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rip in peace westwood

Red Alert 2 and Tiberian Sun is my childhood game

is there a download link for the complete games with all the FMV

>>14270347

look on myabandonware

>>14270349

Does it even work on windows 7?

You can get it to work though it's inconsistent.

>>14270478

>read comment on the site

>nobody can get it to work except for 1 guy using windows 8.1

8.1 used the same kernel as win7 right?

https://forums.cncnet.org/topic/5634-ra2yr-black-screen-windows-7/

>>14270949

High explosive warhead or Anthrax warhead?

>>14270347

EA's the ultimate collection had music from all the CNC games before they decided to be assholes and remove it from the additional content section :/

I think RA2 works but weird shit happens. Hell EA fucked up so badly AV was detecting the RA2 exec as a virus lol

>>14271043

Sorry, no tracking numbers. :^)

>>14270960

High explosive..you have Toxin tractors to clear buildings.

I thought you don't like C&C Generals

>>14272436

C&C Generals Zero Hour is a really good game and has aged extremely well. People hating it were a meme and were basically fucking retarded.

>>14270374

RA2 + expansion does, I got it from there and it worked perfectly, widescreen fix worked great too. You just need to run as admin to prevent a glitch where everything dies 20 seconds into the game. I also updated Yuri's Revenge to v1.001 but don't remember why, but it says it fixes more glitches.

>>14272570

Essentially, yeah. It's still getting mods, isn't it? And it's still better than RA3 though Kane's Wrath is still a fun game from the little I played. I just wish I didn't suck so badly at RTS games. I can't into micro/macro and am even too retarded to get control groups to fight the weakness.

V3 LAUNCH UNIT

>>14271043

Man, I always have a soft spot for live action FMV

>>14272436

Who is this 'you' you speak of?

And you're wrong, Generals is well liked though there are good arguments for it not really being a 'true' C&C game.

>>14275496

Generals wasn't great, I didn't like it back when it was released, Zero Hour did improve upon it though.

Also is it me or are the units that were added to Kane's Wrath even more toyish than usual? Especially the Mantis, the Specter and the Hammerhead. I mean some of Nod's units looked silly to begin with like the Scorpion Tank and the Beam Cannon, but that didn't improve that side of things.

>>14272436

I was going to mention what >>14275496 said. I've heard complaints about it not having much to do with the rest of the series, but I think it's a solid game on its own. I know I've had a ton of fun with it and Zero Hour.

>>14275517

>Generals wasn't great, I didn't like it back when it was released, Zero Hour did improve upon it though.

I liked Generals but the game feels like a hastily polished beta instead of a finished product because it kinda was.

Zero Hour was of course an improvement.

>>14272436

With zero hour, generals is pretty good, and that's even before mods.

The only people complaining are the ones autisming over how it doesn't have the sidebar that the other two series of C&C games do.

>>14275517

Is it just me or is that the trend with newer C&C games? I mean, Tiberium Wars is meh but with Kane's Wrath it's better? Vanilla Generals is meh but Zero Hour is better…nothing can make RA3 better though. RA3 seems..imbalanced even with Uprising.

>>14271089

I dunno, if you play any other generals other than Toxin, just use the tractor. If you're using Dr. Thrax's faction…everyone has Toxins so Scud Launchers are kinda useless.

>>14275865

The puddle of toxin from one of Thrax's scuds will fuck up pretty much everything in short notice. Seems pretty effective.

>>14271104

>>14273017

At least I can play RA2 again, Tiberian Sun keep glitching out for me.

>>14275742

>With zero hour, generals is pretty good, and that's even before mods.

What are some interesting mods to try for Generals or Zero Hour? I've never played any, only custom maps.

By the way, anyone played those scripted maps where enemy units get mass spawned and you have to either survive or accomplish some objective?

>>14276126

My two go-tos are Shockwave and Contra. I hear Rise of the Reds is good too, and it's made by the same people as Shockwave.

>>14276613

Infantry general need at least the Gattling Tank, Tank General should have Inferno cannon because really, if there's a map that requires island hopping, the Tank General is fucked.

>>14276758

Gattling tank? Dont their infantry cover that niche? More vonourable then that sure but you know.

>>14275865

the tractor is basically useless tbh, it's only use is to clear buildings and even then it's not good at it because it's range is ass so it's more likely going to get totaled by rocket troops tbh

>>14276613

Superweapon Gen at one point did have Crusader and Paladin tanks but they were retardedly OP. You can still enable them with .ini files or use them in world builder. I will give a hint, they made EMP Patriots look tame

>>14276988

That's the thing..Minigunner's too vulnerable unless you put them in the transports. Better give them some kind of vehicle other than the crawler and the Outpost.

>>14276446

I recently had the exact same problem. turns out it was some shit with modern windows disabling securerom or some shit like that.

I managed to get it working by moving files around various downloads/releases. to be honest I don't know how I got it working

>>14275844

That'll be because EA wanted to spend the bare minimum of money on the base game and the expansion had to come along and fix it.

>>14276126

Shockwave is probably the default mod to start with then branch out from there.

>>14276408

Checked pcgamingwiki?

>>14276613

GLA in general needs a buff, probably the air general for USA also.

>>14276613

it's called contra

>>14277913

>GLA needs a buff

I'd say they need a nerf more. USA overall needs buffed while China sits about right.

>>14277991

he's shitposting

>>14278135

lmao like why don't we just print money and make everyone rich

>>14276613

I'd say infantry general needs a buff. I've never been able to mount an offense as him.

