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sell it or mine on it as much as possible until mining is no longer profitable, sell it

there is no point in mining with only one card on your main PC, sell it now because the 1070ti is newer, better, and costs less

>>14179861

I don't mine. Dunno much about it, but I doubt my electric bill VS profits from mining Ethereum is going to be a good balance.

Thoughts on building a computer at the moment? Right now my computer's PSU shorted so I don't really know if i should just replace it or just get a new build going entirely. Especially since DDR4's cost so damn much.

Right now my sights are pointed at a Ryzen 5 and a mother board to accompany it.

(Also note: My current build is fucking garbage)

>>14179853

Anon >>14179861 is right, either mine or sell.

>>14179881

You also have to factor the unpredictable time it takes to transfer your mined currency into actual currency.

>>14179879

>1070ti is newer

Yes.

>better

Than a 1080 Ti? Nope.

>cost less

Significantly less, but prices are up and supply is strained at the moment.

>>14179887

>Right now my computer's PSU shorted

I know that feel. Mine died a few months ago. Luckily it went gracefully and didn't take anything with it.

>>14179894

>shit will be even more overpriced when they release their new cards

When that happens the profits gained from selling a 1080 Ti will be even less. That's how I always lose money on selling used cards. The new one comes out and the price drops on the previous one like a hammer.

Apparently prices are also due to the chinese buying them up for pubg. But I have no idea how valid that claim is.

>>14179887

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>>14179906

If anything , the Chinese are buying them to mine and control as much cryptocurrency as they can and are using pubg as a smokescreen, bnever trust the Chinese scum

>>14179853

Is mining really the reason why prices are so fucking high again? Tried to put together a list of parts for my friend's budget but the only cards that aren't ridiculously marked up are weak garbage cards like the 1050 Ti

>>14179906

Doubt it's the Chinks. They already had a fairly healthy MMORPG market on PC so they probably already had a bunch of GPUs in the country for that already.

>>14179926

Name one single game worth playing that you can't play with a 1050 ti.

>>14179991

Was planning to buy a gpu as soon as payday but by the time I got paid it was already a few days too late.

>>14179952

Above 1080p resolution and medium settings you can make a lot of games run poorly on a 1050 Ti.

I'm thinking of abandoning 4K though. I have the horsepower to do 4K assuming the game is either optimized well enough, or failing that, it uses SLI. The performance deficit when you start a modern game and it won't utilize SLI is very noticeable. 21:9 @ 1440p seems like a good sweet spot for the high end. Problem is, they keep showing these crazy HDR G-Sync monitors at tech expos but they never come to market. Their release was pushed back and now there's tons of Freesync options with HDR but nothing with G-sync and HDR. Not that the HDR would be very good since they don't even list DCI-P3 coverage, but the refresh rates on the monitors they've shown are impressive nonetheless. I was going to get a 144Hz 4K monitor and just run most newer games at 2K resolutions to make use of the refresh speed, but now I kinda want to get an ultrawide monitor despite the headaches of getting games to run in 21:9 because there's going to be a G-sync one that does 200Hz. I already have some experience struggling to get games running in ultrawide resolutions from a long time ago when I had a triple monitor setup. Pretty much every game I installed, I had to go to WSGF first to see if there was a resolution fix.

>>14179991

>I'll just get a reliable seasonic psu

They're the best IMO, but like anything else failure is not impossible.

>It fucking blows. It interrupted my entire workflow for the semester break

When my Seasonic PSU failed (gracefully without killing everything) I had an additional Seasonic PSU in another system I could use as well as an older PSU (don't exactly trust it). Since I don't use the spare system as much I put the less-trusted PSU into it and the Seasonic that was in it before went into my main PC. The spare Seasonic is a pretty solid PSU and has powered plenty of systems.

I'm lucky to have all these parts around. It's not a warehouse or anything, but it's enough to keep things running if shit fails.

>>14180075

>Above 1080p resolution

Who fucking cares honestly, I've yet to see a game that would even remotely warrant that sort of upgrade. Especially now when most devs are so inept when it comes to world designing and one of their favorite excuses is how the modern graphics make their jobs difficult even though they have more assistance then ever like entire world creating algorithms 4gay is only going to feed their corner cutting excuses further. I would love to be wrong but even at it's best 4gay will likely just be an eventual iterative upgrade like 1080p was and the whole thing will have been greatly blown out of proportion by marketers so they could sell a few TVs earlier than other marketers.

