df8 No.14481726
You know what was really neat? cnc3 Tibwars having different AI personalities. As one site put it…
Balanced AI - Your normal AI that mixes defense, expanding bases, and assaults equally. Quite challenging and will fight until the bitter end. Medium Base defenses.
Turtle AI - An AI that will focus on fortifying its base and will also expand quickly to fortify those positions as well, while building a massive army in their base. Turtles can be difficult if not taken out quickly, as their assaults are huge and ultimately deadly. Heavy Base defenses.
Rusher AI - This AI will send in low tier units in very early in battle and continue with low tier assaults, eventually sending in tougher high tier units. Rushers tend to use their resources to build quick light assaults to batter your base down to size. Little Base defenses.
Geurilla AI - The adaptable AI, Geurilla AI will send in low tier suicide assaults to figure out your bases units and defenses, and will build accordingly to defeat it. Sometimes in their suicide runs, they'll sneak an Engineer to capture your buildings and use your technology against you. Geurilla AI is the most challenging for Single Play and is a dangerous foe to battle. Medium Base defenses.
Steamroller AI - Steamroller AI will always either send in constant assaults or low and high tier units, or will quickly basebuild up to their superweapon to send in high tier units very early in game. If you don't take this AI out quickly, you'll find yourself in a frantic defense against large amounts of high tier units and getting blasted by their superweapons. Little Base defenses.
>Not a day goes by where I don't wish they had put just a little bit more effort into this game which could have easily been a timeless classic like its predecessors
ba8b8a No.14481727
47ce3b No.14481736
>>14481726
that's nothing new
1894e2 No.14481754
>>14481726
The only real issue with C&C3 is that the feeling was off, I'd say there wasn't enough weight to the units. It actually isn't a bad game when you go back and play it and there's plenty of fun stuff to do. Units just don't have much personality to them and nothing seems to have that oomph to it. Artstyle is another factor but that has been debated to hell and back.
>>14481727
It's basically a mod of MegaGlest. It's gameplay is a bit dated but if you are used to Tiberian Sun or Red Alert 2 you should be in comfortable territory. Think there is a mod that adds a new faction for it as well.
e60df8 No.14481758
>>14481736
There hasn't been much new it RTS in a looooooong time. I just find it disappointing that more RTS games don't have more varied AI personality options beyond easy, medium, hard and cheating.
Hell even warlords battlecry 2 and 3 had specialized AI's for the different races.
1894e2 No.14481770
>>14481758
I think the last properly good RTS I can think of was R.U.S.E. which was criminally underrated but suffered due to a lack of both map and modding support.
47ce3b No.14481771
>>14481758
I don't know about that, I'd argue that a fun RTS hasn't come out in a long time
e60df8 No.14481778
>>14481754
My problem wasn't so much with the art or the units felling like they packed a punch. So much as it was EA bailing out early without getting the balance right and fixing things like fanatics being useless. They were doing better with kanes wrath but they never did quite get things just right and even managed to patch-fuck their own AI to death with their retarded balance catering to e-sport faggots.
ad6d71 No.14481789
>>14481754
Infantry look like get just hosed down because its a squad now instead of one guy. It's probably more realistic, but its not fun, especially after Tiberium Sun where things had big health bars and RA2 where there were really good infantry units. They go splat real quick even compared to Generals.
e60df8 No.14481792
>>14481771
Fun RTS games don't get made because DOTA poisoned the well for the genre. But again this is nothing new and for the most part these threads are more about reminiscing than anything.
1894e2 No.14481799
>>14481778
Remember it's all about getting into that e-sports pie :^)
>>14481789
Might be the fact everything was so fast as well. Some infantry units moved like they were on cocaine.
>>14481792
They all look sad.
47ce3b No.14481813
>>14481792
nah it wasn't dota, it was starcraft2 that opened it up to getting poisoned from other kinda cancers
ad6d71 No.14481816
>>14481792
Dota and Starcraft, anon.
The idea that every RTS had to be esports also killed the genre, when the RTS games that were seen as esports only got there because they had excellent campaigns and gameplay that people loved to play in the first place, and had a desire to test their skills against each other.
If you don't have a good campaign, you don't have single player appeal (or a decent tutorial, which is what a campaign can also be used for), and if you don't have good gameplay there's no appeal to play the game past the campaign.
644666 No.14481862
>>14481816
>esports also killed the genre
Is there anything it doesn't kill? Quality/Fun gaming and "pro" sports just do not fucking mix. I mean how many more games have to fucking die before they stop chasing this garbage.
e60df8 No.14481863
>>14481799
>They all look sad.
Sad but fashionable. Also wtf were the game designers thinking when they made upgrading the avatar require sacrificing other expensive ass units? I mean wtf? You are already wasting time doing micro on other things and now you've both wasted your time and made your expensive unit only marginally more useful and a lot more costly.
>Remember it's all about getting into that e-sports pie :^)
LOOK OUT CONSUMER! {game x} is going to be the next dota/starcraft/moba killer!
>>14481816
The dichotomy between supcom1 and 2 is a good illustration of how that kind of pandering can ruin a game. Literally all they had to do was remake the first game with better graphics and more units and people would have been happy.
47ce3b No.14481893
>>14481863
they thought they had a cool idea that could be an interesting mechanic only for it to turn out to be useless and silly
cfab9d No.14481911
I just realized now that the Nod Announcer has the same voice actor as a Jedi Master (Forgot the name) in KOTOR II
e60df8 No.14481925
>>14481893
Indeed. Most of the mods out there usually scrap it in favor of a pay to upgrade mechanic. It almost could have worked if they had either streamlined the process (like combining buzzers with scrin vehicles) and/or given you more for the sacrifice (like additional HP or dmg).
cfab9d No.14481930
>>14481917
>>14481911
Actually i fuck up the announcer From Command and Conquer 3: Tibrium Wars same va of the jedi master in KOTOR II
1894e2 No.14481933
>>14481925
If it was salvaging wrecks it would have made more sense.
1e169f No.14481947
I STILL HAVEN'T GOT A SINGLE GODDAMN MATCH IN D T A THAT DOESN'T IMMEDIATLY END IN THE FIRST ROUND AFTER THE OPPONENT IS UNABLE TO TAKE 20 TANKS BEING SHOVED UP HIS ASS
GIVE
ME
AN
OPPONENT
1894e2 No.14482007
>>14481947
Stanks stands for Stealth Tanks anon, not Suppository Tanks.
1e169f No.14482039
>>14482007
I WILL RAM 40 STANKS UP A PILLBOX'S ASS AND IT WILL LIKE IT OR DIE TRYING
1894e2 No.14482045
>>14482039
Pillboxes have no anus. They cannot be taken by surprise buttsex.
1e169f No.14482057
>>14482045
THEY WILL HAVE ONE AFTER I'M DONE WITH THEM
ad6d71 No.14482065
>>14481862
esports isn't inherently bad.
It generates competition, gathers communities, adds stakes, gives purpose in a way.
But making a game in pursuit of esports is very bad.
>>14482039
>Fire greater than water
Anon I don't think you got your symbols correct.
1894e2 No.14482080
>>14482057
Or when you lose 40 Stanks?
b7823a No.14482091
>>14482065
–your head–
–the joke–
2d6dca No.14482092
>>14482065
Only that purpose is either a cash prize or a shiney bunch of pixels next to ones name or avatar. Competitiveness can exist outside of an esport game, as can communities and even stakes. Its just that trinkets and money bring it faster, but without a regard to fun.
e60df8 No.14482098
>>14482034
Remember the good ol' days when sneaking aspy into an enemy barracks/warfactory made your units get built with vetrenacy? When infiltrating a radar structure reset the fog? When infiltrating a refinery stole credits? When getting an engineer into an enemy tech center gave you unlockable units that used stolen tech?
