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>>14374146

The localizers said Sega wants Y6 to have its time in the limelight so I wager they'll start bringing Western Kiwami 2 news around June-July. As for the release date, I was thinking December but wouldn't be surprised if it comes out in 2019.

Have no idea what they'll do about HGG.

>>14374821

Everyone will tell you to play them in order so you get an idea of how the series evolved. The first game aged terribly, Y2 is a major improvement, Y3 made a huge leap but the localized version is missing a lot of content, Y4 and Y5 introduce multiple playable characters, Y0 and Kiwami revamp the combat with the multiple styles, Y6 and YK2 rebuild the gameplay from scratch with a new graphics engine and combat but will feel like a step back in other aspects. Not as important but worth underlining - until Y0, the games all got a shitload of very poor localization choices, usually name changes that just add to the confusion (the localizers that worked in 0, Kiwami and 6 mentioned how they're trying to amend that).

But if a catch up is all you want, Sega of America has been working a site that has the game stories and characters, all that stuff arranged chronologically.

http://yakuza.sega.com/experience/

Very shallow first impressions on HGG: for the most part, it plays like Yakuza. Light, Heavy, dodge, block, stance, burst they're all mapped to the same buttons and seem to work in the same way.

The big game changer is the Circle button, it's no longer a grab but something that acts like a Ougi primer. It can be done after any attack and what Kenshiro does seems to be tied with the string used before and besides opening a enemy to a Ougi, it might have additional effects (I've done one that seemed to blind a enemy). Basically, you'll need to smack enemies around a bit until there's a Circle button icon near their HP bars and once that connects, you can perform a Ougi. If the enemy doesn't have the Circle icon, he'll parry Kenshiro's attack. I'm not sure if the Ougi depends on the string that preceded it or the enemy. It seemed the later but I managed to hit Shin with two different ones. Overall, they feel more like finishers than big damage dealers like the Heat Actions. Also, they all got a couple of QTEs into them and they're pretty hard to nail.

A small thing I found pretty cool though I don't know if it will apply to everyone but the freeze frame character introduction overlays a black and white illustration over the character model, then colors it and then transitions into the 3D model.

No takers on the HGG demo? Was hoping to benefit from the insight of those who actually know what they're doing.

Stumbled upon a few more interesting follow up moves that led to juggle combos and the Circle attack can connect with juggled enemies as well. Every encounter is ranked and it seems similar to Y0 where you're awarded bonus points per every enemy you defeat, depending on how you do it. Rank looks pretty harsh overall - got Bs a plenty, a couple of Cs and a A. Overall, it looks like Yakuza with a zest of CUHRAIZEEE.

Cheeky bump.

>>14376115

>>14379929

the juggle starter is the Triangle, Triangle ender. you can then combo them and/or grab them with O afterwards.

The circle icon appears

- When you've filled the skull next to their hp bar by hitting them

- upon dodging some attacks

- on smaller guys when they get afraid because you've exploded a big guy

- after a rage jump kick

The finisher QTE can be skipped entirely: when you perform the circle stun on an enemy with a circle icon, there is a small QTE on said icon, if you time it correctly the enemy just explodes there without any cinematic.

>>14375645

>The first game aged terribly

I disagree. It feels a bit heavy on the loadings, especially for fights but it still plays great.

>>14380089

also check out one of the dpad specials and the fear-induced vulnerable state

>>14380089

Thanks for the pointers.

I've noticed the Circle icon also appears when you can counter some moves, the most noticeable is the fat guys doing the hyper armor slow walk with their arms up.

>there is a small QTE on said icon

I nailed some of those, it's how you collect the death cries. Incidentally, the Kiba midgets can only be insta-killed with that; there' no Ougi for them.

For a couple more random observations, the town seems a bit on the small side, maybe comparable to Sotenbori in terms of size. Meanwhile, the open roads where you go for joy rides is huge and I bet a good chunk of the time will be spent there gathering materials (what they'll be used for, I've no clue). The car is a bit rough to handle, like you're driving in thin ice.

>>14385831

It's plenty bloody (more than the average anime episode, at least), it's just not gory.