>>14180075

4K is currently a meme made by Jewish marketers to make you spend a ton for barely any difference. just stay with 1080p until 4K gets as cheap as 1080p currently is.

Buying a new computer here, too dumb to make a custom rig myself.

I know I need above a GTX 960 to run Toonboom and 3-D modeling programs well, should I get 1080TI or is there a negligible difference between that and cheaper cards?

>>14180175

https://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1744?vs=1856

prices are getting closer to double prices a few months ago jesus fuck. fuck me for wanting to wait on upgrading a gpu from 1060 to 1070ti

All crypto miners should be fucking killed. I masturbate every time coin prices go down. I just want to build a fucking computer without having to pay million dollars to get a fucking decent graphics card.

well the crypto prices exploded and are down like 40-50%, government is cracking down on miners so

>>14179861

>until mining is no longer profitable

Mining hasn't been profitable for ages. You need to keep uping the amount of hardware you have to even make a profit, ergo if you don't have a big ass farm, then your two cards ain't going to do jack shit, especially when you look at electric bills.

>>14179853

>>14179926

>>14179952

I have a question for you guys. What games do you run that require strong graphics cards? I bought a 680 a long while ago, and recently replaced it with a GT 1030. I only play lots of older games ranging from the late 90's to late 00's. Other than that I also do some mainstream games that have low requirements. I do not play any AAA games at all.

I was just curious because I find it hard to justify stronger graphics cards which is sad as I like to buy and tinker with 3rd party coolers like the Mk-26, and Morpheus. The only way I can see to justify a stronger card is to push up the resolution and frame rate with high end monitors but I just don't care enough to do it.

>>14180397

I was perfectly content with a 660 until Nioh came out, there really is no justification for upgrades nowadays if you ask me.

>>14180397

I don't play much new games, but I'd like to get into the vr meme.

nobody sane uses anything above 1080p

there literally NO REASON to buy ANYTHING above rx480/580 or gtx1060

NONE

HDR IS GIMMICK, 4K IS JOKE, HIGH HZ IS IRRELEVANT

>>14180492

>HIGH HZ IS IRRELEVANT

You are wrong

>>14180519

sulla on hertsit perseessäs :DD :-DDD

>>14180492

>nobody sane uses anything above 1080p

1440p and 4k are nice for video and photo editing. I'd take a single 1440p over two screens and two 1440p over 3 1080p.

>mfw living in a contry that doens't follow any tech trends and the prices are almost always the same

heh

you guys still have it better

>>14180541

ok ok maybe between those two but the differences disappear after that

>>14180492

while true my 1060 runs everything i want at good fps, I'd like 1070ti or 1080 because i like having muti monitor set up.

>>14179991

It's going to be just like memory sticks, the cryptocurrency bubble will burst and the gpu prices will forever be stuck at their bloated numbers.

>Need to build new rendering computer

>Ram Badly Overpriced rught now because of videogame faggots buying way more RAM than they need

>>14180831

You don't need 16gb of ram

>>14179887

Not the best time to build, but gathering the parts on sale over the next six months is doable. My three year old computer is still worth 25% more than I paid. Good time to plan and watch sales, not much else.

>>14180843

>You don't need 16gb of ram

No, not really.

Except when you play the latest and greatest games.

Goddamn games now have a minimum requirement of 8Gb RAM

it sucks being a poorfag

>>14180843

>You don't need 16gb of ram

not really, except with in those cases where where ram is the limiting factor,

I had issues with that twice in my life (with a new computer)

one was with KSP, heavily modded to have a ton of stuff,

the other was with x-plane, due to detailed airplanes and scenery

and that is all in a linux environment, so you can definitely need it at some point,

>>14180855

>where is ram going

what does that even mean?

>>14181031

>this black hand

>Japanese keyboard

Give it back, Tyrone.

>>14181057

in what universe is that hand from a black person? you are literally retarded

>>14180855

except that's wrong, you dipshit

the smartphone demand is not growing stratospherically from what it has been in the last few years, there is no reason for there to be this kind of "shortage"; it's price collusion plain and simple, the same kind of shit the industry did 20 years ago except now because we have ancaps in charge in this country nobody is going to slap their shit and tell them to stop and we have to wait for fucking (((red))) china to do it for us

you. dont. need. 16. gb. of. ram. retard.