Pepperidge farms remembers.
2d6dca No.14482103
>>14482098
>something thats tactical instead of a tank blob or gook click apm bullshit
Sorry, too interesting.
b10169 No.14482107
>>14482039
Someone post the webm, I could use a quick laugh
47ce3b No.14482109
>>14482098
it was a neat concept, I just wish it was expanded more
df32a9 No.14482134
>>14481653
>Lord Bane
Are you familiar with D&D or are you baneposting?
47ce3b No.14482138
>>14482121
I saw a video of those, why is everything in fucking mental omega some kinda shit that does more then one thing? specially the mery sue donut steel faction
cc11f6 No.14482139
>>14482080
He can't lose those stanks because Kane killed everyone involved in their production and destroyed the blueprints after argentinacrawler98k's show
e60df8 No.14482144
>>14482139
>Stealth Tanks were a mistake
>t. Bald space alien
ad6d71 No.14482146
>>14482092
I largely agree with what you're saying, I've just found that in this digital age it is substantially easier to connect, communicate and share, and esports is an easy way to amass a large crowd to a single sitting.
Everyone gets to see tricks, share tech and try out new metagame strategies and tactics while testing their skills. It educates the less-good players and can help push the boundaries of the game wider.
b7823a No.14482151
>>14482134
In the Context of our conversation Lord Bane is one of the Four Horsemen in the Warlords Series.
Forgotten Realms Bane and Batman Bane are only slightly related I think.
df32a9 No.14482162
>>14482039
You do realize that the investment goes down the drain if someone wises up and uses walls+rocket infantry in their defense, right?
1894e2 No.14482166
>>14482107
Enjoy.
>>14482109
There's some of it in Tiberian Dawn if I recall though it's more a case of gaining access to units that were meant to be available to a faction but are locked. Also it depends on the game version.
For example Nod had to acquire GDI tech to produce Apaches and SSM's.
If Nod or GDI caps each others factories the following units became crossfaction:
>APC's
>Light Tanks
>Medium Tanks
>MLRS
1e169f No.14482171
>>14482107
can't find the shortened version only including the stank failiure but at least i've got this
I STILL HAVE NO OPPONENT IN DTA
WHY DOES NO ONE WANT TO PLAY VIDEO GAMES?
I CAN'T MEME WITH STANKS IF THERE'S NO ONE WHO CAN SPAM PILLBOXES
1894e2 No.14482183
>>14482139
He actually had to escape his country due to Kane's Wrath.
>>14482171
If I wasn't about to sleep I would be up for it.
1894e2 No.14482212
>>14482184
Counterstrike also had an interesting bug that if you played Paradox Equation then quit out and played Skirmish all the altered unit states would be in skirmish i.e. Light Tanks turned into Heavy Tanks, Heavy Tanks turning into Tesla Tanks etc.
ad6d71 No.14482213
I actually think that the camo pillbox is a great design point. It's pseudo stealth that rewards attentive players.
>Can't be seen on radar
>Automated commands like attack-move don't aggro against it
>Somewhat blends in with its environment
More units should utilize this in RTS games.
1894e2 No.14482228
>>14482213
>queue crying Stanks in corner when they are seen by a pillbox they can't see.
606cd5 No.14482245
Someone should draw Stank-chan getting spanked by Pillbox-chan
e9a51a No.14482249
>>14482166
Wrong.
In Multiplayer Nod had APCs, MLRS, and Chinooks for balance reasons. You didn't need to crosscap for them, and Apaches came with the Airpad for Nod and the SSM was unlocked with a comm center and an obelisk.
1e169f No.14482277
>>14482249
>Nod had GDI's MRLS for balance reasons
I never understood that in MP. GDI doesn't get an artillery unit but after they get the Tech3 Advanced Comms which has the Airstrike and Ion Cannon Support Powers and MRLS design. Meanwhile Nod has Flame tanks, Artillery, Stealth Tanks, Obelisk and better infantry by just getting their standard Tech2 Radar and it gets worse once they build an Obelisk because the SSM outranges everything and one-shots MRLS and other artilleries.
Medium tanks suck dick vs swarms of Light Tanks in a cost-efficiency manner and Mammoths aren't worth it even if they only require a Repair Pad to be built, the only advantage GDI had was the fact that they had that ridiculeously powerful engi+APC rush but even Nod gets them that too in MP.
1894e2 No.14482283
>>14482249
Actually I was calling stuff that could be built from a facility that normally shouldn't be.
Nod could call in stuff like Medium Tanks from Airstrips since in early versions of the game Nod actually could build Medium Tanks. GDI could build Light Tanks from the Factory. SSM's were not buildable in PC version Singleplayer but could be built funny enough in the console versions.
4c9068 No.14482742
>>14481754
>Units just don't have much personality to them and nothing seems to have that oomph to it.
Fucking what? Every single unit has its own voice and personality, while everything before RA2 was the same 3-4 voices with like 7 lines each for every unit.
Also many units do pack a lot of punch to them. You'd be surprised at how much detail has been put into sound design and animations.
267a81 No.14483297
>>14482742
I agree with that anon, though. Like, they had "personality" that was distinctive - but it all felt too generic.
47ce3b No.14484448
>>14482212
never played counterstrike tbh
dd302f No.14484551
GODDAMN THIS IS THE FUCKING PUMPKIN RTS I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR FOR YEARS
http://www.theisozone.com/downloads/pc/windows-games/rising-lands-1997/
e9a51a No.14484627
>>14484551
the hell kind of kraut autism shitfest is this
are you also the ordinatung autism kraut from the last thread
67fc32 No.14484652
>>14484627
>Kraut
It says on the box that it's from the Netherlands though.
e9a51a No.14484655
>>14484652
I'm sorry my Flemish friend. In my haste, I did not read the box carefully.
dd302f No.14484707
>>14484627
I just copied the first thing from mobygames
and it's a cute RTS I played back in the day
c1463f No.14484716
>>14478960
>Swarm Assault
Oh man i played this as a kid and it was great
c1463f No.14484721
>>14479241
This looks like CoH mod
a05c2d No.14484741
Alex Jones is my favorite Nod commander.
47ce3b No.14484754
>>14484741
sounds massively forced tbh
9d4451 No.14484830
>>14484754
That's because it is
e9a51a No.14484832
>>14484707
Is it good? Did it have mulitiplayer?
72632a No.14484858
Anyone played Forged Battalion?
47ce3b No.14484927
>>14484830
I'm not surprised tbh
dd302f No.14485119
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>>14484832
>Is it good?
I enjoyed it. And it's good enough for people or at least that on emadman to care as much for it to make a patch that makes it run on modern systems.
>Did it have mulitiplayer?
it did, but I'd bet it's IPX-based.
e9a51a No.14485125
>>14485119
Well if it has LAN capability then you can use a tunnler like Evolve or Hamachi
4c9068 No.14485128
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>>14483297
Generic how? They all had their own identity and you could point out each one just by hearing one line. They had specific quotes for being selected, quotes for moving, quotes for attacking when out of range, quotes for attacking when in range, quotes for being selected while in combat, quotes for when they're ordered to retreat, quotes that they themselves say when fighting enemies, quotes for abilities, quotes for dying, and a bunch of other shit. Are you telling me you didn't remember a single one of them?
