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Are radiant shards used for anything other than focus points? I'm keeping a few brilliant in reserve to unlock the passives but do radiants do anything like that?

I haven't played this game fort least 2 years. I remember there being a stance system which seemed to add a bit of depth to the combat. Has that been expanded upon or is combat still musou levels of simple?

>>14348532

It's still "Mash E until they're dead" yes.

>>14348532

No, stances are mostly used for replacing the shitty default moveset and to add extra mod points.

The combat hasn't evolved past button mashing and "press attack while holding block" , some stances can proc some status alignments and knockbacks but that's about it

>>14348555

>>14348565

That’s unfortunate. It’s rather disappointing. The game has so much going for it, but I just find the base gameplay so repetitive.

>>14348622

That's what happens when you spend three years only adding new shit that's shallow. Why fix basic problems when you can pile on new and shiny shit to get them to forget it?

>>14348704

I expected much worse to be honest

>>14348622

That's DE for you, they rather keep adding new but shallow content instead of polishing the stuff that's already in the game.

That being said, I kind of get why they do this, if they stop the flow of new content in order to address the staggering amount of stagnating content the playerbase is just gonna get bored and leave, a large amount of players won't care if the devs make something work like it should have been since release, the only option that DE has is to keep pumping out new unpolished content and eventually improve it while at the same time try to develop new shit; it is an endless circle of cleaning a public toilet that can't flush

If you're still playing warfarm you need to hang yourself. This freemium shit would die if you stop playing F2P games entirely. Kill yourself, for the good of the human race.

>>14348786

>american frame is also the strongest

It checks out.

Is it possible to kill a hydrolyst in 2 minutes? I have something to prove to someone so I need a way to kill these things as fast as humanly possible. Please help

>>14350449

For guandao just put the gladiator mod that has crit damage, or an elemental mod for more damage.

For sybaris, hunter munitions works great on it, and I'd also put corrosive on it as the status chance isn't too bad.

>>14350463

makes sense on the guandao

about the sybaris though; how would i put corrosive + HM on there? aren't six slots basically mandatory for cookiecutter (split, hc, serration, shred)/crit (pointstrike, vs) mods? It's like I could go HM+single ele or just corrosive, but not both

>>14350485

Heavy cal is optional, and shred isn't very useful in 90% of cases, so I'd recommend taking off those two. Sybaris should be able to output enough damage and has a very good base fire rate.

>>14350505

Elaborate

>>14350505

>>14350515

>hey kid wanna get HOTFIXED

>>14350521

CAN I FINALLY USE HER FOR AYYS

Is this game good yet

>>14350505

>Focus farm

LITERALLY NOTHING

you could take nu-volt and do better

>>14350528

Eidolons? No.

>>14350521

>uh oh we made mag useful for SOMETHING

>gotta hotfix that lol

>>14350515

You spam one button in bere while EV and Rhino cunnilingus and rimjob you and you get daily focus cap in like 2-3 runs.

>>14350505

Shut the fuck up dude. Do you want her to get nerfed again?

>>14350587

>Not bullying Ember to suicide

>>14350587

Mag is a cute and shy little flower.

>>14350595

DE did that themselves.

>>14350600

>no ass

>no tits

>no waist

>no legs

>no nothing

>cute anything

>>14348505

>Need sunglasses just to get through the encounter.

This. Two fights with Gant and each time I've gotten a migraine from it. I hear Hydro isn't as bad as far as visual spam goes but I'll never make it to him at this rate.

>>14350611

She is plain and modest.

>>14350611

>Doesn't have a fat ass or cow tits makes her not cute

>>14350612

Hydro's attacks are just as spammy if not more, but they use a more muted green than the bright orange of gant so it's somewhat easier on the eyes.

>>14350648

>She still wears skintight suit

Anon I…

>>14350513

>shred isn't very useful in 90% of cases

while i get taking off heavy cal (it kind of hurts it at mid-long range shooting when you're trying to be accurate; and I guess it's fine, you don't have to run hcal on everything, I don't run it on my fuckin vectis for example) are you serious about shred? It seems more like 90% of the 'cases' is fighting massive mobs of fodder running at you in waves and or straight lines and being able to pick chunks of that horde off with punchthrough or some kind of AoE rather than one at a time is massive QoL and very important for even 'getting to' deepwave stages where you even have lv100+ enemies that the 'damage optimization' from mods is noticable. I mean while one way might kill that single 150 heavy gunner three times as fast in simalcrum, most of the time it's going to be more like you're facing 80 corrupted lancers, 30 heavy gunners, 20 bombards and 20 nullifiers; all at level 50 though, but you need to thin their combined ranks fast and can't cc/headshot burst down every single one, one at a time (or even if you fuckin CAN, it's going to take a lot longer and require a lot more attention and coordination on your side than slideattacking through them or using an ignis or amprex or something)

>>14350652

>something something lore

It's a female figure with ugly female features.

That's all there is to it.

>>14350663

That's a lot of text, but you dont put heavy cal or shred on single bullet weapons like snipers or latrons.

They suffer from it. Even singular elemental mod would be better for those.

But for automatic weapons and some shotguns, that's the other way around.

>>14350663

This. Why bother aiming when you can just spray shit and death across the entire room?

>>14350671

Eidolons.

>>14350663

Most enemies don't line up well enough to make punch through matter unless it's a beam weapon or something with real heavy fire like supra or gorgon. And having both armor strip and HM is really gonna serve you on taking down heavy units.

>>14350648

It's not the color, it's the pseudo strobe effect. Shit kills my eyes.

>>14350673

Shred on tigris prime is god tier tho.

Unless you have riven, which would replace it in most cases.

>>14350680

Just disable color correction/screen shake or something.

Are you console kid or something?

>>14350685

Your blacks display as greys to me. You either have shitty monitor or shitty eyes or both.

Also - fuck around with options if you're such pussy.

And yes disabling color correction disables color correction of abilities and effects like hysteria and bladestorm, it should work with eidolons as well.

