/v/ - Video Games

>>14260518

Nice, you used the godot engine.

>>14260495

My work is pretty early in development and needs some time before it can be really playable. Ideally, I'm aiming for a playable demo by next Demo Day. For now, I have a video that gives the general idea of what we're working with and showcasing a bit of the progress done so far. Most of it is under the hood, though. I made this in the past two hours or so and it's really late, so here's a transcript if the text is too fast. I may do a proper topic in /agdg/ and a proper "home base" for this stuff down the line.

Sentience

>Sentience is an experimental RPG featuring some unusual systems. The core of this is in the health and magic of characters.

>Magic is health. There are multiple elements of magic that composes your magic meter below.

>Characters are various creatures with different skills and affinity for certain elements. Their skills rely on certain magic to be casted.

>Plasma magic, for example, is needed for skills themed around fire, lightning, or other similar concepts.

>Skills may infuse or damage a target's magic. If a character's magic supply is entirely empty, they perish from deficiency.

>Also, if the magic supply reaches full capacity, the character will overload and perish from taking more magic than their body can handle.

>Care must go into keeping one's magic supply in check from the threats of environments and enemies that attack.

>Skills, along from being based on the species, are also learnable by attuning to Disciplines, the class system of Sentience.

>A character can be fully focused on their species abilities, or focus on disciplines. This weakens their natural skills but allow for build variety.

>While a character can have as many skills as they collect for their species and Discipline, only a limited amount can be available for use at a time.

>Disciplines and skills may be swapped out in safe areas, but are fixed in wilderness or dangerous areas.

>One must learn of challenges they may find and prepare carefully to venture hostile and unfamiliar environments.

>>14260596

Here's the hosted game info, apparently I can't post both the link and IP in the same post:

EU Game:

Address: 31.52.105.28, Port: 8666

>>14260536

>and to despaghettify it for godot 3.0

that is nice, but did you begin with godot2?

I was looking to porting my project to 3 but it was such a mess

>>14260629

i don't plan to port it but rather to remake it, that is why it was important that it was feature complete, so any hurdles i might find they were found and solved ahead of time. This is of course unrealistic by every metric imaginable and as it is stands now is more of a proof of concept than a demo

>>14260656

going back on topic, here's the abandonware i made for the last demoday

hopefuly everything still works correctly

https://doctard.itch.io/historia

>>14260834

Do it

>>14260596

>I don't have a name yet

Do you take suggestions?

Mine is You Never Die In Hell

>>14260596

We were royalty.

Pretentious indie name with undercover racism. Perfect name.

Thank you to the anon that gave feedback and suggestions. I already made some changes to make server corrections more lax so hopefully jumping doesn't make others want to vomit. I'll leave the server up but I'll be AFK getting shit done.

>>14260874

Suggestions always welcome. The name knocking around in my head right now is Ex Inferis.

>>14260881

I'll be in enough hot water about that /agdg/ swastika.

What swastika ?

>>14260905

>Ex Inferis

ow, the edge

yeah, go for it, oyu want edgy

>>14260913

>not knowing 8ch /agdg/'s official unofficial logo

>>14260596

Hey, I have a problem with your demo on Linux Mint. It says :

"Error Cannot compile pixel shader code: 0:16(15) error no function with name "gammaToLinear"

>>14260991

It's two figures of 8, an infinite knot, and the name simply has 4 characters so we can't really do anything about it.

>>14260999

Huh. What are your specs? Does your hardware support OpenGL 2.1+?

>>14261006

Intel i3 with the integrated graphics card, I think it's hd4000.

>>14261007

That should be enough, let me give you a different one with non-essential shaders taken out and see if that works for you.

>>14261011

>unknown@unknown-X75A ~ $ glxinfo | grep "OpenGL version"

>OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 17.2.4

>>14261014

Can you try this one: https://mega.nz/#!k2xSlYhD!P2AFyjSNVNM7XQbATx5h_129byy3bL9TFyt2VJpfAhQ

Error

class_assetmanager.lua:86: bad argument #2 to 'newImage'(string expected, got table)

>>14261021

Can you check what version of Löve you have installed? I think it might be outdated. It should be 0.10.2

>>14261033

I have 0.9.1, I'm going to purge it.

>>14261035

Sorry for the confusion anon, I'll add that as a note in the readme.

>>14261038

The Mint package isn't up to date.

>>14261040

You might need to add the repository, try this:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bartbes/love-stable
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install love

Again, sorry for the inconvenience I'll try and make sure I've got a bundle for Linux in future.

>>14261056

No worries I got it to work properly, thanks !