The by-the-book riflemen?
The coffee addict Pitbull drivers?
The supervillain Black Hand troopers?
The paranoid Stealth Tank drivers?
The pompous as fuck Mammoth Tanks?
The literal priests-turned-field colonel Confessors?
The cocky Juggernauts?
The psychopatic arsonist Flame Tank drivers?
The bad-joker grenadiers?
The deluded tiberium-obsessive Nod harvester drivers?
The creepy Nod Saboteurs?
The arrogant, greedy Avatars?
The GDI Commando in general?
Hell, the GDI Sniper Team is the biggest example of how much work they put into it. It's a unit composed of just 2 dudes, a marksman and a spotter. Each one has his own lines for everything I've mentioned above; the guy with the rifle is cool composed, but starts losing his patience when under attack. If he dies and the spotter is the only one left in the squad, the unit's quotes are entirely replaced with his voice, where he sounds scared and shaken from seeing his friend die in combat. That's 2 units' worth of voice acting for 1 unit, and it's not even that much used.
And let's not even get into the sound design they made for the Scrin units.
7812e9 No.14485233
>>14481594
>So Mental Omega?
I don't think I would want to add more than 3-4 super powers total, but I was thinking of adding weapons and buildings that looked like stylized versions of your typical Victorian-age and Aztec shit, yet with some tacticool and modern age twist to them, so for example, the conscript unit for the Aztecs would come out of giant stone heads, armored Redcoats, maybe the French could pilot some early historical tanks, shit like that.
63a5ea No.14485238
>>14485128
TS/FS will always be my favorite C&C game but tib wars & kane's wrath doesn't get enough appreciation I'd say. It just felt rushed in some ways, missing content that feels like it should've had from the start [spoiler]haha oh wait EA was in charge of it just like tiberian sun of course they rushed it out with half the content missing
0b4828 No.14485249
>>14485238
>[spoiler]
You have to go back
63a5ea No.14485269
>>14485249
Post went through too early and I didn't notice. Oh well! I'm retarded, what can you do
63a5ea No.14485278
>>14485269
>>14485264
thanks for fucking up my posts as well
4c9068 No.14485285
>>14485238
People give Tiberium Wars/Kane's Wrath shit solely for the fact that EA published it, despite the fact that EA has published every single C&C game except Tiberian Dawn.
People also seem to forget that C&C 3 had Westwood developers in it, and were also the same dev team who've made Zero Hour, which is why it still turned out so good even with EA's kikery.
>>14485274
>Trying too hard to be RA2/Generals
RA2 and Generals weren't even made by Westwood anyway.
I feel you're just trying to grasp at straws looking for a reason to hate on the game, dude.
4c9068 No.14485287
>>14485274
By the way
>it's out of place in a super serious setting that's Tiberium
C&C 3 had the most serious atmosphere in a C&C game since Tiberian Sun.
e9a51a No.14485322
>>14485285
RA2 was made by Westwood, but they were owned by EA at the time.
4c9068 No.14485358
>>14485322
>>14485335
The people who made RA2 were originally called Burst Studios. They were bought from Virgin Interactive by EA along with the actual Westwood studios and were renamed into Westwood Pacific before developing the game, while the actual Westwood studio only helped in in some minor parts of development. Then they were both merged together and became EA Pacific, which was then merged with EALA, who, all together, developed C&C 3.
>>14485335
>they gave a personality to everything when in actual should have been fairly monotone and beak
Tiberian Dawn was far from monotone and bleak with its funky music and unit screams, doesn't mean it was bad. It was just that Westwood decided to make Tiberian Sun a bleak game on itself, rather than making the rest of the series bleak from then on. Still, the ones that remained kept the bleak atmosphere around, which you would certainly notice when playing it.
Or are you saying having the same 3-4 voices saying the same yes sir/you got it/on my way/acknowledged lines over and over again for every single unit?
9ed0cf No.14485379
>>14485341
>>14485335
None of the units in tibsun were "monotone" save for cyborgs. You oughta get your ears checked.
4c9068 No.14485442
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>>14485389
Does this look bleak to you?
>Tiberian dawn is still portrayed as serious, it's almost something like naive as well.
And C&C 3 isn't? That'd pretty cherrypicky.
4c9068 No.14485454
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>>14485389
>>14485442
>Does this look bleak to you?
Meant to post this video
15a1ee No.14485456
>>14481947
When would you like to play, anon?
4c9068 No.14485543
>>14485478
>This piece of evidence made by Westwood themselves which debunks the theory that every game set in the Tiberium universe should be 100% bleak and dark like Tiberian Sun, and even doesn't look all that different from Tiberium Wars, doesn't count
Ok.
63a5ea No.14485603
>>14485579
The blue & yellow zones in the game, especially the city maps felt pretty bland but once you get into the red zones with those sweet as fuck glaciers you finally get the good stuff you want out of the game. Firestorm's heavy use of tiberium flora and lifeforms was so damn aesthetic that it was the only thing I wanted more of in C&C 3. Too bad they didn't really give us much of that
4c9068 No.14485618
>>14485579
>>14485586
>>14485612
If I really must educate you on this, a bleak setting doesn't have to blot out the fucking Sun and make everything dark to be bleak. Bleak and grimdark are two different things.
bd8d01 No.14485623
For the sake of interest/datamining, what is your favorite mission type in RTS games?
I always liked those where your initial starting location was overrun by a vastly superior force, but the game gave you the means to smuggle away some of your construction units, rebuild elsewhere, and take back your home invade the invaders right back.
47ce3b No.14485632
>>14485618
>posts more images of maps with a primary colours over the topping everything else
yes that's exactly my point.
4c9068 No.14485649
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>>14485634
Man, such a bright sunny day in this lil Red Zone huh? Such a nice neighborhood to take a stroll around; Tiberium glaciers eating up buildings, that sweet air pumped with so much Tib particulate that it turned green, thunderstorms around the clock…
4c5887 No.14485652
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>>14485623
==Hold the line=
I like defensive missions, ones where some defenses have already been built but you need to build the rest. Getting rid of the opponent is probably a secondary objective in that you only need to defend the place long enough.
4c5887 No.14485656
>>14485652
Hold the line
One day while I'm not sleep deprived I'll get it right.
4c9068 No.14485663
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>>14485649
Just listen to these calm, welcoming tunes from the Tiberium wastelands! Such a nice ambience to live in, right?
Oh but naaah, it's not "Tiberian Sun" enough, so it's baaad.
Gimme a fucking break dude.
1e169f No.14485701
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>>14485623
>Best mission type
Start you out in a place with moderate/low resources but enough to get you an army and enough intel and terrain opportunities to have choice between many ways on how to take on your enemy's stronghold. Think Nod mission 4 on Tiberian Sun, where you're given many ways on how to assault the fortifications surrounding Hassan's temple.
>Worst mission type
<"Hey, you know that highly guarded base in the middle of bumfuck nowhere that's incredibly important to take out? How about we send you in with just some infantry, an engineer or maybe a couple tanks. Good luck if you find anything useful in a sea of instakill turrets, snipers and artillery fire"
bde796 No.14485708
Please stop this autistic argument.
63a5ea No.14485712
>>14485623
Scarce resources & overwhelming odds with constant barrage of units from the enemy is the tightest shit. Usually not seen too much in official maps but its not uncommon to find some player made stuff which is hell bent on being disgustingly unfair and punishing in this fashion.