>>14387597

Maybe they don't want to up the rating, or they might see it as a waste of resources because it would apply only to the mooks or maybe they simply don't have the technical know how to pull it off. I don't think any HnK game went beyond this stylized burst. I'm more upset they didn't manage to pull off the fist marks forming a cross on Shin's chest nor the shoulder pad popping off.

The one thing I'd like to see would be the five finger burst as a counter attack, ideally with the x-ray showing the bones shattering.

>>14388357

damn, this is one of the best games I've played in a very long time.

>download Yakuza 6 demo from the store

>combat is jank x100 with framerate drops below 30

Wow, holy shit. I was actually planning on skipping 6 and wait for the eventual Kiwami 2 release instead, but after playing this demo, I don't think I'll buy either.

I don't understand this. They were on the right track with smoothing out the edges this series had with Y0/K1, but it's like they threw all of that progress away for new shiny graphics. Admittedly, Y6's art style looks great if not for the aliasing, but still.

>>14374126

I don't have a PS4, so I am waiting as long as possible to play 4, because that's the last one that I have access to. Used PS4s are still nowhere near an acceptable price. I would have to stop being a drunken unemployed loser in order to buy one, so fuck that. I can wait a few months.

>>14399778

It was my GOTY and with some good competition at that. A lot of fun once you're free to horse around. That said, Kiwami's subtle changes to Kiryu's styles make it a bit hard to go back to it, even if the game itself isn't as good (those Beast charges are just too much fun).

>>14400793

Kiwami 2 allegedly runs much smoother. Having played that demo, I guess I should expect to be a bit disappointed with 6.

>>14406258

>mfw when i was going to download the demo yesterday but i put it off for later

>>14406258

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>>14406258

And for once, Sony EU didn't take 2 more days to get something done. How odd!

And here I was hoping to capitalize on their incompetence.

>>14400793

I actually liked the demo a lot. The framerate is a shame after how smooth they managed to get it with Ishin/0/Kiwami, and the greatly reduced walking speed is kind of annoying, but those aside I don't really have any complaints. Combat feels like it's got a lot more weight behind it than in the aforementioned three and I think a big part of that is because enemies and Kiryu recoil based on where an attack hits them or if they block an attack, that's one of my favourite additions. Enemies being able to block low attacks (like the football kick) is also interesting, that's a layer of strategy that wasn't present in the rest of the series (as far as I remember, anyway). It's also nice that enemies deliberately pick up objects and throw them at you/kick them at you now, it looks and feels a lot less janky than having them do a regular attack in front of an object and then having the object home towards you as in 0 & Kiwami.

But my favourite thing about it is how seamless it is compared to the others. Being able to throw someone off a balcony and jump down after them without any interruptions (webm related) for the first time in the series is really nice. For reference, doing the same thing in the Chinese restaurant in Kiwami takes about 5 seconds for the heat action to throw someone off and then another 5 seconds for a cutscene of Kiryu jumping to the ground floor. I also like being able to take fights inside buildings and break their windows etc., especially since the damage persists after the fight and you can walk through the broken windows afterwards. Interactivity with the environment was always one of my favourite things about Yakuza compared to the vast majority of open world games, so I really like that they've significantly expanded on that.

Unless there's a seriously shit moment in the full game that singlehandedly ruins the whole thing somehow, I think I'm going to like 6.

>>14409218

From /ps4g/ disagreement here. Someone from cuckchan is going to report everyone subscribed to imageboard related communities on PSN who has the yakuza demo, and try to get your PSN accounts banned.

>>14409462

>>14409465

>discuck

Forgot to mention I really appreciate that 6 finally fixes the issue of not being able to grab enemies while on stairs as well as no longer having to mash X to get up after you're knocked down. I hated that shit.

>>14410162

The icon doesn't appear? IIRC they changed its placement.

>>14410423

>Maybe the flow of the combat gets drastically different with upgrades?

It does. There's upgrades to speed up attack. And now I'm getting Kamuro flashbacks of trying to get the Dragon Speed ones in Kiwami.

