76cedb No.14308140
Who's down for Throne of Britannia April next year?
Look like Attila but with more personal general development and historical contents.
5847a6 No.14308408
ed126b No.14308782
>>14308140
Why wouldn't I just play Medieval 2's Britannia campaign again? Also I don't like the idea of indirectly supporting a charity that I dislike.
35c8cb No.14309043
>>14308140
>tw saga
Isn't that some mobile shit? What the fuck is that?
c1380c No.14309057
>>14309043
its the way to release the game more often than call of duty
35c8cb No.14309091
>>14309057
And some retards actually buy them. Fuck.
29202f No.14309114
>>14308140
>20% of profits go to SJWs
OP is a nigger.
068859 No.14309122
>>14308140
>It's Attila shill again
>He's shilling CA's latest cash grab again
Go away.
29202f No.14309159
CA being all like
>Its the same game again
>$50 plox
76cedb No.14309165
>>14308782
MTW2 britannia campaign is way after this game though i.e. after Hastings.
76cedb No.14309168
>>14309159
>>14309114
>>14309122
Please don't be butthurt.
This game is aimed at the historical crowd.
36fa2a No.14309182
burnt out on stainless steel. any other good mods to play?
068859 No.14309183
>>14309168
>Historical crowd
>With token sstonk womyn units to appease feminists
Go away. Also dubs thread.
CHECK 'EM
29202f No.14309190
>>14309182
Deus Lu Vult is good. I like the RPG mechanics and that the textures look a bit more authentic medieval compared to Stainless Steel, lots of bright colours and heraldry on the textures.
76cedb No.14309193
>>14309183
>implying
Has they even confirmed any female units yet?
And the women units aren't even strong in Rome 2.
068859 No.14309198
>>14309193
They exist and that already tells us enough about what sort of people CA are.
CHECK 'EM
36fa2a No.14309199
>>14309190
thanks, gonna try it now
76cedb No.14309207
>>14309198
You have bitched about that in every TW threads, it gets old bucko.
I'm sure there are some she-elves units in Warhammer 2, and there's a woman faction leader in Empires Divided, yet nobody complain because it does fit with history/lore.
Like if they make Middle earth TW, you are going to throw shitfit about the inevitable Eowyin hero unit?
29202f No.14309215
>>14309207
>Like if they make Middle earth TW, you are going to throw shitfit about the inevitable Eowyin hero unit?
Why would they fucking bother when Third Age exists and would be 1000x better than anything CA could do.
Can you tell your co-workers they're all worthless niggers please. I've seen the photos, also tell the girls their purple hair looks like they dyed it in toilet cleaner. Thanks. Faggot.
068859 No.14309217
76cedb No.14309219
>>14309215
Third age mod has Eowyn too, m8.
>Can you tell your co-workers they're all worthless niggers please. I've seen the photos, also tell the girls their purple hair looks like they dyed it in toilet cleaner. Thanks. Faggot.
Show it bitch boi.
CA is located in a small white town in southern England.
068859 No.14309227
>>14309219
>more meme spacing
Just fuck off.
76cedb No.14309232
>>14309227
No, fuck you nigger.
We will have a TW thread here.
068859 No.14309236
>>14309232
No you won't CA shill. Takes your shitty SJW game to reddit, I'm sure they'll love it there.
29202f No.14309238
>>14309219
Proof. Now fuck off SJW.
068859 No.14309243
>>14309238
>no sage
Step it up senpai!
76cedb No.14309255
>>14309238
I see only 2 SJW in that picture.
Try harder.
62fe17 No.14309443
I really want to enjoy Napoleon but the nature of it just makes me frustrated as fuck. France kills everything. Period. The entire thing is completely railroaded. There is no point to playing any other nation besides Britain & Spain because you just get absolutely smashed otherwise. No matter how good you are, they will just absolutely swarm you in numbers with those 500-men line infantry troops.
068859 No.14309460
>>14309443
>shill hops IP
>makes generic post to keep the thread bumped
Just fuck off already.
76cedb No.14309467
>>14309460
It's not me honest.
0aa4c0 No.14309492
>>14308140
There haven't been a good Total War game in over a decade. The last one that was semi-passable was Medieval 2 and it too had a shit-ton of problems on its own. The series is dead. Throne of Britannia is just a cheap cash grab and nothing more. Warhammer is an irredeemable pile of shit and Three Kingdoms screams we want the Chink audience pretty hard. Give it a rest already and play some older titles.
62fe17 No.14309503
>>14309460
What? How did I trigger you by literally talking about Total War in the Total War thread?
76cedb No.14309506
>>14309492
Shogun 2, Attila and Warhammer are legit great games though.
5dd0c9 No.14309520
>>14309506
Shogun 2 was a decent game in itself, but a bad Total War title.
The other two are probably in a similar as well.
>>14309443
Napoleon would have been great if you had more freedom in it and larger campaign map.
It's really a shame because I love the period but my choices are either that or Empire.
808514 No.14309526
>>14309506
Awsome, well this game is like them, but with less units, no tech tree and a brand new recruitment system that is based on RNG, so im sure you want to pre order it!!!
76cedb No.14309538
>>14309526
Sound like a new kind of thing, the warband system sounds actually nice, organically-growing army.
76cedb No.14309543
>>14309520
Attila is closer to a Medieval 3 while Warhammer is close to Warhammer than actual TW titles considering they focus more on battles, heroes, faction differences than civilization building.
f1d4f5 No.14309544
>>14308140
>Look like Attila but with more personal general development and historical contents.
sounds good, all I needed from my TW is for it to look more like CK2
>April next year?
fug
76cedb No.14309545
>>14309544
It's April this year sorry.
5dd0c9 No.14309549
>>14309543
>Attila is closer to a Medieval 3
I may not have played it, but I've seen enough of it to know that this is not true.
And I don't need a Medieval 3. I need a good game that doesn't have awful things like teching, limited build slots in cities and generals who level up.
But that's the staple now, so it's not happening.
76cedb No.14309556
>>14309549
People are already making Medieval 3 mod for Attila, so it's actually sorta true.
>I need a good game that doesn't have awful things like teching, limited build slots in cities and generals who level up.
Medieval 2 has generals who level up though.
5dd0c9 No.14309568
>>14309556
The two systems are hardly similar.
You get stat increases/decreases from traits, but you don't get to pick what they receive.