1e169f No.14485714
>>14485708
I've told fags to stop replying to Wolfspider's bullshit since forever but it seems like nobody's wise enough to ID filter the fucking autist.
4c9068 No.14485716
>>14485695
>bland and over the top with units that are quirky that ham it up
What's even your point? You're just being so general in these criticisms that they don't actually carry any point.
You call Tib Wars bland while most of Tiberian Sun's maps are fucking brown, and sometimes white, as if it weren't color washed (which is what you usually do when you want a bleak setting and not a colorful carnival of a game).
47ce3b No.14485724
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>>14485708
>
>>14485716
dude Tib sun maps have lush colour in them and are not saturated in it
868118 No.14485725
>>14481658
>I'd argue that supreme commanders sp is rather boring
That's because unless you rush the fuck out of everything the AI gives up and can't do shit to you once you're turtled enough so from there it's just tedious cleanup, add to that the fact that's there's some map with starting situations that are way too hard for their own good and you get a shit difficulty balance that isn't fun to play in any way, and that's forgetting some of the atrocious SC1 SP missions that don't give you proper tech levels for the job the ask of you.
The SCFA campaign AI mod is quite a step up, especially if you also have some sort of modded AI and the campaign mod enabler which for some reason seem to make the campaign AI more intense, it would still need a few things to be truly great like the AI straight up starting to shit out waves of experimentals and T3 Arty / Nuke once the timer goes over 40 min.
4c9068 No.14485739
>>14485724
They're brown. Every fucking thing in Tiberian Sun is drenched in brown tones, from the majority of the maps, to 3D renders, to cutscenes, to the menus, to the goddamn cover art. Are you seriously trying to deny that?
47ce3b No.14485750
>>14485725
good AI is something RTS really needs but hardly ever gets nowerdays, goes to show the state of the genre.
>>14485714
nah this is TRrenames autism showing
>>14485739
are you trying to "no u" me?
4c9068 No.14485768
>>14485750
No, I'm telling you the truth. In fact, I see more variety in any other C&C game.
704b67 No.14485784
>>14485750
>TRrenames
Literally who?
47ce3b No.14485785
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>>14485768
lets compare again then, here's the first mission of Tib sun
47ce3b No.14485787
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first mission of Tib wars
47ce3b No.14485794
>>14485784
some faggot who played planetside 2 in the /wwew/ squad, he regularly shits up the site
4c9068 No.14485804
>>14485785
Green tiberium glowing in a brown map. Not unlike some C&C 3 missions but of course you'll ignore all the following C&C 3 missions that happen at blue zone cities with clean waters, arid desert-like yellow zones, dark Tiberium-infested red zones, missions during the night, during rain, during thunderstorms, etc. just to push your anecdote.
4c5887 No.14485811
You guys could just start a C&C thread and bitch there.
704b67 No.14485821
>>14485794
> planetside 2 in the /wwew/ squad
Ah, I see those faggots are still shitting up the place then.
47ce3b No.14485833
>>14485804
look I'm not saying the game is bad, I do intend just have alot of little nitpicks with it that mostly amount to cunts who's first C&C game it is thinking it's better then it really is.
>>14485821
he has a nice little group of fuckers who play on every regular 8ch servers as well
63a5ea No.14485864
>>14485811
Well there are other games to talk about for sure. Post some of your goddamn castles anons
4c9068 No.14485875
>>14485833
I never said either game was bad either but I've seen way too many cunts shit on Tiberium Wars for the silliest of reasons, mostly because it didn't have Westwood's brand on the cover. I personally hold Dawn, Sun and Wars as the holy trilogy of the whole franchise, but I too can see flaws in them. But seriously now Tiberium Wars does have atmosphere, but just because it wasn't Tiberian Sun, doesn't mean it was bad.
e34f39 No.14485885
Hey guise, can I play too???
47ce3b No.14485938
>>14485875
sure a bland atmosphere
>>14485885
delete this
4c9068 No.14485955
>>14485938
Your opinion, man.
e541b7 No.14485980
Is there a site or something that has build orders for Kane's Wrath?
47ce3b No.14485992
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>>14485980
I've seen nothing other then professional matches
63a5ea No.14486048
>>14485992
C&C 3 has some pretty neat multiplayer going on. Anyone know the reason why it never got popular? There are tons of videos with a fairly high view counts but it's mostly untouched and forgotten especially on the streaming side of things
47ce3b No.14486063
>>14486048
EA didn't support it long enough and shit the bed with [redacted]
4c9068 No.14486067
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>Anyone know the reason why it never got popular?
Same reason no RTS game ever gets popular for multiplayer, other than Starcraft: Because of Starcraft.
That said, yeah. Kane's Wrath has some amazingly hype multiplayer, and the community's full of banter.
15a1ee No.14486132
>>14486067
TBH Starcraft isn't even popular (in the sense of making money) for MP outside of Korea. EA made a completely boneheaded mistake of trying to beat Blizzard in a market that wasn't even profitable for Blizzard. Even if they managed to make a game every bit as good as SC2 AND somehow market it to SC2 players enough to make half of them switch to C&C3 AND get all the sponsers for teams and shit in, they'd still be losing a shit ton of money.
bde796 No.14486137
What are the best mods for Zero Hour?
Contra
Rise of the Reds
Cold War Crisis
Shockwave
Something Else?
4c9068 No.14486149
>>14486132
Starcraft almost single handedly popularized MP focus on RTS games and everything that came with it (pros, gooks, pro gooks, rabid pro gook bootlickers, esports, etc.) and ultimately got EA's attention because they thought it was making money, and C&C 3 suffered for it.
e3d961 No.14486194
>>14486137
Operation Firestorm
Zero Hour Reborn
N Project
Zero Hour Retarded
Crazy mod
Blitzkrieg II: The Finest Hour
A Global Crisis (that one got ported over to C&C3 IIRC)
Vietnam Glory Obscured
Tiberian Dawn Redux
and that one mod that restored cut content
63a5ea No.14486223
>>14486132
Why bother making high quality games and putting effort into keeping them alive? It'll never gain the popularity in the end anyway.
Here's a shitty f2p flavor of the month clone of a different equally shitty flavor of the month game that took no effort to make and manages to get streamers like this blue-haired fairy with +90k views doing fuck all. Good fucking luck encouraging devs to make a good rts or any game for that matter after realizing where the real money is.
e982d9 No.14486456
So when are we going to have a Spanking RTS Tournament?
8dad4a No.14486506
>>14486456
There's actually going to be a non-RTS tournament in the next month or so, currently it's a secret project so no spoilers.
If you haven't worked it out already /radcorp/ has a large crossover with the RTS thread.
1894e2 No.14486520
>>14486506
>/radcorp/ has a large crossover with /rts/
It's more a case that the /rts/ thread gets shit done unlike other threads on /v/
8dad4a No.14486574
>>14486520
Pretty much the case yeh, honestly one of the best threads on /v/.
7229c4 No.14486598
what some fun things to do in AoE III?
7229c4 No.14486599
b19f4e No.14486600
>>14486456
When you get on the DTA lobby for some games.
0ef523 No.14486611
>>14486598
i've heard great things about uninstalling it
1894e2 No.14486616
>>14486598
Map Editor. Not kidding, you can do a lot of fun stuff making custom scenarios on it.
ad6d71 No.14486659
>>14485885
No exaggeration anon, RA3 was bland and badly designed despite trying to up the ante of craziness. Each faction progresses in the exact same manner and pretty much at the same rate.
