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Here’s the only question that matters, is it worth 26 bucks?

Did they fix the horrid loot system from the first game.

Its the banter better?

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After dealing with this shit for 2 hours I can finally try it.

How many maps are there? I've played too many games that have nice gameplay but it gets extremely boring playing the same maps over and over again.

Is it fun at all ? Seems as shallow as left4dead.

How would you exterminate a ratboi?

>>14447228

game ain't out yet and the beta only has act 3 which is 4 missions. if the steam achievements are anything to go by then there will be 3 acts + 1 prolouge mission.

4x3+1=13

13 maps. i was expecting 16 but eh.

>>14447319

burn it with fire

>>14447304

We saw two other maps in the alpha too.

>>14447099

I played as Victor Saltzpyre in the first one and now i don't know wich skill tree i should pick for him

is there a meta ?

>>14447851

>Not going Bounty Hunter and fucking destroying bosses with your career skill

How can you be so clueless?

>>14447851

you have to play normal victor before you get mercenary and then grind some more for the last one, you'll have plenty of time to decide what you like.

Personally I dont like victor at all but im not very good at playing him so eh.

>>14447416

>An entire fucking army equipped in full plate

How the fuck does any force deal with something that hard to kill

>>14447324

What the fuck is this from, is this a single joke panel or is there more to this?

>>14447912

Why do you ask ?

Do the devs have any plans to fix the AA and SSAO issue by release?

>>14447272

Introduce him to a gang of capy-baras.

>>14447922

I need more

>>14447930

Look up deception by masterploxy I don't want to shit up the thread.

>>14447851

All of salty's abilities are pretty fun, zealot for melee focus, bounty hunter for special killer and witch hunter for jack of all trades and crits

>>14448118

>Dominating playing the easiest class

naw, really?

So just got done downloading the game. Anything good to know before I start the game up? besides clearing the tutorial.

>>14448336

Bright wizard is truly the greatest. Playing unchained is hilarious when you're balancing overcharge meter for max damage then you get hit in the back by a stormvermin patrol and nuke the entire map

>>14448215

balancing sucks dick. Some weapons are beyond useless depending on the difficulty. Sienna is also kinda bad at melee with most of her weapons. When it comes to the hardest difficulty, you are limited to having some specific ranged weapons, since most will either do not enough damage, hurt your team through friendly fire, since some of sieannas ranged weapon attacks are pretty big or hit rapidly. So with her melee lacking and her supportive staffs barely dealing damage like the combustion staff, you would just end up wanting to pick someone else.

Kruber is also not so great with his weapons, but he has auras and boss killing potential that just help the other better characters.

Also the game likes to randomly spawn shit on you constantly that can just slap you across the face and end your run. via summoning a swarm in the middle of a boss fight. or 3 special mobs on that hardest difficulty, or a storm vermin army appears and then you get a swarm with it.

Or get 10 berserkers Keep in mind 1 berserker, if he sneaks up behind you and lands his attacks, you are dead or greatly damaged and depending on your weapon choice you can't stop their attacks and have to guard their hits, meanwhile doing this other enemies could be trying to flank you and you can't defend yourself since turning away will just get the berserker to beat you down.

theres A lot of bullshit like that, it feels like RNG to me if the game decides not to fuck your ass with bullshit like that at time.

>>14448394

Unchained is fun, I just wish it was actually good compared to her other classes.

>>14447112

>Did they fix the horrid loot system from the first game.

It's still there but it's largely fixed, it's still a bit random but you aren't farming like a retard for half decent gear, orange kit is fairly obtainable even with just bots to jump start to veteran.

Red is still fucking rare and the small bit of RNG is still infuriating when you get 2 loot dice from a loot-rat, all grims, all tomes and you still don't go past rank 4 -out of 6) because Dices and Ragnar are still random and it rolled 0 or 1 but it's still rare (happened once in 20h of beta).

>>14447112

>is it worth 26 bucks?

Yeah.

If it was full price I'd definitely say no, but Vermintide was already pretty nice and they just made the same thing but better. It sort of has a storyline (the previous one did too but it fell far less immersive, somehow). It has lots of new enemies (all the chaos guys but also quite a few new rats), the Revamped combat system not dumbed down at all, if anything it's way deeper both in strict gameplay (parry/dodge/push/attack movements) but also in gamedesign with 3 classes for each 5 chars but with weapons varieties within the classes which makes up for the left4bored syndrome, after 20h I only played Dworf and I feel I barely scratched the surface of proper Dworf-warfare because Slayer and Iron Breaker play completely differently, as it should since one is a flying ball of axes, murder and rage and the other is more armor than an Abrams with a fucking flamethrower.

I will throw in a caveat.

>>14448215

>How is the balance

In progress.

There have been nerfs and balance test all week. Currently highest difficulty is borderline unplayable (as in you get mobbed by 6 specials in the middle of a horde + boss) and a lot of shit is questionable, but medium difficulty is roughly ok (or was 3 hours ago).

There are quite a few things that are probably going to be nerfed.

There are also quite a few bugs including the amazing split personality bug (hold X to fix it REMEMBER THIS).

So yeah my take on it is: Yes it is worth that price… but maybe wait a bit because the meta is really unstable (or buy knowing that).

>How many areas does Vermintide 2 has?

Maps? For sure 13 (+ prologue + base).

The maps are on average bigger than the ones in Vermintide (which were already fairly big) I think, it's the same construction wise as the (good) left4dead maps with one access a big space with lots of things to explore ->one exit (sometimes two, but going the same place), etc…

>>14448434

So are all the levels currently in the beta or will there be more when it releases tomorrow?

>>14448995

just 4 act 3 maps.

How's the sound design in this one?

In the original you could hear rats sneaking up on you from behind and notice SV patrols from a mile away just from the sound they made (as long as the map wasn't bugged because they could literally spawn right on top of you).

This meant that as long as you paid attention you'd never be flanked, since you'd hear them easily outside of battle and you'll be spinning and shoving constantly in battle anyway.

I haven't had a proper game yet but the first proper mission I did with bots was fucking infuriating. They're dumb as fucking bricks. It's definitely a game to be played with friends.

>>14447921

What's the AA/SSAO issue you're talking about?

>>14449116

SSAO and AA make the game a disgusting blurry mess. You can switch from TAA to FXAA and disable SSAO, but then you're left with jaggies. Any kind of sharpen filter helps, but then you have grainy issues.

The only thing I'm finding fucking INFURIATING is when you're near the end of a level and the hosts drops, making the game not migrating host but RESTARTING THE WHOLE FUCKING SHIT and not giving you JACK SHIT.

And I'm sure it's mostly because of backend errors on the host side.

They either have to implement either an in-game host migration, checkpoints or having dedicated servers ASAP after launch.

