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Monster Hunter World

>Despite the lack of a number, World was developed with the intent of being "Monster Hunter 5" and was built specifically to target foreign audiences who found the series too challenging.

>Like all first releases of a generation, World only goes up to High Rank. Capcom has not confirmed or denied whether G Rank content will be made, or how it will be released if it is.

>World has the first instances of paid DLC in the franchise. All paid DLC thus far has been cosmetic, and thus far all announced monster-related content is free.

>There is no longer a Village/Gathering Hall distinction. All quests can be done multiplayer. By the same token, players can no longer take on "multiplayer" quests solo, since when in single player the difficulty is set lower, and only switched to the higher difficulty if other players are present. Like in previous titles, it's a purely single/multi distinction, so difficulty is the same regardless of number of players

>Online servers are now region-free, so JP players can play with foreign players and vice versa. Filters can be set by language.

>World is rather story-intensive even compared to 4, with a large amount of cutscenes both between and during hunts. Cutscenes are unskippable. Voice acting in actual languages appears for the first time in the franchise, though traditional "Monster Hunter" language can also be enabled.

>HP damage numbers that indicate how much damage attacks do appear for the first time. They can be turned off.

>Glowing green bugs highlight interactable objects on the screen and guide the player to the monster. The ability to track monsters starts weaker and increases the more experience they gain until they at all times display a monster's position. They cannot be turned off.

>An in-game wiki-like feature has been included that gives rough estimations of weak points and drop rates.

>World launched with 30 large monsters. For comparison the most recent non-G Rank Monster Hunter titles, 4 and X/Generations, had 51 and 69 respectively. Patches will be released to up the monster count, with the first set for sometime in the spring to add Deviljho.

>Armor is no longer distinguished between Blademaster and Gunner. Regardless of weapon any armor can be equipped, with melee weapons giving a defensive boost and ranged weapons giving an elemental resistance boost.

>Armor Skills no longer require a base threshhold of points to activate, even a single point in a Skill is enough to activate it, with the effect increasing at higher levels. There are no Minus Skills. Further, some Armor sets have "set bonuses" that activate when wearing multiple pieces of the same set.

>New tools that can be used an infinite number of times with a cooldown between uses. Effects range from providing periodic healing to status resistance, even up to stealth effects and damage negation.

>Due to the removal of loading screens between zones, maps are about 2-2.5x the size of previous titles.

>Each map now has multiple base camps, which can be freely teleported to at any time when not in combat.

>Base camps allow the player to restock on all items freely throughout the hunt, as well as change out gear wholesale, including any items on cooldown. Players can eat multiple times per hunt at base camps as well.

>Bowguns can now be fired and items used "on the move." For instance, Potions no longer require the player to stand still, and with a slight loss of speed the players can even run while drinking. As a caveat, healing is no longer instant, and occurs throughout the duration of the drinking part of the animation.

>Whetstones, Bug Nets, and Pickaxes are no longer consumable items, instead simply being infinite use.

>Combinations can be "preprogrammed" to run automatically, allowing players to combine for more Potions or ammunition without needing to find a safe opening to open the menu.

>Areas now contain environmental traps that can restrain monsters or knock them into other areas. Some of these can affect the player as well.

>Regardless of other gear, all players now have a "Slinger" to fire off items that were previously thrown as projectiles, as well as to interact with the environment as a grappling hook for travel or to utilize environmental traps.

>Some monsters will ignore the players entirely until attacked, and monsters will at times ignore the players even mid-battle in favor of entering short interactive cutscenes where they battle other monsters, dealing large amounts of damage to them and possibly incapacitating them.

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What's a good dragon element IG? I'm looking at Giant Nerd's and it seems pretty good, I just don't feel like fighting him again so soon because he's a massive faggot.

Let's open the new thread with a joke.

>>14259628

This is quality.

Who wants MHW, I got one more PSN code.

>>14259698

I've got a friend who's been wanting a copy since I've been sending him pics from it.

>>14259698

ill suck ya dick

hunting horn is le.gs o/nly

>>14259418

IIRC the rule is either page 13 or bump limit.

>>14259849

Hang yourself

>>14259849

Yeah but like what's that from

>>14259927

okay

>>14259849

Maybe later, if I feel better!

>>14260041

brutal

>>14260041

Elderseal prevents/removes powered-up effects on dragons, like Kushala's wind barrier or Kirin's charged mane. No idea what it does for Nergi.

>>14260041

Shoulder tackle is such a broken move.

>>14260041

What happened to GS? No, really nigga.

Not even baiting. Someone explain this shit to me. Where are the fucking charges?

>>14260284

>49 total

This rustles my jimmies. But I guess at this point it's just yet another mark against world.

>>14260284

You should be comparing it to the base games, not the g versions. It's still on the lower end of the scale even considering that though, but it's not nearly as drastic.

>>14260254

Normal Charge, Super Charge, and True Charge or something, that shoulder tackle can be used to cancel charges into the one above, so if you wanted to true charge the fastest it'd be shoulder tackle, cancel super with tackle into true.

>>14260364

Shoulder tackle is a free block with earplugs that gives you a charge level and also moves you forward.

I love it but it makes playing GS braindead easy.

>>14260284

Capcom couldn't get away with reusing the same 10 decade-old assets this time, smart guy.

>>14260391

>free block with earplugs

fucking WHAT, I thought it was reduced damage or something when I heard the sound but an outright block is fucking ridiculous.

>>14260419

View MHW the same as Gen/XX. Something that you wouldn't play if there was an actual mainline game out, but there isn't, so this is all you've got.

I've been enjoying it a lot more than what I should be tbh. I've played since 3u and the only thing holding it back from being better than XX and Gen is the lack of unique monsters. All despite how easy it is, but I'm no speedrun WR setter and also using weapons I've never used before thanks to playing on a controller.

The only reason not to enjoy MHW is because you've been playing since the PS2 days or you're some retarded monkey that can't help but parrot other retarded fucking mong opinions while simultaneously being a shitter. The sheer amount of people I've seen complain about the game while at the same time complaining about a bunch of shit literally made to support shitters is astounding. They're complaining about this shit they could stop or simply not use, but simply because of the fact that you can use it means the game is hot garbage.

I support fucking anything MH related as long as it gets it off the fucking 3DS.

>>14260451

>I thought it was reduced damage or something

It is, you even see the guy take like 40 damage from Nerg's sidescraping. It does block roars though.

>>14260451

Ok block is an exaggeration, its just super armor.

It's still incredibly useful though. You can use it between wide swings to reposition yourself, you can use it to cancel charges and move forwards if you're out of range and move on to the next level of charge as well.

I pretty much never stop using it because why the fuck not?

>>14260451

>better than Gen/XX

That's not saying much.

>>14260469

>cancel charges

u wot

>>14260093

Stay mad, fag.

>>14260284

Don't forget that they have an entirely new classification called endemic creatures now which are like frogs, birds, rabbits, beetles, etc. They dont really do anything but give you research points or be pets though except for the environmental trap frogs.

>>14260537

There are 3 types of charges. You can skip charges to move to the next one with the handle bump attack.

>>14260463

>you even see the guy take like 40 damage from Nerg's sidescraping

That's the damage he dealt to Nerg through the dash, there's no numbers for monster dealt to hunter damage.