Superweapons general is weak at first but then it's just unstoppable when it gets Auroras and snipers.

>>14278204

I would never shitpost anon, that would be highly irresponsible.

>>14278135

Publishers could just find another studio to do it for them.

>>14277991

It depends heavily on the general if we're talking Zero Hour (and vanilla), the Chinese infantry general is crap for example.

>>14278323

Superweapons general also has EMP patriots.

>>14279610

I'll file a complaint with the /k/ poster that uploaded it. In the meantime, your post motivated me to look up the name watermarked on the video and find the original.

>>14279588

Chinese Infantry General can dominate on urban focused maps. Their troop crawlers are not too shabby either when equipped with Tank Hunters. Problem is they are heavily micro intensive. I've seen a few times where Infantry Gen has blitzed an unsusppecting opponent. He's still not as good as Tank or Nuke Gen though

>>14279841

I hate the troop crawlers so much. They seem to be a good idea at first glance but they'll explode as soon as a feather hits them and kill half of the troops inside and maim the rest.

>>14278135

>Why don't developers just demand a massive budget but then underspend each year, so they can do all the shit they need and more?

The government budget mentality is highly contagious.

>>14279868

>>14279841

Contra mod does some pretty cool stuff for him. All of his buildings, for example, are garrisonable. All of them.

>enemy airdrops cloud of infantry into your power plants

>power plants open up with two miniguns and four rocket launchers, each

>infantry dead before they hit the ground

>>14279661

From God, to Kane, to Steth.

>>14279841

The problem is infantry are just inferior in the average map and are also hard countered by many unit types.

>>14279868

Hence micro intensive. If you boot those troops out they are still at full health.

>>14279954

Contra really is more fun than Shockwave, even if it does make things rather fucked balance and pace wise.

>>14280072

Hence why they are more a situational General. They are at least playable somewhat compared to say Chairforce General whom's best course of action in any MP match is to roll over and die.

>>14280253

Oh I should've mentioned, Red Alert 2 + Yuri's Revenge is a close second for best aesthetics, with it's alternate Cold War 1960s setting with cheesy B-Movie themes.

>>14280092

>Hence why they are more a situational General. They are at least playable somewhat compared to say Chairforce General whom's best course of action in any MP match is to roll over and die.

Well yeh the airforce fag is just not useable though to be fair I'm not sure how you could balance a faction like that without it being either over or underpowered unless you overhauled the entire game.

>>14280096

>Best single player

Probably RA2, I actually prefer 1's slightly more grounded setting but 2 has better overall gameplay.

>Best multi player

Anything pre-C&C3 ideally with a mod for balance and/or extra units.

>Best unit or units overall

I have a real soft spot for the Obelisk of Light even if it is a bit crap to actually use.

>Best faction

Nod followed by ISIS GLA.

>Best game aesthetics

Red Alert 1.

>Best soundtrack

Tib Dawn easily.

>Best overall gameplay

Again probably RA2.

>Funniest line of dialogue

The background line from a news reporter where (((GDI))) blame military losses on funding cuts.

>Most comprehensive mod

Probably DTA, maybe Shockwave but I think it mostly relies on cut content.

>And if you could have just ONE new C&C game, which of the three series would it follow,

Generals, it got the least exploring as a universe.

>which of the three gameplay styles

Would be fine with either the Generals or the original C&C gameplay style.

>and how many modifications would you make to the established formula/take from other iterations?

I'd want a coop campaign because I fucking love those in RTS games and they're rare as dick.

>>14280345

>how you could balance a faction like that without it being either over or underpowered unless you overhauled the entire game.

Just restore a lot of the cut content. Pretty much what Shockwave Mod mostly is combined with porting in random shit from Red Alert and Tiberium games

>>14280253

>Steel Talons

Mein Freund!

Shame that for some reason, GDI abandons their mechanized units for tanks. And fuck who ever it is that thinks that the Wolverine be second tier compared to the Titan (considering that Wolverines are ST equivalent of the APC)

>>14280345

I always like the GLA as a faction in Generals. The Chinese are bleh (this is the faction that tries to be like the US faction but fail in many ways save for base defences and the Nuke Cannon, the Neutron shell make for good garrison clearer and best way to steal enemy vehicles.) and the US, well..I don't like them as much (I think the Superweapon General is cheap with the EMP Patriots and Laser General is such a cakewalk but I do love the Air Force General)

>>14280473

Remove (((Globalist Defence Initiative))).

Nobody likes the Scrin, huh?

>>14280604

The Scrin were introduced in the last C&C game made, their fans just haven't had the same amount of time to build up as Kane's cocksuckers and the (((Global Defense Initiative)))

>>14280630

Well, Nod's units in C&C 3 I thought wasn't that great…until I found out the joys of spamming bikes.

>>14280644

>Nod's units in C&C 3 I thought wasn't that great

Oh come on. You telling me you didn't like stuff like the Black Hand troopers,the Redeemer and Venom spamming?

>>14280640

Also, we were just doing our jobs, which doesn't have quite the same dramatic ring as Peace through Power or DEFENDERS OF EARTH

>>14280650

Preferred the MARV over the Redeemer.

>>14280650

I will forever hate those hacks at EA for nerfing the Rage Generator on the Reedemer. It's the worst epic unit out of the bunch with only two infantry slots, a buggy walking locomotion and an inability to fire and move. Just fuck EA all around.