Command, which only improves morale, is increased by winning, but that's about it. You don't get things like "+5 damage for swordsmen" and "+20 cavalry charge."
>People are already making Medieval 3 mod for Attila, so it's actually sorta true
It can only ever be a reskin, but fair enough.
2e8ea5 No.14309571
>>14309556
>tfw generals traits have been shit since Medieval II
Seriously, all I want is a logical yet semi-random development of traits that come as a result of my characters actions, not this "you hit level 2, so now choose between +10% archer ammo or +1 morale when fighting faction X"
808514 No.14309576
>>14309538
It sounds like bad design, the old total wars had a man power pool, now when you recruit a unit it rolls a dice to see if you can recruit it next turn.
a734c8 No.14309578
>>14309506
>attila
>legit great game
76cedb No.14309587
>>14309568
>>14309571
The new upgrade system just makes more sense and gives you more control over your general.
I mean, why wouldn't a general who has a missile specialization have better missile troops than a cavalry general?
That trait is still randomized though.
>>14309578
It is though.
76cedb No.14309598
>>14309576
Sound more like RNG, which is up this guy's alley: >>14309571
6a7936 No.14309617
I wish I had more hard disk space so I could put Shogun 2, Medieval 2, Napoleon, Empire, and Rome 1 back on my computer without deleting my grand strategy games.
5dd0c9 No.14309651
>>14309587
Because it makes no sense for you, the player, to be able to intervene with their lives to the extent that you get to pick exactly who and what they are going to be.
The whole point of the traits system was to simulate some semblance of human behaviour so they could still develop on their own even if not active and the idea that arrows shot by the archers of one general do more damage than the exact same unit under the command of another is absurd.
A 60 year old general is going to have many more traits and retinue members than one who is 20 but their units are going to perform in the same way, with the exception of morale which may be increased or decreased.
The 60 year old might become a hardcore cuckold from spending decades in a degenerate huge city and faint at the sight of blood, while the 20 year old might turn out to be a military genius who likes to get merry with his troops.
One is going to have severe morale penalties, while the other will have bonuses.
It's not a matter of racking up "experience," but what kind of a person they are. It's about as random as humans are random.
This should not need an explanation.
>>14309598
Medieval 2 and Rome 1 had limited manpower and not RNG.
If you wanted more and better spearmen from a specific castle, you'd build a higher tier barracks.
Not "research" some ridiculous "technology" or rely on dice rolls.
fa0360 No.14309661
>>14308140
Wow, the screenshot is just rich enough to identify tons of things about the game.
>Units are self-replenishing like Rome 2
>Three trait system for generals that unlocks abilities and grants army buffs is back from Rome 2
>Generals have influence, just like Rome 2
>Legion system from Rome 2 is back, renamed to followers, so your "legions" level up and you put the points into "followers" instead of legion traits
>Province system from Rome 2 is back
>Button for tech tree in minimap, just like Rome 2
>Arbitrary food value like in Rome 2
>Armies have generals tied to them as in Rome 2 as opposed to being able to bring multiple generals or have armies lead by captains
>Game is already not functioning, because it lists the general's total bonus to having children as +20%, but he receives +20% from being handsome and +20% from having a beautiful wife
I hope you faggots who were jerking off about how this was going to be the "return to Medievail 2" feel pretty told right now. It's literally a Rome 2 reskin. This one screenshot has everything you need to know, except what the three agents (one for each of the 3 stats) are going to be named this time around.
07b349 No.14309665
>>14309571
>mfw generals could change the outcome of a battle if used
>mfw they're just bland army stat units.
e49df7 No.14309673
They used BCE/CE speak so ill never give them any of my money
29202f No.14309729
>>14309711
you missed a few at the back kek.
36fa2a No.14309738
>>14309711
you missed two of the women. maybe four, but i can't tell if the other two are feminine dudes or women.
also, i think you missed a pajeet in the back.
76cedb No.14309745
>>14309651
It does make sense.
You are the king, you command the generals to get better.
>and the idea that arrows shot by the archers of one general do more damage than the exact same unit under the command of another is absurd.
Why not? The better trained missile units shoot more accurate and thus do more damages to the enemies.
>It's not a matter of racking up "experience," but what kind of a person they are. It's about as random as humans are random.
But it's absolutely about experiences, the more battle-harden a general, the better he is.
>It's not a matter of racking up "experience," but what kind of a person they are. It's about as random as humans are random.
Thought you like the RNG?
>Not "research" some ridiculous "technology" or rely on dice rolls.
Why are technology ridiculous? Don't we actually have researchers in real life doing that shit? And the technology does unlock higher tier barrack.
76cedb No.14309749
>>14309665
But generals still change the outcome of combat in Attila.
One well-placed fear attack will rout the enemy center.
76cedb No.14309756
>>14309661
The game is going to going to be more like Attila except it's more personal with more general traits.
cedb42 No.14309768
>playing any total war after shogun 2
this has to be a paid shill right? or are you so pathetic you do it for free?
76cedb No.14309770
>>14309768
But Attila and Warhammer games are good?
cedb42 No.14309778
>>14309770
No, you just have shit taste because you were dropped too many times, it's time to kill yourself my man.
76cedb No.14309781
>>14309778
>>14309774
Yes, yes they are though.
Particularly Warhammer.
cedb42 No.14309790
>>14309781
So you are doing it for free, sad!
76cedb No.14309792
>>14309673
It's a game about chinese pagans, man.
>>14309790
I just like strategy games, man.
e49df7 No.14309795
>>14309792
>It's a game about chinese pagans, man.
Yeah bro use CE for other cultures be inclusive
ITS AD YOU FUCKING NIGGER WHORE
cedb42 No.14309800
>>14309792
No you don't shill, or you wouldn't like trash like new total war, a series popular among people who like shit like dawn of war 3 and mobas
2e8ea5 No.14309802
>>14309587
>>14309598
>logical yet semi-random development of traits that come as a result of my characters actions
>RNG
And before you claim that "semi-random" means I want it to be a total roll of the dice, it's more than apparent that skills and traits should come as the result of actions, not "levels".
>The new upgrade system just makes more sense and gives you more control over your general.
