cafbcf No.14441537
Through some odd combination of a vacuum tube and a means in which lines can be drawn on the inside of a super thick lighbulb powered by a deathly high voltage and lined with a toxic phosphor we've been given the gift of display technology of the 1900s. The mighty CRT is a technology that's been around since the 1800s, but used, aged, and refined for over 100 years into a display technology that works on the very foundation of our electrical infrastructure in order to spit images line by line at incredibly high speeds just to display it across a metal grating which filters electrons into a discernible image. It's a little fuzzy and in many ways has yet to be surpassed and is undeniably the definitive way to display games from older consoles that worked at standard definition and often below standard def. This way of portraying images became the defining aesthetic for video technology for years, and of course, video games.
Are you still using a CRT for games or are you looking to integrate one in to your setup? Are you looking to get into RGB on your old systems or tuning geometry or performing a recap? Whether you're emulating at 3840x240 60hz or 640x240 120hz, or just figuring out if it's worth getting into SCART or building your own BNC cables, lets talk about tubes and games on them.
940335 No.14441544
This has to be an elaborate false flag against genuine CRT appreciation.
cafbcf No.14441550
>>14441544
No, that's too meta. Just talk about tubes and games on tubes.
ff2331 No.14441557
What type of CRT is this?
78ba85 No.14441558
As awesome as CRTs are, they keep dying and thus getting more difficult to obtain, especially in decent sizes and with proper screen quality.
Wouldn't it be possible to create a CRT experience with an OLED screen with a high enough pixel density? The individual red blue and green subpixels could be placed in CRT patterns I'd say.
if only Canon hadn't ruined SED screen development ;_;
333dab No.14441565
>>14441557
looks like a Panasonic
cafbcf No.14441578
>>14441558
CRTs are very hard to actually have "die." Unless you're destroying the tube the sets themselves are particularly modular provided you know what you're doing. Swapping boards, replacing capacitors, etc. It's a task to maintain them, but even the old vacuum tube non-transistorized sets are still running.
As far as using OLED to replicate it, I saw some interesting things in a VR client for emulation and it did a decent job at recreating a CRT within the environment with a slot mask type tube. It didn't look quite right and was reliant on emulation which has its caveats and flaws but it was a good effort and clearly there's room for getting that look better and better. I think achieving this on a software level is more feasible than a hardware level, the way the phosphor grill works on a CRT is something that can't really be replicated with OLED subpixels.
>>14441557
>>14441565
I'd be interested in what kind as it looks like it has a computer input option which is likely RGB.
183454 No.14441609
>>14441578
>CRTs are very hard to actually have "die."
It's true, I salvaged one that was left out during torrential rain once. I ended up giving it to my friend since I didn't have the space for it, but it worked just fine.
f5fa6e No.14441713
>>14441537
trying to use my 19" Trinitron monitor as little as i can until pic related becomes reality
cafbcf No.14441769
>>14441713
Just adjust the G2 voltage and make sure those capacitors are healthy, you'll get a few decades out of it I'm sure. In my next PC build I'm gonna be upgrading to a 980 for graphics because it's the last and best GPU which has proper analog out. I'll be integrating an FD Trinitron that does 1600x1200 alongside a 10-bit flat panel. I think that'll be great. 4:3 to my right, 16:9 to my left, and absolute comfort with classic games and a few new ones too.
3bf1bf No.14441776
>>14441713
Never ever anon.
67bfbf No.14441809
So, I was finally able to get this beast hooked up to use as a monitor. And it was awful. It gave me a headache due to running it at 30hz. And trying to calibrate it left me realizing it bled colour horribly and also the blacks were as bad as a cheap LCD (hell the LCD TV I'm using as a monitor does blacks better).
Also I couldn't for my life get it to accept a ratio that fit the screen perfectly (and the damn thing wouldn't let me adjust the display setting)
At least it was free, I'll use it for my old consoles which shouldn't have the issues the computer had trying to output to it via HDMI.
cafbcf No.14441819
>>14441809
16:9 HD CRTs just aren't very good. Get something older that's 4:3. Can't really go wrong with trinitron. The only good wide screen CRTs were pure monitors with no TV tuning capability.
c18169 No.14441878
It won't be too long before those that grew up with a CRT or even knows what it looks like become a vanishing minority in most western countries. It might already be the case for films projected on actual film rather than digitally.
