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>>14179527

>Who do you support in the civil war?

It doesn't matter. There is no reason to give a shit.

Wait, you could negotiate peace between the Stormcloaks and Empire?

>>14179573

it's part of the mainstory line. Solidifying the fact that picking a side is pointless other than RP reasons.

>>14179603

>>14179552

It's still fun to talk, speculate and argue with other people about stuff like that though.

>>14179609

I agree. It is without a doubt a pointless decision but it's interesting to see the reasoning behind your decision and discuss. I usually try a different side each play through and both side's motives I can get behind.

>pick stormcloaks

fighting for the freedom to worship Talos and drive out the Aldmeri Dominion

>pick empire

empire knows not to fuck with the Aldmeri Dominion and just play ball until they can gather strength to take on the Aldmeri Domion

>Elder Scrolls Lore Thread

>muh civil war, arrow in le knee, skyrim belongs 2 da nords!!! xDDD

What the fuck is this, facebook?

>>14179609

The main quest is about saving all of existence and it is still super hard to give a shit about it.

>>14179573

Temporarily, it is the only quest that recognizes that saving the entire world is more important.

Despite saving the entire world, you do not gain political power to force a third option despite essentially proving Talos' divinity.

>>14180047

What snow tower are you talking about?

>>14180097

The Mountain, it is the Tower of the Snow Elves. It's keystone was time, which was broken when the Nords used an Elder Scroll to send Alduin to the future.

>>14180108

wat

>>14179527

But the third option is negotiating a peace, where Skyrim becomes independent but an ally to the Empire. That way it works for everyone but the Thalmor, who wish Skyrim to be in constant turmoil.

>>14180224

You do that by winning the civil war.

You can't negotiate Skyrim independence, only a truce.

>>14179527

btw the pic in the OP is OC, I made it

rate

Imperials

Romans > Vikings

>>14180341

Haven't you read the OP picture?

>>14180267

Barely legible/10

>>14180355

zoom in, nigger

>>14179643

>the virgin empire

>capital city built far away from the borders

>Still needs to surround itself with a body of water

>gets anally decimated by tree elves anyway.

>all vassal states looks down on it.

>Constantly the butt of all jokes.

>Can't even protect it's emperors from assassins.

>Champion becomes a literal god of randum.

Imperials are a mistake.

>>14180400

>agrees to outlawing the God-King Figure that founded their Empire and having military police of the enemy enforce that inside their own borders

I've never given it much thought before, but does that whole civil war seem somewhat out of place, large-plotwise? I mean, the major thing people always bring up is the Empire supposedly giving in to the Aldmeri, but the game takes place in a vassal state that's actively rebelling. I understand that Oblivion just did Cyrodill, but it seems like it'd make much more sense to place this plot there rather than in Skyrim.

>>14180358

>>14180355

Backing the 'barely legible' rating.

>>14180514

I worked hard on it. :(

>>14180400

>placing the capital of an empire near its borders

What the fuck?

>>14180539

it's ok

>>14179527

i just like to kill imperials and stormcloacks alike so it doesn't really matter which side i support.

if given the choice i would side with the falmers

>>14180926

>choosing to side with a fucked up experiment of the Dwemer

>muh snow elves, who barely anything is known about, but totally have a claim to skyrim

>>14180539

Not hard enough.

What the fuck is this? Have we really been overrun this much by Reddit already? All of you, you have to go back.

>>14180993

>third picture

>oblivion crisis in black marsh

>the Argonians are so awesome, they forced Mehrunes Dagon to force the Oblivion Gates in Black Marsh

>they are male and female, anyone can be an argonian

>oh and they also attacked the Dunmer and completly BTFO of them and ethnically cleansed their lands, also vardernfall is now completly uninhabited

Ever since that one book writer decided to write argonians this way, I just came to dislike them. That is too much of a an argonian wank and is dangerously furry (or I guess scalie).

I am still mad about how that one book writer made up those events and the devs had to accept them as canon.

I was mad on the betheda forum, before skyrim released and am still mad today.

>>14181024

I would like it, if I could actually play as the winged Argonians or huge ones and not the type you probably play as they themselves send to Morrowind to be enslaved, because they are degenerate rejects.

>>14181042

Btw on the bethesda forums, when Skyrim came out I created a few mixed race threads, because a bug allowed you to mix 2 races together.

Is that still possible? That was kinda fun. I liked to roleplay as Jagar Tharn 2.0, who was created by a gangbang of like 4 different races.

>>14181062

You don't need a mod to mix the races actually.

But I just looked it up and it seems like I was too excited. There are some fun combinations, but most of the stuff just results in nothing interesting.

>>14180267

White text on white background/10

>>14181061

We had a morrowind thread some days ago and unless future games aren't tainted with faggotry then i don't see why other tamriel zones should not be discussed about.

>elder scrolls

>lore

What fucking lore? It has less lore than games without stories like Dark Souls or Quake.

The games are just made up with a bunch of unrelated quests, making the world of elder scrolls disjointed and unconnected. You cannot have lore without cohesion. Even the quests themed to the skyrim war aren't even joined in a grander narrative.

>>14181110

This is bait but I agree with it

what's going on

>>14181095

Yeah, you would be right if it wasn't be derailed and fucked up by Skyrim fag redditors!!!!

>>14181170

what are you specs?

>>14181170

Optimization mods, turn off graphical effects you don't want / cant notice.

>>14181198

>Optimization mods,

Name the ones available for special cuckdition.

>>14181012

The Infernal City cause more damage to TES than Oblivion ever could, few people realize that.

>>14181266

you can negotiate peace with the stormcloaks and imperials, that will probably be how they do it.

>>14181266

TES6 may be based in valenwood and story about Thalmor's cruelty still didn't end. It is going to be about conflict between wood elves and high elves, manlet elves and chad elves.

>>14181272

You can negotiate a temporary truce to allow Whiterun to join the Empire. That's hardly "peace".

