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If I remember correctly the best chess engine you can easily torrent for free is Houdini. However, it's the best to try and find an engine which corresponds to your ELO and unless I'm speaking to literal chess god here Houdini will be too much for you to handle. There are a lot of free chess engines you can download which have a low ELO score so they're good for beginners, you can also get free engines for higher levels of competence too, only the engines which are top tier have a price tag attached to them usually. Another thing you will need to get is a GUI so you can even run the engines. I use Arena and it's good enough, works on Linux too.

Chess is one of my favourite pastimes anon.

lichess.org is really good.

Also, if you want to get better just go to chess.com. They have a lot of learning, tips, opening books, chess puzzles, et cetera.

I also enjoy this chess youtube channel daily https://www.youtube.com/user/AGADMATOR

The guy analyzes interesting games from all eras.

>>14187928

Stockfish defeated Houdini and is the best engine with a higher ELO, plus it is free and open source, and its ran on many website since there is a Javascript version. It also has a difficulty setting.

I love chess, but I'm awful at is. Mostly because I can't memorize for shit (so studying openings is useless), and I'm not good at visualization of the board and "playing" alternative lines in my mind 10 moves ahead like any average chess player can do.

>>14187940

I had no idea about that, I don't really pay attention to chess engines and things like that, thanks for the updated info.

>>14187956

While you have to be a born chessplayer for very high level play, I think that anyone can be taught to play at an average level provided they train and practice enough, a lot of the things like being able to think multiple turns ahead come with experience. Even grandmasters aren't perfect and you can fool them with balls-to-the-wall insane plays which work that one time because you threw them off guard. People who play chess for a long in a small country like mine all know each other and nobody can stop giving one of our grandmasters shit because a 12 year old kid made him force a draw in a game of speedchess because the kid's grandfather taught him some really unorthodox line of play which catches a lot of people off guard, but he wasn't close in winning any other game because thats all he knew how to do.

love to play chess, even though im not so good at it. problem is i have no one to play it with. chess.com is pure shit, lichess might be good, idk. chesscademy was ok, i would kill for a chess study/play group

I play bughouse or fischer-random variants. Using xboard. Usually over a MUD.

Chess 2

>>14187932

>lichess

>easy

>open source

Thanks anon, this looks really good.

Anyone wanna play? my elo is -100

>>14187987

I suggest you try finding a local chess association/federation/whatever or look at places like schools or universities to see whether they have some sort of chess community. It's the best way to find live chess players to play with and to learn how to play.

>>14188009

in last town i lived i did and it was pretty good

but i moved back at home, and nothing is happening nowhere near me

I learned how to play Go a while back, are there any neat engines for Go like chess has? I've only ever used OGS.

Queen nerf when?

>>14188096

Only to the white Queen, since the black Queen needs to be a strong, powerful piece, you Drumpftard alt-right racist misoginistic shitlord.

What preferably free as in freedom program would I use to learn mahjong?

I like Flash Chess 3

You can play on 3 lvls of difficulty

http://www.cda.pl/gry-online/21375a0/Gra-w-szachy-z-komputerem

Move thyself towards me, male member of my family with whom I share both parents

https://lichess.org/VHWK0Zc5

>>14188699

Half of that because I wanted to read Akagi and other similar works but my family actually plays mahjong.

>>14188695

g-guys please

>>14188702

>my family actually plays mahjong

That's really cool.

>>14188731

Not me anon, I suck at chess.

get rekt scrub

>>14188756

The guy in my match just moved his pawn then surrendered, still a win tbh.

chess sucks.

the protagonist is a weak pussy who depends on others instead of doing things himself, and would you look at that, his girlfriend is a fucking do-it-all mary sue, you go girl, GRRRRRL POWER, WE WOMYXZN CAN WIN AT WAR TOO YOU SILLY BOYS, god fuck women.

Half of your units are garbage, it feels like each unit is always in the wrong spot for their predetermined job EVERY TIME, and look at that shitty generic plot taken straight out of deviantart fanfiction, the main villain is just your dark side and they use all your same powers abilities and units.

overall i rate chess 3/10 its a piece of shit

Finally, a worthy challenger appears!

>>14188826

What the fuck are you doing white, develope your pieces. You haven't moved anything on the right half.

Looks like this round goes to the KANGZ, DAS RITE!