>>14181087

>everybody uses computers for the same thing

>retarded. passive. aggressive. twitter. like. post.

Fuck off nigger.

there is NOTHING positive about NVIDIA leading

all of their cards are overpriced, it inflates the prices, it was bad without mining craze, now its EVEN WORSE

>>14181092

eat a cock you money grubbing fat prick

only reason there even are high memory requirements, is because devs have been getting comfortable about taking advantage of it,

you didnt need this shit few years ago, everyone did the programming that was necessary within tight requirements

>>14181102

But ram is pretty cheap as far as components go

>>14181117

nope not any more, ram prices are going to keep going up (they already did because of some happening) from all the news i have been hearing

>>14180164

>X a meme

>barely any difference

>480p is a meme

>720p is a meme

>1080p is a meme

People gotta stop doing this. If 4K is too expensive for you just come out and say "it's too expensive" don't play make believe with these nonsense excuses. The bump in image fidelity is not "barely any difference". 3840x2160 resolution is quite a big fucking difference from a common 1280x800 especially when it's a physically larger screen. Distant objects have more detail, textures look cleaner/sharper, the overall image is simply much higher fidelity.

>>14180175

The 3D modeling programs likely lean on the GPU but I dunno that Toonboom is CUDA-accelerated. Maybe it can render with NVENC which uses the GPU to encode videos much faster.

anyone who buys "top of the line" PC hardware for gaming is a massive casual, guaranteed.

>>14181124

yeah DDR4 went at the ends of 2016 for like $40 per 8 gb and now hoovers around $80

>>14181834

Name me a web browser that isn't a memory-leaking piece of shit. Protip: you can't they're all garbage.

>>14181788

And it's impossible to run with any decent settings unless you have a $1000 graphics card and even then it's jittery 30 FPS shit.

>>14181840

Lynx

>>14181842

>30fps

It isn't and your poorfag is showing too much, i mean i could understand some arguments like that most games aren't ready for 4k yet or there is nothing but AAA trash in the lineup, but you seem to be screaming only sour grapes

I just wish at least once I could afford the latest and greatest in pc hardware. Instead I just lurk in these kinds of threads brimming with jealousy. One day in will join you all hopefully in PC Valhalla.

>>14181857

Lad, the 1080 Ti can't run Witcher 3 at max settings 4k. It's way too expensive, which means it's a meme.

>>14181869

> any decent settings

> at max settings

look at your previous post shitlord you re moving the goalposts

>>14181854

http://niceme.me

Kill yourself

>>14181884

>>>/reddit/

>>14181842

Nigger, my RX 480 (Which cost me $230 when miners weren't fucking over the market) can run some quality games at 4K and above 30fps (but I already have a 3x 1080p setup so I don't feel like I need 4K yet).

>>14181869

Witcher 3 is optimized like shit and everyone knows it. Not to mention every game made in the past ten years Ultra/Max settings have always been shit that give no tangible benefit and eat away at your resources for no apparent reason.

>>14179960

Once AMD is sold out they'll suck up the few hundred extra bucks for Nvidia stuff

>>14181869

pc hardware enthusiasts are the worst. i once built a top of the line machine. spent a bunch of money on it. within 6 months it cant even run the newest games on max settings. the worst part? those "newest" games weren't even as graphically good, let alone fun. i was always waiting for patches or driver updates so i could run the "new hot shit" at max settings with a tolerable framerate, because why start playing it otherwise?

it wasnt before long that they added another hardwired wall to block me out of max settings… i forgot what, but it was a shader version or DX version that would require a new purchase and there would be no update, patch, or new driver to fix this.

i mean, i literally pirated every single game because there was literally nothing released on PC with decent graphics worth playing since… modded gta4?

but then again, im a buyfag that emulates ps2 games, so atleast i get to up the graphics on ps2 games which actually requires a decently powerful machine.

>>14181874

>shitlord

go back to tumblr

>>14181840

ive been using palemoon. i have a shitload of tabs open and its "only" using about 450mb.

>>14179853

Pool mining ETH would be cost effective with that hardware, but honestly if the only reason you bought them is for games then I'd sell them and get a 1060.