>>14180922

>Mannimarco reduced to Bootlicking Daedracuck instead on the ingenius pioneer of modern necromantic art, praised by Sload and won support with Molag bal despite the capriciousness of the relationship

>Additionally make him stupidly youg

>Molag Bal voiced by Sheogorath, instead of the guy from TESIV at his shrine quest where he sounds like he immediately hates you just from his voice alone

>Completely ruin Vampirism in the same underwhelming manner, as Skyrim once again, going against the absolutegoodlore of the original untainted Immortal blood because of TESIV casuals not being able to read the first book in the entire game, and beause Bethsit didn't implement vampirism working in the game, with broken sunlight damage visuals, spell effects and the actual script for the application of the condition Vampirism requires you to get pozzed by a special mob then join a feminist cult

On the plus side, there is some good degree of implementation of TES gameplay except, you know, actually functional, but the constant post-skyshit shit lore bogs everything down.

Also, not paying that kind of money at all for this sort of thing.

>>14181281

Bandits in daedric armor

>>14181281

>enter dungeon at level 1

>its full of rats

>enter dungeon at level 20

>its full of trolls

>enter dungeon at level 60

>its full of ogres

>rats suddenly turned into trolls and trolls turned into ogres

>and they all have enough autoleveled HP to make even your best armor/weapon seem puny compared to their stats

>>14181300

Why this anime girl has a mustache?

>>14181298

I'm sorry but all my money has to go into swords and weapons because the ones I have CONSTANTLY BREAK

>>14181315

You can't even play 90% of that in TES.

>>14181323

The secret to oblivion on middle difficulty slider is simple:

>enemy types autolevel

>potential items/equipment autolevel

>armor types on literally everyone autolevel

But most importantly:

>health/damage also autolevels

>>14181341

Stormcloaks also have argonian slaves and have a refugee district for dark elves. They are civic as fuck.

>>14181331

I was just chalking it up to the fact I am playing a custom Melee/Spellcaster class, but now I guess it makes more sense.

>>14181323

You can actually fool the system!

1.) Pick major skills which you wont use

2.) Pick secondary skills which you rarely will use

3.) Use the skills which you didn't picked

4.) Level them up,

5.) When you get enough point to get the max multiplier (5x) level up the major skills and your character too

6.) Now you way more powerful than the auto-leveled mob and broke the artifical difficulty

7.) Do the cake walk!

>>14181170

Do you mean Crash wise or FPS? I struggle with neither on a 1060 with this mod: https://rd.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/10547

If you want to start Modding I would get this for mod management and get this Unofficial Patch:https://rd.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/266?tab=files

and These optimized textures to use less Vram: https://rd.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/3858

Optimization Mod: https://rd.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/14084

and Low res Particles for fps boost: https://rd.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/2388?tab=files

>>14181351

>Melee/Spellcaster class

Its not exactly bad tactic. The only way to deal damage is boosting weapon and spell damage, and lowering your own health (because the more you yourself have health, the more health enemies will have). So level up that damned destruction magic, get most powerful spells in it, and get best prized weapons on high level quests, by waiting for certain level to get them (like umbra sword is only useful if you're above lvl 60).

>>14181361

Wew, you actually gave me some interesting links, thank you anon.

>>14181361

Sorry Get this Mod Manager:

https://rd.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/6194

>>14181365

I haven't put any points into endurance yet. I basically just use both my mana pool / fatigue to nuke down whatever is in my way.

>>14181369

No Problem What are you specs if you don't mind me asking Skyrim se is honestly Bethesda's most stable game released and I haven't had crashes Unless I fucked something with Meshe mods or something else egregious.

>>14181387

1050 ti, 8 gb ram, Core2Quad 2 Q9300 2.50ghz

Cheap machine to be quite honest. Handles witcher 3 though.

>>14181406

Its easier to just install OOO even if you intend to play vanilla oblivion. Or else you will just stuck simply because you love to rp so much instead of following the game's leveling rules.

>>14181412

IMO OOO add too much shit, all I want is just a leveled list edit.

>>14181397

Ok Not bad You can probably handle 2k texture mods if you want to. God Rays seems to be the biggest drain on performance as well if you get rid of anything that should be first.

>>14180922

They still have that 20 year old Aldmer queen around?

>>14181490

https://rd.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/46199

I loved Skyrim when it came out because it was my first rpg besides Pokémon and a few other handheld jrpgs, but looking back on it after getting into real rpgs tabletop is the only real rpg, there's so many missed opportunities.

Like, why isn't there a quest where you walk into Solitude and use your speech skill to stop the execution then defend Roggvir in trial?

I'm terrified of the rapid advancement of AI but at least for a couple years in between their invention and the world getting destroyed there should be a super good vidya rpgs that are actually as limitless as real rpgs for the first time.

>>14181307

And you're not fixing that shit yourself?

>>14181514

Nexus mods is the least sketchy modding sight you can get right now.

>>14181538

They require account creation because they have premium membership which allows you to download with speed above default 1mb/s.

>>14180922

Hahaha oh god, I remember for 6 months while I was keeping tabs on this game when it first came out people bitched because of unkillable kings or some shit.

Which are basically one player of each faction being made king or something.

It made them insanely strong to the point where with the right gear they could heal past anything.

Even with 100+ people all attacking him he could just run around targeting highest dps and heal through it all. On top of that other kings couldn't kill each other either.

Such a shitshow.

>>14181033

Every Argonian that works outside of the blackmarsh is a spy, the only exception being Argonians who have never had Hist sap, but to Argonians who have they're not viewed as actual Argonians.

The Hist are close to an eldritch being they don't think on ways that are similar to ours, they don't care if their people are enslaved, they don't mind invasion because no one can actually travel through black marsh, they just dislike population rising to high of other species, where then they make super aids happen or when Deadra thinks they're hot shit

I just got around to doing the Civil War questline for the first time ever. For what's supposed to be the "B plot" of the game, it's incredibly boring and tedious and by the time I got to the end I was just wishing for it to be over. I can see why this topic gets so much flak now.

>>14179527

I support the extermination of all nonhuman species from Tamriel. This is easy to sell, because even normalfags can comprehend that they're entirely different species. Keep some elves for sex slaves (they don't die and can't get pregnant) and boom, you have yourself a better world.

>>14181764

>Keep some elves for sex slaves

>they don't die and can't get pregnant

The breton mutt race says hi…

What are some good gameplay mods for Skyrim if I want to make a punch-person?

