/v/ - Video Games

>>14303399

The only reason I'd even consider getting one is to CFW it.

>Monster Hunter World

Already have it on PS4 so much buyer's remorse, it's fucking awful

>>14303410

Still waiting on that inevitable Xbox emulator.

>>14303417

Granted, motivation's certainly a factor, but considering how many people will try to do shit like that just to prove that they can rather than because of any real desire to use it and the sheer amount of time it's been, I would've thought someone would've made one by now.

>>14303392

Last I heard it was a hardware issue that can not be software patched.

>>14303427

Gen 6 is hardly early though, and even looking at the popular stuff from that era, the PS2 still doesn't have an emulator so much as it has a program that can emulate specific games on a game by game basis, with tons of the more niche or obscure ones unplayable.

>>14303433

As in what they're exploiting could only be fixed by a hardware revision, like the New 3DS to the 3DS or something?

>>14303441

Then your statement gets even more confusing, since the PS2 is the best-selling console of all time.

>>14303447

>As in what they're exploiting could only be fixed by a hardware revision, like the New 3DS to the 3DS or something?

Yes.

>>14303455

Fair enough, no reason to bother buying one now then. Thanks Anon.

>>14303458

>It was also released in 2000 when the internet was only around 5 or so years old.

Even giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming you meant "the modern Internet that everyone and their mother has access to" as opposed to shit like the Prodigy Network and what not, by that argument wouldn't Gen 5 and prior have no emulation whatsoever?

>>14303474

While absolutely true, that would assume that interest is only ever in making emulators for what's current and not what existed in the past. Again, by that logic, there would never be emulators for anything from Gens 3 or 4.

>>14303492

>Have you met the current year normalfag interests?

Honestly not really, living in a foreign country is great for getting away from that

>You really think there's more or even an equal amount of people who are interested in playing old xbox game's compared to the Switch?

No, but I also don't think the average normalfag is interested in learning to program

>implying gen 3 or 4 as complicated to emulate as current gen

Again, it's a question of interest, rather than doability.

>>14303513

>It's more likely that they would learn to program for a switch than an xbox is my point.

Certainly true, I just don't think it's only normalfags who are learning to program.

>And the interest is on the Switch.

It's certainly the hot new thing at the moment, I just don't think the logic you were running with earlier made much sense.

>>14303536

>I see no reason why the 2 are exclusive. Many programmers are giant normalfags who play shitty games.

I never said they were exclusive though, just that you make it sound like ONLY normalfags are learning to program, and I find that doubtful.

>It does when you factor in that you probably don't have to be a mastermind behind a computer to program an emulator for a gen 4 console

I get that, but your earlier argument focused on the timeframe in such a way that it suggested that people who'd be programming would only have interest in emulating whatever is current.

>>14303572

>Well who else is going to make an emulator for a console?

If anything I'd think normalfags would be the last people in the world interested in playing video games.

>This is true. It's just that the amount of effort required to make an emulator for a gen 3 game is more likely to occur despite this fact. The xbox is in that middle area where there's not a lot of interest for it to be emulated by current year game players while it's also much more difficult to emulate than gen 3 games.

For sure, just I know that a lot of programmers will take on projects simply for the challenge or to be able to say "I did it" so I figured between that and the amount of time it's been around someone would've accomplished it by now.

>thinking that new firmware will stop it from getting hacked again and again

Nintendo doesn't know how to into security, relax

>>14303392

>buying a console and keeping it stored away for months, if not years, until the moralfag devs (same cunts from 3ds scene) release piracy

Just buy one at the best price you can find and buy the modchip coming out in Autumn (Americuck spring).

There's a solder and solder-less option, so probably a cart you insert and a normal modchip.

>>14303612

This is about the hardware, though.

Thankfully, Nintendo autists are the ones that can get emulators to run on toasters with better results than hardware.

Wii U, Wii and 3DS have better support than PS2, Xbox, 360 etc. A complete fucking joke, honestly.

>>14303603

Who says they can't do a 180° though? Sony managed to get their act together after being humiliated with the PSP and PS3.

>>14303599

Also that. I've also no interest in a tablet-sized console. Vita is already pushing it for size.

>>14303617

We're all as good or bad as the worst of us, anon

That's how it is for everyone

>>14303633

Were a random mass of around 2500 people, a random anon having shit taste wont matter one bit to anyone but faggots who like to have an online personality attached to their posts.

>>14303632

Wasn't the PS4 on its way to being hacked when the guy behind it bailed and sold out to Sony?

>>14303632

>sony use their own software and hardware on the ps4 to screw over hackers, plus sandboxing shit

>nintendo uses derivative software with scraps from the 3ds (fully cracked) on hardware that's been 100% torn down and documented, plus the sandboxing isn't terribly amazing

They don't learn.

Honestly, they don't need to bother. People crack their consoles in record time and they still sell stupid amounts of hardware and software compared to Sony and Microsoft.

