aa116a No.14448830
RETRO FPS THREAD FOR OLD FARTS AND HAS-BEENS SINCE THE DOOM THREAD KEEPS ON GETTING DERAILED BY RETARDS THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT BLOOD ISN'T DOOM
I've been playing a lot of blood and duke nukem recently, and I've been wondering if there are more build engine games out there like Nam or Shadow warrior.
Also, have you guys gave half nuked a try? I heard it's pretty fun, but I'd like to hear you guy's opinion on the matter.
cfca9a No.14448941
>Half Nuked
Oh yeah, I remember seeing some a trailer of it on Jewtube.
Half Payne is also looking top tiet
I'll need to download it after I finish They Hunger and Afraif of Monsters DC
Have you tried AMC TC and DNF OP?
b6b655 No.14448951
I wish the bosses in blood were more fun to fight, probably the worst part about the game. Everything else was pretty solid until the very late game where they thought it would be fun to make you hunt down 6 keys per stage.
31d599 No.14449033
Reminder to pirate and not purchase Duke games, Randy Pitchford doesn't deserve your money.
Are the damage values across difficulties still fucked in Blood?
af3812 No.14449235
>>14448830
FPS has 2 chapters, pre and post counter strike.
4be610 No.14449258
>>14448951
boss fights in FPS games are usually pretty bad my man. In fact, I can't think of one that isn't just a bullet sponge or doesn't rely on mechanics that typically don't belong in FPS games.
also the blood splatter in OP sorta looks like losslol
0b308f No.14449281
r u a bad enuff dood to dual wield sawed offs
60c504 No.14449339
>>14448951
I wouldn't mind the bosses if it wasn't for that fucking spider
No timer on him spawning children, so you can easily get flooded by a bunch of little shits who when they bite you cause the screen to distort. Throwing dynamite is a gamble because one little spider getting in the way means that thing going off in your face. Of course to top it all off the spider is strong to electric attacks so the best weapon in the game, the Tesla gun, is worthless against him.
And if you play any of the expansion episodes there is one in every fucking level.
Give me the fucking hellhound and silver gargoyle any day.
Sorry, I just beat Blood last month and the spider is easily the stand-out worst moment.
de0e2b No.14449352
>>14448830
Hexen is best retro fps. The other ones are all gay.
1adbd5 No.14449363
Been playing DOOM, Half-Life 1, and the original AVP. It’s absolutely rediculous how fun FPS games used to be compared to what they are now. They were just so fast paced and there was this extra effort to make the enemies fun to fight.
>>14449033
Fucked up thing is that cuck Randy made GOG and a few torrent sites take down their distribution of the old games.
459dba No.14449384
>>14449339
Spider has no direct attacks and has limited number of active spiders at a time which can't climb small ledges.
7fcff3 No.14449398
>>14448830
Soldier of Fortune 1 is rad.
577d22 No.14449461
Anyone remember the old "Thinking Man's FPS" meme? That FPS games were brainless affairs with braindead Gameplay and the possibility of an enriching experience but a pipedream?
I do. And the state of FPS today proves that these people were either braindead or were looking a gift horse in the mouth. It takes far more brains and cunning to finish the old games than any FPS released in nearly 20 years.
0b308f No.14449462
>>14449461
Those same brainfags are trying to remove tits from gaming now.
700390 No.14449467
>>14449258
Rise of the Triad had the NME. Use cover, stay mobile since that thing is fast and deadly. Don't even bother trying to circle-strafe. Shame the first two bosses in that are gimmicky and easy, while the final boss's first form is retarded.
>>14449352
You're a gay, even though yes, Hexen was a good game. A bit silly with its concept of "puzzles" though when most of them are switch hunts or key hunts. Hexen 2 does better at that.
>>14449461
That's because they missed that playing them well requires its own train of thought: Understanding of how you can move around, the threats different enemies pose and how they interact with each other, and what tools and constraints you are working under to dispose of them. It's not just mindlessly shooting everything in the face.
7fcff3 No.14449468
>>14449461
The "thinking men" they self-identified as were definitely braindead.
d4687f No.14449479
For the most part I'm always going back to Destiny on and off, I get too much of a thrill playing it to go for long periods of time.
ef86f3 No.14449482
>>14449363
>Randy Cuckford made GOG take down their distribution of the old games
I'm out of the loop, when did this happen?
7fcff3 No.14449490
>>14449482
I think it was around the re-release of Duke that they removed the originals.
1adbd5 No.14449494
>>14449482
https://www.gog.com/forum/duke_nukem_series/was_duke_nukem_removed_from_gog
Pretty cool of Randy to fuck up distribution of a game he didn’t develop, the torrents also got removed from freegoggames, I’d imagine due to threats from bitchford himself,
6c0ee6 No.14449500
>>14449461
For me the "thnking man's FPS" have always been about making the player do as much shit as possible at any given time. Something more than just press WASD and click LMB once in a while.
c33b91 No.14449507
>>14449494
Didn't Randy also refuse to release the 90% complete build of Duke Nukem Forever for free despite the wishes of the original developers?
I hope he gets some nasty, incurable strain of cancer and we get to see him slowly rot to death.
1adbd5 No.14449508
>>14449500
The puzzle comes from dealing with enemy placement and the mixture of enemies. People who wanted a “thinking mans” FPS didn’t like FPS’s.
9be61f No.14449523
What retro FPS are available for PS4?
So far i see newest pro-feminist edition of Duke Nukem and i refuse to buy it.
Okay, serious question, do we have a homebrew yet that doesn't break the console?
20980b No.14449531
>>14449523
make sure you're on 4.05 (i think) and sit tight
700390 No.14449540
>>14449500
Simple controls don't necessarily mean simplistic or easy gameplay. Heck, Mario has move left/right and run/jump but the challenge is using those tools to defeat enemies, collect items, and get to the exit. Conversely, some games are overly complicated like SotN where you have a solid movement and combat system but on top of that you have consumables, equippables, spells, subweapons, familiars, stats, transformations, and more, and most of those are poorly fleshed out and balanced, and they rarely use the enemies in a creative or threatening way.
Modern game design doesn't exist. It's a mishmash of recycled stuff and focuses on being a game for "everyone", meaning no game style gets full attention.
>>14449528
>gay melee
Oh come the fuck on. Certainly the mace sucks but the fighter melee stuff is great, and I love caving enemies with the hammer of retribution.
340dbc No.14449546
stop canibalizing the Doom thread you friggin fag
524590 No.14449553
Played the Doom wad Going Down, and it was a pretty different experience. It's Uncomfy: the game. You're constantly getting swarmed from every possible angle, even ones that seemed impossible, like zombies suddenly popping up right outside a skyscraper window. Even when you think you've got it figured out, a wall suddenly lowers in your safe spot, face to face with another truckload of niggers when you're still getting pounded by the others. There's almost never a way to be perfectly safe.
I really like it, because it feels like you took regular Doom maps, but cut out everything except the parts where I'm about to die. There's never any danger when I'm chipping through a linear stream of dudes in hallways, or cornershooting all the ones perched in an arena before I actually enter it. Here I'm always running around like a weepy idiot. The only thing is that it feels like a fucking disaster with enemy replacements, because of how meticulous it is. But if you want a thinking man's FPS that's pretty much it, if you don't use trial and error that is.
4be610 No.14449566
>>14449553
200 mega hurts is my favorite level of all time
:^)
4be610 No.14449628
>>14449612
>posts a tranny
>can't link properly
Stick to sucking cock, faggot.
