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Monster Hunter World

>Despite the lack of a number, World was developed with the intent of being "Monster Hunter 5" and was built specifically to target foreign audiences who found the series too challenging.

>Like all first releases of a generation, World only goes up to High Rank. Capcom has not confirmed or denied whether G Rank content will be made, or how it will be released if it is.

>World has the first instances of paid DLC in the franchise. All paid DLC thus far has been cosmetic, and thus far all announced monster-related content is free.

>There is no longer a Village/Gathering Hall distinction. All quests can be done multiplayer. By the same token, players can no longer take on "multiplayer" quests solo, since when in single player the difficulty is set lower, and only switched to the higher difficulty if other players are present. Like in previous titles, it's a purely single/multi distinction, so difficulty is the same regardless of number of players

>Online servers are now region-free, so JP players can play with foreign players and vice versa. Filters can be set by language.

>World is rather story-intensive even compared to 4, with a large amount of cutscenes both between and during hunts. Cutscenes are unskippable. Voice acting in actual languages appears for the first time in the franchise, though traditional "Monster Hunter" language can also be enabled.

>HP damage numbers that indicate how much damage attacks do appear for the first time. They can be turned off.

>Glowing green bugs highlight interactable objects on the screen and guide the player to the monster. The ability to track monsters starts weaker and increases the more experience they gain until they at all times display a monster's position. They cannot be turned off.

>An in-game wiki-like feature has been included that gives rough estimations of weak points and drop rates.

>World launched with 30 large monsters. For comparison the most recent non-G Rank Monster Hunter titles, 4 and X/Generations, had 51 and 69 respectively. Patches will be released to up the monster count, with the first set for sometime in the spring to add Deviljho.

>Armor is no longer distinguished between Blademaster and Gunner. Regardless of weapon any armor can be equipped, with melee weapons giving a defensive boost and ranged weapons giving an elemental resistance boost.

>Armor Skills no longer require a base threshhold of points to activate, even a single point in a Skill is enough to activate it, with the effect increasing at higher levels. There are no Minus Skills. Further, some Armor sets have "set bonuses" that activate when wearing multiple pieces of the same set.

>New tools that can be used an infinite number of times with a cooldown between uses. Effects range from providing periodic healing to status resistance, even up to stealth effects and damage negation.

>Due to the removal of loading screens between zones, maps are about 2-2.5x the size of previous titles.

>Each map now has multiple base camps, which can be freely teleported to at any time when not in combat.

>Base camps allow the player to restock on all items freely throughout the hunt, as well as change out gear wholesale, including any items on cooldown. Players can eat multiple times per hunt at base camps as well.

>Bowguns can now be fired and items used "on the move." For instance, Potions no longer require the player to stand still, and with a slight loss of speed the players can even run while drinking. As a caveat, healing is no longer instant, and occurs throughout the duration of the drinking part of the animation.

>Whetstones, Bug Nets, and Pickaxes are no longer consumable items, instead simply being infinite use.

>Combinations can be "preprogrammed" to run automatically as items are gathered.

>Areas now contain environmental traps that can restrain monsters or knock them into other areas. Some of these can affect the player as well.

>Regardless of other gear, all players now have a "Slinger" to fire off items that were previously thrown as projectiles, as well as to interact with the environment as a grappling hook for travel or to utilize environmental traps.

>Some monsters will ignore the players entirely until attacked, and monsters will at times ignore the players even mid-battle in favor of entering short interactive cutscenes where they battle other monsters, dealing large amounts of damage to them and possibly incapacitating them.

Copypaste from prior thread, thank you for your hard work anon

Did some research on Tempered Monsters in MHW

And collected them in this post for easy digestion.

What is a tempered monster?

Tempered monsters are the endgame/postgame monsters in MHW.

They are just like the regular monsters, but have increased attack power (enough to one shot geared hunters with certain attacks.)

Tempered monsters also have a purple outline in their icon and leave blue tracks.

Investigations with tempered monsters also have purple reward boxes.

Categorically the tempered monsters fall into 3 groups:

>1st tier, HR 13+.

Pukei-Pukei

Barroth

Jyuratodus

Tobi-Kadachi

Radobaan

Paolumu

Rathian

Anjanath

>2nd tier, HR 30+

Rathalos (Might be tier 1, could not confirm)

A.Rathalos

P.Rathian

Diablos

B.Diablos

Odogaron

Legiana

Bazelgeuse

Lavasioth

Uragaan

>3rd tier, HR 50+

Nergigantte

Teostra

Kushala Daora

Vaal Hazak

Kirin

Higher the tier, the better the rewards.

Note: the highest rarity drops are exclusive to the 3rd tier.

Where to fight them?

Tempered monsters are primarily investigation only, there are also few quests that pit you against tempered monsters.

Tempered monster investigations are generally unlocked by gathering tempered tracks in expeditions. (These tracks seem to always spawn in the same spots)

You can also them the same way as normal investigations when hunting tempered monsters. (break parts, gather tracks) But the chance is very low.

They are also found under Investigations section when responding to S.O.S.

Why fight them?

Tempered monsters drop streamstones in rewards and tempered monster investigations reward either streamstones or feystones.

Streamstones are used to augment Armor. They also come in different rarities.

Streamstones can also be used at the melding pot to create new random decorations out of the old ones.

You can also rarely get "warrior's streamstone" from 2nd tier upwards, they come in different types like Axe (Switch Axe & Charge Blade), Ranged (Bowgun's & Bow), etc, and can be used to augment the corresponding weapon types.

Warrior's streamstones also have a rare version called "hero's streamstone" needed for augmenting Tier 8 weapons.

Note: that lower rarity armor require lower rarity streamstones to augment and lower rarity weapons have more augment slots.

Feystones turn into decorations when identified, and come in several different rarities.

This is the only real way of getting rare decorations, and the fastest way of getting decorations in general.

There are decorations for at least some of the set bonuses present in the game. (Bonus charge level for bow, Extra damage on non elemental weapons, etc).

Augmenting quick and dirty

Weapons can be Augmented following ways:

Increased attack (+5 raw)

Increased affinity (+10%)

Bonus defense (+10)

Extra slots (potentially upgrade existing slot)

Heal on attack

Note: Numbers can potentially vary depending on weapon type.

Rarity 8 weapons have 1 augment slot, Rarity 7 has 2 and Rarity 6 has 3.

Each augment also requires different plates and gems for different monsters.

Note: A weapon must be at the end of it's upgrade path to be augmented.

>>14394753

Arenas have always been kind of ass in that way since they're pretty much entirely balanced around having a second player.

>>14394739

Some good, a lot bad… man, torn if I wanna go into this release.

>>14394790

I played a fair bit of it, writing up my thoughts on it as we speak, but short version? I'd skip it. Even if it gets a G version later, the bulk of the game is just dull, and it would take a major overhaul for G Rank to be worth slogging through Low and High for it.

Reminder that MH3U was the best game. MH4U was the last good game. MHXX was straight trash. MHW isn't even the same franchise.

>>14394753

git gud

>>14394875

Show me your 133t 5K111S anon.

>>14394895

I'll take a serving of #4

thanks

>want to replay 3U

>remember the fucking charm table bullshit

Who the fuck thought that was a good idea?

>>14395182

>a few minutes of prep work

>"you just have restart your game multiple from the beginning a slog through the intro shit each time to check if you aren't locked into a complete trash charm table! It's not a bullshit it's a feature!™"

Nah fuck off and fuck anyone who defends that objectively retarded decision. At least they fixed it in 4U where the table changes each time you load your game up instead of permanently locking you in.

>>14395203

It's not pure RNG though, you can get a guaranteed table depending on your clock, look it up.

What's really bullshit is the tutorial 3U has

>>14395203

You'd only have to do it once if you aren't a retard.

I think it might be asking too much of you, though.

>>14394895

>species

You're not very smart.

>>14394753

Filter search by arena and you can get easy a-ranks with a second person assuming you aren't a retard.

>>14395214

When did they figure that time bullshit out? Last time I played MH3U the only way to figure out the table was with the fishing boats

Just finishing off getting all the kill related guild card titles, ingredients and quests done, got the plat ages ago and have done just about all there is to do in worlds and I have to say the end game is just terrible, tempered elder dragons just aren't that hard (it takes longer to get the investigations than to do them great design)

There are a lot of small issues that could be fixed easily but I doubt they will do it, to name a few quick fixes they could implement:

>give you the option to return to gathering hub.

>let you spend resource points on investigations.

>make it so monsters don't think you are trying to cheese them when they are in a corridor area which results in half the early game shit sprinting away from you as soon as you find it, the early rathalos quest legit takes longer than any quest in the game because of this.

>add more decorations to the meld list so I can actually spend my 160k+ resource points on something worth while.

Still enjoying playing it though.

A few weeks ago some Anon posted a PSN code for World. Upon claiming it, I figured I should at least report back with my experience on it once I'd gotten a decent ways in. As of this writing, I've defeated Nergigante. For the record, I've played purely solo, and while the system itself is connected to the Net to get the patches, I don't have Plus so I haven't signed in to PSN, so I can't speak on any of the online content.