>>14350692

>strobe effect

>repeated overly bright flashes

>just disable color correction/screen shake

Don't ever be an optometrist.

>>14350692

Yeah I am aware they are a little grey in the screenshot. might be the software capturing and washing it out.

>>14350709

A good riven synergizes well enough with a weapon without gimping it with it's negative effects in any significant way. Well enough that's worth the drain and a mod slot, that is. Bad rivens either do fuck-all for the invesment or actively shit on a weapon.

>>14350744

>consolepleb

>>>/out/

>>14350726

I was talking more about the threshold between the two.

Obviously Critical Chance/Status Chance on the right weapon is king.

Despite not having Crit Chance on the first, the rifle's base crit chance with standard mods makes it viable for just churning out multi-hit chain lighting criticals with each crit doing stupid damage with the acolyte mods.

The electricity boost would compensate for one of the two pure damage elemental mods that are typically in a crit build, ensuring the space open, while the boosted ammo max is apathy-inducing at best. Meanwhile, the negative is absolutely fantastic because

>infested

while still boosting the rates of the three positives.

Versus the Serro mod which is basically an amped up Voltaic Strike given boosted damage to infested which is far less usable due to cost (18 versus 7), and thus closer to the good/shit threshold despite having one of the king boosts, especially since it doesn't have a negative trait to boost the positives even further.

>>14350836

Here's perspective

>+weapon recoil

or

>-weapon accuracy

Is nothing for Tigris.

Is huge detriment for Soma.

Because with Soma you need accuracy and with Tigris you don't.

>>14350994

Or

-status duration

Is a detriment for both tigris and soma, but is nothing for lanka or vectis.

So even if you get some godlike multishots or crit stats, you still may want to reroll if you got negative that shits on weapons.

>>14350836

Ask yourself these two questions

>is the mod I am replacing on that build better than the riven, or just as cost effective?

>does this weapon need a riven

For something like amprex, you really don't need one, but that riven you have is better than virtually any mod you're gonna be replacing it on the build with. For serro, I never used it but with that much status, it probably doesn't need a riven, and a dual stat is almost as effective with out any negatives. So serro I would dump, amprex keep.

>>14350725

Showed my friend the screenshot and he gave some color correction guides for my monitor to get off the default setting. Didn't even know about "crushing your blacks"

>>14351212

>It's almost as if it's not a warframe content, for fuck's sake

What?

>>14351212

What part of a ayydolon fight you consider a puzzle though? breaking down shields, grabbing lures, dodging out of nowhere beams of light?

>20 times has not got the dupe yet.

You are not doing more than one cycle i presume then.

I just find annoying the horrible hitbox on the new ayydolons and the single case that all of then can recast shields one second after getting then down, which is just a cheap way of making the fight more tedious. But i have to say, the arcanes not being blueprints and you getting one for each kill/capture is actually one of the best decisions DE has done in a while. They could have fucked this up a lot, but on launch it is not that bad.

The articula are just pilling up at this point and the riven transmutations are a waste of time unless you buy rivens in bulk hoping for the golden egg, this should be a feature from the moment rivens entered the market, would not have made some weapons rivens endo from the get go and made the market at least self sustained on the crap that no one wants. But hey DE can't into economy, or resources balances so what did i expect.

>>14352047

You don't have to do it all in one mission.

Haven't played since right after War Within. What do I need to know before I start again?

>>14352270

there's literally nothing to do, we're destiny tier now, it's gotten so bad DE are removing content, trials is about to go away forever

>>14352686

Acrid is pretty trash, and is also a status weapon not crit, sorry anon.

>>14352715

dang well that's not a massive surprise i guess.

On a seperated and unrelated note; what's the best 'eidolon hunting/general purpose (stalker and battalystys,concultysts etc…)' amp setup? All of these seem to cost a lot of rare fish parts and gems so I'm not really going to 'get them all' and try different combinations anytime in the immediate future. So far from what I've read the 'final tier' grenade launcher prism isn't that great, and that the mid tier mid range punch through one is the best prism? And then for scaffold, I have absolutely no idea. And lastly for brace, The third tier (+crit/status) is the best, followed by the first (+ammo cap) and the mid tier isn't that useful in general?

Also how the heck are you supposed to 'efficiently' level amps? I've done a bunch of eidolon and even topped the damage charts (vectis/volt3 in pubs) in quite a few but my fuckin Mote amp is still <lv 10. I just don't get XP for the thing. In 'normal' missions I always pop 5 at the beginning to trigger the zeunrik stuff and get a few hundred xp at the end for amp, but I guess I just don't understand how leveling this thing works.

>>14353072

shwaak prism, juttni brace, pencha scaffold. Schwaak is just the arca plasmor, pencha is the opticor, and juttni decreases the delay on energy recharge. But this if just for eidolons, because fighting stalker and any other sentient you just wanna use your frame and weapons and only use your amp to purge resistances, which every amp does the same equally well.

As for leveling, just take it to akkad. It should be able to kill the enemies there fairly easily, so just stay in operator and kill enemies until you're done. The only reason to level amps is for mastery anyway, as gilding just gives minor stat boosts and can only be done once to each amp anyway.

>>14352538

>rewriting lore

>not just saying that the grakatas were reverse engineered

Step up your game anon

>>14353072

>>14353120

Take Mesa, mod for duration and range, cast Mesa's Shooting Gallery, and swap to Operator to kill things unopposed. Akkad or Hydron are fine, just keep in mind that you have to focus fire ancients first on Akkad or nothing dies.

No one mods Mesa for range but it's the best shit. Roomfuls of enemies stand around being useless, slapping their guns or shaking their heads.

>doing eyylmaos with randoms

>bring my amesha archwing

>tell everyone I can keep them safe during the magnetic spike and it won't proc

>"Energy spike Tenno!"

>the retard with the lures runs back

>Teralyst teleports away

>"Don't do that, I can keep you safe, you gotta keep the lures near him"

>"Oh, my bad".