700390 No.14449639
>>14449612
You mean the Doom thread that is on autosage, and that you can't even link to correctly? I'd rather wait for the new thread.
>>>/v/14361071
ff34b2 No.14449845
I really recommend the Death Wish mod for Blood, it's great.
463514 No.14449942
Started playing system shock, lads.
Pretty good tbh.
d0ce21 No.14449959
>>14449468
>No nothing
>>14449398
That is is, 2's more tactical FPS approach is also ok (they wanted to do that with 1 but it never really worked out). Not sure it's truly a retro FPS though.
>>14448830
You should try the two Jedi engine games by the way (Dark Forces and Outlaws).
Duke 3D kinda goes to shit after the first episode and is a bit overrated, give me Blood any day.
700390 No.14450212
>>14449959
>No nothing
They could've intended that as a joke.
>Duke
Eh? Episode 2 and 3 are on par with the shareware for the most part, unlike ROTT where the best episode is the shareware and the main game is kind of middling to tedious slog (goddamn episode 4). Mind, Duke's episode 4 is kind of crappy for the most part and gets too heavy-handed with the references. Episode 5 I haven't seen and probably don't want to.
f35da0 No.14450331
>>14449398
Don't play the second one. They really made that one a pain in the ass I got to the cargo ship and they just start spawning assholes with mini-Uzis behind you.
380f12 No.14450334
>>14450312
>best gaming device*
94ff6d No.14450356
>>14449363
>It’s absolutely rediculous how fun FPS games used to be compared to what they are now.
I've been playing Quake 4 and it's mind boggling how something that was pretty bland in its time now is pretty decent.
>>14449033
Dubs of truth. What's the best Blood sourceport?
afee8a No.14450363
>>14449639
>accuses others of newfaggotry because they can't crosslink between threads proper
>is a newfag that can't crosslink between threads proper
deepest plets
>>14361071
a0fd6e No.14450391
>>14449566
>that many pain elementals
f2737a No.14450401
>>14450334
What about the PC?
f2737a No.14450404
700390 No.14450430
>>14450363
>not deliberately using that notation to distinguish it from quotes within the same thread
Yours just looks like you're talking to someone in here.
b6b655 No.14450439
>>14450363
>(1)
>larper on patrol for wrongposting
>>>/gaschambers/
f2737a No.14450440
>>14450430
>Yours just looks like you're talking to someone in here.
If you're a newfag
2b3dc4 No.14450442
Any upcoming wads/mods/whatever you guys are looking forward to for your retro shooter of choice?
Quake champions came out and that was nice but nobody fucking played it,which is sad.
f2737a No.14450445
>>14450440
>LARP
>Online
Wew, why are newfags flooding the way of this thread?
d0ce21 No.14450448
>>14450212
Not a big fan of ROTT either really.
f2737a No.14450450
>>14450442
-Memoirs of Magic
-On Cosmic Tides
f2737a No.14450451
2b3dc4 No.14450453
>>14450450
Fancy names,what are they about?
f2737a No.14450470
>>14450453
Cartoony violence with various types of characters that play differently and Bounty Hunting on Alien planets.
700390 No.14450489
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>>14450440
>>14450445
Just bugger off and fap or something if you're so bored you want to pick at irrelevant shit. Ideally the board would indicate cross-thread posts like it does (You)rs but it doesn't. I do it for politeness.
>>14450448
Understandable, it hasn't aged well, and was an anachronism even in its day for being a block-based map like Wolfenstein even if it had a couple of edges over Doom. Not quite as badly as Blake Stone but still.
0f895a No.14450594
Does Blood still change your difficulty or whatever if you die in whatever that newer port attempt is called? God I hope they never try to revive it like nudoom and nuwolf
e0b693 No.14450614
>>14450594
Blood is in trademark hell due to Atari still existing and Monolith is being raped by Warner Bros.
So no, it's not happening
not anytime soon at least
0f895a No.14450620
2b3dc4 No.14450791
>>14450470
Bounty hunting huh,that makes me wonder if anybody has made a metroid mod/wad for any of the engines.
7ab4f0 No.14450799
>tfw no one cares about Eradicator
676542 No.14450811
>>14449398
The shotgun in this game is still one of my favorites. Blowing off limbs with it is really fun.
>>14449494
>the torrents also got removed from freegoggames
goodolddownloads.com
this still has all of them as DDL. Also unrelated but interesting to note is that this also has the old downloads for Recettear and Chantelise which are no longer available from GOG. Good website, has way more games than freegogpcgames
e0b693 No.14450818
>>14450799
What is it anon?
019e0e No.14450869
>>14450818
>>14450799
>eradicator
all I know about it is this ass.
2b3dc4 No.14450882
>>14450869
That is a nice ass.
6eee21 No.14450907
>>14449461
You'd think that poseurs would hold up Marathon as some kind of standard as to how merge a "thinking man's" story with "braindead" shooter gameplay.
b6b655 No.14450934
>>14450907
the pretense that a game is smart and is therefore better is the stupidest thing possible. I've seen hundreds of faggots do it, although it mostly comes from one camp in particular. If you have to use "smart" to describe why a game is good, you're already failing and embarrassing yourself.
eaeac4 No.14450954
>>14450934
If we had to describe our game in one word: "Badass!™"
700390 No.14451138
>playing JPCP
>reach this map
The craziest bit is that there's an actual level built on top of that and you wouldn't know except from the automap.
328640 No.14451235
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14451138
That's so great, what does it look like in first person?
f30d50 No.14451248
>>14448830
>old farts and has-beens
How old is 30 in internet years?
700390 No.14451280
>>14451235
Well naturally some of it doesn't exist on the map like the text and most of the middle panel. Basically any dark lines. The cream ones do however form map features.
Also Engrish is amusing to me.
1cc770 No.14451302
>>14449523
>playing an FPS with a controller
e0b693 No.14451307
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Has La Tailor girl been released yet?
355d35 No.14451317
Ever since I started playing Quake 1 running at a fixed speed everywhere can't hold my interest any more. What games are there with core movement mechanics which aren't Quake derivatives?
39a53e No.14451329
>>14451317
High Noon Drifter for Doom has a slide mechanic that lets you dodge under enemy fire and zip around.
676542 No.14451338
>>14451280
You can get a map overlay in doom? How?
57ed48 No.14451403
700390 No.14451411
>>14451317
This is the time for you to learn speed tech and get the most mileage out of those games. It's particularly fun in Hexen 2 because they had to have a higher speed cap for things like the boots of speed.
>>14451307
That's been released for a while. It's on 1.45a right now but due to update again soon.
>>14451338
Not in vanilla, but certain source ports add one. That's an option in GZDoom which originated from ZDoomGL, and yes, it's really convenient.
0fa6f5 No.14451426
>>14451317
Unreal has a dodge. Not great for getting from point A to point B faster, but it's cool in fights and works for any platforming you might do.
e0b693 No.14451566
>>14451411
Aye, thanks
>>14451403
In 5-10 years maybe
8eb241 No.14451589
Started playing Unreal, got into the mines so far. I feel like I'm missing something - the AI is pretty great and it's refreshing to see them move around and dodge your attacks intelligently, but the overall gameplay and level design feels like rather tedious. Does it get better further down the line or should I move on to something else?
7ab4f0 No.14451646
>>14451589
Finished it some time ago, don't quit on Terraniux, those shitty shield enemies aren't around for many levels outside of those few, it does get more fun once you get a few more guns in your arsenal but there's a few part that just aren't fun to play latter on like that one level in almost total darkness that's filled with RL wielding enemies.