The key to getting good at chess is playing a lot and playing people better than you over and over again (though be sure to learn from it and imitate). I really like Shogi, it's got a lot of really cool rules that push it above chess, but it's hard to get in to when there is absolutely no one to play with around. And fuck playing with randos online, you people are savages and you know it. Hell, I know it because I'm one of you.

>>14188845

When a pawn gets to the other side, he can transition into a Queen, the superior gender.

>>14188899

>The key to getting good at chess is playing a lot and playing people better than you over and over again (though be sure to learn from it and imitate)

Yes and no. You want to be playing people better than you, but you also need some of those people who are better than you to be able to point out your mistakes, which you may often miss if you haven't played chess for a long time.

bump for low skill chess players so we can learn without being bullied

>>14189180

play me anon

https://lichess.org/bL3uc119

Another.

https://lichess.org/gQzNWzsS

>>14187517

chess has been played out and all possible permutations have already been done

at this point it's all about memorizing sequences of moves rather than strategizing

>>14189801

There are over 9 million possible positions after just three moves each, 288 billion one move each later. Good luck anon, become the next grandmaster while you're at it.

>>14189841

the majority of the first 6 moves of any chess game is usually rote memorized by most players

>>14189937

I'll play go with you anon, what do you play on? I don't know much about Go clients.

>>14190141

>literally infant level at Go

So am I

>>14188066

I play Go on and off as well and when I first got into it ages ago, OGS was the only real lifeblood-filled site around that had a dedicated community and solid UI, as well as free scheduled tutoring hours by high-ranking players of the site.

>>14190157

>>14190141

To be fair, Go is very simple conceptually and horrendously, mind-blowingly complex in execution. The skill gap between the worst Go player and the best is most likely one of the most gargantuan gulfs of skill in anything that actually requires skill. That sounds like exaggeration but it isn't, it's like comparing a grain of sand to the universe. No matter how shit you think you are at the game, there are thousands far worse than you. To latch onto some stereotypes, if you're here as anon on this site chances are high you have the intelligence to learn a number of useful tricks really quickly and increase your ability at the game in rapidly in a small window of time.

>>14190141

https://online-go.com/player/501933/

This is me, make an account and send me a friend request

>>14190199

>OGS was the only real lifeblood-filled site

I've heard that GoPanda is popular, but I mostly play IRL at this point. It's been a while since I've even used OGS. GoPanda's not in a browser though.

Literally "chess.com"

The best way to play chess is to get a friend who is approximately your skill level and start a rivalry. Yeah you learn by losing to better players, but losing is not fun. But losing becomes OK if you are getting stronger and ensure your rival cannot beat you.

I did this for a few years with a bro from college. 10/10, the best way to play chess. We used the chess.com app, worked fine for me but I never paid for any of it.

>>14188861

someone on youtube already made this joke.

>>14190376

I don't know how.

>>14190376

>playing chink games

>>14190391

I'm fine with teaching. >>14190209 if you wanna learn

>>14190401

But it's fun!

Practise

chessgames.com/puzzle.html

>>14187517

so does getting good at chess have any transfer to other things or does it just make you good at chess?

>>14190780

It teaches you how to memorize a line deeper and wider than some other autist.

>keep getting rekt by the easy AI

I'm hilariously bad at chess so please be gentle

https://lichess.org/JipnBv91

Latest Fritz should be enough for a noob, OP.

>>14187517

Yes, both lichess.org and chess.com are decent, free options.

stockfish is probably the best chest engine, I think alpha zero might be better soon though?

Lichess is the best chess site i think

>>14194509

Until AlphaZero plays a Stockfish setup designed by the Stockfish team it stays hard to say despite the frankly amazing games that have been released from the Google tests. Both players are so high level it is hard to analyze what Stockfish's better options would have been and if it would have seen through AlphaZero's ploys had it also ran on a supercomputer.

AlphaZero is as brutal as Stockfish is but in a more human-like way, thinking in patterns rather than hard results and equations.

Even if this ever happens, I doubt it will have more impact on the world of chess than Stockfish has had. Stockfish is opensource and has been fully embraced by the chess community all over the world to learn with, play against, analyze games and moves with etc.

It will probably have more impact on the world in general though.

If anyone feels like playing a couple rounds, I'm still warm from winning against my sister: https://lichess.org/f7hYRqp3

>>14194835

Yeah, I've gone through several of the games, and there's a lots of brilliancy there. I've noticed that since watching what Alpha Zero could do, I'm a lot less interested in watching games between human grandmasters, and I used to watch plenty of games between the top humans. I don't have the same admiration anymore for the highlights of Carlsen's career. It's just not the same anymore. It's too apparent how inferior we all are.