>he does it again

>and again

>runs out of revives

>"Well, you guys are on your own, lol"

>quits

>I get a fucking loading screen mid-revive another guy

>loading screen ends, so does revive time

>it was his last revive

>"Well… fuck."

>disconnects aswell

And then I finished the fucking ayylodon on my own because I'm a fucking Ash Prime and I don't shit from anything.

And then repeat the same story 3 times with 3 more groups of randoms, holy shit are people fucking retarded.

>>14354345

>bringing ash prime to eidolon

For what fucking purpose?

>>14354402

Trust not the ashfag, for he is stupid and quick to defend his husbando.

>>14354767

Why do you want 100% status so bad? Doesn't that weapon have a high fire rate? I think that 70-80 status chance is more than enough

>>14354807

Shotgun status calculation is special. Normally the status chance is divided between your pellets, but getting to 100% (before multishot mods are accounted for) breaks it and causes ever pellet to have 100% status and thus inflict a proc. For weapons like Tigris prime and the kohm, which deal slash, this becomes very effective.

>>14354807

So, the Kohm is a shotgun that fires multiple pellets at once, and this affects the way the game calculates status. Basically, if you have a shotgun that shoots 10 pellets, and it has a 40% status chance, that's the chance that at least one status occurs across all 10 pellets. So, in that example, that's a 40% chance that at least one pellet imparts a status, and a 60% chance that no pellet imparts a status. If you do the math, that ends up meaning that each pellet in that example has a 5% chance to impart a status.

At 99% status, this gun that fires 10 pellets will have each pellet with a 37% status chance. With 10 pellets at 37% each, there's a 1% chance all 10 fail to impart a status. So on average this weapon will cause 3.7 statuses per shot.

But 100% status? The only way to ensure that every shot imparts at least one status effect… is if every pellet imparts a status effect. And so at 100% status, each pellet has 100% status, and the weapon is delivering 10 statuses per shot.

This is why you see Tigris Prime always being built for 100% status. Get that gun to 100% status (before multishot), and suddenly you get so many slash procs that the enemy is covered in blood VFX and they die basically instantly. It's also extremely effective with corrosive procs, stripping off armor in instants due to the sheer volume of procs.

The Kohm, however, can't hit 100% status without a riven, and given how powerful a 100% status shottie is I was aiming for that. I did end up giving up and taking the crit one, though, and after testing it I'm pretty glad I did. My time to kill vs. a level 145 corrupted bombard barely went down at all, but the weapon will be much better with Kavat / Harrow buffs as well as vs. already armor stripped enemies, and considering I've been playing a lot of Mag who strips armor like it's going out of style that's a trade up. Still gonna keep fishing for that god riven with status and damage or multishot, though.

>>14354767

>>14354834

Can't you just use sobek instead? Last time I checked it was just better kohm.

Hey I've been playing for a bit now, if the infinity clans have some inactive members and could do with a new one I'd be down to join.

JasesCuckShack

>>14354122

Your frame looks like a fucking slut.

Did they fixed gunblades?

gib lanka build to kill ayys plz

>>14354402

I once had someone bring nyx prime with assimilate to ayys, literally kept it on the whole time and walked around trying to shoot the eidolon, it was..really autistic

>>14354345

Other anons have pointed our you're a moron for bringing Ash, but you're also a moron for bringing Amesha to tank anything. Bring Harrow instead, leave his duration at 100 for a good team or ~130 for a rando team. Cast 4 during the 6-wave rad nuke on limb break to absorb all that damage and protect everyone, and then it converts into a squad-wide crit chance buff in time to shoot the limbs. Don't have huge duration or it wont be over in time for the next rad nuke and you can't recast it while it's still active.

>>14356001

>cuck in username

Somehow I think you'll be looking for a while, and anyone who takes you in will be exactly as cancerous

>>14356341

do not bully nyx assimilate

>>14356438

but for ayys? really? he couldn't keep up

Did the nerf or change mining vein spawns in plains recently or something?

I used to just go to that big cave on the west coast next to that grineer base and get like 10 veins inside and then just circle the map clockwise and get a bunch more rocks in each cave near each landmark and a bunch in transit in between. Now it seems like there are only a couple spawning right around the entrance and I go around the entire edge of the map and visit all caves and there sensor thing never goes off

>>14355486

Sober deals impact not slash, so no.

>>14354834

Interesting, I'll try going full status with the Sobek and see what happens

>>14357985

It won't be as effective as you won't be dealing tons of slash procs, but it'll strip armor very effectively.

>>14357985

You can't reach 100% status on the Sobek unless you have a riven that adds either status or multishot. 99.9% is still not too shabby though

>>14358020

With the recent buff it can if you're willing to dedicate 5 slots to do so. 27% base status, 4x status + element mods push that to 91.8%, and then add in the Sobek exclusive Shattering Justice that adds +20% flat status chance to hit 100%.

It's kinda painful, but probably very effective.

>>14358052

I totally forgot about that augment.

>>14358020

I actually own a MR13 Sobek Riven. Gonna try some stuff with it and see what happens.

That being said, should I keep acid rounds ? It might be useful against low level bois but at sorties it might be just a meme mod

>>14358198

Acid Shells scales with health %, so it scales all the way into high levels as long as you can get 1 kill going to begin with.

>>14358207

>>14358198

Both acid shells and augment are optional slots. I use both, and I know because of it I don't do as much damage per shot, but it's fun.

>>14354402

>>14354651

>>14354409

You're all fucking retards. Ash has a purpose: playing with random fuckwits.

>Invisibility so Vombalysts ignore you and you can revive assholes who keep dying / eyydolon airstrike ignores you

>Can use 4th to clear 3-4 Vombalysts and insta-fill a lure

If I'm playing with competent friends, sure, I'll bring Volt or Rhino. But if I'm playing with randoms I got ensure that:

a)I can rez idiots before they run out of revives and D/C

b)I can clear Vombalysts when they pile up to 5 or 6

c)It doesn't fucking matter as long as you have a good weapon and a good amp.