Give the elf something less ratlike so I don't swing at the bitch by accident and waste an attack frame, leaving myself open for the hordes and hordes of fucking enemies that apparently spawn out of everyone's ass.

>>14449184

From what I have seen on the Forums those issues, I had them too, have been adressed by the devs. Optimization may not be perfect but they have done good work on it.

>>14449320

how long ago was this? cause i tried the game yesterday and still had issues. i dont have any problems with fps, the game just looks like shit

>>14449335

Your best bet would be to check the Forrum. The devs post answers and tips in there for various problems as much as they can. There are still people with issues like crashes and visual bugs and those have been mostly attributed to DX12.

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com

All I can tell you that my mates and I have had only half a dozen crashes between the three of us and only few minor glitches.

>>14448344

The most important skill you will need to learn immediatly is block-revive. Despite being invaluable in the game the tutorial ommits it completely.

Also barrels of oil or blackpowder will do damage when they explode close to you on any difficulty. Friendly fire starts at Champion level though.

>>14447304

13 is the Horned Rats sacred number though 🤔

>>14449397

COULD MOZART STILL BE ALIVE…?!

>>14449375

Good.

I won't be mistaking her for a rat this time.

>>14449433

Elric should be a playable character.

>>14449433

Thank Sigmar, the woodcunt has already been toned down after several forum threads on the topic.

While I wouldn't miss her if she was removed I am not going to bother with her anymore, one way or another.

>>14447907

If Total War Warhammer is anything to go by, you beat that army with cheese. Tons of cheese.

so far it's been the opposite of the first game's beta, there's five maps two of them taken out of rotation, the maps I've played are pretty boring compared to the first game, it's alot slower paced and generally easier outside of the big monster spawns but loot is much less frustrating to get even if it comes in the form of loot crates and the crafting is much better if you want something specific you can get it no problem well bonuses aside. the "hub world" is alot bigger and changes while you level up but it's alot less comfy then the first. the class stuff is kinda pointless over all and the abilities seem kinda neat but what it amounts to is the elf still being massively op because it's still EZ modo with an ability which one shoots specials

>>14449405

>The melee combat is the most satisfying thing I have experienced in terms of visceral feedback and brutality.

How so ? The videos I see is the elf skewering things with a spear all the time. Same animation over and over again. And same left4dead weightless enemies.

>>14449433

That "trash" is just the average online gamer these days.

>>14449334

>Not rapier and the multicrossbow

What are you doing.

https://www.twitch.tv/fatsharkgames

they are streaming, release soon goys. Also some twitch game that lets us spawn 50 rat ogres in their game.

>>14447184

Sienna now has "wacky aunty" quotes.

>>14447272

I'd use high yield explosives.

>watching stream

>SLASH SLASH SLASH SLASH SLASH

Does not seem very varied.

>>14450778

>rapier

Doesn’t bash heads in or do that hard hitting wide sweep.

>multi-crossbow

I just have yet to get a good one.

>>14451499

The fun comes from dealing with the enemies they throw at you and the way they are mixed together, like and old school FPS.

>>14449433

Are you perhaps a dorf?

>>14451569

Lunging powerattack, and that attack speed with multiple target hits makes up for all of that.

My GPU barely meets minimum standard for this game. From the beta into release they increased the graphics requirements so there's a significant change in fps if you're in my boat. Lowest is no longer lowest as was in beta.

>>14454410

Oh hell, hope my shitty little 960m will hack it.

Was there any class that WASN'T nerfed in 1.0? At least my Zealot only lost two seconds on his ultimate with the level 25 ability from what I've seen.

>>14454555

I have a GTX 670m. In beta everything was fine enough, but now I'm really feeling the fps drops. In lowest setting volumetric fog is still on by default so turn that off if you need to.

>>14454622

Shitty internet won't let me download it fast enough. Are there still infinite potion trinkets and do they still eat from temporary health first?

>>14454410

strangely I got a good boost, so now I can flip shit up to high from medium without much loss.

>>14454622

Dorf

>>14454947

>Are there still infinite potion trinkets and do they still eat from temporary health first?

25% chance of potion not being consumed.

>>14455285

no that's a different trinket, unless they like, combined the two. One was 25% chance to not consume, but no health used to take the potion. The other was health taken to use the potion, but potion is never consumed.

>>14454410

maybe i am just crazy but I think the game runs a bit better than the beta. certainly loads a lot faster than before.

Ooga booga where the rat titties at?

>>14455470

>12 hours to go.

>Have to reconnect to the internet every 2 or 3 hours because of a shitty authentication scheme so it won't download all night unless I set alarms to wake up

Tell me about it.

>>14455372

that trinket is gone. 25% is the only one left

>>14455878

Goddamnit. I was afraid of that.

>>14456034

>nerfing anything in a PvE game

What in the holy fuck?

>>14447272

>Capture female

>Capture several males

>Begin selective breeding for more docile rats

>Continue this for thousands of generations thanks to smaller lifespan

>Keep completely separated from Skaven society, going so far as to kill off any one that shows traces of horns or the like

>Rats become more docile and controllable

>Begin to weed out additional traits

>Captured Skaven become predictable, loyal soldiers

>Paint and play Skaven as white lab rat army with bleach and rubber gloves theme rather than poison and filth

>as a bonus, get obedient ratboi's and qt ratgirls as humanities servants

>>14456134

>>Paint and play Skaven as white lab rat army with bleach and rubber gloves theme rather than poison and filth

That actually sounds rad as fuck.

>>14456167

I'd do it myself but I don't have the time or money to spare to a warhammer army.

I'd also try to do an army of feminist orks. Purple Mohawks and all.

Why fuck are they still rats?

Warhammer don't have more enemies?

>>14456298

The armies of Chaos are in the game as well.

Speaking of the warhammer universe, Is Total Warhammer II worth a torrent? Has the dunevo been cracked on that game.

>>14456324

Total warhamer II is actually good (if you like TW games). They improved mechanics since rome 2 and magic is fun. Each army feels different too. Overall 7/10

I've got some credit on the Humble Store and want to pick this up. Can someone be super cool and share their Monthly 10% discount link?

Anyone noticed the push is wayyy more efficient than it was in the beta? I'm not sure but my theory is that your push range is that of your weapon, it seems like it.

>>14456679

How much is it on the humble store?

>>14448220

>implying elf is good

lol probably most useless character in Champ+

>>14449048

Sound design is about the same level, but some things are better than before. Overall it's done well.

>>14456679

Going to try posting my link here, one sec: https://www.humblebundle.com/monthly/activate-discount?gamekey=G6xDpkxYKVyhdqAB

>>14456442

It’s a shame it’s 64 bucks. If it was a reasonable price I’d buy it.

Like >>14456324 asked, has it been cracked yet?