1680af No.14451728
>>14448830
>BLOOD ISN'T DOOM
THATS RIGHT
GUTS IS DOOM
BLOOD AAAAAND GUTS
e0b693 No.14451760
>>14451728
BJ, Doomguy and Keen are all the ancestors of Guts, it's the same timeline
1adbd5 No.14451790
>>14451760
Pre Bethesda BJ I assume
17955c No.14451807
>>14449553
That wad was made by the dude with the crazy mutating cow/lamb videos.
c33b91 No.14451812
>>14451790
Because otherwise Guts is a Jew.
321fce No.14451830
>>14451760
>ancestors
Berserk takes place in the future? I should reread the manga.
355d35 No.14451849
>>14451589
The game is more about exploration/engine tech than anything so if the environments aren't doing anything for you then you're probably not going to get much out of it. The weapons are worth seeing, especially if you're not familiar with them already from UT.
42e2c3 No.14451863
>>14450869
>Eradicator
Nice. It's on GOG now.
e0b693 No.14451888
>>14451830
>Ancestors
I meant descendants, fuck
>>14451790
Of course
88b2da No.14451903
>>14451589
I thought the Unreal level design was great aside from the the Skaarj spaceship levels, and fortunately there aren't too many of them.
>>14451646
That level isn't so bad, because you should know where you need to go. If you go the fastest route you only have to fight two or three.
321fce No.14451923
>>14451888
It's alright, time is a loop anyway.
cbe728 No.14452788
>>14449033
>Are the damage values across difficulties still fucked in Blood?
For me it wasn't a screwed, unless you don't count Extra Crispy which was meant for multiplayer
>>14450331
The levels minus the ones with stealth section and the fucking Colombia are decent and sometimes I like the AI, but gun handling is screwed, and Raven managed to fuck up grenades. The main assault rifles are shitty to handle even with the gun inaccuracy off, thanks to the "simulated" recoil game provides. There's probably way to remove it in console, haven't got any luck with that. The fucking grenade system was a step down from the first one. I could probably bear that you need to lower your gun to throw it, but the fact you need to select your grenade and holster your damn weapon is an inconvenience at best and a fucking liability at worst and even then their effectiveness isn't that great since you take a year to cook the grenade without them trying to throw it back or away.
33e437 No.14452853
>>14450442
I'll play Quake Champions when it's got F2P tbh fam
ef5e47 No.14454240
Guess its time I make a comeback.
PREPARE FOR FUCKING DESCENT, FAGGOTS
https://mega.nz/#!J35W3I6Q!1cNH_A-9rg9CRTSLVfpDZz0ThegleUZhhV3cqh52z78 Descent 1 with DXRebirth
https://mega.nz/#!o6xHXCYT!Fat397TU6iq7mb-yp3J7RQgxTB2yi6F8X9Ru8vi-z0o Descent 2 with DXRebirth
>The fuck is Descent?
Its 6DOF baby. Think Doom but in every direction. It was made by Parallax (who half of which would split into Volition) and published by Interplay.
>Okay, what is DXRebirth?
A sourceport made for the two games that allow shit like a gentleman's resolution and support for modern gamepads as well as M+KB
>Is there multiplayer?
You bet your goddamn ass there is multiplayer. Not very lively now, so set up a server, get some anons, and get playing.
>Where can I buy this?
You can't. Interplay fucked up and didn't pay the right people when it was up on digital storefronts, so you pretty much can't anymore unless you hunt down an original copy, and then you gotta get shit working. Just use the links, faggot.
>I'm getting motion sick.
Stop being a fucking pussy.
>Okay, I've played em. Can I have some more?
Well, if you need more direct action, there's Descent 3. Its not as good, but its something if you need it. There's also the Freespace games which, while not the exact same, is by Volition, half the team that made these. There's also three 'spiritual successors' that are coming around so look out for those I guess.
>Spiritual successors you say?
Well there's three main ones. Descent: Underground, made by a bunch of fans who got the license from Interplay that's apparently recreating the multiplayer but its Early Access and apparently sucks dick. There's Overload, a more true single-player spiritual successor by some of the original Parallax devs that is closer to the originals with closed enviornments, lots of weapons, shit to shoot, and all that stuff, but its also in Early Access. Then there's Sol Contingency, a game by some former Interplay devs that was originally gonna be a remake of the original, but now seems to be a new affair with a multiplayer focus and a demo out there if you care http://sol-contingency.com/builds/Sol_Contingency_PG_Install_1.0.exe .
NOW ITS TIME TO PLAY SOME MOTHERFUCKIN' DESCENT
e0b693 No.14454276
>>14454240
top tier pasta anon
I'll play it right now
5a182e No.14454475
>>14454240
Yeah, what >>14454276 said. Do you ever host?
7ab4f0 No.14454529
>>14454240
>but its Early Access and apparently sucks dick
Can confirm, even the 3 bucks I spent on the bundle to get it is too much for that thing
cc5452 No.14454558
>>14454240
Is there anything like DXRebirth but for Descent 3?
947634 No.14454636
>>14454240
There's also Sublevel Zero, an indie early access Descent clone that's a roguelite. It wasn't great, last time I tried it, but that was a few years ago.
7ab4f0 No.14454713
Also speaking of 6DOF shooters, any way to play Forsaken on modern PCs that doesn't involve using the sourceport that lacks music or emulating the console versions?
afaik using the original version isn't an option either.
947634 No.14454737
>>14454680
Yeah, that's pretty much my opinion on it, but there's a minuscule chance they made it actually good by now. It's on gog, so pirating it is ridiculously easy.
afee8a No.14454839
>>14454240
where can i get just the DXRebirth?
Also worth mentioning there's the Aquanox trilogy,basically Descent underwater
2e3eeb No.14455349
>>14454240
Thank you, I was kicking myself for forgetting to download Descent 2 the last time you posted this
8eb241 No.14455385
If there are any mapper anons, I need your help.
I'm working on a uni assignment and I need a dozen freedoom2.wad compatible flat maps with no sprite decorations, pickups, doors and enemies, just barebones corridors and rooms. Could somebody fire up Slade and churn out some of this stuff?
0b308f No.14455394
>>14451760
You keep that jew's name and Guts out of the same sentence, creep.
b28532 No.14455712
I remember being a naive and innocent kiddo at a Gateway store with my parents when they were looking for a computer. It was late at night and while they talked with an employee I gazed up at the original Aliens vs Predator in awe. It was terrifying for the few minutes I played until we left.
I asked for it that Christmas and my folks got a Dell.
I nearly pissed myself and freaked out all through that week trying to make it through the game, I was already terrified of the movie Aliens which I saw at a friends house (I wasn't allowed near anything that violent) and it was some miracle or mishap my parents didn't catch what Aliens vs Predator was.
I always played it at night too when my family was asleep which didn't help. The winter wind would be howling, and I had to summon all my courage many a time to go down one more hallway or explore a blip pinging nearby.
Gawd I fucking hate you Aliens vs Predator, I love and despise you.
d0ce21 No.14457346
>>14454240
>You bet your goddamn ass there is multiplayer. Not very lively now, so set up a server, get some anons, and get playing.
How many players max? Maybe we should do an off-weekend.
42e2c3 No.14457606
>>14454240
Does this include the CD soundtracks?
ef5e47 No.14457633
>>14454558
Not as far as I know, probably because its on a different engine or some shit.
>>14454475
I don't personally since my internet sucks dick but I occasionally like to join ones I see hosted.