>Barracks gets you infantry, anti-vehicle infantry and engineer
>War factory of your faction gets you transport + anti-infantry vehicle
>Your next tech level unlocks your basic tank
The differences between factions at that point are pretty damn small and uninteresting
>>14484716
Download in mega
>>14478971
c1463f No.14487027
>>14486659
Thanks for the mega link, i missed it before
ba8b8a No.14487057
I got stuck in the rabbit hole that are korean RTSes. for Christ's sake, they just keep coming
c1463f No.14487115
>RTS thread
>Nobody mentions Battle of Middle Earth 1 and 2
4c5887 No.14487135
>>14487115
Thing about two is they softened up some of the units. Where in 1 you could have Gondorian Swordsman go up against Uruks and they do some damage but get killed, if you did that in 2, they'd just lose flat out. It's very much a weapons triangle but throwing in fodder and having decent archers gets you through 8/10 of the times. Don't like that to be honest, if I'm gonna attack move to a target, I want at least some units to survive.
c1463f No.14487156
>>14487135
Man i wish i could say something but i played it so long ago that i dont remember the meta at all
Gotta replay that and CnC3 if torrents still have seeds that is
ad6d71 No.14487166
>>14487027
Tell me if you can't get it working man.
>>14487057
Atrox, that apparent starcraft knock off, isn't anything to write home about.
c1463f No.14487176
7812e9 No.14487209
>>14486223
>Why bother making high quality games and putting effort into keeping them alive? It'll never gain the popularity in the end anyway.
Twenty years from now, people will be still playing Red Alert and Age of Empires via sheer autism alone, while these online-only streamerbait games wither away. Making something good is never for today, but for tomorrow. How many people will be willing to maintain shit like Fortnite or Overwatch? For all we know, the only game that followed these ones' path but will survive for a long time still is TF2.
3ddf50 No.14487319
>>14487209
>Making something good is never for today, but for tomorrow
And making low hanging fruit is the opposite, hence why they're gonna be shat out periodically, mutating to the newest fads as they come and go, forever.
63a5ea No.14487367
>>14487209
You misunderstand, the goal of these devs is to make as much money with as little effort as fast as possible. This streamer bait fotm garbage is exactly that. They will sacrifice their chances of making a high quality game for a high profit game and fortnite was just a good example for that. Didn't some sort of UT game get cancelled because of this? Anyway, rts games aren't anywhere near as popular and requires far more effort to make a decent one so I doubt we'll see any major releases any time soon
e34f39 No.14487368
>>14486659
I see the point you're trying to make, but a) this really isn't much different from previous CNC titles, and b) each faction still has its own niche
<Soviets: Blunt Force (Sickle, Hammer Tank, Kirov)
<Allies: Support Units (Engie Tent, Engie in Multigunner, Spy, Cryocopter)
<Japanese: Weaker than counterparts but flexible (Tengu = Anti-Infantry OR Anti-Air or Chopper = Anti-Air OR Anti-Armor
If you want to criticize the game, use the pointlessly over-the-top humor and the general cheesy 60s agent movie theme. Or the fact that Uprising takes a massive diarrhea dump on unit balance with Giga Fortresses and Harbingers.
63a5ea No.14487399
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>>14487368
>over-the-top humor
Rag on RA3 all you want but their cutscenes are kino
25a6d7 No.14487414
>>14487399
Was also one of the last things Tim did before his stroke.
e34f39 No.14487415
>>14487399
Only because they managed to get Tim Curry.
And that qt. grill who plays Yuriko
e34f39 No.14487430
>>14487414
This is downright sad if you still remember Dr. Frankensteiner.
25a6d7 No.14487451
ad6d71 No.14487487
>>14487368
The implementation of controls is also very poor anon. You can't single order the EMP missile from cruisers, for example. You have to manually select them individually. Same with Akula subs I think.
796ac9 No.14487512
>>14487399
Anyone ever notice his right eye's clearly looking at the prompt but his left is looking at the camera?
That's pretty impressive.
15a1ee No.14487517
>>14486456
I think you mean a Stanking RTS Tournament
63a5ea No.14488114
>>14485864
Did everybody forget stronghold? Not exactly 100% rts but still a great game
c1463f No.14488949
>>14487399
No they were not, they were shit, combine it with waifubait, retarded story breaking its own lore and numerous other shitty things and you have turd supreme that is RA3
Id say its the 2nd worst game in whole CnC series
f612eb No.14488969
What is the most casual RTS you have ever played and why
ad6d71 No.14489015
>>14488969
Not counting RTT?
Battle for Middle Earth 2?
Any game that primarily uses hard-counters.
7812e9 No.14489330
>>14487399
C&C1 and Red Alert 2's cutscenes were much better, but 3 still holds some charm because PERLU HARBORU? and the absurdly sexy for a 3DPD assistants. Also Tim's performance was really good, but nowhere as good as RA1's Stalin.
>>14487367
But we aren't doing that for a job, right?
a613e7 No.14489342
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The last stand is my favorite RTS
e36a79 No.14489377
Why is the only mention of TA in here related to Spring?
>>14489330
The best I can say about RA3 is they tried to do something with the humour. They utterly dropped the ball on the RTS side of it though, the game doesn't even trust you to play by yourself!
ad6d71 No.14489386
>>14489377
Honestly, I'd like more co-op RTS. It was fun with a friend.
5fc1a1 No.14489695
You're at the fields of green, and this guy harvests your crystals. What do you do?
bf9338 No.14489698
>>14487415
Send in some pitbulls and predators with the railgun upgrade?
bf9338 No.14489700
5a2715 No.14489706
>>14478960
>Impossible creatures
>get Wolf with "Pack Hunter" ability
>get Ram with "Herder" ability
>print 50 Wolframs
>wipe out everything
Is there any reason to use diggers, stealth or flyers and other crap?
I'm talking about a creature that gets boosts to attack and defense while already being fairly strong (wolf) and resistant (ram).
Otherwise, great game.
ad6d71 No.14489738
>>14489706
Can Wolframs hit flying?
7812e9 No.14489747
>>14489377
The co-op and alternate utility mechanics were really cool, you can tell the devs had a lot of fun programming the Empire units. It was also really great to see naval warfare being taken into higher consideration, but half of the mechanics fall apart after a few games (YOU NEED ENGINEER?) and they ruined the balance of the game by making certain units that were purposefully useless and gimmicky into multi-purpose shit. In the end they wanted to pander to both the Generals crowd and the Red Alert crowd and they didn't satisfy either. I mean, I like my RTSs fast paced, at least.
76c98d No.14489749
>OP image got spoilered
What the fuck
5a2715 No.14489751
>>14489738
Shit.
Later in the campaign I'm gonna need something with either Herd or Pack that can fly.
Otherwise, I'm probabbly gonna specialize flyers into damage and send Rhino's crossbred for maximum armour + HP to soak up damage.
ad6d71 No.14489766
>>14489747
The expansion was especially cancer.
>>14489751
Ah who knows, there's probably something.
e8a86f No.14489798
>>14485335
>they gave a personality to everything when in actual should have been fairly monotone and beak
You're a retard.
The cutscenes in tiberian sun clearly show how fanatic and outspoken both GDI and Nod combatants were.
3c0c01 No.14489813
Rts are harry potter of videogames
47ce3b No.14489822
>>14489749
yeah the vols/bo have been shit as of late
>>14489798
which cut scenes?