>>14181981

None. You can't fix the combat.

>>14181987

fug

>>14181987

>>14181992

The best combat i've been able to get is with these mods installed in this order:

Modern Brawl Bug Fix https://rd.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1473

Mortal Enemies SE https://rd.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/4881

Combat Evolved https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1525/

Deadly Combat https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/8850

Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim https://rd.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1368

No BS AI Projectile Dodge https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1763

Dodge Mod SE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/14512

Get something to lower the arrow damage though because those will 1 shot you with difficulty up due to the way skyrim was made archery is way over powered.

>>14180047

>If you reunite Skyrim under Ulfric you undo what has deactivated the Snow-tower and prevent it from being deactivated in the future, making what has been sundered whole, giving it a king, and stopping the bleeding of the land.

Could you direct me to the sources for these. I'd like to look more into depth at this.

>>14182239

What kind of character do you play? I play a 2 handed with with some magic kind of like a pyromancer in dark souls and with that set up dodges matter as does blocking and other things.

>>14182310

Damn I thought you would like that then because its as close to dark souls combat in Skyrim as I could get (which was what I was going for) I play skyrim in 1st person exclusively though 3rd person any modern Bethesda game kinda sucks to me.

>>14182347

Nioh created a better version of souls combat. And ds3 was total shit. So its already dead.

>>14182347

DaS1's combat was fine.

>>14182401

Heavy armor is not an option so no, it's not fine. Too many iframes.

>>14179527

>Lore

Jesus christ….

>>14181365

>the more you yourself have health, the more health enemies will have

Not exactly, it's only dependent on your level. So if destruction or blade are your major skills and you level only them you'll still gain levels, and so will your enemies.

>>14183520

>that Island to the left

I want to visit it.

>>14183563

>>14183649

You can actually..

>>14180553

You'll notice this still applies to stronger countries to this day. It's a "come at me bro" kind of deal.

Moscow and Washington are not dead center in their landmass. Neither is Beijing.

Worst Korea is the only one suffering from this kind of bluffing.

>>14183850

Also, good for trading.

>>14180993

>first pic

Someone please fire Emil Pagliarulo and hire this guy.

>>14179527

Holy fuck impact was a mistake.

>>14184039

Are you saying those are nip made mods?

>>14184138

That's the best part of the lore, Dagoth Ur did nothing wrong.

>>14184138

>being the puppets of trees

>>14184175

Dagoth Ur was spreading his will through mind control and a horrible disease. He was doing plenty wrong.

>>14184862

>Corprus

>Disease

Its a divine blessing, from a being that is the opposite of the sleeping god head, and he's taking revenge on the Tribunal for killing the Nerevere.

>>14185076

Shame he became the Anti-Chim unaware of what he was actually doing the universe by misreading the understanding of his place in it and thus became a threat to all life, you could've been bros again.

>>14185092

>threat to all life

But there is no life in TES, nothing exists, nothing will ever exist. In the end everything will end because the dream finally stops and another dream will form.

>>14185114

The dream is plenty real, just because its the in the mind of god doesn't mean it doesn't exist, if it doesn't exist then people from the dream would never be able to become the next sleeping god like what happened with two brothers over the death of their mutual lover.

>>14185137

It never reach tamriel it was for the moment only on vardenfel.

>>14185146

>It never reach tamriel it was for the moment only on vardenfel.

What the fuck do you think Akulakhan was for? What do you think the Ghost Fence was doing? Corprus was contained on Vvardenfel because the Ghost Fence was keeping Red Mountain quarantined. Ur was building Akulakhan as a weapon to invade the rest of Tamriel.

>>14185154

>ghostfence

Are you retarded? Ghost fence was a small perimeter around Red mountain, the plot was Corprus was circumventing it because of cliff racers.

How long before the niggers swordsmanship so hard they nuke tamriel? If such a thing was even possible can you create nukes from other skills? Could the orsimer create nuke swords ala HoMM? How long before the bosmer lose their glamor entirely and get fucking purged like they goddamn deserve? When are the Argonians going to prove the greatest antagonists on the continent? What the fuck is going on over in Akabur? Would the other continents have their own towers or is Tamriel just extra special?

CODA MAKES IT CANON

>>14185202

>Believing niggershines about how "we wuz kangz and sheeitt, we hads a whole contnent befor I swungs my sword and broked it"

>>14185223

They came from somewhere they had completely shat up, how long before the shitting of tamriel? Some fucking Dindu is gonna ooga booga his way into white gold tower and use the elder scrolls as toilet paper or some shit you fucking know it.

>>14185199

>The only non-asshole gods are the Nine, and even that's a stretch

The Nine aren't even benevolent, really, they act in self-interest just as much as the Daedra do. The only reason the Aedra give a shit about mortals and the mundus is because if those get fucked then they do as well because they make up the physical properties of the material world (and I use the word material very hesitantly here seeing as how it's a dream).

>>14185202

I'm not sure if the redguards even have any swordsman left that would be strong enough to do that let alone two that would have to fight.

>>14185223

>thinking redguards are the niggers of TES

>not the bosmer

You realize they live in a jungle and eat each other right?

>>14185243

Bosmer don't get enough hate, everyone seems to forget about them.

>>14185254

I think that's because the most recent game didn't really do anything with them. Morrowind had Fargoth and Gaenor, plus the fact the race had annoying voices. Oblivion had the adoring fan and that one paranoid fucker in Skingrad. Skyrim doesn't really have any notably crazy or annoying Bosmer.

>>14185261

Skyrim doesn't have any really memorable characters. The only one that people can ever name is the dragon that lives on top of the throat of the world and he only has a handful of lines of dialogue. Skyrim is absolute shit. It's funny that a game like Morrowind, where the characters are basically just shitty chatroom bots, has more memorable characters than the fully-voiced, unkillable NPCs of Skyrim. Like, Fargoth is such an inconsequential character but everyone remembers him because he's an annoying weasel who owes money all over town and hides his debts in a fucking tree trunk.

Elder Scrolls 6 will be Fallout 4 with swords.

>>14185323

Fallout 4 is already Skyrim with guns, so of course Skyrim 2 will be Skyrim without guns.