>>14457017

>implying the knife ear is not good

her and sienna are the most important characters to have in legend

>>14457098

I'd say sienna and Saltz are superior

>>14456134

Skaven are creatures of Chaos, much like blacks or Arabs irl. Even the best breeding won't get rid of their taint.

>>14457024

Yes. How hard is it to go to cis rin ru and look for yourself?

>>14457293

Don't forget Kruber with 20% AOE Damage Reduction

>>14457972

I would have preferred to play as the rats or something else this time around rather then the retcon we got

>>14457384

Kruber is a given

>>14458314

they mention bretton in flavor dialog

>>14458325

yeah and apparently its fucked beyond belief. It also implies that there is more vampire lords in brettonia than just the red prince. might make for a pretty cool backstory though, a brettonian lord goes to the empire to seek help only to have several skaven ambush him. He later finds our heroes/lohner/olesya/whoever and agrees to help the empire with their skaven problem if they promise to help with the undead problem later.

no idea what the other 2 careers besides paladin would be though.

>>14458344

questing knight or demigryph knight

>>14458476

it's not a game

Did those madmen actually lower Kerillian's voice line frequency? She used to speak every fucking 3 seconds, but now it's like 10.

>>14459146

she needs to not speak what so ever

fatshark pls

>>14459209

I wonder if you could just replace her voice files with files that are just filled with silence.

i just bought this today and i can't for the fuck of it get it to work. Every time i launch it and get to the "adjust gamma" screen my mouse and then confirm button glitch out and i cant progress into the game from there. Anyone has any idea how the fuck to fix this? google doesnt seem to….

>>14459570

They've said there's plans for a brettonian in an interview

>>14459570

>>14459608

do not trust fatshark what so ever

>>14459647

why not

>>14459675

They lied about adding new chars and weapons to vermintide 1 so I think they won't do it here either

>>14459570

Maybe if you had a peasant? there are peasants in brettonia who became knights (although all of them got stabbed in the back) and then you could have basic peasant all about pitchforks with a yeoman career and a paladin career. I know im stretching it here but I think it could work. I also think if they go with a knight they could have lance and shields or maybe spears and shields.

If we cant have a brettonian then I could go with a lizardman. those guys are pretty cool.

>>14459681

lied about alot more then that, like at one point they said they were going to add playing at chaos at some point

>>14459681

well shit, guess ill never be a paladin.

>>14459750

the biggest problem of the first name was the maps were short

>>14459750

There aren't a lot of Saurians running around the old world. It doesn't really make sense from an in-universe perspective.

>>14459570

A Tilean could definitely work. I'd imagine a duelist would be the base career, with a primary focus on quick but weaker weapons… Rapiers, sword and dagger, dual pistols, that sort of thing. Engineer would also be a workable second career. What would the third be, though?

>>14459715

I think it would have to be a peasant if they added a Brettonian. There just isn't a lot of variety for playstyles among the nobility.

>>14459942

I think a warrior priest might be the best choice for new character. Default career could be Sigmar for hammers and damage mitigation, and ranged career could be Taal and Rhya. Third career could be Ulfric or Myrmidia for a different spin on melee combat, or maybe even a non-warrior priest of Shallya for buffs.

>>14459907

you could have an entirely new cast in the new world doing the same thing.

>A Saurian

>An Amazon

>A dark elf

>Empire colonist?

I cant think of a fifth one.

>>14460003

The priesthood does not rotate what god they serve.

A warrior priest could still work, but career choice would probably break down more along the lines of support caster, offensive caster, melee fighter augmented by spells.

>>14456235

>unless GW eventually decides to "Coke Classic" it

>GW may one day try to play Age of Shitmar off as simply an experiment and reboot Fantasy

The only thing that would make the hypothetical situation better would be if a new, extremely inexpensive 3D-printer came onto the market.

>>14460029

The other careers aren't something the characters switch around either. They're different ways their lives might have turned out. I think the choice of patron god fits this concept well.

>>14460326

Anyone who unironically dislikes the Aryan race of superhumans occasionally referred to as elfs or elves is a fucking idiot and probably a furfag as well.

>>14460326

Skaven.

>>14460341

>t. knife ear

>>14460326

BIG FAT RAT TATS

>>14460382

>>14460365

>>14460358

>>14460326

Today I will remind them.

>>14447319

>>14460399

Yeah don't care. Not going to ruin my heretical fantasies.

The talent system is really uninspired. They ripped it straight out of fucking WoW but forgot to actually design the talents in a similar manner. 5% attack speed sure is interesting.

why do maces cleave better than axes but deal less damage to armored targets than axes do?have I shifted realities again?

>>14460326

For a wife, I take the Skaven (male)

Without jokes, Skaven are plague-carrying chaotic beastmen you can't trust. Even if you do marry that Skaven girl, she's going to try to kill you, steal your shit and her words of love will be meaningless. Meanwhile Elves are typically perfection in an arrogant package and you can most likely get offspring with one. Assuming MAGIC, Skaven girl could become tempting if she has no typical Skaven character traits and can still bear children with you. Having your own group of half-rat kids would be fucking awesome, especially if they were to inherit your longevity rather than inferior Skaven one. Unless the Skaven wife also has human-tier length of life, you might have to fuck your potential rat Skaven daughter to continue the plan of an army. One of your sons will inevitably fuck your daughter anyway.

>>14460443

I've been wondering that myself. Why is Salty's best weapon for cleaving a flail when he has a fucking greatsword? Swings for giant axes and swords just feels like you're trying to chop down a tree with them.

>>14460455

non-clanrat/slave skaven can have proper long lives.

>>14460467

Because it can be "balanced" by only hitting one enemy in a swing.

Tempted to buy this, but I think I should really wait for a torrent first to try it out solo and see how it plays.

>>14460455

>Without jokes, Skaven are plague-carrying chaotic beastmen you can't trust. Even if you do marry that Skaven girl, she's going to try to kill you, steal your shit and her words of love will be meaningless.

Without jokes, Skaven females are 300lb blobs of flesh and orifices used exclusively for reproduction. They aren't capable of killing you and stealing your shit because they're barely capable of moving.

>>14460491

I'm pretty sure they hit 3 but the damage gets around halfed on each additional target.

So if you hit 700 with the old values on the first one then second one gets hit with 350 and the one after that for 175 etc.

>>14460532

>problems with rat ogre / chaos spawn

Nigga learn to dodge? You can pretty much easily solo both, chaos spawn being slightly harder since if you fuck up your dodge when it tries to grab you're pretty fucked.

Also take beam staff and wreck shit, I do about 60-70% of my teams damage on boss with it.

>>14460534

Oh that's changed since the alpha then.

>>14460545

I'm not giving up anon and I plan on getting gud.