I took Volt a couple of times, only 1/3 of the people remember to shoot through the Elec shield. And Rhino flat out doesn't work with randoms. +% damage on their crappy weapons still equals crappy damage.

>>14356419

And you are an extra sort of retarded.

I'll give you one point: Harrow's crti boost is god.

But Amesha can render your whole team AND the lures invulnerable to damage with her 1st ability, render ou immune to procs with her 3rd damage, flat out absorb the air strikes from the eyylodon with her 2 and slowdown Vombalysts with her 4.

It's essentially a flying Harrow with even more "fuck you, I don't feel like dying" that regens energy faster than Energy Syphon and let's you press E to go back to dealing damage as Volt/Chroma/Rhino.

Just got into it but now I'm out, Ceres-Jupiter junction is impossible. got pulled through the wall and one shot. Fuck this awful game.

>>14360997

Why didn't you one shot him?

>>14360997

What frames do you have?

>>14360982

>Invisibility so Vombalysts ignore you and you can revive assholes who keep dying / eyydolon airstrike ignores you

Eidolon has enough spam you should really be getting fucked either way

>Can use 4th to clear 3-4 Vombalyst

Get a shwaak prism.

>>14362120

>Get a shwaak prism.

That's the plan.

Until them I get to play Ash and do half of everything myself or play Harrow and babysit retards.

>>14362258

Have you just made a vow to never use recruiting channel or something?

>>14362283

Yes.

I get social anxiety from a chat box. Kill me.

>>14362381

While I commend you for assuming the logical way of approaching a game, skill and valor is not how you play Warframe. I went through the exact same bullshit as you before I realized that the game is about cheesing everything and crunching numbers.

Very first thing I did was build myself a Rhino, like you, and I just played through all the quests and missions I could. Got myself a Tigris to get the bare-minimum damage going, a Galatine with Cleaving Whirlwind to be of SOME help, (destroying lvl 150 infected starting out is no joke) and secondary was whatever. After getting my bearings and gaining more knowledge, I started fucking around in Nightmare missions, raids, derelicts and whatever. Get yourself the weapons I mentioned and you will be a solid newbie team-mate, then work up from there. If Rhino doesn't fit, make him fit screw your spy missions, I'm coming in dry.

Don't get too mad at dumb team-mates, because this shit is common. They're just clueless, and it's not even necessarily their fault. Lots of starting planets have this the worst. Keep retrying until you get a full team with high-level players to carry you. If that fails, you can always try recruit chat if you really want to kill him.

But the point to take away from all of this is that you can't play through the game with just skill, even if it gives you this impression. It's better to stay away from tough missions until you have some high-level mods boosting your damage.

>>14362517

I can confirm the Galantine part.

Huge turning point for me was when someone here on /v/ told me to drop the shit weapons I was using, and make it. And then gave me a list of mods for it.

I think it took 2 forma for it, and I had to farm a while for the mods. And the potato.

But hey, if that anon is lurking, big thanks. Completely changed the way I saw Warframe back then when I turned a Frost into a whirlwind of ice and death.

Tigris might be the easiest primary to build too, and with a pair like Tigris/Galantine any secondary is just for shits and giggles.

Remember to mod the damage types according to their weakness (check the wiki) but as a general rule:

>Puncture + Radiation/Corrosive for Grineer

>Impact + Magnetize/Electric for Corpus

>Slashing + Fire/Gas for Infested

And Corrupted are a mix, I'd either go with the Grineer or Corpus damage types because they're the most dangerous of them.

>>14362586

To add to your post; if you feel like you don't want to dedicate slots to race builds and want pure damage, you can just mod your blade for crits and corrosive. Compared to other statuses corrosive has no downsides apart from a damage reduction to Corpus, but a sizeable damage bonus to both Grineer and Infested.

any way to get back into 8ch clon

anyone have the link to that cringey 4 person stealth vidoe that they submitted where they used radios and shit

>>14362743

Nah full

>>14363055

That's what happens when you use PR yid as a model.

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/924333-dev-workshop-beam-weapons-revisited/

TL;DR

Status per second is ded.

Status per damage tick is back.

Ignis actually fires in a cone and not a fucking ball on a stick.

Beam weapons now need to spool up for a second to max power.

>>14363141

Did they just fucking nerf amprex?

>>14363355

>Did they just fucking nerf amprex?

It's damage went up by 20% after accounting for Point Strike and Vital Sense. (90% before those, but that's a misleading figure.)

It will actually be able to impart status effects at a good rate; with Split Chamber and two status/element mods it'll be at 11 corrosive procs per second, which is pretty fucking good.

But its range went down from 18m to 14m, which is brutal as fuck and probably outbalances the other two changes.

It's definitely not a straight nerf, but it's not exactly the buff we wanted. No word at all on if it still chains like it used to, either.

>>14364170

>No word at all on if it still chains like it used to, either.

I doubt they changed that, as there's no other primary that does that and people would throw an absolute shitfit over it.

>>14364475

>not rolling it for a crit damage base damage multishot roll

>not modding it for maximum radiation damage

>not grabbing an Adarza Kavat

>not playing Harrow

>not literally microwaving an ayydolon to death with a constant stream of 10x damage crits

What are you even doing with your life?

>>14364495

It had crit damage on it

But I didn't want to invest all that time and forma into shit in a meme build.

>>14364496

They're just gonna let the ayy into the rift but not let you time stop him. Meta solved.

>>14364552

Stasis doesn't even affect eidolon right now, it's the fact it can't sit in rift with you

>>14364719

Operators are also unafected by it.

So you can stay in the rift with your frame, pop out as operator and deal damage. Even if you die and go back to the rift, bombalysts can't do shit to you.

>>14364719

HOLY SHIT, I JUST REMEMBERED

That final part were all the vombalysts converge on the eyylodon.

With enough range mods, you can pop a giant-ass bubble around it and stop the Vombalysts from even going near him.

Also, quick question. How much damage are you guys dealing to the Eyy's Sinovia?

So far, I tried a Vectis Prime and I can multishoot two bullets for 1200 damage each.