Didn't MH4U and Pokemon X/Y each sell more than the complete total of the top 20 grossing Vita games? And that was when piracy was available in it's infancy, then it was 100% cracked and Sun/Moon sold some impossibly stupid amount, and won a record for pre-orders.

>>14303599

Mod chip launches in a couple months, and there's lots of console exclusives being ported to it, so if there's a game on PS4/Xbone you want that's ported, you can play it for free.

>>14303642

Sony has stopped a bunch of devs. There's a working exploit on really low firmware, but no online and limited game support (can't play all newer games).

Xbone and PS4 both have 100% piracy/CFW but the devs are cucks and won't release them.

The Xbone crackers are especially laughable. They won't release their proper cracks as they think the dev mode any user can get is the same as proper control over the system.

>>14303657

>o if there's a game on PS4/Xbone you want that's ported, you can play it for free.

anything available for those that is also on the switch is either also available on PC or some IdeaFactory weebshit.

>>14303697

True.

The only game I was thinking of when I posted that was Dragon Quest Builders 1+2.

>>14303590

>I'm talking about normalfags who do play videogames.

In my experience, they don't, they just boot up things like WoW or Angry Birds and claim to play video games.

>>14303599

I do feel pretty stupid in retrospect, but I'm also not familiar with how CFW scenes play out early in a console's life.

>>14303657

>Didn't MH4U and Pokemon X/Y each sell more than the complete total of the top 20 grossing Vita games?

Yes but at the same time it was also showing to the 3rd-party devs (in the niche category) that it wasnt worth developing on 3DS, since the userbase on Vita was stronger than on 3DS. Hence why the Vita library is more interesting in comparison no good racing games besides the PSP Ridger Racer/Burnout tho

>>14303773

For TV consoles absolutely they are, but I figure they don't actually use them for anything but TV and sportsball type things, and then for short bursts of time playing whatever product they're told to buy by the (((people))) in charge for the social credit. Certainly not the kinds to get invested enough to want to play video games, let alone learn to program an emulator for such a purpose.

No, if you want a Linux gaming tablet, you can get a ching chong android one for less than half the price. Only thing that'll be interesting with Switch is pirating software.

>>14303790

Like I said, they'll purchase what they're told to purchase for social credit, but they're not actually going to be playing the damn things for any length of time beyond what's fashionable if even that, because they don't actually like video games.

>>14303850

>>Switch is underclocked heavily compared to the Shield

Well to be fair, Android also runs like shit. It's why Apple always has the fastest benchmarks, because Android is poorly made shite.

>>14303447

>As in what they're exploiting could only be fixed by a hardware revision, like the New 3DS to the 3DS or something?

Yeah, it was basically confirmed as such. Expect a Nintendo Switch Pro around holiday season 2018 or early 2019. I'm willing to bet it's gonna run a custom Tegra chip based on either Xavier or Parker, NVidia will probably heavily discount the Xavier chips because of this fuck up.

>>14303392

i see pass your ruse nintendo i won't be buying your dead console

>>14303895

Why do you think "most games" are shovelware shit that sells purely on advertising and spectacle with a focus on only netting release window numbers? That's exactly why I say that. Normalfags hate video games.

>>14303915

Makes sense, though I figured they'd do a revision anyway to make it portable, since as is it's basically entirely a TV console.

>>14303933

Good, from the sound of it there's no point since even if an emulator doesn't pop up the exploit isn't going away anyway.

>>14303937

They actually usually just buy them and don't even play them.

>>14303410

>the inevitable emulator that will no doubt surpass its performance by the year 2020

>by the year 2020

I can pratically taste the desperation in this post.

>>14303963

Anecdotal evidence, but I've seen the exact opposite I used to work at FUCKING GAMESTOP and see tons of people who were basically the wet dream of the corporate heads who would reserve games, pick them up at launch, then turn around and trade them in towards reserving something else within a few weeks, often with the little Xbox 360 game case sticker that holds the case closed still sticky and fresh as if it'd just been opened.

>>14303949

>>14303963

>you're le normalfag

>no u

Just the way you post confirms you both are, just like the rest of normalfags in denial that constitute /v/.

To be normal and to be a loser is not mutually exclusive.

>>14303983

But can you still use gamestop as a bank?

>>14303986

I never accused anyone here of being a normalfag, just stating things about them from far more experience interacting with them than I would ever want.

>>14303990

You mean that bizarre pay system where they tried to pay you into a special bank account they "held onto for you" and that you had to withdraw by bothering the keyholder on duty to ring it up as if you were withdrawing from the store like it was your bank? That was fucking dumb and reeked of (((deception))) so I got on direct deposit immediately and never bothered. I wouldn't be surprised if that system's still in place though.

>>14304003

I think he's talking about the guy who said he'd constantly preorder games but not buy them, so he could keep all his money as pre-orders at GameStop. When a game came out, he'd transfer his order to a new game coming out. He could withdraw by cancelling a pre-order and pulling his money out.