>>14280657

>>14280640

fuck off back to your ayy lmao planet, aliennigger

>>14280684

>It's the worst epic unit out of the bunch with only two infantry slots, a buggy walking locomotion and an inability to fire and move.

Actually the Redeemer beats the other epic units in a 1v1. It can also be cloaked by that cloaking ability.

Imagine chilling out at your base midgame and then suddenly a fucking giant robot shows up out of thin air right in the middle of your base washing your buildings with flame from its infantry slots.

REDEMPTION IS YOURS

>>14280640

There was a scrin saucer in C&C Renegade

>>14280253

>spoiler

>not destroying the huge cannon so the boat captain acts surprised to which Havoc replies "Can't let you have all the fun

Everything Havoc says is great.

>Kane: "GDI, let me take a look at you…" "captain nick parker, codename "havoc" - how cliche"

>hehe

>>14280096

>Best single player

RA 2

>Best multi player

i didn't have internet when i played and nwo I'm too afraid of humiliating defeat

>Best unit or units overall

stealth tanks.

>Best faction

NOD and Chyna

>Best game aesthetics

Renegade

>Best overall gameplay

too hard of a choice.

>Best soundtrack

RA 2

>Funniest line of dialogue

if not havoc then "ak 47's for everyone, yaaaay! or "can i have some shoes"

>And if you could have just ONE new C&C game

Generals 2 or Renegade-tier in terms of dedication but in Red Alert universe.

>>14280699

oops, forgot to take off my flag.

>>14280697

>Can't generate resources like the other two epic units can

>Complete lack of splash damage with the exception of the flamethrower means it falls the easiest to spam, the other epics both deal splash damage

>Can't repair away from base without a saboteur taking up one of its two slots. Fewest inf. clot upgrades.

The Redeemer is fun but it is rarely useful in an actual game.

>>14280704

The little amount of lore the Scrin have is so interesting.

>Traveler 59 were a sect of the Scrin that focused on teleportation, exploration and mind control, lacking in combat experience, and are so secretive, not even Kane could figure them out

>Reaper 17 are a literal Khorne death cult whose members willingly infuse themselves with Tiberium in a practice of self mutation/augmentation, which, on top of making them fucking insane, also fuels their eternal hatred for everything around them, and is widely known as the most violent sect of the Scrin, driven exclusively by the desire to absolutely, positively fucking destroy anything that stands between them and tiberium, hence why they have the strongest Scrin units, and also why their units have Tiberium shards protruding out of them. They're also just the 17th sect, there's at least 16 more.

The Scrin weren't just written away as "the aliens". They had an actual hierarchy with different tribes and cultures, and I love it, speaking as a Nod man myself.

>>14280752

Is it true that Kane's Wrath is supposed to be in 3 parts with the other 2 parts focused on GDI and the Scrin respectively?

>>14280752

I like that the scrin at heart are just alien crackheads who destroy entire worlds just to fuel their addiction and that they don't even see earth as a battle/war but more like a corporation having to put up with jungle primitives keeping them away from a gold mine.

>>14280754

Like most CnC games they had much grander plans but were cut short by underfunding and EA wanting to crank out content and move on to the next thing as quick as possible. Look into the amount of content cut from generals and zero hour. Instead of a linear series of battles the generals challenge mode was originally going to be like a megaman boss select screen where you picked your general then fought whoever you wanted as you saw fit and each faction was going to get a boss instead of just the China mega-boss.

>>14280754

No. It's solely a Nod campaign. Part 1 is set post-Firestorm as Kane works to reunify the Brotherhood. Part 2 is set during the events of C&C 3, where you do the several shadow ops that happened in the background, like Disabling GDI's Ion Cannons, bombing the GDI treasury, and pretending to be Killian. Part 3 is five years after the events of C&C 3, where you get the Tacitus back.

>>14280754

Judging by how much lore Kane's Wrath brought to the table that was left in paper, and how it happens both before AND after the events of C&C 3, I think so.

>Reaper 17 was so batshit insane that even the rest of the Scrin thought their Tiberium mutilation practices were unnecessary

>Steel Talons are a special unit within GDI formed to field the latest military tech for them, highly regarded even by Havoc

>ZOCOM is essentially GDI's SOCOM, deployed exclusively to Red Zones and pretty much regarded as a unit comprised almost entirely by potential Commando candidates

C&C 3 had so much material to expand upon, it's astounding.

>>14280770

The Scrin wrecked everyone's shit a lot and Earth barely survived their initial arrival, and after all this clusterfuck the Overlord just gets a little annoyed and tells his subjects to prepare full invasion force. Earth will FALL.

But then C&C 4 happened

>>14280786

It still hurts. There was so much they could have done instead of turning it into a retarded half-assed MOBA clone.

Also

>Tiberian Twilight was actually originally intended to be an online game for the Asian pro-gaming market. The game was later forced to become the conclusion of the Command & Conquer: Tiberian series in an effort to boost sales.[8] It is the first game in the series to implement a form of digital rights management (DRM) that requires constant Internet access; this type of DRM is fairly new and targets the used games market as well as ensuring that households must buy a copy per person. However constant Internet connections is often criticised by players, and lower sales.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer_4:_Tiberian_Twilight#Development

Thanks EA.

>>14280817

You know what's the worst thing after all this? Westwood is crawling back to EA.