I have a pretty high end CRT monitor that was designed for medical and satellite imaging but almost never use it. Same with the Sony 1080i 34" television that's collecting dust in a basement. I wouldn't be surprised if they're both never turned on again. Nobody I know wants to deal with a 120-200lb monster with ancient ports and a small screen size when a newer 4k 50" panel weighs almost nothing in comparison.
cafbcf No.14441900
>>14441878
The thing is, that monitor you have is fantastic for standard definition images. The more people want to experience how the old games are supposed to look and less of pic related, there will be a niche audience for the old tubes. If you've been around conventions or old stores which has people playing games on them, when the kids see them they tend to have a sort of curiosity about the quality of the picture, and the older crowd that's still into them recognize that they are sort of essential.
27b3a8 No.14441917
>>14441557
>We will never see another Riding Bean OVA or a series
000000 No.14442154
How are early 2000s CRTs for emulated gaymen on GNU/Linux?
Is it possibru to force the Retroarch GUI to adapt the resolution of any running core?
For VGA purposes.
cafbcf No.14442157
>>14442154
It might even be easier to output 640x480 120hz to a VGA CRT in Linux.
b93ced No.14442161
>Cotton
Oh it's this faggot again.
f14a04 No.14442178
>>14441809
>HD CRT
Ya dun goofed, anon
000000 No.14442223
What about sub-VGA Nintoddler meme resolutions?
I want the signal at 640x480 or lower in fullscreen instead of a 1024x768 fullscreen X Window displaying a 256x224 image like RA does on my current LCD.
7cc570 No.14442234
>he fell for the CRT meme
There's a reason nobody uses them anymore, they're inferior to modern televisions. Technology continues to improve, to the disappointment of TV luddites.
000000 No.14442236
bf97e1 No.14442242
cafbcf No.14442250
>>14442223
It depends on the crts operating frequency. A 31khz crt has a minimum frequency of 640x480 progressive scan at 60hz for a vertical refresh. You can do tricks like doing 640x240 at 120hz and most pc crts can do this just fine but I'm not sure how to force that in linux.
7cc570 No.14442258
>>14442242
If they're so good, then why does nobody use them? It's really not complicated, anon. TV hipsters chasing nostalgia you'll never find.
89f7b0 No.14442295
>>14442234
>Modern TVs
>superior
>No true blacks
>Dead pixels
>Computer chips make classic vidya have input lag
>Can only last 3 to 5 years, maybe more if you're lucky.
000000 No.14442306
>>14442258
Noone uses them because they were shilled out of production eat power like a burger, are unsuitable for most portable devices and too hueg in comparison to the more versatile LCD, you paid baka.
50a31d No.14442317
>>14442258
Because they arbitrarily decided to stop making them. I would use them right now if I could find one.
Oh by the way technology for thin CRTs exists but since it's tied up in shitty patent laws or some shit we can't have them.
cafbcf No.14442365
>>14442306
they were put out of production mostly because in the room you could fit one 32" CRT you could fit 5 32" flat panels. When you can break it down to cheaper to produce, cheaper to ship, cheaper to ship a lot of, you can make a disposable technology that despite being worse in every way, will take over.
>>14442317
SED isn't CRT, it's got similar principles and would have been highly competitive with LCD panels during the HDTV explosion.
50a31d No.14442394
>>14442365
>cheaper
Everything about modern technology is "cheaper" and most of it not in a good way. That old SNL skit about disposable electronic post-it note devices has come true in the worst possible way.
5617cf No.14442399
>>14442258
Nobody uses vinyl discs for music either and they have vastly superior audio quality over CDs. Digital audio is only catching up to analog in the past couple of years.
Being the most widely adopted technology has no bearing on its quality. It is a combination of price and convenience after you pass a baseline of performance/quality. CRTs have better quality than flat panels except for pixel density but they aren't cheap in the long run with energy prices as they are and are terribly inconvenient being heavy and big as they are.
cafbcf No.14442408
>>14442399
>Nobody uses vinyl discs for music either
on the contrary, year after year, Vinyl has gone up in sales by 30% since I think 2012. Stop taking the bait, by the way.
f5fa6e No.14442425
>>14442234
>There's a reason nobody uses them anymore
and that reason is you can only buy like 10,000 brand new units from Alibaba which also takes like 6-8mo to produce and deliver (not including sitting in customs).