>>14260469

Ah alright

>>14260537

That shoulder tackle can be used to cancel charges into the next tier. MHW has three charges, something like charge, super, and true. You can shoulder tackle from charge to skip that charge tier. So if you pull R2 and the press circle, it'll do normal charge, but then cancel it into the tackle, which you can enter super charge from, which you can tackle out of into true charge.

<R2>O>R2>O>R2

Means you're on the highest damage charge level. Even with charge canceling, you have to wait for the hunter to put it on their shoulder and do that little bob to start the actual charge before canceling it, so it's not like you can super quickly get into the true charge attack.

>>14260567

>That's the damage he dealt to Nerg through the dash

Yeah, if that's what the number that popped up had said but you can clearly see the tackle did 10 damage to Nerg and it's not what I referenced to begin with, I was just eyeing the HP gauge. On a 2nd look it looks more like 20-25 damage though.

>>14260581

Sorry.

It's 10:30pm here and I'm drunk please no bully

If you dont think Vaal Hazak's theme is the single best theme in world then get out of my face.

>>14260567

Man, I went through the whole game without realizing you could do that, thought you had to roll into tackle the whole time.

>>14260601

Don't worry, anon. I switched to using hammer because I thought they made GS useless until I realized you could cancel the charges 30 hours in.

>>14260605

>using R2 to attack

What the fuck do you use for charge attacks then?

>>14260041

Man that "charge" by the monster 4 seconds in looks silly as fuck. The thing basically just teleports into the hunter. It's damn legs barely even move during it.

>>14260616

>Triangle like in any other Monster Hunter that isn't the PS2 ones.

It has been so long since I've played 4u that I forgot that X was the charge and not the R button.

>>14260254

New meta.

You don't sheathe GS anymore with hit and run tactics. You shoulder tackle through attacks (you take some damage), and try to pull off final/true charge, whatever the 3rd style charge was called.

I like this new play style because I have played so much GS that I dropped it out of boredom after 4u

>>14260666

>satan confirmed no reading comprehension

oh shit wait did satan just mega bait me?

>>14260485

XX is better X is about as shit but still better

>>14260284

Tri had less, but there is still not much to defend the small roster. Other than they promised free new monsters, but it seems to take several months between adding new one.

>>14260595

THAT'S the best MHW can do? Sounds like shit.

>>14260666

you'll know when you can pirate it on your toaster Aberto.

>>14260714

They catered to normalfags, and they got the normalfag audience. Face it, Monster Hunter is over. YOU are no longer a Monster Hunter fan, THEY are. Go home, man. Find something else to like. Watch some Anime or read some manga while the Jews still haven't corrupted those too, you only have until 2020.

>>14260714

>The Verge

At least post the real source Anon: https://www.famitsu.com/news/201801/31150829.html

But yeah, looks like our last hope was killed by bored PS4 owners with nothing to do since everything else for the PS4 is already on the Vita anyway. At least we had a pretty good decade of games though.

>>14260726

But anime has become normalfag thing too, and most anime is kind of bland and low effort adaptations.

>>14260673

Can't argue with that. XX didn't fix anything but it's still better than X.

>>14260739

>worlds

>good

>>14260741

Just report and ignore shitposters, don't feed them (You)s

>>14260732

You have no idea how bad things are going to be as the 2020 Tokyo Olympics start to ramp up.

>>14260755

/v/'s mad about it, so take your guess.

>>14260755

No

Its a ok monster hunter clone but its not even dark souls 2 of monster hunter

Any other non-pros wish they'd waited for the PC because of the frame rates?

>>14260755

See >>14259400 and decide for yourself

>>14260755

>>14260757 is right, it seems like half or more of /v/ hates it, but the rest of the world likes the game except for diehard nintendofags. I was worried at first but I played the shit out of it and its easily among my top 3 monhun games due to the gameplay alone.

>>14260763

No because the games gonna be shitty regardless of its frames

Im only playing World because I have to so I can confirm distaste

I dont like complaining about games I've not played

>>14260755

It's okay, I thought I would've liked it more but maybe I'm finally burning out on Monster Hunter.

>>14261023

>Kulu-Ya-Ku

>intelligent

>utilize tools

It's, may Allah forgive me for using this word,

A

FUCKING

ROCK

>>14259400

You can only eat once every 10 minutes at camp. If you cart you can't just instantly grab another meal. You need to wait.

>>14261091

Do you think a GaymesJourno™ would be able to crack nuts by hitting them with a hard object? Nigger would starve on an apple orchard during harvesting season.

Of course he's amazed by this.

>>14261128

>SMT

>some of the weebest of the weebshit

>normie pandering

Shoo shoo, (1) and done.

>>14261148

>Persona

>SMT

Pick one and stick with it, friendo.

>>14261128

This is exactly what it was like.

>>14259796

Judging by the shitty quality, its probably from a hentai anime

Despite all the casualiation and huge list of problems world has I'm enjoying the game a lot more than i thought i would. I'm still in low rank about to hit high rank so i haven't yet experienced everything I but i think if they revert some of the changes to a handful of mechanics and throw in some more monsters in G/expansion it will be a great game as of now it is 7/10, 8/10 if being very generous.

>>14261296

Just wait until you see the new improved deviljho, anon.

>>14261297

In the span of a week it's gone from THE BEST to top 3. In another month it'll be worse than XX where it belongs. Seriously buyers remorse is hilariously strong with world.

>Most casualized game in the series

>Monster AI is horribly bugged

>A majority of monsters can't deal with the massively more mobile PCs

>SUPER MOVES GUYS (but only for ranged weapons) ISN'T THAT AWESOME!

>Music sounds on the whole awful

But it looks pretty, and I guess that's all that really matters

>>14261331

No one was saying it's the best ever. It's not 4u. No game will likely ever be better than 4u. The game hit the perfect equilibrium between fun and challenging, but the only thing on that list that is even remotely true is the music sucks.

You really need to play video games before you whine about them anonymously on the internet.

>>14261339

What game is more casualized in the series than World. The monster AI bugs out and will overwrite all priorities with sleep, even if you're wailing on him. HBG has the "special ammo" which charges up as you deal damage and functions exactly the same as hunter arts.

Really it sounds like you haven't played the game

>world brings back Lavasioth

>not the vastly superior Hypnocatrice or Yama Tsukami

why don't they like fun?

>>14260755

It's an official Monster Hunter clone more than an actual Monster Hunter game.

It's playable but if you really liked the older games for it's less hand-holding elements and restrictions it's terrible.

>>14261128

Yes. This is just like the Personification of the SMT series except this is actually successful thanks to capcom actually advertising the series for once.

>>14261293

Dragon Quest doesn't get as frequent releases as Monster Hunter does anymore.

Dragon Quest is more what Zelda is to the West than Call of Duty

>>14261310

Anjanath? I find him much easier than the pickle.

>>14261297

>all rightful criticisms are wrong becuase muh Nintendo strawman

>World is top 3 tier MonHun

Not at all. It has potential to be top 3 even #1 but what we have so far is probably one of the worst.