>>14280786

>>14280817

To rub salt on the wounds Westwood version of C&C3 had envisioned GDI, Nod, CABAL, Scrin and Forgotten as playable factions with the Forgotten meant to play a considerable part of the storyline being humanitiy's unintentional ace in the hole with the Scrin even scratching their heads at the shit they could do. Supposedly Forgotten were going to unleash Tiberium based powers on the Scrin and get the very Earth itself to fight back against the Ayy invasion. Whether this would have been good or not is up for debate

>>14280473

That picture still triggers me.

>>14280859

Where'd you get that info on the Forgotten? Are there official documents anywhere?

>>14280893

Forums posts by former Westwood devs on the Petrogylph forums. Look up Command and Conquer Incursion.

>>14280906

Reading the plot in the C&C wiki right now

What in the fuck, it was supposed to tie in to RA2?

>>14280943

Among other things

https://cncnz.com/gallery/cancelled-command-conquer-games-tiberian-incursion/

https://cncnz.com/gallery/cancelled-command-conquer-games-continuum/

Should note that Westwood were planning on making a C&C MMO which would have been Planetside before Planetside was a thing, mixed with S.T.A.L.K.E.R. elements, and supposedly had base building.

What do people think of RA3? Is it bad I couldn't get myself to finish it? The units felt like they just had no punch or power behind them, it was boring.

>>14281036

Boring was right..the Japanese units are the worse offenders which is a shame, I do like the Mecha/Jet Tengu design.

>>14280429

that's a retarded excuse, surely C4 designed to blow up mechs would also work well on tanks

>>14281065

>to make it look like it did in tib dawn even though the game it's based on was renegade

>>14280096

why does nobody mention rotr

>>14270347

>>14271104

I'll look through my files for you two.

>>14275990

>>14270347

>>14271104

Okay, this is what I got. The MiRROR release of C&C: The First Decade.

More info here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_%26_Conquer:_The_First_Decade

I am including the 1.03 unofficial patch as well to the archive, since it fixes a lot of the bugs that EA introduced when they tried to update the games for Windows XP and other shit. It also includes a NoDVD crack.

More info here: https://cncnz.com/hosted-projects/command-patch/the-first-decade-unofficial-patch/

I had to include FFF's generic game keygen, since it works for the games listed. Malwarebytes lists it as a "riskware tool" cause it's from "a shady site", but it works, it's just a false detection and something to flag, since it used to pirate games. Ignore the "virus detected" bullshit.

Lastly, read the .nfo file on instructions. You're suppose to take the files from P1 and P2 and put them in one folder, since it's a big archive. It's a nearly 8 GB file. Please be patient as I upload it. I'll figure something out.

>>14282120

Maybe I didn't need the FFF keygen. Oh well, it's there, cause reasons. Also, old it works with other old EA shit.

I might keep this split and upload it into two parts on to my Mega.

Also, the bonus DVD isn't included. So you don't get the behind the scenes shit.

>>14271203

>Chicago is nuked.

Why can't this happen in real life?

>>14280990

Kill yourself millennial, it was never anywhere near as bad as it is today. It's incomparable.

>>14282290

Because we want the nuke to go to New York or LA first.

>>14282290

>wanting to nuke an American city

>not wanting to deport all of its illegals and publicly hang all nu-males, traitors and (((journalists)))

>>14281959

>"The M2 Bradley will be featured in the newly added 'Classic Vehicle' crate"

>crate only

>somehow ruins the game

way to be a no-fun faggot

>>14283957

that's even worse

>enemy has every building bar one destroyed

>can't vehicals, only pray for gay

>utter stalemate for 20 minutes

>suddenly 11 tanks push from the enemy which rolls over your defense because everyone has nothing at this point

>turns out they've just been hoarding crate vehicles and now have way more then enough to make your uphill struggle utterly meaningless

>>14283993

they've made alt skins for vehicles on every map more or less

>>14284023

>It took GDI an entire Tiberium war to realize a mech's legs are vunerable if blown up

>>14283983

No teams are that fucking coordinated, and if you were retarded enough to let the enemy get all the crates you deserve to lose.

>>14282120

Yes. Be sure to search up an unoffical patch for RA2 on Ea's fourms so the RA2.exe wont be an actual piece of malware.

>>14284041

it happened all the time back when tib sun vehicles were drop crates and on Lakeside it's awful

>>14284028

Nobody said GDI were smart. They learned nothing from the first Tiberium war

>>14284023

So…why isn't the GDI work to make sure the C4 won't work on legs? I mean, extra armor on the legs would've been good..or have back up treads should the legs are damaged or something?

>>14285804

>flame tower and pillbox

>allied barracks and dogs

crossteching scum reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>14285865

I like engineer rushing, anon. dont kinkshame me

>>14285865

Truth be told I loved techcrossing when I was a kid. Every campaign mission I would always make an effort to instead of destroying the enemy base, capturing it instead. My favorite mission in C&C 3 was that Nod one where you had to capture all the GDI and Scrin bases and use their weapons against them.

>>14285804

i did this exact thing when i was younger, in 7th grade. it was during the time when i didn't have a computer (i had had one before, but didn't at that time and didn't get one again until near the end of 7th grade), and the drawings were based on broodwar. unfortunately i had no friends at this time so not the dude you're looking for. sage for blogpost.

>>14286294

When I was 6 I always drew some Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert 1 bases and battlefields for fun. I loved trying to recreate the buildings in my shitty kid drawings.

>>14286282

That's the mission where GDI and the Scrin would ignore your units until you attacked, right? I remember you could just put an saboteur next to every single GDI and Scrin building and capture them all in the same second to win the mission.

