/v/ - Video Games

Consoles. Console genders do not die.

>>14195244

>Console genders

What gender is my Sega Genesis?

>>14195238

>colorful cast of characters

>flashy animations

>only need console and game

>only needs two players

>immediately easy to understand (hit the other guy until he stops moving)

>appeals to primal desire for hand to hand combat

>consoles are more accessible

>>14195250

Sega Genderless

Because its a short, purely competitive 1v1 genre

>Going strong

There's not much games outside established franchises

Fightans are still a niche market compared to absolute horseshit. You'd know that if you took your head out of your ass once in a while. Also smash isn't a fighter, it's a party game that tries to pass itself off as a fighter.

>>14195386

Even if it's niche it's still getting decently sized games made for it. Can't say the same for RTS or Arena

>going strong

Didn't know not even breaking a million dollaroos is called that.

You'd have a point if shit like dota2 aren't bringing over 24 million every year and rising from prizepool alone.

Fgc at the moment is just gooks and niggers playing for a paltry sum.

>>14195423

-Halo Wars 2

-Total War 2

-Steel Division

All of these were released last year

Plenty more to come

Not classic RTS games but still Real Time Strategy

>>14195534

>Play a real videogame

Congrats on dumbest post I read this week

>>14195263

>only need console and game

and money for the other half of the roster, don't forget that.

>RTS

>devolved to or arguably succeeded by games like DOTA and League of Legends

>Arena FPS

>modern FPS games are one of the following: slower, has aim assists, adjusted for controllers

>lootboxes, deceptive matchmaking, microtransactions

>arguably succeeded by modern fps since many modern games use engines based on Quake and slightly retain bunny hopping

>Fighting games

>remained fighting games

Because what killed Arena FPS's was a specific game: CoD4. There was no one fighting game that used a different style that got mega popular that all the fighting game devs could emulate.

Smash would be the closest thing to that, but Smash's general popularity has nothing to do with how it deviates from the core competitive fighting game formula; it rides on being a nintendo crossover series. You could argue that MOBA's have killed the RTS in a similar vein that CoD4 and other "loadout" shooters have killed arena FPS"s, but RTS's were already sort of dead befoore that.

>>14195244

>>14196295

Arena FPS's existed and thrived on console, though: Halo was the very definition of a console shooter for a long time and it's an arena shooter. It had to make concessions, such as slower movement, but that doesn't make it not an arena shooter when it still has even starts, weapons and powerups on maps, maps focused as much on platforming as normal lateral movement, etc.

>>14197863

Don't bother. These underage probably think Overwatch is an Arena shooter. Blizzard is calling it one.

>>14198043

We've already had this discussion about Smash Bros. That game is a party game, as Sakurai considers it one. Overwatch is, therefore, an arena shooter.

When the creator of a property gives something a genre, it becomes fact. This is not a topic for debate. It's their game, they can do whatever they damn well please with it and call it whatever they want.

>>14198072

I can't tell if you are baiting or not. If Notch called Minecraft a fighting game would we all have to accept that? If he called it an Arena shooter would we all have to accept that? Genres have definitions anon.

>Fighting games never got drowned by a more casual subset of the genre, there weren't as many smash clones as there were cover shooters or MOBAs during 2007.

>Oldschool FPS community got split into a hundred games while the FGC often only plays popular, recent fighting games

>The only people who play RTS nowadays are autists who have been playing those games since their 90's childhood, casuals on RTS are very scarce

>>14195504

Considering only 25% of prize contributions go into the pool, it's fair to say valve is getting over 70 million shekels every year from dota2 TI, minus hosting costs.

RTS still lives, it's just not observable aside from MOBA faggots.

Niggers love them.

The only fighting games that are going strong are SFV and whatever is the current NRS game at the moment and those still do worse than actual popular genres

>>14201917

Arent both MK9 and MKX still going strong?