>>14261343

It is the most accessible monhun ever but there is a legitimate reason for just about every change

>>14261339

>4u good

are you sure that you're not a nintoddler?

the only decent monhun for the ninty handhelds was 3u even with the shit water combat

i could list the problems with 4u but this is fucking tiresome by now but whatever

for normal play

>mounting lets casuals cheese the game

>portable steam bomb and disposable earplugs

>intrusive "story" cutscenes to pander to lorefags

>casuals can wystone for defense

at higher level play

>weapon balance is so fucked that ig and gs stands at the top clearing shit faster by 1min compared to the tier2 (db hbg cb). tier 3 is 2min(hammer sns) slower than tier2. the rest are trash tier(almost half the weapons) which clears shit 1-2min slower than tier 3.

>skills are too strong and easy to stack with shit like edgemaster and challenger

>attack honing because the weapon upgrade in this game is not fucked enough

>you can use offensive wystones for the apex monsters to kill them even faster and not bounce

>charms weren't removed or reworked for the 4th gen instead they introduced more rng through the relic system

>>14261380

7 million with shit taste

>>14261381

>weapon balance is so fucked

I was going to argue your points but you say 3U is good when slime exists and is beyond broken. Fucking retard.

>say 3U is good

>decent

kek

even then 3u is casualized since they bumped up the defense for the western crowd so 3g is the way to play it.

and slime being broken doesn't change the fact that the weapons back then are still competitive with one another compared to 4u.

p3rd is the de facto game if we're bringing upt the 3rd gen.

>>14261420

Every weapon with slime is competitive. Amazing balance Capcom.

>>14261426

i'll take an attribute being broken over half the weapons being trash.

you're not really disputing any points when all weapons have access to slime so it's fairplay. kelbi bow is cute but nothing more.

>>14261456

>I'll take every non slime weapon being useless over half of them being useless

My point is you're stuck using a slime weapon regardless of weapon type. It's still trash, just in a different way.

>>14261468

I have a ps4 right here. Played all 3 demos. Was disappointed. You're the cuck paying for online.

>>14261488

I got it for 1 month to try the demo. That doesn't stop you from being a cuck to continually pay for it.

>>14261357

No. Not Ajanath. Get your ass to high rank, anon.

>>14261466

yea, and i'm not arguing that 3u was good balancewise just somewhat better than 4u when it came to it.

getting stuck with certain weapons while all the weapontype being competitive is much better than getting stuck with a weapontype since half of it were shit.

besides it's not like you need multiple weapons for each weapon type in 4u too(aside from elemental shit) so it's a moot point.

>>14261515

Just because IG, CB and GS were broken does not mean the others were shit. I had plenty of fast 140 solo clears with hammer, and I used more than 1 hammer. Not just a fucking slime hammer.

>>14261380

>"i-its pander to western"

>"i-its gonna be like DmC"

But those things happened.

>2 MILLIONS SALES IN JAPAN ALONE

That's the opening number for almost every MH game in japan since the series took off, I don't know why that would be surprising especially after how many of them bought that turd MHXX

>>14261528

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Stay salty makoto.

>>14261528

I am more surprised they all went out and bought PS4s.

>>14261536

That's what the limited edition PS4 was for, to get the ones that didn't have a PS4 to buy one.

And this is japan, you had people there that would buy each limited edition Monster Hunter system each time they released on just because.

>>14261543

>Nope, DmC flopped

I referring to the game being redesigned for a wider audience not the sales. MHW has the same core design that all of Capcom's Westernized released had.

>Just proving that MHW doesn't alienate japanese fans

It's more saying Japan doesn't care about the quality they just see the Monster Hunter logo and pay. If they cared about the actual games MHXX wouldn't have sold as much as it did.

>>14261564

>desperately defending MHW using metacritic scores

>when it's worse than skyrim metacritic wise

>>14261525

match up exists, gs still had shit matchups against shit like chameleos so ig was able to take 1st place because it was consistently good at everything.

hammer has good matchups against special lot like the crabs for example so it was able to hang in the tier 3 with sns with their average 140gqs time being slower by 3-4mins compared to ig and gs. after that is a cliff since half the weapon's averages were still slower than hammer and sns by 1-2min.

>>14261562

>MHW has the same core design that all of Capcom's Westernized released had.

Not really, it was made by the same team. DmC and Lost Planet 3 was made by a western dev

>It's more saying Japan doesn't care about the quality they just see the Monster Hunter logo and pay

I could say that for all MH games post FU

>>14261638

>MH has been shit for 8 years

Are you sure you can read nigger?

>>14260755

Seems to me like a lot of the monhun players on here turned out to be tremendous hipsters.

>>14261613

>Not really, it was made by the same team. DmC and Lost Planet 3 was made by a western dev

core design =/= dev team. It follows the same mechanic simplification, player risk reduction and cinematic experience rule set that capcom enforces on their other westernized titles.

>I could say that for all MH games post FU

Post FU? Hell you could say that starting from MH1's psp port where the port had legit flaws but still was successful in japan.

>>14261672

I'm saying they had their minds made up about this game the moment they heard it was going to focus on becoming popular in the west as well.

>>14261719

I was wary too but when I saw it was the same dev, my worries are put to rest. You have to be a westaboo to fully "westernize" your game like Kojima, I just don't see it in MH dev.

>>14261694

>Every monster hunter has had redundant mechanics shaved away every generation.

Older MH games either polished mechanics and gutted shit they were too lazy to fix. Like how you mentioned; they made the combo list which is good legit improvement, then you got shit like when they gutted underwater combat instead of fixing it.

World polishes some mechanics that needed fixing for the better and then completely reworks entire mechanics that have been in the series for years because it would be too hard for the new twitch audience. Like the no loading zone areas is a great improvement, then you get shit like tossing out the already perfect armor skill system for World's baby mode system.

>Are you seriously going to tell me you bitched when they added the combo list?

I bitched when they added Charms and Tri tried to push that fucking awful half assed bowgun system, those were legit terrible mechanics.

Also Hunter Style was the worst thing they ever tried to do in the series.

>>14261725

>Are you saying MH have always been a shit game?

No, MH has good, bad and shit game.

In the new monster hunter, are you able to eat meals with other hunters?

>>14261817

yes

>>14261753

>muh nintendo

>muh salty

too bad that monhun started on the ps2 so i fail to see how your appeal to platform has any merits since people that started monhun on a 3ds should be posting on cuckchan instead of here. not to mention that gen4 was a disaster and 3u was casualized for western braindeads so nintendo monhun didn't appeal to me at all.

that said, i doubt you'd get people debating you on worlds since they already left the threads and said their piece and criticisms about the game, all that's left is you lot that dismiss everything as sour grapes and console wars.

>>14261780

The skill point system in this game lets you make good fashion sets and that alone is worth removing that redundant ass 10 point system that pretty much guaranteed everyone was using Athena's ASS to make the most minmaxed possible clown suit available. Let's stop pretending that system was perfect. It was not. It was unique, but the new system has its merits. The removal of negative skills is bullshit though because a handful of them were really fun to have, like taunt. It's balanced out because the best armor skills require 7 or more points. If you want to max out attack boost for example you have to equip and attack boost armor piece on every single slot. Very few pieces have 2 skill points on them so taking full attack boost is basically 100+ negative skills in just about everything else. You aren't getting any other skills. No ear plugs, not tremor resist. If you do you're getting very little. Not enough to help you. The true tragedy is most of the sets have no set bonus. Set bonuses could have really made the skill system in this game shine. Do you take the whole set, or do you mix it? Less then 20% of the sets have set bonuses. It should be 100% @ 5 pieces with very unique powers that would make them interesting enough to consider over a mixed set.