>>14454839
Color me intrigued. I also remember playing something similar, I think it was one of the Colony Wars games and I vaguely remember liking it. I think it was vengeance
>>14457606
It does have the music, I don't think it has the soundtrack separately though.
>>14457346
IIRC, 16 is the max
ef5e47 No.14457638
>>14454839
Oh, and since I forgot to answer, its not hard to find if ya look for it online.
6eee21 No.14457657
>>14457606
I don't know whether the MEGA link contains the DXX-Rebirth installer, but it allows you to pick which soundtrack (SC-55, OPL3, AWE32, Redbook) you want to install for both Descent 1 and 2, on top of some other things: http://www.dxx-rebirth.com/download/dxx/user/afuturepilot/download.php
Note that it installs an older version of DXX-Rebirth, you'll have to get the newest one from the main website and copy its files to wherever you just installed it. The newest version makes homing missiles in Descent 1 actually behave as intended so they're considerably less anal now.
ef5e47 No.14457681
>>14457657
I actually had it all bundled up with it pre-installed, but that's neat. I should probably update the zips in Mega links to 0.6 now that I think on it
afee8a No.14458070
>>14457633
just make sure to be careful when running it on anything past Win7,issues may vary
dcdc0f No.14458145
>>14458070
>webum
Das a noice music man
0356d1 No.14458194
>>14457346
I would totally be up for a gamenight. I tried introducing it to normalfags but they couldn't stomach the graphics. And multiplayer was dead last I checked. Anons are the only people left that I know would be up for playing.
c190ed No.14458473
>>14454240
Playing through the first 5 or so levels of D1, not gonna lie the level design is kinda shit so far, hopefully it gets better
6eee21 No.14458486
>>14458473
Oh boy, come back to us with your thoughts after you have finished level 6.
c190ed No.14458680
>>14458486
>dude the instant you see me half your health is gone :^)
GOD, FUCK THESE HITSCANNING NIGGERS
39a53e No.14458733
>>14458680
>big think.png
Is it possible to program Doom enemies to do a specific thing upon being seen by the player? That'd make for some neat behavior.
dcdc0f No.14458747
>>14458733 (checked)
Seems so: https://zdoom.org/wiki/A_JumpIfInTargetLOS
If it should be a once only thing then you need to give this monster a item so that it doesn't do the jump anymore when it changed its state.
39a53e No.14458765
4d6122 No.14460300
What level is that in second pic? I don't remember that.
Are there any WW2 doom wads preferably playing as the good guys? If not I'll take anything.
afee8a No.14460303
Bumping one last tme before bed with game suggestion
5a62ff No.14460500
>>14450799
I still remember downloading the Eradicator demo from happypuppy and playing the shit out of it. I dug that little RC car you could deploy.
There was another demo of a first-person RPG-lite game I got from happypuppy that I've been trying to remember the name of for years, it looked similar to Elder Scrolls and had skeletons and red potions and shit. There may have also been grid-based inventory management or I'm just remembering it wrong.
2130a0 No.14460551
Ken Silverman released the BUILD2 engine which he worked on at a summer camp to teach programming to children.
http://advsys.net/ken/buildsrc/build2.htm
>In the summer of 2006, I was mentoring a smart local kid how to do 3D graphics on the CPU. What started as a simple rotating texture-mapped cube turned into a full blown successor to the Build Engine. By 2007, Build2 was far enough along to be used at a summer camp. At the camp, the kids signed up to create their own 3D games. The kids got to learn something and make their own 3D games, while I got free beta testing and a negligible salary for 2 weeks. It was a tough job, but it was rewarding in the end. So I continued doing it for 2 more summers. Then the camp suddenly lost enrollment and with no reason to continue on the project, I lost interest.
>Many of the features in BUILD2 were things I planned to do with the original Build Engine, but never had a chance to try back then. I'd say the most difficult feature by far to implement was the dynamic lighting with shadows.
>Here are some new features of BUILD2 over the classic Build Engine:
>Native Windows, 32-bit color, 6 degrees of freedom, pure CPU rendering
>Native support for sector over sector (SOS).
>Advanced lighting system with true dynamic shadows, colors, spotlights.
>Multi-user editing with client-side prediction.
>Powerful scripting compiler in EVALDRAW.
>Full RGB color mapping.
>Voxel sprite support.
>Skybox support.
>No sector/wall/sprite count limits.
Jewtube video with a demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qtmkkdND6M
5a182e No.14461366
>>14458747
>A_JumpIfInTarget
Unrelated, but I remember a few years back on 4chan, a guy claiming to have created the first instance of jumping in Doom. I can't remember exactly how he said he did it, but the technique involved using some value for explosions that launch you vertically.
Fixed 'FPS games' to 'Doom'
0b308f No.14461387
>>14449612
Shut up, dickwad
60b1f9 No.14461714
>>14460551
Look's bretty cool. I'll just wait until someone makes yet another slightly inaccurate Blood sourceport for the 40th time out of this.
b6b655 No.14461731
>>14460551
that's actually really neat.
185d9f No.14462247
>>14451807
>with the crazy mutating cow/lamb videos
Care to elaborate?
0acb44 No.14462263
>>14449467
>that artist
delete pixiv
355d35 No.14462339
>>14462247
Cyriak. If you've played Going Down you'll recognise this track, all the music in the wad is his own.
0acb44 No.14462350
>>14462339
I wish Cyriak would release an album or something, I like his music.
d3b0cc No.14462432
>ctrl + f Strife
>no results
Play Strife you fruitboys.
>>14449461
I remember people saying that Half-Life was the "thinking man's FPS" as recently as 2013.
2daf46 No.14462491
>>14458680
In fairness all enemies have a slight delay before they act on wake-up. Except on Nightmare! difficulty but that is deliberately unfair.
>>14462263
Don't delete Pixiv. Best Doom artist.
321fce No.14463338
>>14462491
>wow.wad fanart
Wow.
5a182e No.14463353
2daf46 No.14463745
Today I found out where that one WebM came from (Doom Hack) and made the effort to try it. Couldn't get too far into it since MAP03 has too much stuff in it and it becomes a slideshow, no real loss. Besides that I'm taking a break from hand-made and seeing what OBLIGE can do. It's pretty damn good for a randomized level maker.
>>14455385
Speaking of which, you could probably just do it yourself with SLIGE/OBLIGE and use -skill 0 to disable everything but the player starts. What the heck is that even for?
>>14463338
Great isn't it?
6c657e No.14464275
>>14449352
I don't get Hexen, just four weapons per class. You spend 90% of the game using the base weapon because ammo is scarce and it takes forever to find a new weapon. Also, thanks to the HUB map format and key hunting you backtrack all the fucking time.
Hexen 2 is even worse at that, I mean, mandatory secret hunting? What kind of bullshit is that?
04762d No.14464305
Maybe today wasn't the best day to host a gamenight.
da5175 No.14465950
>>14460551
the online level editing looks fun, i want a kens labyrinth 2
1964fb No.14465983
>>14464275
Hexen is better if you just turn on the infinite ammo hack and pretend its a "fix" for the game.
6c657e No.14466201
Was Heretic II decent? I only played the demo about 20 years ago and the amount of work required to make it work on recent systems seems to be too much to even bother.
afee8a No.14466301
>>14466201
>>14464275
Did you even read the thread title you motherfucker?Do you even know what 'FPS' stands for?
8eb241 No.14467858
>>14463745
>Speaking of which, you could probably just do it yourself with SLIGE/OBLIGE and use -skill 0 to disable everything but the player starts.
I'd have to compile the tools first, and under Fedora hunting down all the package dependencies is quite a pain in the ass. Figured I'd ask for help before wasting time on that.