It's because fighting games are a natural fit for competitive play. The audience appreciates iteration while still keeping classics alive and the audience is large enough (unlike arena shooters) to support them all. The community is active and has developers that engage with that community often and there's new competition from the developers all the time, each offering a unique experience.

arena shooters died for an obvious reason, RTS is kinda weird but it was never that big in a competitive sense outside of korea, and it seems like dota clones are easier to push in that sense.

>>14202066

>twitch bot viewers

don't count

>>14202066

>twitch viewers

>not being faked

shouldn't you be giving valve more money to artificially promote bad games like csgo and dota 2

Fighting games are fun to watch for anybody. RTSes and arena shooters don't have this to the same extent.

>>14195238

Because arena shooters are replaced by other FPS just fine (spergs gonna sperg about muh skill), RTS are inherently flawed design.

>>14205060

its 8chan, everyone here is fucking delusional.

>>14205693

He's not implying anything, he's outright fucking telling you.

>>14201917

>SFV

What world are you on

Whats the lure of fighting games? I always get bored like 5 minutes in and cant be asked to learn them combos. Will it actually become fun once I get good?

Because fighting gamesare actually good

>>14206745

>Will it actually become fun once I get good?

Only if you have real interest in the game's concept

>>14206745

You learn simple combos from just fighting others and you can learn many combos just by spending 15 minutes learning them. But fighting games aren't just about combos. Everything leading up to that is much bigger than the combo its self. Just play with some friends instead of with randoms online and ai. You'll have way more fun and if you're interested in actually learning the game then you can start fighting others and learn how to properly play. Also the way pros play isn't how the average player plays. People always think they're up against players who are pros who have been playing fighters for decades but I had a friend who got on my level in 2 weeks despite me playing fighters for ages. Difference here is that he had someone to learn from and many resources while I didn't for years.

>>14195238

Fighting game is niche but committed!

>>14195238

tons of gooks have moved on from starcraft, they now mostly play mobas and overwach

>>14195238

Competitive as a concept in general is dead because casuals got on it and if the game is actually skill based it dies.

The whole idea of calling it "competitive" is a casual invention.

>>14206745

>cant be asked to learn them combos

Ditch those faggy dial-up muscle memory autism and learn a real man's game

Neutral game, knowing what your opponent can do and how to behave in a match are much more important than to learn combos. Knowledge is useless if you don't know how to apply them. But there are non-combo heavy games like KOF'98, Samurai Shodown and somewhat Virtua Fighter

>>14198112

>while the FGC often only plays popular, recent fighting games

This only applies to Capcom, NRS and animeFGC who plays the most recent game of said company/community. KOF fans are plit between '98, 2002 and now XIV with XIII players trying to build their community. SFIII 3rdStrike players are an anomaly inside Capcom fanbase since they only play that game and didn't "moved on" after 10 years since the release of SFIV and now SFV. Even inside the anime fanbase you have guys who didn't moved on to the newer GuiltyGear Xrd series and you have very niche stuff like Arcana Heart and UNiEL players along with Melty. But let's see how many casuals will complain about DBFZ this weekend once it releases.

tl;dr there are many niche games who survives 20+ years after their release because they have dedicated communities using forums, IMs, facebook and now disagreement to keep it alive.

>>14197833

>There was no one fighting game that used a different style that got mega popular that all the fighting game devs could emulate.

>Smash

Yeah no. Smash community don't blend with regular fighting game fans. They only play smash and its clones and even in tournaments, the audience simply leaves when Smash is over and the regular fighting game fans usually leaves during Smash to do other stuff. It's still only at EVO because Mr.Wizard wants everybody's money because other events like Dreamhack can gather just as much if not more people and money from Nintendo fans.

If you want, should look back to when Virtua Fighter was released at arcades and many clones appeared like Tekken and DOA and even big IPs tried to emulate like Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat but in their own way at that time. Hell, the whole genre deviates from Street Fighter II with other games copying but adding new stuff Samurai Shodown did Supers, Darkstalkers did EX moves, Mortal Kombat with its finishers and so on.