0dea0a No.14489823
>>14489813
videogames are the rts of harry potter
7c859a No.14489998
>we won't add city building sprites because it dilutes the game more
>but screwing with the balance isn't!
Just in case you are wondering it was on their IRC channel, I thought you might be interested in this.
<KOYK> pchote if i finish those are we going to add them to openra? http://www.sleipnirstuff.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&p=306925#306925
<orabot> Title: Sleipnir's Stuff :: View topic - New civ buildings on the works for openra
<pchote> I don't like the idea of adding new assets to the base game
<KOYK> why is that?
<pchote> there are several
<pchote> first off, it aggrevates what is already an unhappy copyright situation
<pchote> secondly it dilutes the original game
<pchote> and in many cases (i'm not necessarily saying it applies here) the quality is noticably different, meaning that they don't integrate well
<KOYK> copy right with who? you mean EA games?
<KOYK> also there is a desert tile set on ra and a jungle tileset for td so i think we are passed the point of staying true to the original (decoretion wise) from the original game
<Scott`> we have, but making it worse doesnt help
<KOYK> also if you are talking about copyright issues about those asset, i made them so we are ok
<KOYK> ok but in the video scenes of the game, you can clearly see that there are citys involved in the war, so i think this could be an improvement considering that there is already one city building added to the game
<Scott`> the game itself wasnt set in cities though
<KOYK> yes but that dosnt mean they dint want to add that at some point, i mean there is always a time line when you make games
<Scott`> sure, look at ts/ra2
<KOYK> as we can see in red alert 2 for example
<KOYK> yea
<KOYK> to be honest take a look at some user maps that are using the only one city building that exist in ra multiple times so they can make a city like map, the problem is that they end up adding the same building over and over again, so having more buildings is going to be a better solution for them, and i am sure the players will appreciate this, dont you think?
<pchote> players would appreciate many things that are not realistic
<pchote> projects need to define boundaries on what they are willing to include
<KOYK> is not realistic to have city buildings tho?
<pchote> not in the sense of project management, no
<KOYK> so red alert 2 and tiberian sun is unrealistic is that what you are saying?
<pchote> i'm not talking about in-game realism
0722a7 No.14490021
>>14478909
>Globalist detention center
why not just call it for what it is - a FEMA camp
e9a51a No.14490030
>>14490016
>Alien probes in TS
What fucking mod is that
47ce3b No.14490045
7c859a No.14490047
>>14490021
The future is FEMA fam. :^)
>>14490016
Pretty much this, what really grinds me gear is that he used the "muh copyright" as a excuse for not adding more assets, if it were such a huge deal then C&C overall would have hardly any mods at all. At least OpenRA is gud for modding stuff in it, too bad that making missions is a pain in the butt, because they thought it would be "great" to use lua scripting for that, instead of using bunch of trigger placement and other stuff in the map editor.
Also I just finished doing a medium play through of the Soviet campaign both RA 2 and the expansion of it. It was not too shabby but it was a bit underwhelming since I didn't had to put much thought how to deal with it. I find it weird that the 6th YR soviet mission was more hard since it took me 3 attempts to finish it, I ended it up using only apocalypse tank and cosmonauts to destroy the base. The 7th mission wasn't really much of a challenge since all I did was build up the economy and the defense, go to the left and right side of the map to get rid of the meat grinder and for bonus shekels. Then I sieged the soviet base and rush b to the PSI emitter and from there I launched the attack to Yuri castle, also for some reason there was a lot of unused siege chopper which I put it into use to destroy the left side of the yuri base, to cripple his defense.
I feel like playing the GDI now in Tiberian Sun but the fact that it has some mech units triggers my autism. Meh I guess I need to figure doing a voxel only replacement then, no stat change.
47ce3b No.14490054
>>14490047
mechs are realistic
e8a86f No.14490066
>>14490047
>I feel like playing the GDI now in Tiberian Sun but the fact that it has some mech units triggers my autism
What? Mechs were the absolute coolest units in Tiberian Sun.
7c859a No.14490084
>>14490066 (checked)
>>14490054
Whatever walks your legs man.
e8a86f No.14490089
>>14490084
Don't you be putin puns in this now
e8a86f No.14490132
>>14490103
>All this retardation in the comments
Christ I hate these "robots r gunna kill us lmao" troglodytes so much. Like how much longer can you fucking drag 50+ year old joke through the mud
47ce3b No.14490138
>>14490132
they don't seem to realize that this isn't some vast artificial intelligence that's learned to figure out how to walk and open doors but more scripts being played after sensor detect the situation it's in
217fc0 No.14490199
I want 18th and 19th century warfare, is Cossacks the best game for this?
If yes, do I play 1 or 2?
6446b8 No.14490782
>>14490199
Yes and you play 1 or American Conquest which I personally recommend over Cossacks 1
Cossacks 2 is more centered around regimental fighting than basebuilding and high amounts of unit recruitment
You could also play Cossacks 3(D) if you want better graphics and some QoL stuff
bde796 No.14491759
>anti-infantry defense shooting at tanks
>anti-tank units keep targeting infantry
Don't do this to me, please.
8dad4a No.14492000
>>14490199
Play 1, 2 is still pretty good but not as good.
217fc0 No.14492216
>>14490782
>>14492000
Thanks, I'll get the first one then.
1894e2 No.14492252
>>14487115
Probably because it was largely overlooked when it came out and kind of bland to bad honestly when it came to gameplay.
>>14487414
RA3 caused Tim his stroke.
>>14487517
>Stanks vs Pillboxes round 2
>>14489749
Apparently someone is in a butthurt crusade against Generals and also the RTS thread. a.k.a. cuckchan is flooding the board.
>>14489998
>it dilutes the original game
Considering they already raped OpenRA to hell and back what the fuck does that even mean?
>>14490047
>OpenRA missions
Fog of war alone fucks those missions up to the point they become unplayable since they were not designed for fog of war.
>>14490054
>>14490084
What about a Mech in a wheelchair?
>>14491759
Clearly you need anti-spank units :^)
2bb584 No.14492294
>>14489342
farseer a shit
also has anyone here played Surviving Mars?
1894e2 No.14492303
>>14492282
You know when it's reversing it looks like it's giving a pelvic thrust.
c1463f No.14492358
>>14487166
So i installed Swarm Assault and it works just fine
Except my colors are fucked up a little bit, i tried running it in 256 colors only and in WinXP compatibility mode but it still doesn't work
1894e2 No.14492408
>>14492358
I found colors are fine but the game runs sluggish.
c1463f No.14492411
>>14478971
>Swarm Assault is a long since dead game, here's a mega.
Surprisingly the dev page is still up
http://www.gate5creations.com
1894e2 No.14492434
>>14492411
and now the game no longer works after I tried playing wtih compatibility settings. Absolute wew.
c1463f No.14492450
>>14492434
Try to run in with comparability of Win98
1894e2 No.14492458
>>14492450
Funny enough doing that is what made the game unplayable. Even when I turned it off
c1463f No.14492514
>>14492458
Dont worry, i tried to take a screenshot showing off my colors, well the screenshot came out worse than i thought
6e64f9 No.14492785
>>14490054
i love the wolverine in TibSun. Kane's Wrath…not so much
345fde No.14492807
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14492785
Not how you spell Mammoth
47ce3b No.14492816
>>14492785
it's too bad you'd never want to produce them
6e64f9 No.14492827
>>14492816
i like the idea of powersuit / exosuited mechs because I like Bubblegum Crisis
345fde No.14492848
>>14492827
I like them because they feel more like a bulkier metal humanoid, an extension of it's user than a contraption/vehicle.