>>14460546

I am at level 1. I cannot access any weapons or gear. Or any class slots. Dodging does nothing when 30 chaos niggers are spawning continuously as well all around.

>>14460547

Its always been that way in my opinnion, the damage reduction after the first usually just results you in killing one, damaging 2 and knocking the rest back.

>>14460557

Well if it spawns a horde during a boss fight and you dont have enough aoe to deal with them / choke point then tough shit, if you started a boss fight during a horde then you got what you deserved.

It really shouldnt be that hard, been running champion runs and I feel like the game is much easier after launch.

>>14460559

I mean, I checked it with the dummies in the alpha and it would only ever hit one. Like, not 0s on the second, just no hits at all.

>>14460557

Early levels suck shit.

Keep your distance and corral them around.

Move through levels quick. Don't kill shit you don't have to. The longer you stay put the more shit the game is going to throw at you.

>>14447184

I just finished playing the first few levels all the banter seems to be much more mean spirited.

It seems very edgy to me

But that's just my first impression.

>>14460628

Kruber and Goreksson have top-tier banter. Salty is pretty good at times too, but usually just his typical screaming about heresy. Fuegonasus is mostly boring. The knife-eared slut just makes you want to throw a brick at her.

>>14447184

Depends. Kruber and Bardin are pretty much teddy bears as expected while Sienna got crazier and seems to dislike Saltzpyre less. I don't like her much, she is not endearing, cool nor pleasant to listen to. Saltzpyre really mellowed out. He is way more polite to others and appears to pretty much like Kruber and Bardin. He even tries to encourage Sienna at times, though he's inconsistent in different missions. The Elf is just a bitch.

>>14460655

>not loving sienna's twin peaks references and talking to her pyro fireball special asking it to make new friends

>>14460699

>sienna's twin peaks

She's a fucking granny you weird pervert.

>>14460655

>Fuegonasus

I thought her's was kinda funny. She's like a murderous soccermom on a power high at points.

Why does your health cap go down as the level progresses? By the end it feels like you can only take two hits at full health.

>>14461147

grimoires

Did they put a Great Unclean One in the game yet?

>>14460341

especially the Druchii

>>14462130

Your mom has not yet made an appearance.

>>14462222

more of it unlocks as you play

Looking for a Dwarf ranged weapon that out performs the shotgun, and I can't find one. Everything but the shotgun sucks I'm sure.

>>14463656

pistol dwarf isn't a joke

>>14463609

I had that same "fullbright" bug in the lobby the other day (before the recent patch), it was really weird. It's a shame though because the lighting in this game is pretty good.

>>14463661

I don't like the reload time.

I want to strangle kerillian and every player picking her.

When will there be mod replacing her with literally anything.

>>14447184

It's on par with a few choice lines. My favorite is Salzpyre saying "The dwarf is suffering ghastly wounds and YOOOUU have yet to throw yourself at the enemy! Do I smell bloody treason?!"

>>14463918

Kerillian is actually incredible if the player on her isn't shit. Problem is she objectively still seems to be most powerful with a longbow and too many shitters who can't dodge try to play handmaiden.

>>14464004

I forgot to clarify, mod replacing her voicelines.

>>14464013

Oh. I guess it doesn't bother me but I have played the first game for dozens of hours. Now I just see her as tsundere.

>>14460532

>>14460557

I actually had a similar experience when I first played the game and I played a lot of 1 as well. You just need to learn the boss attack patterns. Also I think you can jump over the tongue lash attack that the chais spawn uses to grab you, which is pretty funny as the dwarf. If you are having trouble, play with bots because they are frequently better than retarded wandering players.

>>14463656

The flamethrower.

>>14450043

Drakefire pistols can actually deal with hordes surprisingly well. Their charged fire can kill up to 10 rats in one shot if they're bunched up enough.

>>14455436

I'm actually getting worse performance since the full release.

Thank goodness they got the kick function working so we can boot every elf that joins.

>>14464367

AROUND ELVES WATCH YOURSELVES

>Krubbing it up

>Foot knight, Executioners sword

>Potion of Roids

>Damage for days

Its really great stunlocking bosses every few seconds and taking giant chunks of health off them like you are born and bred to do it.

>Fucking around, forgot what map

>Elf, Dorf, Me, and glorious Saltzpyre

>Elf and Dorf hanging back finding books and shit

>Didnt know Dorfs could read

>Fuck it

>Sons of Sigmar want to purge

>We purge ahead

>Purged we did

>Purged until surprise Blackrat formation

>Sigmar’s sons take a few knees, tired from battle

>Just a little respite

>Saltzpyre speaks

“Maybe we should have hung back and waited for the rest of our squad.”

>Disgusted

>Remind him that Man has no need to rely on reliance to Dwarves, let alone Elves

>What would Sigmar say?

>No response from the heretic

>Dorf illustrates his irritation with colorful words to me, Markus Kruber

>Tell him to shut his heretical mouth, talking to a man of the empire like that

>Dorf uses warp fuckery to remove me from the realm

Welp. Looks like the oh so Iron-Spirited Dwarves can’t take banter. I suppose when you are the size of a child and a big hammer or flamethrower isnt enough compensation, other means will have to do.

>>14464428

I'll have you know us Dwarves have bigger spirits than you are, manling. Are you sure you weren't with a little, mishapen wutelgi?

>>14464444

That's fair enough. You can't really carry a shit team with the flamer.

>>14464450

I thought that up to the point in which his elegant tongue of the humble karak slum dwellers exposed him as one of those mighty four and a quarter foot high bearded wenches

>>14463918

>>14464004

I liked to play as Kerillian in V1, especially once I looted the Cavaroc hagbane

>>14464545

Sounds like one of your little manling children pretending to be one of us mighty Dawri. My cousin Okri once saw a Raki trying to dress up as a one of your manling women!

Coming in from long time Verm 1 and having the playerbase be small and decent at the game, it is a fucking NIGHTMARE playing with pubbies in this.

Do we have a group or something to avoid the baddies?

>>14464508

I have no idea what that bottom left text is supposed to say.

>>14464596

"Good thing their reactions are as slow as yours."

Translated as:

"Please hatefuck the hole you cut in my throat."

>>14464582

Oh, are you sure? You know a Slayer and a patchy Rat look quite similar to each other at times. No bother, those reclusive sadists are into all sorts of weird things. Which brings me to thought of whether or not the Dwarf is lacking significantly in the appendage department, or if they can even function properly being so compact and prepubescent save for the outgrown facial pubic hair

Still no crack.

>>14464631

Ha, your manling wife sure didn't complain when I showed her me lil' mallet, azumgi! Are you sure you ain't overcompensatin' with that big sword of yours?

>>14464847

This big sword chops the heads of chaos clean from their shoulders, something that takes you and your two cousins standing on top of each other with a step ladder to do. I must say though, being so short has its advantages. You might get a peek at elf knickers assuming you’re quick enough to trail behind like the short legged baffoon you are

>>14464584

I'll play with you, anonymous.