Tried a paris prime and that's two arrows for 600 damage each. Honestly expected more.

Currently putting forma on an Opticor so I can try it aswell.

>>14364719

All warframe powers bypass rift status. In fact using a warframe power like Saryn's toxic lash or Frost's ice enchanting mod will cause weapons to hit regardless of rift status.

>>14364769

Why would you not put crit chance on those?

>>14364719

>on all levels except physical I am a frog

>ribbits

>>14364793

they always crit

>>14364793

Judging by his response, it's because he doesn't know how crit mechanics work.

>>14364933

>2 head-shots even on sortie 3.

>vectis p

Anon, vectis prime should one shot level 100 mobs, 150 with that riven, it's a god tier weapon.

Make it into radiation - replace hunter munitions with hellfire, and malignant force with storm bringer and see magic happens.

It would fuck both eidolons and regular mobs sideways.

Your riven is pretty good, though you don't need status chance on vectis.

Maybe roll it until you get crit+multishot+some negligible negative, like damage reduction against infested or some shit.

>>14364953

I'm talking about level 112 corrupted bombards with enhanced armour whilst I'm the only one with corrosive projection when I say sortie 3 (seriously, for fucks sake equip corrosive projection during armour sorties), but I'll take your suggestion on status mods.

>>14365052

Do you not have plains multishot mod? I don't remember the name, hunter something.

That thing is essential, put that instead of thermite rounds.

It will synergize with that riven as well.

>>14365093

vigilante armaments.

>>14365093

I just tried it.

If I don't get the extra bullet then it takes three shots.

It might build the combo faster, but I stick with thermite rounds for the consistency.

>>14365112

>>14365129

>split chamber is +90%

>riven is +60%

>vigilante armaments is +60%

>210% total

You're guaranteed to have 3 fucking bullets mate, whithout it you have 50% for 3rd bullet.

What consistency?

>>14365155

I just tested again in groups of five, and If I made sure to end the combo then with either build it would take 3-4 shots to kill a level 140 corrupted bombard.

I either forgot to kill the combo the first time or the RNG was having a giggle with me.

Once I have a combo it takes 1-2 head-shots, so with this in mind I'll take the extra multi-shot.

A-Am I a filthy minmaxing shitter now?

Polite sage

>>14365283

Yes.

All you need now is to roll that riven until it gets even better. Having 100%+ crit on vectis without losing multishot is your end game goal now.

what is best secondary when corinth exists?

>beam weapons rework

Is it time? Has the promised land returned to us?

>>14368863

shid someone already mentioned it, still, discuss further

>>14370493

>On a scale of 1-10 how worried/butthurt should I be about the beam changes?

You should be excited/10.

The Ignis Wraith got a significant damage buff and a significant range buff. Don't listen to the wiki, it was never a 40m range weapon (40m is the length of some of the biggest rooms in the game - the Ignis Wraith was not that long range), it was 20m before the change and is 27m range now. The lack of wall punchthrough is unfortunate, so it isn't the crate-clearer it once was, but as a weapon it is in a much better place now.

The Amprex, on the other hand, is now ridiculous. Everything about it got better. And they didn't nerf the range like they initially said they would. It's still a short range weapon, 18m, but if that's a thing you can stand it's now on steroids on all other departments. If you had a really good crit riven on it then you might not notice a damage increase, you'll probably just tread water, but if you had a non-crit riven its damage will go up by a good margin, and on top of that its status is fucking incredible with corrosive and with a good build it melts high level bombards like they're made of cotton candy.

Not everything made it out better - the Synoid Gammacor got a completely inexplicable damage nerf - but the vast majority of the beam changes are really solid.

>>14370493

Try mutalist cernos. You can easily get 100% status chance so that you can make a poison cloud that sticks to your enemies and procs gas. The cloud will continuously pop spores so you can build up more toxin procs pretty easily.

>>14348743

>>14348629

Why do you keep playing a game that you clearly hate?

>>14371634

I can't speak for those anons, but you don't have to hate something to criticize it. I think many anons here see a lot of potential in the game, but are continually disappointed by DE's refusal to rework old systems before adding new ones.

>>14371717

That's a good way of explaining it. Is there any real way to convince DE to polish and fix what's currently in the game? I suppose the micro transaction based funding makes that difficult.

>>14371855

They've gotten better recently, with the weapon and frame rebalancing, but ultimately no. Endlessly rolling out content, as bad as it may be, is the only way warframe has kept alive and the only way they can keep it alive.

>>14371634

Addiction

I'm on console and waiting for the weapon buffs still, so I have a request for PCanons

How's the Javlok doing? It's my favourite weapon/gimmic, but I've struggled with the fact that I can't realy take it to anything lvl80+, powercreep be damned.

According to the logs the Javlok got a 20something % buff to damage, which might be a game changer.

>>14372780

>Nyx Prime's ass is ok/10

fix'd

>>14373871

It got more damage and a little faster reload. Just use a frame with armor strip and you won't have problems at all, so something like seeking ash or link trinity.

>>14374007

>my main is chroma

Wew, you're gonna be doing even less damage now. Sorry buddy.

>>14376686

Some people think that scott made a new account and picked mag as starter, so he's making all these reworks because he's getting his ass kicked and learning the meta.

>>14376699

They confirmed shoahed the old changes, but are still determined to do something, so let's hope they are learning.

>>14376699

>muh slash nerf

Nah, that shit would be small time. Maybe if they nerf viral and corrosive along with it then yeah, that would be it.

>>14376789

It's less about slash becoming bad, and more about all those weapons currently surviving off HM going back to the trash bin.

>>14376817

Honestly the worst part was that they "buffed" the impact and puncture status and acted like that improved anything at all when it didn't actually do shit.

Slash probably should be toned down a bit, sure - but Impact and Puncture need way larger changes than what Damage 2.5 suggested.

>>14376835

That's also very true. Especially because impact would be an actual fucking detriment instead of buff.

Baro is here lads.