>>14185300

I thought Miraak was pretty memorable. Neloth was, too, but he was ripped straight from Morrowind, so he hardly counts.

>>14181232

reminder that the special edition was granted for free on Steam to everyone owning skyrim+dlcs

>>14185345

That implies you bought Skyrim and all the dlcs. You really think that's better?

>>14181490

It's a free country.

>>14184175

Dagoth Ur is a faggot and probably sithis 2

>no mods that let you join dagoth ur and remove imperial from the world

>>14185389

lol what, Sithis is the brother of the sleeping god who represents death and stasis and the original state of the world before the Sleeping God Head dream a new world to deny the death of his lover.

>>14179527

>civil war

Are you talking about skyrim? Are you new or just shitposting?

>>14180267

Now I know you're shitposting

>>14185473

The answer is no. You were never intended to be able to join the Sixth House.

>>14185223

>hate magic because "lol, we nuked our continent with magic"

>actually it was insane swordsmanship!

That was retarded, neat in concept, but still didn't make sense. The games make it a point to separate "magic" that you use in game from stuff like the Voice, what the Dwemer did, or that shit. It would have been far more sensible where crazy mages accidentally fucked their continent with necromantic practices killing everything and spawning hordes of undead, or they tried to be lazy and make zombies/skellies do all the manual labor and ended up with a similar situation.

>>14185300

Character is more than dialog, which is what a lot of people seem to forget. I always remember that one woman, something Half-Troll, that had a house that looked like she went on a rampage or was insanely paranoid. I don't remember her being part of anything, just that for some reason they decided to have a woman have this torn up house. Also because I always used her and a bosmer guard in Tribunal to level up persuasion by hitting on them. The bosmer guard ended up pissing me off because of that annoying voice doing cheesy one liners whenever I passed her by.

>>14185597

Redguards' distrust of magic isn't from the fact Yokuda got nuked. They initially saw it as weak and shameful, as their culture valued physical strength and skill, especially with a blade. That eventually grew into a distrust of mages in general.

>>14185654

My mistake then.

>>14183997

What suite of mods make for a good playthrough instead of just screenshot bait?

>>14185360

script extender is out

>>14181300

He didn't say Skyrim though.

>>14186448

>most good animation mods are made by them too

Don't remind me.

>nip makes needs mod

>needs mod also comes with a lot of animations for actions Beth didn't bother with, like pulling chains for doors in dungeons

>nip doesn't make animations into a separate mod, meaning you need to deal with the needs shit to get the cool animations

>>14186484

An alpha of it is out, and a lot of ported mods haven't been updated to use it.

I dont suppot anyone, I just show up where theres fighting, kill whoever is left standing, and loot all the bodies. War is profifable.

>>14190571

khajiit.

>>14190571

Where's the sload princess?

>>14190571

>Jill Princess

>Elder Scroll of CHIM

Well this brings back traumatic memories

>>14190571

>Ayleid Prince(ss)

wew

>>14185597

The Voice, the Dwemer's tonal architecture and the Redguards' sword-singing are all related as they fuck with the very nature of the "reality" of the dream(Skyrim depicted this incredibly poorly with it's dragon shouts). Notice how they all involve sound in some way, there's something about weird metaphysical sound that is crucial to the way the universe works. Kirkbride might be a drunk stuck in a perpetual acid flashback but his explanations do make some sense sometimes.

>Character is more than dialog

I agree 100%, the little set-pieces around a character and even the armor they're wearing gives you a small glimpse into who they are. Divayth Fyr is a great example. In fact all the Telvanni wizards are great examples. What I'm really trying to say is Telvanni is best house

>>14190571

Dunmer obviously. She'd put out quickly and because of her Tribunal religion I would get to take her anal virginity

>A Dark Elf woman was being shown around Daggerfall. When she was shown the magnificent Castle Daggerfall, she smiled sweetly to her guild [sic] and whispered, "It reminds me of sex."

>"That's odd," said her guild [sic]. "Why does our Castle Daggerfall remind you of sex?"

>The Dark Elf sighed, "Everything does."

>>14190571

>no one going harem mode

Ok, I'll go argonian maido with hist sap as free dowry, then snow white falmer and femboy ayleid, last i use flesh sculptor and sap to make me a big guy, combine with the snow prince spear so I can fight orc dad and claim orsimer princess as my final wife.

The more important question is which Daedric Prince(s) do you usually roll with?

For myself, I always find myself drawn to Hermaeus Mora.

>>14179527

I like the fact that people have put more thought and effort into this than the developers themselves. With well-constructed arguments and reasoning you would never have seen from the developers themselves. As for the question itself, I could give less of a fuck. The conflict doesn't interest me because I'm given no reason to give a shit.

>>14185137

>And, for being so "loyal", he didn't even give the Nerevarine a chance to join him.

>"My Lord Dagoth bids you come to Red Mountain. For the friendship and honor that once you shared, he would grant you counsel and power, if only you would pledge that friendship anew. I am not your Lord Dagoth, yet I, too, would say to you… Do you come with weapons to strike me down? Or would you put away your weapon, and join me in friendship?""

>>14191608

That's what the priest says. Then, when you get to Dagoth Ur, he says

>"But I have won this place and power by right of conquest. By right of daring and enterprise. I will not risk it to cunning and deceit. I offer you no deals. If you are my enemy, I cannot trust you. And even if you are not my enemy, I cannot let you live."

>>14191608

>>14191979

He is as indecisive as a woman and thus this is how you make him regain his senses.

I always sided with Stormcloaks…

Once I also tried to do peacetalks, but when I saw that the Stormcloaks had to give up more then the Imperials I called for war.

Some normie friend of mine asked why, and didn't understand why you would support the stormcloaks… I don't understand how you can support the imperials.

>>14191979

Yeah, because at that point the Nerevarine has declared himself his enemy by attacking Sixth House fortresses and taking the Tools of Kagrenac. He still welcomes the Nerevarine as a friend to the Heart Chamber and makes it clear he doesn't relish having to kill him, but obviously he can't trust the Nerevarine or let him leave the Heart Chamber without at least a fight. The time for offers is long past by the time you physically reach Dagoth.