This link is deprecated >>14194835

Use https://lichess.org/Yow625zt

>>14194877

I've actually come to appreciate the old masters more because of it, before the computer-led meta.

I'd like someone to play with but everyone i've met plays like a GM and i'm a total scrub.

Where do you find other noobs to play against?

>>14187517

Humble reminder that >>>/chess/ exists.

This is crazy

>>14199207

I'm guessing the basic idea was to trade queens (Qe4, dxe4, Rxd7) but either way it is a complete blunder. The best play would probably be Qf7+ with Kd8 being the only option after which follows Nxg5 with tempo on e6, which would come with mate unless Kc8.

>>14196526

Thank you.

>>14199528

>Kd8 being the only option

what's to stop the knight on e5 from simply taking the queen there

>>14199585

You are completely right anon, in my mind the knight was still on c3.

In that case I don't see a reason for white to continue playing.

>>14199207

If the d5 pawn takes the queen d1 rook takes the black queen. White loses a rook and a queen but at least the black queen is out of the play. White is severely fucked anyway

>>14187956

>average chess player definitely can't see 10 moves ahead, even grandmasters don't really do it unless it's forced, check some gm streams on twitch like gignergm, he is often playing longer time controls while explaining the way he thinks

>>14201535

Who are you quoting?

Anyway, they often talk more in terms of pattern and structure which allows them to think much deeper ahead. They know what way the wind is blowing when they do a certain move and often just thinking 3-5 turns ahead is enough to make a decision. When GM's play each other it's a different type of game. Both would have been prepared against the other player and they both try and keep each other to their scripts so to say until they are on their own. There is also the fact that a lot of positions have already been played and you are expected to know the benefits of each variation or preemptively counter a certain position.

>>14187517

Phantasy star portable 1. Basicly an endless dungeon with like 10 different enemies in total. Run from room to room, kill dudes, get items and red key, open lock rinse and repeat. You have different classes, some wiggle room for a personal build and up to 3 ai comrades you can take with you if you wish. Its more akin to diablo but still kinda works and has a good combat system. You can emulate psp with ppsspp which runs on nearly everything or just buy a used psp for like 20 bucks and use it as an emulation machine.

>>14201909

no one, i accidentally left a chevron when i was repasting what i typed but it wouldn't let me post

anyway, my point is, it's a misconception people who don't play chess often think that you have to have this superhuman ability to see 5-20 moves ahead when this is just not the way humans play

>>14201942

You're right, only computers think like this (brute forcing every move and evaluating outcomes up to x amount of turns ahead).

i lik chess

>>14202017

i thought this is some actual problem but it's just a nonsensical move in a lost position

>>14202017

>Are you in the wrong thread?

oh wow, yes, yes i am

>>14202043

That sounds like a real comfy time. You should pick it up again anon.

My dad has always played chess and taught it to me and my sister (who plays competitively now). When we had an argument as kids, our dad would encourage us to play chess to resolve the matter.

8CH CHESSMANIA WHEN??

Stratego is really fun, because it actually implants fog of war.

bumb

>>14187517

hi there Todd, you dork

https://online-go.com/

I've been playing for a while now, I hope to hit Dan this year.

>>14203522

knight to d7

>>14203621

Illegal move

>>14203623

Is this a puzzle or a regular game?

>>14197346

The alphago documentary was recently put on youtube/netflix

>>14203591

teach me senpai I wanna git gud too

>>14203629

It's from a real game in 1927 i think

>>14203623

How is it illegal?

>>14203522

>>14203621

I not Kd7, It'd follow with

Qb8+, Kb8

Rd8 Checkmate

>>14203697

Assuming you know the rules of the game, maybe start at these places.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfiwO2Cq4Qk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-td9ah-cM2k&index=51&list=PLA1F22C258E9FF4BB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJEioB9QhaI

Nick Sibicky's lectures really helped me when I started out. He likes to teach noobs using heuristics rather than memorization.

Also here. Life and death problems are a good way to git gud. However, f you're an absolute beginner, maybe focus on good shape first.

https://online-go.com/puzzles

This is a pretty good book.

http://ostencible.free.fr/Go%20Books%20English/%20Takeo%20Kajiwara%20-%20The%20Direction%20of%20Play.pdf

The first three chapters are fantastic. Even if the only thing you pick up is why you might play on a certain place on the board.