>>14465011

is there a decent pub community? i played a bit of the first and liked it, but hated how it almost immediately died

Is it just me or are elves absolutely allergic to carrying tomes?

I swear I've lost track of the amount of times I will point out the location of tomes wait a moment for the elven faggot to turn around and pick it up and instead she'll saunter off mumbling something about mayflies.

Then as I gather myself from my surprise that the elf hates getting better equipment I blast away the 2 packrats and gutter runner attempting to take me out whilst isolated and catch up to the stupid sow who's busy getting dicked by stormvermin chugging healing brews whilst Sienna watches on wistfully with her sliver of health.

>>14465110

Nope. Literally every group will have a shitter playing that useless fucking elf that will take and use ALL of the healing items they find, and then die when the wind changes direction and then blame everyone else for it.

>>14465355

With the new careers all of em. But she is originally a Woodcunt.

>>14460455

>fucking an elf for procreation

Sigmar himself will purge you from existence

>>14465417

Keep going

>>14465311

The first game is a giant reference to The Enemy Within, down to the names of the levels.(The Enemy Below, etc)

>>14465311

>>14465619

I feel like a pleb for asking but what is "the enemy within"? google tells me its the new telltale batman game and there is a movie from 1994 with the name. its also the name of XCOMs first expansion.

I am somewhat confused.

>>14465676

It's one of the best table-top RPG campaigns in history, belonging to Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay.

>>14465676

This >>14465687

I highly recommend it with friends (if you have any). You'll get to experience Ubersreik first hand, it was an awesome campaign. Haven't played the 3rd edition remake though.

>>14465707

>Haven't played the 3rd edition remake though.

I have and it's just as good if you don't mind it being 3E.

>>14465715

3E is fine. I'll look for it, I get the urge to play WFRP again.

>>14462191

>(2)

For what purpose?

Thread was great without you.

>>14465866

It was a funny joke dubsman.

>>14465969

ur lvl and power?

>>14465989

7. I'm leveling up my Bardin.

>>14464335

funny you say that because I've never seen the pistols charged shot do a goddamn thing. I use it and things don't even flinch. Doesn't even seem to make a cool flaming ground effect like in V1, but that might be my settings.

Also feels like they generate a fuckton more overcharge than beta now too, even with the talent reducing it.

Sort of related… when the Drakegun was bugged to always be at full overcharge that shit was fun as fuck. They should split the difference in charge-up time since any incoming damage knocks you out of charge or attacking with it anyway. Right now it's underwhelming.

Is it just me or do buff potions feel useless?

>>14466171

the concentration potion is pretty good since you can F then drink and then F again. The other two are complete shit though.

Is it normal doing chip damage to bosses? The Chaos spawn can be a fucking pain.

>>14466214

Yeah it's normal, the bile troll on veteran and more is pretty much unkillable unless you've got all the party on it cause of his heal (unless you've got someone that can interrupt it I guess), I'm expecting a nerf.

>>14466388

the only thing getting nerfs is the players characters, you're not meant to have fun goyim

>>14466804

I'm not familiar with the game enough to know the level names/acts yet, but it's the level with the farmland where you have to save the prisoners.

>There's a part where you unlock a barn and a Bile Troll spawns out of it.

>Right before that encounter there's a Grimoire.

> A friend and I, of which we are both vets from Verm 1, were playing as Saltz and Kruber, respectively.

>Some pubbie was an elf because OFC we can't have a game of peace without her vile voice lines.

>Friend says, "Hey let's wait until we kill the Troll before getting the Grim."

>We start the fight, elf is no where to be found.

>Look up.

>See the elf on top of the silo where the Grim is.

>I swear it was a re-enactment of this video as the elf looks right at me before picking the Grim up,

And you guessed right. The elf did die on their own making us lose the Grim.

I'm having a motherfuck of a time with randoms tonight. There's 65,000 people playing on Steam and I've already heard a few squeakers. Any of you fags want to play together?

I main Sienna but I've been leveling up Bardin.

>>14447324

>bottom right corner

OwO mark what's dis??

I refunded this during "pre-release" because I have no friends to play with on Champion I was concerned with the amount of non-repetitious content there'd be. I know there're going to be new maps, but what about modes or other monotony-breakers? I never played the first game, all I've heard of is a horde mode.

>>14466143

I only used them in beta, but get an exotic+ pair with -20% overcharge. It's much better than -20% in actuality, I went from 7 shots to 11 before I passed the first overheat threshold.

I found the charge useful when spammed since it stunlocks in a large area and kills off the chaff by the second or third blast.

>>14467312

Right now the primary fire gets you above the bar in like 5 shots with the 33% reduction talent. It's pretty ass. Exotic with reduction would probably help a bit.

My friends are insisting on grinding to full 100 power gear on Recruit before advancing even though we had no problem speedrunning almost anything on Nightmare in V1… meanwhile I've been wearing 100 power shit since last week and am getting bored waiting.

Also doesn't help that they nerfed Huntsman into the fucking ground so our former boss shredder is now playing Sienna.

I tried out quick play and fuck me the randoms are completely inept. You get people hosting with shit internet resulting in unplayable latency and a disconnect results in a map you've been on for 25 minutes fucking restarting.

>>14467398

That's another reason. I never disconnect from anything, yet either I or the host get kicked from about 20% of games. That host disconnect restarts the level with nothing and doesn't even have the decency to give you the experience of a failed run is despicable.

Count the shots with the pistols, I was 7 with the class talent and 11 with the exotic trait. I'm curious if they really did nerf it on release, I really liked having reliable anti-special and spammable decent ranged boss DPS without worrying about ammo.

Huntsman was still pretty stronk with Blunderbuss before launch, just not instakill levels of OP. Though I preferred taking Bounty Hunter since his fuckhuge F alpha is instant and doesn't care about armor like Blunderbuss does (no gear switching on map join means Huntsman with Blunderbuss can't do shit but melee on that camp map with the scripted armored chaos boss guy).

>get stuck in a wall, then shot out into an assassin after party decides to rightfully leave me

>everyone gets downed a couple steps away

>our dwarf gets glitched in the mouth of a tank enemy and we all have to quit out

Also, I feel like the balancing got a LOT worse than it was in the beta. I have no idea how anyone could get past novice at this point considering the amount of bosses and hoards they'll throw at you at once. Still fun, but hard as balls if your whole team isn't somewhat competent.

>>14466180

strength is good for people with light weapons, because it makes your normal attacks break armor.

Speed is nice if you have a fast weapon already and are facing down a horde.

Both are kinda shit for heavy weapons.