>>14261056

Hey, can you tell me how to remap the keys ? I don't have a U.S. keyboard and pressing enter doesn't work.

>>14261062

There's no rebinding right now but the keys are set up to use scancodes, so the controls should still work on foreign keyboards. Let me know if you run into any problems though.

>>14261068

Hey I'm the guy who was in your game just 2 minutes ago and the scancodes sort of work but the key stay binded to the original U.S. keyboard. Your W is my Z but it's still my W key that goes forward.

>>14261115

You mean you could use both your W and Z keys for forward? Or were you forced to still use your W?

>>14261124

No, just my W.

>>14261127

That sucks, I'll look through and see what the problem is and bump up rebinding on my to do list. Thanks for enduring it.

>>14261140

No problems, great demo m8, I hope you make your dream game.

>stickied

Good job Mark. Way to ensure this thread will be fucked.

>>14261154

Thank you, I hope I can make it. Also I was being retarded and not using scancodes for local input and just menu/chat, it should be an easy fix.

>>14261031

Looks fun.

>>14261031

No Linux ?

>>14261220

It depends if GZDoom/Zdoom runs on Linux systems. I don't own a Linux system, so I am not sure!

I think it does.

>>14261229

If it does not work on Linux out the package right now, I will invest try and invest time into creating a Linux version after the retail release, depending how difficult it is!

Is they a reason people don't make a lot of games for Linux?

>>14260947

Quite spicy. Reminds me more of SNES than Hitler, though.

>>14261257

Everyone use Windows so if you want to make money you make games for Windows, that's the logic.

>>14261257

I wouldn't worry about it mate, It's just a doom mod. A TC, sure, but still just a doom mod.

Bundling the engine is fine for normalfags (adventures of square does the same), but most folks who'll want to play on linux should be able to figure it out for themselves.

>>14261031

Thanks!

>demo day

Is it time for some demos?

>>14261956

>tfw I couldn't get this to work last time

Fuck

>>14260596

>>14260598

Dropping hosting for a little while because I need some food and break. If anyone takes up hosting a game please let other anons know in here.

>>14261953

Enjoyed our rants about society.

>>14262133

Don't mind me too much. I sometimes wander off to what could have been.

Here, have an 8kb PC intro.

>>14262127

What specifically happened? I thought I was able to resolve most of the people's issues and got it working.

I'm currently working on some shit in python, using pygame and really enjoying it, 2D shit strictly.

>>14261956

Oh SHIT. I just realized I forgot to push the fix for those damn bats moving when you pause the game! So if you run into that bug well, lol even though I said I fixed it I forgot to include it.

>>14262412

Thats all I can ask for really; I hope the gameplay merits can make my game stand out on its own!

>>14261031

This is pretty dang fun. But I'm getting my ass kicked by these enemies when I try to melee, there must be some trick that I'm missing. I just fry their asses with the gun instead. I did enjoy getting a billion items from this one chest that was guarded by like 10 Goblins though. Having it all spray out like that was really great.

Seems really, fun I'll have to keep playing when I get the time.

>>14260495

>>14262371

>>14262544

You can sidestep the skeletons, slimes, and goblins attack and fit a few swipes in. For the tentacle monsters just ranged them, I don't think there's a way to melee them without getting fucked

>>14262549

There are four stages, so there were two more after that one. The issues you are having with the scaling is likely due to the fact that I have it set to only support 16:9 resolutions right now. This has to do with the implementation of how I'm scaling the resolution down and while I do plan on having it calculate the proper res for 4:3 resolutions, right now it's only working with 16:9. The launcher shouldn't have given you the option but its possible I made a mistake there.

I'll try shrinking the text down on the opening in future builds. The reason it has those black bars is because the menu graphics(IE the maps, the menu, and the intro) are all made in SNES native resolutions, which I was doing as a gimmick. Maybe I'll put some sort of graphic on the sides like pillars or something.

As for the last part, are you saying that you mistook the lighter colored background for a platform? I can kinda see how that might happen now that I think about it, since the actual platforms are too similar in color. I'll probably either darken those background bits or lighten the ground bits.

>>14262588

Yeah those tentacle guys were just messing me up every time no matter what I tried. I figured out how to fight the goblins better but I just started avoiding the skeletons and tentacle guys since I found I could just outrun them.

>>14262588

>>14262608

You are right you can simply outrun the enemies in the overworld. Also, that anon is right: Don't try and melee the ropers. It is possible, but I wouldn't recommend it!