>>14286398

Yeah it is that mission. I never do it as that's no fun.

>>14286398

THE BROTHERHOOD HAS ENTRUSTED ME

>>14284028

>took Nod an entire Tiberium war of fighting Mechs AND GDI figuring out that C4 could be placed on mechs before Nod figured out C4 could be placed on mechs.

>>14286420

We need more OC of the match that shall not be named.

>>14286411

No lie, Nod's EVA unit has such an amazing voice. I would pay EA good money to have him do some audiobooks.

>>14286917

I wonder how much OC there is to come?

Tiberium being cancelled still fucking hurts.

>>14287834

>all this bully on the dude

maybe stanks killed his family and he was getting pay back, you don't know

>>14287834

It's not on kiketube but here is the full match:

https://files.catbox.moe/zx5zuw.mp4

Should be uploaded as "Burgers play RTS"

>>14287938

>YT verification for clips longer than 15 minutes requires giving them your phone number

fuck this shit nigga

>>14288009

maybe cutting the video only to highlight thestank massacre part should be OK

>>14288023

then I might just as well upload >>14278812's webm

>>14285865

>>14286203

>>14286282

>tfw so autistic about capturing enemy buildings that I make a point to capture whole enemy bases in the singleplayer campaign of every mission

If I have nothing but two engies and a few units I'm guaranteed to take over entire missions by force, regardless if I was supposed to or not, and it feels fucking great.

Ultimate test of skill right there.

>>14288110

>that absolutely ecstatic feeling of sneaking into an enemy structure, capturing it and selling it off before his very eyes

Why would barbarians destroy structures when you can hurt people in much more cathartic ways

>>14288044

There's a higher quality mp4 around I think.

>>14288044

I'll upload the full match to my Jewtube later, since the mp4 is so big my potato struggles to upload it directly

>>14288785

Oh right, it's here >>14287938

Could download it and chop the right bit out.

>>14281996

Rise of the Reds is a great mod. Rebalancing of the 3 original factions, two new factions, new music, new maps, and the addition of naval units. It's a really well made mod. Problem is it's for Generals Zero Hour, and Generals is a mix bag since it's not traditional C&C and more in line with the autistic Korean RTSs.

>>14288826

I get desyncs trying to play RotR online with friends, it happened so frequently we don't try anymore. We just play vanilla Zero Hour when it comes to it.

>>14288044

>>14288785

>>14288791

I still have my raw footage too, (and that's what that webm came from) I just have to find that part again and upload it somewhere.

>>14288009

Aren't there ((("free"))) voip phones you could install in an android emulator? Might be worth a shot.

>>14288908

I need a phone number to do this. I mean, if you guide me to some place where I can do this I'll give it a shot.

also got a quick tutorial in shotcut so I'm going upload >>14288044 cut from original .mp4.

>>14288945

>>14288044

I got tired of trying to replace previous video, so I just removed it. This one is 720p.

>>14288791

>>14288908

Alright here's the full match. Bear with Jewtube as it's still processing the higher qualities.

>>14289106

did you upscale it to 720p (at least)? you won't get 720@60 otherwise

>>14289125

It should be. I have no idea what I'm doing since I'm not a Youtuber. Give me a sec to check.

>>14289221

Hold on. I'll reupload in a sec. I'm trying to see if I can fix the quality.

>>14289234

I meant live and at the time

>>14289242

Then just watch it here: https://files.catbox.moe/zx5zuw.mp4

I'm gonna have to get the resolution fixed so Jewtube won't downscale it.

>>14289164

I'm a dumbass. How do I upscale? I don't have any video editing software.

>>14289299

By editing the video. I grabbed Shotcut in a pinch and it worked (>>14289075 is the result and there IS 720@60) and it's not hard to use. Or you can wait for me to upload it.

>>14289319

Nah I can do it. Now that I know a program to use I should have something ready soon.

So while we wait for me to get the 720p60fps full match uploaded to my Jewtube, how about we talk about something I don't see discussed a lot on the C&C threads. The godlike music.

>>14289408

when's the next match?

also nigga I hope you made it 1024x768 at least

>>14289424

Don't worry I did. It's 720p. I may be retarded but I'm not THAT retarded.

>>14289487

Oh fuck me. Gimme a sec, I'll reconvert it.

>>14289487

I recommended him 768p to have some leeway in case YT is shittier than usual. Plus, it might handle a common resolution a bit better.

>>14289507

If there's a silver lining to this is that it's the perfect way to turn kids off from being Youtubers, because holy fuckknuckles this is tedious shit.

Looks like my channel is just gonna be a dumping ground of webms and mirrors.

Jesus Fucking Christ. That took forever, but the full match is now PROPERLY uploaded now.

>>14289696

Thank you father. Can I come out of the basement now? It's been days since I've seen sunlight.

>>14289408

Tib Dawn best OST.

>>14289634

We really need some new matches to make fun of. And a recorder playing in a normal resolution so you can see shit going on.

>>14290070

Last time the guy recording also had no idea how to play so he missed some important parts, I've got recording set up now so that will be less of an issue.

However changing the resolution won't help that much, in fact it'll be harder to see with a larger resolution because of how old C&C works.

>>14290070

hit up radcorp and see about having more RTS events

>>14290070

Well I'm pretty shit at the game, so if you guys need a punching bag I can be that guy

>>14290090

1080p is still easy to see things in, it's clicking things that gets hard. And a recorded video is rewindable to catch anything you missed. Better than having stuff not on camera.

