/v/ - Video Games

They didn't sell enough to keep the studio from downsizing and laying off people responsible for the game.

This is going to be an abortion.

>>14287403

From what I remember, some of the ideas in the story were more interesting than the gameplay and that pic really looks like they are going full grey goo scenario.

The gameplay itself wasn't terrible but not very good either.

Who knows what the sequel will be like.

>>14287432

I can't find any article detailing the layoffs anymore but I swear I read some shit about them laying off staff after the less than adequate performance of The Surge.

Their wikipedia article reflects the changes with them comind down from 70 employees to 49 a few months after The Surge but I can't find any article on it.

you know I might have played it if the weapon animation weren't so slow and shit.

>>14287403

What really urks me about all these action RPGs in the vein of Souls we've been seeing lately is the lack of a character creator. I really hate being forced into being this standard character when there's really no need to. Character creation and build variation adds a lot to a game's replayability for me.

>>14287403

Neat I guess the first one was alright for a soulslike.

>>14287490

Their previous game Lords of the Fallen did the same thing though.

>>14287403

So what was actually wrong with this game? Each time I saw The Surge mentioned it always triggered The Sperg.

>>14287495

>Lords of the Fallen

That game was so fucking bad I couldn't even bring myself to finish it.

>>14287520

Everything wrong with the surge can be summed up as "it's from a B-list studio". The ideas are good, the level design can be nice and the game mostly works, but it tries to be on par with a huge nip franchise and it just can't crack it. It's worth playing if you go in with appropriate expectations.

>>14287528

>Not using running attacks with single-rigged

Learn to fucking play the game damn

>>14287542

Can't exceed 16mb for the combined files of one single post.

>>14287456

I don't believe that layoffs after a game is shipped are anything unusual in game development.

>>14287542

>that webbum is like a week old, gramps

So? The game is over 8 months old, it was just as true then as it is now.

The Surge sucked anyway.

>>14287528

>>14287542

>>14287556

>>14287565

>>14287573

Just a tip, while I can appreciate high bitrate, it is worth considering setting a reasonable cap on it for short clips. My Nexus 5 and 5X have trouble decoding VP9 WebMs that are around 4-5mbps or more. I usually cap my WebMs to 3-3.5mbps because that's almost always plenty (especially for 720p) and I know it has a much higher chance of decoding properly on mobile devices.

Plus having smaller files means posting more at once, as you mentioned you didn't realize you were hitting 10mb.

I realize I could be wrong and maybe your bitrate isn't as high as I think it is, but I'm just estimating based on my phone, and don't want to check the bitrate myself properly right now.

>>14287604

Who browses with a fucking telephone?

Faggots, that's who.

>>14287608

Gotta browse something during the slow moments at work, and it sure as shit isn't going to be Facebook.

>>14287604

>only 2m bitrate

lmao

>>14287608

This. Anything that fucks over mobilefaggots is a good thing. Absolute concer.

>>14287616

So you watch vidya webms on 8ch?

You're pretty embarrassing.

>>14287619

I didn't say they all failed to playback, obviously the lower bitrate ones work fine, especially this one >>14287565

>>14287628

lmao it's only 2m bitrate

>>14287628

Go and do some work faggot.

>>14287639

Hey faggot, the 2mbps ones work fine.

Now you made me check, this one >>14287556 is 11 mbps which is the one that has the issue, hence my post. Just because I quoted them all doesn't mean they all failed.

>>14287648

>>14287664

Now you're massively embarrassing.

>>14287674

This has nothing to do with internet bandwidth, which is more than fast enough. The issue is that the hardware can't decode in real time 11mbps VP9 footage (it can do H.264 just fine, being an older/faster codec at the cost of lower quality).

Why did they make everything ugly as fuck ?

Even an industrial waste/junkyard theme doesn't necessarily need to look like a LEGO abomination.

Why can't they make it pretty or stylish ?

>>14287479

Full picture please?

>>14287604

>phoneposter asking others to dumb shit down for his retardation

Buy a note 7 and kill yourself with it

>>14287688

You don't want to know, to be 200% frank.

>>14287678

It's internet on a telephone, it's telephone internet.

Well, knowing the gaming industry as much as i do, it's perfectly reasonable for a shitty german game developer to make a sequel to a shitty game no one liked.

>>14287604

Doing shit for the lowest common denominator is not to be encouraged.

>>14287711

Now I want it more

>>14287616

>work

Here's your problem.