Congratulations on leveling up Theodoric here, enjoy your mandatory +1 Zeal! What's that, you don't want extra Zeal? Too fucking bad, you chose to play Visigoths so EVERY. SINGLE. GENERAL you ever level will have to take this skill. Actually, just to compare, let's look at how each game does General skills/traits
<Modern TW
>nearly all generals start as mostly blank slates, with maybe a trait or two
>general reaches arbitrary level of experience
>levels up
>general is then allocated a couple of upgrade points
>these points must be spent in a narrow upgrade tree, often full of bottlenecks and prerequisite skills
>general actions have no influence on this whatsoever, a general who wins every battle through frontal infantry charges can take "cunning" traits
<Rome/Medieval II era TW
>generals gain traits passively and as the result of actions
>generals start with a host of traits, usually influenced by their family or place of birth
>traits that come in this fashion generally give a path for each new general (the newest son of my faction leader has traits that make him a horrible city manager but many good ones for command, thus I will focus his actions on campaigns)
>traits are awarded based upon actions (this general won a battle through the use of cavalry, thus gaining the "Commander of Cavalry" trait)
>>14309745
>>14309749
>>14309756
>responding to each post with a separate post
Please fuck off to cuckchan where you belong. We will be happier, and you will be happier.
76cedb No.14309807
>>14309795
Nazi Germany used BCE/CE.
>>14309800
>a series popular among people who like shit like dawn of war 3 and mobas
Proof?
e49df7 No.14309811
>>14309807
They were wrong to do so if they did now kill yourself whore
76cedb No.14309814
>>14309802
The general traits in Attila's skill trees mostly just reduce troop upkeep and recruitment cost and increase morale, the actual +5 attack shits are genetic traits and are gained randomly from birth or combat.
>And before you claim that "semi-random" means I want it to be a total roll of the dice, it's more than apparent that skills and traits should come as the result of actions, not "levels".
Skills should come from experiences i.e. levels.
Traits can be from random, but skills should not be.
76cedb No.14309816
>>14309811
Wouldn't say so unless you LARP as a christian everywhere you go.
e49df7 No.14309821
>>14309816
GO AND DIE YOU AIDS WHORE
76cedb No.14309822
>>14309821
This gets heated real fast man.
e49df7 No.14309823
>>14309822
DROWN YOURSELF IN SEMEN WHORE
76cedb No.14309834
Why can't we have just a peaceful TW thread?
e49df7 No.14309839
>>14309834
>(27)
Go back to your 9 shitskins and 25 womyn TW shill
76cedb No.14309842
>>14309839
Still whiter than most western devs, baring the russian ones.
29202f No.14309857
>>14309842
> baring the russian ones.
russians aren't white they're red faggot everyone knows that.
fa0360 No.14309858
>>14309756
>The game is going to going to be more like Attila except it's more personal with more general traits.
Cool but I'm looking at the Rome 2 screenshot. You're welcome to post the Attila screenshot, but it doesn't remove anything from the Rome 2 screenshot.
>>14309814
>Skills should come from experiences i.e. levels.
No, skills should come from experience via usage. There is absolutely no valid reason that you should be able to build a general who specializes in cavalry warfare when he's went from the beginning of the game to the end of his career commanding militia because you haven't unlocked good cavalry yet and didn't want to waste money making trash cavalry. You should never be able to hand off a stack of high-tier cavalry to a complete cavalry nobody who already has every advancement with cavalry.
If they really, really want skill trees to work, then they need to accept that they need to track maybe 5 different experience values, and have skills be purchased with experience points as opposed to levels. They need to go old tabletop RPG as opposed to modern RPG.
2e8ea5 No.14309861
>>14309814
>The general traits in Attila's skill trees mostly just reduce troop upkeep and recruitment cost and increase morale
…and?
>Skills should come from experiences i.e. levels.
Skills should come from experiences i.e. things the general has experienced and done. Now fuck off.
d76c63 No.14309877
d76c63 No.14309880
>>14309877
>>14309861
What happens if I get dubs?
fc90e1 No.14309881
76cedb No.14309882
>>14309861
>…and?
It means every skills that everybody can learn.
>Skills should come from experiences i.e. things the general has experienced and done. Now fuck off.
But it does come from what the generals have done i.e. battling the enemy + governing the province.
fc90e1 No.14309884
>>14309881
fuck my ass with a stick dude
2e8ea5 No.14309891
>>14309877
>>14309866
>both get dubs
>on a roll chart that doesn't have dubs listed
Tough luck anons.
76cedb No.14309901
>>14309858
>Cool but I'm looking at the Rome 2 screenshot. You're welcome to post the Attila screenshot, but it doesn't remove anything from the Rome 2 screenshot.
You can play it then find out.
> There is absolutely no valid reason that you should be able to build a general who specializes in cavalry warfare when he's went from the beginning of the game to the end of his career commanding militia because you haven't unlocked good cavalry yet and didn't want to waste money making trash cavalry.
It comes from 2 things:
1. The innate of your general.
2. It comes from experiences gained in the battlefield, you can allocate said experience to reduce the upkeep of cavalry units and increase the charge bonus.
Still, the major of cavalry general still comes from the trait either innate or gained in combat, not through the general skill you can buy.
67c182 No.14309908
e49df7 No.14309919
76cedb No.14309921
>>14309912
Please just leave poor TW threads alone.
e49df7 No.14309927
>>14309919
>green granny witches
29202f No.14309928
>>14309901
>reduce the upkeep of cavalry units
>Hello I've decided to pay you less sir knight
>what! this is bullshit what the fuck!
>I'm a level 10 general in Upkeep management
>Oh… well ok then.
6f48a0 No.14309930
76cedb No.14309931
>>14309928
It's interpreted that an experienced general will allocate budget much more effectively than an inexperienced general.
e49df7 No.14309932
>>14309921
>poor TW thread
NINE SHITSKINS AND TWENTY FIVE WOMYN
COMMON ERA COMMON ERA
UNLOCK THESE FACTIONS ALREADY IN THE GAME WITH YOUR… CREDIT CARD
LOOK WE MADE THE SAME GAME BUY IT AGAIN
6f48a0 No.14309934
>>14309930
exactly my fetish
76cedb No.14309937
>>14309932
I find it funny people complaining TW games change too much yet they are also the same games.
e49df7 No.14309941
>>14309937
>make good games
>change it completly into cancer trash
>keep making cancer trash
WOW SO FUNNY
76cedb No.14309942
>>14309941
It's kinda arbitrary, don't you think?