>>14290220

Where can I watch /v/'s DTA tourneys, if there's more?

>>14290220

Well someone wanna get OBS and volunteer to be a recordfag?

>>14290280

Man it's so weird seeing the other sides of the Gunboat.

>John Cena loves Command and Conquer

WTF I LOVE JOHN CENA NOW

Also, I'll doing more testing with my copy of The First Decade before I upload it for everyone, after homework of course.

>>14291029

Put a pillbox near the ring, he'll lose all matches

Does gray goo count as a C&C game if it was made by mostly the same people?

Is it fun?

>>14291029

I wonder if John Cena mains Steel Talons…

>>14291205

Campaign is fun to play, and the game is good for a giggle with mates, but the online

is as dead as lawbreakers.

>>14291148

>John Cena vs a Pillbox

I'd pay to see that.

>>14292252

Know we are going to have to meme this into reality now right?

>>14292309

Dewit.

Is DTA the only thing played here?

>>14292922

There IS a tiberian sun in red alert 2 mod called C&C Reloaded, and was infact supported for multilplayer in the CNCnet lists for a while. But apparently the dev either died or decided to stop working on it entirely because there hasn't been any update in ages for it, while it still contains plenty of bugs and shit that can destroy your RA2 installation if you mishandle the mod because of a very hacky early version of ARES that was implemented for it.

http://reloaded.cncguild.net/

>>14293082

so assumingly not really worth my time untill it stops being dead or someone else picks it up

>>14293096

It's not necessairly that, you can try it out to check out how it would work out.

Last time i tried it, the factions weren't balanced at all, everything was entirely unfiltered from their original forms in that GDI could still use Carryalls, Disruptors and MammothMK2's to pretty much decimate every opponent. Allies still OP as fuck with Prisms and Rocketeers. Soviets would destroy Yuri and GDI because of Terror Drones. Nod's Cyborg Commando would be the bane of every land unit that wasn't a Mammoth, an Apocalypse tank or a mass of Terror Drones since even the splash damage obliterated tank blobs. Yuri could still use Yuri Prime+Clonevats and capture two of your buildings to sell or use them for his own purposes.

It was pretty fun all around, until you notice that the AI is completely shit even at the hardest level and that you can steamroll everything by just using meme strats.

>>14293415

god fucking GDI disruptor/mam drops is the meta that killed any interest of me playing that tib sun online. you know the game isn't finished when something like that is the key

>>14292913

Fuck you Turret. Your DPS is shit and your shots are projectiles.

Does anyone have that screencap with the Engineer spam in Red Alert?

>>14291029

>He's blimp spammer

I see John Cena got some patrician taste.

>put satellite jammer around my base to hide my master plan

>build 30 blimps while my opponent build shitty landing pad

>send all 30 at once

>watch as my opponent scrambles the jets to take it down

>only 3 blimps survives when it reach the destination

>its all I need to fuck shit up

>>14292892

No. Some of us also play Shockwave and Rise of the Reds. DTA though I find the most fun.

>>14293659

I only recently found this place, what was the nerf?

>A fucking frisbee thrower unit

Real talk now, what the fuck were they thinking with this? Why not just use the damn rocket launchers they had in Tiberian Dawn? This has to be the worst unit design in the game. Shitty aesthetic and mechanics all around.

>>14293659

yep, that's the one, thanks

>>14294170

Didn't they have rocket launcher unit but its on the NOD side? I vaguely remember it but I guess they trying to differentiate the 2 factions, GDI with frisbee unit and NOD with rocket launcher unit

>>14294316

Unnecessary if you ask me, since riflemen, engies and medics are still the same anyway.

>>14294170

>diskthrowers

I remember them tearing everything on the ground up though.

>>14282120

Holy shit, is that the entire C&C series in 1 download? complete with all the FMV? Some uploader remove the FMV from the singleplayer campaign to save space but it just doesn't feel the same without it, I want to feel the same experience when I played it as a kid. Without the FMV, it feels like an empty shell. Kane is so badass and Zofia is hot as fuck

>>14294170

GDI is massively overpowered in Tibsun due to alot of reasons, discthrowers having much greater range and DPS then Nod rocket troops is just the tip to them

>>14294316

it's Brotherhood of Nod not NOD, Nod is the name not some kinda abbreviation

>>14294327

Well, they need something to set them apart otherwise it would just a color swap between the 2 faction. I guess its balance out since rocket unit primarily use to take out aircraft and airborne unit while the disk thrower is for the ground vehicle and that creepy as fuck cyborg unit.

Another question, I just remember something really weird. If your infantry died in a tiberium crystal field thing, they turn into this weird gooey blob that attack anyone, you cant control it or kill it, it just wander around the map and attack anyone that come close to it.

>>14294486

you're thinking of visceroids two of which I created accidentally in tutorial of DTA, because units have piss poor view range. Also Nod fed some more infrantry and they became adults

>>14294538

EA made every game before red alert2 freeware

>>14294518

>>14294524

Yeah that thing, creepy fucking bastard and it eats peoples too.

>>14294518

Speaking of tiberian lifeforms

>free tratos missions

>get a tiberian fiend pet somehow

>good doggo helps us take down noddie scum left and right

>manage to break tratos out

>at the evac GDI deploys wolverines killing the fiend even though he didn't even attack them

Fuck those wolverines. The fiend was helpful unlike any of these faggots were.