>>14181912

As >>14181905 said, there's hardly any benefit to playing on ultra settings unless you're playing at 1440p or something along those lines. Most of the time you can hardly even notice the difference. Take The Witcher 3 and compare high shadows to ultra shadows. The difference is minimal and if you don't have an actual high end graphics card, it's hardly worth the lost frames. Optimization has been a pain in the ass anyway, regardless of what your hardware is, and it says a lot when the most optimized game this gen is NuDoom.

>>14182294

not all games have negligible differences in higher settings. but still, if you drop $4000 on a PC, you should be able to play a new game at max settings. im not advocating or supporting that, infact im supporting the opposite by discouraging people from getting into an arms race with PC hardware. its fucking pointless and the software is the bigger barrier than the hardware, and the software is almost completely out of your control.

>>14179887

Buy a pre-built. There are companies that use standard cases and boards. You can get a complete system with a RX 580 or GTX 1060 today for $750. Worst case, you will be forced to buy a HP or Dell gaming PC.

>>14180397

I currently run a roided GTX465se that I've ran since release, Only reason I want to up my gpu to a 1080ti or a volta (which will likely be out by the time this shithole price raise ends) is to play and tinker with VR. I'd like to get a 144hz 1440p or 2160p monitor to compliment my CRT.

I'm really proud of that 465, I smacked a zalman copper cpu heatsink on it with an extra plate milled by my freind to cool the extra components. Runs on a 920mhz core clock from the stock 675 at 74c at full load. When I get my new gpu I'd like to see if I could somehow break the ghz barrier on that card. anything higher that 920mhz makes it die.

>>14180843

Better to have something and not need it then needing it and not having it.

>>14182432

>Buy a pre-built

pre-builds got better lately, but I would still not trust them. They try to save money by using bad psu and trashy ram or very slow hdd's.

>>14182447

>They try to save money by using bad psu and trashy ram or very slow hdd's.

Then buy a better PSU or get a voltage regulator. SSDs are fairly cheap right now. The Crucial MX500s are comparable to the 850 EVOs and cost $79 for 250GB.

>>14182294

>it says a lot when the most optimized game this gen is NuDoom

The only thing it says is that you're full of shit

NuDoom's optimization is asstastic, even worse than Witcher 3 or Shadows of War.

>>14182479

You're still paying for the shitty PSUs, HDDs and RAM if you're buying a prebuilt. At that point its just make one from scratch.

>>14182479

But pre builds are usually more expensive than a self build computer or in some cases a little bit cheaper than what you would have paid. If I have to add my own parts to it, it becomes more expensive than building a computer on my own.

>>14182494

Buying a voltage regulator and a SSD wouldn't be replacing any existing part. If you want a premium build with the best parts, then you will need to build your own. You could also find out what components are in the pre-built and make a decision based on that.

>>14182514

Builders are making money off their discount rate for reselling the hardware, which they buy in bulk. Getting something at a lower cost requires buying used, reusing parts from an existing build, or assembling builds from sales over a period of time. I would recommend a person build their own PC if they are capable, but not at current prices.

>>14181884

XD

>>14179906

>Apparently prices are also due to the chinese buying them up for pubg. But I have no idea how valid that claim is.

PUBG has more sales than any other PC game in history. It probably aggravated the situation considering it runs like dog shit.

>>14181834

>what is memory leak

>>14182703

>Buying a voltage regulator and a SSD wouldn't be replacing any existing part

Those are still additional expenses that wouldn't exist if you didn't buy a prebuilt to begin with.

>>14182999

I'm not seeing build guides with a comparable system that are within $200 of that price point. That's $200 you have to upgrade the cheap parts that are currently affordable.

>>14179861

Mining isn't profitable unless you live in a country where electricity is dirt cheap. Maybe see if you can sell it to someone in Iceland where they run the entire fucking country for free out of the volcanoes.

>>14184170

Wrong, mining BTC isn't worth it. You make profits mining ETH, Monero and all sorts of shit right now, even with very high electricity prices

http://whattomine.com/

>>14179881

>>14184170

>mining isn't profitable

>mining ETH with a 1080ti

wow you guys are stupid

I have a 1080ti and mine with it while I'm not using it, makes about $10 a day mining Zclassic and Hush.

It's almost like the prices of graphics cards have gone up so much because people can make money with them.

Do some research and find out how and what to mine if you really want to make a profit.

>>14180938

>latest and greatesr games

Either or, faggot, not both.