29202f No.14309944
>>14309931
if that were the case why aren't generals budgets simulated like in Crusader Kings. You could easily do this, by allowing Generals to accumulate a wage and then have your individual units take their upkeep from that wage, the General's skills have nothing to do with upkeep reduction, rather the general would request a higher wage as a result of being more skilled. See Crusader Kings for example of how to do it properly. CA just suck.
e49df7 No.14309946
>>14309942
Drown yourself in semen nigger whore
67c182 No.14309947
>>14309908 is me
I hit the fucking jackpot, but 89 just made me sad. :(
76cedb No.14309951
>>14309944
I wouldn't say Crusader Kings are more accurate than TW in term of budgeting and finances.
19d4ba No.14309987
>>14309937
>don't improve formula
>don't fix glaring issues that have been around since Shogun 1
>every change introduced is for the worse
>nickle and dime costumers with DLC practices that would make EA blush
>shills wonders why people tell him to fuck off
And this is how Jews end in the gas chamber.
15d570 No.14310000
>>14308140
Why would anyone even care about a shitty commie island?
5dd0c9 No.14310043
>>14309861
Rolling for 50.
76cedb No.14310098
>>14309987
Really don't think CA DLC practices are as bad as EA man, there are no season passes.
>>14310000
You get to invade it with vikingr.
19d4ba No.14310105
>>14310098
>let's make Chaos a DLC faction
>the goyim will love it
You and your family will go into the gas chamber eventually.
76cedb No.14310112
>>14310105
It's a pre-order faction actually.
7a0e01 No.14310115
>>14309951
>complex system which is all about the different buildings in holdings, different holding types, relation with vassals, and your government's effectiveness at governing
>complex system where you build stuff which gives you a standard +x amount of gold every turn forever, sometimes has a dick come along and lower your income for 1 turn
Truly I can tell TW has the most complex financial system ever :^)
>>14309861
rollan
7a0e01 No.14310118
>>14310115
>15
God has punished me for my shitposting
76cedb No.14310122
>>14310115
TW's income more about tax, trade and happiness level.
It's not pretty hard but it does make sense.
7a0e01 No.14310137
>>14310122
See now you must be getting confused because 3 things doesn't make a complex financial system. CK2 has a pretty shitty system but it still takes into account all those things you said including disease, raiders, bandits, extensive trade routes, and of course having 3 distinct economic systems depending on what style of government you're playing. TW was about balancing your budget until you had enough gold to literally beat people to death with it, don't try and be a shifty salesman you fucker.
76cedb No.14310161
>>14310137
It does make it complex on how to balance these parameters in order to get the most gold possible.
> but it still takes into account all those things you said including disease, raiders, bandits, extensive trade routes
Also in TW games, in fact they are the tax, happiness and income parts of the game.
7a0e01 No.14310176
>>14310161
>low happiness
>have rebels pop up
>murder rebels
>happy province
Complex management system
5dd0c9 No.14310177
>>14310167
To be fair, that's only possible in the warscape games.
864133 No.14310188
76cedb No.14310203
>>14310167
That changes nothing though.
>>14310176
Actually if you kill the rebels right away, the populace will end up right back to hating you.
76cedb No.14310221
>>14310210
It's real, just that it changes nothing.
7a0e01 No.14310234
>>14310221
>complex financial system
>the ability to rape people with taxes without any repercussions except growth
>this doesn't make a piss poor system which can be gamed to fuck
wew
76cedb No.14310251
>>14310234
>>14310233
You are really getting a bit more money one turn, and turn everyone to hate you in one turn, and then you reduce tax to make everyone love you again, except the damage's already done.
You just waste one turn micromanaging when you can make everyone love even with higher tax so you can get big money every turn.
76cedb No.14310259
>>14310256
All you need to do is build some buildings, man.
29202f No.14310260
>>14310251
>You just waste one turn micromanaging when you can make everyone love even with higher tax so you can get big money every turn.
But who gives a shit, you get free XP with pissing people off. Have your economic towns making money, all the towns you hate for farming XP. Been a valid strategy since Empire.
Your game is shit.
f86bf0 No.14310268
>>14310233
>>14310256
Can you please raid >>>/qresearch/? That board is reddit's hangout on 8chan.
76cedb No.14310270
>>14310260
In Attila, you can only raise tax for all provinces.
>>14310266
I do though.
29202f No.14310277
>>14310270
>In Attila, you can only raise tax for all provinces.
>removes features and player control
>tells me its a good thing
76cedb No.14310286
>>14310277
It really changes nothing for me, so eh.
fb11de No.14310292
29202f No.14310294
>>14310286
see a competent developer would've made the system work properly. CA on the other hand will just remove it, because they fucking shit diversity hires who don't know a fucking clue how to develop games, hence this offering being yet another reskin of Rome 2, which was a reskin of Shogun 2, which was a reskin of Napoleon which was a reskin of Empire.
Medieval 2 was at least its own fucking thing, wasn't even developed by you faggots and is vastly superior to any warscape game.
fb11de No.14310295
>>14310292
Wow what a disappointment
76cedb No.14310303
>>14310294
Wait, what?
But the system already works properly.
>of Rome 2, which was a reskin of Shogun 2, which was a reskin of Napoleon which was a reskin of Empire.
Wait fucking what? How does that work, these games play totally different than each other, with the exception of Empire/Napoleon.
Was Medieval 2 a reskin of Rome 1 as well?
1d5e5a No.14310312
>vols support industry shilling
why am i surprised?
29202f No.14310328
>>14310303
Under the hood its the exact same game. Medieval 2 I'm on good authority with to tell you because I know some of the developers who were fired by you faggots, they took the Rome 1 engine and rebuilt it for Medieval 2, this is why the rendering tech was changed and why the Aztec map could be split off, Romes map system never supported this.
>>14310303
>Wait fucking what? How does that work, these games play totally different than each other, with the exception of Empire/Napoleon.
Most of the Warscape games only have cosmetic changes. They still effectively play the same, have the same bugs, have the same stupidly predictable AI. The only differences are in theme, they'll change a few buttons, make things appear different, but under the hood you can tell its the same overall experience. Its no more obvious than it is with Shogun 2 Fall of the Samurai where you can see all of the systems that exist in modern warscape games playing together, gunpowder, melee ect. They change so very little beyond that point and improve fuck all other than the graphics. All their games play exactly the same they're just ordered differently to create the illusion that they changed things.