47ce3b No.14492850
>>14492827
so draw more of them fagitlordo
6e64f9 No.14492873
>>14478827
>Spank & Conquer
>Spoilered OP pic isn't C&C characters
Aww.
539b4d No.14492878
>>14489998
>OpenRA
City buildings are not okay but cancerous Yak meta and ALLIED HINDS are fine and don't dilute the original game whatsoever.
Can't someone someone make a branch of OpenRA without cancer already?
47ce3b No.14492898
speaking of wolverines I'm glad they changed the design of them
6e64f9 No.14492922
>>14492898
the machineguns in the 2nd wolverine is smaller. I dont like how it looks
a613e7 No.14492965
>>14492958
Show me the chad wolverine
345fde No.14492977
>>14492965
>chad Wolverine
It's called a Titan you dumb slut
a613e7 No.14492981
>>14492977
No, this can't be happening, I'm in charge here
6e64f9 No.14493006
>>14492936
what the hell is that
>>14492997
look at this soy laser titan with its skinny legs and frail body
47ce3b No.14493010
>>14493006
XO power suit
oh I'm sorry did you want the Wolf
50a3f7 No.14493057
>>14492827
>GDI emblem on shouder
Pillboxes are Allies only, GDI uses Watch Towers.
345fde No.14493065
>>14493053
Are you the same faggot who posts SupCom2 units?
I hope you're skinned alive you subhuman
6e64f9 No.14493079
>>14493010
THEY'VE PUT THE WOLVERINE IN A WHEELCHAIR
4c9068 No.14493080
>>14493006
That's not even the titan. The titan from C&C 4 was a straight carbon copy of the one from Kane's Wrath.
50a3f7 No.14493081
>>14493065
Yes he is. He used to shit up SS13 threads as well before he got banned and ban evaded once again.
47ce3b No.14493089
>>14493079
that's rather apt
>>14493081
no that was TRrename
50a3f7 No.14493114
>>14493089
Nigger you're still lowercase tbhposting everywhere and you are now blaming other people for your fuckups? Just get out of here, you already put the thread on bumplimit with your bullshit.
345fde No.14493128
>>14493081
With the risk of derailing the thread, what did he do in the SS13 threads to get banned?
because if you haven' noticed all of this is banter
50a3f7 No.14493168
>>14493128
Pretty much what he's doing right now
Eg: Either create drama or do as many low-effort shitposts as quickly as possible to drum up post count and kill the thread as quickly as possible. Used to go by the ckey Chaosyourgod and was renown for attempting to ERP.
I think he also had an f-list at some point but i can't find it in my archives.
345fde No.14493185
>>14493168
Sounds like Roleplay autism to me, but I might be wrong .
He's made some quality posts on this thread.
Also, why the fuck were some of his posts deleted?
f2ea06 No.14493365
>fite me in a thread that wont go anywhere or achieve dick cos I ruined a thread that I'll blame on you xd
7f23e6 No.14493404
>>14493365
I still don't know why yoy were banned
I still don't know why I was banned
f2ea06 No.14493414
>>14493404
what were you banned for?
9a5b98 No.14493521
>>14492898
>>14492922
Wolverine Mk.I > Wolverine Mk.II
I like the boxy, trashcan design
7f23e6 No.14493562
>>14493414
Top tier shit
>>14493521
Asking for the source of a statement.
f2ea06 No.14493659
what about the exoskeletons though?
>>14493562
usual then
7c859a No.14494017
>>14492878
Yeah it's fucking irritating isn't it? Especially since he pulled the muh copyright card, like what the fuck?
>I am going to nerf the Engineer because they fucked up my game with their Engie rush!
>Nod shouldn't have a SSM unit but instead gets a gimped ballistic artillery
>said SSM unit will be a mobile SAM now despite recon bike has the AA role already
>also the GDI MRLS will be able to fire 6 rockets at once
>The APC will be able to fire against air units too because I said so
>somehow it doesn't summons the wrath of EA jew laywers
<projects need to define boundaries on what they are willing to include
>despite those city sprites are done already
And nobody will object their decision because that means you are a nasty trorru which is a shamefur dispray and groriours forum moderatoru will gibs bannu
>Can't someone someone make a branch of OpenRA without cancer already?
I briefly looked at their mods forum, apparently there is 1-2 "Classic" mods that tries to make a 1:1 balance of the original game, how true that is I don't know I haven't checked those yet. Also I have found a handy program which can manage mods for you, compared to JSGME it is actually possible to make configs based on games. I tested a few mods with this tool (D-day and nods revenge) and it worked fine: https://github.com/sedenion/ovgme/releases
539b4d No.14494019
>>14493880
what even this disgusting abomination of a thread?
1894e2 No.14494817
>>14492827
>>14492873
>>14493521
Nice OC
>>14493365
Mark going on a banning spree again?
998430 No.14494857
>Spanking OP image got censored
>Even though there are banners of spanking on /v/
Way to be consistent Mark.
51b002 No.14495198
Surviving Mars is out. Plays a bit like the Stronghold series, collecting resources and storing them on pallets.
51b002 No.14495270
>>14495198
Last thing I want for my colony is a tumblr otherkin complaining that her male scientist roommates are misogynists because they're working on tech to improve the life of the colony while she blogs back to earth how oppressive life is there.
7c859a No.14495283
>>14495198
Do you get to remove AYY in this game?
15a1ee No.14495314
>>14495270
Is it too much to hope that "other" refers to aliens rather than brain damaged otherkin with a 55% suicide rate when they aren't on a hostile planets and do not receive weekly welfare checks?
38f454 No.14495317
>>14495283
No it's a city builder.
51b002 No.14495353
>>14495314
I wish. A few tips.
>Get drones, lots of drones.
>Keep starting networks for water and oxygen small. I built a large one for water and it keeps leaking out all the water I collect.
>Metal early and around you starting site > Get concrete to build stuff >Air and Water to get colonists > Build biodome and get people.
>If you run out of polymer because you built too many batteries, you can call down another shuttle but then you waste a rocket and have to call another one.
>Get a few transports to move around resources. They're good at going to places to get metal early.
>There is no tutorial or campaign (yet), it's up to you to try and build your colony.
51b002 No.14495399
>>14495353
>Use switches along the pipes to close down any leaks.
I am not a smart man. It's better than the switches in Railyway Empire at least.
482679 No.14497969
>Mark bumplocks the unofficial gamenight because of sonic bullying
>Nukes half the thread
>Bans tons of anons including the OP
>Spoilers our OP image
I think it's time we left for >>>/vg/ anons.
aa4496 No.14498048
>>14497969
I think it's time people start keeping meta discussion or shitflinging to the relevant threads, instead of posting that shit where they damn well please instead.
Your derailment of an unrelated thread does not help your case nor does it build sympathy.
482679 No.14498067
>>14498048
Faggot I wasn't posting any meta shit and now I've got to use a VPN to post in this thread because was handing bans out like fucking candy.
f2ea06 No.14498076
>>14498048
you realize those meta threads have not archived a single thing? many people have been fucked off with mark for mass deleting on topic posts and yet it still happens.