>>14190796

Music and sound is integral to the TES setting, and Oblivion once again is where they stopped caring. In Morrowind, you literally hear the heartbeat of the Heart of Lorkhan throughout the main theme. Oblivion's soundtrack, though beautiful does not thematically tie back into the TES setting, same with Skyrim which is just ebin viking shouts.

It also explains the strange Bells you find in every Sixth house base as that is where they attempted to screw with the fabric of reality by imitating the beating of Lorkhans heart.

>>14190571

Dunmer, Breton and Nord all seem like good candidates to me.

But which one to go for?

Why is Elder Scrolls and Halo the only vidya franchises to have actually attempted and succeeded at building a large EU and set of lore?

Given that games allow for player action and non-linearity, that exponentially increases the amount of lore that any given title can have, and while a number of games do use that for good worldbuilding, such as the Souls games, ES and Halo are the only ones to actually capitalize on it as key part of their franchise, speffically putting stuff out to appeal to lorefags and building on stuff.

Especially since you don't even need alinear games to do it: Halo is linear and doesn;tt allow for the same sort of internal worldbuilding ES does to ttthe same extent, yet makes up for it just by designing lore info beforehand, and then putting out EU media and designign the game's single players to interconnect with those: That's easily a viable strategy other franchises that are linear could use.

>>14197066 (checked)

Are there any archives of those etch-a-sketch threads?

>>14197805

That requires effort and why bother with effort when retards will buy something shat out in 3 months like Shadow of Morder 3: "Time to kill Sauron and take his place".

>>14186527

this

>>14197056

And if you go to him before any of that happens, not only does he still not let you join him, he specifically tells you that you are not prepared and to go get the fucking tools. And, even if you get wraithguard through the alternate quest path, meaning you've gone and killed Vivec, he still forces you to fight him. No matter what, he steers you down the path of facing him.

>>14191442

Meridia and occasionally Azura. Of course I usually go for a very prejudiced Battlemage. As in 'Trafficking with and fucking Daedra is fine, but necromancers get set on fire until it stops being funny'.

It never stops being funny

>>14191382

Wouldn't that work better for Sotha Sil and his sex bots?

>>14198235

Those are game limitations. The back path to getting Wraithguard would have at one point led to joining the Sixth House. Obviously that was cut from the game, so what we're left with is only one path: confrontation with Dagoth and dialogue to match. There's no point including dialogue of him offering to let you join the Sixth House if you show up unprepared because it's impossible to do so. The player has no choice but to refuse the offer he makes in his letter because of the plot. That's not Dagoth steering you down the path of facing him, it's the game.

>>14202140

>it's a game limitation

>that means it doesn't count

>even though there's nothing contradicting the game, and the games are where the lore comes from in the first place

The game says that's how he behaves, so that's canonically how he behaves. Morrowind's main quest was explicitly designed to have one ending. Dagoth Ur fails, Tamriel is saved, and the Nerevarine goes down into history. Beth clearly didn't want to have to do another Warp in the West, so they wrote the story so they didn't have to. Ur isn't the same mer he was when he was friends with Nerevar. Tampering with the Heart and experiencing his weird inverse death thing has made him more than a little nuts. He thinks he's doing his followers a favor by turning them into mutant abominations, and he's gone power hungry and wishes to conquer all of Tamriel. He's acquired quite the god complex, too. Wanting to protect his power at any cost, even if it means having to kill the reincarnation of his best friend, is consistent with his character.

Question: Which Aldimeri Dominion state would be better for a tropical jungle setting: Summerset Isle or Valenwood?

Also what if TES VI made the Nords win civil war and the empire shrinks to only Cyrodil and Morrowind has full independence?

>>14202383

>Question: Which Aldimeri Dominion state would be better for a tropical jungle setting: Summerset Isle or Valenwood?

Doesn't matter, Beth will shit up either.

>Also what if TES VI made the Nords win civil war and the empire shrinks to only Cyrodil and Morrowind has full independence?

Not only has that generally been what the series has been leading up to, as even Morrowind had hints of the Empire's eventual collapse, but I doubt it will really affect TESVI's plot, all that much.

>>14190571

WHY IMPERIAL PRINCESS IS A NIGGER?

WHY IS SHE A NIGGER?

>>14202636

She's tan dude

>>14202560

For some reason I was having a dream TESVI having a "Republic of Cyrodil" instead of an empire. After Skyrim winning their independence the Imperial Talos worshippers overthrew their cuckold emperor. And instead of picking a new dynasty the Imperials turned to democracy to vote in their lawmakers, executives, and courts. But this is modern Bethesda. They'll make your character talk and take away the role-playing.

>>14202768

>let's turn a dysfunctional empire into a hot mess so corrupt they'll be begging for things to go back to how they were

And then they realize that there is no going back.

>>14202768

I can actually see Beth doing that. The DB quests in Skyrim do have you assassinate the current emperor, and Wulf said its time for something new. However, I don't see that happening with the Thalmor's current hold on the Empire. They're much more deeply rooted in Cyrodil than in Skyrim, so I don't see a rebellion doing nearly as well as Ulfric's, and even his wasn't doing all that great.

>>14202802

>And then they realize that there is no going back.

That's the point.

>>14202807

Only a new hero god will convince the Thalmore to leave Cyrodiil alone. That's not going to happen for a while. Unless something happens to drive Aldimeri out of the continen, something like taking over Valenwood.

The other retarded thing I can see Tom lying about is that you are the new emperor of Tamriel.

>>14203580

Or Numidium comes back and fucks the Thalmor up again. I'd be fine with that, as long as it doesn't make c0da actually happen.

This thread is making me want to play the series in order. Is Arena worth playing? I got the impression it wasn't but I don't remember exactly why.

>>14205459

It's nothing special. It isn't bad, but it isn't great. It doesn't contribute much to the overall series with its story, either, so the game is completely skippable. All you need to know is that imperial battlemage Jagar Tharn disguises as the emperor and takes his place, and you stop him by finding and assembling the Staff of Chaos.