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1d5e5a No.14310366
>>14310362
no he got a 24 hour ban
d20a39 No.14310377
>>14309749
>routing the enemy center
>being baited into an envelopment this easily
Go back to the Cannae preschool of warfare, faggot.
29202f No.14310380
shit you guys thought paying $20 for factions was bad.. Total War Arena has like $100+ Microtransaction.. holyfuck.
Yeah Great Company. Truly Kings Among Men.
5dd0c9 No.14310396
>>14310380
>Total War Arena
I remember watching a stream back when it was first announced years ago.
Are they going to release it soon? I really want to see what kind of a clusterfuck it will turn into.
29202f No.14310399
>>14310396
I think so. If wargaming has anything to say about it, it'll most certainly contain lootboxes since all their games do, as much as CA wants to pretend it won't. I too am looking forward to the cluster fuck that will be getting 4v4 to actually co-operate with each other, if you've seen rome 1 multiplayer you know its going to be a disaster.
5dd0c9 No.14310411
>>14310399
>lootboxes
Yes, that's going to help CA considerably.
That, and being able to control only 3 units in a series that's about leading entire armies. Well done you bastards.
You know, if it turns out to be free, I'll get it just to dick with people.
b51e23 No.14310443
anyone got a torrent for total jew warhammer 2 and the tomb kings (((expansion)))?
3be760 No.14310566
>>14309587
Total war post Shogun II is a dead series anon, I'm sorry.
8c9509 No.14310721
>anons playing games? not on my watch!
>muh shills!
Tomb Kangz was pretty fun and actually implemented the soft elite cap that WaWa badly needed, they just need it for the other factions now to avoid dragon and carnosaur stacks.
Tried to get into Attila but just couldn't, not sure what the reason was.
Daily reminder that M2 had an empire tier release and is only looked back on fondly due to Empire being that bad and mods. M1 was the superior game. Napoleon is also fucking great
19d4ba No.14310774
>>14310721
>Daily reminder that M2 had an empire tier release and is only looked back on fondly due to Empire being that bad and mods
>M2 is just as bad as the worst game in the franchise
Go away you nigger shill.
5dd0c9 No.14310805
>>14310721
I can't talk about what the release was like, but with the exception of a few bugs, Med2 today works fine and is very enjoyable which cannot be said for some of the later titles.
I agree with M1 having a lot of nice little details that 2 dropped.
But don't forget that Empire brought us all of the Shogun 2 fellating and that the series has dropped in quality significantly since.
It's not about hating a game as much as it is about wanting the series to bring back the things that made it great.
Unfortunately, CA prefers their new audience and we're just some irrelevant old dinosaurs in their eyes, so there is no need to ever listen to us.
I have hope things will turn around one day, once their casual streamlined bubble bursts.
c2f83f No.14310871
>>14310721
The Canopic jars system really makes me wish the item system was better in warhammer. That and the fact I've been reading the Legend of Sigmar books where the human kings had weapons they held in special regard made from Dwarfs and Elves.
You should be able to make various weapons and banners maybe with your heroes (have Empire Bright wizards make a Banner of Eternal Flame, Runesmiths making runes or something) and trade them. It would also be nice to actually see the banners and maybe some of the unique items for your heroes. The fact that there still is no Runefang for Karl Franz is ridiculous.
5ef7f3 No.14310878
I would just like to go into one single thread without seeing half of it deleted. This shit is getting fucking ridiculous. What ever happened to self moderation?
9867db No.14310880
>>14309711
>>14309770
>Total War team is great!
>Attilla is great
>Its made up of whites
<Ignore the DLC riddled games the release
<Ignore continued watered down mechanics
<Ignore buggy boring campaigns
<Ignore shitty multiplayer
<Ignore the last 7 years of CA shitting the bed buts its okay because they're white.
8c9509 No.14310884
>>14310805
Yeah it's a shame since Empire was the most ambitious jump for CA. If they had just spent time polishing it up before release it would probably end up ranked as one of the better TWs
While Shogun 2 is vastly overrated, it does do it's rock-paper-scissors fights in a well polished manner, but suffers badly from the use of warscape.
The engine would be perfect for Victoria Total War or Prussia Total War, but I can understand why they went with China this go around. I'm not sure how their combination of hero mechanics from WaWa will slide into RoTK, but it could work if it's not a mess on release and could open the door for some interest quasi historical stuff like the Iliad
>I have hope things will turn around one day, once their casual streamlined bubble bursts.
I think it will sooner rather than later. Trying to crank out 3 games in a year and a half can't be good for their dev teams, and I can't see Britannia selling well
29202f No.14310947
>>14310721
>Daily reminder that M2 had an empire tier release and is only looked back on fondly due to Empire being that bad and mods.
I remember it vividly, the release was fuck due to the AMD issues, I was on an Athlon at the time. The initial release had issues, but was still a far better time than Empire ever was. Kingdoms however was god-tier. It changed so much and added so much content that Kingdoms in its own right was radically different to the M2 vanilla (no better exemplified than in the Americas campaign because of how vastly different it plays from any other total war). That CA actually gave a fuck about their game, yes Medieval 2 was rushed and I know this from the people I know that worked on it.
But here's the thing too, Even Rome 1 had a terrible release. For the same above mentioned things that people look fondly on M2 they also do the same for Rome 1. But in all honesty Medieval 2 is the better of the two because it has the least amount wrong with it, again primarily because the engine was rewritten off the Rome 1 base which is why you don't get units getting stuck in building geo like in Rome 1, they actually path properly in city battles most of the time. They're still utterly crap at getting off walls however. Its not perfect.
Do I think that Medieval 2 could've been done better, definitely, there's features that Medieval 1 had that would've fit right at home in 2. But to be fair Medieval 1's Campaign map was no where near as detailed. I mean I still really like Medieval 1, but I prefer Medieval 2 just because it plays better overall.
18b88a No.14310948
>>14310884
Pretty sure that Britannia is basically just a mod of Attila. The pricing of it at 36 buckaroos also makes me think that they just slapped it together. Personally I'd like to see them remake Empire or Shogun and do it right, but that is hoping for too much.
29202f No.14310977
>>14310948
them actually fixing Empire might be interesting to see. Not putting money down kind of interesting, but interesting none the less.
b9894d No.14311052
>CA shill with 1/3 of the replies to his own thread
I thought he would have learned after the last one he tried to make.
bd8798 No.14311062
>>14308140
>Who's down for Throne of Britannia April next year?