>>14203818

>killing the king

They're keeping him alive so they can capture him you retard.

>>14203522

it's lost either way

Nxd7, Qb8+ Nxb8, Rd8#

after Qxd7 you trade in any way and win due to extra pawns and black's inactive pieces, maybe there is faster mate but who cares

>>14206112

My point still stands.

>>14207083

It doesn't though. What made you think you needed a referee? It ain't fucking Kriegspiel chess.

I've been on ogs for about 4 years actually, so a random detective username will add you, im always looking for people who know whats up to throw some stones with

>>14190209

>>14207099

The part in the rules where it tells you that you need a third person to be a ref is what made me think that. What, have you just been showing what your pieces were every time you attacked and defended?

>>14207125

Iirc, every time a piece fought, you had to reveal it, at least in traditional stratego rules. That was the point of Scouts, using their high speed but shit power to reveal enemy pieces or cap the flag from afar.

>>14188826

Couldn't white have just taken black's queen with his own on the turn he resigned on?

>>14202637

He's also annoying as worms. His videos are unbearable.

>>14207432

queen is pinned

Bump.

chess is like modern rts

its so autistically minmaxed that to be even slightly competitive in it even just enough to enjoy playing you need to study openings and orders for weeks

i consider neither games, tbh. theyre more competitions, but even then player skill is based more on level of dedication to studying the material than it is about individual competence

>>14208310

but thats where youre wrong mongloid. a game is a fun competition, whereas competitions arent fun

also chess is objectively not fun so nobody who isnt retarded considers it a game

>>14208343

hahahah wew

show me the definition of the word 'competition' that says that they can't be fun. protip: you can't, because it doesn't exist.

furthermore, a game doesn't have to be fun to still be a game, because the definition of the word 'game' doesn't rely on fun to fulfill the criteria of being a game. there are plenty of games that are not fun at all, for example monopoly, and getting sloppy seconds from your syphilitic niggerloving mother.

>>14208351

not what i said mongloid. both games and competitions are competitions but game refers only to fun competitions. chess is not a game. starcraft is not a game unless you are autistic which likely you are fam

also ur mom loves niggers more than my mom so ha

>>14208360

the definition of the word game isn't based on whether something is fun, only whether some activity mechanically functions as a system in which players compete to win.

there are many games which are fun to some and not to others; for example, starcraft is fun if you enjoy base-building and micromanaging armies, chess is fun to others, and there are even some faggots out there who enjoy league of legends.

chess and starcraft are both games, stop trying to so hard and also kill yourself.

>>14187932

He also analyzed a match where Bobby Fischer apparently played against some top-tier dude, it's a fun 10 min watch.

Bobby Fischer was a good Jew

Fight me

>>14208343

>a game is a fun competition, whereas competitions arent fun

I know you're baiting because no living soul thinks any definition is based on subjective opinion.

>>14208286

This is why I really like Go. The studying to having-fun curve is much smoother. Also, the handicap system is really fair.

>>14208402

He was so typically jewish. Only a jew can be so self-hating.

>>14209922

the only good jew is a dead jew; in that sense, he was indeed a good jew.

Bump

>>14213830

King to f8

>>14208286

>only opener I've ever studied was the scotch game

>otherwise only studied the general principle of opening theory, as well as the "optimal" end result of development

I've got an ELO of around 1200 and have been playing for about 3 years. A couple of friends of mine all got into chess at the same time and played against one another and then on chess.com for a long time. One of my friends went autistic into the openers and I still regularly beat him using tactics alone.

Maybe you just suck lmao, I don't even have a high ELO and I have a blast with chess

>>14213830

B - Queen to D1, eat Tower

W - King escapes

B - Queen to D7, eat Queen hot lesbian action

Your move

>>14214250

Instead of king escaping white queen would hla black queen

>>14213830

Qxe4+, Ka1 Qc6 offer trading queens - gains another pawns + protects c7 pawn and rook at the same time, trading queens is obviously favourable for black>>14213830

>>14215096

>mom, mom! i told the boys on the tibetan pottery forum that i'm in mensa! will they be my friend now?

faggot

>>14214989

Not everyone is going to be good at visualization when it comes to chess, it really depends on your mbti type and if Si is dominant. Most people have an Si dominance but if you're not one of them then you're better off practicing in other ways than through visualization.