>>14456134

You could theoretically just breed the albino rats instead of bleaching them

>>14467454

My friend would pop the Huntsman skill and 3-shot bosses with a strength pot and his blunderbuss, and this is after it was nerfed down to 1.5x boost instead of 5x. Without a pot it would still one-shot any non-boss enemy with a headshot.

Now it's a "why even bother" boost and he has no interest in playing the class anymore. They removed the cannon noise when attacking it had in beta so it's not even fun for that.

The drakefire primary fire is still all right for managing specials at close to medium range, but it's always seemed to do fuckall to bosses in my experience.

>>14467680

Assuming they're not drastically different from V1, what strength pots do is make anything you do (including bombs) deal something like triple damage. They're by far best reserved for quickly dispatching bosses so you don't give the game enough time to spawn extra bullshit.

alright anons, Fatshark released a Roadmap

http://www.vermintide.com/roadmap/

>new maps by April

>Dedicated Servers and modding either mid April-Mid May

Where the fuck is my doom wheel boss battle?

>>14467735

Drakefire pistols in the beta were dealing more per hit than my strongest melee weapon strikes, and faster, too. Especially important considering how hard it is to stay in melee range with most bosses (when you even want to be in melee range, which is rare).

Yeah, that nerf sounds ridiculous. He should try BH, assuming its F didn't get nerfed.

>>14467902

DLC

So is it me or is the two hander for Saltzpyre complete shit?

>>14467744

The DLC jewing begins. At least I hope they let others play on those maps as long as the host bought the DLC.

How are you anons finding the game? I was thinking of buying it since it's relatively cheap, the devs seem decent enough and I like Warhammer. Pubbies aren't a problem since I can probably get a couple of friends to buy it as well. Worst case scenario I can join up with one of you fags and then run before the gay erp starts

Loving the elf spear. That thing feels overpowered as fuck, it cleaves through everything without penalty, has long reach, super fast attacks, high damage, and easy-ish headshots. Longbow also does pretty obscene damage per shot and pierces shields, so that makes the combination great for pretty much everything. Combined with regen and other forms of self healing I'm dealing and taking twice as much damage as anybody else in most groups, but maybe that's less because the class is good and more because everyone else sucks.

>>14468014

until level 20 he's a bit of a high skill character. You can play him a little more fast and loose once you can kill your way to temporary health

>>14468062

elf is made for killing, which might feel overpowered in recruit or even veteran, but when you get on higher difficulties and actually killing gets harder you'll find yourself relying on your teammate for knocking down enemies or thinning out waves. And they'll be relying on you to finish the job.

>taking damage

unlearn that habit, try to take as little damage as possible because that'll be the way the harder difficulties get. Also dont be a dick and share that regen. people taking hits for you can use all the help they can get and thats one usefull perk.

>>14468387

> And they'll be relying on you to finish the job.

You keep telling yourself that knife ear.

>>14468474

The class/character balance is pretty good; maybe Victor little bit underpowered after nerf. A good Sienna is absolute needed for Champion and Legend run. Fucking rapid flame staff melts rat hordes like a minigun.

>>14459750

Given just how much ass the Lizardmen kicked during the endtimes, I'd love to have one as a playable character. Also I just kind of want one to get the fun racist as fuck banter with the other champs.

>>14460326

knife-ears and furfags plz go

>>14467398

Tell your soiboi friends that you get more exp on Veteran and move the fuck up. It's barely harder, and if you can do NM on VT1 you can do Veteran with ease.

>>14467735

>They're by far best reserved for quickly dispatching bosses so you don't give the game enough time to spawn extra bullshit.

THIS. If you use a strength pot for something that isn't killing a boss, you're a god damn idiot. This goes double if you have an active ability that can do a lot of damage like Waywatcher, Bounty Hunter, etc.. Wait for the boss to target someone else, then chug the potion, use your ability (if relevant), throw your bomb, and start swinging/shooting.

>>14468014

If you want 2H-style gameplay with Saltz, use the flail… but rapier is still best weapon.

>>14468032

>At least I hope they let others play on those maps as long as the host bought the DLC.

That's what they did with the first game. Fatshark seems to know how bad it is to divide your community, I hope they didn't forget that.

>How are you anons finding the game?

Straight improvement on the original, if you ever played that. If not, it's a melee-focused Left 4 Dead style co-op game. It's challenging and fun and you will need to git gud. There is an expectation that you will at least attempt to learn how to block, dodge, and develop your situational awareness: casualfags need not apply. Otherwise it's some good shit.

>>14468474

Victor's needs some small buffs but is still viable. Sienna is quite powerful and her staves are generally easier to use and better than VT1. You do need to be more careful about managing her overcharge though.

>>14468672

A good tank can easyly be the difference between life and death. Some classes even have agro abilities. Shields are, IMO extremely fun to play. Go watch some gameplay of Bardin or Kruber (dwarf and imperial soldier) using shields, and see if you'd like it.

Whith a decent amount of skill, an Ironbreaker Badin can take on any callenge.

>>14468723 Shield and hammer are the way to go, not shield and axe. Topple it with a flamethrower and never worry about hordes again.

>>14468740

Taunt is the actual active part of his ability I forgot with high level talent giving you the option to taunt the boss too.

Then there is Footknight Kruber he is tanky but can take any weapon and do good damage if you feel like it.

>>14468740

>Side note, whats the standard team comp setup.

Elf + whatever other 3 fucbois having to carry her ass through it.

>>14468740

Depends on the difficulty, and to some extent, on the mission. You also don't have to be hiper specialiced: maybe your ranged attack is good against special enemies, and your primary weapon is good against bosses. Or maybe your standar mele attack is a slash to the head that destroys specials and your charged attack is a big blow that's pretty useful to keep hordes at bay (this is the case with some 2handed weapons).

If you are playing with friends on the highest dificulty, it's a good idea to plan ahead, but normally there's no need for a specific team comp. You just have to work with what you have. I'd say that most of the time, as long as there is someone who can melt bosses, everything should be fine.

And tanking consists mostly of bullying people around with your shield so they can't hurt your friends. You are the wall that keeps enemies at bay, but if you are actually taking the blows, you are doing it wrong. Any rat that gets too close gets a shield to the face.

>>14468732

Shield/hammer seems inferior to shield/axe. Shield/axe has the same shield bash but also has armor pen.

>>14468740

There isn't a standard comp really, and there aren't any real support classes. Ironbreaker and Foot Knight are pretty desirable characters on a team though, and if you're good you'll have no trouble making friends.

>>14468754

I lol'd

>>14468765

Built-in matchmaking makes it simple to find teams. Can't guarantee they won't be retards though.

>>14468772

>Can't guarantee they won't be retards though.

You can almost guarantee they will be retards.

>>14468474

>How are Sienna and Victor in this?