Sorry, Shill-kun, but everyone and their mother knows nu-CA is cancer.
>>14309861
1d100
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d37c28 No.14311313
>actually playing a Total war game past medieval 2
such shit taste
48d13c No.14311450
>>14309861
Fuck the shill and rolling.
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5dd0c9 No.14311561
>>14310884
>Trying to crank out 3 games in a year and a half can't be good for their dev teams, and I can't see Britannia selling well
This was the biggest surprise for me.
Sure, there wasn't a very large window of time between Med1 (2002), Rome1 (2004, with Alexander releasing months before Med2 would) and Med2 (2006), but all of those were complete games and had expansions which were close to the release of the next game.
But lately they've been putting them out one after another with barely any breaks. WaWa2 came out only a year after 1 and I think some expansions for Attila were also released recently.
19d4ba No.14311600
>>14311561
WaWa2 is basically an expansion being sold as a fully priced game.
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76cedb No.14312383
>>14311600
>4 new factions
>entirely new campaign map
>expansion
Fuck off faggot.
>>14311561
WaWa2 is the only game they release in 2017 along with Empires Divided (expat for Rome 2).
76cedb No.14312395
>>14310948
You are underrestimating Jack Lusted and his team.
And why redo Shogun? Shit's already done with Shogun 2.
I'm personally not all that interested in gunpowder age TW where everyone are the same, except with different stats and colors.
I laugh when people want Civil War: TW when it's exactly that, a two-faction game, with the factions not being super different either.
118134 No.14312739
>autistic niggers fling shit itt at what vidya they don't like
Good thing I like video games
62fe17 No.14313628
>Playing Napoleon Darthmod
>Play Denmark
>Poor as fuck
>Barely can maintain one stack while using trade nodes
>Eventually get double-crossed by Prussia & that alliance despite being allied, killed
>Play Sweden
>Denmark is a fucking superpower with over four stacks
>They single-handedly hold back France for years
>Quit the game
>Load back in sometime later
>Denmark's refreshed AI decides it'd rather abandon its capital to attack me
>France doesn't bother taking their capital, they march right past with their full might and also attack me
>Hold back six full stacks with two increasingly dedified stacks
>Eventually overrun
Top tier
>>14309861
Roll
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033de3 No.14313949
>>14313944
fucking retarded chart
1a6eac No.14322302
>>14309861
shit thread, might as well continue the derailment.
aac305 No.14322659
I don't think i'm ever going to buy a total war game again. Any DLC made to add a faction to be playable even if they already existed beforehand is bullshit. I might get a game if I can get it + all DLC for cheap. I should have stopped buying them sooner, I stupidly bought Attila and barely ever played it.
76cedb No.14323025
>>14322659
You should, it's a good game.
I'm playing Stainless Steel right now and I'm kinda pissed at all the unresponsive gameplay compared to Attila.
995bc4 No.14323091
>>14323025
>unresponsive
I'd argue that it is more a matter of troops behaving like actual soldiers and not toy ones (they take a second to react, some quicker some slower), but that's just me.
Getting the cavalry into formation when trying to flank can be a huge bitch and I mostly don't even bother because of that.
Walls are a nightmare and trying to set up during the deployment phase while defending a city is an exercise in futility. One and only point for Warscape from me, because that's something they actually fixed.
76cedb No.14323117
>>14323091
No, it's just unresponsive, like when you tell the cavalry to run, they just walk.
And sometimes they are just fucking stuck in mid way between charging and not charging, and just raise their lances and move extremely slowly.
At least the cavalries in Attila charge when you tell them to charge.
1aab39 No.14323134
Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that most Total War games aren't that good unless they are modded? What's your favorite mods for the Total Wars you play?
>>14323091
I never liked sieges in Total War, I think the only game with genuinely good sieges is Shogun 2.
76cedb No.14323141
>>14323134
Shogun 2, Attila and Warhammer are actually perfect fine without mods because the modding scenes in those games just add into the game instead over of making huge overhaul like Medieval 2.
But that's where Medieval 2 shines too, it serves as an engine for modder.
Stainless Steel and Third Age are the best mods out there. Used to say Call of Warhammer but now we get the actual Warham:TW.
995bc4 No.14323155
>>14323117
Are you sure you're giving them enough of a head start before charging and double clicking?
Also, don't give any other orders until they actually perform the charge, otherwise you will break it, even if you click on the same enemy unit.
>>14323134
That's funny.
I thought Shogun 2 had the worst siege battles.
76cedb No.14323185
>>14323155
I'm actually sure because I give them like 10 feets between them and enemy archers. Sometimes they are just walking with their lances towards the archers.
And there's the matter of the charging cavalries changing direction and hitting the spearmen closest to them instead of the archer when you click on the archer.
I dunno if it's this is Stainless Steel doing or vanilla Med 2, I'm too annoyed by the bugged combat of Med 2 to retry.
76cedb No.14323212
>>14323185
Shoulda say 10 meters*
995bc4 No.14323219
>>14323185
>I give them like 10 feets between them and enemy archers
No clue how far away that is, but try making the distance greater. Sometimes they refuse to run when you double click on the ground, but I don't think that ever happens when you actually target an enemy.
As for them randomly changing direction, I don't think I've ever seen that. Maybe you accidentally clicked on a sole spearman in a bunch of archers?
Who knows. The game is buggy, but not that buggy, I think.
76cedb No.14323238
>>14323219
Well, I experienced twice of that yesterday, it could be Stainless Steel doing.
This makes it kind of chore to play considering I just played Warhammer and went back to it.
Oh well…
1aab39 No.14323245
>>14323141
I still like Call of Warhammer, I think it nailed down the doom and despair aspect of Warhammer better than WaWa.
>But that's where Medieval 2 shines too, it serves as an engine for modder.
It's kinda funny, I used to help I guy with his Med 2 mod and I learned something strange; Med 2 gives modders more room to work with than the later games but the engine itself is a bitch to deal with while the Warscape can't be modded to the extent that Med 2 can it is a hell of a lot less frustrating to deal with.
>>14323155
I liked Shogun 2's sieges the best because the AI could actually pose a threat to the player, at least when it was attacking.
76cedb No.14323259
>>14323245
Yeah, Call of Warhammer is just insane.
I mean people complain about Chaos stacks in WaWa, but goddamn it's nothing compared to Call of Warhammer chaos invasion.