>>14262530

I am glad you like that inclusion. The final version of the game has A summon for each elemental weapon; so they are 5 other summons in the game!

>>14261031

Wasn't doing so hot with the Thief, switched to Warrior and had much better luck.

The berserk mechanic I found neat due to its regen effects, and the shotgun felt great to use!

Made it past the graveyard puzzle before killed by a greedy goblin ambush, looking forward to playing the rest so I can experience >>14262530

Also really digging the artstyle and music.

If any of you fucks get famous you better not do a Notch on us.

>>14262653

I am not sure if you read the books in the libary, but the cross bow and earth tome have special qualities to them. The Crossbow, if you shoot it when it blinks white, does critical damage. The Earth Tome shoots more in less spread if you dont charge it.

I am glad you like the overall art style though. Its inspired by Camelot Games old stuff

>>14262670

Ah, okay! Appreciate it!

>>14262689

>I'd buy 8chan just so I can gas mark and imkikefy

And then you'd have to run /v/ and /pol/

That's a task I wouldn't put on my worst enemy.

>>14261956

I only got partway through the second level before I was ultimately too bored to bother continuing. I have to agree with >>14262549 about the text being awful to read. The main menu's text is too blended into the background around the edges. Anything small, like level intro text, can be barely made out. I also noticed a lot of jittering in prologue text scroll, along with jittering in some of the parallax backgrounds. As far as gameplay is concerned, it functions well enough, but the lack of a crouch swing is baffling. The pc also jumps up way too fast, to the point it's impossible to time any attacks during the upswing. During a jump, attacks only come out at the peak of the arc or coming down from it.

During the boss of the first stage, the hit effects were way too overblown. The screen doesn't need to shake with every swing that connects. The sound also felt too dramatic.

As >>14262549 also pointed out, on the second level, there's way too little distinction between platforms and background elements. Don't ever make parts of the background the same color as platforms you're supposed to stand on. This was especially confusing with the trees, as they had darker portions to them. This gives the implication that the darker portions are intangible background tree, and the lighter portions are tangible foreground tree.

That's all I feel is worth pointing out in the current state of the game. Things like enemy behavior and placement, I would criticize, but a lot of the problems feel more like things you haven't gotten to, rather than outright mistakes or bad design choices.

>>14262860

I forgot to say that I was running in 16:9 resolution.

>>14262689

Thanks for the feedback. Löve uses enet which as far as I know is built on UDP. It should work on Linux but I've not got around to testing that locally. Once I start making packages for Linux I'll start including Linux in my testing more.

Also I forgot to note that the second link has fixed chat while hosting a server: https://mega.nz/#!k2xSlYhD!P2AFyjSNVNM7XQbATx5h_129byy3bL9TFyt2VJpfAhQ So anyone that wants to try hosting should use this version instead.

>>14262913

You're not going to wonder why he needs 2 1080's to play minecraft?

>>14263155

He's modding it heavily to have it with one of the Mods that overhauls the graphics to give it realistically depicted shadows and lighting and also affecting shading and color. You need a beefy machine for that.

>>14262371

Reposting the link because I forgot to link the anchor post. >>14260495

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1scOqv11FkgCp0ajLJRvztmej6STAgX4e

>>14260596

I thought Love was only 2d? what the fuck. Just one question, why not Doom or Build, both are open source, both are feature rich, and both have strong documentation.

>>14263203

Love2D is a framework that runs on Lua. It's certainly oriented towards 2D but if you write the 3D functionality yourself (or use an existing library, which there are plenty of), it'll support it. Hell, you could probably tie it into the 2D functions as well.

As for why that anon's doing it, I couldn't tell you. But hey, I've seen platformers in RPG Maker, so I don't question it.

>>14263246

My game has a lot of silly secrets like that, so I would recommend keeping your ears open for them!

>>14263270

Oh whoops, that is a spelling mistake. I gotta fix that!

>>14263203

A lot of my motivation for making it is learning. I wanted to learn how to implement things in a similar way to Doom/Build so I have a better understanding that I can then apply to other things. Although I've done a lot of running in circles wasting time since I originally used BSP trees then dropped that for more Build-like system with portals. For example, learning how to compile BSP trees made it easy for me to apply that sort of knowledge to doing raycasts for the hitscan weapon that work through sectors. If I used someone else's solution I don't think I'd learn as much or as in depth. I understand if people see that as a waste of time for the end result of making one game but I think it gives me more tools to make better future games.

Using Löve is mostly convenience because I was already familiar with it and I'm pretty productive in Lua. There aren't any real rendering limitations if you extend it or roll your own things like previous anon said.