>>14294592

Being an impressionable little shit, Tiberian Sun made me think that was what the future was gonna look like

Was scared for days, decided to stop playing until I got older

>>14294668

It pisses me off that they dropped all the tiberian fauna for CNC3. The best they could muster was the visceroids which looked like oversized starfish

At least the tiberian glaciers in the red zones looked cool, as well as the harsh weather effect

>>14294738

in retrospect C&C3 was just Generals in Tiberian universe

Apocalypse futurism > used futurism

>>14294668

Red Alert 2 had great aesthetics too, with its B-Movie and colorful Cold War looks.

>tfw watching your favourite studio died with EA

Very nice documentary, wish it was an official one with more focus on the original creator and studios, feel like they skimped a lot of stuff.

>>14294592

>Veinholes

>stepping on the vines kill your infantry instantly

>keep farting poisonous gas

>can damage tanks and mechs

Moving a large group of army is a nightmare, you know some are bound to go near it and fucking die

>>14294899

Aren't infantry left alone by the veinhole or am I just forgetting how it worked?

>>14294899

That's incorrect. The weeds don't attack infantry, just vehicles and buildings. Remember that Firestorm mission where you had to fight a cult with only a Ghoststalker and Juggernaut?

>>14294912

>>14294943

Oh yeah, I forgot, I haven't played it for years and just now trying to find a working download. I do remember you can target it, not sure if you can kill though

>>14294953

There are two ways they can kill infantry. When the veinhole gets under attack, it starts spewwing out toxic Tiberium gas as self defense. If infantry get too close, the hole itself will eat them as well. What I do to kill holes is just use Orca Bombers or Banshees since the holes can't attack aircraft.

>>14295043

what's the point of remaking this in C&C generals?

also

>crystals in poop

can't unsee

>>14294971

>if infantry get too close the hole will eat them

I guess I never left them near the hole to know that, I always use lots of light infantry and rocket infantry if Nod, disk throwers aren't good for them if I remember well. Hover vehicles are unharmed by it in Twisted Insurrection, I don't know if that's true in the base game too.

>>14294574

It's incredibly underwhelming, not really worth bothering with.

The First Decade in general was disgusting, and it marked the last EA game that I ever bought. The way that EA simply threw the games onto a disc, fixed nothing, improved nothing, supported nothing, and only ADDED more bugs was absolutely abhorrent.

>>14293082

Red Alert 2 x Tiberian Sun sounds awful. There's just too much different in the tone and feel of the games, they are polar opposites.

>>14295097

Is it bad I used to think of Tiberium as cabbages?

>>14295424

Are you saying cabbages are destructive?

>>14295437

Are you saying Tiberium is destructive?

>>14293082

>very early version of ARES

Hunh so that's how I managed to get 3 total conversions running at once. I remember Reloaded being the hook that I needed to start it all up when I was messing around with it, but I never figured it was because one was using an outdated version.

Btw don't attempt that it's not worth the effort.

While you do get literally everything all at once it is a glitchy mess crashes can easily happen but when they don't units just look wonky.

>>14294403

>GDI is massively overpowered in Tibsun due to alot of reasons

such as?

>>14295589

>Disk Throwers

>Wolverines

>Titans

>Orca Bombers

>Upgradable Power Plants

>Mammoth Mk2s

>Carryalls

>Hover MRLS

>Disruptors

>Drop Pods

>Ghost Stalkers

>Juggernauts

See now?

>>14295589

two words

carryall

distruptors

>>14295687

You forgot motherfucking Flint Westwood, fucker can 1 shot any infantry

>>14295702

enjoy, I don't know if that has CnCnet though and if not try https://cncnet.org/

>>14295687

>>14295692

Wolverines can barely fend off Nod Cyborgs

Orca Bombers do fuck all damage unless you build a Flight of The Valkyries

MRLS are only really useful for going over water, they're actually pretty balanced and rather easy to kill with infantry

Though I'll concede the rest. Carryals and disruptions trivialized everything, that is, if we're not talking Firestorm. In normal Tib Sun, Nod Artillery erases everything that isn't an air unit. The moment you start spamming that shit along with rocket soldiers for AA defense, you won.

>>14295735

>drop pod artillery

>arty has to pack up and move or they'll end themselves

>move titains in while they're trying to squish infantry

>>14295752

Just add light infantry escort. Not that hard to spam them either.

>>14295769

you don't really spam infantry in one on one, you do it in 2v2s or higher though

>>14295778

Why not? It's pretty cost effective against drop pods.

>>14295797

getting across the map, inorder to actually field them like that you'd either have to blob your army or have a trail off and no you can't say the transport is worth it for just that

>>14295910

you guarded that road well with your buddy there

>>14295589

Virtually everything of GDI's is better

>Disk Throwers vs. Rockets

Disk Throwers are better against all ground stuff and the bounce can be exploited to kill at high range. Rockets can shoot air, but only Nod has to worry about Air in the first place because only GDI has good air units

>Wolverine vs. Buggy

These are pretty similar I believe

>Titan vs. Tick Tank

Titan has significantly better stats and ability to shoot on the move

>Juggernaut vs. Artillery

Nod's only advantage, but GDI's better mobility makes artillery pushes kind of bad to begin with. Eat bombers.

>Mammoth vs. Commando

Mammoth can be repaired, shoot through shit, directly transportable with Carryall rather than needing to be unloaded from APC.