89f203 No.14323454
>join total war thread
>expect discussion
>get retards who think they're not any worse then an sjw bitching about vaginas and minorities in a dev team
>the same kind of bitching that is had by SJWs who get triggered by the lack of vaginas and minorities
d33727 No.14323551
>>14312739
>I like video-games
lol faggot
76cedb No.14323875
Call me spoiled but I prefer the auto-replenishment of newer games compared to Rome-Medieval.
Fuck wasting turns sending troops back to the castle and click on retrain every single turns, it's not even fucking realistic.
e351a7 No.14324063
>>14323155
I've only played Medi2 and Shogun2. Shoguns' sieges might not be all that interesting but they're a hell of a lot less frustrating than Medievals'. Medievals sieges are fun, until you get past the walls. Then it becomes a game of trying to figure out where you can actually place your units and having to babysit them so that they're not constantly going in the exact opposite direction of the one you told them to. Also, Medis' battle AI is retarded. Half the time infantry will just sit in the command zone doing fuckall while your archers shoot at them from >20m away.
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ca8ed2 No.14324126
>>14309861
fuck roll again
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05e928 No.14324304
fuck that gimme a reroll i don't care if i'm shitting up the thread
995db5 No.14324692
>>14309861
rolling rolling rolling
99d70d No.14325651
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8c9509 No.14325889
>>14324063
none of the total war games have good sieges, CA has never gotten them to work properly or have the AI not be completely retarded with them
704ba9 No.14325912
61ba3b No.14326231
>>14308782
I think there are a few Anglo Saxon themed mods on TWcenter. I think there's one set in the viking age and one in a more Brytenwalda type setting
61ba3b No.14326688
>>14309190
>>14323219
different anon, tell me more about Deus Vult. Doesn't it have a map similar to the Crusades expansion? I'm doing an SS 6.4 campaign as Norway with "Savage AI" and difficult mode for campaign and battles
fa9853 No.14327578
Anyone have a torrent for total wawa 1 with all the dlc including norsca? I can only find torrents that include all the dlc except for the norsca.
It's been ages since that dlc got released and yet nobody seems to have bothered.
e351a7 No.14327882
>>14325889
It's not just sieges though. Webm is a field battle. Not shown is the 35 minutes of the AI staring in my general direction while I made and ate lunch. And before anyone says "Mod!", it's happened in vanilla as well. And I've only played through a medium campaign as England in that.
Even outside the battlemap sieges are terrible. The AI never actually attacks your towns, only tries to starve them out. And while, yeah, it's realistic it's also boring. And I swear if I ever spend two turns building ladders and siege towers only to find out that the place I'm attacking is a ram only map I will make a twitter and write an angry tweet to CA.
Really, the only thing Medieval has going for it is mods. But fuck me if there aren't some great ones.
632009 No.14327971
which total war is the best?
>>14309861
roll
169dc2 No.14328338
>shilling for Sega
Every Total War they made after Medieval 2 is shit.
c6850c No.14328781
I haven't played any of the newer games except Empire and Shogun 2, but is melee still a bunch of guys 1v1ing each other with shitty mocap animations?
b1ce24 No.14328792
47ecb6 No.14328801
>>14309861
None of these dont have a downside though
cece3d No.14328849
>>14328801
>03, 08, 09, 16, 24, 25, 50, 59, 63, 64, 65, 80, 92
Arguably a few more, but I decided to stick with the totally positive.
9f0e25 No.14328858
>>14324256
When you make the same logical fallacies as an SJW, you're just like them. Don't make the same logical fallacies, then you won't be called that.
0b8997 No.14328915
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cece3d No.14330301
>>14330287
Three days and thirty posts late buddy. Also sorry you got bug lady.
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da0bfc No.14330594
Are there still people unironically defending the blood and gore DLC they sell for every release now
ed126b No.14330628
>>14328338
Shogun 2 and Fall are solid but I would have been perfectly fine with them stopping at Med 2 if it prevented the series from turning into the shitshow it is now. There are enough mods for Med 2 that it could be the only strategy game anyone needs.
>>14328858
Nice Horseshoe fallacy. Glad to see you guys keep thumping this shit everywhere you go.
e44f99 No.14330631
>>14330594
nothing wrong with that, if people dont like it, they wont buy it.
>>14309861
roll
da0bfc No.14330647
>>14330631
>nothing wrong with charging $8+ at release for a pack of blood and gore that is included in literally every fucking base game ever with combat.
>Nothing wrong with keeping their games full priced and never going on sale until half a decade later
>nothing wrong with pricing their dlc at double or even triple their real actual content price
76cedb No.14340766
>>14330631
>>14330628
>>14330594
>>14330647
The blood and gore literally costs $2, the game does go on fucking sale regularly and their DLC aren't even priced outrageously.
What's wrong with their them so far is they have stopped releasing GOTY collection with all the DLC.
76cedb No.14340769
>>14330628
Except Med 2 has plenty of problems and the newer TW clearly improve upon it, you hipster jackass.
76cedb No.14340777
04c6ff No.14340847
>>14309861
LETS GET THIS STARTED
ROLLING
IF I GET 03 I WILL WISH FOR TW SHILLS TO BE BANNED
ALSO BEST GIRLS ARE AS FOLLOWS AND IF I ROLL THEM I WONT BE UPSET
IF I GET DUBS I WILL ROLL AGAIN
09 IS A GOOD GIRL
10 IS A GOOD GIRL AND ID PUT UP WITH THAT GAY SHIT
12 IS BEST LOLI AND IF SOCIETY SHUNS ME I HAVE A BETTER EXCUSE TO BE HIKIKOMORI
24 IS SECOND BEST GIRL THE IMOUTO IS BEST GIRL
I WOULD COUNTER BULLY 30 LEWDLY IN PRIVATE
50 IS WAIFU MATERIAL T B H
70 IS BASICALLY 2D ANYWAY EXCEPT WITH AI AND BETTER GRAPHICS SO THATS COOL
90 IS BORDERLINE CUCKSHIT SO I DONT WANT TO ROLL HER
91 IS DECENT AND IM A GAMBLING MAN ALSO IF I ROLL 90 I'LL PRETEND IT WAS A 91
d77495 No.14341429
>>14327882
>Really, the only thing Medieval has going for it is mods. But fuck me if there aren't some great ones.