>What the heck is that even for?
Uni project on computer vision, using bare bones maps makes things much easier for me.
39a53e No.14467869
>>14467858
You could also open up the maps OBLIGE generates into GZDoom Builder and then remove all monsters by basically highlighting them all and pressing delete.
a84587 No.14467898
>>14462432
This game is so underrated. The levels are so cool-looking and the hub towns are comfy as fuck.
>Rogue Entertainment also developed American McGee's Alice
Why do all the good devs have to die?
Also, does somebody know if Strife: Veteran Edition gave credit to the guy who reverse-engineered the game originally to run on modern sourceports? I like Night Dive for remastering old FPS games like this and the Turok games but I'm curious to know if they give credit where it's due.
2daf46 No.14467998
>>14465983
Nah Hexen has plenty of mana kicking around. Hexen II is stingier though especially for mana-hungry classes like the Necromancer. Paladin and Crusader have it way easier.
>>14466201
It's alright. Somewhat iffy controls in places but some of the weapons are really cool. But yeah not technically belonging to this thread it controls a bit more like Tomb Raider with actual action.
>>14467858
Fedora should have the ones you need. Current Debian does I just built OBLIGE literally yesterday. For what you're doing is Doom's primitive visuals even acceptable for what you're trying to do?
a84587 No.14468008
>>14467998
Since you answered the other anon about Heretic 2, is Hexen 2 worth playing? It looks fun but knowing hexen I'd imagine there'd be a fuckton of switch hunting. Is it better or worse than the first game in that regard?
2daf46 No.14468188
>>14468008
I'd say it's worth a try. However if you thought Hexen switch hunts were bad, oh boy. In Hexen II the overarching goal is usually finding key items but finding your way around sometimes requires finding tiny switches or secret walls. It gets particularly obnoxious in the third hub. The expansion episode is good at avoiding that sort of garbage thankfully but I won't hold it against you if you have to resort to a FAQ now and again for the base game. This is the game for obsessively destroying all breakable objects.
Beyond that there's balance issues. I advise playing Crusader if you feel like giving it a try since he has a great weapon selection (ice staff is weak but when tomed it is god-tier) and level-up abilities. Paladin is solid too. If you're playing the expansion the new character works great. Avoid the other 2 since their early game is suffering and the Necromancer has some serious mana issues. All classes except Necromancer will default to their 4th weapon once they get it with a few exceptions. For whatever reason the necro's raven staff has mana consumption typical of the first game's 4th weapon but it's weak.
There is a barebones RPG system, where killing enemies gives you exp and level-ups add to your max HP/mana and stats. It's all automatic thankfully and some only of marginal benefit. The major gain is at level 3 and 6 where your class gets a specific ability I'll just direct you to the manual for those, but the weakest ones belong to the assassin since they don't work with the game style.
Also if you've ever used Quake speed tech it's even more ridiculous in Hexen II. The speedrun of the game is pretty great.
473090 No.14469272
>>14450620
On one hand I'm glad it keeps some third party from digging up its corpse and "re-imagining" it for modern audiences, on the other hand it's also the reason we will likely never see a proper sourceport.
d864c6 No.14469512
>>14469272
if it's been 10+ years and there still hasn't been one,it's safe to say that they don't intend to do so ever
60b1f9 No.14471911
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Speaking of Blood, there are so many of those fucking Blood ports to Zdoom nowadays. This one looks to be the most accurate to original Blood out of all the Zdoom ports even though it will never be 100% accurate.
1adbd5 No.14472674
Are there any info pics for recommended FPS games?
1adbd5 No.14473183
anyone mind uploading the GOG installer for Eradicator?
f44c3a No.14473209
222426 No.14473300
>>14472674
Not quite what you're looking for, but relevant nonetheless. Infographic of the currently best Doom2 player in UV Max.
182123 No.14473446
>>14473300
i felt like i was going fucking crazy looking at this anon
79ee42 No.14473652
>>14473300
To be honest, it would be a more of an achievement if he wasn't beating 16 year old times latest Compet-N entry in that category for Doom2.wad and someone actually had interest in doing d2all maxes.
e25a6c No.14473675
How are you supposed to play Blood? The only way that seems to work is to slowly crawl across the maps, doing backdtracking after entering a room, running away after using TNT/flaregun/whatever.
It doesn't really feel like an "action" game.
da12dc No.14474161
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>>14473652
she*
I think at this point she literally has double D breasts after being on the meme juice for only 6 months.
She has the Doom 2, TNT and Plutonia world records.
If you were bothered to be fair to her accomplishments, you'd see her game is really good.
2daf46 No.14474213
>>14474161
>running against a barrier for a second
>83% items
Looks pretty weaksauce and would fall instantly to any real competition. Not an ideal game for a 100% category either.
41fbd5 No.14474242
>>14472674
All I have is these ones from cuck/vr/. They're probably dated, and the Duke one suggests fucking purchasing Duke Nukem 3d: 20th World Tour Anniversary.
>>14473300
Oh fuck off you faggot. Nobody wants to hear your narcissistic gloating. Speedrunning is the second stupidest shit about this hobby, right next to the fucking dead multiplayer. Cuck/vr/ thinks you're me for whatever fucking reason, making me hate you even more.
0acb44 No.14474316
>>14474288
>CoD and Gaylo on the list
It's mostly good until you get to "okay" tier, I feel like some of the games there are too low like SS2 and some are too high, like Homefront.
171f84 No.14474342
>>14474242
Seriously though how the fuck are Threewave CTF and Clan Arena mods not on the damn Quake chart? There should be a blurb about that under multiplayer as well as something about Zoid and QuakeWorld. ideally there would be a link to download a registered copy of the Qizmo Quake proxy too since it helps internet play
0bbd74 No.14474349
>>14474242
>the Duke one suggests fucking purchasing Duke Nukem 3d: 20th World Tour Anniversary.
Did you even read the pic? It doesn't suggest so. And it probably was made before World Tour Anniversary came out, because the pic still mentions Megaton Edition which was removed after World Tour came out.
2daf46 No.14474359
>>14474288
>no Rise of the Triad, original or remake
>Wolfenstein 3D in shit-tier alongside DNF and Trespasser
Original ROTT goes to good, remake to OK. Wolfenstein 3D goes to good.
0acb44 No.14474386
>>14474359
Wolfenstein 3D shouldn't be on the list at all.
It's historically significant and interesting, but it's very primitive and repetitive. It's effectively a Doom prototype.
019e0e No.14474387
>>14474288
>Turok
>shit tier
((((You)))) are shit tier.
b6b655 No.14474389
>>14474387
turok's always been pretty shit. the levels are just garbage.
7ab4f0 No.14474433
>>14474387
The 2008 one is in shit-tier not the others.
da12dc No.14474452
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>>14474213
The non-100% items ratings are due to bugs as explained by the runner themselves (the areas are the same in multiplayer as in solo, but some of them are only reachable in the former case), but to know that would require actually not wanting to dismiss their accomplishments for no good reason and not being biased.
Everything you've said is unfounded until now, so I don't know buddy. Why don't you give it a try?
660b67 No.14474477
>>14474452
>shilling for e-celebs
>caring about speedruns
Jesus Christ, you're fucking pathetic.