THE GOOD

>Speedier gathering is great, one of the very few points where streamlining it worked out better. I've barely used the shop at all except to stock up on things like Trap Tools.

>Being able to see how and where weapons will split in development paths is nice.

>Item stacks in the box breaking the 99 limit is a welcome change, especially for Gunners who want to keep a stockpile of ammo.

>Auto-combine only works when gathering shit, not replacing shit as you use it, so it's a nice QoL upgrade rather than the "get out of jail free" on Potions and ammo combinations I thought it was going to be.

>Stamina is not infinite, they just make the HP and Stamina bars "minimize" when out of combat and not holding L1 to move your menus around.

>Investigations are an improvement over Guild Quests. While the extra conditions it tried to slap on to make the quests more challenging like limiting you to only one online helper or cutting the clock down to 30/15 minutes didn't really matter so much in practice, the idea itself isn't bad, they just need to come up with more meaningful conditions.

>Letting lower grade Armor Spheres still serve a purpose at reduced efficacy. Goodness knows how many leftover lower grade Armor Spheres I always end up with.

>Being able to use the net to gather tons of fish at once. Fishing has always been a terrible part of games in general, and one of the worst parts of Monster Hunter.

THE BAD

>Too easy. I'm hardly any good at Monster Hunter, but I didn't cart at all until I fought Kirin, and that was only because I had gotten careless and forgot that my armor might as well have been water for how weak the electric resistance was. Returning monsters especially get fucked - the aforementioned Kirin only gets his trademark hard as diamonds coat when enraged, and his lightning is way more telegraphed and leaves him far more open even for melee, while other returners like the Raths and Barroth just feel slower and lacking in actually threatening moves. Nergigante was a step up in terms of damage, but his moves were still pretty telegraphed and even as a Gunner it wasn't an instant kill the one time he hit me with his big charge.

>Being able to use the Item Box to restock at anytime. Being able to drop off shit you gathered is a good idea, but we already had the delivery barrel cat in P3rd for that.

>Simplified combinations. They're not even really combinations half the time anymore, just "conversions." They also can't fail.

>High Rank quests do at least occasionally drop you off in the wrong place, but I've never seen them drop you in a situation where there's monsters and thus you can't teleport out. This is especially blatant with the story relevant quests where they want to make sure you walk into the cut scene on your own, and thus you won't ever just start face to face with the target unless the quest is specifically scripted to be that way like with Pink Rathian.

>Too much RNG. Of all the things to do, they make Talismans forgeable, but Decorations RNG, and Decorations are the things you equip multiple of at once.

>No pause button. This is especially baffling now that we're on a non-portable system that doesn't have a one button/switch suspend state or just let you put it to sleep by closing the shell.

>The unskippable cut scenes need to fuck off. This isn't new, as the series has always had them, and 4 especially was bad about them before, but jesus christ World's are constant and nonstop. Shit is simply indefensible.

>Loading times are fucking awful. Even running the PSP games off the UMD rather than the stick wasn't this bad. Removing in-quest load times is nice and all, but with the new system you spend more time in loading screens total than you ever did in the main games. It's especially egregious because the default is to just dump you back in the area again after a quest rather than send you back to base, so if you forget to hit the stick or accidentally rehit it, you have to sit through that extra minute of loading screen to head home.

>Mobility with eating/drinking items and firing Bowguns is absolutely overpowered. Even with the slightly increased animation time on potions, most monsters give you plenty of time to heal while holding completely still, even in High Rank.

>Maps are bloated as hell, especially the giant tree stage. The verticality especially is just obnoxious. It doesn't make the game any more varied either, you're still fighting any given monster in a handful of arenas for it, it just means it takes longer to chase them across the map when they inevitably bolt after taking a little damage.

>Environmental traps. While they're not nearly as omnipresent as early footage suggested, they're still quite plentiful and just as potent as you'd think, and while simply running over most of them won't cause them to activate, both player and monster attacks do trigger shit like the status frogs, so they can absolutely get themselves fucked over, or even heal you by hitting the heal bugs near you so you get caught in the heal cloud. To be fair, they could also get you caught in a negative status frog cloud, but I've had that happen all of never, and I'm certain the AI doesn't aim for that.

>Monsters attacking each other. Even aside from the scripted shit they will regularly break off from focusing on you even while you're actively damaging them to turn on the other monster.

>The new armor system. I don't even know where to start here, as other than the aforementioned bit about how Armor Spheres work now I hate pretty much everything about it. Getting Skills to activate without any work at all is bad enough, but then you get to High Rank and have the Alpha/Beta split, which sounds promising and all… except it's literally just "sacrifice a skill or two for an extra/bigger Decoration slot or two." No difference in stats granted or materials required either, so it basically comes down to "is the Skill the Beta version loses any good," so it's not really a split in options so much as a "one of these is objectively better than the other"

>The use of the tracking bullshit to justify drawing out the progression of High Rank. Once you enter High Rank anytime they want you to go after a new monster like Pink Rathian or Nergigante, you have to go out on random quests/explorations just to find randomly placed tracks and shit of the monster until you gather enough that the game decides to give you the quest to go fight it. The three Elders after Nerg all have separate ones for themselves too. It's obnoxious and probably the truest example of grinding the series has ever had.

>Setting traps is so ridiculously fast. Seriously, you can actually use them as weapons in combat to interrupt monster actions, it's ludicrous.

THE UGLY (or stuff that irks me but isn't as important as the above)

>Shit's too fucking small. For all the complaints about small screens before, I find I'm just about as close to the TV as I was to my 3DS and PSP if I want to tell what the fuck I just picked up or what's on the map or anything that isn't the actual fighting with the monster.

>The selections in the weapon upgrade interface not "clicking" from icon to icon with movement, and instead having a free floating "cursor" style of movement. I don't know if this is because of the PC port they're working on or what, but it's fucking awful.

>Visuals are awful, and that glowing green crap only makes it worse for the environment. The lack of blood or anything other than some rocks flying off on hits for monsters is bizarre, and half the time I'm not sure if my hits are connecting or not. Characters are hideous; even aside from the much-maligned receptionist "girl" I find myself baffled by the fact that someone thought bringing in Donte was a good idea. Armor designs are at least competent, but weapon designs were so phoned in it hurts. Music is also pretty bad with one or two exceptions, which exceptionally stands out after the great monster themes in XX. Overall, this is the worst looking and sounding mainline Monster Hunter title ever.

>The fact that when you spawn into the main base there isn't a teleport point right where you start. The bounty reporter and farm being close at hand is good, but it's irritating having to run across the whole of the first floor to make it to the teleporter for the kitchen or smithy.

>Investigation clutter is a nuisance. Being able to filter and mass delete them would've been nice.

>Control changes. R1 being changed into a sheathing command throws off a lot of the moveset in general, and then the desire to put shit onto L2 and R2 means you have simply silly shit like Bowgun firing being moved from Circle to R2 and aiming going to L2, and the weird rearrangement of Insect Glaive's moveset. Swapping Confirm and Cancel buttons is something I know a lot of Western releases of Sony games do, including Freedom Unite, but that doesn't make it any less irritating. Also, we really need to stop putting things on L3 and R3, those aren't buttons and should not be treated as such. Make the stupid "Share" button pull it's weight instead of just being a squatter taking up prime controller real estate.

>>14395242

>implying girls can't impregnate girls by holding hands

I think most fans' core problem with World is it lacks any sense of commitment at all. Whether or not you found the games difficult before, you absolutely had to pay attention to them to succeed. The obvious example of a change here is being able to move while using items or shooting, but it's quite a bit more universal than that. To learn a monster's weak points, you had to observe what effects your attacks had on it, be it blood spurts, screen shaking, or bouncing off. Now, blood spurts are gone and you're either using damage numbers or just consulting the in-game wiki. Similarly, you no longer need to keep any of those things the wiki records in mind, like what drops what or what parts are breakable/severable. Forgot to bring some key items? Just duck back into the tent and grab them. Forget to eat? The table's right there. Finding the weapon you upgraded into isn't what you want after a few hunts, or unlocked a new one you want to make instead? Just push it backwards and even get the parts refunded. Quest too hard to take on alone? Summon some other players. Bad position to start your Greatsword charge in? Tackle out of it, and have insane damage reduction and super armor with that. I'm feeling this even in otherwise positive changes, like item gathering no longer making you stop and gather outside of the account items, or seemingly unrelated changes, like the reworking of the armor system where generally you're better off clown suiting and just going piece by piece rather than having to decide on a set and work towards getting it completed to get most if not all of the Skills going. The only thing that seems to really demand any sort of commitment on the part of the player is the game auto-saving after starting an Investigation to use up one of it's uses in case they rage-quit, but with how many dozens of them the game shits on you constantly (and it's not like ones with gold-tier rewards are rare by any means) this is hardly a key factor. This is what I think strikes at the heart of so many of the changes and why they rub longtime fans the wrong way even if they can't quite articulate it.