>they're inferior to modern televisions.
nah.
>Technology continues to improve, to the disappointment of TV luddites.
Look at his moron try to throw around words he's heard before, like 'Luddite', but doesn't know the actual meaning. 100% nigger.
1bc62a No.14442760
muh 50 kg television nostalgia
> 2018
> not letting go of the past
23c530 No.14442792
>>14442760
>2018
>Appeal to Novelty Fallacies
89f7b0 No.14443117
>>14442760
See >>14442295 for reasons.
Widescreen TVs are quite awful for classic vidya, and you're too milennial to understand that.
89f7b0 No.14443123
>>14443117
Widescreen LCDs I mean.
But yeah. My point still stands.
d0c152 No.14443125
>>14442399
its not 2004 anymore Anon, Vinyl has already made its comeback years ago and only continues to gain more popularity.
cafbcf No.14443127
>>14443117
>>14443123
the worst thing about flat panels is this.
3be8ba No.14443340
>>14442399
>Nobody uses vinyl discs for music either
Wrong ever since 2012 they have been selling more than CDs.
d55cb4 No.14443574
>>14441537
> The """Majestic""" CRT
I was temporarily blinded when I was a kid because I spent too long playing Crash Bandicoot on a CRT. Anyone who thinks modern displays aren't superior for the simple reason that they don't irradiate your retinas is a retard.
99f828 No.14443575
>>14441537
>Whether you're emulating at 3840x240 60hz or 640x240 120hz
Why does everyone think every CRT is 240p? I have like 5 CRT monitors that have a native resolution above 1600x1200.
The monitor I'm using right now is a 1920x1440 90hz Trinitron.
>>14442234
For most people LCD is fine, I'm just personally autistic about input lag in PC games and Want something that will last me more than 5 years.
>>14442258
Because retailers stopped carrying them as they were too heavy and took up too much space, despite the fact that they sold more CRTs than LCDs in the mid 2000s. Turns out storage is a major factor in determining if something will still be sold, another example is when McDonalds stopped selling milkshakes until the 90s because storing the icecream was far too expensive.
Since no retailers would buy them they just stopped producing them, despite the consumer demand for the. now it's been a whole generation and people just forgot about them as "shitty tube TVs" because all they ever used were 480i non-appeture grille consumer TVs watching VHS through RF.
cafbcf No.14443600
>>14443575
>Why does everyone think every CRT is 240p? I have like 5 CRT monitors that have a native resolution above 1600x1200.
emulating at 240p means you get a very authentic look.
6a862b No.14443631
>it's yet another autism thread shilling for bad outdated technology based on cathode ray radiation, coil whine, curved displays, and mind control flicker rates
c3b086 No.14443703
>skim the internet for months to try to find literally any information about two crts I owned
>can't find anything outside of manuals for a different company in a different language
>>14443575
>Why does everyone think every CRT is 240p?
Because they're using shitty consumer grade crts that have been stuck in the corner of a garage without being turned on in half a decade before being thrown into a thrift store and running RF/Composite into it.
6c3860 No.14443736
>>14443732
>Debate me
Not without any incentive, twerp.
d56b6e No.14443746
e0ef07 No.14443748
>>14443732
is that some sort of bait?
bc96e6 No.14443753
>>14441557
The model number is CTF-1465R
>>14441578
RGB through an EIAJ 8-Pin connection. >>14441917
But there is an OAV anon.
9056e2 No.14443773
>>14443771
fug forgot to remove flag
cafbcf No.14443776
>>14443753
>RGB through an EIAJ 8-Pin connection.
is it digital RGB?
bc96e6 No.14443800
>>14443776
>is it digital RGB?
That would be my first guess but It is on a Panasonic so it could go either way. I will have to locate the manual and see if it mentions digital or analog.
9f6091 No.14445580
>>14443753
>But there is an OVA
I said another one anon, besides the original one.
8d8a76 No.14445638
>>14443732
I'm genuinely curious if this was unironically posted to reddit.
aa9a82 No.14445731
What's a good model of CRT to look for if I want a smaller, lighter one? I have a 27" one (iirc) and while it's pretty great, it's a huge pain to move around.