>>14261801

>>14261850

World is excellent. I hope you have fun with it on PC. :)

>>14261843

Can I be the little girl?

>>14261356

>Lavasioth

They're lazy and just wanted to reuse everything from Jyura. That's why we didn't get the far superior Agnaktor.

>>14261872

I hope so too, despite being negative about it I think I could have fun with it. I'll probably get it once the Ultimate edition releases on PC. It looks fun despite not being what I love about MH (lot less focus on pre-mission preparation and handling the situation with the cards you were dealt/the tools you brought at the start)

Also, honest question: why are Japs such hot fucking garbage at this game? I've soloed the entire story so far and usually only go back and farm monsters by helping people with their assigned quests. Japs are by far the worst possible players. I got into a LR Barroth hunt about seven minutes after it started and on my way to the guy fighting it, he carts for the third time, ending the quest before I even saw the monster. I just tried to fight Nergigante and had just barely cut off the tail and carved it mid fight like a scumbag not 30 seconds before the third cart. And naturally, the automessage was in fucking Japanese.

>>14262023

He's only seven, cut him some slack.

>>14261856

>The skill point system in this game lets you make good fashion sets

That's why the 10 point system was good; You had to choose between looking good or having decent buffs.

You want to look good? Rely on your gameplay skills then/learn the game. Just want to kill things faster? Clownsuit for whats best for you and your weapon.

It was all or nothing, you had to figure out what worked best (before Athena's ASS that is) instead of World's "here's slap whatever to get a bunch of small buffs, no worries".

I'm sure after a few games they'll polish the new system like they did with the original system over the years, but right now it's in the same state as Tri's Bowgun system where they didn't think it through enough and it doesn't have enough material to work with to make it great.

>>14262023

For every god tier MH-pro jap there are 40 salarymen and 80 children stumbling along. It's always been like this since the series took off, you're just finally experiencing it now that capcom finally make the online region free.

>>14261925

There are two areas where world fucks up big time.

>Allowing you to keep questing at camp.

This change is why you can eat and use your item box at camp. The eating at camp doesn't bother me much. But having access to your item box does. This should be disabled entirely in high rank.

>There is absolutely no reason to use the gathering hall.

The social aspect is completely dead in this game. You can accept quests posted by other players from town. You don't need to enter the gathering hall at all. Combined with the questing from camp endlessly and you have a perpetually empty gathering hall. They could fix this by forcing you to only join quests from a board they could put in the gathering hall. 16 player gathering hall should have been amazing. I have never seen a gathering hall with more than 3 people. Even in full lobbies.

>>14262268

Agreed 100% on the item box, that shit broke me completly. I was cautiously optimistic about the game, some changes like being able to change gear upset me or how massive the new tacticool super moves are like the shoulder tackle or the bow's dragonpiercer and the bowguns being able to shoot or reload while on the move. I was willing to give those a pass since I love this series so damn much, but being able to grab infinite items from the box at any time from the camp is the single dumbest shit they've pulled. Imagine going hunting in the woods but you bring an entire fridge full of food and shit nearby instead of preparing yourself properly for the day and hunt. Completely kills any meaning in preparing for the hunt. Yeah you could abandon if you forgot something but there was something satisfying about going in underprepared on accident and still winning.

I still don't know how they fucked up the online system this hard, they merged village and guild so people could do the story/singleplayer with friends but from what I've heard the system is completely fucked because you have to have watched the cutscene to join a quest, leading to people starting a quest, watching the cutscenes in it then abandoning it so they can re-host it and have everyone join. And that's not even touching on what you mentioned about gathering halls.

>>14262345

Well for the assignments you don't need to leave and restart the quest. The quest time only starts after you watch the monster cutscene for those quests only. They should have just kept village singleplayer tbh. It lets people learn about the monster and how to fight it. And then once they kill it they can farm it with their friends. This isn't really that big of a deal though. Once you start high rank you barely get any assignments/urgent so the cutscene shit is almost entirely irrelevant. Low rank is short. High rank has tons of content and is HONESTLY my favorite high rank ever. The entire flow of high rank is like nothing else in the series and is full of neat twists to the gameplay of low rank. There are elder investigations where you need to go on exoiditions and hunt down clues to unlock the elder dragon hunts. What's cool about them is if you're a long time fan seeing these clues gives you an indication of exactly what elder you're tracking if the monster list hasn't been spoiled for you. There are some really good ones and unlocking the quests this way is a lot more interesting than simply getting them. There are people who will play this game to completion and never see Kushala

>>14262345

Remember how mhw is trying to appeal to all sorts of people? I think the itembox was made specfically for the kids, girlgamers, journos, and frenchie shitters who all suck at games in general. Whenever I go into the quest I go in prepared, its do or die and I never even consider using the itembox.

The fact that the gathering hall got bent over sideways and fucked is a massive disappointment, Idk why they made joining MP quests avaliable from the town, it was unnecessary and a dumb decision.

>>14262464

The issue is it makes carting have no real penalty. I understand why you can eat during shit, but it completely removes the risk involved with carting, or having to plan when to use certain items because they're all you have during your hunt.

>>14262464

The item box and cooking at camp are so you can keep questing and not have to return to town. One of the dumbest changes in the series and I hope it never comes back. I can deal with all of the changes and I really like this game but cutting the 16 player gather hall off at the knees when it had so much potential is KILLING ME.

>>14262979

YES!

YES!

YES!

YES!

why not just kill the fish?

>>14262099

>Dozens of threads where the japs kept saying how japanese players were so absolutely better at MonHun than westerners and how them would shit their experience with the new non-region locked server.

>MonHunWorld comes out and everyone sees that japs are complete shit at games.

>B-But you haven't played with the true japanese players yet!

I don't know if you're a jap yourself or just a fucking weeabo, but you disgust me.

I played games on jap servers for years, and jap player are by far the most, absolutely worst players i've ever seen, it's incredible how consistent they are on being dogshit on everything they play.

The only exception is fighting games, and only some fighting games at that.

>>14263057

GL has that heavy slam you can burst fire your whole clip out of, wyvernfire that you can use every 2(?) minutes, and a big ol' stake you can fire if you're playing World.

>>14263057

GL is only good at start and at the end apparently, because of how the shelling damage scales with shelling lvl.

Don't know about sns, but usually you need to match the element if you want to deal decent damage.

There are some new combos for both too.

>>14263089

They nerfed the fuck out of the charged back+O tho.

Now instead of simply allowing you to reposition and deal some good damage it sends you flying and trying to get that mount, I hate it.

>>14260714

1.3 million in 3 days is not much of an accomplishment for a MH game, though. 4 had 1.8 million sales in two days in Japan alone, and X (widely regarded as the worst game in the series) sold 1.5 million in two days in Japan. They provide no hard numbers on digital copies though, only saying "probably", so they're likely just guessing on the numbers.

>>14263129

SnS was too good in Gen and XX so it needed to be nerfed to be even worse than in 4. They couldn't even keep the oils.

>>14263163

I wonder how many monster hunter fans own a ps4 to begin with.

>>14263163

Guess I'll be dual blading instead.