7ab4f0 No.14474490
>>14474161
>>14474452
>Basically uncontested WRs
I too can find a game with near no recent run and shove a 1hr improvements down the previous holder throat doesn't actually make me good at the game, just better than the previous guy.
ef5e47 No.14474493
>>14474288
>codblops above wolfenstein 3D
This list was made by a faggot
027620 No.14474499
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>>14474477
this idiot has been shilling this tranny in every single doom or retrofps thread these days, thinks that abomination is hot shit and we should care about it because "it defined what doom really is!!11" or some shit like that
660b67 No.14474509
>>14474499
>it's a tranny speedrunning e-celeb
Holy shit, it's like a trifecta of faggotry. Where's John Numbers when you need him?
42e2c3 No.14474514
>>14474509
Funnily enough that tranny got banned from ADGQ for shitting on other trannies.
41fbd5 No.14474516
>>14474499
It's pretty fucking obvious that it's the tranny himself that's doing it. It'd be funny to think that there's some autist out there who wants to fuck this psycho fucker, but that's just not true, unless we're talking Buffalo Bill style.
027620 No.14474527
>>14474514
this tranny is also a friend of britbong, the only thing that is interesting on his channel are the videos of the tranny BTFO'ing some pedos on stream
2daf46 No.14474542
>>14474452
I'm aware that sort of issue can happen on a couple of levels due to secret sector placement behind teleporters (Industrial Zone), or presence of multiple computer area maps (Monster Condo) but this is not one of them and that run is invalid.
>Why don't you give it a try?
I don't need to lay an egg to be able to smell a bad one. Besides what >>14474490 says.
250002 No.14474557
>>14450331
I really liked that level
0bbd74 No.14474591
>>14454240
What about Descent 3 and Freespace games?
Freespace totally counts as a retro fps
2b3dc4 No.14474598
>>14474557
That last guy dying,that was discomforting.
250002 No.14474642
>>14474598
Yeah there's a few death animations like that.
f994b2 No.14474853
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>>14474490
Doom 2 is only like the most iconic FPS of all time with some of the most skilled players to have ever played competitively, but, you know what, your argument makes sense.
f994b2 No.14474876
>>14474514
She got banned because someone else put a maga hat on her head, which you will be able to verify by watching the live stream.
7ab4f0 No.14474892
>>14474853
Doom 2 being iconic doesn't actually mean there's a lot of competing runners on full WAD runs, most of the leaderboards are 1-4 name longs if they're not empty
I mean you don't have to take my word for it
You can also look at the few category that fature Cyber and other current and active runner like ZeroMaster and Cubeface, granted ZeroMaster is basically god so it's kinda hard to compete.
ef5e47 No.14474952
>>14474591
I believe Freespace has its own separate sourceport and shit. Descent 3 doesn't have one as far as I know.
79ee42 No.14474986
>>14474161
I don't see "I've grinded the routes that were here for more than twenty damn years" being worthy of boasting about, especially considering how the rest of runners are fine with just being at the top of IL tables.
f994b2 No.14475037
>>14474986
That's literally what speedrunning is derivative of : the exploits accumulated by previous generations of runners.
It's like saying : oh, chess is easy, because they're just "playing the same plays that were here for more than 1200 damn years".
That's how retarded you sound right now. I hope you realize that.
f994b2 No.14475089
>>14474892
Do you when the 100m record (female) was set? 1988. That's 20 years ago.
From which you will hopefully be able to derive that the year in which a record was set has no bearing.
947634 No.14475110
>>14475089
>(female)
Nothing is going to change the presence of that Y chromosome.
6eee21 No.14475177
Maybe this is not entirely the right thread to ask, but AMID EVIL just got released on Early Access. Does anyone have a torrent link?
f994b2 No.14475193
>>14475110
you're so paranoiac about it, you don't even realize what you're replying to or in fact what is being discussed at all.
e25a6c No.14475243
How are you supposed to play Blood? The only way that seems to work is to slowly crawl across the maps, doing backdtracking after entering a room, running away after using TNT/flaregun/whatever.
It doesn't really feel like an "action" game.
660b67 No.14475249
>>14475193
>you're so paranoiac about it
Well, at least you're starting to recognize it's not female. Now, stop shitting up the thread with your e-celeb faggotry.
f994b2 No.14475404
>>14475249
The "100m record (female)" was established by a female, born female and otherwise female in every sense of the term that your pea-sized brain can make sense of and comprehend.
947634 No.14475535
>>14475404
You brought up the female record as if that is what cyber would be competing for, which would be false, because he isn't a girl.
a84587 No.14475604
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>thread derailed because of an irrelevant tranny e-celeb speedrunner
Let's get back to talking about old FPS games. What do you guys think of SiN? I think it's a pretty underrated game but even the GOG version can be a real bitch to get running properly.
33020b No.14475630
>>14474161
>>14474452
>>14474853
UV MAX IS DOGSHIT
'FUUUUUCKING DOGSHIIIIIIIT
9c7512 No.14475631
Does Hellbreaker count? I've been having fun with that one.
a84587 No.14475639
>>14475631
Was that the game made by one of the /agdg/ anons? Or am I remembering it wrong?
dd3c6a No.14475649
>>14475604
I couldnt get it to run properly like 10 years ago even, I have no clue what sort of spit and glue they used to stick that thing together but it ain't holding no more.
What's the consensus on Ion Maiden, is it everything it looks cracked up to be so far? Have to say I'm tempted by it.
027620 No.14475667
>>14475639
correct though it feels incomplete in some areas
660b67 No.14475672
>>14475604
I can't even put my finger on why, but the first game is probably one of my favorite FPS titles of all time. It's a real shame it was completely overshadowed by Half-Life, since the level design and interactivity was damn fine for its time and the mission variety is rather impressive. Of course, it has some serious problems, mostly due to its overambitious nature and those fucking silenced sniper rifles. Unfortunately, I could never get the expansion pack to run on any of my computers and to this day, I'm still butthurt that the sequel flopped.
>>14475649
>What's the consensus on Ion Maiden
Wait a while, because there's no content.
a84587 No.14475673
>>14475649
I'm definitely interested to play it when it's released, I've seen gameplay videos of the preview and it looks pretty solid.
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1adbd5 No.14475841
>>14473300
awesome, thanks guys
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7ab4f0 No.14477426
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>>14475089
>From which you will hopefully be able to derive that the year in which a record was set has no bearing.
In Speedrunning you get new ways to achieve better times all the time, embed related, the playing field is never even when comparing against runs that are years older than yours, especially when you're exclusively competing in unpopular categories.
79ee42 No.14478700
>>14475037
Yeah, player that has been solving the same chess puzzle which has been solved for 750 years already and thus, interests so few he may as well be the only one who is interested in it, is certainly better chess player than the one who solves newer, trickier, unsolved puzzles.
"Beating the dead horse" is, probably, the most suitable expression to describe what he's doing, but giving him title of the best horseback rider for that? Not happening m8.
2daf46 No.14479008
>>14478700
Speedrunning is never "solved" for this sort of game, because there's always improvements to be made. An exemplar of this is Quake's E4M5 which has the same route throughout all Quake Done Quick videos, originally 16 seconds. Quicker improved it to 12 through grenade jumping off several enemies. Quickest is ~8 seconds through addition of bunny hopping to preserve the damage boost speed.
>>14475089
Depends. It could indicate they were an absolute god that no one can measure up, or that nobody cares enough to try and beat it. It's the latter in this case. Seriously UV Max Run is too long and cluttered and few care to do it, like certain 100% Zelda runs. The real meat is the individual level runs or standard Run categories where you just try to finish the levels ASAP.