>want to buy yakuza 0

>pretty high price, doubt it

>see yakuza 0+6 bundle

>it costs almost the same as full yakuza 0

>doubt it because its a preorder

>see that i get yakuza 0 instantly and its an instant pay preorder

>i just get yakuza 6 next month later

Fuck. Now i HAVE to order this, because its a better deal than just buying yakuza 0 and kiwami alone. I now will buy this preorder and kiwami, which also has discount till 8 march.

So my question is, how much am i fucked with yakuza 6 next month if i didn't played any other yakuza yet? Because i lose almost no money on getting it.

>>14415052

That is a pretty good deal. For the most part, these games are pretty resistant to price drops outside a PS+ discount. Go for it, even if you have to let the games sit there while you play the others to catch up.

As for your question, refer to >>14375645

There will be names and relationships between characters that someone who's just getting into the series won't figure and it's a downpour of names of all sorts (characters, families, places etc) as well as mob ranks that might not be easy to grasp.

kiryu doesn't look bad for a man that constantly scowls in his late 40's

>>14415230

>you will never protect his smile

>>14415224

Don't get me wrong, you should get it. Heck! Buy Kiwami while you're at. You'll have games to keep you busy until the end of the year. The year 2020, if you're prone to horsing around.

>>14415230

Freakin' asians, man.

>>14415831

Get Ishin too.

Imagine Ryu ga Gotoku Sangoku game set in three kingdoms where Kiryu portrays Lu Bu.

>>14415831

>What kind of black magic is this

Plastic love.

Another Yakuza staple, the Coliseum, is in HGG. There will be both brawls and duels. Also, Famitsu gave it 35/40.

Game's out next week so we can spoil ourselves rotten looking up 北斗が如く because by the game the game's out in the West we'll have forgot everything we've seen.

>>14417503

So it's a whole game of people actively avoiding you?

>>14417507

Every time you listen to it, she gets a day younger. It's a nice song but I'm more of a Taeko Ohnuki person.

>>14422124

I know, was just making a stupid follow up of my own.

I'm on a Yakuza break right now but I need to replay Kiwami one of these days and that P5 NG+ run I keep postponing. Freakin' time sinkers. Cheeky bump.

>>14418286

>Also, Famitsu gave it 35/40.

They gave Dynasty Warriors 9 same score. I don't trust that shitty magazine.

>>14423581

Skyrim, FF XIII-2, Zelda Skyward Sword, MGS V and Zelda BOTW are 40/40.

Does this say anything to you about Famitsu?

>Wasteland exploration

>Get to a field of spikes that I guess Ken says he can't navigate through

>Get off the buggy and just walk into the field, Ken's clipping through the spikes

>End up noticing a pack of outlaws gunning straight for me as this is happening, get into a fight with tons of dudes

>Win the fight, buggy gets spawned on top the spikes I was walking in

>Taking damage forever, any attempts to get out lead to me getting put back where the buggy spawned

>I'm trapped inside my buggy on a spike field taking infinite damage

>>14428332

>47 hours

Dammit. You made it sound like it wasn't even full game.

I am going to judge myself since i tend to screw around a lot, how's the arena? Did you completed it too?

>>14417503

>Kamen Rider Ga Gotoku

>Black Swordsman Ga Gotoku

>>14447906

>when someone merges Yakuza with GTA

>>14440612

It could just be me and I understand for Kiwami 2 they used the 6 engine, but why did they have to use the exact same model of Kiryu from 6 Man being older than 40 for Kiwami 2? At least from 0 to Kiwami, you can see the clear, natural age difference. Kiwami to Kiwami 2, only a year or so past, I think, and he already looks like he's seen everything.

Kiryu in the PS2 games was relaxed as hell, so I guess I can't blame them for making him care slightly more for whats happening around him.

>>14448049

I seriously need to one day play Sleeping Dogs, it's been too long.

HGG's already out, people are streaming it and there's already a bunch of videos showing the boss fights.