To me, the biggest thing is the loss of any tension. On top of everything being so much mind-numbingly easier than even XX was, the fact that not only can you run back to the base camp at just about any time to replenish your potions (including Max Potions, which is just beyond belief) but that every map is overflowing with easy to loot Herb and Honey to mix up Mega Potions at any moment (with zero chance of failure, no Books of Combo required) which you can drink while running around, plus with little danger of running out of max stamina between the much longer time it takes for the cap to decrease, eating at camp, and the stamina bugs strewn about just makes it lack any possibility that you might find yourself in a truly fucked position. Even the one map that has (a small number of) hot spots has a whole area just overflowing with mushrooms to brew Cool Drinks. And of course, infinite Whetstones. You're never going to get screwed over by your own lack of preparation or short-sightedness, and you're certainly never going to have the sort of desperate struggle where you've run down to the wire, carted twice with every healing/support item exhausted including the ones you found by gathering on the map, bashing away at the Tigrex who you KNOW is just hanging on by a few HP with a weapon at red sharpness as you desperately try to bring him down, knowing that win or lose you are going to collapse from the sheer rush afterward as the adrenaline that had been pumping through you fades, breathless at just how amazing a fight you just had.

In conclusion, I just can't suggest this game to Monster Hunter fans. Taken purely in a vacuum, it's an alright action game, and could easily have been a huge step up for other franchises - if this had been, say, Elder Scrolls 6, I could easily celebrate it as a huge improvement and step up for that series. As Monster Hunter 5, however, it's simply lacking in just about every meaningful way. Everything that makes Monster Hunter good to me is at best weakened and at worst completely gone. It's not out of the blue entirely, as a lot of what's bad about it has been creeping into the franchise for a while, but I've never felt this huge a loss all at once with any prior title. Maybe G Rank will salvage it; I hope it will. As is, World is just really boring, and I don't feel any particular joy in the thought of running around playing tag with randomly generated "clues" to be given permission to play the game any further.

>>14395406

>but I've never seen them drop you in a situation where there's monsters and thus you can't teleport out.g

It can happen. I've seen footae of a guy getting dropped right in front of a diablos.

>>14395353

>Still enjoying playing it though.

I'm at the kill 3 elder dragons part and getting really bored of it. Hope I'm near the end of this game so I can delete it and move on. It was playable, but I find myself liking the older games a lot more.

>>14395412

>As is, World is just really boring

Had similar thoughts. Thanks for the write up anon.

>>14395444

Yeah I've landed on a few large monsters too. Of course they don't spot you right away so I could easily run off and teleport to camp.

>>14395465

you can see the whole tree at any time, the legit only use for it is if you accidentally go too far in a tree and want to go back and even then you can't roll back once you've maxed it so it's not as disgusting as it sounds.

>>14395444

Fair enough, I would've assumed it'd be in the realm of possibility with three large monsters wandering the map at any given point, but it simply never happened any of the very few times I didn't start at the base camp anyway.

>>14395452

My pleasure, it gives me a bit of catharsis, and hopefully gives Anons who are on the fence valuable insight.

>>14395465

It is.

>>14395490

For an experienced player, yeah, but I get the feeling it's for the newbie players who don't want to feel like they "wasted" things on an upgrade they end up not liking

>>14395498

>for the newbie players who don't want to feel like they "wasted" things on an upgrade they end up not liking

Or it just saves them the time they'd spend looking it up online.

>>14395568

>you can revert anything

You can't. You can revert almost all of the low tier stuff, but there are several points you can't go back from and the max tier weapons are all locked in.

>>14395465

Outside of Low Rank I didn't think that was useful at all. Too many opportunities to permanently upgrade things in high rank.

>>14395417

Part of me feels like it's a little unfair to compare it to XX when it would be better to compare it to another generation-starting game like Tri or 4. Personally, I can't speak for 4 because my DS broke before I could finish it. Largely do not disagree about items though, and I feel like the SOS flare has done more harm than good upon reflecting about it. Some of the points feel like "old people problems" though. Like, there was some inconvenience that was removed, but now it's actually missed, something like that. It's a bit late.

>>14395762

>Part of me feels like it's a little unfair to compare it to XX when it would be better to compare it to another generation-starting game like Tri or 4.

I just meant in terms of it being easier than even the game that is widely considered the easiest in the franchise due to just how fucking broken Brave Style was. I would definitely say it's easier than X or 4 as well haven't played Tri though so can't speak on it.

>Some of the points feel like "old people problems" though. Like, there was some inconvenience that was removed, but now it's actually missed, something like that. It's a bit late.

Perhaps, but this wasn't meant to be an objective list so much as how I personally felt playing it and I probably fall under the "old people" category. Someone else already did a much better job than I could making an objective list of what World did.

>>14395805

I figured it out, apparently it doesnt work on the sony driver for MHFU, used inferno.

>>14395809

because I'm a realist

Theyd have to make a spider web themed environment, and since they're going for a lot of vertical space as well were talking about a pretty massive endeavor for only nercy/shrouded

among that they'd also have to add gypceros because that's its main prey, and giver her unique animations for the monster fights that would probably differ if it has access to a web or not

not to mention unlike a lot of the monsters she has to have her own unique 8 legged rig that would need to be worked on since they cant recycle any skeletons for her

with how mhw looks now i doubt Nercy will show up anytime soon, especially once the mh hype dies down and its not viable investing that much time into a unique monster

>>14395885

and thats the last time I take your questions seriously

>>14395894

Wait tigrex isnt in world? I totally thought it would be a launch monster

>super saiyan rajang

fuck thanks for the reminder i gotta nut up and fight that guy in 4u

I want them to suffer plesioth's terrible hitboxes

>>14395927

Isn't that dead wyvern a legiana?

>>14395225

This. What people fail to understand about charm tables is that people talking about them are ONLY talking about the tippy top 0.1% absolute perfect stats god charms. The other 99.9% of possible charms in the table are not considered at all. Yeah, it's still kind of shitty, but at least you only have to do the clock setting thing once when you make your save and then that's it.

>>14395203

Are you retarded? That's not what you do at all. You set you clock to a specific time and date, watch a timer for x minues and y seconds until the exact time that correlates with your desired table, and hit the New Game button. It's practically retard proof RNG manipulation. Please tell me you weren't some sort of drooling idiot that just randomly kept making new games and using Athena's Fish Finder without actually understanding the steps to getting the charm table you want.

>>14396055

Release ver. World has a very large focus on the new monsters it adds, for better or worse, with very few returning monsters. Of the returning monsters, most are iconic ones from gen 2 and back. Only Barroth and Uragaan are from later gens, and they seem there just to round out the monster selection, rather than for nostalgia points. If having an update like the Jho one isn't a one time deal, they're probably going to be bringing back more old monsters in future updates.

>>14397513

>very few returning monsters

>12/30, or 40% of the monsters in the game at launch are returning monsters

>>14395789

>World has no Nerscylla hunting and skinning Gypceros/Khezu

smh

Does XX have several dozen updates, or is something fucking up on my end? I keep trying to update the game, but it keeps popping up, saying there's another update available, after it's done.

>>14397590

I wasn't counting sub-species, which make up 25% of the old monsters. And, a good portion of returning monsters are elder dragons, which are end-game only. That leaves six old monsters, with their sub-species, that you're allowed to fight before you get to end-game. World just has a very small roster.

Does anyone know how nip fans rate World? I imagine they'd absolutely hate the way online works now.

>It's not on a handheld, so you can't meet up and play with friends.

>No comfy hub, or at least the game gives you no reason to go there.

>SOS system makes joining a friend's hunt way more complicated than it has any right to be.

The SOS system is an abject failure. It maybe helps new players, but killed the normal online community in the process.

>>14395251

I recall it being a thing maybe a month or so after release. I never bothered with farming charms tho i just used action replay on them because fuck that level of rng.

>>14397691

>I wasn't counting sub-species

OK, so 9/27 monsters are returning, that's 1/3 of the game's monsters still.

>And, a good portion of returning monsters are elder dragons, which are end-game only.

Kirin's Low Rank, but yeah Daora and Teo are High Rank.

>>14397706

My impression is that older fans are passing on it, with most of the people buying into it being at the oldest people who jumped in on 4th gen, and many being completely new.

>>14397691

>Does XX have several dozen updates, or is something fucking up on my end?

your end most likely

if you're using a cfw 3ds make sure youre downloading the same patch for the games regions. updating through the home screen downloads the patch for the console's region, freeshop will give you the one for the games region and ciangel will let you specify

>>14397744

I can't seem to find the update data on freeshop, which is where I got the game in the first place.

>>14395409

>it's irritating having to run across the whole of the first floor to make it to the teleporter for the kitchen or smithy

Bring up the (world)map and pick Astera, then choose from the list of destinations there to travel directly to the Smithy/Canteen/Gathering Hub instead of walking the length of the Tradeyard

>>14397764

try using fbi's qr to download the specific update for the region your game is from the titlekey site

if that doesnt work

backup your save if you have one and re-download it

>>14397811

Do you know the serial for the update? I'm having trouble finding it on the titlekey site.