>>14202324

None of this changes the fact that he still makes an offer to the Nerevarine to join him in good faith. Or as much "good faith" as Dagoth could have in his hunger for power and madness. That's the crux of this argument. The point about game limitations is that the Sixth House being unjoinable makes it seem like Dagoth's offer is empty, but that's just a result of the devs not wanting to deal with another Warp in the West situation, like you said. When you speak with Dagoth you can tell him you're going to finish Akulakhan and drive the Empire out, or take the power of the Heart for yourself, but the only actual option available to you is to the destroy the Heart. Likewise, there are hints at Dagoth actually allowing you to join him, but it's not actually possible. That doesn't mean his offer is moot.

>>14202807

I think Wulf's comments hint at the Thalmor taking over and destroying the Empire completely, only for something else to rise up and take it's place.

>I don't know. Could be messy. But change is never pretty.

We'll probably see an entirely new coalition of Man and Mer forged out of full scale war on Tamriel. We'll definitely see another tower deactivated, and we're pretty much down to two assuming there's no hidden tower in Black Marsh, or that the Khajiit aren't a tower themselves with the Mane as the stone, which has been suggested. And once Tamriel is just down to Ada-Mantia the whole continent is going to shit itself.

>>14205459

Most of the lore apart from the main events from Arena was either dropped or retconned for the rest of the series as they fleshed the world out. It might be worth trying it for yourself to see if you like it. Daggerfall might be a better starting point.

I'm also thinking from a gameplay perspective which new region would naturally require new innovations to get around. But this is also me thinking if Bethesda is going to use some idTech. I'm thinking a tropical dinosaur rainforest like Valenwood would be the next logical step.

To get around Valenwood you have to Tarzan on trees and jump around. Athletics and Acrobatics can come back as skills with practical application. Athletics for climbing and Acrobatics for double jump and tumble. Also I expect some rennaisaunce. The demo I thought about to show off TESVI is you play a Bosmer with twin pistol grip crossbows, a grappling hook you throw, and a spear you can poke or throw. Bosmer can also grapple enemies with unarmed combat and wrestle them before retrieving spear. Blades are now finesse weapons which you can cut enemies via riposte when blocking. Blades include rapier, scimitar, daggers, and katanas actually swing like fucking katanas. Blunt weapons are "hafted" with axes, clubs, maces, and hammers. Axes can grab shields. Pole arms include quarterstaff, spear, halberd, etc. Also some weapons are better at throwing than others. The throw skill can also be used with magic spells like lava ball or alchemic splash potions and bombs. The variety of flora is naturally going to expand alchemy.

For lore: Valenwood is within the dominion but Bosmer aren't that friendly with the Altmer. Could have the goal to reactivate/builr a tower and that's how you become god emperor to make Tamriel great again.

>>14205776

Which are the last two towers?

>>14206250

You are greatly overestimating the effort and creativity Bethesda will put in the next game. Also, the player is not going to have such a significant role as becoming the next emperor of Tamriel. TES protags fade into obscurity, or, in Oblivion's case, get overwritten by an existing personality.

heard there was an unofficial launcher for Daggerfall that has some good bug patches, is that true?

I always wanted to stick with Daggerfall in DoS but the bugs are fucking game shattering

>>14190571

All are pretty fucking solid, but gonna go with

>Jill princess & Falmer princess

>use scroll for all shouts then just wear the silk blindfold to compensate for loss of sight

>if get CHIM scroll, remove Jill jealousy

Spear would be nice, too.

>>14207606

no leave to /esg/ and never come back

>>14207613

But Anon, the lewds must flow.

>>14207488

Shor is part of the Nord pantheon, he just isn't one of the Nine.

>>14207606

When I upgrade my PC I'll be sure to tell you. So far I have enough lewd mods on Oblivion to make me really consider what I'm doing with my life.

Reminder that the Elder Scrolls is just a part of the Zelda Universe and thus a part of the Donkey Kong extended universe megalore

>>14209333 (checked)

Sounds interesting, the power of autism is great.

>>14209755

The Aldmeri Dominion seeks to subjugate man so they don't get in the way of unmaking creation. The Thalmor are the biggest mortal threat to Tamriel, because they're trying to hit a metaphysical undo button for the entire thing.

>>14209333

But lewd mods on oblivion look like ass and aren't even animated well,or at least when i tried them they were.

>ES thread

>it's filled with skyrim redditors

LOL

>>14211080

>everything that gains popularity is reddit

Sounds like some edgy hipster crap.

>>14211082

>skyrim isn't reddit

Am I in some bizarro world?

>>14211093

Yes, it's magical, you can actually enjoy/not hate something and not be tied to a specific website as a meme! I know, unbelievable!

>>14211150

>enjoy Skyrim

I AM in a bizarro world

>>14211186

Well, Skyrim isn't good.

>>14211209

I agree.

>>14209755

That looks like boxxy.

What would Pelinal do?

>>14181281

I would only ever agree because the Dark Seducers in the Shivering Isles make my dick diamonds.

>>14212165

Ulfric is a sleeper agent of the Thalmor, though, and they were about to prevent his execution when Alduin interrupted things.

>>14212325

Sorry, I misunderstood the meaning of sleeper agent. What I meant is what you said, that Ulfric is useful to them and acting in a way that benefits them, but he doesn't know it. And I disagree that an independent Skyrim would be "disastrous". Most of the soldiers on both sides of the civil war are native Nords, meaning most of Skyrim's good work force will be dead, injured, or simply exhausted. In much the same fashion, both sides are draining Skyrim's natural resources to fuel their war. And then the dragons came in and started fucking up shit more, with Skyrim being at the very center of it.

>>14212540

Well the dragons are dealt with in canon, so it's not like that matters. You have Cyrodil, Hammerfell, and Morrowind blocking passage to Skyrim for the Thalmor, but I guess the Empire would just let them through. Yeah the Thalmor could just blitz through and try to take Skyrim right after the war, but with the Stormcloaks being motivated after kicking the Empire's ass, they'd put up a good enough fight.