>>14441557
>Gunsmith Cats
good taste
ff2331 No.14445770
>>14443753
I haven't a snowball's chance in hell of finding one, but I'll keep my eyes open. Thanks for the ID, anon.
85e138 No.14445800
>>14443732
>last one is a picture of a screen in a rainbow background
almost got me there
27b3a8 No.14445834
>>14445638
I have no doubt that what you posted is from Reddit.
4b0f80 No.14445847
>first image
>one controller
damn thats sad, i remember playing tekken 3 with my friends when i was 10 years old
8d8a76 No.14445849
>>14445638
>>14445834
www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/4cw5np/corsair_monitor_comparison/
Why do they all talk like this? It's like an entire site full of kids I bullied in HS.
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27b3a8 No.14445876
>>14445849
>Linkimg directly to reddit
>Browsing reddit
>>>/cuckchan/
fc1739 No.14445892
Still don't get why people prefer giving up video quality for a few miliseconds of latency. CRTs make games look bloody terrible, and the people that like the blur on CRTs remind me of the filterfags in emulator threads.
To be fair, guess I never got why people liked AA, either. Looks like someone rubbed vaseline over the screen.
dbfc6f No.14446111
>>14445892
looks better than emulation and flat panels. if you wanna see true shit plug your old systems into an lcd
38e714 No.14448565
>>14445892
>CRTs makes games look bloody terrible.
Gr8 b8 m8
Maybe if you are using some crapola CRT TV, if you actually used CRT PC monitor for once it beats any fucking LCD, if you want CRT tier graphics you need to invest fortune into OLED display
9b7964 No.14448576
Is there program that puts crt screenlines on the monitor? Kind of like how you can use crt screenline filters on a snes emulator and what not, but for whole screen like flux?
bc96e6 No.14448818
>>14445731
>Gunsmith Cats
>>14445770
That is a copy of the US LD but I also have the Japanese LDs on that same shelf. I dropped the LD rips on /animu/ a few weeks ago.
bc96e6 No.14448828
>>14448824
Here they are again
db5831 No.14448879
Friend offered to give me a 17 inch CRT syncmaster. Dunno jack about it. Worth?
cafbcf No.14448893
>>14448879
Yes, go for it. Having a monitor for games at a locked resolution like certain 2D games or playing low resolution 3D games like quake is a delight on a tube.
e05b11 No.14448901
fdaebd No.14448910
>>14443732
>Karma
>Front page
Fuck off back to reddit.
db5831 No.14448915
>>14448893
But is there anything that sets it apart from other CRT monitors? I can just go pick one up a bigger one at thrift If I want for $4.
cafbcf No.14448919
>>14448915
not particularly. If you can get an NEC, Mitsubishi, Trinitron or Iiyama or other highly regarded sets, go for those instead.
6c3860 No.14449069
>>14448901
Please don't do that.
06863b No.14449422
Brown Rally or Blonde Rally?
bc96e6 No.14449939
>>14449422
Both at the same time atta range shooting on either side of you in a tight lane
199902 No.14456927
My FW900 has convergence problems at 1900x1200, when I tweak for one side of the screen, chromabs happen on the opposite side. I wanna kms
199902 No.14456940
>>14456927
the crazy thing is, my Diamondtron has convergence tweaking in menu for each corner of the screen, while the Trinitron doesn't
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
844b96 No.14457299
>>14442399
>vinyl
>vastly superior audio quality over CDs
with people spouting such nonsense its no wonder that we have to fight so hard against the 'crt is a meme' meme.
cafbcf No.14457317
>>14457299
you don't fight against shitposters, you pry at them until you can ruin their interests, absolute subversion before they can do it to you.
>>14456927
have you ran WinDAS and done any fine adjustments on it? This is a necessity for the FW900.
183454 No.14457329
>>14457299
Are you saying that vinyl does not have superior audio quality over CDs?
4b303b No.14457356
My school had CTRs for their computers back in 2014 or something when I was still in highschool, a friend of mine once started to shake his monitor back and forth(the support allowed different angles towards your face) as a joke.
Suddenly it started to smoke and he stopped to see what was happening. Suddenly it caught on fire, everyone saw it and ran from the computer lab.