482679 No.14498086
>>14498076
>Meta thread
It was literally anons playing video games and then someone mentioned /vg/ and he went nuclear.
aa4496 No.14498093
>>14498067
>>14498076
Neither of you gave a good reason as to why we should discuss your bans in the RTS thread.
f2ea06 No.14498130
>>14498093
that would be correct, however I'm sure to get another slapping regardless if I'm on topic or not. this is my issue and I'll shut up now till it happens again.
ad6d71 No.14498245
>>14497969
There was a bump in cuckchan posters cause their site went down. Mods went a little enthusiastic on their asses.
8dad4a No.14498532
>>14498093
Mods have been fucking with the RTS thread for weeks now, hell OP has a /vg/ link in it just in case.
a3b982 No.14498558
>>14498245
Mods are the NOD obelisks
1894e2 No.14498901
>>14498532
To be honest Mark destroying the gamenight thread was the final straw. I really can't be assed keeping the RTS thread up on /v/ knowing at any point half the posts may get randomly deleted cause a mod sees something they don't like.
4c9068 No.14499111
>>14497969
What if we tried moving to /games/? /vg/ is too dead and people are getting banned for the silliest things
1894e2 No.14499517
>>14499111
/vg/ is far more active than /games/ to be honest.
8dad4a No.14500278
>>14499111
Lad /vg/ is clearly more active right now.
4c9068 No.14501214
>>14486048
We got a KW tournament live right now
twitch tv/spartylive
Pardon the location of the stream but the caster's a cool guy; impartial and focused on the game at all times.
4c9068 No.14501281
>>14498558
>Nod artillery vs. Obelisk
15a1ee No.14501282
>>14501214
Has anyone figured out how to get C&C3-engine games running on modern systems yet? IIRC it had something to do with either windows 10 or intel GPUs?
4c9068 No.14501287
>>14501282
What? Why are you using WIndows 10? It works just fine on 7.
a3b982 No.14501294
>>14501281
doesn't DTA allow the allied to fight against NOD
4c9068 No.14501302
>>14501294
n o n c a n o n
8dad4a No.14501316
There seems to be a new thread over here but nobody linked to it >>14501145
a8f3d9 No.14501325
>>14501316
Oh we know, it seems someone linked an earlier thread to /vg/ and now there is a lot of posting going on over in there
Maybe link it in there?
I would myself but i end up fucking crossboard linking every fucking time
1894e2 No.14502694
10c1e9 No.14502991
>>14478827
>play Planetary Annihilation
>having fun in skirmish
>"Ok, time to bump up the difficulty"
>Suddenly the AI has perfect economy micro and the only viable strategy is commander sniping
>"Well maybe that modded AI will be better"
>It's not
How fucking hard is it to just make AI scale smoothly? The difference between (Bronze/Normal) and (Silver/Hard) is like the difference between playing against an 8 year old and a semi-pro player. How the fuck am I supposed to learn to play this game when the difficulty jumps from kiddie mode to "Fuck your shit" with no in between so I can figure out decent build orders?
ad6d71 No.14503100
242a29 No.14503161
>>14481792
They still get made, but pros don't play them because they prefer the popular competitive ones like SC and AOE, while casuals don't play them because they believe they will get instarushed in a splitsecond by the earlier.
>>14482146
I swear, you'd think that now that we live in the information age and no longer rely on guides or experienced friends, more people would get a hang of the mechanics, strategies and unique skills easier. But in reality people don't want to learn shit now and if they can't get the illusion of gitting gud 30 minutes in, they won't bother with these games in first place.
Shit like this sometimes makes me wonder why we even have >5MB/s of consumer internet.
10c1e9 No.14503208
>>14503161
There's also the fact that to this day it seems nobody's made an RTS where real-time tactical moves can outplay pre-game strategy. Often in the esports scene games are effectively decided within the first few opening moves. It's not as bad in casual play but it's still there. When you compare this to what's actually popular with people in multiplayer, you'll see that the key difference in the popular games is that they allow, and often rely on, the ability of a losing player to reverse their situation without relying on their opponent fucking up. You can try to get a headshot in shooters, you can set up some retarded gank in ASSFAGGOTS, etc. In RTS what can you do if your economy gets fucked by a raid because you rolled the dice wrong in guessing which strat your opponent was going to use? You're at a disadvantage for the entire rest of the game.
Losing isn't fun when you know that there's little to no chance for you to turn it around unless your opponent is literally retarded. Even less so when the winning strategies often rely on the opponent failing to exploit certain weaknesses early, instead of a more rounded approach.
242a29 No.14503315
>>14503208
Well, that mostly just comes on any FFA games. Reversing against an opponent that 3%'d your health on a 1v1 shooter isn't really easy either unless you get a lucky shot or manage to outplay your opponent. And if someone just turtles on the main base with the wrong civ and technologies, instead of spreading across the map like wildfire while building bases and annoyances to slow down the enemy and get more shots for defense, it's honestly their fault.
I don't want the genre to focus on casuals or cater to them, but i don't think having more beginner/midskill rooms would damage RTS either. So that people who missed the whole RTS bandwagon in the 90's/2000's found a way to integrate in, but not without removing or obscuring out the learning/strategy part, of course.
242a29 No.14503321
10c1e9 No.14503394
>>14503315
>Reversing against an opponent that 3%'d your health on a 1v1 shooter isn't really easy either
It's easier at all skill levels than any type of reversal in RTS. Getting a headshot is more a matter of your own skill than your opponent's lack of it.
>And if someone just turtles on the main base … it's honestly their fault
Yeah, and if you put those bases in the wrong spot? Wasted eco. If you expand too slowly? Opponent gains massive production advantage. Lose a skirmish? Welp, there goes any chance of a lead until lategame. Seemingly minor failures have huge cascading outcomes that are very difficult to avoid.
>I don't want the genre to focus on casuals or cater to them
Nobody does, but the current state of RTS is an unfriendly, unwelcoming game with long match length, high investment, and low probability of success.
To use the FPS analogy, RTS is like playing a 1v1 to 10 points on an enormous and sparsely-populated (item-wise) UT2k4 map and you only get one weapon (your viable strat pick). Maybe if you and your opponent get to 8+ points you can swap guns later. Would you play this game? Fuck no. The game's outcome depends way too much on predicting your opponent's weapon pick and the game is going to take way too long even after it's apparent who's going to win. The optimal strategy for getting the most wins/time is not to play the game, but to try to outpick your opponent, and if you didn't do it right, leave immediately an begin another match. Now did you pick the right section of the map to scout out? No? Just leave because you're fucked anyways because whoever dies first is at a massive disadvantage (opponent keeps health, armor, etc). Bear in mind that your opponent will do this too, since they want to have fun and not waste their time.
The end result is that you'll have a game that nobody actually plays except ultrapros and retards. All the regular mid-skill players will realize that they could be having a hell of a lot more fun playing something else.
To fix RTS what has to happen is that there needs to be an RTS made where:
>Expansion speed isn't locked to XTREME or YOU LOSE
>Switching strategy mid-game is actually viable
>Comebacks are actually possible against a good player
>Superior eco doesn't mean an automatic win
>Average 1v1 match length is 15mins or shorter
Now to be fair there are RTS games that have some of the above points, but never every single one as far as I've seen. The overarching idea is that the game will allow creative strategy, the outcome of a match won't be as deterministic (or at least not as predictable during gameplay), and the players won't feel as though a lost match has wasted their time.
ad6d71 No.14504714
>>14503208
I've always seen SupCom FA as an RTS that provides this experience due to several unorthodox strategies and means to overcoming opponents. Largely thanks to the assassinate-based victory system, allowing one clever move to undo your opponent.