MY WEAPON IS BETTER THAN YOUR WEAPON

>>14263129

That air pop move is a straight up FUCKING buff son. You pop inAMDthe air and press circle and you slam down with your shield. This does insane KO damage. Sword is shield is basically a flying hammer now and it's awesome.

Haven't played it yet but it's really fucking hard to know if all this complaining is legitimate or not because I've seen /v/ complain like this about every single monhun release.

The low amount of different monsters, environmental traps and paid DLC are gay as hell but an average monster hunter game is still better than a lot of shit other companies put out.

>>14263313

>not using superior Swaxe

>>14263318

the dlc is just cosmetics so far, nothing that you need as most are gestures and hairstyles which no one uses and everyone wears their helmets. the low amount of monsters is due to them wanting people to keep playing the game as they will be releasing a handful of monsters in future updates as well as bringing back the inevitable g rank in the future which should be around the time the pc version comes out in order to sell it to the pc market.

>>14263318

The environmental shit isn't nearly as prevalent as it seems. The monsters don't go around tripping themselves up on shit benny hill style. T only environmental trap that is consistently there is the Grimylkynes vine traps. You need to be mounted and they will ensnare the monster in vines. But you need to be in the right area. It's the only example of the environmental traps being absolute shit so far. Grimylkynes should not be in high rank, the item box should not be in high rank. Meals are fine I guess. The box in its own 5 minute pre quest vacuum could be fine. But not in high rank. Fast travel should be completely disabled in high rank.

>>14263318

This game is bang for your buck. Just when you think you've beaten the game it goes nah thats just the warm up motherfuckers.

>>14263375

Able* to

So how does Fat Dire MIralis fight go? I haven't bothered listening to the soundtrack but I hope new guys theme is half as good.

>>14263318

31 monsters is not an insignificant amount of content in a new generation Monster Hunter. Tri had 17. 17 monsters anon. They can't use PS2 graphics in an HD game anymore. The next game will likely reuse monsters and assets from this game, just like the handhelds reused assets from the older games.

I just want to say that I love the weapon upgrade system in this game. Seeing your weapon change over time from something basic into something completely off the wall is neat.

I much prefer this way over the old way. It also keeps low rank hunts relevant.

>>14263375

The leap isn't risky if you git. gud.

>>14263399

Fuck you anon.

I did a rathalos hunt with a THUNDER SnS.

Doing the leap a hundred times didn't shave any fucking time off of the 45 minutes hunt I had.

If this was MH4U it would have lasted only 5 or 10 minutes.

>>14263417

If you spent less time getting hit, you might've shaved off a few minutes.

>>14263318

Its MH in HD with LR replaced with an easy mode, HR replaced with LR, and G-Rank isn't out yet so who knows.

Simply put, you're allowed to be a lot greedier early on with all the handicaps they threw in, but later on one shots abound so the game still forces you to get good or get carted.

>>14263417

Holy shit 45 minutes? I hunted Azure Rath with a raw SnS in 17 and thought I was terrible with it.

Are you sure you're using it right? I only mounted him twice, the rest of my leaps were slams on his head or done when he was flying and I KOed him a dozen times at least.

>>14263249

>(((Aaron Greenbaum)))

Like pottery.

>>14263375

>forces

What, like it's got a gun to your head? I SnS frequently and I don't really spam the jump slash or jump bash. Maybe just stop being a bitch.

>>14263348

>>14263354

>>14263356

>>14263387

>>14263445

Thanks for the replies, honest answers like this from people who are actually playing the game are much better than excerpts from articles and screencapped posts.

I was going to play the PC release one way or another but now I'm glad I know I won't be diving into a world of shit when I do it.

>>14263445

I feel HR is HR. Nergigante is no slouch. Fucker is tough. Bazelgeuse is a real threat, and not wearing the right elemental defenses will get you carted real fast. LR is way too easy I agree. The only monster that managed to triple cart me was Ajanath and that's because I was way too cocky from bullying the demo version. Diablo was pretty difficult too. And no one here should ever have difficulty fighting rathalos. Personally I feel that if someone who has never played Monster Hunter before tried low rank they would get squashed fiercely especially in the later half when you get to rotten vale. Odogaron is no joke. He hits extremely hard and low rank doesn't give you the tools a new player would need to properly deal with him unless you step up and get good at the game. Tempered monsters hit so hard it might as well be F rank. Fucking Pukei Pukei enraged and double slapped my ass on to a cart.

Is there a silly weapon tier list for MonHun? They always give me a giggle. I'm only in the ravine but I've been using the lance the entire time. I feel very safe playing lance, but it can get a bit boring. I try to be a team player poking monsters and giving them a poz load(poison), but it gets a bit tedious.

>>14263531

>silly weapon tier list

All weapon tier lists are silly. Good luck ever finding one that's serious.

>>14263531

Here's mine, adjusted for world

Bro/Top tier:

Funlance

Hammer

Lance

Hunting Horn

Heavy Bowgun

Either you're shit or you're the best in the party tier:

Dual Blades

Greatsword

Board and Sword

Light Bowgun

Weapons I don't like tier:

Bow

Switchaxe

Chargeblade

Kill yourself you fucking weeaboo/baguette tier:

Long Sword

Kinsect Glaive

>>14263562

The event is coming in two parts. There will be a second one with a Ashley burch skin for your armor and a bow. The kitty armor is just part 1. I just want the mega man palico. Where is it? C'mon. Fuck. Please.

>>14263539

Datura Blossom is amazing. It's also my favorite. You need to kill Vaal for juts final form and it's worth it. It looks radical

>>14261339

>No one was saying it's the best ever.

Ah, so you weren't here for the hordes of shitposters saying that it was the best and blew every other title out of the water then.

>>14261370

"Accessible" is just Industryese for "casualized."

>>14261380

>"i-its pander to western"

It literally is, the director said exactly that in the very first interview after the unveiling.

>"i-its gonna sell like shit"

I don't think anyone doubted it would do good worldwide numbers, but I am honestly surprised how well it's doing in Japan.

>"i-its gonna be like DmC"

In sales, no. In terms of how it relates to the rest of it's franchise, yes.

>5 MILLIONS SALES IN 3 DAYS

Shipped, not sold.

>2 MILLIONS SALES IN JAPAN ALONE

This is true though, and quite unfortunate since it likely means Monster Hunter is out and out dead.

>>14261856

>The skill point system in this game lets you make good fashion sets and that alone is worth removing that redundant ass 10 point system

<Caring about fashion this much

Why not just play XX then where you can literally have the appearance of any armor set over any other armor?

>>14261922

>Have you read the thread?

I see tons of eloquent posts explaining their problems with World, and a lot of shitposters desperately pretending it's angry Switchowners or the one legendary Nipanon that are the only people who could possibly have any complaints about the product.

>>14262023

Remember, this is right after launch of the non-G version, you're getting all the braindead casuals at the moment, not the hardcore crowd.

>>14263052

>non-region locked server.

You can lock yourself off by language.

>>14263219

I do, but I also have no intention of ever buying World.

>>14263348

>bringing back the inevitable g rank in the future which should be around the time the pc version comes out in order to sell it to the pc market.

Unlikely on the timing, PC is set for autumn, and the G version will likely take at least a year even if the team spends the whole time working on it, and supposedly the main team is working on the PC port rather than outsourcing it. If G Rank comes out simultaneously with the PC release, it's probably going to be a really small G Rank.