>>>//r/pcmasterrace/

>>14181818

practically nobody uses OpenMP,OpenCL,CUDA in gaming because its damn near impossible to get it optimized and work properly, engines themselves cant work right with it, its worse then using scripting languages, overhead is ridiculous and you got to be extremely lazy to give up all the work you already put in just so you could use proprietary libraries

>>14180492

My accuracy in Xonotic with the railgun went up from ~35% to 55%. Right on the day I upgraded my display from 60 Hz to 144 Hz, I also beat several of my personal bests for race.

>>14190986

I saw the specific card going for $550, but it's supposed to be $400 normally.

>>14190997

>mods need to delete things I don't like

consider removing yourself

>>14185789

Mine doubled in price when it should be dirt cheap by now, it's beyond retarded.

>>14180827

I have 32gb, eat shit faggot.

>>14190997

>>14191042

If someone links their ebay listing then I could see reason to delete it, but the discussion itself is essentially "Is it a good idea to sell a video card now, during price hikes?" and that's an entirely valid discussion to have about a product related to gaming on a video games board.

>>14191042

>Consider removing yourself to an auction-based site. This is not one of those.

wow makes sense, must be why you have such an issue with all these ebay links posted in the thread.

oh wait, you're just being an autistic faggot. don't you have a mount & blade thread to be in?

>>14191083

based to be quite honest, would prefer /v/ to change hands to someone greater

>>14191601

Obama is a mutt, tho

>>14192833

Probably not until after Computex.

>>14179853

un sli that shit and keep one just to be on the safe side of things. I bet those cards will survive at least 2 gens from now on. if one fails, you still have a fresh one

>>14179853

RIP poorfags, this will do nothing to deter miners. They have so much fucking income that they can easily buy 50 GPUs with no problems because crypto is quite lucrative, even after the crash that happened. Either PC gaming will die or it will be a luxury for the rich from now on, I can't see crypto going down anytime soon.

>>14179853

>time to sell?

Is it really worth the hassle to gain a few hundreds at most?

Are you serious? I just checked gtx 1060, 1070, and 1080. Both have literally doubled in price since 2 months ago. A 1060 is at least $400, 1070 is sold out at $800-$1,000, and 1080 is $1000+.

Its been 19 damn months since the 10XX series released, and still no new cards, prices doubled, everything is sold out, and the newer cards (1070ti) are unable to be overclocked without overriding/using some special program.

Of course Nvidia won't release their new cards, thanks shitcoin.

>>14194014

Bitcoin is not mined with cards since 2014.

>>14193327

>They have so much fucking income

People are buying this shit up with fucking credit cards, literal fucking retards.

>>14179915

There's probably over 100,000 bots playing PUBG

>>14179960

AMD's drivers considerably better for mining, but nvidia has much better cards

>>14181031

When bitfinex is audited and is forced to reveal each Tether is not worth $1, and thus revealing that BTC has no anchored value, and thus revealing that every coin valued with a comparison to BTC doesn't have a real value.

>>14194014

> and the newer cards (1070ti) are unable to be overclocked without overriding/using some special program

Incorrect. The rule is that 1070 Ti cannot be shipped by a manufacturer in a pre-overclocked version. Many companies offer video cards with higher clocks and better cooling to compete with others, in the case of the 1070 Ti they can only offer better cooling, but no out-of-the-box factory overclock. The GPU boost still operates based on power and cooling though, so a better cooler results in higher clocks anyways. Plus you can overclock the 1070 Ti with the same tools you would use to overclock any other nVidia card.

I was considering a 1070 Ti for my mini-ITX build, but it seemed overkill as I only intended to run a 1080p Portable Monitor resolution with that particular build so I used a spare 780 Ti I had from years ago instead. My mini-ITX build is a budget build using some spare parts. New parts were the case, mini-ITX B350 motherboard, Ryzen R5 1600X CPU, CPU Corsair H50 Cooler, Corsair SFX power supply. The case was actually the most expensive thing because it was made by Lian Li, until I got a portable monitor with HDMI input which are not easy to find despite essentially just being a laptop monitor in a slim enclosure. It surprised me how few companies are actually making portable monitors with HDMI, but apparently ASUS showed off a portable monitor at CES 2018 that has HDMI input and is 4K OLED. So, assuming they ever release it, the market for portable monitors is going to finally get something good.