>>14397848

I don't know if this breaks the translation or something, but by far the easiest way is to just download it off of freeshop's built in list directly instead of using a titlekey or QR. The updates will come automatically and if they're not there then you just need to go to the intsalled games tab and hit the updates button for XX

Hello, it's Garuda again, here with more clips.

>>14397910

This time with hooktube too

https://hooktu.be/Ki16vhNaTWw

https://hooktu.be/zwDBTgzOTZc

https://hooktu.be/9fEkF2Pq1so

>>14397917

>>14397917

broken link, I assume you tried to embed both youtube and hooktube videos, which you can't.

>>14397921

>>14397933

Fucked it up

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=9fEkF2Pq1so

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=zwDBTgzOTZc

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=Ki16vhNaTWw

>>14397848

seriously man? its just wilful ignorance at this point.

there's a fucking search bar and a column that tells you if its a game, dlc, or a patch

>>14398186

Khezu has the best theme song.

>>14397706

>SOS system makes joining a friend's hunt way more complicated than it has any right to be.

It's not for hunting with friends, if you wanted to hunt with friends you would do what you did before and make a lobby, SOS is for calling indiscriminate help that will arrive late, scale the monster up 2.6 times and cart to absolutely nothing.

>>14398210

t. John Cage

>>14398186

Rathalos is funny in the sense that he has a theme song, but his theme song is the generic forest area music from Gen 1, in every game I played with him he just uses the area fight music despite having his "own" theme.

Have fun anon, may his globe be at home and the fight won't draw out too long.

>>14398143

If it isn't rasta my boy :^)

We gotta play some more but now i kinda stopped

>>14398266

Monster theme songs play when a monster sees you Khezu's blind.

>>14398253

>>>/cuckchan/

>>14398282

Saved that from here, boy.

>>14398253

>lance

>not using the charge blade to rake on extra damage with guard points during roars and body lightning

>not using those guard points to counter with finishers

>>14398344

Gore just has shit sight, read the lore.

>>14398406

You sound like a faggot.

>>14395773

Yeah, I can't deny how easy it is. With what I remember of Tri, right now I think World monsters tend to hit harder, but their attacks are also much slower or telegraphed. I'll cite rathian/rathalos' tail sweeps, for instance.

It also feels to me like stun is more of an issue in fights, especially with Teostra. I had to fight Barroth a billion times in Tri because I started with the Switch Axe and I wanted the first thing that took me off the Bone Axe path. It was awful, but what I remember is that Barroth has to get at least three or four good charges on me before the stun animation happened, and here, I think I'd expect to get stunned in two good hits.

Additionally, as a thought I think it would have been nice if they actually did have an in-game wiki instead of the guidebooks they have. It would have been neat in before games to see things like "You can poison off Daora's wind barrier" or "Stay away from Rathalos' front because he has a fast fireball attack." That sort of deal.

I saw that earlier list and I pretty much agree with everything on there except for some of the irks. I'd probably express more horror towards the deco system though.

>>14398514

Is that in MHFU or 4? Hadn't played 4 and I broke my PSP too before I got very far in FU as well.

About the rathalos thing, I mean realistically speaking, I wouldn't feel very safe if my being was within a mile of a rathalos, or even something like a giadrome, but >>14398582 pretty much said what I eventually figured. I just specifically avoided being in Rathalos' front after a while because while it's nice to be able to do more damage, being there meant being exposed to an attack that I found very hard to evade. It was a good lesson in positioning.

>>14398619

Thanks. I wanted some inspiration for my own GS escapades in FU.

Is there a way to play the psp games with other fags on an emulator?

>>14399001

yes

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FAeZ83cX7HCiyNvRYGvlzYmOMVEXDxRMkQp5HM5YlG4/pub

http://forums.ppsspp.org/showthread.php?tid=5476

This shit should be in OP with the frequency at which this question is asked.

>>14397614

It wouldn't be so bad if they also didn't have 4 models total for each weapon, with only minor gluejobs here and there.

>>14399001

There is but I've never done it myself so don't know the steps, try looking though the ppsspp fourms might be a good tutorial to use.

https://forums.ppsspp.org/forumdisplay.php?fid=34

>>14397785

That doesn't work. You can use it to go to the Gathering Area or the Training Area, I suppose since those are on different loading screens, but it doesn't let you do that to go the Factory Area.

>>14398480

>what I remember is that Barroth has to get at least three or four good charges on me before the stun animation happened, and here, I think I'd expect to get stunned in two good hits.

Can't speak on Tri specifically to be fair, but in the series in general it's less often about the total number of hits in general and more about the time in between them - stun decreases over time like any other status value, so if you get hit twice in a row in most of the main series games by anything reasonably serious (i.e. not just the sliver of damage from a monster stepping on you while turning or the like) you're likely to get stunned. Now, I presume the same holds true in World judging from how you described it, but I don't recall ever actually getting stunned, so I can't say for sure.

>Additionally, as a thought I think it would have been nice if they actually did have an in-game wiki instead of the guidebooks they have.

Personally I'd have been onboard with making it a wiki in the sense of editing - give the player a book with the outline of the monster and the different hit zones, and let them fill it in with what areas they think take more or less damage, and noting what drops they get from carves, caps, breaks, etc. If you want to push the online thing too, make it even more like a wiki and let players set permissions on their notes so that they can either allow anyone, only friends, or no one to edit their own work, or let them do a "compare notes" feature where they can look at how their books differ from their friends. That would've been a much better way to get into the whole "simulating being a Hunter" aspect than the tracking mechanic was.

>I saw that earlier list and I pretty much agree with everything on there except for some of the irks. I'd probably express more horror towards the deco system though.

It is pretty awful, but Decorations happen at High Rank, and by that point I think I'd gotten jaded to how bad the game was, and as bad as RNG shit is it's a problem the series has had since Talismans got introduced, and not quite so consistent with the bigger issues I see in the game as detailed at the end.

>>14399028

As in not just in this thread, but on the board as a whole? Not surprised, pretty standard behavior for (((those folks)))

>>14399001

Yes

You can also do it on the vita

Shame only that stream anon seems to play with any frequency

>>14399044

Yes, pure cohencidence,

>>14399069

Actually from the sound of things, at least here most of the Anons are playing 4U at the moment.

>>14399119

How is the new streaming site anyhow? Easy to use? Any downsides?

>>14399134

easy - yes

downsides - audio is always a couple of milliseconds behind and I'm getting a creepy furry vibe from the whole site, but I might be just me

>>14397864

Yeah, I just installed the updated fork of freeshop yesterday, so the layout was alien to me, and I didn't realize what the installed games list actually was. I got it all figured out, now.

>>14398118

>there's a fucking search bar and a column that tells you if its a game, dlc, or a patch

You think I didn't use those? I even filtered for JP region and patches only. The issue is that there is no patch with "MHXX", or even just "XX", in the title, like the game, and I can't read enough moon to figure out which patch belongs to the game. I tried one patch with "1.2.0" in the title, since that's the latest version of MHXX, but it didn't change anything, which is why I then asked for the serial number, to make sure I had the right patch selected.

>>14399142

Hm, the latter would be bad for the community as a whole, but if the only other problem is a very slight audio lag, that might not be so bad. Been looking for a way to stream shit since a friend has yet to see, of all things, Kung Pow.

>>14399149

>I can't read enough moon to figure out which patch belongs to the game

Try searching ダブルクロス

>>14397614

Did World have any new skeletons at all? Every monster I'm aware of is a copy of an existing skeleton. Zorah Magdoros is the only one I thought had a unique one, but I've seen some people claim it's actually Lao's skeleton under all that rock. Tri introduced the Leviathan skeletons and Brute Wyvern skeletons though I'm convinced Lagiacrus's skeleton is just Fatalis's with the wings cut off, World only maybe introduced Zorah's, if it's actually new.

>>14399149

FBI gives info on the games serial, and title ID

looking up the last ~6 numbers of the ID show that game's suite of downloads

also looking it up in japanese like this anon >>14399160 said is usually an option for jp games

>>14399043

That's how I understood status worked, yeah. I should've clarified that when I first fought Barroth he was getting multiple charges in, practically one after another, so that's how I got stunned. I might test stun thresholds in Tri vs World if I can find my Wii again.

I was thinking something along those lines for that guidebook suggestion too. Etrian Odyssey has something a lot like that where you have to draw your own maps, and I feel like it serves the purpose of making players think and reflect more about how to take on levels.

I'm not entirely bothered by the presence of the guidebook but I feel like people who would need the guidebook, as in the information there would otherwise simply be lost to them, are not using their brains enough to play Monster Hunter properly, and they should be encouraged to think and strategize more. Having a more writable guide book serves as a suggestion that some measure of knowledge is supposed to be taken out of each fight. Further, it's more useful in that a larger range of information is potentially available. You can write about weaknesses in there, but there's room for more nuanced and specific suggestions too, and it wouldn't spoonfeed like the monster journal currently does.