000000 No.14479217
>decided to get hdoom because fuck you
>spent whole night trying various cool wads
>don't really understand why these are not separate vidya, instead of aaa-cut-scene-corridors
also brutaldood is shit for babbys
DemonSteele is real deal quality stuff you have katana and 5 lives git gud
e0b693 No.14480549
>>14479217
Brutaldood is good
Just overrated and overtaken by journos and Reddit
Demonsteele is top tier stuff, agreed
f41ccf No.14481160
I keep seeing Demonsteel recommend by v-tards, but it looks like shite tbh m8
815097 No.14481230
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>>14481160
Look up Final Doomer. It's all classes based around various Doom megawads but they don't go over the top and they are balanced for their respective wad. The class for the japanese megawad uses weeb-looking weapons and unsheathes a katana for his melee.
39a53e No.14481370
>>14481160
It's a neat mod that mostly translates DMC style gameplay to Doom, but feels a little off with odd controls and first person view.
f41ccf No.14481413
>>14481230
Thanks, I liked what I saw.
Especially the animation for the sword draw back. Much better than DS, which doesn't even have one.
But, there's something odd still about the fighting animation from a first person view as the other anon pointed out.
e9fd64 No.14485729
Are there mods for heretic/hexen to add minions? I wanna be a necromancer/demonologist.
38b7c4 No.14485757
>>14485729
The Wrath of Cronos mod has a necromancer class and I also think the cleric class has a summon as well. The downloads for it are all dead in the zdoom forum thread though, i'm uploading all the wads I have for it to vola right now I'll link when it's done.
There's also a mod that combines the weapons in the mod heXercise with the Wrath of Cronos mod, the download for that is still up though
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=45036
38b7c4 No.14485767
628895 No.14485855
>>14449546
fuck off cyberdemon
dc4726 No.14487878
>>14462432
Trying to make mods for this game is suffering. Want to replace the game's upgrade system with something more interesting? Well the MAP14 transmitter's here to shit on you from the greatest height possible.
dc4726 No.14488158
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So Pillowblaster is still working on Guncaster inb4 autistic screeching about furry
60b1f9 No.14489780
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>>14488158
Speaking of Doom mods, I'm waiting for first-person Wario Land to be playable.
39a53e No.14489786
>>14488158
I'm curious about the DoomRL support considering I can't get it to work post-GZ 2.1.1
2daf46 No.14489803
>>14489786
Hmm? You mean the DoomRL mod or support for it with Guncaster? Because I can at least boot the latest DoomRL weapon set on a somewhat recent Git build. Haven't played it very far it was just a test yesterday.
>>14485757
That one though, has been like pulling teeth for whoever took it over.
39a53e No.14489810
>>14489803
Was talking about DoomRL Arsenal yeah.
b3a829 No.14489825
>>14474288
What's the recommended Quake sourceport?
Or should I just run it in DOSBOX?
4611aa No.14489837
>>14489825
Quakespasm is pretty good if you want a vanilla-like experience on modern systems with high resolution. It also works nicely with Quakeinjector, so installing custom maps will be easy.
2daf46 No.14490092
>>14489810
Well yeah I tried it a bit further and the weapon side of it loads on current Git but shows quite a few warnings on startup so it may not be reliable. Try at your risk.
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e9fd64 No.14490139
>>14485767
>>14485757
Wow thanks anon I was having heaps of fun with this. I don't like how you can only have one summon up at a time. Is it meant to work like that? Kinda defeats the purpose of having multiple summon spells which you unlok incrementally if you can only use one at a time.
e071e6 No.14490146
>>14448830
are all you doombabbies always this whiny?
e7838d No.14490164
>>14490146
did you really have no better bait to use than this?
e9fd64 No.14490171
>>14490139
Oh, I was looking around and apparently one of the later patches actually changes this! Does anyone have 1.8a handy?
e9fd64 No.14490184
>>14490171
https://allfearthesentinel.net/zandronum/wads.php?name=cronos&order=date_desc
I actually found a wrath of cronos 2 here but I cant' see any documentation about it, and it doesn't load in gzdoom. What gives?
2daf46 No.14490206
>>14490184
The original author vanished and some other guy took over. In the ZDoom forum thread for it he's having difficulty with GZDoom compatibility and not sure why.
e9fd64 No.14490211
>>14490206
Oh, so I should just run it through zandronum or something?
2daf46 No.14490235
>>14490211
No it's just newer GZDoom versions. I don't know what the cutoff is since I can't be bothered to check. I was sort of interested in the mod but not if I have to juggle versions of the game around.
e9fd64 No.14490693
>>14490235
Took the easy way out and started playing in hexen. This is so cool, I wish there were more games with this kind of fast paced shooting gameplay + necromancy.
dc4726 No.14492763
>>14490693
If you're looking for something else to scratch your necro itch, there's a old as fuck Doom mod called Satanic. You have blood magic that you use to raise enemies, take their decapitated heads to use as grenades, summon ghosts, etc.
Pic related is from something called Satanic Redux which apparently is made by somebody unaffiliated with the mod's original makers.
1cf44e No.14492864
Any other oldfags remember this gem?
0ece86 No.14493062
>>14449468
That's not what the Dunning-Kruger paper actually found, you pop-science article reading fuck.
af45cf No.14493076
>>14489825
Vanilla - Quakespasm
Mods and shit - Darkplaces or FitzQuake
Multiplayer - nQuake/EZQuake
e46736 No.14493279
Oh man I gotta check this Half Nuked shit out now. Looks pretty dope.
>>14449352
>Hexen
>not Heretic
And you call other people gay
>>14454240
Good to see I'm not the only one that plays it. Still you need a proper gamepad to play this, flight stick is probably the best.
>>14474288
>look down pic
>no ReVolution
>no Nosferatu
>no Mortyr
>no realms of the haunting
>no gunman chronicles
>no devastation
>no die hard
>no chrome
I get that most of them aren't that good or are out-right terrible, but come on if you are going to make a picture like that try to include everything. Still whoever made that has complete shit taste and that goes double for whoever saves that piece of crap.
>>14492763
This looks cool, thanks, seem like this one slipped past me.
0b308f No.14493323
>>14474884
>the Method Man of vidya
He's…alright
233815 No.14494152
>>14492763
Cool. Can I use it in hexen?
c3f30a No.14494685
>>14474288
Trespasser is not a FPS. That's like saying Metroid prime is a FPS
ea3782 No.14501600
>>14501554
Rest in pieces, Dookie
af3f4b No.14501764
>>14450907
Marathon had some sort of magic atmosphere to it though that made you fall in love.
6c0ee6 No.14502400
>>14493076
>Vanilla - Quakespasm
>Mods and shit - Darkplaces or FitzQuake
God, you're fucking retarded.
2daf46 No.14505275
>>14492763
If there's one thing I get sick of with mods, it's seeing ripped sprites everywhere. Just the nature of the beast I guess that it attracts more programmer and gameplay types than graphic artists.
>>14502400
He says without even bothering to correct him.
>>14501554
Those are some thick gears.
20cc92 No.14506282
>>14449628
>touhou character
>tranny
This is not your sjw shit
60b1f9 No.14506323
>>14506282
He's referring to >>14449546 for the tranny post ya fuckwit.
7d2d89 No.14506848
>>14502400
How? What's your fuckin beef you sperglord?
6e1e84 No.14508552
Why's it so fun to make Doom levels?
Why do I feel like such a retard for spending half an hour trying to get a simple script to change a wall texture to work when all I had to do was load zcommon.acs at the start?
1adbd5 No.14509712
>>14474288
>SIN
those look pretty neat, I've got a lot from the God and Great tier but have never heard of those
60b1f9 No.14511649
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
Might as well post this in case anyone is interested.