No one had seen the autistic act he just pulled so he didn't even get called to go anywhere because of it, it just became a fun story that me and another retard share.
cafbcf No.14457366
>>14457356
today we learned a lesson not to fuck with old, fine pitch electronics which no doubt from years of similar treatment saw possible damage and was finally put over the edge
>being in school 4 years ago
I'm getting old
a09ee3 No.14457627
Hi CRT-fags,
tell me if and when this will become a thing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field-emission_display
Each tube makes one subpixel which removes the limiting factor for resolution and Hz.
cafbcf No.14457634
>>14457627
>not capable of multiscanning
processing, blurriness, and lag, here we come.
>In January 2010, Taiwanese AU Optronics Corporation (AUO) announced that it had acquired assets from Sony's FET and FET Japan
if nothing happens by 2020, expect nothing and you'll be stuck in LCD hell for life.
199902 No.14457639
>>14457317
Will I need the DTP-94? I don't own one. I did install Passmark's software and fiddled with it but the available options in the monitor's OSD are miniscule compared to what I was capable of achieving with the Diamontron.
I know a really competent guy who probably could take the monitor to his shop but he wasn't really willing and the thing's heavy. he told me to open up the monitor and do tweaking myself - I don't think I'm comfortable with that.
a09ee3 No.14457660
>>14457634
>multiscanning
Does it matter with 240Hz?
cafbcf No.14457661
>>14457639
the fw900 literally has a serial port inside, just below the power out, remove the panel and plug it into your PC and you can do all the fine adjustments with a mouse and keyboard in a nice application called WinDAS. Just don't put your mouth on the flyback or tear the probe off or something. This will prolong the life of your tube. I think you can even use a usb adapter if you don't have a serial connection.
199902 No.14457689
>>14457661
wow, thanks. I guess I could find tutorials on HardForum? Unless you have any handy tutorials, which would be much appreciated.
cafbcf No.14457717
199902 No.14457727
>>14457717
noic. Gonna have a weekend or longer project then.
Will you mind me asking another question?
When I turn on the monitor, its brightness is much higher than expected. After ~15 minutes the brightness becomes normal. I guess it isn't dying but have you heard of such a symptom?
cafbcf No.14457743
>>14457727
it's a few things but the fw900 in particular has a higher G2 voltage than it should. All CRTs however require a warming period of anywhere from 5 minutes to half an hour before the picture is considered to spec and has settled. It's normal, but the FW900 in particular has a few issues which can all be sorted through that serial connection. You might be familiar with some electronics or hardware in general having labels that they should be kept in a certain temperature, it's the same principle here. Sort of like how you should let your car warm up a little before going, especially in the winter.
199902 No.14457752
>>14457743
>warming period of anywhere from 5 minutes to half an hour before the picture is considered to spec and has settled
Yeah, I get it but lemme tell ya… that Lacie Electron 22 IV really spoiled me. I didn't experience such quirks with it.
If it wasn't for that glorious 16:10 aspect ratio, it would still be my go-to.
cafbcf No.14457774
>>14457752
I had an Electron 22 IV some time ago, I still miss it. Aging electronics show all kinds of issues, and because CRTs are analog they still power through the aging elements and you may for that reason see artifacts from those aged elements. If it was an LCD display, it probably just wouldn't turn on any more, at least it can be diagnosed visually.
d13a68 No.14458439
>>14441537
>dat KX-14CP1
nice
>>14445849
Because reddit has a shitty design that creates a positive feedback loop which leads to an echo chamber effect which leads to intense conformity. Echo chambers also isolate people from criticism and slowly warp normal guys with slight beta tendencies into whiny special snowflakes that cannot handle anything outside their comfort zone without losing their shit. I've seen it happen to people IRL and it is fucking tragic.
a2ad17 No.14458467
>>14441578
Mine is dying on me so I'm planing on throwing it out or giving it away to some other nerd and finding another one to myself.
I like electronics but I'm not savy enough to try and fix a tube TV. Plus the thing holds a lot of charge in it, or so I heard.
Served me well, this one. Though none of the pictures I took really do it justice.
79fdba No.14458687
2 questions.