>>14399327

That skull is from a dragon mutated by the Chaos flame and killed by Havel in the Age of Fire.

>>14399327

Xeno's skeleton looks like Gore Magala or Valfalk to me.

>>14399160

>>14399273

As I said, I already got it figured out, once I realized what the installed games tab was.

>>14399349

Really? Where does it say that?

Oh right, that's fan hypothesis.

Replaying MHFU any tips?

Using lance.

>>14399327

The wyverns are yakuza.

>>14394742

>Rathalos (Might be tier 1, could not confirm)

He's tier 2, I have multiple investigations for him

>>14395353

>the end game is just terrible, tempered elder dragons just aren't that hard (it takes longer to get the investigations than to do them great design)

this so much, fuck the investigation system. fuck MHW in general, even if its fun up until the end game.

>>14397869

>>14394905

What did he mean by this?

>>14399327

>imply that dragons and men share the same origin, but never directly state it. From Pokemon to Dark Souls

Fuck off Vaati, none of that exists.

>>14399871

>nearly 130 hours

>HR 29

>>14399871

yup

>>14399846

Fucking meta cancer in 4U and Gen/XX was terrible.

>4U

>honed blade and challenger +2 everywhere

>XX

>crit and crit boost everywhere

Just wait for the MHW quick kill videos with rap dubbed over.

>>14399846

Calm down, mate

I find I'm using more honey for mega potions than I can produce from the farm with maxed out honey production, do I just need to git gud and not be getting hit so much or should I be doing more gathering quests/epic quests to get honey/mega potions?

>>14399979

>World regresses the series more than even XX did

>fucking regressive hipsters amirite!?

Fuck off.

>>14400014

git gud at preparing better, git gud at gathering more, git gud at stocking materials you need, git gud at item management, git gud at using ALL of the systems available to you, and git fucking gud at paying goddamn attention to what's going on around you. Even if you use 10 mega potions per hunt (which is OBSCENE unless you are going in naked) you can easily produce at least 24 per quest if you're producing honey exclusively.

Not getting hit is a generally good idea as well, though.

>>14400031

You want a past game, play a fucking past game. I'm sorry new game isn't what you wanted, but past game is always there.

>>14399979

Where did you get "I watch streamers" out of "faggots will likely start copying popular streamers"

>>14399907

Do you expect people to only wear armor for looks? There are skills that are objectively the best for certain weapons. I wish people would get more creative and personal with their sets since I think it's fun, but there often isn't much room for variation when going for certain skills unless you have god charms.

>>14399585

Guard or evade and poke a lot.

>>14400039

24 per quest? How? My farm is barely producing 5-6 per quest.

I've been using purely regular potions until I hit nekot's quests and I've hit the point where a single hit will drop my health to where I need a mega potion so now I'm just burning through the honey that I have saved up.

>>14400055

The problem is that some skills are just that much better. Some skills are too fucking good. Honed blade should give less attack. Crit was too easy to stack for crit boost's effectiveness etc.

>>14400039

I want a new game, not garbage.

>>14400066

>I want a new game, not garbage.

You're not getting one. All the good monster hunter games that WILL ever be made HAVE been made, and they're there for you to play. Play them.

New things are always garbage. That's just how things work.

>>14400039

He's talking about the FU farm, not the World tree.

>>14400056

6 is the most you'll get from the hive.

>>14400083

I'd still argue more than 5 mega potions is too damn much.

Don't over commit. Take it easy and be careful, you have 50 minutes to kill the monster. MH is not a speedrunner game.

>>14400075

>You're not getting one. All the good monster hunter games that WILL ever be made HAVE been made

So you admit that World is regressive?

>>14400056

You could do some easier quests in between serious hunts to build up more honey, upgrade your defense more, or just get hit less.

>>14400066

Too good, maybe, but they are often later game skills so it makes some sense they would be really good since you need to work a lot for them. Like in FU you have to suffer through White fucking Fatalis to get honed blade, so you certainly earn it. The crit shit in cross was pretty silly though, like most of the game.

>>14399299

>Etrian Odyssey has something a lot like that where you have to draw your own maps, and I feel like it serves the purpose of making players think and reflect more about how to take on levels.

I love that series for that, brings back a lot of fond memories of tabletop games with maps drawn out on graph paper.

>I'm not entirely bothered by the presence of the guidebook but I feel like people who would need the guidebook, as in the information there would otherwise simply be lost to them, are not using their brains enough to play Monster Hunter properly, and they should be encouraged to think and strategize more. Having a more writable guide book serves as a suggestion that some measure of knowledge is supposed to be taken out of each fight. Further, it's more useful in that a larger range of information is potentially available. You can write about weaknesses in there, but there's room for more nuanced and specific suggestions too, and it wouldn't spoonfeed like the monster journal currently does.

Pretty much exactly this. I remember some trying to argue that it replaces things like Ping's Dex and Kiranico, but it really doesn't since anyone who needs the sort of exact information those give is going to find the in-game version worthless, and as we've established if the goal was to teach new players how to play MonHun, it would've required more input on the player's input. As is, it is very much about reducing the need to commit to the game, because the people they wanted to sell World to don't care enough about video games to learn to play them.

>>14399327

>never directly state it

>Pokemon

Didn't Pokemon 4 outright state that humans and Pokemon were the same thing long ago, to the point they intermarried?

>>14399394

Fair enough, my bad.

>>14399871

Not me. I don't think I'll ever play it again, in fact. Just such an awful game. I didn't even pay anything for it, and I still have buyer's remorse. Also

>paying for the cosmetic DLC

It's like you're TRYING to be as cancerous a human being as possible.

>>14399979

>regress

The fuck are you on about? People play older installments of long running series all the time. Only someone who has a vested interest in people purchasing the newest version of the product would try to attack people liking old games.

>>14400039

>You want a past game, play a fucking past game. I'm sorry new game isn't what you wanted, but past game is always there.

We want new games to live up to the quality of past games, instead of getting worse.

>>14400056

Ah, FU. Yeah, now that you've gotten into High Rank, you're going to start taking a lot more damage. You're going to want to make some High Rank armor soon, since yeah, you're going to be taking tons of damage for a while.

>>14400075

>New things are always garbage

Not necessarily - that's definitely the more common fate, but I can still get excited for every new installment of a particular handful of series.

>>14400114

It's also a very common element of story-telling for the protagonist and antagonist to have something in common or to become similar ("We're not so different, you and I," "Those who hunt monsters become monsters themselves.") It's often because it gives a little more depth to the story rather than just simply being good guy vs. bad guy, but in the context you're talking about, I wonder if that isn't just some sort of common element of the human experience.

>>14400148

>less advanced

Certainly sounds like World.

>>14400190

>replying to this many posts at once

I see a lot of shit I want to reply to.

>simultaneously shilling AND disparaging World

Me? How am I shilling it?

>>14395871

i would be shocked if the first few rounds of monsters that will need new animation skeletons are added arent tigrex or narga. i want to see all the insectoid bosses return but they are certainly going to go for the easier and more iconic monsters to add in.

>>14398619

he has had some pretty good monster hunter world streams too. its a little cringy when autists show up and just beg him to say the thing over and over again though.

>>14400213

>You won't shut the fuck up about it.

By that argument, any mention of it at all is shilling for it. To be sure, there is the adage that "There's no such thing as bad advertising," and to be sure the target audience of World are people who hated Monster Hunter, so MonHun fans hating the newest game is a plus to them. That said, as someone who has suffered through the abject misery of World, I feel I have an obligation to give feedback on it so those who have not played it can know more about it.

>You've posted enough for today, go play some video games.

What makes you think I'm not doing both?

>Tempered Monsters

>They are just like the regular monsters, but have increased attack power

you know they *could* have just made them in permanent rage mode.

just saying

>>14400310

Considering that for Kirin that would've made his skin always as hard as it was in the old games, I think they didn't want to scare away the casuals by doing that.

>>14400310

They enter it more easily in my experience. First time I went against the twin bazels one seemed perma-explosive glow from the start until sleep.

>>14400042

How would you know if they're copying streamers if you don't know what the streamers are doing? Checkmate soyboi.

>>14400321

add?

>>14400331

It's either a painful RNG or wearing 4 pieces of Rathalos set to never bounce, and casual or not that's some fucking bullshit.

>>14400371

I keep on randomly adding you on steam and you keep on ignoring it tbh

>>14400389

who are you and who do you think I am

>>14400404

naz

>>14400371

>It's either a painful RNG or wearing 4 pieces of Rathalos set to never bounce, and casual or not that's some fucking bullshit.

What RNG? You hit the head, you bounce off if you hit the rest. That's how Kirin is supposed to work. Is World your first MonHun or something?

>>14400423

>What RNG?

I mean RNG for the gems that give whatever the fuck the mind's eye skill is called this game.

I wasn't aware Kirin's head didn't bounce, I always just used Mind's Eye or got frustrated by 90% of my attacks bouncing because I've never used KO weapons until World.