>>14263387

>31 monsters is not an insignificant amount of content in a new generation Monster Hunter.

Yes it is. 4 had 51 monsters, and Generations had 69.

>>14263596

>Garuga gear

>Nerscylla gear

>Tigrex gear

>Brachy gear

>Seregios gear

>ZINOGRE GEAR GOD FUCKING DAMMIT

Way to remind me of almost every good thing missing from this game.

>>14263617

>all the braindead casuals

Too true. Fresh tales from the scrublands: Jimmy the Jap swings his swaxe around during Bazel's bombing runs.

>>14263642

Anon means it's dead to him.

Sometimes change is good.

>>14263642

He means the older style is dead anon.

>>14263642

World didn't bomb in Japan, so Capcom likely will drop Monster Hunter entirely in favor of World.

>Citra will never get better so I can play 4U with a proper controller and resolution

>>14263662

The franchise name is the same, yes, but that's like saying that Persona isn't dead because there's still games with the Persona title in them being made.

>>14263671

Or it's like saying Persona isn't dead because it's true.

>>14263762

But Persona is dead, the only thing they're making now are Persona 3 games, much like how most likely all we'll get going forward are World games.

>>14263770

>Persona's dead, all they're making are Persona games

That's exactly what you sound like.

>>14263776

If you're unfamiliar with video games, I guess it would sound that way, since that's the point of using a recognized property name. Perhaps you'd understand better if I compared it to Fallout vs. Fallout 3? Or Castlevania vs. Symphony of the Night?

>>14263779

As a solo or in a group?

>>14263779

evade+3 lance

>>14263779

Invest in a few gallons of industrial lube, and buy a dragon dildo to train your asshole. With a week or two of practice, you'll be able to take hot monkey dick with minimal pain.

>>14263792

>Fuck off Makoto.

Ah, because I own a PS4, so you can't use the Salty Nintoddler line, got it.

>If you can't deal with people discussing a game you don't like

At what point did I say that?

>Persona 5 is the best game in the series.

Can't say, didn't play it, looked to be more of the same P3 shit that 4 and Sharp FE were. Hopefully you're right, but I have seen nothing to suggest that that's the case.Man, this really is like World.

>>14263828

We can all tell it's you Makoto. Don't gotta hide. We all know how autistic you are about Persona m8.

>>14263903

Can we also have more goldenfish quests without provided baits? Really miss those.

>>14263903

But japanese players are worst monster hunter players below frenchfrog. I wouldn't trust Makoto "fixing" MH

>>14260693

>>14261080

>do khezu in training

>finally beat him on my 5th try

>realize my gear wont be up to snuff so i go hunting for a genprey set

>get the fire wyvern missions

>"oh i have an ice weapon, this should be easy"

>get fucked

>learned how to shield since that charge is fast as shit

meanwhile, getting vita to play with ppsspp, and trying to get on huntser verse is annoying as hell

so t looks like ill be suffering solo till i put in the effort to get this shit off the floor

>>14263956

This is the best post in the thread and that is some good info.

>>14263794

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that the MH games did nothing but increase in quality over time. I don't think that's unreasonable, some not as much as others, some had some hiccups, but the overall trend was up. Each iteration, each generation, added and refined the formula, but in doing so, also moved further and further from the original. By the time you got to 4U, you were almost playing a different game. I'd say 3U was the actual last of the classic MH, since it retained the slow pace of action for both the hunter and the monsters. 4U was when they really began to speed things up, at least for the monsters, not so much the hunters. X and XX were actually a huge deviation, almost hurriedly so, hence why it was so utterly bizarre and unrefined. Still a decent game, very playable, but a bad MH. MHW is the natural evolution of 4U, combined with some of what they learned from X, sort of a 'fail forward' kind of thing.

Now, in your examples, you're comparing games with the same name, but different genres, and I hope you understand what makes those cases different than MH vs MHW. Thankfully, we live in a world where isometric RPGs can coexist with bland first person garbage and arcade platformers can coexist with action platformers with RPG elements. But why would they revert MH back to its old form, which was clunky simply for the sake of being clunky and suffered greatly from hardware limitations? If anything, they're more likely to, if they ever go back, produce a MH5 in the same vein as 4, which still wouldn't be far from World, but it'll still be plenty far from the older games.

>>14263956

You're a good man, anon.

>>14263986

> But why would they revert MH back to its old form, which was clunky simply for the sake of being clunky and suffered greatly from hardware limitations?

Don't you know anon, its the way MH supposed to be played. any form of improvements are casualized shit

>>14263971

>trying to get on huntser verse is annoying as hell

you mean the disagreement part? because setting up the server program is extremely easy.

>download and install program

>while installing the program go to disagreement and agree to the rules and activate your account (if you don't want to see disagreement ever again get the IP now too)

>get certificate on e-mail

>import certificate on program

>change IP and name on ppsspp

>connect and play.

You can do the whole thing in 10 minutes if you stop shitposting and focus on doing it.

>>14263986

> which was clunky simply for the sake of being clunky

What does this mean and why is it a bad thing?

>>14264040

I think he means the old games had a lot of dead times that didn't really need to be there.

It's comfy to forage for berries, don't get me wrong, but I don't see doing it twice as fast as a bad thing either.

The loading screens alone made the game take a whole different pace, too.

>>14264028

Can you invite another hunter to your house and engaging in an erotic roleplaying session?

Just wanted to say I'm salty we never got XX in English proper and that World will have to be my next game.

>>14264102

don't be XX and world compete for the worst game, so you'll get the experience of playing a horrible MH game either way

>>14264104

MHXX may be the worst Monster Hunter game ever made, because MHW doesn't even count as a Monster Hunter game.

>>14264130

Oh and of course the shitter double carted and left.

>>14264130

That's shitty, anon. I will help you if you want. Are you in Eight Fleet?

>>14264147

*Tumblr slanted disagreement

Damn autocorrect.

To not make this post a complete waste, I see the dragon horns have two or more extra songs than mainline. Is there any reason I shouldn't be using those all the time over others?

>>14264147

How do you access that house from the hub. For example. The first house is at the bottom near the commander, the second house is near the canteen where is this one supposed to be? It just kind of exists.

>>14264179

It's from the Gathering Hall.

I don't even blame you for not going there.

>>14264197

The saddest thing about the gathering Hall has to be the fake gong and the eating table dedicated to the old style fun animations.

Why would they tease like that, it's just cruel.

after a few days playing it, the game is worth being called a monster hunter. high rank does provide a challenge, elder dragons are fun, tempered kirin is masochism. armor skills could use negative skills but i noticed if you dont have some sort of protection you risk a lot so in a way it seems negative skills are in but not visible. the game needs a snowy area and it needs more variety in monsters. there is no reason to have thunder protection or ice protection if just one type of monster deals that element. its better to rock fire resistant shit since theres more monsters that deal fire. that shit needs fixing.

>>14264123

Of course it doesn't. Remember, Pokeman Stadium and the Mystery Dungeon games aren't Pokemon games either :^)

>>14264243

>>14264197

They should put a dedicated online quest board in the gathering hall for peoples to take online quests and make the quest board in the hub strictly offline only.

>>14264197

>fanciest house is in the Gathering Hall

I figured it was with the Third Fleet given the aesthetic. That way I could spend all day hunting Giant Nerds and all night with Top Slut.