1. Is it possible to get flat-screen CRT TV geometry perfect or should I just live with the slight warping?
2. What's the best way to adjust PCC? Should I go from the corners down or the middle up?
f94af3 No.14459300
Is their a way to config VGA signals from pc into component without a separate converter? Good PC tubes are getting very rare here in my location.
f1ef82 No.14460676
>>14442295
I have a LCD TV that's last me over 7 years tbh
5fb3f1 No.14461245
>Want to fix CRT
>Have to have work bench
>have to learn electricity safety
>have to learn 100 other things
>have to learn 300 things if I want to RGB mod it
Help
cafbcf No.14461652
>>14461245
it's not that hard. find a capacitor list, order good quality variants, crack it open, look up how to discharge, go to town.
>>14459300
you need a converter because component (y/pb/pr) is different from VGA (RGBHV) I don't know any good converters, sorry.
>>14458467
I'm sure you can fix it if you're feeling confident.
>>14458439
I've got the PVM-1390 variant of the set, I got it mostly because I love the design and I'm huge into beige for any sort of electronic.
1fd16f No.14461667
>>14461245
I stuck my key in a plug at highschool and threw it clean across the room then had to do a test with my left hand because my whole right arm went numb, I could have fucking died.
5fb3f1 No.14461773
>>14461667
CRTs are worse. a friend of a friend said he tried to fix a crt in the 90's when he was a VCR repairman & he said he shit his pants in the span of 3 seconds.
CRTs can fucking kill you.
cafbcf No.14461806
>>14461773
that's why you discharge it. 25-45kv to the heart doesn't feel good.
cafbcf No.14461896
>>14461858
>not even a single mention of CX discs, dbx, hi-com
good to know all his information is based on the technology pre 1980s
5753df No.14461967
>CRT
LOL enjoy your eye cancer, nerds.
6df83c No.14461998
>>14443125
You posted an absolutely horrible example, though. Currents is brickwalled as fuck
183454 No.14463611
>>14461858
>Post too long.
You couldn't even get the whole post?
2d6244 No.14463829
>>14441537
>CRT monitors weigh more
>CRT monitors are sensitive to ambient magnetic fields
>CRT monitors only have high refresh rates at low resolutions
>CRT monitors produce more heat and consume more energy
>CRT monitors flicker at lower refresh rates
>tfw you didn't fall for the CRT meme
420541 No.14464568
>>14441537
Third pic: Is that DVD hooked up to an external hard drive?
420541 No.14464617
>>14464568
I say DVD, I meant the TV. Showcasing just how tech-illiterate I am there…
036f7c No.14464630
Holy fuck I LOVE radiation, eye pain, headaches, blurry images, and scanlines that can just be emulated. CRT FTW!
4439c7 No.14464940
eacdc8 No.14465254
>>14463611
That was the whole post, when expanding it, only the line saying that the post was too long would be removed.
e4c5cc No.14465772
>>14464630
Me too, I fucking love melting my eyes staring at blurry NES games.
dbfc6f No.14465808
>>14463829
144hz doesn't matter if every frame looks like this
dbfc6f No.14465818
>>14464568
>>14464617
looks like some Teac brand DVR. I googled Teac DVR and saw this in the results, might be the exact same model hooked up to the ikegami tm14-18r.
c18169 No.14465913
>>14465808
For those wondering this image is from blur blusters, they sell kits to boost the refresh rates on certain 4k monitors to 480Hz at 540p.
>>14465818
Found it
http://www.teac.com.au/video/product-detail/hdb850-digital-set-top-box-with-usb-recording
5fb3f1 No.14466836
>When you're into VHS & Laserdisc & nobody else is & all the prices are dirt cheap
I'm so glad that hasn't caught on yet. Watching 240p Horror movies on my CRT is the most comfortable thing imaginable.
b31451 No.14467282
>>14441537
>Whether you're emulating at 3840x240 60hz or 640x240 120hz,
I've been wanting to pick up a CRT for emulation for some time now. How does this setup handle when some SNES and PS1 games go into 480p mode for menus and such? Downscaling?
16fd85 No.14467289
>>14466836
>Watching 240p Horror movies on my CRT
Said no one ever.
651cc4 No.14467378
>>14467282
snes and ps1 games use 480i mode. they'll do it exactly like they do at whatever resolution you're already using. Start up sonic 2 2-player mode to test it out now.