>>14400472

I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that if there IS a de facto "best" set of weapons/gear to go with, people WILL flock to it. You can blame it on the wikis, the data miners, the streamers, or whoever you want. It's inevitable, really.

But people who are fine losing out on a <10% damage bonus in favor of something that's more fun and/or aesthetically appealing will always exist too, though we'll be the minority.

>>14400454

>I mean RNG for the gems

Ah yeah, that is bullshit, but then so is the entire skill system in World.

>I wasn't aware Kirin's head didn't bounce, I always just used Mind's Eye or got frustrated by 90% of my attacks bouncing because I've never used KO weapons until World.

Fair enough, though even if you're not using KO weapons, you'd want to aim for the head to break the horn, and because it takes the most damage even aside from bouncing issues.

>>14400483

>But people who are fine losing out on a <10% damage bonus in favor of something that's more fun and/or aesthetically appealing will always exist too, though we'll be the minority.

Pretty much. It's a shame too, people miss out on fun concepts like using the Regios LBG with a set that gives Evasion +3 and Evade Distance for the ultimate in mobile gunning.

>>14400490

>even if you're not using KO weapons, you'd want to aim for the head to break the horn

Yeah but that doesn't mean I've ever been good at aiming in monhun. It's so much easier to actually hit the part I'm aiming for in World than it ever has been before.

>>14400505

>Yeah but that doesn't mean I've ever been good at aiming in monhun.

Fair enough.

>It's so much easier to actually hit the part I'm aiming for in World than it ever has been before.

Considering the monsters are far less active than before, and you can move while firing or even reaim while rapid-firing as a Gunner, that's hardly surprising. Kirin especially in World has a shitton of openings, especially with that line of lightning move where he just holds still and practically begs you to let loose a Level 3 Greatsword to his face.

>>14400518

I've never used guns in MH

>>14400666

I can help you out by telling you to get a better game that's not a slog from start to finish with horrible DLC practices.

Remember how the only good thing XX added was the ability to have a cosmetic set of armor on over your normal set

>>14400920

He's right though, it IS a slog with horrible DLC practices. You'd honestly be better off playing the original on PS2, stick attacking and all.

God damn I had to go through some shit to get a Tri ISO, barely any sites bother having it up, and the one that did made me slog through the worst most malicious ad filled hellhole to get to it, with the download site forcing you to turn off adblock

>>14400935

Them hitboxes doe.

Just be a good fella and suggest 4U or P3rd like everyone else.

>>14401332

Yeah, I'd get Stockholm Syndrome too, if I had to play Monster Hunter like Ape Escape for over two hundred hours. Don't worry, anon.

>>14401301

The original MonHun is a fair bit of a slog in the early portion, but it gets better as you go along, like most MonHuns do. World does not, and that's my point.

>>14401330

Oh I do suggest going with newer stuff - Freedom Unite or Portable 3rd is probably the best for entirely new players, and they along with 3U and 4U are my favorites in the series that I go back to regularly. I'm just saying, World is so bad, I would actually find the original on the PS2 more enjoyable, despite my issues with it.

>>14401343

But world isn't half that bad.

Just kind of dull and uninteresting.

A 7/10.

>>14401341

Stockholm Syndrome is actually what I'd ascribe to the people defending World because of it getting a PC release - PC people have this bizarre sense of loyalty to the platform that baffles me.

>>14401352

It's a competent action game in and of itself, but it is undoubtedly the absolute worst main series Monster Hunter game ever made.

>>14401393

>stand near enemy legs

>combo three stabs

>follow through with shelling/backdodge into another stab set

>three hit combo becomes vortex

>after you've depleted all your shelling, reload, it takes relatively no time

>when the enemy is stuck in its own AI/trapped use wyvern breath to explode them for massive damage

>do this on the head to break the head pieces real good and get extra soft spot damage

>block when an enemy goes in for a strike

>dodge if you're feeling lucky to get extra stabs

>but seriously just block if an enemy starts charging, they're going to be back and forth and there's nothing you can do about it besides tank it out

If you're playing world then you're going to need this tactic instead

>go near face and tail

>rising slash, overhead, lateral strike combo

>on the overhead press your shelling button after it comes down to release all shelling and continue the combo to do your lateral strike

>after that you can press the attack or shelling button to inject explosions into your foe

>if they attack you can block most damage away

>wyvern breath whenever you're in a good spot right under them and they're turning around or they won't be moving for a while because your team is whacking them

>use shelling to crack hard spots with deflection

>use main combo to slice tail right off

>>14401358

>PC people have this bizarre sense of loyalty to the platform that baffles me.

Every platform has this. No need to try to make console war.

>>14401710

>Every platform has this.

Granted, but for the PC folks it extends in this bizarre way where even though the PC's greatest ability is to emulate other systems, they act like a game getting a native PC release is somehow inherently better, and many even outright disparage the ability to emulate at all. It's supremely confusing.

>>14401802

>most likely runs 60fps and 4k unlike ps4 pro

>otherwise the same game

>somehow not better

I don't understand why it is so hard to accept that PC can run shit well if the games are actually optimized?

You are supremely confusing with your mental gymnastics.

>>14401802

>they act like a game getting a native PC release is somehow inherently better

Because it is. It's the same fucking game except with much more user freedom. Better framerate, resolution and graphics. More control options. You don't have to fucking pay again for online. Usually modding to some degree. The only time when a PC version is not objectively better is when they sabotage it on purpose, and that's like saying that SNES is worse than NES because some retard made a game for both but deliberately fucked up the SNES version. A PC version is just the same game, except with more freedom for the user to use as they want and with better performance. Now fuck off with your console war baiting. Oh, and that PC is objectively a better platform doesn't mean that World is good.

>>14401937

>>14402073

I'm talking about the fact that there are people who, without playing any of the games in the franchise, automatically consider World to be the apex of the franchise solely because it's getting a native PC release, as opposed to every other title in the franchise, including the ones they can quite easily emulate.

>>14402073

What I think Anon means is that some people refuse to play any MH game because they're not on PC (frontier and online not counting), despite being easy to emulate like FU and P3rd, and that since World is coming to PC it's automatically better than the other games by virtue of being the first MH on PC, regardless of its own qualities or the fact that you can play the older games easily via PPSSPP.

>>14402097

>>14402095

Well that makes more sense now.

>>14399902

There is a cap at that there I think, still pretty bad though, that being said I once saw a guild card with someone who had done over 500 LR quests and investigations with like 200 LR barroth kills and next to no actual progression, I mean you can play games however you want but that shit confuses me even now.

>>14402343

Or put a paper bag over her head.

>>14402343

>>14402348

Or just remove her from the game completely with no replacement. Every scene she appears in there is instead just an awkward moment of silence as the camera looks at nothing.

>>14399253

I'm fairly certain Tobi/Odog's skeleton is new, unless they took it from Frontier.

>>14402769

Those REALLY look like trannies.

>>14402788

The 2nd and 4th but the 1st and 3rd don't look bad at all, especially ingame.

>>14402446

I actually love this one. I need this in my life.

>>14402788

What the fuck? Where are you getting that?

>>14402114

Yeah, worded it badly, sorry.

>>14402343

Didn't play Dogma yet. Did it have anything so hideous that they got away with charging people money to replace it with something attractive?

>>14402446

This is the best possible solution I think. I don't know why he's in the game in the first place, his every feature is handled by the quest board anyhow.

>>14403062

I do plan to eventually.

>although play the PC version as the console versions were heavy gimped just to get them running

Shit. Did the PC version get a physical release? It seems like most PC games that aren't porn only get digital releases these days.

>>14403062

Dogma has some Monster Hunter influences. And MH World takes a bit from Dogma which is probably why I still like World.

>>14403080

World is on the DD engine and uses many DD assets

>>14403144

>Wtf how dare they try to make Gunner viable, I hate this

>>14403144

>same post every thread

>>14403149

Gunner was perfectly viable in previous gens. You just fucking sucked.

>>14403156

Then counter it or fucking leave you pussy.

Dumb question:

Why 50 minutes? I looked around and found no logical explanation for it other than "Devs must've figured that was the PERFECT amount during development and playtesting". That doesn't quite satisfy my autism, so this and the "muh hunter serum lore" answers seem like kind of an ass pull.

>>14403186

There is no real reason for the time limit, and it is completely unnecessarily because most monsters die in 15 minutes if you have even basic understanding of the game.

Excluding some boring elder dragons from previous games like lao shang lung.

>>14403191

The reason the timelimit is there is so shitters can't use the base camp's bed to have infinite health by going back and forward for 5 hours.

>>14403210

But 50mins is already plenty for doing that. The whole timelimit is just pulled out of the devs' ass.

>>14403182

If you have a problem with it, do something about it. Also one post a thread is not spamming you fucking retard.

>>14403217

>implying

>thinks he is persecuted when he is contradicted

>>14403221

That's like saying the info in the OP is spamming every thread, you're beyond retarded. You didn't contradict shit.