>>14263270

>have a go with some of uncooked ham

Did you miss that one?

>>14263416

Is that wording weird too?

>>14263416

I just read the first part, took a screenshot, and then posted.

>>14263067

Hey dude I like ray tracing and I've seen your posts, you could use it to pre-render assets for a different engine

>>14263473

realtimerealtimerealtimerealtime

there has to be a way to speed this up there always is there must be failure is not an option

>>14262860

>>14262965

Thanks for the feedback, I always value it highly. The text issue you guys noted was something I actually put in my linked thread as a known issue. Perhaps I should have posted it here as well. It's using the font from the main title screen which isn't suited for that small of a font size. I just haven't gotten around to making or finding a good one that will work yet, it's low priority at the moment.

Some of the issues you mention are due to the overall design of the game though, which some people don't find appealing. I'm imitating many things from the original Castlevania games on the NES and some things, like not being able to hit very low as you're jumping up, are carryovers from it intended to make the player more cautious about when they jump. But like I said, not everyone likes that style of gameplay and I'm aware it's pretty niche.

The lack of the crouch swing and the platform coloration issue is definitely inexcusable though, and I'll be changing them soon.

>>14261031

By the way, one other thing I noticed is that there are quite a lot of grammar and sentence structure issues that you should run by some sort of editor before releasing. Certain things are said like "x was done by the king, king essay…" which is very awkward sounding, and like others have pointed out there are some other minor grammar issues. So just as a note, you should try and get some editor to run through the text and tidy these up, it'll make the presentation of dialogue as professional as the rest of the presentation.

>>14263524

I am aware that they are many grammatical issues. I was hoping for anons to point out some of them so I can fix them.

>>14263437

Yeah, it should either be "some of the uncooked ham" or "some uncooked ham"

Using just of there doesn't make any sense.

>>14263490

There is a way (although for path tracing instead of ray tracing) which has been used by a few researchers, but the result is still too noisy currently. Vid related.

Some of the things done to get this speed:

>data oriented design

>manual SIMD, instead of letting the compiler do it

>multithreading obviously

>BVH

Of course all of that combined with something like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znr1JJLI5uY might make it doable already.

>>14263512

But I know I've used used the rise of a jump to aim weapons in classicvania. That's why I tried to do it in your game. I generally find it easier to aim with the rising arc of a jump than the falling arc.

>>14263547

A major part of the problem with real time path/ray tracing is that consumer grade GPUs have crippled drivers that lock off some of the functions needed to do it at high speed. $10k professional GPUs are less powerful versions of the same chipset, but they get to use drivers that are actually good.

>>14263547

>data oriented design

oh god, i know this is going to be disgusting by the end, but that's why i have RegenerateObjectCache

>multithreading

that was on my GPU, cpu multithreading might be useful for BVH regeneration

>BVH

next thing i'm going to work on is this

my tiny quadro m3000m will prevail

>>14262913

>why does he have two instances of minecraft open?

What would you do if you were eleven and had two 1080TI's and three monitors?

>>14263547

>>14263490

There's some pretty impressive denoising filters in the works.

>>14263619

read >>14261003

>>14263616

that's not really for raytracers, that's for a pathtracing, which naturally has noise due to the random nature of the process.

i'm going to implement all sorts of rendering methods though, once this runs at a tolerable spped

>>14263635

speed*

fuck

>>14263367

Great, Keep at it then, it looks good.

>>14263729

actually, Throw is suppose to be abbreviated as THRW. its the same with DRGN too.

I will make sure to tweak all this stuff though.

>>14261953

you don't know how tempted i am to make a demo using my raytracer, even if it'll be late

>>14260495

>>14264126

Whoops

>>14263556

Ahh I wasnt aware, the items may be faster in those games than I thought. I haven't played in a while. Maybe I'll try speeding the animation up somewhat.I'll play around with things, there's probably a middleground to this that I'm missing.

>>14264186

I mean, maybe I'm misremembering, but I swear you could do it. I don't think it worked with the whip too well, because of the delayed swing, but I'm pretty sure subweapons came out fast enough for it to happen.

>>14263896

>second enemy dropped a gold pitchfork

A way to see keybindings would be nice. Also tabbing out froze the game for me.

I was having fun before that though, the ridiculous weapon names are a nice touch. The automap is functional, which is as good as a compliment a map can get. It'll be nice to see this fleshed out more.

>>14263896

damn anon, pretty impressive,

you must have been working non-stop these last few days to get this done

>>14261031

If I were to make a suggestion, I'd suggest making melee combat more interesting since you'll be doing so much of it because alchemy and magic points are so hard to come by. Maybe have combos like Demonsteele.