Primed Point Blank

Primed Pistol Gambit

Primed Fast Hands

Primed Ravage

Prisma Gorgon

Prisma Obex

Prisma Hecate Syandana

Prisma Naberus Arm Armor

Baro Kiteer Sekhara

Ki'teer Atmos Earpiece

Ki'teer Atmos Mask

Day Of The Dead Kavat Armor

Inaros Tomb Scene

3 Day Credit Booster

Sands Of Inaros

>>14379408

>prisma gorgon

>right after I got a riven for it and it got buffed

Oh boy.

>>14378543

Nigger detected.

>>14379896

Saryn main detected

>>14380103

Definitely primed point blank and ravage first, as they are straight upgrades. After that maybe prisma gorgon if you like dakka cause it got buffed and is worth it now, obex is top tier and has an augment that gives energy but the weapon has no range and uses sparring stances which are pretty janky. The bane mask is pretty situational as most people keep their hood closed and thus don't see it. Prisma naberus looks nice and so does the synandana.

>>14380177

the only stock hood I have is even uglier than the potato face

>>14380284

Better grind the plains or spend plat for a better one then goy.

>>14378543

fuck off bootscoot

>>14364875

>>14364793

Thanks for mocking me, I had to go summon Cthulu to learn about the crit mechanics

Anons, I have a request to ask.

Before raids go offline in about four or so days, I'd like to at least get that stupid shiny for doing The Law of Retribution Nightmare and The Jordas Verdict.

I know I'm asking for a lot seeing as the amount of people needed featuring actual skill and antiserum injectors are required, but I'm more than willing to tank the cost of at trying to host the raids.

I've tried going into recruit chat and dealt with absolutely retarded bullshit that makes me want to suck start a shotgun.

I just need about four to six people and an expected time frame to do this. I'm not capable of healing/mass energy restoration, but I can manage tanking and crowd control to an extent.

I just need to know what my role is and what you want of me. I and a friend are at least somewhat experienced with LoR especially with the whole WALK ONTO THE BUTTON bit of the second part and it shouldn't be too hard to sit back and shoot glowing buttons on the sides of Jordas while anons with actual skill take care of the internals.

I hope that a dedicated raid team is willing to give us a chance and I apologize for the blogpost.

>>14383610

I could help you through LoR, as it is the easier one in my opinion. I could tag along for jordas but I could not lead. Also, what frames do you hand your friends have? Rhino, nova, loki, volt, nekros, trinity, and vauban are used for raiding the most.

>>14383610

forgot to add, contact the raid school bus, they are a group made for this express purpose.

>>14383645

>>14383649

I'm sitting on a full set of prime frames with most potato'd and my friend mains Harrow, but has Ash Prime, Frost Prime, Inaros, Ivara, Octavia, Saryn Prime, and Zephyr.

Also, how do I contact the raid school bus?

>>14383665

I imagine harrow doing some work in both raids actually.

You contact them on disagreement.

>>14383671

>another meme filter

ffs

Just look it up

>>14383677

>first post on server

>We are a PC community.

I don't think I can keep my power level low enough around them.

>>14383716

Because consolefags were constantly trying to get on and it was pain in the ass to explain every time that drivers are not peasants?

I dunno, I don't see problem with, other than using normalfag spying software.

>>14383738

As in politically correct.

>>14383740

Oh yeah start throwing niggers around and you're out.

Duh.

>>14383752

It really doesn't help that I have a nickname Der Juden Gassinator for my anti-Corpus build.

>>14384571

>loki is broken piece of shit

Welcome to 2013

>>14384878

Are you tellin me, that a frame that can go invisible, take away everyone's guns (then make them fight each other like retards), move at incredible speeds, break mechanics by via teleportation and can piss off his team mates is broken?

Shit anon you're right lets nerf Ember again.

>>14384941

It's the Trinity problem all over again isint it?

Can someone give me a quick rundown of what the recent update did?

I know Banshee and Ember are now pretty much unusable but was there anything else? Did they change the way damage worked like I heard would happen?

Who is a good replacement for Ember etc?

>>14388043

damage 2.5 hasn't deployed, and in the last devstream they said that most of it was scrapped and they were trying new things from scratch.

Ember is still ok, good damage even at negative strength, but cut range stunts her cc and survivability

Am I crazy or did they add the unvault relics to the normal tables?

>>14388043

No damage changes, but beam weapons are the monsters they used to be

Banshee's quake isn't unusable, it's just not the same. It's basically a damage pulse now and not a toggle. Unaugmented quake is the same though.

Ember's 4 is absolute trash, don't touch. With max eff it consumes 5 energy per sec at full charge, and has halfed range. Use her for flash accelerant and nothing else.

Chroma got a slight nerf, still usable but not crazy.

Maim equinox is basically what you're gonna use instead of ember.

>>14388043

The most recent change for Ember is:

Fireball

Can now be held and charged for additional damage. Upon impact, Fireball will leave behind a Napalm-like flame that damages enemies.

Fire Blast

Will now add heat damage to weapons that fire through it (for allies).

World On Fire

5 seconds after casting, a percentage will begin counting up on the ability icon. As this percentage scales from 0% to 100% over 10 seconds, the ability’s energy cost and damage dealt both grow to double, while the ability radius shrinks to half.

Most recent change for Banshee is:

Resonating Quake (Augment)

Although still a singular cast allowing free movement, Resonating Quake will only hit enemies once as it expands outward.

Other then these changes I have no idea what you're talking about with "pretty much unusable" or "change the way damage worked".

>Who is a good replacement for Ember etc?

Depends what you want. Lots of Warframes out there.

>>14388043

>Who is a good replacement for Ember etc?

If you want to replace WoF just go with maim Equinox

>>14388589

If you're modding for the primary then drop Jolt for Convulsion. The weapon has 5% base status, you aren't getting jack out of +60% additional status. And if you're modding for the secondary then, well, you screwed up basically everything so there's not much to say. Sadly Euphona Prime is one of those weapons that really demands two different builds for the two different firing modes and you just aren't going to get a good medium between them.