8b99eb No.14467440
I want to go back to using a CRT but I don't have any room to put one.
651cc4 No.14467462
>>14467440
get a nice 13-17" one. pro monitors are nice because they're cubes, so they act as additional storage space very neatly.
f048f6 No.14467482
>are you looking to add a CRT to your setup
Absolutely. Playing classic stretched out on a LCD is annoying. Gotta play 'em the way God intended.
b31451 No.14467709
>>14467378
Ah, right. I forgot it's 480i, not p.
Time pick me up a CRT monitor.
5b003d No.14472691
how does one go around fixing this issue? the degaussing feature on my pvm-20m2mdu don't fix.
b183b2 No.14474948
>>14472691
Is there a pair of speakers on the sides? Thats the kind of discoloration you'd get from a magnet being in that area around the tube. Also try rotating the position the tube faces, the earths polarity can also cause interference.
28d00a No.14474964
>>14472691
PVM screens are not made for videogames, many games from the 90s need a regular CRT from that era to properly display certain stuff.
cafbcf No.14475308
>>14474964
that's got nothing to do with the type of monitor, it's magnetic distortion in the bottom right causing that discoloration. I forgot how good 480p looked on a pro monitor.
4d96ce No.14475371
So what you’re telling me is that Meleefags were right all along?
cafbcf No.14475402
>>14475371
no, they dont know anything about crt and just cling to the pvmeme and do shit like this and wonder "why is picture no good?" They just know the basic that CRT is essential for old games like melee.
cafbcf No.14475579
you can tell it's the best version of THPS2 because of the grass. It's even better in 480p on a broadcast monitor.
e20b96 No.14477251
>>14456927
>FW900
Does this monitor work with current games? And where can I find this cheap? Does any third world country still sell it?
cafbcf No.14477269
>>14477251
its 16:10, yeah it'll work with modern games. They aren't very common unfortunately.
70fbbf No.14477274
any crt's that are awesome for gaming? Preferably at least 720p?
5b003d No.14477582
>>14474948
I don't have any magnets or speakers next to the monitor, except for the one built-in the PVM. the discoloration is exactly the same no matter where the monitor is located in my room
651cc4 No.14478299
>>14477274
xbr960 or multiformat monitors
e20b96 No.14480909
>>14477269
You were right, I can't find any. What recommendation would you give for a LED 16:10 monitor?
cafbcf No.14480925
>>14480909
>>14480913
Dell monitors are generally very good. Keep in mind 16:10 support isn't great for games, but you'll have good results in probably 90% of games. Most games support 16:9 primarily as it's the most common aspect ratio today.
99f70f No.14489824
>>14442295
When was the last time you touched a modern TV anon? 2005?
>consume significantly less energy
>true blacks thanks to OLED
>dead pixels are basically nonexistent now that we know how to properly fabricate the panels
>input lag hasn't been a thing for years
cafbcf No.14489830
99f70f No.14489841
>>14489830
Show me one CRT that consumes less energy than a modern flat panel, I dare you
cafbcf No.14489843
>>14489841
>clinging to the one truth to spread 5 other lies
kys shill
2967f8 No.14489940
>>14489824
>OLED
Enjoy having ghost images imprinted on your LEDs
4859c2 No.14489946
Anyone else find it interesting how 99% of CRTfag photos look like they're in untidy poorfag hovels?
117260 No.14490064
>>14443574
>I was temporarily blinded when I was a kid because I spent too long playing Crash Bandicoot on a CRT
cafbcf No.14490070
>>14490064
CRTs weed out the weak soypeople. Flat panels are for weak children and vegans.
117260 No.14490090
>>14490070
>CRTs weed out the weak soypeople
I very much doubt a CRT can blind you at all, I knew a girl who wanted to have glasses and would hold her face close to the TV all the time. Her vision's totally fine of course, the amount of radiation received from sitting in front of a CRT for a whole year is still less than what you receive from background radiation in a single day.
cafbcf No.14490120
>>14490090
I'm making a joke m8, also CRTs produce banana tier radiation.
2967f8 No.14490137
>>14490090
>>14443574
If you need to keep your face close to a TV as a kid and use glasses, chances are you were born with shitty eyes.