>>14264142

How is making an FPS controller in Godot?

>>14265187

Easy enough. Need help with anything?

>>14265355

==one more thing== (before I get buried)

Click the portal button when you spawn in to teleport to a map with actual mobs on it.

The mobs are 'north' (does that even make sense in space?) of the gate on the 'training' map.

>>14265346

Nah, just asking because I know Godot 3 is the first version where the 3D engine isn't shit so I just wanted to know if it was any more difficult than other engines. Specifically Unity because of transferring over that C# knowledge

>>14265428

Unity is a pile of shit from the screenshots I've looked at. Godot makes sense and is simple yet powerful enough to handle for my purposes.

>>14265346

I would love to learn Godot and eventually migrate away from Unity. The first impressions of Godot I like but I just can't wrap my head around it or get comfy. Is there a particular mindset to go in with? Seems loose and flexible and 3.0 looks exciting, but I just don't know where to really start coming from my background in Unity with familiarity in normal programming in C-languages.

>>14260548

It looks really interesting. I like the lizard-dino dude, animations are really smooth. Keep up the good work.

>>14265786

I'm gald you're still posting, anon. I haven't played a good diabloclone in a century. Really liking the progress so far.

>>14266225

We have NASA North American Speed-running Association though.

>>14266238

no i hate americnas

>>14266239

Then it's a good thing we also have the ESA European Speed-runner Assembly.

>>14266250

No.

>>14260538

I feel like if you could make the characters either really unique or customizable you'd have a winner on your hands. Figure out a specific gimmick and that should inform the rest of the design.

>>14263896

I've been craving a Diablo 1 inspired game for decades!

>>14266214

No sound yet; LIKO-12 is still a work in progress and doesn't have a sample editor or music tracker yet.

Threads gonna be unstickied soon.

It's the 3rd after all

>>14266997

What a shame. I was expecting more demos but this selection is all quite nice.

>>14266997

Seems like this was less eventful than the last one, but at least I hope the anons that posted got some good criticism and advice.

>>14261102

This is adorable and infuriating.

>>14267021

>Work takes up time that I had set aside for gamedev, which puts me behind schedule on finishing content for Demo Day

>In the mad rush to finish said content, discover not one, but three game-breaking bugs.

>Spend so much time fixing them that I wind up too far behind schedule to actually finish the content, and releasing it in its current state would just kill interest.

Such is gamedev, but the lesson is learned.

>>14267490

>GZDoom, unfortunately until some new parts come in I cannot play any GZDoom built games. It's not your fault it's the guy who works on GZDoom's fault. Fuck him.

that may not happening due to the caco awards scaring graf away. That may be a good or bad thing, but that screen shot is a little disappointing considering It should be as graphically intensive as a N64/Dreamcast game. I hope GZDoom gets improved.

>>14267521

I can play N64 and Dreamcast games just fine. GZDoom uses the latest OpenGL which isn't even readily adopted yet. For no reason I might add. On top of cutting off backwards support to add icing to the cake. It sucks too cause I wanted to play that fully 3D game a while back too.

>>14267585

>>14267555

The issue here is that whoever replacing him may be much worse then him, so who knows whats going to happen next. I am just going to stick with GZDoom 3.2.0 until things start to look up a bit.

>>14267585

I don't know anything about low level graphics programming, but why does he think GZDoom needs Vulkan support?

>>14268124

So that he can claim his shitty port uses modern rendering feature while actually using none of that which he does it right now with OpenGL 3.0

>uhh look at it fellow doomers you should try out GZDoom today! It is a modern source port for your computer!

>it uses modern rendering technology(tm)

>"But I shouldn't need a computer that runs Crysis 5 just to run Doom!" - and you'd be right. If you want to just play Doom on a system that could run the original, "vanilla" engine, then you can still do so and just play Doom with its original engine. If you want, however, to play modern GZDoom mods that push the Doom engine far beyond its original limits while enabling all sorts of effects that the original doom.exe never offered

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=56740

Now what brings their modern rendering technology to the table? A dynamic lighting that is still broken were it causes seams all the time and the new shadow maps rendering looks like ass too. Gimmicky bloom effect, dynamic lights are still limited to point lights only so modders that want to have a flashlight would need to create several point lights and more.

Doomsday uses OpenGL 2.1 and has more fancy rendering methods, but sadly still no decorate like support to this day.

>>14267608

Yeah you have some point, I don't have much faith in Rachael that it is going improve GZDoom in any sane ways. In fact that cunt thinks that Graf is a great programmer.

