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Boil it down to cultural differences; not as a meme either, the Japs just see the sacrifice of individual assets/people for a collective cause as being an everyday thing.

I thought it was the premise that the real battle was for the data, not the conflict, so the enemies won by completing their objective, and all you did was either save someone, save a city, or do something else that was your overarching objective. It does indeed keep the series going since the villains are never outright defeated like the Enclave in Fallout 2. This allows for expansion in future updates and not having to come up with wholly new antagonists.

I'd prefer if games instead just made a game or two as you playing as the antagonist and gaining power to have an enemy to fight in future installments. It'd be a good method to introduce new antagonists in a series that are properly fleshed out instead of just adding in random evil faction #38.

its called a "trope" you dumb nigger

nips have a lot of nip specific tropes that are unique to their culture

>>14452402

That's why I want to know if western games ever used it. To know if it's truly a cultural trait.

>>14452481

>Using the word trope

>Calling anyone a dumb nigger

Back to your SJW site with you.

>>14452327

It's a narrative trope.

You actually see this far, far more in sidequests where characters ask you to complete a mission, sometimes in a specific way to "gather data".

What it basically means is that you get an extra objective\mission\goal to complete that doesn't have to affect the story one iota or award you with gamebreaking rewards.

However even better, it's the perfect justification as to how that NPC figured out how to do some new weapon or gizmo later on if the writers need it to happen.

Alternatively, you can think about it based on how players themselves do it.

You fight an enemy and you might even have to run away, but before you do, you're gonna try everything in your inventory and figure out elemental weaknesses or total armor and attack speed of your enemy so future attempts are well planned against him.

This is what "that kid" used to do anytime you LARPed on the playground.

>no, fuck you! I win! I collected all the valuable battle data! I don't care if you killed all my army, I'll come back with an army from hell and use the battle data to win! See I win! Hahahahahahaha!

Japanese game devs are being that kid.

How do you win if your battle data confirms that your BOWs SUCK ASS against pseudo-SWAT

>>14452548

its also interesting in that Zombies aren't actually BOWs but side-effects of the viruses used to create BOWs.

The only BOWs that are actually zombies are the plagas zombies while all the umbrella viruses were just mistakes.

>>14452327

>narrative trick

>capcom

It's a copout/trope because their writers are notoriously and infamously terrible.

>>14452538

That is one good looking cat.

It comes from them not knowing how much fuel to put in their planes so they'd just send people out with varying sizes of tanking to patrol the Pacific. If they didn't radio back, they assumed the tank was too small.

>>14452548

>How do you win if your battle data confirms that your BOWs SUCK ASS against pseudo-SWAT

But they dont though, they wiped out most of said not-SWAT and also the entire police force and mercs.

>>14452804

>Now I have to go in and kill everything that killed them.

You can just nuke the zombies afterwards with no consequence.

Google "Unit 731"

>>14452823

But then why use the virus in the first place?

>>14452840

To disable the MAD?

>>14452823

And destroy all the infrastructure? Why are you even fighting a war in the first place?

>>14452923

To kill them dead of course.

>>14452498

>this is an SJW word only

>>>/cuckchan/

>>14452402

It's common to assume meme is just another word for describing jokes and humor but memes are more then that it's the DNA of culture itself, ideas and concepts that spread like a virus and in turn change your mind and how you view the world and act upon it. In fact the word was coined by Richard Dawkins by altering Mimeme to sound like gene, you should read his book The Selfish Gene it's good stuff.

>>14452481

>trope

You’re retarded.

>>14453025

trope is a real, distinct concept.

http://allthetropes.wikia.com/wiki/Trope

http://allthetropes.wikia.com/wiki/All_The_Tropes:Why_Fork_TV_Tropes

>>14453169

I dunno what they were thinking when they choose wikia though, especially if their goal is to prevent censorship and ads because both of those will be shoved down your throat at some point if you use wikia.

Battle data is an interesting concept which is beginning to see some use in the real world. For example, you can collect demographic data about the height, weight, age and other parameters of which fighters are most likely to win a boxing championship or UFC and determine if there's a pattern. You can measure the average (and median/mode) duration of a match, the frequency of which techniques are used to win, and the success rates of attempts at different techniques. In the military you're looking at which areas of a vehicle are most likely to take damage, which areas are most likely to render it inoperable if they get damaged, the success rates of different craft by weight load, and so forth. As far as how it gets used in fiction goes, it doesn't amount to a whole lot if the heroes can easily destroy the improved version of the evil minions the bad guys create with this data.

>>14453434

>egocentric

they're egocentric for autisticaly cataloguing tropes for fun? what's so egocentric about it?

>>14452603

it is the cat of silent judgement

>>14453434

a trope is literally a literary convention

>>14452409

>[if] the villains are never outright defeated like the Enclave in Fallout 2. This allows for expansion in future updates and not having to come up with wholly new antagonists.

Like that stopped ZeniMax :^)

>>14453470

By egocentric he means gay. They have male gaze as a trope

>>14452766

>that's part of why so many anniemoos and games take place in high schools and star young kids

Ahahahah, no.

A lot of animoo stars in high schools with dumb teenagers because highschool was the top moment for a lot of otakus or shut ins or average japanese salaryman. Compared to what their life is on their 20s or 30s, highschool was fucking bliss.

Now combine that with some powerfantasy or an harem and you have the perfect escapism for them.

Anime about power fantasies or harens in an highschool background isn't just aimed at kids, it's also aimed at lonely and depressed young adults.

Kinda like how the entire shoujo genre is aimed towards young girls and older men.

>>14452804

Nuclear weapons could be considered a retarded weapon applying the same logic, since their main goal is to target the civilian population and exterminate a contry thus.

However they still have power in warfare anyway as deterrents, just like BoWs would.

Besides, that's the whole point of using bioweapons against a location, you exterminate all life but leave the infrastructure intact for easier takeover.

In this case, you just gotta wait for the zombies to break down or use an antidote.

And let's not forget that you can deploy armed forces to handle it, which should be simple if the entire point of it is simply to kill civilians.

>>14454316

>A lot of animoo stars in high schools with dumb teenagers because highschool was the top moment for a lot of otakus or shut ins or average japanese salaryman

That's literally what he says right after

I always thought the BOWs were genetically altered beings like the Hunters, Tyrants, Lickers and the like and that the infected like the zombie humans and dogs are the result of an accident and not supposed to be actual bio weapons.