>>14304021

>Is it really that hard to assume that people who pay money for garbage will also play said garbage?

Yes, because their motivation for buying garbage isn't to play it but to gain credit in social circles for the most part.

>>14304024

Ah, never had anyone do that, but yeah, at least while I was there you could definitely do that and get away with it, though it'd be a question of how long you got away with it if the manager gave a fuck about it.

much like the wii u and the 3ds I really doubt anyone is going to make homebrew worth a shit and it's not like there's stuff that would even warrant pirating on the switch

>>14304024

>>14304033

I don't see why the manager or gamestop in general would want you not to deposit your money in preorders. It's an interest free loan to them, gamestop is the winner here.

>>14304038

Canceling a preorder makes it a -1 in their count, and changing a preorder just makes it a net zero. The money itself also doesn't count to the store's bottom line until you actually pick up the game, so even at best you're just wasting their time. Even then, most managers probably wouldn't give a shit… except for the fact that corporate HQ is batshit insane and grades stores on, among other criteria, average dollars per transaction. In other words, the transactions they'd need to ring to fuck with those preorders would actually lower their ranking. It's fucking ludicrous.

>>14304043

>Then why wouldn't they just say they own the games?

These aren't exactly smart people.

>Also the online numbers don't lie.

Didn't EA fake online numbers multiple times to hoodwink their investors?

>Otherwise multiplayer games like COD and Overwatch on consoles would just be empty.

Well there's always going to be the literal 7 year olds, that's a given.

>Like I said I think you're just acknowledging a portion of normalfags.

I still think you're giving the beasts too much credit.

>>14304079

>Dunno. But you would still have to provide evidence that EVERY online game on consoles also do this.

Not really, once would be enough to prove that the numbers can't be blindly trusted.

>You really think they make the the entirety of the online community for consoles?

And PC too, god knows how many middle school kids came in every week to buy League of Legends or Steam cards.

>And they love to play mind numbing garbage. What else are they going to do in their free time? Read a book?

Socialize, sportsball, fuck, the usual normalfag shit.

>>14303458

>It was also released in 2000 when the internet was only around 5 or so years old.

Lad, ARPANET could legally drink alcohol in the year 2000.

>>14304159

>It's EA. Other major companies MIGHT follow suit but you're essentially making an argument out of some flimsy evidence.

EA is basically half of the West, with the other half being Activision. Either way, I'd say it's reason enough not to blindly swallow the numbers as facts, but then I'm a suspicious person by nature.

>Otherwise known as EA sports which probably compromises most of their profit.

Normalfags are by far more likely to spend a significant portion of their time watching real sportsball on TV than playing Maddenball.

>Either way unless you have numbers that prove most normalfags don't even take the games they pay money for out of the wrappers I'm inclined to not believe you in the least.

That's fair, and the same goes in reverse.

>The fact that you think the majority of the console AAA game market makes its money off of people who don't play the games they buy is pretty retarded

It only sounds retarded because you have the capability for intelligent thought, and think that all human beings share this capability. I've seen far too much evidence to the contrary to share that belief.

Since there is a hard mod on its way, I think there isn't a bad time to buy the switch. I'm excited to see how that hard mod works, but unlike soft mods/cfw, it's not going to be ran by cucks who pussy foot around piracy to the point where you have to wait for the cracks to be cracked.

>>14303949

Well the detachable controllers are part of what makes it unique. The way they're marketing it with Labo is retarded, but basically they're trying to give life to those weird plastic add ons kids used to buy for their Wii. Basically you would put a joycon into a gun shaped skin and then it becomes a light gun in game.

>>14304167

That's not the same thing as actual age, idiot. Newsgroup culture was well developed before a bunch of 10 year olds poured in and ruined everything.

>>14304221

>They do both. When a game isn't playing on TV I bet they play FIFA or Madden.

Absolutely, considering that's the only reason those franchises still exist. That said, when you have literal 24/7 sports networks, I'm pretty sure they're still spending more time masturbating to that than anything else.

>I don't have faith in normalfags but I don't think they're mouth breathing retards so much as malleable morons.

Maybe I'm just jaded, but I can't help but see that as too idealistic.

>>14304222

Yeah, but they're also the stupidest part, and they really ought to make something with the controls on the actual machine, and make it something you can easily slip in and out of your pocket on the train.

>>14303624

>Wii U, Wii and 3DS

3DS has multiple games that don't fucking work since only one guy wants to put the effort into fixing that shit.

>>14303412

Why would people work on an emulator for a system with no games?

I hear the switch uses E fuses, will anyone confirm?

>>14304752

Yes

>>14304734

Like I said, for the challenge of making it work I just want it to happen so I can play Metal Wolf Chaos

>>14304215

I was hoping the timing for a mod solution would come out closer to the next Switch model, which should hopefully have a few solid improvements, so Nintnedo wouldn't have as much time to react. Then again, they probably see these things coming along further ahead anyway.