>GDI bombers vs. Nod Bomber

GDI destroys entire bases. Nod is "balanced"

>GDI Carryall vs. Nod APC

GDI carries stuff that is powerful. Nod might carry 1 commando. GDI can go anywhere that Nod hasn't built 5k worth of sam sites, Nod can go anywhere GDI hasn't built $100 worth of pavement.

And so on

>>14295735

Problem is that people in MP are generally smarter than AI and won't walk into artillery. All GDI needs is an EMP shot to a cluster of artillery and it dies. And you need an absurd amount of air defence to really hurt a bunch of bombers.

>>14296414

You did it wrong.

>>14296426

>>14296432

did i not make the message sarcastic enough or something?

>>14296414

Might want to double-check your math there, nightcrawler.

>>14295735

Cyborgs actually cost more than wolverines at $650, so the Wolverine winning in a 1v1 engagement despite being a $500 unit is REALLY BAD for Nod cost-efficiency wise.

A single bombing run by a lone GDI bomber can destroy a refinery if it hits it from a left-upper/down-right angle for half the cost that it takes 3 Nod Banshees to do the same, while also being faster, less prone of being shot down due to only 2 passes vs 3 passes and having more armor than a Nod banshee to top it off.

HoverMRLS destroys Tick tanks, has enough range to kite out Cyborg Reapers and does insane damage to buildings by itself. It's cost doesn't justify the inability to hit any infantry that isn't Cyborgs though, since a Nod player will always be spamming infantry with how ridiculously strong light infantry is in TS.

>>14296068

>Wolverine vs Buggy

Buggy is faster on even terrain, way way faster when on Pavement. Slower when on uneven terrain, veins or tiberium.

Wolverines have more armor and suffer no slowdowns regardless of terrain except on veins where they are still faster than Buggies, however they turn around slower than Buggies for some reason.

>Tick Tanks

Tick tanks can shoot while moving. They just suck at frontal combat because they have little armor and use projectiles meanwhile Titans wreck shit with their hitscan attacks. But you can totally still use them for all the tactics Titans are good for, such as base rushing, MBT, patrolling, map control, etc.

The other problem about tick tanks is their shit ass burrow-to-get-armor "i'm now a living target please nuke or bombard me" ability also reduces their firerate and their damage vs infantry, though in exchange you get more range which lets you outrange idling Titans with it. Sadly that fact has never been reported to be any useful because the Titans would rather rush out the Tick tanks and eat them for breakfast if they ever deploy near them.

If i were to balance them at all, all their shit is fine as-is for the sole fact that they're a Nod unit. Just reduce the cost to either 650 or 700 credits, cause both Titans and Tick Tanks being 800 while one of them is clearly inferior in every single aspect just screams of retardation or timestring-led oversight from WW at the time. Well, either that or increase its armor just enough so that the burrow ability makes them stand 1v1 vs Titans in equal numbers.

>Juggernaut vs Arti

Juggernauts have more armor and shoot 3 times over per volley. If the Nod player bunches up his artilleries, he's gonna have a terrible time vs massed Jugs in artillery wars because a battery is just going to obliterate everything in their way. They also walk and deploy faster than Nod Arti can move and deploy, though Nod's arti is cheaper so it's not that bad.

>Cyborg Commando

It can actually heal. Just not off the conventional repairpad method. Making it stand on Tiberium slowly replenishes its health back to full, but also makes it a sitting duck and a potential target for bombers.

Oh and by the way? Nod can actually train Medics if they capture a GDI barracks and then sell it off. They keep the tech, which can certainly buff Nod's Commando significantly because they can also heal Cyborgs.

>Nod APC

Very few people actually remember to put pavement, and the few that do realize that most of the maps have small holes near every MCV spawnpoint on most of the default maps, whereas you can't put buildings or pavement on top which lets Nod rush without problems.

That is, until GDI puts on a single RPG tower defending the MCV and WF, then it's gameover for Nod.

And about CarryAll defense. Nod actually has it easy with their SAM sites and specially Rocket troops, since they just have to plop them or move them near and that's it. Other players using GDI fearing Disruptor drops have to click even more with the retarded component tower shit and don't even think HoverMRLS will cut it either, you will need at least six of those motherfucking towers if you want something that can instakill a single carryall. Biggest problem with CarryAll and bombers is how much AA costs versus how many you need to kill a single $750 carryall transporting any meme across the map. Just reduce air units armor to be cost-efficiently countered by anti-air and you fix like half the TibSun meta revolving around Disruptor drops, MK2 tactics and Bomber snipes, while opening up Nod to not be a complete joke.

>>14295863

>>14295844

Top tier gun sounds though.

>want to play DTA or any C&C really with anons after stank memery

>can't because I missed the tourney and shit

>>14286411

>>14286398

>That's the mission where GDI and the Scrin would ignore your units until you attacked, right

I never realized this. This mission was pretty hard without that.

>>14294577

Wasn't these versions missing the music and FMV files?

First Decade Test update:

Doesn't fucking work. One time I got it to work, it kept crashing. Tiberium Sun and Red Alert 2 won't start up cause of "missing dll files". tried the work arounds, didn't work.

Might upload it on request for people who have Windows XP machines. For now, this was just a waste of time.

>>14304329

Did you run it in compatibility mode? I was able to run it in Windows 8 with compatibility mode set to XP. If that won't work, then get an XP VM.

>>14304329

Apply the CnCnet patch.

>>14303845

That's why they give you the Elite Cadre :^)

Some old stuff