Seeker I understand for normal content, but vs. an Eidolon I would absolutely drop it for either Deep Freeze or Augur Pact.

>>14388589

For mesa stat stick, you need corrosive or high level enemies just will not die. You can just drop out heated charge for electricity though. I'd make a build slot for eidolon and one for mesa. Also seeker does nothing for you in either case so drop it.

Also daggers don't matter. Rakta is the best, but that is not saying much as they are all just CL stick. You could make a zaw dagger though, those are good, but that would require you to make a zaw which is not fun.

Honest question: should one run status / element or 90% status mods on their Pandero?

I get that status / element mods are absurdly effecitve, but post-change the Pandero is sitting on 10% base status chance, and it's primarily just a hand cannon style secondary. You do not want to be shooting a target multiple times to build up Corrosive status.

>>14388869

I think you answered your own question.

>>14388632

nah I hear you on that part; I was running convulsion + heated for eidolons earlier, I need to put more forma if I want to do the same with the new primed pistol mods I just got from baro now. Also I can't max those yet because ad you can probably see; I don't have credits to do so. I'll get around to maxing that stuff eventually, and probably put back on convulsion over jolt once I have the modspace. I built thing thing mainly for eidolons but noticed as I was putting on the new primed mods (and having to swap out convulsion due to space) that it might be decent with mesa.

>>14388647

Interesting, I'll keep that in mind, swap rad for corrosive, max damage (pathogen/convulsion), use as alt build for mesa stick rather than the standard radiation eidolon one.

I still feel like seeker is necesarry for 'general use' of euphona. the magazine size is otherwise just too small to deal with hordes (void proc on euphona makes it an absolutely joy to use). And hordes DO cluster, so punch through is pretty helpful in thinning them out.

I don't really care about daggers that much, was just wondering if it was a noteworthy upgrade to the dark dagger. I basically only use ash for spy missions at this point in time, it's kind of fun to 3 and do silly amounts of damage to a patrolling guy before you go hack the console but it's not really 'that necessary'

On a tangential note; Is Ash more viable for general purpose stuff since the latest rework? He used to be one of my 'old draco' mainstays with old 4, but like, since they changed that; as I mentioned, I really just used him for spy missions because he has a cloak and I didn't have a loki prime back them (I technically have one now, but he's still sitting in foundry waiting to be claimed while I'm finishing off leveling some fodder and farming for various 'last pieces' of something I want to build)

>>14389311

Ash is pretty good now. You just point at an enemy you want dead, then fuck off to do other shit while your clones do the work.

>>14389733

>Unix filename

>scat

?

>>14373871

>I'm on console

Why, it's not like the game requires a powerful rig I used to run it on my old potato on near full settings just fine.

>>14389733

There a source to those thicc frames or is this the original?

Trinity is the new ember

Please nerf

https://www.strawpoll.me/15146557/

pick best girl

>>14390880

>Nehza

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Nezha

>The Warframe's androgynous appearance is a nod to the deity's youthful appearance, which belied his reputation as a trickster. To clear out any confusion regarding this, Digital Extremes has stated that the Warframe is male.

Traps are still gay, even if they're cute

>>14390943

>>14390831

>>14390978

I haven't played Warframe in ages, who's Nezha?

>>14390993

yeah but lewds where

>>14390993

But Volt was the designated gay frame, why'd they make one even gayer?

>>14348704

was that the only boobmistake?

>>14390588

Looks better than in my craptop. Gameplay is alright. It's also free, no need for PSN+ like every other online game

I still have only excalibur and another shitty frame

what do I farm now

Are any of the Wraith weapon variants worth keeping after getting the MR from them? After just getting to 30 on the Twin Vipers Wraith, I'm not sure if I'm ready to start that type of punishment again

>>14391366

Whatever your heart desires. Unlock planets first, each boss drops parts for a frame and sometimes weapons too

>>14391377

All the wraiths are better than the regulars so I'd treat them like prime. Don't delet unless you're really plat starved.

>>14391377

Ignis is undeniably great, gorgon is okay but not when baro is whipping his prisma dick out, vulkar is decent and strun can be used if you're into that kind of weird shit.

Everything else is just shit because the base weapons are shit. At least past Jupiter and without rivens, but let's be fucking honest here, what kind of a person would willingly try to make vipers or karak usable?

So are Tenno good guys, bad guys or not the worst guys?

>>14391490

Tenno are just child soldiers led by Lotus or Ordis after spoilers happen

They're a neutral armed force that does things for whoever pays the most.

>>14391490

Ugly space kids who shot up not just their school, but entire humanity.

>>14391514

Also Lotus is a bitch and fucks with Grineers for no reason. Tyl Regor wants to cure Grineers of their degeneracy? Nooo, not allowed. Grineers want to do some archeology to learn stuff? Fuck you, Grineers. Corpus had stolen some Tenno and wants to diddle them, should we save them? B-but if we do, we will miss out on the chance to fuck with Grineers some more, what a dilemma! And we should totally ask the Corpus kiddie diddler for help and promise him favors in return so we can fuck with Grineers yet again!

>>14391514

>>14391557

We need to genocide the Tenno to save the Warframes from their ugly grasp.

>>14391557

I mean, the thing with shooting up humanity is that Lotus is a fucking sentient that got played by Ballas like a fucking fiddle and Ballas is pretty much senator Armstrong who basically orchestrated Sentients and Infestation as an attempt to shift the stagnant Orokin society

And Grineers do deserve to get shafted from an overall perspective for a selection of reasons. One is that they're quite literally underbaked Dax soldiers led by orokin nobility with everything that comes bundled in, another is that they're literal fucking shitstains on the system who are too busy obliterating everything that isn't a near-decomposing grineer clone. Dealing with Corpus is easier since those are at least actual humans and not walking cancer as proven by Ergo Glast.

