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5d630c No.14415727

>Exile 3 is a perfectly serviceable game

>Avernum 3 ends up a simplified, but still very deep and enjoyable game

>Go on to make Geneforge, which ends up having its own identity, great

>Except its engine feels like a poor mans Baldur's Gate clone

>Now let's port Avernum over to the Geneforge engine

>Tile based characters? Stuff to interact with? Fuck you! All you can do is unlock, talk, or loot shit

Damnit

d74773 No.14415764

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, it's like you're talking chinese

I really need to get into crpgs


6a6e34 No.14415793

>>14415764

nah, you're not missing out on much.


5d630c No.14415802

>>14415764

Let me rephrase that

>tfw a decently successful dev from the 2000's, who is somewhere between indie and AA quality, deviated from his established formula, casualized his games, and ends up making more than he ever did before

Mind you I can still play the old ones, but it's like a "final seal" that you know the franchise will never be good again


c5e30d No.14415836

>>14415727

Jeff Vogel has his flaws, but at least he knows Makoto is the best girl in P5.


f78c21 No.14415886

>>14415802

Do you think the mobileshit ports were to blame?


5d630c No.14415912

>>14415886

No, because he started "killing" Avernum around when 4-5 came out, which is when they were moved onto the GF engine, rather than the classic engine.

Though one could argue the same thing from when he jumped from Exile to Avernum.

Still, the mobileshit ports don't help.


f78c21 No.14415930

>>14415912

Shame

Is the tight knit community of eating it up?

If they are, there's no cure


66cb15 No.14415965

Hate to randomly hijack this thread, but is there anywhere you can play the old Exile games? 1-3 are 16-bit programs and don't work on x64 OSes and I've been missing these games for so long. I think BoE is the only one that works nowadays.


5d630c No.14415972

>>14415965

Not really a hijack since its topical. Plus I didn't really have an end goal with the thread anyways.

Can't you just use an emulator box or something?


66cb15 No.14416000

>>14415972

The only thing I've ever used in terms of that is DOSbox, and it doesn't work with games like Exile as they weren't DOS games.


116def No.14416027

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>you will never play Exile IV

Damnit Jeff, why do you hate your real fans? Why do you hate yourself? Do you really think people still replay Exile just because of the story?


116def No.14416033

>>14415965

Use Wine. Though they fucked up Exile 1 a while back around v1.6 (think it had to do with an Alsa/Pulseaudio update that broke things), and they never got around to fixing the problem. Exile II and III work fine however.


116def No.14416039

>>14415912

>Though one could argue the same thing from when he jumped from Exile to Avernum.

Isometry shat up Vogel's RPGs the same way it shat up a lot of others at the time. Isometry is a plague on top-down RPGs.


319b62 No.14416048

>>14415802

>somewhere between indie and AA quality

Vogel is pure indie basement programmer, he just managed to make a name for himself




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