>>14215096

what are the uses of being part of mensa?

my IQ is 145. is there any benefit of joining this group?

>>14215282

You get Rick & Morty fans stealing your identity on online forums.

>>14215282

Finding a woman within 5 IQ points of your own, preferrably lower.

>>14215391

If someone decrypts what this mongoloid is saying I'll give them 3 internets.

>>14187517

I always used to have some chess game installed on my machines before, but I can't say I play it anymore. I don't really like playing against a computer. Against people is fun, but only the old fashioned way, with a physical board and preferably against someone about as shit as me, because I like to see them ponder. That's half of the entertainment.

>>14187940

Stockfish got owned by Google's AI AlphaZero.

AlphaZero is probably unbeatable.

>>14215645

But can that AI beat me at Yu Gi Oh?

>>14215645

>AlphaZero is probably unbeatable.

For a few years at most.

https://lichess.org/hkvtESdQ

let's play friends

>>14215883

It used to be much worse.

desu was a prevalent meme a long time ago

idea was

desu desu desu desu desudesu desu desu desu desudesu desu desu desu desudesu desu desu desu desudesu desu desu desu desu

who knows

also no one has accepted my lichess challenge, I have been waiting with the tab open for almost an hour lol

>>14215932

Maybe because you are a nigger.

>>14215932

i just joined and you're afk. gj m8.

>>14215932

sage for doublepost, but you've got about 5 minutes to start the game or i'm bailing.

>>14215929

I just realized RnM is current gen BBT. I'm so nerdy, like Sheridan XD.

>>14216008

I'm pretty sure BBT is current gen BBT.

I forgot to enable lichess on scriptsafe, my bad

https://lichess.org/2ewQvVNu

>>14216027

cuckchan filters tbh into desu

>>14216012

It's obviously not as cool anymore.

>>14216038

That's one explanation, but it doesn't cover bots replying to one another with nonsense. Or why it's found its way here all of a sudden.

>>14216062

Just cuckchanners using the lingo for no reason. I've talked to people who use it even outside of imageboard its like greentexting on Youtube or any non imageboard I guess

>>14216081

I haven't seen it used outside of imageboards and obviously weaaboo deviantart pages much, and it doesn't seem like it's seen any use in the mainstream net in that context. This is bugging the hell out of me now.

good games anon it was a pleasure

>>14215883

its a wordfilter you dumbass

>>14187517

If you suck at chess does that mean you're a retarded nigger? I can't win one novice 2 minute bullet game.

>>14218078

Bullet chess is shit.

>>14218118

Tell me about bullet chess, anon.

>>14218490

Chess boxing > bullet chess

>>14218078

any fellow chess scrubs here that wanna play?

>>14219031

chess boxing is an amazing concept tbh

>>14219306

>Shake your enemy's brain so hard he can no longer do proper strategy.

>>14219659

See >>14216038

Avance Wars > Chess.

Anyone wanna play?

>>14215661

AIs can't believe in the heart of the cards.

Is it decided that lichess is the preferred platform?

>>14216038

That's a pretty good filter to discourage ebonics.

>>14187517

Chess is garbage unbalanced crap. Go is where it's at.

>>14240874

Go is gay as shit dude. Stratego is where the good shit is at.

>>14241618

It's not gay if the balls don't touch.

>>14208402

He sounds like a Schizo

>>14241313

we're a pretty long way off from that still though.

>>14199207

pxq, rxq, Knxr. I can't see past that, but it's trading a rook and a queen for a queen and some position.

>>14215645

did black just cheat at 11:49? pawns can only capture diagonally as i recall

>>14267225

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En_passant

>>14267424

oh shit, thats gonna be a handy trick to pull out at my next chess game

>>14243903

You have a game to share? I can take a look at it.

>>14272982

Here's the only game I won in the past few weeks. It's a 13x13, no handicap, 5.5 komi. I'm on black, I won by like 0.5 points despite my best efforts. It's 20 kyu, so it's all pretty bad. I got scared that I didn't have enough points around move 100, and made the worst invasion ever on move 109. It honestly should have lost me the game, but I guess I just had just enough territory to afford my blunder, I'm actually really surprised that I won.

https://files.catbox.moe/fs4p2o.sgf

>>14208402

Bobby Fischer did nothing wrong.