>>14268124

He suffers from the same problem 3DRealms did with DNF. He keeps wanting to use the latest, most advanced tech, even though it's a really stupid idea.

>>14268408

Thats because the door is an actor, and has a square hitbox. Unfortunately in the GZDoom or Zdoom engine you can not specify the X and Y radius separately for an actor.

>>14268409

They is a solution to this room, but I will give you the answer in a spoiler. Look behind the waterfalls in the room.

Also, Ropers are suppose to be difficult to melee. You are not suppose to melee everything.

>>14268506

I had looked there but that lever blends in really well.

For that letter puzzle what am I supposed to enter to get the optional treasure? I tried "open sesame" but it didn't work. Is it broken or is there some other answer. I also suggest putting a raised platform to make it easier to see the letters. And putting the answer to save the queen in an optional dialogue with a guard is a bad idea. Maybe work it into the dialogue with the king bee because if I had decided not to talk to random npcs it would have been really frustrating.

And what am I supposed to do after saving the queen? Does the demo end there?

>>14268718

>Does the Demo end with saving the queen?

Why would the demo end on an optional quest?

> Maybe work it into the dialogue with the king bee because if I had decided not to talk to random npcs it would have been really frustrating.

You should be talking to NPCs to begin with. In your first run, it'd be a bit silly to just skip though all the dialogue now, wouldn't it, especially in a game like this?

Heres the hint to the puzzle though. OPENSESAME does work, but I think you spelt it wrong.

Another Hint here. OPENSESAME is not the only answer to the word puzzle

I will look into putting a raise platform though to help with the puzzle, but you do get a good view of such things during the cut scene itself.

>>14268408

>>14268753

That was an optional quest? I thought that one seemed like a main quest and the mandrake place seemed like an optional one. Is the mandrake boss where it ends then?

I tried the letter puzzle again and neither opensesame nor hocuspocus opened the door on the right. Also I have 3 keys in that dungeon and I don't see anywhere to use them.

>>14268894

The Mandrake boss is also optional. And the 3 Keys are used in the main rain with the water in the centre after the big stair way at the start of the dungeon.

Also, those SHOULD work, I am not sure what you are doing wrong?

>>14267490

>two links, one given to try and resolve a shader error an anon had

>20+ versions

Now that's some hyperbole anon.

>>14267490

Cheers anon, Dash Blitz's primary goal is fast, fluid and fun, so I'm glad that's coming across.

I do need to clean up #1's swings a bit, the hitboxes generally match his animation but still feel a bit small.

The time attack stages are character-specific challenges, they're not meant to be especially difficult - think like Break The Targets in Smash. A fun distraction but I wouldn't want those to be too hard, the challenge is on coming back and doing it faster. And #1's stage is a tutorial on top of that.

The meat of the game is fighting with other players or AI. If you want more to play, you can change characters and set up your opponents in the lobby, then go fight in the stages to the left. Just remember you're activating every teleporter, background button and item the same way and the rest should be self-explanatory.

>>14269318

You already opened the thing with OPENSESAME its the cage in the front!

>>14269421

You learn the solution to that at In the full game

>>14261031

>shop

Where? There's an empty magic place and the tavern's got nothing. I've also killed just about every pig in the forest and stolen all the meat from the castle as well as stolen the pie from the windowsill. Where the fuck do I go for HP items?

>>14269805

When you reach the shop in the next town it will open of those closed gates in the magic shop in the first town. I was confused about this too. Maybe there should be a sign explaining how it works inside the magic shop or some in universe reason why the gates are closed at first.

>>14269847

Where's the next town? So far I'm stuck at the golden chest trap in the middle of the woods and I have no health items as the gunslinger. Which means I'm pretty much a glass cannon. Also can you level up?

>>14269889

The next town is pretty much straight east from the castle, but you have to do some puzzles before you can access it. You can buy stat boosts in the shop.

>>14269889

You level up your equipment by spending gold at the shops. The Town is found within the Misty Forest.

Also, you can heal at the tavern by sleeping in the bed the Bartended lady tells you to use. You can also Heal and Regain mana by sleeping in tents in the over world.

>>14269966

You mean through the graveyard? If that's the case I'm fucked. I have no health items and I have to complete the trap section to get the golden key.

>>14269977

Fuck it. I just went god mode and moved on. The pigs should respawn or something. If I didn't have god mode I would have had to load back several saves.