1adbd5 No.14512873
>>14511649
how can new games even compete?
5f13df No.14512885
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Obligatory. Someone else can Hooktube it if they really want to but DF gets all their money from Patreon anyways and AFAIF they've done nothing wrong to not warrant support
1adbd5 No.14512898
>>14512885
that looks great, sign me the fuck u-
>early access
… hrm…
815097 No.14513297
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Don't know if anyone already knew by now, but GMOTA got updated a week ago.
>>14512873
It's telling when a mod that copies a game offers more content than the game it's based off of.
2b3dc4 No.14513336
>>14511649
Shame the multiplayer servers are DEAD AS FUCK
1adbd5 No.14513954
>>14513297
damn, that looks great too.
also
>>14509712
I noticed the sequel is episodic but was cancelled after 1 episode. Does it feel like a complete game with an ending or will it leave me wanting more?
8326f2 No.14514009
>>14454240
I'm assuming I need a joystick, right? What are the options for purchasing and how expensive are we talking here?
0fb0ee No.14514065
>>14514009
You don't need a joystick, but I'd recommend playing with one. This game was one of the first games I owned and bought my first joystick specifically for it.
91bd7c No.14514160
>>14512873
Quake and Doom have so many experienced Modders that all the new blood coming in with their game design degrees can't hope to compete.
5a62ff No.14514310
>>14513954
it ends on a cliffhanger. you might BRIEFLY want more, then you'll forget about it and move on as we all have. after all, sometimes it's better for a series to stay dead, especially post Current Year, lest you end up with a Duke Forever or a NuMale'sDOOM.
1adbd5 No.14514352
>>14514310
cool, I just didn't want it to end on a soul crushing cliffhanger. Is it a game that's got replay value?
1adbd5 No.14514758
in FEAR does the trigger on the RPL sub machine gun stick a bit? Feel like when I let off the mouse it still fires just a bit.
2daf46 No.14515871
Went looking for that one WAD with a lot of full brightness levels. It was just the Raven series ones, and yeah pretty mediocre but OK, fun to revisit. It also happened to have another level I wanted to find with a whole lot of blue keys, sadly they were just for show and not part of a choose your route approach to the level.
>>14508552
I'm getting the itch to try this again but I've never checked what editing tools exist for Linux. Strangely Doom Builder is open source but coded solely to Windows. Might also be fun to do one in WADED for old time's sake.
e98d12 No.14515932
>>14514758
You can do funny tests with the SMG and the rifle, try to tap the fire, count how many shots you hear, how many tracers you see, and how many bullet hole decals you see. Then go and actually shoot a replica, and see what it looks like. It's really bizarre but I think with the submachine gun in particular, the sound effect for it is actually of two shots for every actual round.
5a62ff No.14516162
>>14514352
not a whole lot in the way of replay value, there are hidden dopefish secrets to find in the levels; I can't recall if finding them does anything or not but either way dopefish is cool.
aside from the dopefish there actually are a decent amount of secrets and easter eggs for such a short game, there was a good secrets FAQ hosted on planetquake, and still accessible from archive.org:
https://web.archive.org/web/20090414125037/http://aeons.planetquake.gamespy.com/aeons-php/sin_emergence_faq.php
at the very least it's a nice game to come back to every couple of years and wonder what might have been had ritual not been bought out and made to develop casual games as MumboJumbo instead.
ef5e47 No.14516222
>>14514009
With the sourceport, you can use a joystick if you really want, but M+KB is also an option as well as just using a controller. I've gotten it working using a cheapo Logitech controller
1adbd5 No.14517068
>>14515932
That makes sense, I had to do the directinput fix to unlock the framerate so I was hoping that didn’t mess with the game.
1adbd5 No.14517183
also, kind of a silly question but does anyone know a solid mouse pad? been playing a lot of FPS games recently and I'd like something comfortable for my wrist.
7a18b7 No.14517487
Any of you fags ever play Kiss Psycho Circus: The Nightmare Child?
It was a really fun fucking game where you got to play as members of Kiss. Each one had their own campaign and unique melee weapon. The game played a lot like Serious Sam but with a spoopi atmosphere and monsters. So I guess kinda like Painkiller, before Painkiller.
>>14449398
I remember the first time I shot a guy in the dick while he was pissing. It was the most next level shit back then - blew my mind.
5a62ff No.14520568
>>14517487
I have a physical copy of KPC:TNC, and a pirate copy of the Collector's Edition which I'm pretty sure is exactly the fucking same as far as the game data goes.
I really need to go back and finish it, I put it on hold so I could play it with Aureal A3D sound, but I'm still no closer to having the room for a retro win98 box to actually pull the Aureal Vortex card out of storage. That will be the time to revisit WON.net versions of Half-Life 1 and its expansions to experience that sweet sweet A3D with some good headphones.
5a62ff No.14520619
>>14517487
some relevant trivia, the first time that John Romero's almost entire Daikatana dev crew walked out on him I say first time because of course it happened more than once, this is the game that resulted from that first defection to GOD Games.
1adbd5 No.14520941
holy fuck am I having so much fun playing FEAR. Are the expansions worth playing? Also, I'm thinking about jumping to FEAR 2 after, but I haven't played it since I was a console kiddie, and back then I remember it playing good on the console… which may mean it's shit on PC considering most console shooters were toned down for the sticks. Can it even come close to the pace of FEAR 1?
1adbd5 No.14522498
bf2c99 No.14522516
>>14520941
Play the DLCs, Don't play FEAR 2 or F3AR, they're terrible and will make you lose hope in anything staying good.
598173 No.14522524
>>14520941
There is one expansion which is worth playing. I forgot its name but its the one where you play as Point Man instead of some other team.
FEAR 2 is bad but not awful. I wouldn't recommend playing it if you liked FEAR 1.
1adbd5 No.14522671
>>14522516
>>14522524
gotcha, that's a shame but I can't say I'm surprised. I couldn't come close to beating FEAR 1 back in the day when I had it on the 360, yet I rushed through FEAR 2 so I figured that was the case. Still, the atmosphere and that rape boss fight were neat. At least I'll have the expansions to enjoy as I'm just about done with the first game. Maybe I'll knock out the first condemned game after those instead of FEAR 2.
1adbd5 No.14523841
>>14522671
Aaaand, just beat it. Been a long time since I played a 10/10 game.
1cf1da No.14524218
wat are some essential fps games?
598173 No.14524228
>>14524218
Depends on what you're looking for out of the genre.
I'd say Doom, Blood, FEAR are pretty essential.
0a8ccd No.14524235
>>14524218
you play doom first, then the build engine trilogy, then quake
0cb90e No.14524275
>>14524218
half life, if you like the first one then go on in order of release
02252e No.14524280
Are there any good wads for DOOM that involve monster hunting?
af2d84 No.14524289
>>14524218
Doom,
Duke Nukem 3D,
Blood/Shadow Warrior,
Quake,
Quake 2/3,
F.E.A.R.,
S.T.A.L.K.E.R.,
Painkiller,
Serious Sam The First/Second Encounter (Revolution),
Return to Castle Wolfenstein,
Call of Duty 1/2,
Battlefield 1942/Vietnam/2/2142/Bad Company 2,
Descent 1/2 (Dx1/Dx2 Rebirth),
E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy,
Unreal,
Unreal Tournament 99/2004
e7b921 No.14532274
All the official expansions for duke nukem 3D were pretty shit and not worth paying for. For fucks sake the christmas one the first few levels were just the first few levels from episode 1 only with snow how lazy can you get