Siesta is weak as shit, has no cc-weapons and her only good staff is fireball, IF your teammates aren't retarded and run into the fireballs all the time.

>>14467744

>mod support

I wonder if the game can handle more than 4 players.

>>14468841

5v5 war with bot grunts would sound cool

>>14468816

Probably going to be like the first one, higher levels weed out the worst of the shit heap.

In 1, all the really bad players were mostly gone by level 65. Remember to bully everyone who deserves it.

>>14468885

>'female'

>>14468829

Sienna has a dagger that helps with CC like saltpyres rapier.

But her strength is mostly her ranged.

Also beamstaff is also good, it lacks damage but can be incredible as stun locking waves ahead of you and the right click has a strong push and good damage for melee ranged combat.

The downside to beamstaff is that it builds up a lot of heat, but it also builds up a lot of meter for your F skill. If you shake left to right quickly you can strike A LOT faster with your beamstaff, but it wont hit harder, doing this against a wave will not only make you hit so much and build up so much heat, you can build up so much meter that you can keep throwing your skills out, which is great if you're level 25 that lets you remove all heat from using your F skill.

Fireball staff is still better though.

>>14468926

>haha its just a joke lol

>omg my freinds on r_normalpeoplethings said that everyone on /v/ is super into traps but its not gay lololol

>shit, I need help; better start with self deprecating trap joke about something completely irrelevant to the topic

State your point and get on with your life

>>14468936

I recomend you pick "Shield of Vayala" or "Indefatigable" over "Stoutfellow". Being better at blovking and not getting hit is better than being able to get hit a few more times.

At level 10, Irondrake is the most fun one, but miner's rhythim is awesome when you are blocking, bashing and dealing charged attacks. Miners Rhythim is the superior choice, but if I'm farming I go with Irondrale to burn more rats. It's just too fun.

For the third one, Rune-Forged is in my opinion the inferior one. As I said, it's better to not get hit in the first place, and 10 health is not too much. Tunnel Fighter is really good, cause if you got hit, it's probably cause you are in the middle of a hard mele, and you are likely to get hit again soon; and incredibly solid talent. Ironbreaker's Resolve is pretty gut to avoid running out of stamina BUT once you're hit, you loose it for 20 seconds, and those 20 seconds are probably gonna be the time when you need it the most. I'd say Tunnel Fighter is the best one in this tier.

Grudge-Borne, without question. Kills happen more often than crits, and you'll get lot's of kill when you are surrounded by enemies, which also happens to be the time you'll need that termporaly health the most. Helath when boss dies… yeah, there's one boss per level, two sometimes. No point in picking a perk you're gonna use twice at most.

I'd say "Oi! Wazzok!" is the best one. Distract the boss, while being able to block it's attacks, abd buy your wizzard or huntsman a bit more time. If your mates are decent, it can make bosses a lot less tought.

>>14469021

Thanks for your opinion anon.

>>14468926

>it's a well known fact that most of you have the biggest possible gay

Fuck off with your sodomite propaganda astroturfing

People hate gays not because they're closeted fags and like all fags hate themselves, but because you're disease ridden filth that needs to be eradicated.

>>14469021

I usually pick the health increasers though, this isnt vermintide 1 anymore and getting hit is an definite every game. Whether its one of the new specials, a packrat sneaking up on you or just a bug.

>>14469044

>>14469084

We can pretend that all the enemies in VT2 are gay. Will you play with me then?

>>14469118

my advice to fighting a troll, bring something that can burn it. it will make his regen less of a hassle.

The hit detection with the troll is a little off also, if you can get right into him his attacks wont hit you besides the pukes. But it's tricky.

>>14469118

bombs can mini-stun it out of attacks

>>14469169

I insta leave when I join someones keep and see that only character above lvl 10 is the elf.

>>14468387

>Also dont be a dick and share that regen

Yeah I was already doing that. However, there's a level 20 talent that grants temporary health on kill (or on crit if you prefer). Temporary health is only good if you take damage before it decays. I'm sticking to vet until I get close to the gear level cap but I kind of suspected that might be a problem later.

>>14468962

Stop playing on easy mode and don't let your team carry you then.

>>14468916

>attention whoring in a Vermintide thread

Is it not enough to do that shit in the SS13 and Monster Hunter threads that you have to do it here too? Fuck off.

>>14468962

You can make saltz into a special killer extraordinaire with the BH class and a volley crossbow.

I usually play as the cute elf but I was forced to play as Kruber earlier, god I hate the blunderbuss.

>>14468963

What next? Are you going to tell us that you're the trap from the gamenights?

>>14469596

the blunderbuss is trash, just trash. it should destroy everything infront of it rather then be a guessing game on how much you'd want the repeater

That nice bug that stops you from using a health kit on yourself and.or your teammates.

>>14469655

It feels like it's worse than in the first game.

>>14469764

alot of weapons are, for example the repeater used to have three fire options the third one being if you fired the moment you spun your barrel and not held it, it didn't empty your ammo

Does anyone know if decaying temp health counts as damage taken? It SHOULDN'T, but it seems like it does. That or I'm taking a LOT of temp health damage from hordes.

>>14469655

>>14469764

Blunderbuss is actually the best boss killer. Even after the nerf.

>>14470075

bosses aren't much of the game, sure killing it quick is nice but honestly it's not hard to quickly kill them if your team knows what it's doing tbh

>>14470085

Well it can also kill an army of stormvermin, its also good for clearing out some swarm enemies in a chokehold. Depending how fast you can shoot.

But the blunderbuss is great for what it does, which is kill tough enemies. If you want to kill swarms you'd want to pick another weapon or just get a good melee for it like halbred.

>>14470097

been using the warhammer as a general tool for most situations. Its great at clearing waves with charge attacks, great at killing elites with overhead smashes, breaks shields and is easy to headshot with. The blunderbuss should really never be used on anything thats either a boss or a special thats just a little to far away.

>>14470112

thats not a boss or a special*

>>14470112

Well being a ranger I have a skill that reduces weapon spread and getting a headshot is no ammo wasted. and against a weak swarm it's pretty great to clear a few while running towards them.

Also halbred has to be his fastest cleaving weapon, if you slash once, guard, you can reset the animation and keep on cleaving constantly, its lacking in damage but by far the best at kiting and clearing swarms due to its extended range.

>>14468647

Finally got them to (begrudgingly) do a round of Veteran last night. We opted not to grab grims until we're more comfortable with the things. There were drastically reduced pickups, with most typical locations having nothing at all. Don't know how you could reduce it further without removing pickups entirely. Nightmare in V1 still had a lot of pickups so this seems weird to me.

Spawn conditions were interesting. There were roughly three times as many elites around the map, occasionally multiple simultaneous rothelms, pretty frequent specials, and considerably more shielded enemies about to fuck with pack cleaving. Enemy health was noticeably higher. Sienna's flamethrower staff was MVP for crowd thinning.