97dbe1 No.14490161
WHERE DO I FIND A FUCKING COMPONENT INPUT CRTV? NOBODY FUCKING SELLS THEM GOD DAMN IT
cafbcf No.14490269
>>14490161
silver ones made after the year 2000. sony wega, jvc i'art, panasonic tau, jvc theaterview SD, etc.
b1b277 No.14490615
So I have an old laptop with a broken screen and I'm planning to remove it so I can plug that thing up to a CRT and use it as an emulation machine to play Genesis games. CRT screens are dirt cheap on my country anyway.
dbfc6f No.14491270
>>14490615
good luck, and try to set it to a 640x240 120hz mode this way you can get natural blank scanlines.
9c3421 No.14495622
Where can I find information on fixing, safety and general maintenance for consumer sets? I have an ilo dtv2794b from 2007 and the horizontal linearity is fucked, as well as some other geometry. I've fucked around with the service menu and managed to kinda get it to where I want to, but the image seems fucked mostly on the right side of the screen, where vertical lines can look a bit crooked. I cannot fix the H. Linearity using the service menu and the image gets squished about 50% as it scrolls to the right. It's extremely annoying on 2D games. I know you can fuck around with the coil and fix it but it's apparently really delicate, and I kinda blame capacitors for the crooked lines but I'm not sure at all. I have the service manual if that helps.
http://diagramas.diagramasde.com/otros/ilo%20-%20DTV2794.PDF
cafbcf No.14499747
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14495622
you may largely be in the dark but you can try scouring the web for them or even directly contacting the manufacturer who may still have them. Ikegami has given me several schematics on request, but of course not all companies are the same. You may be stuck inspecting caps, replacing them on your own. Give yourself an afternoon. As far as safety goes, discharging is the one concern. CRTs have a ground shield on the front rim of the tube inside the chassis, just clip to that and pop the probe.
49cfd3 No.14501699
I was given a CRT along with a Windows 98 machine but it isn't very bright and has some burn-in. The native resolution is also pretty small too so it isn't good for GUI stuff. If only it works perfectly, then I wouldn't have to use an LCD monitor. Thankfully it is 4:3 though.
b31451 No.14504459
>>14441550
I wonder if GameCube games would look sharper on a CRT monitor running at 480p via Dolphin. I forgot how blurry these things were.
cafbcf No.14507267
>>14504459
what game do you wanna see? I can load it up on my Panasonic BT-H1700p.
cc7a89 No.14507689
>>14504459
I got a VGA kit back in the day, and running it on my Apple Trinitron was about a zillion times sharper. Of course, only a handful of GCN titles actually supported p-scan, so for all the other 15khz bullshit I still had to use a TV (or my Mac's tuner).
Also, interesting fact: GCN's native video, no matter which output you used, was 4:2:2 chroma subsampled at the source. So when you use Dolphin, even at 640x480, the red and blue channels are both double the resolution of actual GCN hardware.
0bbd4f No.14508295
>>14466836
It might just be the ease of acquisition or inflated prices because internet, but I can't seem to find a Laserdisc under $10 anymore, and that's before shipping. I'm also used to not paying more than $5 for one, but that's local thrift shop prices. The most I spent was $40, one time, on a copy of CHUD.
>>14490161
If you're in the Midwest USA, fucking anywhere. I helped somebody move some WEGAs from a hotel that was under reno. Got five for free.
9c3421 No.14508688
>>14499747
Much appreciated dude. This guy is nuts, using a ungrounded pair of pliers. Can't he just slide the screwdriver in there? I'm a damn newfag with this shit so I'm not quite sure.
f1d3ff No.14508706
>>14445731
rally is a currynigger
73099e No.14508798
>Using obsolete technology
cafbcf No.14509559
>>14508688
His technique is far from perfect, and if you need a guide use like a plastic spatula to start the lift and slide the screw driver in from there. It's just something you shouldn't be afraid of.
>>14507689
A lot of GC games support 480p. I don't really know any games which can't at least be forced to it without issues in something like nintendon't.
>>14508798
>using obsolete imageboard technology from the 90s instead of the superior reddit karma format
lead by example
73099e No.14514545
>>14508706
Half currynigger actually.
e19236 No.14514632
Nice thread. Finally I have an excuse to post this pic I took for no reason.