Meanwhile, last night I took the demo for another while the Bloodborne servers were collapsing from dysentery. Game's really fun once you get a midge of a idea of what you're doing though I'm yet to figure how to trigger specific Ougi. Got a situational one with a wall which looks pretty cool and also noticed that getting or failing the inputs alters the color of the technique's name; I've mentioned them as QTEs before but they're more akin to rhythm game inputs - it's not just pressing the right button, timing is important too and from what I gleamed in a couple of streams today, the number of inputs appear to increase with upgrades.

While fighting mooks with little health, I've noticed that Light > [Heavy] seems to be the better way to set up a Ougi. It's also possible to do Light > [Circle] but they can easily walk out of its range. And if I'm not mistaken it looks like breaking enemies' armor is a factor for rank. I've had fights to dragged on for long but still got A rank.

Lastly, one thing about the full game that bugged me is that bosses look very passive, even on Hard. And some have very few moves. The very first - Devil Rebirth - is a giant example of both.

>>14448142

>but why did they have to use the exact same model of Kiryu from 6 Man being older than 40 for Kiwami 2?

They've elevated asset re-use into an art form.

>>14448612

>something about Kiwami 2 really rubs me the wrong way

PRESS F FOR CRAZY KEN

>>14448049

>when someone doesn't make a sequel

>>14449361

There's a donut steel that looks like he'll be the big scary evil aura masked man.

>>14449394

Might be a easter egg. All of the characters shown are from the first HnK plus a handful of OCs. On that note, surprised that Mamiya, Juda and Shuu weren't confirmed (if they're in the game it's gonna be a surprise).

>>14449730

I should give you the "play them in order" spiel but sure, go for it. It's a remake of the first though there's some call backs to Zero that you might miss. It's pretty cheap on PSN right now.

>>14450999

He looks more like Hyou than some kind of Raoh clone under the mask. Long black hair, more slender looking face.

I just got done with Yakuza 5. Had a lot of fun with it and really liked that it was a bit more like the first two tonally but it's a shame that it started to fall apart at the end.

>>14458242

It's his outfit.

Would I still be able to enjoy HGG if I don't know much about Fist of the North Star? I doubt I'll import it or anything but it does look quite fun.

>>14469974

Hokuto no Ken doesn't have a complex story to begin with.

Its just Mel Gibson mixed with fighting styles of Bruce Lee beating the shit out of people in post apocalyptic world and saying that they are already dead before they die.

He had a waifu, a sworn enemy, and a secret techniques he wields. But that's about it with the story.

>>14463377

>it started to fall apart at the end.

That whole chunk could go missing and it probably wouldn't affect the story in any way. Plus a final boss so non-threatening he's the one getting monologued but, then again, that's been true for Kiryu from 3 onward.

>>14469974

You might miss out on callbacks to the manga and the importance of some characters will elude you but, for the most part, the story is centered around the original characters. Putting aside the appearance of some legacy characters, the whole thing feels like a self-contained story arc.

If you haven't, give the manga a read. Always good even if HGG is not part of the equation.

>>14470000

Omae wa mou quadeiru.

Anyway, almost all of HGG's key moments are on YT by now. Some weird twists that I'm curious about how they'll be worked around. It also seems a bit on the short side and easy but the YTer in question also made Jingu look piss easy.

Amon is allegedly in but haven't seen the fight yet.

>>14470008

>>14470000

Thanks. I've been wanting to give FOTNS a read anyway so this is as good an excuse as any.

>>14470288

If Amon doesn't appear in Shin RGG then I'd be pretty happy with that as a send off. I still need to fight him in Ishin, I hear the fight against Amon in it is really great but I've still got about 25ish battle dungeon missions to do.

>>14470605

>Shin RGG

The prospect of them switching to mophead without giving Akiyama and Saejima a Zero combat system remake nor telling the story of teenager-young adult Goda really stirs my sprinkles. I hope they're not planning to leave those behind and replace them with "hip n' with it" versions like some shitty fighting game sequel.

I don't frequent these threads, so I don't know if you guys have discussed this yet, though the few times i'v brought this up on /v/ people didn't know at all.

Temper your expectations when it comes to Kiwami 2. On the whole it will probably still be good, but they've already messed up a few things. Pic 3 this area was completely cut from the game.

They also completely fucked this Cutscene, spoilers though.