>>14270050

I had the same problem with getting stuck without healing items. Before the mandrake boss there's no way to go back. I didn't even realize I would have to fight a boss when I went there. In the dungeon enemies spawn on your way back from getting keys, even in areas that didn't have enemies before and in ways that are particularly difficult. For example in the section with crushing ceilings there's a roper that spawns right next to you right before you need to stop and time your movement, then there's one of those teleporting wizards that instagibs the imp and you have very little room to dodge his shots.

>>14270096

The enemies need work that's for sure. As well as my weapon not firing where the target is but that might be an aspect ratio problem or something.

>>14270096

But you can sleep in the Inn or In the Tents in the Overworld Forest. You can also walk back from fighting the Mandrake Boss which teleports you out of the Dungeon. If you are worried about being killed, maybe put your points into Defense.

>>14270050

The pigs re-spawning would make the game overly easy.

>>14270133

>The pigs re-spawning would make the game overly easy

1 pig per pig area or something then. Either way you can't have finite health items before your first shop and then put a tough fight in between that.

>>14270133

The problems is that at that point if I wanted to sleep at the in or buy healing items or buy defense I would have to fight through the difficult section that I needed more health for or reload a save from way earlier. If there's enemies in front of me I can go back. If I'm locked in a room with enemies that I'm not ready for I can load a save from a minute ago. If there's suddenly enemies behind me I can only go through them or load a save from 10 minutes ago.

There's no indication that the doorway in the mandrake room leads outside of the dungeon, it just doesn't make sense that the door you just walked through will lead anywhere other than where you came from. So instead of walking through the door I loaded a save from 10 minutes earlier.

>>14268506

>using spoilers for spoilers

YOU FUCKER

>>14266664

the gun and the camera are using the same parent so it looks more static, the shaking happens because I forgot forgot to cull the extra floating point numbers

i'm also using an animation to aim instead of using transforms and having the animation mimic the movement which makes the problem worse than it should be this is high on the re do queue

>>14266732

it seems that that character forgot to deactivate itself, the shooting rate has two modes, active(player controlled) and passive(ai controlled) and here is using the active shooting rate.

>>14267490

enemies aim through walls because I'm a terrible programmer and couldn't get visibility to work on time without hard coding everyone or implementing complex math which i couldn't anyway because I'm a retard

>even my own guys were aiming

i was sure i eliminated that, but it seems like i didn't, is just a checkbook somewhere but still need to find it

overall i would like to thank and and apologize to everyone that tested my unfinished and buggy mess, it was unfair to ask your time to test that incomplete demo and not warn you on its shortcomings.

also found out that ending turns while jumping would not terminate properly and you get basically infinite turns ****, similar bug for ending while aiming at a character

one complaint i didn't get was the UI, so i will count that as a success and put it on my resume

sorry for the late replies, i got nervous and closed the thread

>>14261956

How the fug did you get pixel-perfect rendering in unity?

>>14272934

If people are interested, I'll probably post a giant guide on how to do it on my website. It's fairly involved but once you nail it down it's actually a pretty simple solution. The only issue is that it's pretty difficult to remove the jittery nature if set your native resolution too low and then scale up too high(this is what people were noticing with my opening scrawl earlier).

>>14267490

Wow what a champion, all this feedback. Thanks for the feedback. I've been trying to adjust the jumping over time. Since at the last demo day people didn't like how floaty and slow the jumping was, I sped it up this time. Is it just the speed of the jumping that's at issue, or is it something else? I feel like a lot of people have an issue with it but no one can ever articulate exactly what it is.

I'll keep fiddling with it, but I feel like maybe adding more "hang time" at the peak of the jump might help.

>Memoirs of Magic

Okay, either I'm retarded, or something's up with my copy of the game, or maybe there's a huge joke everyone else is in on but me.

But how in the fuck am I supposed to replenish my AP?

I got one AP potion starting off, along with ones for HP and MP, and I remember someone saying "good luck with those freebies, getting new ones is expensive", but I'm just gonna have to take that at face value, because I can't find a single person or place to buy new ones. The magic shop is a completely empty room, so no help there, and the library mentions that increasing your AP is necessary in one book but never explains how to do it.

Also, goblins: they steal your gold with their attacks, and they steal a lot of gold with their attacks, but when you kill them you don't get your gold back. Guys talk about how health restoring items are a limited resource, but losing 100-250 gold per goblin and being unable to retrieve it is almost as bad.

Melee combat needs reworking one way or another, because with magic and alchemy both limited resources, it's gonna be your main go-to for most of the game. And while it's fair to expect taking some damage when you're getting close and personal, what's not cool is having a hitbox so small that most of your attacks just swish right over a slime or armadillo's head. Or maybe they're not hitting because I'm not close enough. Either way, the melee hitbox should be a little bigger.