How do I into lance counter? I always though it was just getting hit, then it auto counters, but it doesn't seem to be the case.

>>14264514

People are already calling potatoface "cute" and have already defended paid dlc.

>>14264170

Gathering hall is dead and it is the one change that pisses me off more than anything. I was looking forward to 16 player gathering halls so FUCKING much. My favorite thing about 3u and 4u was meeting randoms in the gathering hall, putting on rank equivalent gear, akd helping them. This aspect is completely dead because no one has a reason to socialize in the hub anymore.

>>14264278

Yes. They should. This should have been the case. The chances of them fixing it are utterly remote. People will bitch incessantly even though this change is better for the long term health of the game.

>>14264243

There are proper eating tables in the middle for 16 people you will never see this because Capcom ruined the gathering hall.

>>14264537

>Yes. They should. This should have been the case. The chances of them fixing it are utterly remote

I read somewhere aside from monster patch, they're also gonna add gameplay tweak. I don't have high hope for it but if we bitch hard enough I'm sure they'll notice that the gathering hall is fucking empty

>>14264532

she's cute in the way your chubby classmate was cute during freshman year of high school; you just didn't know/see any better.

At least she's not ME:A ugly

>>14261370

>>14261468

>>14261753

>>14263792

>tumblr filename

>shitty space marine .gif

>likes modern persona

>calls anyone who dislikes world "makoto"

>console wars

>unironically uses the term "salty"

>likes world for being "accessible"

Behold, /mhg/, I present to you all: World's target audience!

Why couldn't they just make a normal-ass hack & slash game with monsters? Why are the fighting mechanics so retarded?

Right analog stick for attack moves? Just use fucking buttons. Who was the spastic that had this idea?

>>14260755

>>14261617

This is basically my only major gripe so far. While it is a lot more stream-lined with things like ez-mode crafting, it's really just quality of life shit that I'm more happy than sad about.

>>14262979

>Overlord delayed again

FUCKING DOUBLEFUCK

at least it's a good reason

>>14264922

>Right analog stick for attack moves

What game are you talking about?

>>14265032

>What game are you talking about?

Monster Hunter

>>14265104

I typed Zinogre into startpage please no bully.

Can I make a new profile on 4U without wiping all the guild cards on my main?

>>14265174

You mean completely wiping your save? I don't think so. You'd definitely lose anything you have on the cart.

>>14265182

I mean a new profile in the second save slot

>>14263956

Good man Anon, please post any further discoveries you may make.

>>14263986

>Let's say, for the sake of argument, that the MH games did nothing but increase in quality over time. I don't think that's unreasonable

And there's the very core of it - I do find that an unreasonable assumption to make. While I enjoy the later games and feel they do make some improvements, especially in QoL areas like Item Sets or the like, overall the level of challenge in the series degrades over time. I think that became very clear to the devs when making 4U, hence why in an attempt to bring the difficulty up they came up with Apex.

>4U was when they really began to speed things up, at least for the monsters, not so much the hunters.

I can't really agree with this either. The hunters got much more mobile than they've ever been, while the monsters struggled to keep up, and in the case of Tigrex I swear he got slower if anything.

>MHW is the natural evolution of 4U

In many ways, yes, but it's an evolution of the worst ideas in 4U, like verticality, randomly generated quests, and mounting.

>Now, in your examples, you're comparing games with the same name, but different genres, and I hope you understand what makes those cases different than MH vs MHW.

Absolutely, hence why I lead off with the Persona vs. Persona 3 comparison, and pulled out Fallout and Castlevania as examples that might be more familiar to other people.

>But why would they revert MH back to its old form

If they see a demand for it, I'm sure they would. Unfortunately, that means the fans need to be louder and more profitable than the normalfags.

>which was clunky simply for the sake of being clunky

No it wasn't

>and suffered greatly from hardware limitations?

Like?

>>14264269

The Mystery Dungeon games are more like Pokemon-themed Mystery Dungeon games than Mystery Dungeon-themed Pokemon games, so yeah, they're an entirely different genre.

>>14264630

Welcome to the last 7 or 8 months.

>>14265050

>Handler is cute when she isn't making a stupid expression

So, never?

>>14265174

The guild cards you've already registered should stay just fine.

>>14265210

>Like?

lack of second analog stick, shitty framerate, shit resolution, limited data storage, low poly texture,

>>14265210

>In many ways, yes, but it's an evolution of the worst ideas in 4U, like verticality, randomly generated quests, and mounting.

random mounting? why do you insist talking out of your ass?

>>14265255

I think he means investigations.

>>14265282

But investigation are actually beneficial to the players, its not even a debate

>>14264412

>took all the jokes out

>feel like it was written by a autist

>don't actually say anything about the quirks of the players

>is not even consistent, sometimes written in 1st person and sometimes in 3rd person

That's complete shit anon, it feels like it was written by a fucking autist jap that doesn't understand humor, apply yourself next time.

>>14265210

>The addition of verticality was a bad idea.

Fuck you, verticality is a welcome change. In previous gens the flatness of everything made it so the only difference between hunting grounds and the zones within them was how annoying that particular boss fight arena was to operate in. Verticality added more depth to the strategy and positioning element of the gameplay. Whereas before the only thing to worry about with positioning is staying out of a corner so you don't get fucked by the camera and stunlocked.

>>14265309

They're just normal quests that grant extra rewards and you can only get them by playing the game. Anyone arguing against them is a fag who just doesn't like change.

>>14265325

>it feels like it was written by a fucking autist jap that doesn't understand humor

Makoto?

>>14265352

there is more than one jap in these threads anon, Makoto has a very distinctive way of writting and discussing that is easy to spot, the others are just as autistic as everyone else.

>>14259384

Which should I start with? I have a newly-jailbroken PSP that I picked up for a song and a SDHC adapter coming in the mail.

>>14264030

Well I spent the last few hours trying to get it to work

I dont know how other people got it, because nothings working for me.

>>14265465

I started with FU,

>>14265465

Try portable third, it's short and sweet.

If you like it, go for FU.

PS: Short and sweet means 80 hours long in MH

>>14265494

what is the problem anon? i can't help you if you're this vague.

You still doing it?

>>14265626

Im about to post it now.

Session ID is 3eRfQYJzBJKd

Hurry.

Would anyone be interested in starting a petition to unfuck the gathering hall at the very least?

>>14265645

>Also, /tg/ touched upon the subject briefly, what's the backstory? Is it post-apocalypse, or post-post apocalypse, or is the Saphire Star really Earth and this all takes place on Mars?

>Peace Walker, and by extension Metal Gear, Policenauts, and Snatcher, are they the canon start?

It takes place in an alternate universe. In ancient times (exact timescale is unknown, I'm guessing a few thousand years prior) there was a huge war, the Humans and Wyverians together against the dragons. Both sides were almost entirely wiped out, the vast majority of technological development was lost, then humanity and wyverians slowly rebuilt to where they are now. Most of the more advanced weapons and technology (eg dragonators, gunlances) are cheap knockoffs of the ancient technology. Either during the war, or sometime afterwards, a Fatalis caused a great cataclysm (something about splitting a continent in two) which is probably part of why its existence is a closely guarded secret by the guild. They're open about most elder dragons existing; they pretend Fatalis doesn't actually exist, and is just a fairytale, or a made up creature for children's storybooks. Many of the areas are the ruins of the ancient civilization, such as the Ruined Ridge, the various "Tower" maps, and the ruins Ceadeus is fought in. Almost everything beyond that is just fan theories and conjecture, though; there's a lot of autism around the series lore, mostly derived from ancient concept art books from back when the devs still had concepts of complex magic systems and even undead monsters, before settling on a much lower fantasy setting. You're an EDW, I'm an EDW, your cat's an EDW, Atoruraruka's an EDW, Gogmazios is an EDW, and His Immenseness is an EDW. There, I just saved you from reading through 90% of MH lore theories.