You know, occupying a foreign nation full of a fighting population who hate you for trying to take away their religion and culture is damn near impossible, especially when another nation (the Empire) also hates you and will take the opportunity to invade your ass the moment you look weak. So yeah, and independent would be disastrous, the Thalmor can't occupy them, assuming they beat independent Skyrim in a war. Look what happened when the Thalmor tried to invade Hammerfell, they got their asses kicked and were sent packing. I just don't see how an independent Skyrim is worse than the Empire quelling the civil war. The Empire has lost, they signed the White Gold Concordant and outlawed the worship of the Ninth Divine, their emperor is assassinated. I just don't see how that's better.

>>14206250

Green-Sap and Ada-Mantia.

Numidium was destroyed during the Warp in the West. Red Mountain was deactivated when Lorkhan's Heart was destroyed. White-Gold was deactivated when the Amulet of Kings was broken to let Akatosh's avatar appear, and at the same time during the Oblivion Crisis, Crystal-Like-Law was destroyed by Daedra although Crystal exists on other planes, and only the physical tower on Nirn was toppled, nothing is stated about its stone. It's possible the Thalmor deactivated the stone when they came to power or that without the tower on Nirn the stone was rendered moot. Snow-Throat was deactivated in Skyrim.

>>14207488

>Why is it seemingly just Bretons and Altmer who worship Magnus despite everything he did?

There is an Imperial festival in Magnus' honour, but the most of the other races on Tamriel, except for Redguards, are more Lorkhan-alined and therefore don't have much reverence for the guy who fled when he found out about Lorkhan's trick.

>>14212540

The reappearance of the Dragonborn and the slaying of Alduin could be a massive boost to morale for all Nords and even the Empire. Both sides are able to make a brief peace in order to deal with the bigger threat. It's not that big of a stretch to imagine more growing anti-Thalmor sentiment among the Empire. On the face of it, the Dragon threat appears to be bad for everyone, but could turn out to be the uniting force to bring Imperials and Nords back together, whether it be as part of the Empire or something else. The Dragonborn would be seen as a message from Akatosh and/or Talos that legitimises the strength of Man in the face of Thalmor oppression. Much like the original Covenant with Alessia against the Ayleids.

>>14212603

>The Empire has lost, they signed the White Gold Concordant and outlawed the worship of the Ninth Divine, their emperor is assassinated. I just don't see how that's better.

The Empire managed to push the Aldmeri Dominion back. If they hadn't there would be no Empire at all, just occupied Cyrodiil. Both sides are tacitly gearing back up for war, with the advantage in the Dominion's favour, but both sides were heavily weakened by the fighting, which is why the Thalmor are pressing every other advantage they can. The banning of Talos worship was a necessary evil as part of the Concordat, if they hadn't agreed to it the fighting would have continued and left the Dominion in a far better position than they are now, even if it came at a huge cost to take over the Imperial City. Morrowind would be unlikely to intervene unless they were being directly affected or the threat of invasion existed, Hammerfell isn't going to send armies across the Alik'r to take back Cyrodiil and High Rock and Skyrim would have no choice but to prepare for an invasion. Titus Mede II being assassinated could go either way; massive demoralisation throughout the Empire or a complete revitalisation. Someone has to take over, and the Empire is in a state of shambles. Any competent leader would immediately move to consolidate and defend Cyrodiil, and even if they merely withdraw the legions from Skyrim it could pave the way to diplomacy with an independent Skyrim. Complete reunification isn't necessary to convince the Stormcloaks that it's worth putting aside differences to attack the Dominion.

>>14212634

No, the Mede dynasty became Emperors when Titus Mede the 1st conquered the White-Gold tower. If Titus Mede II had any children, cousins, nephews, etc then they would be next in line. Anyways, that's why independent Skyrim is better than integration with the Empire.

>>14212645

>Complete reunification isn't necessary to convince the Stormcloaks that it's worth putting aside differences to attack the Dominion.

I'm pretty sure Ulfric would jump on the chance to fuck over (((high elf))) scum any day. Yeah you're right about the Talos worship being needed to be in a situation where the Dominion are not as strong as they would be, but without the worship of Talos, the first emperor in the Septim Dynasty the man who created the Empire as we know it, then what the fuck is the Empire? It's meaningless, it's like when the HRE took the name Holy Roman Empire. But I agree with most of your points, I don't think the Redguards or Dunmer will join in a brawl against the Thalmor, maybe the Redguards since they were invaded once before by the Thalmor, but definitely not the Dunmer.

>>14212664

Remember that the Dunmer were formed out of the Velothi exodus in response to Aldmer persecution for Daedra worship. And that Boethiah made Trinimac into Malacath when he and his followers tried to stop them. They certainly wouldn't be the first to come to the defence of another province, but they still have plenty of reasons to hate the Dominion.

>>14212603

>Well the dragons are dealt with in canon, so it's not like that matters

No, they aren't. Alduin is, but all the rest are still out and about. Paarthunax takes some to go learn the Way of the Voice, but not nearly all of them.

>>14212739

The Thalmor's goals are in direct opposition to the beliefs of the Dunmer, though. It's difficult to have a life of hardship when there's no mortal life in the first place. The Dunmer are as religiously opposed to the Aldmeri Dominion as they were the Dwemer, and you know how well they and the Dwemer got along.

>>14181170

go into your drivers and set the lod bias to -1 or -2

They textures are just upscaled with a filter, they don't look any better and run like dogshit

>>14181281

This guy is right but it should be Oblivion with porn mods

>>14213656

> lod bias

shit I meant +1 or +2

that should half the texture resolution and save you some vram

>>14215013

Cheat yourself the nightingale armor. Gotta wear all black.

>>14215013

>Bow.

I know for a fact that there is a Katana in this game, go get that.

>>14215031

But my character is speccing into archery only

>>14215013

>no blades anywhere

>uses the weapon of the ranger, one of the least edgy archetypes

No.

>>14215046

>>14215067

Rangers are pretty edgy.

>>14215067

>>14215074

I'm not saying rangers can't be edgy, but being a ranger adds no edge. Being a ranger means being a nature lover, a "one with nature" kind of deal. As much shit as he gets for being edgy, becoming a ranger was an instance of Drizz't becoming less edgy. The edgy bow users are assassins, and they're usually more associated with daggers, anyway.

>>14215093

>failed spoiler

ay caramba

>>14212645

>Snow-Throat was deactivated in Skyrim.

When? Besides, the Cave still hasn't been found or revealed so that makes no sense.