>>14274076

pick gunslinger if you want a low damage revolver, otherwise you're almost right. not sure if the other classes can make ammo but the gunslinger can make ammo but I have no idea how to use the enhanced shells on

>>14274076

>>14274187

I sort of concerned that I may actually have to dumb down the difficulty a bit. Maybe at the start, at least, since it seems quite difficult for you (I probably make it so the goblins only spawn at the start). However, I am concerned since a few of the complaints about difficulty can be avoided, such as storing your money in the bank (and thus it can not be stolen). Also, it is stated how to increase your AP; you take the Intelligence upgrade, bought at the shop. As also stated, the Actual Shop entrance is at the village.

>>14274322

He was asking how to refill AP, not just increase the maximum. I guess it makes sense that resting wouldn't give you ammo, but it also doesn't make sense that a potion would give you ammo. And it's just weird that the only way to refill it is with a consumable.

>>14274951

>but it also doesn't make sense that a potion would give you ammo.

Its actually the only potion that doesn't make a gulping sound when you drink it, since you don't drink the Alchemy Potion!

The only way to Refill AP though is to use the Green Alchemy Potion.

>>14274523

Hey man, I'm really glad you enjoyed playing it. Music is definitely a very high priority thing for me right now, but it's something I want to do especially right so I've been trying to find the right person, and trying to find the funding I'm going to need to pay them. Rest assured I will be cutting zero corners in that regard.

>>14274021

>but no one can ever articulate exactly what it is.

When you hit jump but not forward you cannot move forward in the air even a little bit, that is the problem.

>>14276242

That's mostly a design choice though. And I accept that there's a large number of people that don't like that style, but its an intentional design choice that the game is built around(ie to force the player to consider their jumps).I did play with allowing minor jump control in a previous build but then the fans of the old school style didnt like that, so Inended up just sticking to my guns on that. For what its worth though, I have planned each level based around the idea so there arent necessarily unfair challenges due to the lessened control. Its all possible.

>>14276299

You're just going to have to tweak it until it works then, some people will always give it the tank controls treatment. Keep that in mind.

>>14276527

Gotcha. I've mostly accepted that as an inevitability really, its the case for basically any type of game at the end of the day. Even with Dragon Ball Fighterz, it has all the competitive depth of anything other team fighter but because it uses nonstandard inputs there's still a group of people that dismiss it. Still, I'll keep tweaking and messing around to find the best middleground I can.

>>14276299

Consider something like La-Mulana. You're committed to walking jumps, unless you hit a wall. A standing jump means you can't move, until the highest part of the jump where you can change direction. What you might not want to copy is that doing that last thing will give you full air control (used in certain falling puzzles).

It's not as realistic, and people still tend to complain about it at first, but it opens more interesting possibilities and feels really good once you're used to it.

>>14277325

It's been spammed on every thread. Mods were deleting last night but their asleep I guess.

>>14277953

That's not how it works.

>>14277953

What are you making?

Hey, its MoM anon again. Based on a few of the common concerns for MoM, I devised a to do list to perhaps make the start of the game a bit more forgiving. I want to thank you all for your critique that you have shared!… Heres what I am thinking of tweaking! (I will also post this in the main AGDG thread.)

- Have an NPC tell you in the first city that enemies within the Land of Magic are optional, and can be fled from

- Have no Goblin Encounters until the first dungeon is cleared

- Include an Extra Alchemy Potion within the Grave Diggers hut

- I could perhaps have it so that you can Use the Death Cap, Mandragora and Nitro Gel to get minor benefits (10 Mana, 10 Health, 10 AP). This would give them a use if you are not playing as the Imp or Mage!

- IF the Ropers are Still difficult after all this, I will nerf their health down to half… but ONLY for the first area. Afterwards they will still retain their 250 HP. They may be easy after all the above changes

- I may exclude ropers from Spawning in the Land of Magic until After the first Dungeon.

Were they any other concerns I should adjust?… I think people wanted me to raise the platform for the First Dungeon to make the puzzle a bit more easier to solve.

>>14277953

Not even speebot made more than like 10 sales and I'm the only one playing it in the recent month

>>14265355

>Oh hey I'm making an MMO

Bold dream anon

>>14263896

I played your demo twice over and I'm really digging the vibe so far. I'll give you proper feedback in the agdg thread

>>14298617

thanks, bro. Really appreciate it. Hope you'll forgive me my my ramblings on the lore