>>14265443

>All factual

Are you sure? It sounded a lot like the ramblings of someone who only knows about MH through pure hearsay and no hands on experience whatsoever.

>>14265255

Investigations.

>>14265256

>lack of second analog stick

The first 3DS Monster Hunter game came with the second stick peripheral, and later models of the 3DS had the second stick built in. It was admittedly stupid to not have it in the first place, but it didn't hold MonHun back all that much.

>shitty framerate

MonHun has never had bad frame rates though with the possible exception of Gen/XX due to the stupid Hunting Arts.

>shit resolution

The resolution never got in the way of seeing what you were doing or what needed to be seen though. That's a window dressing point at best.

>limited data storage

As in the number of save files? From what I hear World is still at 3 save files, and considering CFW'd 3DSes can easily save multiple save files with a save manager I highly doubt hardware has anything to do with it.

>low poly texture

How is that a problem? Again, just sounds like window dressing.

>>14265309

Not what I said, I said in 4U it was a really shitty system, which I don't think anyone disagrees with.

>>14265343

>Verticality added more depth to the strategy and positioning element of the gameplay.

It added things the monsters weren't equipped to deal with and more options for the players to exploit against them.

>>14265465

Freedom Unite for content and the best representation of "classic" Monster Hunter, Portable 3rd for best village and some other small refinements.

>>14265852

It's about the shitters and randumbs who don't know jack fucking shit about how to play. Are you seriously trying to tell me you've never, in all the time you've played MH, run into some retard who tried playing combo GS? Or who uses raw DBs and doesn't bring dash juice? Or never seen a GL user who does nothing of use and trips everyone with his shots? Have you never heard of 3rd gen's broken autoguard GL, or gen/XX's absurdly overpowered Striker Lance? Are you seriously saying you've never even seen a fucking burstspam CB? If you're trying to claim that shit doesn't happen, then I seriously doubt you've ever played online.

>>14266002

>Nigger you mean SMT is dead, not Persona, Persona is very well alive and kicking, SMT on the other hand has been taking a backseat because of how Persona, a spin off series of SMT, was so successful it has affected other SMT titles like SMT4:A.

>Persona 1 and 2 are still arguably SMT games, 2 being the less of it but it was still a fantastic game. I can see your point but you're better off comparing it to the rest of the SMT series.

Persona 1 I would actually say is less similar to mainline MegaTen simply because of the positioning system with the grid and attack ranges, which Persona 2 sadly dropped. Either way, I would still say Persona is very definitely dead, since all we're getting now is dating sims with the Persona moniker slapped on top.

>DOS introduced a ton of stuff and FU rejected all of it and became the standard of the series.

Most of what I saw that Dos had that FU dropped was the seasonal system or things dependent on it, which while cool on paper, essentially just meant "you can't hunt this monster or gather this item now, go do some other things to kill time."

>>14265567

The way you write raises so many red flags, it's almost like you're one of those feminist girls with problem glasses that need to raise their tone on certain words because she thinks everyone around would never understand her otherwise.

The double lines between paragraphs doesn't help one bit either.

At the start i thought you were trying to send a secret message to someone, but the words doesn't make any sense together, so you're probably just a emasculated fag.

>>14265645

Ancient civ that is highly advanced start hunting dragons and wyverns for sport, elder dragons kick their shit in, remnants of humans and wyverians (and possibly lynians) band together to survive the onslaught, wyverians keep some blueprints and techniques from old civ that let them create the more advanced weapons (gunlance, both axes and bowguns), they create the hunters guild to carve a place for their little band in a world now filled with giant monsters, hundred years pass and the hunters guild helped the coalition create various footholds around the world, now it exists to be sure that shit between dragons and the coalition doesn't get worse and send them back to stone age again.

The games history are always "newbie hunter arrives in town, learn the ropes, and end up killing some force of nature people didn't even knew it existed or thought it was a god that was about to explode said town", world is the first one that actually seems to care about lore and all that shit.

Not even high rank is saving this mess of a game

Everything is so fucking slow, monsters are slow, cut scenes are slow and mandatory, upgrading weapons is slow, fucking load times are slow. The town is too big and a instead of having a whole 4 maps they shoulda just fucking downsized them so there were more

Fuck all these awful hallways and huge ledges to climb

>>14266308

>monsters are slow

How so? They don't really feel slower than any of the previous games.

>>14266308

I'd rather one lengthy load than multiple minor ones, rather a map with cliffs to climb and caves to delve and canopies to explore than a two dimensional maze, rather occasionally get lost after getting wolloped off a ledge than always know exactly where I am.

Then again, bet it's weird to enjoy the ascent to Legiana's roost. Perhaps the game was built with a slightly different audience in mind.

>>14267015

> Perhaps the game was built with a slightly different audience in mind.

GEE YA THINK?

>>14266002

>SMT on the other hand has been taking a backseat because of how Persona, a spin off series of SMT, was so successful it has affected other SMT titles like SMT4:A.

Maybe if Atlus start making good games like Nocturne, it wouldn't be as dead as it is. or release it on console instead of handheld

>>14265863

>Not what I said, I said in 4U it was a really shitty system, which I don't think anyone disagrees with.

Bitch, you said "yes, but it's an evolution of the worst ideas in 4U, like verticality, randomly generated quests, and mounting." You are literally bitching about investigation which are very useful to the hunters. This is why you need stop spouting shit you don't know and spread lies. And verticality makes the map more realistic rather than flat plane, and it doesn't give you any more advantages since you can be trapped and cornered very easily compared to a flat plane where you can all the space you need to dodge and run.

>>14266308

>monsters are slow

How??

If anything, a lot of them are faster.

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>>14265262

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>>14267900

Nigger come and give me an invite to the group

I'm garuda

What's better to put in the giving tree, mandragora and devil's blight, or something that produces lots and fast?

>>14268312

>>14268256

new thread

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>>14267015

>Perhaps the game was built with a slightly different audience in mind.

They outright said in the very first interview after World's reveal that World was built specifically with people who hated Monster Hunter in mind.

>>14267250

>Bitch, you said "yes, but it's an evolution of the worst ideas in 4U, like verticality, randomly generated quests, and mounting." You are literally bitching about investigation which are very useful to the hunters. This is why you need stop spouting shit you don't know and spread lies.

But none of that is a lie. Those were the worst ideas in 4U, along with the story focus, which ALSO got an evolution in World.

>And verticality makes the map more realistic rather than flat plane

Why the fuck would I care about realism? I want to play a video game, not marvel at "oh man this could totally happen in real life."

>and it doesn't give you any more advantages since you can be trapped and cornered very easily compared to a flat plane where you can all the space you need to dodge and run.

Except where it lets you easily escape by just jumping down.