>>14287746

What part of hardware decoding don't you understand? The internet speed could be fucking 56k dial up and it would not matter, once the download is complete then playback commences, but the playback struggles with VP9 at such bitrates.

>>14287774

Because of the 16mb file size limit, the vast majority of webms are at quite small bitrates so it is fine, it's just the occasional outliers that tend to end up this way, but again 3-4mbps is plenty for 720p videos. I see plenty of people complain about 12MB PNGs getting posted instead of JPGs, and when they are doing that they really are doing it as a bandwidth complaint. Those posters are probably from poorer countries with terrible internet (by modern standards at least).

>>14287786

>being a nigger

>not shitpost 24/7 with any platform you can grab

I bet you unironically like traps

>>14287495

Fuck you're right. I'd forgotten about that.

I enjoyed that game too while I was playing it but I guess I forgot about it immediately after.

>>14287566

It's not, especially for smaller studios. Bigger companies will move people from studio to studio as "reshuffling" but that's normal too (unless you're EA Montreal el oh el).

>>14287792

I'm not talking about decoding, I'm talking about you being a donut puncher who watches /v/ webms at work.

>>14287479

No, it was dark souls with a sci-fi setting.

>>14287711

Post it now you faggot.

>>14287403

Ew. The surge was trash. I pirated it and quit after the first level.

And they say the free market will determine that bad games don't get made.

This is pleasantly surprising news. I liked The Surge enough to buy it after playing it, despite its flaws. There is a laundry list of good ideas and dense game mechanics, but most of it is buried under a facade of crushing difficulty for the sake of crushing difficulty. I like a hard game, but modeling their entire game after the feeling of Blighttown was probably a bad idea. A sequel which incorporates the lessons learned from the first game will be the best possible outcome for the series.

The prime example of The Surge's problems is the limb cutting mechanic: whether or not you successfully cut a limb is determined not only by the damage the limb has taken, but by your accuracy for the rest of the enemy's limbs, because locking on to a limb simply changes your attacks rather than guaranteeing a hit. It's an interesting system and makes sense mechanically (reward player accuracy in addition to the intuitive logic of hitting something you want to break), but the average player won't notice it because he's too focused on hitting the limb he wants, because why would he do anything else?

This "accuracy bonus" is mentioned once, in a tooltip you can only see on loading screens, which is poorly worded. I read it four or five times before I understood what it actually meant, so I can't imagine what the average normalfag would make of it.

I can go on, if anyone's interested. The visual and level design were consistently top notch, which isn't necessarily apparent from seeing early footage or webms.

>>14287846

>multiple enemies

I didn't have too much trouble since the game is smart enough to recognize repeated lock-ons and will alternate through targets.

>dismemberment is only useful for loot

The difference in hitstun between striking an armoured part and an unarmoured parts is enormous (although they have since patched this because upon release armoured enemies effectively didn't take hitstun). Much of the time it boils down to whether or not you need loot, but it's a decision to be made nonetheless. I'm surprised to hear you found the animations repetitive; I was consistently impressed by their quality. The most egregious repetition was the majority of the game only having three or four enemies types, especially because that glut is so early in the grand scheme of things.

>hold X to kill

You know you can combo into it, right?

>>14288389

Blighttown wasn't hard, but it instilled fear and paranoia. The Surge clearly aimed to have players feel that way the entire time they played it. It succeeded, but I think many people were burnt out after the first area and boss.

>>14288674

bogs and gays anon

>>14288674

I need the source for that, Anon. I want to fap.

>>14288674

A short silky smooth 15fps walk through a bog filled with AIDS

>>14288714

I found it myself. Here it is if anyone else wants it.

https://exhentai.org/g/779073/1d6617bf09/

>>14287711

where do you think we are?

The Surge and LotF are just shitty Souls clones that offer barely anything new. Nioh is a far better rip-off, actually introducing some neat mechanics (Ki Pulses, stances, combos, far smoother movement, faster paced) and embracing a mission based structure. None of these games are perfect but there has been next to no evolution since DeS and DS until Nioh. They are all "lock on, circle strafe, dodge/block at the right time, attack, repeat until victory" affairs.

fuck this game let's have another Armored Core.

>>14288961

The wheelchair reveal at the beginning is so good, too. Speedrun strat: the wheelchair doesn't have any acceleration limit rolling backwards, so you can roll down the ramp at the start faster if you back up onto it.

And then games workshop sued them for having chainswords.

original game sucked. too frustrating to be enjoyable. a waste of development time if you ask me