We got two chaos spawns over the course of the map; one from the guaranteed boss spawn from the barn door, and one randomly spawning on the long road before hopping the fence with a ladder. The guys need to learn the damn attack pattern… they got grabbed multiple times so killing the spawns took forever. At least it wasn't those fucking flamethrower ogres.

I think they both died once during the map, but aside from that we did fine. Actually being challenged instead of ending every map with 3 tomes, 2 grims, and never needing any of the abundant health pickups felt good for a change.

Now if only I could convince the fucking knife-ear to stop burning all their ammo on trash and wasting their trueflight on slave rats. We're spoiling them by playing ammo-less classes.

>>14470097

unless I go huntsmen, nah there's alot of times where you need the range more then anything

>>14470127

Pickups are pretty random. I get some games where I'm swimming in health even on vet. In fact I just did one map where I swear there were 3 health kits around every corner, but not a single ammo pickup (let alone a box) anywhere on the map.

>>14470142

Kruber has terrible ranged weapons, his other choices are outdone by the other characters, the blunderbuss stands out as something that can be a gamechanger. His other ranged weapons are merely stuff that pick off enemies, if you arent a ranger his ranged weapons are just irrelevant. Besides the blunderbuss which can still oneshot a powerful enemy like a stormvermin.

>>14470175

I love that kinda build, I have something similar to saltspyre, with his multifiring crossbow, since it can shoot 3 arrows at once and with a passive to crit every 8 seconds, you can just fill your ammo up instantly through one shot, since the arrows pierce, its ridiculous.

>>14470127

>At least it wasn't those fucking flamethrower ogres.

How are you having difficulty with them? They are literally the easiest boss enemies in the game, even ratogres are more dangerous. They do almost no damage with their flamethrower, aim slowly and barely move most of the time, so you can pretty much stand still and spam headshots or back-baby shots.

>>14470194

I don't know to be honest. Out of all the boss varieties, those are the only ones that give me any real trouble. Could be that we just always get them in narrow corridors when I don't have a long range weapon (range being the only downside to the drakegun) and can't get behind them because everywhere is on fire. They also subjectively seem to be less common than the other varieties so I'm least practiced with their patterns.

>>14470190

well yeah, if you're not playing kruber with stamina and speed you're doing it wrong, his "sniper musket" can one shot if you head shot

>thought shitter elves was a meme, the ones so far knew where all the tomes and grims were hiding at, took down bosses quickly

>load into Hunger in the Dark

>this elf wants to prove the meme true

>runs off on his own, shooting every normal enemy in sight

>get just before the first cart, mic spams "I NEED AMMO GUYS, IM OUT OF ARROWS. DONT GO ANY FURTHER TIL I GET ARROWS GUYS"

>he finds ammo, we proceed and clear up the baddies at the bottom of the tracks

>bile troll pops up, proceeds to push our shit in

>sienna goes down, dwarf and i try pulling aggro so someone can res sienna

>wait wheres the elf

<off fucking about in some random corner, trying to find ammo or some shit. nowheres near the fight

>dwarf and i switch between res'ing sienna and keeping troll busy

>sienna murders the fucking troll while the elf is still hiding in some fucking corner somewhere doing jack shit

>dwarf is at 30% health, im at about the same, sienna is on temp health only, elf is at over 50fucking%

>elf is again whining over mic "I NEED AMMO GUYS DID YOU SEE ANY AMMO ANYWHERE"

<because we were totally watching ammo placements while fighting a fucking bile troll in tight quarters

>proceed to second cart, health pot and medkit nearby

>down health pot quick and try to grab kit to heal sienna

>fucking elf grabs it befire i can and just runs the fuck off into the darkness

>team gets split up

>sienna goes down first, i get strangled, elf gets pulverized because she cant see the fucking "I WIN" buttons on their little rat foreheads anymore

>dwarf attempts valiant last stand but eventually goes down as well

>mission failure

A shame, because the party promptly split up after that. The elf was complete shit and needed to go, but Sienna and Bardin were pretty good

Just hit level 25 elf, time to start leveling somthing else, going for mage next I think

What determines the power level of equipment in boxes? I thought it was your character level, but I just started working on a second character and the levelup box was still generating at power 160+

>>14471401

I just started playing her managed to get her to lvl6 once I get her to 7 I'll probably start playing Dwarf.

>>14471471

I think it might be your highest character on your profile.

>>14471481

>>14471471

It seems to be a cumulative total level.

Leveling salty to 30 I was only getting around 170ish power on items. After leveling a bit of Bardin and Sienna, I'm getting shit in the 200s now.

>>14470194

>>14471514

The higher your power from the loot you have, the loot you obtain will go up also.

You should save your commendation chests for when you are above 200 power, you will get stuff to help you on higher difficulties.

>>14471546

>You should save your commendation chests for when you are above 200 power

Definitely this. I've got about 40 of them saved up for this exact purpose. If you're one of those people that thought the game was difficult starting out, or that the gap from recruit to veteran was fairly significant, the gap from veteran to champ is 10 times worse. Commendation chests are un-capped, so they're basically like getting free champ-level chests; don't squander them.

>>14471571

I never considered that, I was just opening them so I can stockpile on crafting components.

I've been completing 1 out of every 6 games.

Elf seems op as fuck and mine is lvl 4 only, while everyone else is 8-9. Why so much hate for it, outside of the shitty dialog i mean. That I understand; sounds like a total cunt all the time.

>>14471747

Elf is easy mode, so elf players don't git gud, and, and I guess it attracts shitters to begin with

>>14471762

Yeah but that's just scrubs that will get bored of the game in 1 weeks and hopefully gtfo. Since elf has such good skills and weapons in the hands of a good player it should be great, or am I missing the point?

>>14471747

The Elf is strong and can be useful to the team if the player isn't an idiot.

However, the lion's share of people playing her are idiots. Expect your elf to:

○ burn arrows on trash that dies from a single light melee attack

○ burn their career cooldown at every time except when it would be useful

○ run ahead, grabbing then wasting all of your party's supplies

○ run around 200 yards from everyone else doing god knows what

○ pick up grimoires when the party is fighting a known guaranteed boss spawn

○ dying with said grimoires, since they're too far away to be helped by anyone

○ unable to time dodges whatsoever and allergic to blocking

>>14471799

Personally I save most of my arrows for armored enemies and specials, though I will throw a few at trash if I'm close to full ammo. I use my cooldown the instant I see a special enemy or in the general direction of where I think a special is, because it autotargets around corners. I might also use it against armored enemies or when a horde appears, as well as during bosses as often as possible.

But really, I picked elf because I saw the spear gameplay and wanted that. I assume most people picked elf because archer or because girl.