>>14403150

I got that pic, thanks tho

>>14403210

I should have been more specific with my question:

Why 50 minutes instead of a full hour?

>>14403186

I found the 50 minute time limit somewhat constraining during the 2 monoblos urgent in MHFU last night.

Although I carted for the third time in the last 5 minutes of the hunt after using up 20 mega potions, I think I need to make some armour that isn't lr azure rath just so I can take hits without having to chug two megas

>>14403227

>mental gymnastics

>thinks he is worth the effort

>>14403231

Still the same answer: just something they pulled out of their ass. There is no reasoning behind the decision.

>>14403231

Only reason I see it is so the clock isn't a full circle. But then that begs the question, why not 55? I wonder the same thing myself, why is it 50 and not some other number.

>>14403149

Gunners were ridiculously powerful in the past, what are you talking about?

>>14403150

Fuck now I have to listen to the song again

>>14403156

Are you just assuming it's the same post because it's the same images? Those keep getting posted because they hold true.

>>14403182

But it's not spam.

>>14403830

don't forget you can bring parts for potions to be able to make 10x more and you can harbest more parts in the mission it self. so nah I wouldn't limit your self like that unless you're going for a hardcore start equipment run only

>>14403144

Nigga the same exact posts for over 6+months. I thought I would never say this but go outside and breathe. It's a fucking video game, fag.

>>14401393

Get yourself a legiana armor, except gloves and belt

Get a paolomu belt, and a tzitzi ya ku gloves

This should give you divine protection 3, evade distance 2 and evasion +5

Learn to iframe shit, it's faster than blocking and leaves you more time to attack

Also what is people's opinion on using the cats? I still haven't taken them on a single mission because I like solo play. I unlocked the cat cart missions on the farm, but my Lv. 4 cats keep bringing me back herb, dung and stone over and over… Is it even worth it to send these faggots on their journeys?

>>14403945

they bring you sinister cloths you can use to make a specific set of armor for yourself and the cat, so not terrible to do every now and then

>>14403945

Play the game however you want. I don't watch your stream but don't limit yourself solely on the fact that some turbo minmax autist ITT might call you names.

>>14403967

Yeah I'm no streamer or anything m8.

>>14403959

Okay, good to know. I'm playing the fan English patch, so 99% of the info books and screens are in nip nong, and I still haven't seeked out if there's proper translations elsewhere. Hell evne the cat scrap salesman has begun only talking in runes now.

>>14403989

>But there really isn't any reason to not send them off either.

Cost of yukumo points? That's one for me. Depending on how people acquire points, on normal hunts I barely get any, I just figured out a good way is to do the first * unique mushroom quest and quickly gather 20 of them and one wyvern egg, and you get almost 3000 points. But feels like cheating.

>>14403989

tbh the healing cat is godlike for GL and L since most times you'd rather not get distracted by healing when taking petty damage

instead, you could give your cat the bomb and the bazelgeuse mace, and see him do some serious damage

but if you're confident in your dps skill, horn booster cat with the paralizing flower is your choice

>>14403988

I don't think there are fully translated version, unless someone did it recently, but I doubt. That partially translated has been around for ages.

Not like you need to read more than material names in MH.

>>14404001

I think high rank quests start giving a lot more points. I don't remember running out of the points in end game. But yeah, I guess in the start it can be a better choice to not send them off then.

>>14404001

Once you fully upgrade your farm you will start collecting points so you may as well spend it on something.

>>14404030

But as the unlocks to get seem to be determined by clearing a questline (urgent quest), doesn't that mean that once the ladt upgrade is done, the game is over already? Or do people just keep playing the bathhouse missions of higher levels after the mains quest is done?

>>14404050

Monster hunter is a game series that ends once you get tired of it and wait for next installment. A lot of the people play way more than just finishing all the quests.

You either continue because it is fun, or you start making all the possible sets because it is fun.

Also the multiplayer works on emulator through tunneling programs like hamachi and evolve.

>>14404071

Got it, thanks!

>>14404050

The game is never over until you deicide to quit.

>>14404726

God she looks hideous even in Guildmarm's outfit.

No costume can fix that face

Or personality.

>>14404793

Her personality is nice. And she is cute when idle. Her ugliness comes from the facial animations imo. That is a game wide problem not just the handler.

>>14404901

I think she's obnoxious, easily excitable and puts herself and others in danger without thinking.

>>14404968

The felyne chefs cook me food. Doesn't mean he's my wife.

>>14404968

>But she cooks you food. She is practically your wife.

So do the Felynes, are they my wives to?

>>14405050

FUCKING MORMON FURRIES GET THE FUCK OF MY BOARD YOU FAGGETS

>>14405142

hitbox

>>14405033

>>14404991

The feleynes do it out of love for cooking she does it out of love for you. She's clearly into you, she either wants the dick or the superior yuri handholding

>>14405142

What does tranny faggot streamers have to do with Monster Hunter?

>>14405170

I'm playing world but i wanna play some more 3u and 4u.

>>14405214

No, she does it out of love for food. At Astera she sits at a table, taking up the whole thing with her books and empty/dirty dishes while she continuously stuffs her ugly gluttonous face.

When she rummages around your supply box while on a hunt she's probably looking for food too.

>>14402675

Would have to be very heavily modified. Odog/Tobi don't share any animations with Zinogre.

>>14403144

my favorite part of this post is

>have no less than 5 camps per map

when ancient forest and wildspire have 4 camps, coral highlands and rotten vale have 2 and elders recess has 3. really sums up the post nicely.

>>14403238

the only hunt i ever timed out on is the dual black gravios in the swamp, but that was ages ago and when i was too stubborn/stupid to try bowguns.

>>14404901

>Her personality is nice.

Bullshit. Every time she talked I just wanted to punch her in the face.

>>14405170

There's a fair number of people playing 4U recently.

>>14405214

>The feleynes do it out of love for cooking she does it out of love for you. She's clearly into you

I'm convinced she's actually a demonic beast mimicking a human, summoned by Donte to spy on and possibly sabotage you as part of his ongoing campaign to ruin Capcom's franchises he's also responsible for all of the monsters in the game, which are not actual living beings but golems in the shape of MonHun monsters, hence why none of them bleed and instead just crumble into pieces of stone when struck Point being, I wouldn't eat anything she's touched, and thus never eat in the field kitchen. Also

>>14405292

>When she rummages around your supply box while on a hunt she's probably looking for food too.

I figured this was part of her sabotage work as well, though I've yet to figure out precisely what it is.

>>14405388

Fill the box with nothing but Foob™. Then drag her immobilized carcass to the beach and let the incoming tide take care of the rest.

>gunlance is just lance but you can pew instead of hop in FU

what's even the point?

>>14405367

>really sums up the post nicely.

Actually, it does the opposite, since it's the only thing he says that's wrong other than being able to teleport at any time, which is still mostly true.

>>14405404

But then you can't carve it for parts to make new weapons out of.

>>14405433

Shelling ignores monster defenses and does set damage is my understanding, so it's good for harder hit zones. I can't get into Gunlance at all myself though, so take what I say on it with a grain of salt.

Just finished the last mission w/ two tempered bazelgeuses. I did everything solo. I thought the game was going to be hard.

>>14402675

Hm, looking through a few of MHF's dogs, they use Teostra's/Kushala's skeleton. I don't think MHW got them from there.

>>14405482

>I thought the game was going to be hard.

Ouch, I'm sorry for your disillusionment, at least I went in knowing it would be piss easy considering who they were marketing the game to, just not HOW piss easy.

>>14394731

Missed out on the monster hunter craze because I hate handhelds. MHW is going to be my first MH game.

>>14405502

Go download PPSSPP and emulate Freedom Unite and Portable 3rd.

>>14400915>>14405170

>Anybody playing the older games online?

We've been doing 4U rooms nightly rooms ~8pm central

Someone was doing 3rd a day or two ago

just post what you want to play, make a room, and hope for the best

>>14405502

>Missed out on the monster hunter craze because I hate handhelds

trully your loss

theres ppsspp and the Wii U you could have played them with those

>>14405446

besides bitching about having a mini map that literally every monster hunter has had, or being wrong about stopping monsters from fleeing you mean. world is far from a perfect game but a majority of the whining in that post is false or pointless

>>14405495

Then blame Capcom for never releasing MH outside the PS ecosystem for a decade. I realise they were going for more users here and sexbox games tend to be easier for the kiddos, but the game really was not hard. However, my only other game was Tri, and that game felt hard half because the menu system was incredibly obtuse.

In my opinion, the mounting monsters system is overpowered. I can abuse that all day and I get free GS hits and break parts with the part breaker gem. I can cut off a tail in not much more than one full GS charge combo.

>>14405502

I beat the game in 80 hours. It's worth it. They didnt skimp on content for sure. A few times I thought the game was done, it wasnt.

>>14405446

still seems dull, think I'm going to drop FU for p3rd where it actually has a different moveset

>>14405524

>besides bitching about having a mini map that literally every monster hunter has had

He's complaining about the fact that once you see the monster or grab enough of the tracking things in the environment you have a free Autotracker forever, not the existence of the map.