On another hand, sure, some decisions are retarded but at the same time they kinda make sense. Fucking with Regor in regards to both his excavation and the whole cloning shebang is better for the system because excavation unearthed FUCKING HUNHOW of all things and his fixed clones would mean that grineer would get an even better foothold on the system. I still think Tyl did nothing wrong. He deserves at least more screentime.

>gradivus dilemma

You do realize that one was entirely player-driven, right? It's retarded as hell, but it's still to blame on players, not

>Alad V's favors

Considering the circumstances of the Second Dream, Alad's help was more important. Especially since he never got to cash that favor in due to consequences of his warframe research. He had it coming though, what with him being an Orokin.

>>14391588

Give them to Grineers, at least they weren't trying to turn them into giant dogs, unlike Space Kikes.

>>14391604

*still to blame on players, not on Lotus/anyone else

Fucking forgot to finish that sentence.

>>14391604

>You do realize that one was entirely player-driven, right?

No, dilemma itself was presented by Lotus/devs. Players chose to support Grineer, which is the most logical course of action anyway.

>>14391630

The whole thing was basically

>fuck with grineer to prevent grineer from putting their cancerous little mitts on more shit but lose frames to salad bowl's little gestapo

>fuck with corpus to prevent loss of potential units at expense of grineer getting to rape and pillage a settlement on Mars

Both choices are fucking retarded, but losing a 10-100 potential frames beats the everloving fuck out of causing death of thousands of people. I'm guessing that DE actually expected people to fuck with Grineer here because needs of many yada yada, but since playerbase is retarded and likes clem memes too much we got what we've got.

>>14392605

I'd drop armored agility, as it doesn't add that much armor and nidus can always just link an enemy and become near immortal. That said there's basically two build I use, one is high range neutral eff, and the other is low eff and high strength. If you want to use low efficiency, you really should use flow so you can hold more energy and won't get caught with your pants down like you were describing. So I'd put transient fortitude in armored agility's slot and then primed flow in your last one.

>>14392743

S&A can use either crit, status, or hybrid. And you're right that by going hybrid you lose out on a little of both, but it works well cause you get high damage and armor strip. I'd ditch avenging truth, as the augment doesn't really add much to the weapon, and with life strike and nidus you really don't need the healing proc. And you really want corrosive, blast is pretty garbage against armor. Also why use focus energy? Cause of life strike? you don't need the efficiency that much but if you really want it leave it I guess. So basically put something like CO if you have it in avenging truth's slot, or maybe something like primed reach or gladiator might if you don't. You definitely want to eventually put CO on it though, as it has good status.

>>14392877

You always want berserker. By attacking faster you do more DPS and more status procs in a shorter window, and cause melee has no ammo there is literally no downside. Think of it as a straight damage upgrade. Also just stick with fire and corrosive, blast is not worth it. Blast may give CC but fire does as well with a little DoT thrown in. And I prefer fire's CC effect to blast's knockdown, and it save you a mod slot.

Putting intensify instead of transient fortitude is fine, that's a personal preference type of thing so go for it. Not like you really need the extra strength unless you really want to buff an ally. But it's always better to go with primed flow instead of eff for build with high strength like chroma or nidus, especially because you get energy so easy with rage. And you get less energy from stomps with more eff, so it's really not worth it to ever add eff on nidus. I'd highly recommend flow.

Any of you have a fully built phage? I heard it was great after the rework and I'm leveling it now, but I feel it would be better to just use synapse. the gimmick is kinda lame and it runs out of ammo. Is it worth it for the sheer DPS? Or just make a synapse?

>>14393070

I think that the synapse is the best way to go since the damage and ammo efficiency looks better. That being said, I like a lot more how the Phage looks and shoots

It's been a while since i played, can you go solo in the plains of eidolon or do you need to have/ queue for a squad to go?

>>14394016

You can do it completely solo, that's how I played the whole thing and farmed everything, having to worry about gaylords wanting to leave early is a pain

>>14394040

That's the type of thing i was trying to avoid (and i just wanted to explore the map at first before doing any missions).

But when i got into the poe, even though i had my game set to solo i got thrown into a squad, i thought that the mode required you to have a team so i just gave up on the game for a time, but i might get back into to it now.

>>14394188

You can go solo.

But after doing a lot of solo missions myself, I switched to public and have been doing all my bounties like that. Most people have teh decency of extracting after the mission is done. I only go solo for random grinding for fish/mining/shards.

>>14394587

>Most people have teh decency of extracting after the mission is done.

Here's a tip for you - if people won't extract, you can just hit escape and select "Leave Party". That will put you into a solo instance with all progress maintained, which you can then leave easily. You do have to go through a host migration, so I don't always do it, but if it's a bunch of slow-asses and I'm the only one at extraction I'll leave the party and it speeds it up a lot.

>>14394610

You can solo extract now? When was that changed?

>>14392996

>mumble

what year is it

>>14391020

volt is the boitoi frame

>>14397659

Volt is tacticool.

>Deployable cover

>Mobility options

>Can be modded for CC, bunkering down for extended gunfights, or speeding through areas with nunchucks and a shock aura.

>>14397659

no

volt has his anal virginity intact

>>14399256

I'd roll. Hopefully you get something like +damage +electric/toxin so you can replace a dual stat. And for twin grakatas the dual stats will be better cause the status proc will outweigh the extra damage.

>>14350612

>>14348505

>>14350648

Do you have bloom turned off?

>>14399452

That's kind of old news, but welcome to the master race.

>>14350625

But mag does have big fut ugly flabby ass.

"No ass" means no beautiful ass.

>>14402904

Read wiki or something.

>>14402904

Farm Eidolons, the shards are worth 25k focus and up

>>14402963

I've been getting that shit again pretty much since I finished the Ballas quest but haven't been quick enough to screenshot it

>>14403628

its just a skin and yet another excal helmet

>>14391604

>Especially since he never got to cash that favor

He did actually, but that was in an event that happened over a year ago. The entire Alad V storyline is a fucking mess because of this shit, him turning infested is supposed to happen before Second Dream.

>>14380103

>those earrings hanging in air

Sasuga DE