<Really, the only thing Medieval 2 has going for it is mods. But fuck me if there aren't some great ones.
ftfy. I'm getting real fucking fed up with what I have to assume for my sanity's sake are small, retarded children, referring to Medieval 2 and Shogun 2 as Medieval and Shogun.
1ea08a No.14341568
So is Ancestors: Legacy gonna have its lunch eaten by Thrones of Britannia? Or is Ancestors going to be too shit for that to matter?
>>14309861
Rolling
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a5cd97 No.14358575
>>14309861
Medieval 2 Total War was the best Total War game.
d82a7c No.14358613
35c8cb No.14358662
>>14309861
The fuck is this degenerate garbage?
35c8cb No.14358675
DAILY REMINDER THAT THE WARHAMMER MOD FOR ROME: TOTAL WAR IS SUPERIOR TO THE OFFICIAL RELEASE
35c8cb No.14358685
>>14323454
Except that it's likely that CA has become shit because they've been hiring for the sake of diversity as opposed to merit.
76cedb No.14359637
>>14358675
Wait, there is a Warham mod for Rome? I thought that is for Medieval 2.
4bd86f No.14361501
>>14309182
Divide and Conquer submod for Third Age
15b90d No.14361892
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
New DLC for Rome 2 got announced
http://store.steampowered.com/app/792520/Total_War_ROME_II__Desert_Kingdoms_Culture_Pack/
and a female leader FLC
https://www.totalwar.com/blog/total-war-rome-ii-desert-kingdoms
>Kush
>Higher probability of female characters in politics
>Nabatae
>their progressive society enabled them to flourish and prosper
>had a remarkable degree of gender equality for an ancient civilization
76cedb No.14362084
cf8f1e No.14362370
>>14361892
WUZ
the camels looked really cool but they really went overboard with the poz'ing
65610a No.14362429
>>14362391
>Egypt, Babylon, Assyria, Persia, Carthage, Libyans - all were not black. They were Semites
So this whole "Egyptians were black" bullshit spat out by kike shitlibs is really just jews jewing themselves?
697e3a No.14362640
>61 posts
I hope you at least get payed for your efforts.
76cedb No.14363103
cf47c7 No.14363150
>>14362429
Egyptians and Persians sure as shit are not semites.
02baf9 No.14363475
a4feff No.14366537
Here is hoping the new Quaan DLC boom.
Fuck nigger and arabs.
831aad No.14367353
>>14361892
>direct linking to steam
what the fuck are you doing.
We Wuz Everyone!
803792 No.14367398
>>14361892
Kush confirmed for most cucked faction.
b7b3fd No.14367411
>>14361892
I don't get this sudden interest they have in reviving Rome 2, they should be refining Attila.
77d8b3 No.14367428
Mortal Empires crack when
803792 No.14367429
>>14367411
Rome 2 sold more unfortunately.
And Throne of Britannia is sort of an expansion of Attila.
803792 No.14367431
>>14367428
Nigger there is no Norsca crack, forget that shit.
f76b2e No.14367532
>>14361892
I was just about to post that.
They just can't leave well enough alone, can they?
f76b2e No.14367545
>>14367398
Kush is about the only good thing niggers ever invented.
803792 No.14367750
>>14367532
To be fair, Attila has the kush as well, they are the only nig faction in the game.
The whole muh QUEEN shit is hilarious though, the nigs been led around by a QUEEN.
c6ed1f No.14367798
14a9ca No.14380086
>>14327971
I had the most fun with Rome Total War, Medieval 2 Total War and Napoleon Total War. Shogun 2 Fall of the Samurai was fun for a while, but the strat map being so small made the whole thing complete and utter horseshit.
I found Napooopan to be particularly memorable with La montée de l'Empire-mod, paired with sub-mod that raises the battlefield unit limit up to 80. AI handles even that amount of units pretty much flawlessly, which resulted in some extremely intense, exhausting, and fun defensive battles.You basically have to pull out every damn trick in your playbook when defending some city.
The only flaws that I can remember were when game mechanics shat the bed due to units involved. I lost a battle where I was attacking, and enemy was receiving reinforcements due to time running out. Enemy reinforcements simply did not come to the battlemap fast enough. That problem certainly could have been outright bypassed by setting the battle time limit to unlimited. Other problem was due to mechanics involved when a unit tries to assault a house that has been garrisoned by a enemy unit. Only one unit can assault house at a time, resulting in situations where AI is sitting outside the house waiting for one unit to die or rout so that AI can send next one in.
>>14309861
Roll.
66a51a No.14383819
>>14361892
>>14362084
>>14362370
>>14362391
>>14367398
>>14367532
It 's silly for them to spend effort on this but at the same time I don't get the assrage:
> In some cultures, like Rome and Greek – women can only serve a social/political role while in other women can be generals and fight alongside men.
>For cultures where women can’t hold public offices there is a special “Cursus Honorum” path that follows the increase in “behind-the-stage” political influence of women.
>There are special events (dilemmas) that portray the trials and tribulations associated with women coming to power in ancient times. Usually, there are traditions and prejudice standing in the way. Such events allow the player to recruit a female leader or gain some other bonuses from parties that would oppose such a decision.
>Faction leaders of opposite gender can now marry as a diplomatic action, significantly strengthening the relations between the two factions.
>The basic marriage action now has political implications.
As far as diverrsity pushing goes in games, this is pretty not awful example of it: It's acknowledging that women being in positions of authority and power was unusual and isn't handwaving it like asscreed did, and is actually using those sort of cultural barriers and factors and turning them into actual game mechanics.
I've always been of the opinion that diversity pandering is stupid, but if you use women, blacks, gay people, etc either in ways that aren't beating you over the head with how diverse they are it's not a problem, and if you actually use them to do interesting things either mechanically (such as here) or conceptually, then that's fine. SJW's typically don't do either of those things though because they only care about virtue signalling and don't actually want to do tthe work in terms of making shit mechnically interesting or doing the resesearch for making a game based around african mythology or whatever.
49d268 No.14384317
>>14383819
I don't get much assrage aside from the stupid ass MUH QUEENZ thing, but at least it's only a faction.
Not going to pay for it anyway when I can just get ToB.
7a5755 No.14384703
>>14309861
rollan
here's hoping it's not 95
c90bad No.14388747
>>14359637
I'm 90% thats what he meant. The campaign is really fucking hard too. >>14309182 Warhammer for Med II