>or being wrong about stopping monsters from fleeing you mean

He's not wrong about that at all, I've seen it happen myself. With very few exceptions, if a monster is in a hallway or other path, they will ignore you even if you're actively fucking them up and continue running to another area.

>world is far from a perfect game but a majority of the whining in that post is false or pointless

Having played most of the game, I'm going to say no, he's absolutely right about most of it.

>>14405527

>Then blame Capcom for never releasing MH outside the PS ecosystem for a decade.

What does that have to do with anything?

>In my opinion, the mounting monsters system is overpowered.

It's pretty ridiculous yeah.

>It's worth it.

It really, really isn't.

>They didnt skimp on content for sure

Bullshit. That's one of the most universal complaints about it.

>>14405534

I don't blame you, like I said, I can't get into it myself.

>>14405561

Most games, I get 4-8 hours of single player content. I got 80 here, and I zoomed through the game. I paid $60. My threshhold for 'value' games is less than $1 per hour played, and I met it.

Actually, the game is pretty good for a variety of reasons. reversing the trend started by Oblivion, MHW does not instance every fucking area like MH did for most games including Tri. I thought the scoutflies were stupid, so it's not perfect, but the game seemingly crescendoes twice before it reaches its real climax. I thought that was great. Yes there's no deviljho, but we did have a bunch of elder dragons. It's a shame they're all jokes besides -maybe- Teostra.

Tempered elders would have been great.

Am I a retarded or does Rathalos run all over the forest making the player follow him like a little bitch in heat? Seriously like 10 minutes of my hunts are just running around this fucker and he doesn't even drop the Ruby

>>14405596

Bring more flashpods

>>14405595

>Most games, I get 4-8 hours of single player content

What kind of garbage games are you playing? Jesus.

>I paid $60. My threshhold for 'value' games is less than $1 per hour played, and I met it.

But was it enjoyable? I got the game for free and still have buyer's remorse. It's just a fucking awful game.

>Actually, the game is pretty good for a variety of reasons. reversing the trend started by Oblivion, MHW does not instance every fucking area like MH did for most games including Tri

You mean how instead of loading screen connections between areas, there's tunnels and shit now? That's actually one of my complaints, since it means you have a lot of dead zones and dead time that don't matter at all.

>>14405596

Paintball him and watch him carefully, sometimes he'll fly over an area into another. If you want more chances at shinies, knock him out of the air, either by gunning, Flash Bombing, or if you're playing 4/X, mounting him while he's in mid-air. Also make sure you're capturing him for the Ruby, it can't be carved.

>>14405561

paintballs were never fun. its funny considering it complains about running down path ways and then insists that loosing track of a monster and running around for 5 (or more) minutes is fun. unless of course you are mlg and just bring psychoserums, which are even easier amass than paintballs themselves. also you can use just about any of the dropped slinger ammo to stop monsters from fleeing zones. also challenger mantle. the only exception to this is when you have anjanath or bazel chasing you in tunnels where it is to small for it to even turn around.

i will agree in that fast travel needs to be nixed, eating at camp needs to be set in a small time limit so you dont have to reload just for forgetting to eat, access to your box needs to be nixed while bringing back the barrel cat to send mats back. monsters need more hp as a whole. they also need to separate village and guildquests again, as im starting to loose my shit over people whining about doing story quests online when they should have been solo only from the first place.

>>14405649

At least in this game monsters can travel to most areas. Other MHs didnt even need paintballs because they were only able to appear in like 2-3 instanced zones so finding them was trivial after facing them a few times.

>>14405625

>>14405601

I am playing MHW, I have no flashpods and rushed the quests and my box is shit

>>14405595

>Tempered elders would have been great.

the endgame is nothing but tempered elders, what are you talking about. you unlock tempered elders at HR 50 after clearing the tempered kirin urgent and the last quest (that i know of) unlocks at HR 100

>>14405687

Oh I guess I thought the game was done. I just finished all the game quests after the two tempered bazelgeuses.

How do I get more quests?

>>14405662

still somewhat true. all the monsters have the few zones they hang out in the most while so far only anja and bazel seem to go where ever they want.

>>14405702

Raise your hunter rank.

>>14405721

Easiest way to do this?

Also, what do you guys think about the different armor sets? I am still using my king beetle chestpiece because I love two points of quick sheath. Mobility is king in this game.

>>14405702

at HR 49 you unlock a quest for a tempered kirin, and after that you will be able to find tempered elder dragon tracks while on expiditions. kushala in the forest, teo in the wastes, kirin in the highlands, vaal in the vale and nergi in the elders recess. i think you get a few optionals as well. the big thing that changes is being able to augment your gear, which makes up the end game of world. the HR 100 quest is a tempered teo, kushala and nergi.

>>14405729

the event quest hunt-a-thons are a good bet, or investigations that have you hunt multiple monsters.

>>14405702

Get to HR49 then do another quest. You

lll unlock a tempered Kirin quest. Then you really unlock your HR.

>>14405729

Currently there's an event quest out to hunt both Tempered Legiana and Tempered Pink Rathian. It gives bonus HR points. See if you can do that one.

If not, then just do hunts until it goes up.

>>14405757

Cherry Blossom? Easy, done it already. Just checked, my HR is 32.

>>14405806

Yes. And?

>>14405814

good tastes tbh

>>14405835

no u

>>14405649

>chasing you in tunnels

Opposite, it's always you chasing the monsters because they bolt after you whack them a few times.

>>14406312

post more narga

>niggergante has pawpads

wherefore?

>>14406312

>fight nergigante

>everything prior to including bazel feels weaker

>fight xeno

>nergigante feels like a bitch

>fight anything tempered

>xeno is cake

>get the piss knocked out of me against kirin

>tempered monsters are all still hard, but nergigante, to confirm, is trash to me now

is there just a point where you level up as a player in these games? I feel like I have weird bouts of skill increase depending on distance through the story.

>>14406910

Yeah it's called gitting gud. Despite World being the easiest entry you still need to learn to play.

>>14406910

I attributed it mostly to processing dodge times, and with armour upgrades getting punished less for each hit. Vitality mantle, and then rocksteady or applicable resistance, really breaks the usual playstyle. Elderseal as well turns some fights topsy turvy in your favour.

>>14395417

>>14395409

>>14395403

>>14395408

>>14395406

Is there any more like this? I think we should probably get a pastebin or something going for Anon evaluations of World to throw into the OP

>>14405805

What I think he means is it uses the heavily modified version DD uses, the original MT engine is stage based which means it only loads small chunks of a level at a time hence why older MH games have loading screens between each zone, this made it impossible to make open world games like DD so the DD team pretty much had to rewrite the entire engine which obviously played a role in the newer more openish worlds MHW uses.

If DD was never made MHW would most likely still be using the old zone by zone system.

>>14405504

Is that better than emulating 3rd on the Wii ?

The bloom in that game is buggy and it looks like dogshit. Still fun but my eyes hurt.

>>14407825

Portable 3rd is basically Tri with some returning older monsters, a few new monsters, and none of the swimming. Also, you get the traditional Felyne companions, instead of Chacha, and it's the first game to allow you to give different armor to the Felynes.

Freedom Unite doesn't play quite as well Tri, but it has every single monster that was ever created at the time. It was the largest MH ever, until 4U was released.

Okay I'm kind of in a tough spot.

So I finally made it to ??? Rathian and realize all of my best gear is made from rathian. But I need to hunt it and sort of built myself into a corner.

Basically what I'm asking is what's the most efficient strategy for hunting pink rathalos so I can most effectively get the parts to avoid being stuck in pukei-pukei purgatory?

Can someone tell me why a lot of dialogue in XX's fan translation isn't translated? While I know official translations aren't typically the best, I would think they could at least start with the Generations dialogue and work from that. Is it some kind of technical issue?

>>14409447

They don't view it as important. They only bothered to translate quest names, item names, skill names, HA/Style descriptions, etc. Anything else doesn't matter to them.

The translations they actually did do are of questionable quality too. For example, for no clear reason, they (((localized))) some things to be references to random bands and songs that all just so happen to also be Stand names. They also had extremely liberal (((localizations))) for the deviants, though it's not like the official one was any better, and they had very inconsistent abbreviations for them. Some were abbreviated by removing vowels from their names (eg, Snwbrn, Hellbld), some were abbreviated by initializing the first word in their name and leaving the second whole (eg, D.tusk, S.wind), and others were abbreviated by just cutting off the word halfway through (eg, Dreadq). Then Deadeye wasn't abbreviated at all for some reason, and Divinesight was shortened to Dvsight, cutting out both vowels and consonants from the first word, but leaving the second whole. This inconsistency ruffles up my autism and is not something that would be tolerated in an even somewhat professional translation, especially because most of them actually didn't even need to be abbreviated.

>>14410472

>Shaggy

Possibly Shagaru Magala, but I can't see him being there without Gore at least.