>>14216047

No matter what, the Dragonborn isn't going to be around after the events of Skyrim. It's how it always goes with TES protags. They fulfill their destiny, then they disappear somewhere.

>>14215341

>And you honestly think that succession laws in Skyrim would be better? With all their feuding jarls and a possible High King in the works,

>The most likely scenario for succession after Ulfric will be feuding jarls vying for the throne

The Moot, assuming it happens, will give Ulfric complete legitimacy. The Nords won't challenge it, since it has a traditional root in their culture which goes even further back than Talos.

>what happens after Ulfric is assassinated by a resurgent Dark Brotherhood or the Thalmor?

All things considered, his ethnonationalist policies will cover him more than the Emperor was. The Dark Brotherhood is still in considerable decline and the Emperor's assassination was solely due to the LDB.

>The Empire needs strength returned to its core

No, since the entire thing is fucking corrupt and worthless at this point. The guys at the bottom are just following orders, being completely fine with killing and torturing their own citizens. The guys at the top meanwhile are only thinking of their own short-term profit, as shown by a member of the fucking Elder Council having the Emperor assassinated.

>and the provinces have the best chance at prosperity and military security against the Thalmor as vassals to the Imperial Crown

No. Being a part of the Empire only leaves the at the tender mercies of the Thalmor who have free reign to kidnap, assassinate and torture anyone they want. The Legions will not only allow it, but help cover it up. And it will only lead to the Altmer seeding more and more of their spies in Skyrim; bosmer whose families have been taken hostage; khajiit too dumb to know any better etc.

Skyrim should have been allowed to secede at the onset, giving the Imperial citizens who wished to worship Talos to have a release vent and giving the Empire an ally at their back who cannot be subverted and hollowed from the inside by the Thalmor. The Empire already lacks the means to control and protect all of their provinces, as shown by the civil unrest and sackings mentioned in Cicero's journal.

Of course, Ulfric is kind of shit. But it's better to have a vigorous but slightly incompetent leader than a weary and experienced one.

Stormcloaks it is.

>>14216046

Kirkbride said it was a cave, so unless you're thinking of Alduin's cloaca…

>>14216118

>the gem is a cave

I mean I know shit is stupid in TES but an actual physical entity makes much more sense than a fucking cave, I mean is there something in the cave that is the gem?

You also know Todd might have just retconned that?

>>14216146

Probably referencing this https://www.imperial-library.info/content/shor-son-shor-full

>>14216096

A hurricane can be a big deal today, and you think it isn't a big deal in a medieval world? Dragons are big, intelligent, flying, fire breathing, carnivorous, durable lizards that only permanently die if killed by a dragonborn, which there is only one of, if any at all, once Skyrim ends. They can absolutely wreck any farmland, which is a very important resource for feeding soldiers, and are a pain to take down without a powerful sorcerer, equipment developed specifically to take down dragons (which doesn't exist at the point Skyrim ends, save for Dragonsreach), or Dragon Rend, which only the LDB knows.

>>14216235

I said a non-catastrophic natural disaster, not huge catastrophic natural disasters that hurricanes can be. Seeing as a handful of guards can take down a dragon, yeah I don't think it's a big deal. Most of the dragons are being taught the Way of the Voice to become basically dragon monks, only a handful are still flying around being dicks. It'll only be a matter of time till they die, and with no Alduin to revive them, there's really nothing more too it.

>>14216308

In game, of course it's the case. Canon, probably not, all nords who beat dragons had the Thu'um and those who didn't have the Thu'um but also hunted dragons were specialized in doing so, aka, the Akaviri. The reason I don't mention the Blades, even though they would play some sort of a factor in helping slaying the Dragons, is because Delphine is a fucking cunt who lied to my fucking face multiple times.

>>14216289

>Most of the dragons are being taught the Way of the Voice

You're greatly overestimating how many are following Paarthunax. Ohdavig says himself that most dragons aren't going to trade one tyranny for another. There's a reason you still encounter dragons at the same rate after beating the main quest, and that's because most of them are just out and fucking around.

>>14216367

Or Todd was too lazy to make story progression matter in the world.

And its said they follow the strongest voice, not just some monk.

>>14216367

>There's a reason you still encounter dragons at the same rate after beating the main quest,

Lazy coding? Game mechanics like unlocking shouts being nearly impossible to complete if there was less dragons flying around? I mean those are two of the biggest reasons I can think of that make more sense than what you're proposing.

>>14211052

They serve the purpose they need to but yea the animations aren't great. Doesn't mean there's any porn game like it.

>>14216391

>>14216438

>ignoring the statements of a dragon saying most other dragons won't follow Paarthunax

>ignoring that Bethesda writes the story around gameplay limitations (see previous discussion on Dagoth Ur's willingness to let the Nerevarine join him)

Bethesda wrote the ending to justify why you can keep killing dragons and, thus, learn any words you haven't yet. They probably also plan on including dragons in the next game, because the casuals like them and Bethesda doesn't like creativity. Also, Paarthunax is potentially dead, anyway. Bethesda generally keeps vague on what choices the player character makes, so the big guy will probably have "mysteriously disappeared" by the next game.

>>14217546

*or collect tribute from surrounding settlements, like how the farmers give cows to giants. It's possible one or two might even respect Ulfric's Voice enough to serve him like Nafaalilargus with Tiber. Although that's pretty unlikely given the difference in power between the two, and that Nafaalilargus was one of the last of his kind at the time.

>>14217546

Dragons will easily fall to their hubris when it comes to your

>would dare attack town because they can die now

comment.

>>14217573

I didn't say none of them would ever attack, I said they'd be apprehensive. It would only take two or three of them being put down to make the rest think twice before randomly attacking, and by the time Alduin is dead most Nords are going to be scrambling to learn as much of the Voice as they can. There would certainly be more danger and destruction from rogue dragons for a while, but it's not going to be a permanent state of affairs, and it's unlikely they'd go back to all out war. Dragons aren't monolithic, and even with their hubris they aren't stupid.

>>14219960

>skyrim meme

>blacked meme

>>>/cuckchan/

>>14211082

>crap

yeah, found the redditor.

nigger